Gennady Golovkin’s promoter Tom Leoffler of K2 has expended a good deal of energy the last couple years telling people that Golovkin is the real damn deal.
I asked him how he was doing on a phoner Monday afternoon, and he chuckled, and replied: “A lot better now that I don’t have to convince people that he can really fight.”
Yes, indeed, the buzz-meter ticked high on social media after Golovkin went liver hunting on Matthew Macklin, and stopped the Anglo-Irish challenger in round three, much earlier than Sergio Martinez did (round 11) when those men clashed last year.
But this is the age of opinion, where opinion can pass as facts if repeated hard enough and enough times. There will be holdouts, and maybe rightly so, that caution us not to anoint Golovkin as a future all-time great just yet. They will not be shy about labeling Golovkin a still-unproven product. I asked Loeffler (pictured, far left, with Golovkin and trainer Abel Sanchez) what Golovkin would need to do to convince holdouts that he’s the realest of deals.
“How people react and what they believe, that’s something I can’t change,” he told me. “Our plan continues to be the same. At some point everyone will be convinced he is the best middleweight in the world.”
Loeffler understands that until he’s beaten, Sergio Martinez deserves the respect of that title, so as of now, beating Martinez would be the best method to remove all doubters from the conversation. (Although, I can picture folks painting Martinez as too-far-past-his prime if and when Golovkin fights him, and beats him, so it’s possible Golovkin woon’t convince the world of his worth until he beats Andre Ward).
Loffler said he’s first focused on more immediate future plans for his wrecking ball from Kazhkstan. Golovkin, who is signed exclusively to HBO, has an HBO date in November. He could fight in an international fight before then, Loeffler said, if the right opportunity is found. And a Martinez fight, that would depend on when Martinez gets back in the ring; he’s rehabbing some injuries from his last fight, against Martin Murray on April 27, and likely won’t be back until March. “Early summer or fall” of next year, is a possibility, Loeffler said.
I admit, I did let my mind wander Saturday, and ponder a Golovkin fight against Ward, at super middleweight. Loeffler brought me back to earth, and said Golovkin has much work yet to do at 160. It feels like to me the winner of the August 17 Daniel Geale-Darren Barker fight is in the lead to get a crack at Golovkin in that November slot. But looking further down speculation road, I asked Loeffler, do you think Ward blunts Golovkin’s power, defuses him? “Absolutely, Gennady would carry his power to 168,” Loeffler said. He said he thinks Ward, who Loeffler termed “a great fighter and great person outside the ring,” would be receptive to a fight with Golovkin.
Another name that naturally pops up is charismatic power-puncher Peter “Kid Chocolate” Quillin; he holds the WBO middleweight belt. An impediment to a Golovkin-Quillin fight could be the divide between HBO and Golden Boy. Who would televise that fight, since Quillin, advised by Al Haymon and promoted by Golden Boy, isn’t welcome on an HBO card? Loeffler, wisely, counsels that many things can change over time. “If both of them continue to win that creates a lot of interest, and issues can be fixed between the networks, if the fight is big enough,” Loeffler said. “We have a good relationship with Golden Boy and Showtime.” The dynamic which has people taking sides, he said, could shift, or the demand on the part of fans could force a truce, basically.
COMMENTS
-brownsugar :
GGG will probably surpass Hopkins... Hagler..May weather and Klitschko in title fight victories.
-brownsugar :
Ward shouldn't let the fight "marinate" too long as injury prone as he is... no more than 2 fights apiece. I'm placing my bets onGGG.
-deepwater :
The natural fight is against quillen . Same weight different belts. Forget hbo vs showtime being the problem . The problem is the shadow Haymon won't offer up quillen. Quillen is busy calling out little 154 lb ishe smith. The shadow will match him against cancer free Danny jacobs who was / is never the same after pirog whooped him. The French guy Ndam had quillen looking horrible and almost won the fight even with the 6 knockdowns quillen scored against him. The natural schedule , what the fans want is this . Ggg vs quillen , then Martinez in 2014 ( Martinez doesn't need a tune up because he will just get injured again, jr busted him up and Murray beat him. )after ggg retires Sergio and puts a dent in sweet Lou's wallet then he is undisputed main man at 160. He will hold all cards. At that time ward will have beaten Chavez jr and at that point a super super fight between ward and ggg at 168 . Option b is after mayweather beats gingerbread man in a boring way then ggg can drop to 154 and fight Floyd in a super fight .( mayweather will never ever fight ggg so it's wishful thinking.) froch has Keesler and Stevenson lined up and maybe Hopkins so he doesn't want ggg. Ggg vs quillen, Murray, Martinez , then ward looks to be what the fans want. If canelo makes it close and loses watch ggg go to 154 and knock out gingerbread man in a way mayweather never could. Ggg reminds me of a bigger better kostya tszyu
-brownsugar :
-Radam G :
Wow! Don't get carry away, B-sug. No prizefighter is cowarding. They would just take a chance for the money. Now pridefighters -- being used and protected by the Shadow, GBP and Showtime ain't gonna fight syet. Fighters like Sergio Mora and that Tex-Mex that beat da him twice are already calling out 3-g. But HBO ain't ever happening it. Boxing is business, not honest matching. It has been that way since the original mafia ran things. And before the mafia, bigots against every ethnic group. Now you have the cable networks. Before 'em, it the free TV networks. It will not be courage that will get a bout with 3-g, but well connected with the powers of HBO. Holla!
-brownsugar :
A valid point RG.
-Raiders :
-deepwater :
Um , the raiders are a crap team. I don't respect you or your opinion so I won't bother debating a lamp post. Go argue with some else you silly clown.
-Carmine Cas :
If GGG can't get anyone else in the ring soon, he should fight Curtis Stevenson. Stevenson called him out after he beat Al Finley on the Fury-Cunningham undercard. That would be a good fight
-brownsugar :
-Carmine Cas :
-deepwater :
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-Raiders :
-deepwater :
-Radam G :
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-Raiders :
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-deepwater :
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-Carmine Cas :
-Radam G :
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-Carmine Cas :
-Radam G :
Wow! Somebody's feeling is hurt and busted perpetrating a triple fraud. I have a glass fence at one my homes in La Costa, Cali. But I while I'm in the P-Islands, no worry! The hater cannot afford to worm his way Five blocks, less alone to Cali. Hehehe! Sticks and stones may break my bones, but I don't ever have to listen to a humbug's sad songs. Life is marvelous! And there is no need to cyberspace beef. So to exposing dat _____, I drop a funeral reef. Hehehe! Holla!
-Carmine Cas :
-Radam G :
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-Carmine Cas :
Hey man all that seems more real than your boxing career
-brownbomber :
-the Roast :
Radam's nickname in the ring was "Fists Rapido", I have researched this.
-Radam G :
It takes fools and phonies to know not fooliness and phonies. And in their fooliness and phoniness they stick together while the whole world laugh. "Tar Baby" is not about an African American. But if you are a lowly-educated controlling idiot you will believe that. Being at the bottom of everything because of laziness, comfort zone and fright, will keep you stupid and screaming nonsense. Go on with your bad self. A larger audience can see how dumb, phony and full of idiots and make-believe that you are. It shows clearly stupidity when you believe that boxing slanguage and various boxing dictions belong to "Ebonics." The boxing slanguages and dictions came from the Irish, the Italians, the Jew, the Poles, the Mexicans, the Scottish and the German. Trust me! No hate is coming my way. Because the scholars of boxing know where the slanguage and dictions came from. And they know "tar baby" is no knock on a single back soul. Black ex-boxers, such as Music Mogul Barry Gordy, the late Godfather of Soul James Brown, Joseph Jackson, pops of the famed Jacksons and the late Marvin Gaye, to name a few, brought popular boxing slang into the down-trotten intercity. And a score and a generation later, you agitators with problems in real life that you can't control, come to cyberspace claiming that an Asian is stealing your Ebonics for the white man, so you are happy when the Filipino is "called out" by the top phonies who are fudged up. The truth has nothing to do with Da Manny. And everybodee and dey momma in cyberspace can see that a spade is a spade. Nutcases should holla at a academic dictionary, and learn that "tar baby" is not a knock on an African American. And haters ain't syet with misbeliefs and agitation. Keep calling me out, and you will keep learning. In cyberspace and televuision will still be the only means to the Big Fights that you have. Haha! It is a shame to be fudging dumb and know it, and cannot give up bullying and racist behaviors. Holla!
-Shoulder Roll Defense :
-Radam G :
YUP! I know who you are B-Sug! You keep it calm and quit egging on your groupies. Who are you AND what when you were stationed in the Philippines? Don't mock and clown me. I've never been a criminal on international legal hold. Get a dictionary as Malcom X told you dudes long ago, AND LEARN MY BROTHER! "Tar baby" has nothing to do with a black American's skin color. Your are a "Baby Boomer! And know better, as my hoodologist Joesph Jones tells me. Dude is from Cleveland, Ohio, and he knew you in the Navy on Legal Hold at Subic Bay. He was a master at arms, and have ID'd you from your TSS photos. It is a tiny-@ss world, my man! I've never knocked you, so don't start your nastiness on me, as you have done to others, including Stormcentre before your vacation. Be a MAN! Soldier/sailor up. You come at me but you don't at your same groupie he-bytches who holla dat sick war propaganda syet about "Asians" eating a "consumption of dogs and cats." You know better, B-Sug! But you're blinded by hatred. Maybe because of your mishap in the P-Islands.' You and your groupies can put me on ignore. I'm clean and have no hate or racist agenda. You don't determined what boxers that I be loyaled to. Since you are a bit older and traveled than your groupies, you oughta holla at 'em to halt da dumb syet, instead of being bat-arse blind to it intentionally. Where is da luv? And I will post in any syntax dat I want to. Casmine Cas and Raiders ain't running this Universe. They can do an atom and SPLIT! Holla!
-Radam G :
Casmine Cas, you and Jeffrey Dahmer being American cannibals and refrigerating, cooking and eating Asians, Latins and African Americans body parts "seems more likely then" you knowing syet about boxing or me. It is obvious that you're a serial cyberspace bullsyeter or you would know the talk and syntaxes of boxing talk. Pose on! You ain't impressing anybody, ______, but the posers and vaporers like you. Those in da game know da talk, and can walk the walk. Low you in all departments. Talking about a small humbug behind the curtain. Grow some size and a brain, and lose the belly, cyberspace shinning knight of alternate reality. Holla!
-Radam G :
-brownbomber :
-Radam G :
Brownboomer, use your regular pseudonym. Holla!
-Radam G :
YUP! Brownbomber, character like you are in need of class and a life. You dimwits don't get it. Hold your ground with your own syet. You don't have power to control how I post. And, needing help, you do the most. Hahaha! Go for it! Holla!
-brownbomber :
-brownbomber :
-Radam G :
-brownbomber :
-Carmine Cas :
-Radam G :
And it is not against the law. And the IP tracker is straight outta Asia, as the U.S. Prez is! And I criticize his arse too. Criticizing is not against the LAW! It is a thing of freedom, growth and commonsense, not cult bonding. BTW, I roll with Deepwater's posting 99.9 percent of the time. But you don't call him out. Hehehe! And you holla war propaganda against the Irish for not taking brainwashed syet. Buy gold. Hatred in your heart, don't hold. All corrupted governments will eventually fold. On bullsyetology of that not being so, don't be sold. Take a stance, and be bold. And quit believing _______ ______ that you are told. Holla!
-deepwater :
I didn't think anyone could be worse then bj bill, then Idiot bush came around, I didn't think anyone could be worse then bush then this clown came around. Just because people point out the corruptness of these people doesn't mean you hate the country ,it actually means you love the country. 50 cent got 5 charges against him for his birthday present, I think kicking a baby momma or something. Remember when the editor said 50 cent is a breath of fresh air for boxing and he talks well. Nice prediction. Ha ha . I say let Floyd knock him out he never won a damn golden gloves in ny anyway . Curtiss Jackson was eliminated before the quarter finals. He should leave boxing now before he embarrasses himself. Scully sent me a note asking is anyone coming to Connecticut for 50' s show . The answer is no. Only mike Oliver fans and people with free tickets .
-Radam G :
I'm cyber protecting my arse. The lazy-arse authorities that be cannot find syet half the time. I guess that they are on donut, coffee and coke breaks -- the soda and dat powdery syet. Hehehe! I'm always within the law. I'm not a "Big brother" man of straw. Holla!
-Radam G :
YUP! Curtis Jackson has been charged with whuppin' da Holy hebejeebeez outta one of his ex Ho friends -- I mean girlfriends -- and trashing her condo. He probably crashed through the ceiling cussing and puffing and huffing. Hehehe! Holla!
-Carmine Cas :
-Carmine Cas :
-brownbomber :
-Radam G :
My friend, you have inattentional blindness. Hissy fit, my arse. Everybodee and dey momma can criticize me. I come straight forward -- ala deepwater. And you twist my syet and are blinded to it being deepwater-like because you got Asians stereotyped as Charlie Chaplains. And bytch weak, and should be easy to beat. I got U.S. citizenship. And citizenship from three other countries. YUP! You passionate lover of nature and animals, you are jived out. And an easy-led by war-and-hate propaganda double hypocrite. First of all, their is virgin waters and terrain in 85 percent of Asia. Next -- as I noted -- Asians' diet is not of "consumptions" of our sacred animals "CATS and DOGS" anymore than Yanks are a bunch of cannibalistic Jeffrey Dahmers chowing down Asians, African Americans and Latins. A corrupted, warring U.S. government gave you fudged up cat-and-dog eating belief about Asians. And that is why you throw that jive out. Passionate animal lover, you don't knock the horse-eating French, or cow-and-pig eating Yanks. WTF! The none-meat eaters from India would not welcome that syet. But you are cool with that. You are knocking me because you are indeed being a humbug, or you will be dead. Your arse eat plants and animals. And those plants and animals that you eat, you don't give a darn about 'em, because than you syet 'em out. Hehehe! Now that is nature. Thank it before, while and after you are eating and defecating. I thanked the duck, the beets, yams, oats and parsley that I chowed on last night -- P-Islands' time. And I'm thanking this chicken for eggs that I'm going to eat. And I'm thanks to the frogs for their cousin's legs that I'm going to chew up. And I thank the trees for that wood that my toothpicks are made out of. I'm very passionated with nature and animals. They feed the syet outta me. And I always holla thanks. Now to an invisable God, saints and angels, I forget sometimes. It ain't my false. My IP tracker isn't that slick and quick yet. Sometimes, it acts like a small d??k. Hehehe! Jesus Wept! On my Ipad, the security just swept. Hahaha! Holla!
-amayseng :
i just watched 3 of Qullins fights, and although he is a big strong puncher he LACKS terribly both foot agility, body agility and overall coordination. GGG destroys this young puncher in 3-4 rounds, brutally, because Qullin stays in that pocket during his stiff trunk and concrete foot exchanges...
-brownbomber :
-Radam G :
I concur with amayseng about 3g kayoing 1Q. The Big Apple Kid Chocolate is rough around the edges. Three g has some blinding streath punches that are awesome. One Q will not know what hit him. Holla!
-Radam G :
Brownbomber, I have one of the most commonlike faces on the globe. Look at a lot of Asians -- black, brown and white. And you will be able to get a match. Or at least a batch. Hehehe! Skype will not open my latch. Besides I'm a Facetime and Google chat man. Jive those Skype Demons. I saw how they interrupted the Zimmerman Trial. Holla!
-brownbomber :
-Carmine Cas :
-amayseng :
Radam is legit. I know who he is and his accomplishments. He's not fibbing in the least. I figured it out with some persistent research and luck. But I won't give up his real name.
-Radam G :
How many times have you been to China, hater? We got syet that is 10,000 years old. We have people over a 130 years old. We don't have an obesity problem. We have Yanks traveling there for cures of everything, including cancers, aids and casmine cas -- I mean meddling insanity and chemical and electical disorders in the cranium that make you come to cyberspace and fudge with geniuses about juvenile make-believe syet! I exposed you as a cyberspace doofus. Now your world is discombobulated and you're Asian hating. Danggit! We're everywhere. Everything is going to'be all right. Don't worry about China. We will still supply technology to you. We are all up in the Big Apple. Hahahaha! What! You need a hook up? I'm real, Carmine Cas. You'll be all right. Don't be mad. Holla!
-brownsugar :
******** attention boxing fans ******** Martin Murray has stepped forward as the next Challenger for Golovkins' crown. Murray feels he has the combination of attributes necessary to slay the beast. I commend Murray and wish there were more fighters willing to challenge the elite...after all they're not fighting for free.... and ambulances are a necessary precaution at every fight. The fight is not signed...but Murray's fearless attitude will probably get him the opportunity. Make it happen...
-amayseng :
I already for sorry for Murray. Qullin would be less of a test. A strong hitter sure, although lacking coordination and skills.
-brownsugar :
Agreed...Quillen could't hit Winky solid ...GGG is well schooled at boxing harder hitters and more experienced boxers... would still like to see it though.
-Carmine Cas :
-Carmine Cas :
GGG keep on knocking down Sergio's former opposition in more impressive fashion, go knock out Chavez, he's calling you out
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