Chris Algieri Is Charismatic And Tough… But Is He A PPV Fighter?

I get the notion that he is supremely confident and fearless. I don’t think he’s one of those fighters who are consumed with “what if I lose” like many other fighters are. My impression of him is that losing doesn’t lessen or define how he sees himself as a man. I’m speaking of Manny Pacquiao challenger Chris Algieri 20-0 (8) and that was the content of an e-mail I exchanged with a great friend whose boxing acumen I have as much regard for as anyone I’ve ever met in my life. And the scary thing about that is, he replied, “Frank, we see this one differently.”

However, I can’t shake the vibe that I get signifying he is authentically tough when I observe this Algieri. Those are my feelings and thoughts without ever having met or spoken to him. There’s just a quiet confidence about him that reminds me of other baby faced tough guys I’ve encountered over the years. I could be off on this one, but based on how he weathered the hurricane in the first round he was met with when he fought Ruslan Provodnikov in his last fight, I’m betting that if I’ve misjudged him, it’s not by much.

Algieri was captain of his high school wrestling team, as was my best friend in high school. Having befriended and worked out with a few wrestlers/grapplers, I know they’re pretty tough guys. He also has a black belt in Kempo karate, which is a striking art, and he was a professional kick boxer. I wouldn’t be fooled by his boy next door looks and demeanor, Algieri loves combat sports and training. I seriously doubt that he’s in awe of Manny Pacquiao. Respectful of him, absolutely, but he won’t come apart when he’s clocked in the mouth by him for the first time when they face each other on November 22. If there was any dog in Algieri, it would’ve surfaced during the first round against Provodnikov when he was hurt, beat up and knocked down. He weathered that storm and came back to out-box and out fight Provodnikov to win the bout by a point on my card. This is a fighter who has not been spoon fed or coddled like so many other guys who were pumped up because they were a good story and supposedly could fight.

“It’s genetic, I’m tall for the weight class,” Algieri said. “I’m not built to go in there and stand in front of a man and trade bombs. Why would I do that when I’ve got length, I’ve got range, I’ve got speed and I’ve got foot work and defense?”

The above indicates that Chris is a cerebral fighter and no doubt knows what he wants to do and understands his limitations. I like that about him. However, I also must be intellectually honest, and it must be pointed out, aside from some Mike Tyson opponents (Peter McNeeley and Kevin McBride), has there ever been any main event fighter on a PPV card since 1988 that has fewer qualifications than Algieri?

But you know what? I can’t say I have a problem with that for the following reason. If it wasn’t Algieri, it would’ve been someone else to play the warm body for Pacquiao in China. And the reason for that is, Pacquiao needs an opponent with a back story, which Chris definitely has. I also believe Bob Arum feels that he has to be careful regarding who he puts Pacquiao in with. And the perfect opponent is one that lacks experience and big power, but one who can capture the imagination of new boxing fans and not get blown out in a round or two. The fight is not a fraud by today’s standards because Algieri legitimately beat Provodnikov to win the WBO junior welterweight title.

PPV fights have become so common since the emergence of Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao circa 2007-2008 that it’s almost ridiculous. Depending on how you break it down, starting with Mike Tyson’s first round knockout of Michael Spinks back in June of 1988, through Lewis-Holyfield II in November of 1999, there were 25 PPV cards. Starting with Lennox Lewis’s second round knockout over Michael Grant in April of 2000, there have been 45 PPV bouts concluding with Saul Alvarez’s split decision over Erislandy Lara this past summer. Let’s forget about the 1980 and 1990s, and take into account 2000-2014. That’s 45 PPV cards and 90 fighters who fought the main event. And of those 90 fighters, only Kevin McBride who fought Mike Tyson in his last fight was less accomplished than Algieri, and you have to go back to 1995 and inject Tyson opponent Peter McNeeley to find another less credentialed fighter than Chris who was part of the main event of a PPV card.

I know that’s harsh, but I think Chris is honest enough that he would probably agree if he matched his record with the fighters who made up the PPV cards stated above. I respect his work and what he has accomplished as a boxer and title holder, but in an earlier era, I don’t think Pacquiao-Algieri would go over as a PPV attraction. But it does today because Mayweather and Pacquiao have conditioned the public to accept every time they fight it’s assumed it’s PPV and that signifies their opponent is worthy. And even that’s starting to wane, as evidenced by Arum hurrying Pacquiao off to China with the hope of cultivating an Asian following.

Let me state it once more, I’m not ripping Algieri, just stating the way it is. And by this time next year, there will probably be a fighter representing the “B” side of a PPV card that makes Chris Algieri’s resume look like Roberto Duran’s. And most likely he’ll be an opponent of Mayweather or Pacquiao. That’s the way boxing is trending. One of these days fans will wake up and realize that Pacquiao and Mayweather are really getting over on them having to pay extra to see them every time they fight regardless of who the fighter is in the other corner.

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COMMENTS

-Radam G :

WOW! Imma stay away from this piece of archmaster boxing journalist F-Lo. C-Al doesn't get it. He is a nightmare for promotion. He comes off the wrong way. And appears to not only to be arrogrance with no substance, but snotty and believing that he is the best thing and pug since beets, balut, buckwheat and beans. Dude has downgraded Da Manny, Tim Bradley, Juan Maneul Marquez and Floyd Mayweather. And said that he is hot a big fan of any of them. The more that he opens his trap, the more that boxing people are beginning to want him to be a rap. One just cannot come off insulting and dissing boxing royalty, as C-Al has done. Holla at his soundbites. I've put one or two already. Holla!


-Skibbz :

But it does today because Mayweather and Pacquiao have conditioned the public to accept every time they fight it's assumed it's PPV and that signifies their opponent is worthy.
To some extent, but also people are better off compared to those times. Then again the turn off has been the constant slew of PPV's. Now to follow the best boxers you must fork out several hundred dollars a year. That's ridiculous for sitting at home and tuning in, it's worth the currency if you're on a seat in the stadium or arena but sitting on your rear in your own home and paying hundreds of dollars a year for these stars can take it's toll on people's wallets and wane the love of the sport of some fans. Algieri in my opinion isn't what people want to fork out to see. His fights aren't exciting, and his smugness is a turn off. In our gyms we were always taught to stay humble, to let our hands to the talking for us and to give whatever crowd is watching something worth their time.. In the case of PPV boxing, you have a duty in my opinion to not only give the viewers something that's worth their time but also worth their money.


-deepwater2 :

He was not a PPV fighter before this one, he is a PPV fight for this one and depending how he does in a few days will determine if he gets on PPV again. I hate the Rocky comparison. The only thing comparable is the underdog status they both shared. Rocky had a studio apartment in the rough side of town. Chris lives in the basement of his parents' million dollar house. Rocky had no formal education. Chris has a doctorate. Rocky had to collect debts for the bookie to make ends meet.Chris is an upscale nutritionist/trainer. Rocky was humble and thanked the champ for the shot. Chris is very arrogant and overconfident. Rocky has Mickey for a trainer.Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts This fight might have Khan vs Salita written all over it.


-Kid Blast :

[SIZE=6]No, absolutely not.


-Kid Blast :

He was not a PPV fighter before this one, he is a PPV fight for this one and depending how he does in a few days will determine if he gets on PPV again. I hate the Rocky comparison. The only thing comparable is the underdog status they both shared. Rocky had a studio apartment in the rough side of town. Chris lives in the basement of his parents' million dollar house. Rocky had no formal education. Chris has a doctorate. Rocky had to collect debts for the bookie to make ends meet.Chris is an upscale nutritionist/trainer. Rocky was humble and thanked the champ for the shot. Chris is very arrogant and overconfident. Rocky has Mickey for a trainer.Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts This fight might have Khan vs Salita written all over it.

Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


-Skibbz :

He was not a PPV fighter before this one, he is a PPV fight for this one and depending how he does in a few days will determine if he gets on PPV again. I hate the Rocky comparison. The only thing comparable is the underdog status they both shared. Rocky had a studio apartment in the rough side of town. Chris lives in the basement of his parents' million dollar house. Rocky had no formal education. Chris has a doctorate. Rocky had to collect debts for the bookie to make ends meet.Chris is an upscale nutritionist/trainer. Rocky was humble and thanked the champ for the shot. Chris is very arrogant and overconfident. Rocky has Mickey for a trainer.Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts This fight might have Khan vs Salita written all over it.
I burst into laughter when I read Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts. That's too much hahahaha. I couldn't agree more with everything you said.


-Radam G :

I burst into laughter when I read Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts. That's too much hahahaha. I couldn't agree more with everything you said.
Tim Lane is also rubbing magic engery oils and lotions on his charge. Team C'Al is wack. They just went running with green-glowing stones. They need my buckwheat mountain applesauce.Hehehe! It will bring them back to earth. Holla!


-The Shadow :


He was not a PPV fighter before this one, he is a PPV fight for this one and depending how he does in a few days will determine if he gets on PPV again. I hate the Rocky comparison. The only thing comparable is the underdog status they both shared. Rocky had a studio apartment in the rough side of town. Chris lives in the basement of his parents' million dollar house. Rocky had no formal education. Chris has a doctorate. Rocky had to collect debts for the bookie to make ends meet.Chris is an upscale nutritionist/trainer. Rocky was humble and thanked the champ for the shot. Chris is very arrogant and overconfident. Rocky has Mickey for a trainer.Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts This fight might have Khan vs Salita written all over it.
One of your best posts, bro. Even better than your "Andre Ward is no thief..." post. You nailed it with the bold part and superbly phrased to boot. That answers the question right there. Great stuff.


-SouthPaul :

That is a good post. I only disagree with the very arrogant part. I see plenty of confidence but his arrogance isn't too over the top, IMHO. Truthfully, he's kinda a sight for somewhat sore boxing eyes. Far too many tragic tales and he seems to be above all that. Respect to the man who's got his act together.


-The Commish :

He was not a PPV fighter before this one, he is a PPV fight for this one and depending how he does in a few days will determine if he gets on PPV again. I hate the Rocky comparison. The only thing comparable is the underdog status they both shared. Rocky had a studio apartment in the rough side of town. Chris lives in the basement of his parents' million dollar house. Rocky had no formal education. Chris has a doctorate. Rocky had to collect debts for the bookie to make ends meet.Chris is an upscale nutritionist/trainer. Rocky was humble and thanked the champ for the shot. Chris is very arrogant and overconfident. Rocky has Mickey for a trainer.Chris has coach lane in Muay Thai shorts This fight might have Khan vs Salita written all over it.
I agree with all of what you wrote except for Chris Algieri being overconfident. That, he not. It's just that what many of you perceive as arrogance is coming across as overconfidence. Let him beat Da Manny and you'll see what a PPV draw he can be. A Pacquiao loss will not destroy the legendary Filipino, but an ASlgieri win will certainly be good for boxing. Get ready for what's good for boxing. -Randy G.


-mortcola :

I used to give inkblot tests and related ?projective? tests for a living. Basically, show the subject/patient something that has no specific meaning or identity, or one that is hidden from them, and they will ?project? their own mental structures, hang-ups, conditioned ways of seeing the world on it. Incredibly powerful tests. Can?t be faked- because the faked answers are as revealing as the honest ones. No one agrees on who C-Al was, that guy they saw in the ring. And as for using his answers about handsomeness to prove his conceit or arrogance, he was spoon fed a question and answered it with an ironic chuckle. I know Chris a little from two gyms. He?s just not an arrogant guy. He?s self-contained, helpful, speaks the same way to the janitor as to his sparring partners and their Moms. Respectfully. He knows he lucked into the Provodnikov fight but proved both great discipline, heart, and tremendously improved boxing skill in fighting at a world class level with one eye with the whole world watching. And as for being overconfident, he knows who Pac is. He also knows that, and this is just true about him, there is nothing short of unconsciousness that can make him deviate from a fight plan. It doesn?t matter that its Pac in front of him. It is how he lives his life. Now, I never bet against Pac. I have money on both of them this time, because I know things about Chris? adaptive ability and focus that none of you except Commish have any way of knowing personally. He is a unique kind of fighter. And whether he wins or loses on Saturday, he is going to be true to himself and his strategy, and if he loses, he will be at ease with the fact that the better man won, not because he screwed up. All the rest of the opinions are speculation - projection. You don?t know him, you just know generalizations about fighters. Some are different. However, good he turns out to be, what I wrote above about the man is accurate. As for the PPV question, the story, which is made essential by the presence of Manny and the unusual circumstances under which Chris got the gig, belongs on PPV. Chris? record by itself doesn?t. But he may after Saturday. As for me, I?ll be both happy and unhappy with any outcome.


-SouthPaul :

Mortcola Excellent write up. Thanks for that personal interaction detail. Good stuff, my friend. Ok, now just before I read this I went over to another site to read up on other boxing news. I tell you, am sort of shocked at what I just saw. Final press conference pics. I tell you, I honestly didn't realize CA was that much bigger than Manny. Trip me out! My fight pick is now in a tailspin.


-deepwater2 :

Chris seems like a nice enough guy,but some of his statements have come off a little arrogant compared to Rocky thanking the champ for the shot. Newsday: MACAU - Now, that Chris Algieri has plunged into the deep end of international media scrutiny in the lead-up to his fight with WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao on Saturday night, his confident pronouncements are attracting far more attention and, in some cases, generating strong push back. Former WBO 147-pound champion Timothy Bradley reacted incredulously to a video clip in which Algieri stated that Bradley "is not necessarily known as a fast guy. I am." "He's faster than me? Really? Are you serious? Algieri's faster than me? Are you serious? C'mon, man. You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me, man." Speaking directly to the camera, Bradley adds, "You're taller, but not faster." Yahoo: American fighter Chris Algieri wasn’t pleased to hear boxing superstar Manny Pacquiao played professional hoops with just a month to go before their WBO welterweight title clash. "I don't know if it's arrogance or just silly and stupid," the undefeated Algieri said in Yahoo! Sports. Another quote : ...Tell you the truth, I was not the biggest Manny Pacquiao fan when he was actually fighting. I watched his fights, but I wasn't buying the pay-per-view. If I bought the pay-per-view, I bought for De La Hoya," stated undefeated jr. welterweight champ, Algieri. Coach Lane: But Lane is upbeat on Algieri’s chances of stopping Pacquiao, saying their fight in Macau next month won’t even go to the scorecards. “Chris gets warm mid fight and picks up the pace. Chris Algieri will beat Manny Pacquiao November 22nd. He most certainly has a chance of stopping Pacquiao. I don’t expect it to go the distance,” Lane said.


-amayseng :

I think Chris is just trying to carry the promotion. An arrogant person does not live in their parents basement, they just wouldn't do it. I think he is just trying to overcompensate his nerves with confidence and it comes off wrong for the most part. Who is gonna wanna throw down 70 bucks when one fighter looks already beaten months before the fight?


-Radam G :

I think Chris is just trying to carry the promotion. An arrogant person does not live in their parents basement, they just wouldn't do it. I think he is just trying to overcompensate his nerves with confidence and it comes off wrong for the most part. Who is gonna wanna throw down 70 bucks when one fighter looks already beaten months before the fight?
You will be surprised. Hehehe! I know tons of dudes and dudettes who are arrogant as syet, and reside in their parents' basements, garages, etc., etc. But, of course, those residing pads are two or three times bigger than most average income people's whole darn houses. However, don't forget that C-Al's brother's family of five also reside there. And that the house of Algieri is not a typical middle-income family house. As the promotion says, C-Al is a boxer who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth -- I mean that he came from a whole different zip code . Haha! Holla!


-Radam G :

C-Al is perpetrating a fraud. Neither he nor I came from what Da Manny had to go through.
->http://www.sports.yahoo.com/video/manny-pacquiao-thankful-sleeping-treet-110000934.hmtl. I've been truthful about my background. C-Al is full rich-boy bullsyet. And he's playing the working Joes and Janes. Holla!


-Skibbz :

I think Chris is just trying to carry the promotion. An arrogant person does not live in their parents basement, they just wouldn't do it. I think he is just trying to overcompensate his nerves with confidence and it comes off wrong for the most part. Who is gonna wanna throw down 70 bucks when one fighter looks already beaten months before the fight?
Yeah I think too there's that aspect of it, but I also believe he genuinely believes in his own hype. As one of my friends said he's got a large ego that needs to be fed and caressed..


-The Shadow :

I used to give inkblot tests and related “projective” tests for a living. Basically, show the subject/patient something that has no specific meaning or identity, or one that is hidden from them, and they will “project” their own mental structures, hang-ups, conditioned ways of seeing the world on it. Incredibly powerful tests. Can’t be faked- because the faked answers are as revealing as the honest ones. No one agrees on who C-Al was, that guy they saw in the ring. And as for using his answers about handsomeness to prove his conceit or arrogance, he was spoon fed a question and answered it with an ironic chuckle. I know Chris a little from two gyms. He’s just not an arrogant guy. He’s self-contained, helpful, speaks the same way to the janitor as to his sparring partners and their Moms. Respectfully. He knows he lucked into the Provodnikov fight but proved both great discipline, heart, and tremendously improved boxing skill in fighting at a world class level with one eye with the whole world watching. And as for being overconfident, he knows who Pac is. He also knows that, and this is just true about him, there is nothing short of unconsciousness that can make him deviate from a fight plan. It doesn’t matter that its Pac in front of him. It is how he lives his life. Now, I never bet against Pac. I have money on both of them this time, because I know things about Chris’ adaptive ability and focus that none of you except Commish have any way of knowing personally. He is a unique kind of fighter. And whether he wins or loses on Saturday, he is going to be true to himself and his strategy, and if he loses, he will be at ease with the fact that the better man won, not because he screwed up. All the rest of the opinions are speculation - projection. You don’t know him, you just know generalizations about fighters. Some are different. However, good he turns out to be, what I wrote above about the man is accurate. As for the PPV question, the story, which is made essential by the presence of Manny and the unusual circumstances under which Chris got the gig, belongs on PPV. Chris’ record by itself doesn’t. But he may after Saturday. As for me, I’ll be both happy and unhappy with any outcome.
Supreme stuff, mortcola. I can totally see that in him, too. I believe what you say. Hey, would you mind sending me examples of those tests?


-Radam G :

Wow! C-Al is chameleon with his many personality traits. He doesn't move those in da know. We know. Dude has dropped from his manic high to all-time manic low. In dat squared jungle, he's going to be so d@mn slow. No energy stones, oils, lotions or the "energy words" of his trainers Tim Lane or Keith Trimble are going to help him flow. Dude is already getting the Eyes of The Deer. That is why he is now wearing super dark glasses around the clock. From this Chinese's M-Island, dude is seeing ship lights coming and he's stuck staring on the dock. Da Manny has this fight on lock. The tall deer -- I mean C-Al -- has gone into total shock. We are a day and a wake up away. OMG! What you say! Hehe!:cool: Holla!


-Skibbz :

I've just seen a video of Pacquiao from this week.. He looks mighty fast and accurate. It still shocks me how incredibly fast he is.. A truly unique fighter that, Chris is going to learn the meaning of a Great Of All Time when he crosses Manny.


-Domenic :

Mortcola's the EF Hutton of this place. The man talks, you listen. I think Algieri will acquit himself well Saturday. I don't think he'll win, but I don't think he's just gonna get bombed out either. Equivocating big time here. Pac by UD. Algieri's certainly not a PPV guy now; but he'll have a huge stage Saturday to change that, so we'll know the answer to that in 2 days.


-Skibbz :

I just can't see him being a PPV star, who will he have on side and what will he be able to produce that will have the fans forking out? There are so many more exciting talents in his division in my opinion for Chris to get a look in.


-Radam G :

Mortcola's the EF Hutton of this place. The man talks, you listen. I think Algieri will acquit himself well Saturday. I don't think he'll win, but I don't think he's just gonna get bombed out either. Equivocating big time here. Pac by UD. Algieri's certainly not a PPV guy now; but he'll have a huge stage Saturday to change that, so we'll know the answer to that in 2 days.
C-Al is getting blasted out in two rounds. Holla!


-Froggy :

C-Al is getting blasted out in two rounds. Holla!
Holy cow RG, I thought you first said 5 then 4, now 2, you must have learned something since arriving in Macau ?


-Radam G :

I think Chris is just trying to carry the promotion. An arrogant person does not live in their parents basement, they just wouldn't do it. I think he is just trying to overcompensate his nerves with confidence and it comes off wrong for the most part. Who is gonna wanna throw down 70 bucks when one fighter looks already beaten months before the fight?
Like I've told you guys, optical illusions are everywhere up in da game. Confirm, verify, verify again and verify what you have verified again and again. A-Seng, you said that "an arrogant person" does not live in his "parents' basement." 'What if that 1,100-square-foot basement of a three-story mansion has been turned into a bachelor's pad with a kitchen, bedroom, sitting room/study room, dining room, a bathroom with a shower and a jacuzzi. Great video-editing by HBO to hide the reality of the actuality. http:
->www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQftwJySVUM But you still notice how big the Algieri's family compound is. Man, please! Doc M-cola ought to holla at those inkblot tests to see how schizophrenia C-Al might be, if C-Al had n ot learned to jive. OMFG! Dude is a jive turkey. He ought eat him some water buffalo jerky. It has a different type of salt in it that will help chemical imbalances. I would not trust C-Al as far as I can see him. He, Tim Lane and Keith Trimble are oddballs believing in their destiny and energy-stones-rocks-oils-and-lotion double fudge jive. They would lie to Jesus Christ. And I bet that they can beat a polygraph. Holla!


-Radam G :

Holy cow RG, I thought you first said 5 then 4, now 2, you must have learned something since arriving in Macau ?
YES! I've seem that the Pac-spies in the Empire State and Sin City were generous about how uncordinated, stiffest moving C-Al is. He moves and boxes and even walks robotic. In the boxing game, we say, "He moves like he has a two-by-four up in his @$$." The Long Island C-Al is long in size, but in fluidity and loosy-goosy, he's looking kind of spastic -- no hate or insult. Holla!


-brownsugar :

All fighters have something to say before a fight. I don't read a whole into it because its mainly to.hype the fight and/or send a message of confidence to their opponent. Trash talk shouldn't be considered as the Gospel. Is Algieri a PPV fighter? Obviously his is now courtesy Manny Paquioa. But barely squeaking by Ruslan Provodnikov in a fight that could have gone the other way didn't exactly make Chris a fighter that I particularly wanted to see again.....even for free. But that's just me.... I can appreciate the local support for Algieri in addition to the allure that an over-acheiving novice can have on the imaginations of boxing fans. I give him slightly more of a chance to win than Brandon Rios.... But after he loses ......due to the media overload and speculation, Algieri's name and inspiring storyline will be imprinted in our minds for at least a decade. How Algieri capitolizes on virtually becoming a household name overnight is for him to contemplate.


-Radam G :

All fighters have something to say before a fight. I don't read a whole into it because its mainly to.hype the fight and/or send a message of confidence to their opponent. Trash talk shouldn't be considered as the Gospel. Is Algieri a PPV fighter? Obviously his is now courtesy Manny Paquioa.... I give him slightly more of a chance to win than Brandon Rios.... But after he loses ......due to the media overload and speculation, Algieri's name and inspiring storyline will be imprinted in our minds for at least a decade. How Algieri capitolizes on virtually becoming a household name overnight is for him to contemplate.
Hehehe! You are too NICE! C-Al is a new millennium Peter McNeeley. C-Al is going to be long forgotten "in our minds" forever unless something freaky freaky happens like him getting knocked through the ropes and falling on a ring girl or something. Haha! Holla!


-amayseng :

Like I've told you guys, optical illusions are everywhere up in da game. Confirm, verify, verify again and verify what you have verified again and again. A-Seng, you said that "an arrogant person" does not live in his "parents' basement." 'What if that 1,100-square-foot basement of a three-story mansion has been turned into a bachelor's pad with a kitchen, bedroom, sitting room/study room, dining room, a bathroom with a shower and a jacuzzi. Great video-editing by HBO to hide the reality of the actuality. http:
->www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQftwJySVUM But you still notice how big the Algieri's family compound is. Man, please! Doc M-cola ought to holla at those inkblot tests to see how schizophrenia C-Al might be, if C-Al had n ot learned to jive. OMFG! Dude is a jive turkey. He ought eat him some water buffalo jerky. It has a different type of salt in it that will help chemical imbalances. I would not trust C-Al as far as I can see him. He, Tim Lane and Keith Trimble are oddballs believing in their destiny and energy-stones-rocks-oils-and-lotion double fudge jive. They would lie to Jesus Christ. And I bet that they can beat a polygraph. Holla!
Yes I see your point. One thing for sure, Chris pushes through his point of impact he does not snap through it. No power.


-deepwater2 :

Yes I see your point. One thing for sure, Chris pushes through his point of impact he does not snap through it. No power.
Well Coach Lane says Chris is gonna knock out Manny and retire him because the universe is on CA's side. 8 ko's , and he is gonna knock out Pac? That is BOLD. And on the other hand I keep hearing master boxer-master boxer from the camp. A master boxer is in the 41 and older division in amatuer boxing. 3- 90 second rounds. Any way I hope a fight breaks out and we are all entertained.


-Froggy :

Well Coach Lane says Chris is gonna knock out Manny and retire him because the universe is on CA's side. 8 ko's , and he is gonna knock out Pac? That is BOLD. And on the other hand I keep hearing master boxer-master boxer from the camp. A master boxer is in the 41 and older division in amatuer boxing. 3- 90 second rounds. Any way I hope a fight breaks out and we are all entertained.
I think everybody except Team Algerie would like to see a fight break out !


-The Shadow :

Gotta love it. Tim Lane is good for boxing.


-stormcentre :

And the reason for that is, Pacquiao needs an opponent with a back story, which Chris definitely has. I also believe Bob Arum feels that he has to be careful regarding who he puts Pacquiao in with. And the perfect opponent is one that lacks experience and big power, but one who can capture the imagination of new boxing fans and not get blown out in a round or two. ============= I respect his work and what he has accomplished as a boxer and title holder, but in an earlier era, I don't think Pacquiao-Algieri would go over as a PPV attraction. But it does today because Mayweather and Pacquiao have conditioned the public to accept every time they fight it's assumed it's PPV and that signifies their opponent is worthy.
I would add that Pacquiao-Algieri does pass as a PPV attraction today because Top Rank, as a business and commercial animal, know what they're doing. Top Rank have always sought to capture and control the market/talent, and they're successful doing it. My personal take on Algieri's involvement in this fight is that there was no one else within Top Rank's stable that was available, had the marketability and was not perceived as a genuinely serious threat despite the upset of Ruslan. Still, the outcome of this fight will be as interesting for the boxing landscape as it will be for that of this forum and perhaps the New York boxing scene.