Freddie Roach: Marquez Wants Just About A 50-50 Split With Manny
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Pacquiao Marquez LA PC 120917 011aMost fight fans are keen on seeing if Manny Pacquiao can bounce back from the KO loss to rival-for-the-ages Juan Manuel Marquez last December. But that fifth scrap between the Congressman and the Mexican counter-punching ace hinges on Marquez. He's either negotiating skillfully, and actually wants the tussle, while pretending to be uninterested, or is truly set on conquering other territory. I asked Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach if he thinks we'll see Pacquiao-Marquez 5, in September.

“My gut instinct on what is next? I want it to be Marquez, Manny wants Marquez, but Marquez wants a lot, lot, lot of money,” Roach (seen with Pacquiao in above Chris Farina-Top Rank photo, before the fourth bout) told me. “I think it's a little outrageous. It may not happen. We might have to go to Mike Alvarado or Brandon Rios or a Tim Bradley rematch could be made. I want Marquez right away, Manny and I both want it. But Marquez wants just about a 50-50 split. Manny brings butts in seats, pay-per-view-wise, Manny is the guy. Obviously Manny deserves more. I think a rematch will make a lot more money than the last fight. I think both sides can ask for more and Marquez deserves something, but not 50-50.”

The fourth fight between the rivals did about 1.15 million buys on HBO Pay-Per-View, generating around $70 million in revenue. Pacquiao became the first boxer to do more than a million buys a year for five straight years, beating Mike Tyson.

Does Roach think its Marquez' ego growing larger is he playing negotiating mega-hardball? “They're both at the end of their careers, they want as much as possible, you can't blame them. But where else will Bradley get that kind of money? Nobody else in the world…Does he have any other place to go? For a Tim Bradley fight he'd get two million at the most.”

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COMMENTS

deepwater

Marquez can call all the shots because he has bragging rights and can walk away with bragging rights. he probably does not want the fight. a 50-50 is his way of getting out of the fight.


Radam G

Ditto Deepwater! Marquez is haggling his way out of the fight. It a Mexican pride thing. A lot of machismo over mucho dinero. Marquez is indeed a prizebytch -- I mean pridefighter. He went to Indonesia and fought and lost to John Chris for $30,000 when he could have fought Da Manny in a second rematch for $800,000. Now he may just fight the Cali Cranium Crusher/Big Foot for $2mil and get shafted in Cali or Sin City when he can fight Da Manny and get his arse KAYOED -- as he did Da Manny -- for $15mil to $30mil for the most watched fight in the history of World professional pugilism. Half of the 7mil of peeps on the planet would be eyeballing the live event. Da Manny would get $60mil plus. How much money will Showtime pay Money May for six fights? That is what I thought! Not as much as Da Manny is getting in his next two fights in ASIA, BABEE! See! The truth always comes out. The haters ought to halt the May Money LIES of being King of PPV. What has Da Manny done for USA's PPV in the last five years? That is what I THOUGHT? He is the true KING of PPV stateside. Now he is taking it GLOBAL and smashing the mythology of superiority of haters and bigots. Get out of the cacoon of xenophobism. It's Asian TIME, BABEE! Don't be MAD! Holla!


amayseng

Jmm took a beatin to land a few changing shots and get PAC out of there It's not worth going thro again. He will knock tim Bradley out. Then Floyd will only fight him at 154. Haha RG who do u think PAC fights next?


Radam G

I can tell you whom that may be in a week. But if you push me, I will say that Marquez will go for the money, instead of the jive about having an all roid-and-PEDs rumble with the Cali Cranium Crusher/Big Foot Cali. Hehehe! Holla!


Carmine Cas

As Marquez should get half, he arguably won all 4 fights and he just stamped an exclamation point on the rivalry. Pacquiao puts people in seats but Marquez just knocked out the man who brings venues money. He has bragging rights, whether is negotiation or pricing out he deserves half


Radam G

Marquez got his arse whupped in three of four fights. And he will get KAYOED in the fifth one. He knows it. Lets deal with reality and actuality. And Marquez may haggle his way out of this dance. He has great pride. For a good prize that he will get, he may as well suck it and man up fight for a bigger purse, but a lesser one than Da Manny. Holla!


Carmine Cas

Marquez has never been stopped, pacquiao was disconnected from his senses in his last fight. As a matter fact he's been stopped by body shots as a young fighter, in which you said were worse than this last highlight knock out lmao. No one knows if he's the same, to say he'll knockout someone whose never been stopped is irrational. You're pinoy pride is blinding you my friend


brownsugar

Yes the money's there .. However Marquez claims he wants to add another title to his legacy. Sometimes for certain individuals prestige can be more valuable than cash. And prestige can sometimes last longer. I wouldn't blame him for taking the path of least resistance (Bradley) But if he is angling for a greater percentage... He deserves it. Manny must concede to Marquez's demands if he wants another shot at redemption ...JM would be stupid to accept anything less.


SouthPaul

Hopefully the entire situation implodes and they both go separate directions. 5 times, folks, 5 times.....


Radam G

Ethnocentricism is the pride that is BLINDING. And the stank Pachaters -- I mean Yank Pachaters -- of that behavior are in full of effect of that shyt. The percentage of fair minds clearly says Da Manny two wins, Da cry-baby Marquez one win and a trumped-up draw because of a judge's miss scoring. [I'm reminded of Italians who holla at me that Jake LaMotta really beat Sugar Ray Robinson four matches to one -- despite the history books and fair-thinking minds say the opposite. This ethnocentic bullsyet-arse biasness never DIE.] Da Manny does not and will not conceive to shyt. Marquez can go to hell. Everybodee and dey momma who know and are in da game know what Marquez is doing. And Tim Bradley is not and will not fight his arse for a pridefight. The Cali Cranium Crusher has already committed himself to dance for da BIG PRIZEFIGHT rematch with Da Manny if crybaby-bytch Marquez punk out and fade to darkness. He doesn't run shyt. He is no Money May. Hehehe! The Cry baby can go back to drinking his pi$$ with those roids and PEDs of falling Angel Heredia. Hehehe! Da BobFather is running this show. WTF! Cyberspace ___ ____ ____ don't know shyt about boksing promoting. If Marquez walk da double fudge away, we are cool with that. He got Da Manny before Da Manny got him. In Bout V, Crybaby Marquez will be phatly PAID. But Pac-KNOCKOUT, his arse will be LAID. He knows it. Da Manny was whuppin' da holy hebejeebeez outta the crybaby roids-and-PEDs-using bytch until -- to his credit -- he caught Da Manny hotdogging, step on his foot and KaPOW! Knocked Da Manny da double fudge OUT! Okay! Now payback is a coming. And Marquez -- if he is smart -- will be a coming to take his arse-whuppin' KAYO like an Aztec Warrior and get paid PHATLY. It's about PRIZEFIGHTING first and foremost. Pride is internet posers and posters. Holla!


ali

55% to Pac 45% to Marquez sounds about right to me


maromero

Roach says Manny puts people in the seats? Idk... if he did then I guess they all rooting against him in spanish


Carmine Cas

Yes there is ethnocentrism but there is also obnoxious pride which just pushes away other people. Even when pac loses pactards like yourself still act as if he's the #1 p4p. And no the common consensus is mixed when it comes to the record of their fights. He beat up a bunch of old dehydrated welterweights at catch weights who were not able to rehydrate. But whatever right? He was the second highest paid athlete in the world, as long you as you blind the masses making you think you're the greatest it's okay.50-50 split


Radam G

Whatever you conclude in your cranium is on you. Bigotry is for the low in all that matter. Those in that category make up their bullsyet based on there isolations of lack of experiences with out-of-group people. Use a euphemism of pride. A spade is still a spade. And sad excuse to instigate when you cannot control the flow thought and expression. And because of an apparent mixed-up strong belief system and a feeling of ethnic superiority, you always believe something is wrong with the protagonist. You think your way based on naivete. And I know my way based on mass and personal communication with just about every type of human on the globe. I go to no one with assumptions, stereotyping and/or grouping and so-called race placement. [It was childish racist to place and compare boxers based on race or ethnicity, in comparing to other racists and ethnicities.] Then start hollering that they be labeled my way, because they refused to fit in where I put them in. So with you, it must just be whacky pride. Because you are driving this you-better-think-like-this ride. Holla!


brownsugar

55% to Pac 45% to Marquez sounds about right to me
Marquez gets 65% and Paq gets 35% ......... The victor gets the spoils and its probably more than what Marquez received in most of their fights. Plus each fighter donates 5% to their favorite charity


Radam G

Dat way of thinking is dumb as heck in reality boxing and life. This is no fantasy syet. And haters in cyberspace don't run JACK. And ain't got an iota of MACK! Marquez will definitely get the lesser amount, or he can just stay in his boxing-bottom SHACK! And that is real life. Not alternate reality. Matter of fact, he can join the crowd at Showtime. In the brain amygdala function of a hypocrite sits a bozo on roids and PEDs. FTR, there is strong evidence about the unusual high onset of luekodstrophy in middle-age adults. Some serious going-back-into-childhood syet. Marquez has already apparently gone through puberty TWICE! That muthabytch is near 40-years old and delevops more Hulk bodee than the straight-up REAL Hulk. Wow! That is some real fallen-Angel Heredia ___ ____ ___ ___! Holla!


Radam G

Going all the way WAY, WAY back in da day. Jack Johnson didn't get the lion share because he was not the drawing card against "White Hope" Jimmy Jeffries. "Unforgivable Blackness" sucked it up like a man and got paid nicely for the time and for being "a colored" fighter. He never bytch cried or believed in fantasy about getting the most money. He was just happy to get the white man's money and the white man's honey. Hehehe! He went to jail for it. That cat shook up society so badly that U.S. America and the U.S. Prez won't give his naughty arse a pardon over a hundred later and 63 years after ole Jackie boy has been dirt napping. Hehe! Wow! How you are going to be scared of bones in a cemetery? In the rematch with Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney, GT didn't get the most or an equal amount because he was not the drawing card. Double fudge "The victor gets the spoil" in professional seedy pugilism. That ain't the way it goes. And no cyberspace haters can change it. In four of the bouts in which fighters upset Sugar Ray Robinson, they didn't get the lion share, because they couldn't draw syet without the Sugarman. Again four-time double fudge even a single "victor" getting the spoils. The victor ain't running syet if he cannot put those butts in the seat and eyeballs in front of those PPV screens and Big Screen movie threatre. In Cassius Clay-Sonny Liston bout, the champ Liston didn't get the lion share because "The Louisville Lips" was the pugilist putting the butts in the seat. In Sugar Ray Leonard-Roberto Duran II, whupped-da-Sugarman's-@$$ Fists of Stone -- "The victor" -- didn't get the lion share [any spoils] in that rematch because and everybodee and dey momma were coming to see if the 1980s Sugarman win it back. Leon Spinks -- the victor -- didn't get the lion share [the spoils] in the second bout for beating GOAT Ali in the first dance. Victor Iran Barkley didn't get the lion share [the spoils] in the second bout for kayoing Tommy [Got da double fudge knocked out] Hearns. My boy Holy -- the victor -- didn't get the lion share [the spoils] or an equal amount in the second bout kayoing "Iron" Mike Tyson. Matter of fact, Holy lost a lion share of his ear. Somebody forgot to tell the Iron about the victor getting the spoils in that dance. Bottomline, Pac-hating ain't going to change syet. He is the cashcow. And Cry-baby Hulkquez needs to slap his roids-and-PEDs-using @ss into reality and actuality with a pi$$y towel. Hehehe! Holla!


maromero

Hulkquez....lmfao


Radam G

On, YUP! And one more major rematch from back in da day. Hashim Rahman didn't get the lion share in the second bout for kayoing Lennox Lewis in that first one. In the seedy hurt bitnezz, nobody gives a rat's @$$ about the victor getting the spoils. He'd get his ear bit off by an Iron Mike, and busted in the nuts and bitten on the neck by a foul Pole. Holla!


ali

B-sugu know it about putting butts in the seats and I still think Pac has a bigger following.


TioMamoy13

I would have to humbly disagree, here in the Philippines we know that the days of our god da manny are ending :(


brownsugar

B-sugu know it about putting butts in the seats and I still think Pac has a bigger following.
True......Ali. But at the same time...Marquez is one of the few opponents who is guaranteed to pack the house. And its not like the boxing community still cares that much. There's something morbid about a 5th fight. Much like Vasquez vs Marquez 4 was a morbid display of 2 champion grinding each others careers into obscurity. Personally I'd like to see the man who destroyed Paq mix it up with some fresh talent. Bradley or Alvarado would make for some riveting entertainment Marquez has already made it clear to Arum that he's nobodies puppet. He's well aware of his self worth and what his contribution to a fifth fight means financially. If Paq wants redemption .. He must make the sacrifice... He Must pay the price. Or he should just go fight someone else and try to pump his profile back up.


the Roast

JMM holds the cards here. He won big so he calls the shots. 50-50 is very reasonable.


TioMamoy13

50-50 jmm


Radam G

Here we go again with a knuckle-headed aged manchild bytch. You are always trying to pull this Universe down. Grow da FΔck up and get more medicine for your mental illness. You always start whacked-out childplay on the weekend when you hope and believe that Editor Mike is not here. You are a sick puppy. Your international criminal arse is on my ignore list. I will let Editor Mike handle you. Can you even get a passport to travel out of the U.S.A.? Holla!


Radam G

BTW, "nobody's puppet" is for threatic comsumpion for cyberspace's fanfaronades, groupies, posers and haters. Hulkquez will fall in line for the play and pay or he won't fight PERIOD! This isn't grow-age men on a Pop Warner football field fibbing about their sons being the best ever. Hulkquez is going to keep taking his roid and PEDs and be a good boy and get paid by the BobFather and beat-up paid and laid by Da Manny. And that is real life. No alternate reality or cyperspace clutter. Real life is a real bytch, then you really die. Holla!


TioMamoy13

@radam What about a 60-40 split for the winner?


ali

Hulkquez....lmfao
Lmao!!


ali

Here we go again with a knuckle-headed aged manchild bytch. You are always trying to pull this Universe down. Grow da FΔck up and get more medicine for your mental illness. You always start whacked-out childplay on the weekend when you hope and believe that Editor Mike is not here. You are a sick puppy. Your international criminal arse is on my ignore list. I will let Editor Mike handle you. Can you even get a passport to travel out of the U.S.A.? Holla!
Triple O.G who u talking about


TioMamoy13

@ali What up dogg I'm back like cooked cut ____ p.s. he ain't a triple og..maybe in video games


Radam G

Dat a-hole knows who he is. IP tracking all day and night. And a visible without damwit knowing Da haps. SCLA Ali, I'm not posting about you. You are no international crime. That muthasucka knows who he is, and believes that he can fool all the people all the time. The bytch has a Thousand And Two Personalities. And he can only control three of them. What a textbook study of a _____ ____ gone wild in cyberspace. The case study ____ is incapable of realizing syet. And tries to go on all type of covert and lament attacks. He can't handle me mano-a-mano so he uses different pseudonyms. Now he using the pseudonyms of TioMamoy13. I won't callout the other ones that he has used. Troublesome he-bytch goes from being black to Latin. Now he is a Filipino. You know what Richard Pryor would say: "That's ____ crazy!" And your home girl, Layla Ali, the the Los Angeles-born daughter of GOAT Ali, would say: "That stupid-@ss _____ is fooling himself." Holla!


TioMamoy13

@radam Do you think Pacquiao should have a rematch against Timothy Bradley if he doesn't fight Rey Marquez?


ali

@ali What up dogg I'm back like cooked cut ____ p.s. he ain't a triple og..maybe in video games
Lol! what's up fam, r u and radam ever going to get alone


Radam G

Wow! Heartbreak is a sad thing. And it makes a small-d*** _____ lose his mind. Dude can't hold a honey, because he ain't got any money. Will he ever learn? No finance, no ROMANCE! No pay, he-bytch -- in dat dame's house yo' broke-@ss cannot stay. No bread, not an iota will those legs SPREAD! No bling, BLING! Not on dat doll can you use you nano-size ding-a-ling. Hahahaha! Get a GOOD JOB, and go on DUTY, then maybe she will give you some BOOTY! Manchild, you are pathetic. Now you are acting as Anony from the old Universe. He "Never Could Say Goodbye!" -- or is that he never could control himself from stalking behaviors and cloning others. Now your trifling-dimwitted hinny is pulling names out of readers' posts, and stalking with 'em with those name. Does yo' momma love you? Because the damsel that left your criminal arse and bad, controlling tude won't be back. Hehehe! Just forget about her. Go to the park [and] the picture shows...Have you seen her? Why! Oh, Why! Did she leave you? You are feeling "MISTY BLUE!" And you are a BIG A-HOLE TOO! Vent your anger somewhere else. Anger sits in the bosom of fools. So just go and find you a bosom buddy and look for the signs of anger. Hahaha! Holla!


Radam G

BTW, dimwitted bozo _____ get you some quantum dental work done on your ragged-@ss grill. Don't you think that your mug is frightening enough with dat wobbly, wrinkled, big, ole cranium? And maybe you can go under the knife and get deduction on those giant-arse Neanderthal he-she jowls on that ugly mug. I'm finished! As usual, you will be thrown out before long. When the powers that be get enough of your ancient immature arse and have the po po and the FBI to put you on Cell Block M for cyber stalking, you will be on your knees with one convict standing in front your big-wide-opened lipped missing grill, and another convict will be drilling your winkled backside in you know where. Hehehe! You ___ ___ ___ ____ ___ ___ __ ___! Hahaha! Holla!


TioMamoy13

@radam The popo and FBI? Are u ok??? Whacko


Radam G

Wow! BIG _____, UP in this Universe, once you get threw with trying to cause chaos and strife, you have to deal with your sad, sorry-arse existence in real life. And that is 24/7/365 equaling 8,760 hours, 525,600 minutes and 31,536,000 seconds -- far more than your tiny check. What da heck! Use dat big, ole wobby head on yo' neck. The Filipino Flash forgot to use his lash, but he got the BIG CASH. AND now to the bank, he can DASH! And you Pinoy haters, yo' low-fund @sses, can blow away like ash. You are so darn broke. That's why you be venting, posing and hating up in cyberspace. Around your chubby necks, real life is gettin' on its choke. And you can barely afford a dwelling place. Don't blame it on me. Blame it on the rain. I'm down with O-P-P! And I'm not the one who is causing financial and relationship pain. By attacking me, nothing you can gain. On yourself, you are just putting more stress and psychological strain. Use all the various pseudonyms that your cowardly, hard ___life dig. I will be up in this Universe like it is my gig! On me, don't waste your ____ ____! Your trifling fat arse is outdated like a MIG. Hehehe! Holla!


TioMamoy13

Wow! BIG _____, UP in this Universe, once you get threw with trying to cause chaos and strife, you have to deal with your sad, sorry-arse existence in real life. And that is 24/7/365 equaling 8,760 hours, 525,600 minutes and 31,536,000 seconds -- far more than your tiny check. What da heck! Use dat big, ole wobby head on yo' neck. The Filipino Flash forgot to use his lash, but he got the BIG CASH. AND now to the bank, he can DASH! And you Pinoy haters, yo' low-fund @sses, can blow away like ash. You are so darn broke. That's why you be venting, posing and hating up in cyberspace. Around your chubby necks, real life is gettin' on its choke. And you can barely afford a dwelling place. Don't blame it on me. Blame it on the rain. I'm down with O-P-P! And I'm not the one who is causing financial and relationship pain. By attacking me, nothing you can gain. On yourself, you are just putting more stress and psychological strain. Use all the varies pseudonyms that your cowardly, hard ___life dig. I will be up in this Universe like it is my gig! On me, don't waste your ____ ____! Your trifling fat arse is outdated like a MIG. Hehehe! Holla!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH this guy the rapping granny