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Johnson Confirms Roy Jones' Suspect Chin
By Frank Lotierzo
Last night in attempt to win a piece of the light heavyweight title for the third time, Roy Jones was knocked out by Glencoffe Johnson 41-9-2 (28) in the ninth round with one straight right hand. Johnson, who is not a puncher, was 8-9-2 in his last 19 fights since 1997 and was making the first defense of his IBF light heavyweight title. In his last fight prior to fighting Johnson, Jones lost his title to Antonio Tarver. Tarver knocked Jones out in the second round with one explosive left hook. The left hook Tarver knocked Jones out with was the only clean punch he landed in the fight. In his last two fights, Roy Jones has been counted out. Both times it was the result of being hit with one clean punch thrown by fighters who weren't known as punchers. Since turning pro in May of 1989, and breezing through his first 51 fights, Jones has been stopped twice. Has father-time finally caught up with Jones, or does he have a soft chin? Those are the only two factors that can clarify why Jones hasn't been able to finish his last two fights. That is unless you regard Tarver's left hook in the same vein as Bob Foster's, and Johnson's right hand the "Spinks Jinx." Which is a conversation I'll never take part in. In my opinion, father-time has slowed Jones slightly, and he can no longer out-speed his fundamental flaws. Like former heavyweight champ Muhammad Ali, Jones defied a lot of boxing basics and never learned fundamental defense. The fact is neither Ali or Jones ever learned how to block, slip, or parry a punch. They used their legs to keep from getting hit with big shots and moved away. This was wrong and most fighters wouldn't last long if they relied on the same tactic. What saved Ali and Jones was they were so fast in their prime, they could move away from the incoming punches faster than their opponent could deliver them. Once Ali lost some of his speed as he aged, he was hit more frequently by his opponent's big shots. The same thing has now happened to Roy Jones. He no longer can escape his opponents’ punches by just out speeding them and using his legs to take him out of harms way. Now, like Ali at the end of his career, because he can no longer count on his speed for defense, he is getting hit more. The only difference between Muhammad Ali and Roy Jones is Ali has a cast iron chin, and Jones has a suspect one at best. Those who want to believe Roy Jones was Sugar Ray Robinson incarnate, will point to his age as the reason why he's been counted out in his last two fights as the result of one punch. That's not a reach, and does factor in to the equation regarding Jones being stopped in consecutive fights. But the reason Jones was able to win a piece of the title in four different weight divisions is because his brilliant speed made him almost unhittable, and he never needed his suspect chin as the last line of defense. All you have to do to realize this is—honestly ask yourself how many times was Jones nailed with a really big shot in his career before the second Tarver fight? The answer is he wasn't. Boxing fans and writers have been asking about Jones' chin his entire career. You couldn't say he had a weak chin because we never saw him really cracked on hit. So that would just be speculating. On the other hand, you couldn't say he had an outstanding or great chin because he never had to prove it. Look, a chin is just like speed and punching power. A fighter is either blessed with it or he's not. The chin of a fighter doesn't erode overnight. Fighters with a good chin can be softened up by an accumulation of many punches over the course of many fights. An example would be Razor Ruddock. Ruddock had an outstanding chin in his two fights with Mike Tyson. However, after 19 tough rounds with Tyson, Ruddock was never as durable. Felix Trinidad did the same thing to Fernando Vargas. As a result of the bombs Vargas took during the fight with Trinidad, he left the ring a different fighter and much more prone to being knocked out. The problem for Roy Jones is there isn't a Tyson or Trinidad fight in his career, not one. Jones' beard was never hit and tested at all over his first 51 fights, so it wasn't softened up a bit. And don't say it's because of his legs failing him. That is part of the reason as to why he's easier to hit, but his legs aren't the reason why he's been starched by one punch twice. This may be a bit harsh, but other than politics, boxing is as harsh as it gets. The truth is Roy Jones was never hit once with any significant punches from 1989 through 2003, which is nothing short of being remarkable. Again, if you think that is too tough on him, just remember how many times you came away from 51 of his fights thinking how you never really saw him nailed with a punch that is worth remembering. It was a bunch of near hits and just misses, but nothing making any real contact. And give Jones credit for being that good, he just simply didn't allow his opponents to catch him with anything big. Not to mention that Jones never fought any outstanding punchers during his career. I believe that Roy Jones has a weak chin, and that it was there his entire career. It's just that as long as he retained his speed, it was never a problem. But once he lost just a morsel of his reflexes and speed, his chin became reachable. Remember, Jones wasn't hit with anything close to the punches that Tarver and Johnson hit him with in his last to fights. We’re talking about being counted out twice as a result of one big punch. In this writer's opinion, a fighter must have a great chin if he is to be compared favorably to the greatest of the greats. This is even more true in the heavyweight division. The chin needs to be the last line of defense because when great fighters fight other great fighters, nobody escapes being nailed, nobody. Had Roy Jones confronted some of boxing history’s greatest middleweight and light heavyweight champions, I know one thing, even at his brilliant best he would've been nailed, and more than once. How would he have held up? No one can say for sure. The only thing I can say with absolute certainty is, I only saw Roy Jones get hit twice with a meaningful punch in his career, and both times that happened he was counted out. There's a reason why Jones never wanted a rubber match with Antonio Tarver, and it wasn't money. He was glove shy from the onset fighting a guy who couldn't punch. How would we he fight a guy that already knocked him out. And to think at one time there was a boxing analyst who inferred that Jones would've probably defeated Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano. Eventually that analyst left his network because he wanted more money. I said it then, and I'll say it again, they should've fired him on the spot for saying something so utterly stupid. Can any true boxing aficionado envision Louis or Marciano being defeated by a fighter with no chin?
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I think your right Frank about a lot what you said, but I have a little different view of what doing Roy in.
First of all Roy did fight one of the heaviest punchers the Super Middleweight division has everseen that being James "Lights out" Toney. Roy beat him like he beat Ruiz not only with his speed, but more importantly with his mind. Roy was one of the quickest if not the quickest that boxing has ever seen, but I think it's a matter of Roy beating himself more so than Roy being beat.
I know that as you get older you have to reinvent yourself because your reflexes are not as fast as they used to be, but in Roy's case even though the had speed is still there and the foot speed isn't he's still faster than anybody in the ring that he steps in with. I think Roy is just simply not doing the things that made what he is today. I know he got a way a lot with his speed early in his career and that was totally evident, but he needs to get back to the "Roy" basics. Everything in Roy's game early to midway through his career stemmed from the lead left hook. He shot that in so fast that nobody had a chance to react and by the time they covered up he was already landing his fifth and sixth shot, but more importantly they had to respect it because if they didn't there was a good chance that they were going to get knocked out. This was important. If boxers don't respect your punching power they'll take a punch so they can get a big shot of their own and that's what Tarver did, but we'll get to him in a bit. I think Roy was able to do this so often though because his competition at Middleweight and Super Middleweight wasn't as big as it is at Light Heavyweight and he knew he could throw his weight around. If you feel that your opponent can't knock you out then your going to walk right though him. Just look at Jones-Griffin I. Roy looked totally lost because he coudn't figure out Montel's crablike, southpaw stule and he was giving Montel too much respect. When Roy decided that Montel couldn't hurt him in the ninth round he chased him around the ring and knocked him down before he got disqualified. During Jones-Griffin II he picked up right where he left off and finished the job. If Roy incoporated that punch back into his arsenal the fights that he lost would played out differently because he would've gotten Tarver and Johnson's respect. It's funny because Roy said after Jones-Tarver III that the only way to beat Tarver was to brawl with him and the irony is is that is exactly what he was early to midway through his career, a crafty, fearless brawler who just made sure he didn't get hit.
Another example from the Jones-Griffin II fight of what Roy is not doing is cutting off the path of the punch. Whenever Roy could see that there was a clear path for someone to land a punch Roy would raise his arms up to block the punch or so that they couldn't extend their arms allowing them to get a clean shot off. When Roy knocked Montel down the first time in their rematch he blocked Montel's left hook as he connected with his own. He did it on instict and he put himself in a postion to do so because he didn't fear him. Tarver said that Roy has poor ring generalship and he may be right, but Roy has been so fast over his career he didn't have to have it, but not getting punched solidly over 15 years is not an easy thing to do and you can't do that on speed alone.
I know and I don't care what anyone sais, but in Jones-Tarver II, that was a lucky punch. Roy handed it to him on a silver plate. Tarver's game plan was much the same as it was in Jones-Tarver I. Stalk Roy, pin him on the ropes, land some body shots and steal the round. And in between try to beat Roy to the punch and land one big shot. Tarver had landed two jabs up to that point. TWO JABS! When Tarver threw that right jab, you know the one that missed him by a foot, Roy comeover the top with an anchor right and barely missed. Tarver had notrespect for Roy punching power which is why he was caught so far in. When Tarver went to cover up his forward momentum took him into Roy's space and when this happened Roy felt confined and started leaning back. Two things happened at this point. When Tarver lunged forward to throw his left hook he started moving his right glove towards Roy's face to get his balance and in doing so Roy thought for a brief second that Tarver trying to punch him and this is where it went all wrong. Roy hesitated and instead of going to the ropes he waited for an opening and doing this he had to commit. When Tarver lunged forward he wrapped his right leg around Roy's left leg not allowing to get out. Roy was directly in the patch of Tarver's left hook and the only thing he could of done was duck, but Roy was committed and by this time he was out of position. He had moved backwards to throw his own left hook which allowed Tarver to extend his arms, he was committed so he couldn't duck and worst of when Roy threw his counter left hook he was on the balls of his feet. Roy's palm landed on the side of Tarver's face but there was not torque on the punch and Tarver's left hook land split second afterwards. Roy never saw it coming because he was thinking Tarver was trying to do one thing when in actuality he was doing something else. Roy simply put processed the information that came at him wrong. Why do I say it was a lucky punch, because Tarver knockout was not done by design and he hasn't done s#*! since then, but lose two out of four fights.
The one thing about Roy that bother's me is that it seems like his camp is not making smart decisions. He fought Tarver four months after Ruiz and as Tarver found out against Hopkins your body is completely sapped of energy when you have to lose that much weight in that short of an amount of time. Tarver choked on it and it was beautiful. But what bother's me was the way Roy's corner was handling him as Johnson took it to him round after round. Johnson punched Roy in the 5th on the ropes and Roy's legs buckled. Roy was in obvious trouble at that point. He was trying to do the rope-a-dope and number one you have to be in the center of the ropes so that you can lean back so you don't fully absorbe the punch, don't be in the corner. When your opponent comes in you punch him to the head and make him pay that way he sticks to the body and punches himself out. Roy did neither of that, but what bothered me was his trainer. After the 5th his trainer told him that he needed to start "laying some glove on him" as Roy was talking to a friend outside of the ring. You can't be his trainer and friend at the same time. He should of told Roy's friend to get lost and at the same time he should of told Roy your doing the rope-a-dope wrong and getting your ass kicked! Get to the center of the ring and pepper him to death.
I guess what was the hardiest to see was Roy in his interview with Larry Merchant after Jones-Tarver III. I never thought I would see the day when Roy would admit he was satisfied with a loss. We knew what he meant. The worst thing a boxer can do is lose his confidence in the ring and Roy clealry had little of it that night. Roy was just happy to not get knocked out, and his legacy has suffered dearly because of it. At this point he was just a shell-of-a-man. A man that was feared, admired, and loved for his natural ability has become for the first time in his illustrious career, ordinary.
Monday May 7, 2007 09:36:39 PM
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His friends should tell ITS TIME TO QUIT ! Period.. Its all over . The game caught up like it has done so many good boxers . Ali, tyson Joe lewis and a lot more .
Sunday Nov 23, 2008 04:05:03 AM
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