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Bradley Or Mayweather For Pacman?
By David A. Avila
Rumors continue to ricochet from parking lots, to casinos, to boxing gyms and through the Internet, and the center of all the rumors continue to be who will be Manny Pacquiao’s next opponent?
A survey circulated around the boxing world revealed that Timothy “Desert Storm” Bradley was the favorite of those who participated in the informal poll. It wasn’t Floyd Mayweather, Antonio Margarito or Miguel Cotto who hard core boxing fans want to see versus Pacman. It was the kid from Palm Springs.
Bradley? Wow.
That was a shocking surprise to me. Though many including this writer feel he has the physical tools to match the Filipino superstar, it was an eye-opener to see that many fans prefer Bradley over Mayweather.
Mayweather has experience, defensive skills that border on genius, and just enough power to keep a whirlwind fighter like Pacquiao from attacking with impunity. Bradley has the same physical attributes, but lacks the experience of fighting in a mega fight with all of the world watching.
Mega fights are like no other prize fights. Aside from entering a ring in front of more than 16,000 screaming fans, and knowing that more than 1 million households have purchased the fight, there is much more to a mega fight.
Pacman and Money Mayweather know all about it.
You see, it’s a long arduous road that involves a non-stop road schedule of hyping the fight with numerous press conferences. Then there are the one-on-one stops in between the scheduled stops with boxing writers and high-powered sports columnists from New York, Jersey City, Boston, Philadelphia and Washington D.C. on the East Coast.
Sometimes there are other stops in Miami and Chicago depending on the nationality of the fighter.
All this takes place in the beginning of the announcement.
Once training starts there are numerous visits by television and radio crews from all over the country. In Pacquiao’s case they come from all over the world. Also, you have journalists descending on the training camps with their notebooks, recorders and video cameras too. The phone rings constantly with requests for interviews and this goes on every day during a mega fight.
It’s a lot to digest for a prizefighter in his first boxing bonanza.
The other factor is that fans come up every second with demands for autographs, photos or time to chat. They want to have their children pose with the fighter and they don’t care if your sitting down and just about to put a fork full of salad in your mouth. People will stop you and ask for whatever they want to ask.
It’s a daily grind.
Then, during the last two weeks before the big fight, the calls come in like machine gun fire. Sponsors want you to sign boxing gloves, pose for photos and meet their vice presidents and associate vice presidents. More press conferences are ordered by phone and during the last week there are more press conferences. It’s similar to a hurricane descending on the Gulf of Mexico-mass chaos.
Even the best fighters have been known to crack.
Mayweather and Pacquiao know all about this. Even Cotto and Margarito know all about this. The big question is can Bradley deal with the hype and demand of a mega fight.
So far, the Desert Storm seems pretty even keel about everything. He has balance not only in the ring but in life.
That can help a lot.
“Timothy is one the hardest workers and most dedicated fighters in the world,” said Alex Camponovo, who serves as a matchmaker for one of Bradley’s co-promoters Thompson Boxing Promotions. “He’s amazing.”
Maybe Bradley can be the guy Pacman needs?
More boxing chatter
Desert Showdown at Spotlight 29 in Coachella begins Wednesday July 21 and continues until Saturday July 24. Many of the best amateur boxers will take part in the tournament that has gained popularity nationwide. For more information (760) 775-5566.
Former bantamweight world title challenger Jose Navarro (27-5, 12 KOs) fights Juan Jose Beltran (22-16-3) at Club Nokia on Thursday July 22. It’s the second appearance for the former 2000 U.S. Olympian who came within one point of a world title on two occasions. For tickets and information go to www.ticketmaster.com
Freddie Roach’s fighter Craig McEwan of Scotland faces San Diego’s Danny Perez on Friday July 23 at Pechanga Resort and Casino. McEwan amassed more than 300 fights as an amateur and has worked with the Hall of Fame trainer for more than two years at the Wild Card Boxing gym. Perez is a former world title challenger. Local star Charles Huerta and former Olympian Gary Russell Jr. are also on the card.
Mexico’s undefeated Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. will fight former middleweight world champion Kelly Pavlik on Dec. 4, said Cameron Dunkin who manages Pavlik. Chavez recently defeated John Duddy by knockout last month. Pavlik lost his world title to Argentina’s Sergio Martinez in his last fight.
Mexico’s Fernando Montiel (43-2-2, 33 KOs) knocked out Panama’s Rafael Concepcion (14-5-1, 8 KOs) at 1:07 of the third round in Mexico on Saturday. Montiel was making the first world title defense of the WBC bantamweight belt he captured by knockout out Japan’s venerable Hozumi Hasegawa. A possible match with former flyweight world champion Nonito Donaire could happen later this year.
WBA cruiserweight world titleholder Beibut Shumenov defends his title against Viacheslov Uzelkov on Friday at Tachi Palace in Lemoore, Calif. Also on the Gossen-Tutor fight card is Rico Ramos (16-0) matched against Mexico’s Cuauhtemoc Vargas (15-3-1) in a junior featherweight clash.
Heavyweight challenger David Tua (51-3-2, 43 KOs) fought to a draw against Monte Barrett (34-9-1, 20 KOs) after 12 rounds on Saturday in Atlantic City. Barrett said he was retiring after the fight. Tua had hoped a win could place him in a position to fight for one of the four world titles. He was knocked down in the final round.
Strikeforce MMA brings Challengers 9 fight card to Comcast Arena in Everett, Wash. On Friday July 23. Sarah Kaufman fights Roxanne Modaferri for the Strikeforce welterweight title.
A mixed martial arts fight card takes place on Saturday July 24 at the Hollywood Palladium. Respect MMA – World War 3 starts at 6 p.m.
Mexico’s Jhonny Gonzalez (44-7) meets Aristides Perez (17-2-1) in a 12 round featherweight bout on Saturday July 24, in Campeche, Mexico. The former bantamweight world titleholder Gonzalez is on a four fight winning streak.
Mexican boxers Jorge “El Travieso” Arce (54-6-1, 41 KOs) and Martin “Gallito” Castillo (35-3, 18 KOs) battle on Saturday July 31 in Nayarit, Mexico. The two former world champions had been close to fighting each other for the past four years but it never happened.
Puerto Rico’s Carlos Velasquez (13-0, 11 KOs) stopped Mexico’s wild swinging Eduardo Arcos (15-2, 12 KOs) at 1:19 of the fifth round of a junior lightweight contest on Friday in Puerto Rico.
Matthew Hatton (40-4-2, 15 KOs) survived an early knockdown to beat Yuriy Nuzhnenko (30-2-1, 14 KOs) by unanimous decision after 12 rounds and capture the EBU welterweight title on Friday in Bolton, England. Hatton is the younger brother of Ricky Hatton who fought Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather.
Middleweight Fernando Guerrero (19-0, 15 KOs) took a hard fought decision win over Ishe Smith (21-5) on Friday in Mississippi. Also winning was junior middleweight Shawn Porter (16-0, 12 KOs) by decision over Ray Robinson (11-2) and junior welterweight Mike Dallas Jr. (15-0-1) over Lanard Lane (12-1, 7 KOs).
Former world champion Zab Judah (39-6, 27 KOs) knocked out Southern California’s Jose Armando Santa Cruz (28-5, 17 KOs) with a left uppercut at 2:33 of the third round of a junior welterweight clash on Friday. Though Judah is a former undisputed welterweight world champion, he is moving back down to junior welterweights.
Australia’s Danny Green (29-3, 26 KOs) defends his IBO cruiserweight world title against Paul Briggs (26-3, 18 KOs) on Wednesday July 21 in Perth, Australia. It’s Briggs, 34, first fight in three years.
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Sakmol:
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Pacquiao-Margarito- lots of Action
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 02:19:52 AM
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ali:
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Bradley is not that good he's good to get KO early against Pac if that fight happen it would be a waste of time he throw way to many wide punches.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 02:23:09 AM
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brownsugar:
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Wow!! the TSS just keeps it comin'... so here's my last 2cents of the day... I thought Berto did his homework and showed a lot of smarts against one of the top contenders for the 147 title.... he won convincingly but didn't have that extra 5% to humble Abregu in the late rounds... in fact he appeared to be pacing himself so he could cruise to the finish rather than conclude the fight... I'm sure you don't have to be a boxing expert to see that Bradley really telegraphs certain power shots and ducks blindly at times which could be dangerous against a more accomplished boxer.... But I think Bradley seems to fight a little differently in every fight... he trains to take advantage of his opponents flaws,.. yet still shows a little vunerability in other areas...I think he would give Pac a surprisingly good fight,.. because he always comes prepared to fight the right fight... but if Pac sees him winding up like he did against Abregu or hesitating while he's ducking... it could be lights out... Look!.... Bradley asked for it!!... he made the bold challenge... let's see how it plays out...I'm not mentioning Floyd because he obviously has other plans...however Bradley vs Pac is far from the worst matchup I could imagine... and he's a more appealing opponent (and personality)than a retread like the dull plodding knuckle dragging Margarito. All Margarito ever had was a chin and an economy size gas tank... but since his chin is no longer bullet proof... and Mosely engineered the hit and hold strategy to stop Margarito from gaining momentum....what can he really offer?.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 02:37:35 AM
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destructor:
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bradley is not ready ,let's not forget he was almost knock out by kendall holt manny is stronger faster will beat him right \now like a tune -up fight.pacquiao vs margarito at 154 is probably what will happen.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 02:38:39 AM
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Isaiah:
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Floyd doesn't deserve a penny more of our money or an iota more of our attention. By all means, grant Tim Bradley or Andre Berto a shot at the big time which is Manny Pacquiao and see if one of them can hang with the big dog.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 03:35:17 AM
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Frank Z:
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Bradley's not ready for Pacquiao or mayweather. Watching how he punches i think he punches with an open hand a lot of the times so he doesn't carry his power like he should. There's no way a guy who's that well conditioned and punches with that sound of technique should be that soft a puncher unless he's not closing his hand all the way. he's got good speed, good enough overall skill to trouble both those guys, but that lack of power, and tendency to concentrate on shoeshine boxing instead of looking through targets will do him in.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 04:21:56 AM
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Joke Coach:
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I'm afraid Bradley does not have power to hurt pacquiao.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:13:45 AM
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Fe'Roz :
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Whether or not you believe Bradley is ready and/or capable of fighting with Manny right now is obviously a matter of opinion. I personally do not think he is ready. The salient point of the survey referred to in this article is that fight fans are starting to turn towards a dynamic young man who shows a love for the game and it's fans. A man who challenges himself and the best, no matter who. A man that has quickly climbed above his natural fighting weight in order to make and meet every challenge. Like Manny himself, Tim Bradley wants to fight ....weight nor opponent be damned. I would venture to say that one key factor underlying Manny's popularity here, in the Philippines, in Puerto Rico, in Mexico, and around the world is that he is 'the little man who could.' Not a shrinking violet. But a David to Goliath. His move up the ranks in weight and opponent has taken his initial fan base and multiplied it dramatically. Timothy Bradley took an opportunity on ShoBox two years ago, went into Junior Witter's backyard in England as a 6 to 1 underdog...on the night that Witter was on the cusp of becoming a huge British prizefighter...and beat the champion. Stole his money right from him in front of his fans. Today, he is in front of us precisely because he can win the big fight. Maybe not against Manny...but who can. I think the public is already turning it's attention toward men that love combat...and away from those who rarely seek it. Bradley over Mayweather as the public's pick does not surprise me. At all.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:14:52 AM
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Isaiah:
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@Fe'Roz. The way you said that was true and to the point. Bradley is the real deal and Floyd Mayweather is not. Out with the trash who has wasted enough of everyone's time and in with the treasure. Good luck to the young, hungry man known as Tim Bradley.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:26:06 AM
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El Maromero:
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A fight with Bradley will be better at 140 cause Bradley at 147 doesnt have anything to match Pacquiao. At jr Welter I like Bradleys stamina and speed , and like B-Sug says Bradley fights different every time depending on his opponent. When its all set and done Pacquiao would still smash Bradley cause he comes in as a athletic , fast , mobile, enduring, accomplished fighter that uses his experience and he is still learning too.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 06:04:52 AM
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ranie:
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paquiao's knockout are more than bradley's win! bradley isnt that big of a name for the pacman yet. pacman should just consider sergio martinez for his 8th world title
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 09:04:51 AM
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RumirNero:
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Timothy Bradley is not that GOOD yet and aren't worth much yet unless his interest is kept-up.. just like Ricky Hatton, he might melt down when fighting with Manny Pacquiao.
Mentioning though Floyd "The Coward" Mayweather, Jr. in your article is not so impressive... a coward such as Floyd, Jr. is not worth a while anymore... he better be ignored, otherwise General Patton will be after his ass.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 10:08:43 AM
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Paclander:
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I want Bradley to prove he's capable of fighting Pacquiao by fighting Berto first!
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 10:51:05 AM
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eagle_one:
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Bradley still has unfinished business in 140, he should beat Khan and Alexander first on a PPV fight for us fight fans to decide how deserving he is to have a shot with either Pac or Floyd.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 11:31:15 AM
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aljamieson:
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Bradley can't bring ppv or gate. Margarito has a Mexican fan base and Cotto a Puerto Rican fanbase. Both provide revenue by means of increased PPV buys and gate. I think that's the calculus for Pacquiao's next opponent.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 12:29:56 PM
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maze:
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Tim Bradley...? well, he may be getting his retirement if he fights manny now. He's not yet ready for the boxing's big gun... Marami ka pang kakaining bigas BOY....
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 02:00:21 PM
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lc :
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Bradley is simply trying to ride Pacquaio's celebrity GOD-LIKE status to promote his own name. Still inexperienced and GREEN! Pacquaio would just KILL Bradley, no ifs or buts.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 02:12:53 PM
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erns:
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this is a good topic. i think bradley isnt ready for pacman yet... but time has run out and pacman is fighting his last fight this coming november and sad to say, this is it mayweather, bradley, cotto, margarito or martinez, this is the last fight of manny pacquiao and we will be missing his kind... im not against mayweather but he never really gave the boxing fans our worth by ducking on manny. his game will solve him and he will fall into a pit that no one will want to pull him out.
martinez is an interesting fight for manny more than cotto or margarito. and 8th world title is very good for manny if he can capture it for the boxing world.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 03:20:52 PM
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The Saint:
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I think the boxing commissioners should now start charging fees to any fighter who calls out Pacquiao. Call out Pacquiao and you instantly make it to the headlines. That's free advertisement right there.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 03:24:59 PM
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mindhunter:
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remember when pac was starting out when nobody knew him and nobody even thought he could slug it out with the top guys? who knows berto or bradley could be that person who could give pac a problem. anyway i hope pac fight them and marquez! any of those fight as long as it could give us fans a fight we want to see. a fight that could make us clinch in our armchair and curl our toes. damn i miss those kind of fights. a good fight + ice cold beer=priceless! lets get ready to rumble!
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 03:31:32 PM
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jei:
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pacquaio should fight this guy. Then fight marquez in 2011.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 03:42:48 PM
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SNAPPER1:
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Glad to see that fighters like Berto and Bradley are being talked about since Princess Floyd isn't ready to dance. i want to see Pacman vs Money too but if it doesn't happen I'd like for Pacman to fight Marquez @ 135-140lbs.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 04:03:53 PM
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The Saint:
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I think the BWAA should write off Floyd Mayweather completely and shame his name. Mayweather will always have Teddy Atlas and the New York Daily News.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 04:15:52 PM
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#1 PacFan:
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I agree with the majority of fans that Bradley is not ready. Just fight Willaims who has proven to be a worthy opponent.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:08:43 PM
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Daniel:
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The name of Floyd should be striken off boxing news articles.
He's a shame to the boxing world!
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:08:57 PM
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mortcola:
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I like Cotto and I want to see him do well. I am a Pac fan. But for me, there is less than no purpose to this fight, at any weight. Cotto fought valiantly. But it was brutal, and no arguments about weight depletion add much. Bradley, Williams, Martinez, Alexander - all worthwhile if not ideal fights. Bradley is gifted, but vulnerable, with good footwork and handspeed, great heart and conditioning, but wide shots, less than ideal head movement, and a dentable chin. Makes for an intriguing match. My first choice. 154 is a stretch, but a stretch that puts Pac right in Armstrong territory where he belongs. I think he can do it. But not the smartest move.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:29:43 PM
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Steve the hater @ Motorola:
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I think Pacman can beat Bradley, so why not take the fight?
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 05:58:53 PM
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Fe'Roz OFFICIAL:
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I want to go on record after Floyd Sr' comments yesterday calling Manny Pacquiao is a 'midget' and a 'faggot'....comments that went unchecked by Floyd and his team.....that I am officially, out on the open, a Mayweather Hater. I do not care any longer about Little Floyd and his accomplishments. He is the boss of his camp.... and his camp is Trash. Their previous statements and accusations (ll of them) must all be taken for what they are; trash from trash. No credibility should be attached today or retroactively. This family is a blemish. As a boxing fan for a lifetime, I loved fighters. I have tolerated most of all their talk. Occasionally, I have had to acknowledge that the men I loved watching fight are poor human beings. When Iron Mike, on of my favorites, raped a woman I knew he was a disturbed individual but his crime was unacceptable. I still watched him fight in the ring...and still hope for his sake for personal redemption. He has acknowledged his need to seek it. Floyd Mayweather however is a not Mike Tyson; never was, never will be. He is a narcissistic ass who rarely performs publicly (fighting twice in the last three years) and has nothing good to say or offer elsewhere. Again, for the record, with or without Manny in the picture, I am officially done with the Mayweathers. I am not a religious man but must add that my only wish that God may have mercy on their foul souls.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 06:30:24 PM
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#1 PacFan:
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@Fe'roz, I read that interview too and found out disburbing. It's pure hate and jealousy on their part and it's burning them inside knowing the fact that Manny is considered the best in the world. I just can't understand how anyone can let these haters be interviewed knowing all they will do is talk trash.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 06:54:37 PM
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Fe'Roz @ #1 Pacfan:
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Frankly, I cannot think of any sport...or forum for that matter...where the press or public would not only tolerate it. Not one. This is beyond civil or 'all's fair in love and war'. This is unadulterated hate speech, pure and simple. "Midget" and" Faggot" are not words that are hip or hop. They are pure vile. The Mayweather Clan...all of them...need to look in the mirror. Imagine if Manny or Marquez....or anyone.... used a similar word to describe them in public. Or don't. It''s not even worth considering. Mayweather Productions exists because of one man, Floyd Mayweather Jr. He is responsible for his camp and the company that he keeps publicly. As it should be. I stand by my word. Without a firm press conference, statement and/or full disclaimer and reprimand of Floyd Sr, I am done with this family.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 09:03:33 PM
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Radam G:
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"Gazoo" Bradley is straight out of the Flintstones! A throwback to boneheadedness. THC PacMan would murda da bum. Holla!
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 09:46:17 PM
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Steve the hater@Paclander:
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Why you want Bradley vs Berto? and not vs Pacman? you know why? you fear for your fighter, chi..kn
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 09:53:03 PM
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#1 PacFan:
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Now you understand why The Saint feels the way he does towards the the Mayweathers. I don't believe TS means to say harsh words and some on here take it as racism. Come to think of it they deserve more hate than anyone.
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 10:05:27 PM
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ranie:
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bradley has 26 wins , pacman has 51 wins and 39 knockouts with far better oppositions than bradley ever had, he ainy ready for the pacman yet.....
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 11:02:56 PM
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Radam G - ain't blind to a paradox.:
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I'm puzzled by "Bradley or Mayweather for PacMan/" I think neither. Something ain't right in Denmark! And I must say that too many Ebonicans have a big bark, but lie like dogs. And gunt like hogs. Bradley need to sit his green Gazoo on Flintstones butt down. He should go back and learn something about pro fighting. Da chump is still too amateurish. Wow! Not too long ago a lot of chumps -- I'll not be too surprised if they had a case of the mumps -- were postin' smack about how THC PacMan "didn't (and wouldn't) fight black fighters. Well, he picked one of the blackest dudes on the planet earth and put a beatdown on him. Dude was so black, you couldn't see the purple and red bruises on his mugg and torso, if you were too far away. So that jive about who Manny wouldn't fight blacks was bunked. Now since THC PacMan shut down the blackest, he wants to knock out the baddest. But to no avail. Dat sucka Money May's (borrowed) yacht has gone out to sail. He doesn't want THC PacMan's punches droppin' on him like baseball-size, 120-mile-per-hour hail. Now Pops Joy May is calling THC PacMan a midget and faggot. It's all good, because now THC PacMan may just chop down the long, tall Paul like ebony wood. The Punisher Williams is all hype more than Lil' Floyd is frighten to fight. Williams's mind is fooling him into believing what all the talking heads and know nothings are saying. Money May's fright has crippled him and made him delusional. The Mayweather clan has never learn to handle fright. Fear! Yes! But fright, no way, Joe! Fear is like fire, you can use it to serve you. Fright is like ice. If you don't know how to use it to serve you, it will make you freeze up. Money May is totally frozen. If he were to tangle with Manny any time soon, THC PacMan would melt him and send him dripping away like running water dashing down a ditch. THC PacMan got your "midget and faggot," ___crazy dripping b*tch. Hahahahahahaha! Holla!
Wednesday Jul 21, 2010 11:46:33 PM
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blue4cor:
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Now I just realized that the millions of dollars you have can not provide you the courage you need.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 01:06:02 AM
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ali @ FeRoz:
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He can't control what his daddy say's.... He just speaks without thinking most of the time...He knows his dad will say some crazy stuff and has to live with it for the sake of there relationship...That's more important then the backlash he's going to get for it....Blood is thinker then water.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 03:32:49 AM
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ali @ #1pacfan:
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You should never defend anything The Saint has to say cause he's always being racist on TSS and you don't say anything about it. Now that one of the Mayweather say's somethen about your boy that was real harsh you want to over react to it. He didn't say anything racist about Pac he call his a sissy, a fagot and a midget...So many people get on TSS call Mayweather Gayweather a punk a coward a bitch and you don't have a problem with it....They call him every name in the book.... Yall Pac fans are somethen else.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 03:42:47 AM
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NEWV:
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Boxing FANS look stupid now because of PAC-FLOYD paranoia... get over it...
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 04:00:30 AM
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Smoke:
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My previous post is gone (wasn't controversial) Been reading this site since 2006 and anything to do with Pacquaio and Mayweather brings the ugly out big time, exposing some as major haters. I really would like to see Pacman take on Sergio Martinez. Seems like the only fighter within a reasonable weight, that would be the biggest challenge besides Floyd Jr. I personally believe that Sergio could beat both Floyd and Pacman. Berto or Bradley wouldn't stand a chance against Manny (few would)
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 04:53:23 AM
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ali @ smoke:
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Great post!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:08:57 AM
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ali @ real talk:
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Where u at I want to know your take on what Mayweather SR. said
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:14:22 AM
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#1 PacFan:
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@ali, you really going to defend that lame @ss May Sr. I can careless on what the spectators have to say but when it comes from the guys that get interviewed and get publicized it's a different story. What ever we say on here don't mean sht to the public. This is only a forum to speak our opinions. Reading a comment like that from a low life SOB is degrading to me and many Pilipinos. A midget can refer to a Pilipino because many of us are short. It's like me saying, "f*cj that big lip and a f@ggot.". I'm not defending The Saint I'm just saying he has reasons to say that sht.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:41:19 AM
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#1 PacFan:
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Not just one Mayweather the whole Klan has trashed talked Manny to the extent. I don't think these guys remember where they came from. Watch out b4 it's too late.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:46:57 AM
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ali @ #1pacfan:
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I never said it was right.....But for you to side with The Saint is sad but hey who am I to judge...Now He never said all Pilipinos and that's were I say you over reacted...He never said all Pilipinos are Midgets Faggots or sissy's...Well maybe Midget could be taking it to far if that's a sterotype Pilipinos find offensive but whats so crazy is Pac just laugh it off and wasn't tripping and he's the one Mayweather SR was talking about go figure.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:58:12 AM
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Anonymous user:
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Ali is right. The Saint has absolutely no justification to say things the way he does nor is there is any reason to defend him. He represents only himself. We must leave it to him to decide whether or not to leave the crap aside. Floyd Sr. on the other hand speaks for Floyd and the whole team.....until and unless they say otherwise; which they haven't. Sr. was the first to make outrageous and unfounded claims of PED use ...and not one Mayweather nor one of their camp refuted it. They speak in unison. This time they crossed my line. Nothing short of the boss, Little Floyd himself, disclaiming his father's comments is acceptable.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 07:06:25 AM
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jkc:
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For all the Idiots who hate Floyd, I promise you Arum, Roach, and the Pac-man, will get there wish. Come May-2011, Manny will get to say all the hello's he wants against Floyd in the ring and I will promise all the Pac Idiots who constantly insult Floyd by calling him Gayweather and Chickenweather, they will be eating there words because Manny is due for the beating of his life, there is no fighter in the world who can adjust to Mayweather style, because for every angle, Manny has Floyd will have any answer just ask Nazim Richardson, or any fighter mayweather has fought how great Floyd is, believe me this is not a racist thing and race color or ethnic,hatred i hope is left out of this debate TSS fans IT's about a match that will happen in the spring of 2011.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 07:18:11 AM
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arb:
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David said it best, NO COTTO. NO MARGARITO, bring in Bradley if Mayweather will not fight Pacquaio. NOBODY wants to see Cotto and Margarito Fight Pacaquaio except Bob Arum. Pacquaio knows that inactive Margarito is a walk in the park for him for his eight crown. Manny is intelligent enough to know that the true challenge for him right now is Bradley. It his moment to tell Bob that he wants Bradley. If he chose to settle for Margarito then there's no difference between him and Floyd. If he nods to Bob for a Margarito then his legacy is nothing but a media creation and fans like me will start calling him chicken packy or KFP kenducky fried packy. Bradley-pacquiao is the better money generator than Pacquaio-Margarito especially that everybody including the media doesn't want anything to do with the hands of stone.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 09:22:23 AM
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arb@JrfloydKenduckyChicken:
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Let him accept the Pacquaio challenge first to prove once and for all that what you wrote are all true. If he doesn't accept the challenge, he will always remain Kenducky Floyd Chicken and no way can Pac fans eat their words. jr floyd should stop ducking pacquaio just to hurt Arum because there's no chance that Bob will declare bankruptcy soon even if he ducks pacquaio 'till 2020 and beyond. Jrfloyd's name is already etched in the sports anal for 2012 as the best welterweight boxer who ducks 4 Xs the now retired boxer-Congressman Manny Pacquaio of the Philippines. Peace jrfloyd buddy
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 09:51:55 AM
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The Saint:
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@jkc: Great job on another "what Floyd WOULD do" rant! lol
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 02:07:10 PM
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The Saint:
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@ali: shouldn't you be facing east taking it in the rear somewhere? LOL
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 02:08:50 PM
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Radam G:
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For all the nutcases and name callers who are in self-denial and make-believe land, the Mayweathers are not racists, cowards or any sexual gender insults. They are just goofy, frighten and self-centered. And that rhetorical nonsense about "this is not a racist thing and race color or ethnic, (sic) hatred," get a darn clue. That is all what it is about for nutcases on both sides, with the African American being the worst with the silly thinking of race, ethnic, national superiority along with the fairy tale "height and reach advantage" will work. These suckas don't know boxing. Just like the nonsense about Money May being able to adjust to each boxers. BULL! These sit-on-their-butts-and-listen-to-talking-heads chumps don't know Jack, and could not find Jill on a mole hill. Money May has fought fighters who fade. He doesn't need to adjust to their styles, because they fade and quit or cannot do what was working. PacMan will not fade because he is kayoing Money May in less than three rounds. The Philly shell, aka the Philly crab, is easy to defeat. It is one of the oldest easy to solve styles in boxing. Talking heads have fooled the fakes and know nothings by renaming it the "Mayweather shoulder roll." And Money May and Pops Joy May are staying away from PacMan because they know what time it is. Come May 2011, the ducking and bullsh*ting will continue. Holla!
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 02:19:24 PM
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The Saint:
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I've lost it, i'm a complete moron, I wont be back
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:23:52 PM
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The Saint:
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the last time Deepwater called me out to spar with him, he gave me the time and place, would i show up, hell no!!!!LOL i got balls behind my computer.LOL
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 05:27:02 PM
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Radam G - lookin at da night skies, watchin' for ET, hahahaha!:
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Genie Naazim Richardson is an archmaster of kickin' da double sh*t outta da Philly shell -- nowaday media-nized as "da Mayweather should roll." The great and powerful genie Naazim is Philly to da maxy max. A dude straight out of Philly named James Rayford -- eight-time All Navy, two-time world military and the 1981 U.S. National champion -- introduced me to Naazim Richardson when I was like seven years old and boxing with Rayford's son Cricket. I'm talking about 30 plus years. Genie NR has solutions for a lot of moves in da game. He gave Sugar Shane the perfect battle plan to take down Money May, but the Sugarman faded. He was just surprised of how easy it was to go upside da Moneyman's noggin and psyched out when Money May got on the dragon moves -- blowing fire and rushing forward to survive and strive. There was no adjusting. Money May just crowded Sugar Shane from stepping to the right, jabbing to the chest and double right-hand sniping and shooting. Money May is counting his blessings and is not risking another chance to get himself kayoed. Early in his career, left-hander named Reggie Sanders cut him up. Left-hander DeMarcus Corley put the hurt on him. Left-hander Zab Judah knocked him down and didn't get credit for it. Money May is not stuck on stupid. The lefties above all faded, and that is what saved Money May's arse. Not any adjusting to their styles jive. And even if this were the case, THC PacMan is faster, hit harder than 'em all and don't have head problems, as everyone of them did. Money May used psy-ops -- which won't work on an Asian -- to whup those arses. Asians from Asia do not have the hangs up and mind problems of Westerners. What gets in an AmeriKano's or Europeano's head won't pass the giggle test with an Asian -- particularly a Pinoy! We are a different breed. We don't even signal to come here with our hands like westerners. Bottomline, trying to get into our heads is like trying to dry a rain forrest with a hand-held paper fan and run out all the animals with a cap gun and kill all the plants with your bad breath. A lot of the myths about our determination and power are no myths at all. Riding off the words of Money May, if you haven't ever been around us, don't try to judge us. We don't need PEDs, Steroids or A-side Meth to whup arses, we been doing it forever. You just don't know that, because you are across the pond being hyped up and jingoisticized on some type of make-believe superiority and big-body-tall-man trip. "When America sneezes, the world catch a cold." Only in the thinking of people who have been sadly and senselessly mudholed and fishbowled and hearing that sh*t on television. And the typical American is wonders why all his/her jobs have been outsourced outside the mainland to other countries. Barely anything is made in America now, including good boxers. You are losing your edge with silly stereotypes and a big head. Somebody ought to get with reality and actuality. American mythology and jive-ology is fading to black. The storms of da Manny and da doctor/brother Klits are tearing __ _____ ______! Holla!
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 06:10:30 PM
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Radam G:
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*nowadays...
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 06:12:10 PM
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Radam G:
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*...typical American wonders why all...
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 06:17:46 PM
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The Saint:
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@ali: good one. keep facing east! lol
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 06:51:43 PM
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ALEXANDER THE GREAT:
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"A GREAT FIGHTER must fight who wants to FIGHT HIM and can prove that HE is and really is THE GREATEST FIGHTER in HIS PRIME TIME... A GREAT FIGHTER doesnt mean HE NEVER DEFEATED but THE GREATEST FIGHTER means HE PURSUE TO FIGHT those who claims they are the GREATEST FIGHTER and NOT HE CLAIM HE IS..."
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 07:09:39 PM
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Frank Z @ Radam:
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i need you to explain something to me for real though, because you keep saying the philly shell is easy to defeat, but the fact that so many high level boxers have used it means it's useful against most offenses. pac can shoot punches and step around but then he'd be behind his opponent and not allowed to punch them in the back of the head. he can catch mayweather the way shane did to almost put him down but that was when floyd opened up with a hook and raised his chin andn shane timed it over the top. the first hard shot was set up by a body jab and floyd did not roll his shoulder in time, but being a southpaw manny would have a harder time doing the same move. i'm trying to visualize your consistent prediction with manny KOing mayweather in 3 or less, but's a difficult thing to visualize not because of the philly shell but because mayweather moves his feet and upperbody much better than anyone pacman has faced.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 07:55:16 PM
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The Saint:
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all Mayweather fans can face the east, they are all the same! lol
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 08:16:36 PM
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The Saint:
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where deepwater? I sure put him in his place! lol
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 08:18:01 PM
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The Saint:
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Here we go. We are officially in Mayweather's Mindless Minions territory. They got their wish, the fight won't happen and they can dust off their "floyd woulds." LOL
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 08:18:04 PM
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Frank Z @ Saint:
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see this is where double standards come in again. did'nt you accuse floyd for trying to get an excuse to get out of the fight when he asked for blood testing, but if bob arum imposes a false deadline with terms that we don't even know what they are and the other side doesn't answer then that's not an excuse to get out the fight like the other side did last january?
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 08:54:37 PM
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The Saint:
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@Frank Z: Nope. Bob Arum did not grand stand after the "deadline" and was even sympathetic towards Mayweather. Imposing a deadline on negotiations is not an excuse. Denying there ever were negotiations is.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 09:27:32 PM
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joey@ Radam g:
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in your wild mind who could pacquiao loose against? the guy has lost four times you pretend like he is invinsible. Money May out in two rounds, cotto rematch hewill get ko by four rounds, tim breadley out by two rounds, your freaking nuts, he is not invinsible idiot, onces he step in the ring he could loose, morales beat him 2k battery beat him, Marquez beat him. he is not invinsible. he has more loses than cotto, mayweather and bradley togheter.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 09:31:53 PM
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Anony:
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Everything is good for Bradley but I guess he is not ready for a big fight like that. Even Cotto can spank him hard because he doesn't have the experience or has never go into deep waters in a fight. And I'm not taking credit off from Bradley but he needs to fight someone like Berto first to get really tested. Nevertheless, the fight against Abregú was an entertaining one. Shawn Porter looked great as well as he is an exciting fighter!!!!! And Judah.... well Judah seems to understand he needs to start putting up a show instead of crashing his own show. Great victory for him!!!!!
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 09:45:20 PM
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Anony @ Joey:
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You are right, even Pacman has more losses than Bradley, Cotto or other welterweights BUT THAT WAS BEFORE ARIZA'S JUICE!!! Funny, I spent the weekend talking to people who knows a lot of boxing and they all agree Pacman is suspicious... 7 different weight classes and the power to rock full grown welterweights... hummmmm.... one day everything will be known... until then, let the Pacman hyper-fans dream they really have a super human boxer....
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 09:49:53 PM
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come on now! give bradley a break. everyone started from being underdog and nobody until they beat the man. i say let pac take on martinez, bradley, berto, and margquez. i dont want a repeat cotto fight. i want a fresh a new fighter.
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 10:24:18 PM
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The Clone:
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I would love to see cotto vs pacman 2. BUT AT 154. No catchweight. Lets see how pacquiao does against a true 154 pounder. I hate when boxers have to drain them self just to make a catchweight. PACQUIAO VS COTTO 2. AT 154. The Clone.Im out!!
Thursday Jul 22, 2010 10:32:45 PM
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RICO MAMBO:
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Bradley & Mayweather fight will be the best fight for PACMAN but SAD to say, it'll never materialize. cut my head, hahaha...The Bobfather will never share the last 2 fights of PACMAN w/ any other boxing promoter on a much higher risk of loosing. Like what they usually say, BOXING is a Business and in business, naturally money is the main thing. Unlike the early gladiators who usually fight for pride. The Bobfather will do all his might not to let the Pac-Mayweather fight to happen. He's very affluential that all the necks in Nevada is beyond his grasp. He will tap Margarito to drop a fight to Pacquiao for a cool million dollars. How would tony say "NO" to it. Then a rematch with Cotto which may be the last fight for Pacquiao and I think he will let Pacquiao loose this time and give the glory to Miguel whom he will groom to be the next pound for pound.....
Friday Jul 23, 2010 12:00:51 AM
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@Frank Z, from listening to Floyd Sr. he sounds like a man who is afraid to put his son in their with Pacquiao. Read the last part of his interview when they asked him who he thought Jr. would fight next. He mentioned Sergio Martinez but quickly shifted when he said he was a SOUTHPAW. He don't want to see his son face a SOUTHPAW. Manny is a SOUTHPAW, Jr. fought Judah and he had problems with him in the first half of the fight. Manny is faster than Judah and is more skillful. I won't be surprised if Radam's prediction comes true but I see more of see saw fight with Mayweather. Also Mayweather no longer has footwork he relies more now with his shoulder roll to avoid punches. He gets himself caught on the ropes and Manny will land his flurries I'll gurrantee you that. DLH, Hatton, and Mosley had him on the ropes but they didn't have the right punches. Them guys threw 1-2s or Oscar with his 8 punch rib shots. Manny will land something if he lets himself get against those ropes.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 12:14:46 AM
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@Mambo Jumbo, who have it all twisted, wasn't Arum the only one trying to negotiate the fight? You rookies don't know jack of what's going on.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 12:17:35 AM
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Frank Z@ #1 pacfan:
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manny's definitely more of a threat than all those other guys you named, but the reason i still see mayweather beating him is because mayweather can beat him in 2 ranges, from long distance and up close. at the middle distance if they are trading shots manny is almost impossible to beat, but if mayweather elects to jab and step off the line and make manny follow him, it'll be a tough night for manny because he does not seem to know how to cut off the ring. on the inside, mannyh still hasn't learned to turn his shouulder into 6 inch punches and generate force over small distances like a joe louis, which flloyd is better at doing and so was clottey. the advantage someone like floyud would have over his last 5 opponents is that he won't go in there looking to just overpower manny. everybody he's met since marquez has underestimated manny's strength and power. as for floyd sr., i am not sure what to make of what he says, but i do believe the concern over his son fighting a southpaw is real. he's gotten hit the most cleanly fighting southpaws with the exception of mosley. also i don't really agree that he's lost his legs. he definitely is slower than when he was at 135-140, but he is still much slicker than any opponenta pacquiao has yet to face, and his upperbody speed has not really receded. cotto made pacquiao get wild at times with his movement, and even with a slower footed mayweather he's still several times quicker than cotto with far superior timing. that's my reasons for thinking mayweather will beat manny in a back and forth fight.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 02:23:01 AM
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The BEST THING TO DO for theTEAM PACQUIAO for meantime is extend Manny's availability to fight Mayweather in the next 3 months. Say in 3 months he is not fighting anyone would give Floyd an ample time to think, figure out his chances of winning and I believe Floyd will come up with the decission to fight Manny. Three months can further reconfirm Floyd's camp seriousness to fight Manny. A fight with Margarito will be Pac's first box office flop. Margarito hasn't fought for a long time makes it a less appealing fight. A rematch with Cotto probably should happen from one more impressive win from a marquee name opponent.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 02:39:07 AM
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Fe'Roz:
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It's bad enough that we have to tolerate Floyd Sr. and his fool's comments. Let's try to keep the name calling and BS between us here at TSS to a minimum. No one's comments and/or arguments are strengthened by it. In fact, the opposite is true. You weaken your credibility. We have a great thing going here. Let's not drag it into the gutter.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 03:20:49 AM
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The Saint:
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it's my prerogative! lol. Face to the east. lol
Friday Jul 23, 2010 03:33:28 AM
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ali @ FeRoz:
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I feel u but for some reason TSS keeps leting some people say some of the craziest things...Face to the east and take it from behind...But whatever im he to talk boxing the hell with all that sissy sh*t.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 03:54:48 AM
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Frank Z @ Saint:
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how are they different? one or both of them is lying. arum being sympathetic means nothing to me, because he's a straight business man. you think he actually showed sympathy because he cares about what's going on in other people's lives? he just wants to keep this big payday open and in the meantime match manny within his stable because manny may only have 2 more fights in him before he goes political fulltime.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 03:59:44 AM
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Isaiah:
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Who the heck does Floyd Sr. think she is? (Not a typo:) Little cowardly punk that got messed up by Sugar Ray Leonard and Oscar De La Hoya if I remember right? At least you Mayweather fans are consistent. Not one word of outrage with punk Floyd Sr calling the Pacman a midget or a f@gg#t, but lo and behold, if Bob Arum tries to get this fight made some time this year because the fans have waited long enough, you jokes exalt queen Mayweather Jr. to her royal position where Floydina can never be questioned or touched. Pathetic. How many excuses do you all have? Do you ever run out, get some self respect and call a spade a spade, or do you scrape another excuse out from the bottom of the barrell to continue in your delusion? I'm just wanting to know. Floyd DUCKED PRIME Antonio Margarito, Miguel Cotto, PRIME Shane Mosley, the 140 pound version of Ricky Hatton that might have stood a chance, Kotsya Tszyu, Andre Berto, Paul Williams and Manny Pacquiao, with Cotto and the Pacman being ducked twice and still going strong! PATHETIC! I'm not saying Bob Arum and Oscar De La Hoya, (Whoops! Almost forgot! Ducked Oscar rematch to! lol!) have never lied, but they don't lie and screw themselves out of dipping their hands in this giant money pot! Which of you all actually believe Floyd Mayweather Jr. or NONE of his team heard nothing about the Bob Arum deadline?!! Are you kidding me?! None of them heard anything on ESPN, HBO, THE MEDIA, OR ANYONE OUT IN PUBLIC ABOUT THIS?! BULL!!! What's wrong with you Floyd fans?! This year, I've already heard, "well just you wait, Floyd will beat Manny down March 13th, err... I mean, November, err... I mean.... May 2011." You ALL are freakin insane! AW, POOR FLOYD! IF HE FOUGHT IN NOVEMBER, THAT'D ONLY GIVE POOR FLOYD A 6 MONTH REST PERIOD INBETWEEN FIGHTS PLUS TRAINING. I COULD HAVE SWORN MANNY PACQUIAO FOUGHT TWICE WITHIN 4 MONTHS AND THAT WAS COMING OFF THE COTTO FIGHT WITH A BUSTED EARDRUM! AW, FLOYD IS TRYING TO HYPE UP THE FIGHT MORE..... REALLY? HOW F'N GREEDY IS THIS SOB?!! HOW MUCH MORE DOES THIS FIGHT NEED TO BE HYPED UP?! IT'S CALLED, YOUR GUY IS A COWARD!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 04:28:54 AM
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Fe'Roz @ the Saint:
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Seriously Saint. Prerogative or not, you lose total credibility here when you talk that shit. There are plenty of places for trash comments. Maybe you should consider facing toward East--SideBoxing.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 04:49:01 AM
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El Maromero:
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I guess that they need to start approving comments cause some of us are acting like we are on youtube. Im pretty sure that by know The Saint should know that this is a decent site, I guess that dude ate some fried fish from the Gulf of Mexico and the oil flowed up to his brain and loosened up his mental problems
Friday Jul 23, 2010 07:10:33 AM
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Smoke:
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@ Fe'Roz...LOL, or perhaps the site that draws all of the mean-spirited, third reich types: fighthype. Get thee to fighthype Saint, you are excommunicated...hohoho
Friday Jul 23, 2010 07:26:12 AM
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Isaiah:
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I looked over my list of Mayweather ducked opponents and can't believe I forgot this name. Sergio Martinez. Nuff said. Floyd Mayweather could fight at 154 a lot easier than Manny Pacquiao could. Manny should stay at 147 and take care of business with Andre Berto. Floyd should go up to 154 and fight Martinez, but that will never happen because Fraud Duckweather will NEVER face a PRIME challenge again since 2002. Don't leave boxing yet Pacman, the sport could still use you around a few more fights. It isn't your fault Floyd is a coward and disgrace.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 08:09:05 AM
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Smoke:
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Yeah, Floyd or Manny vs Sergio would be a landmark fight to be sure. IMO I think Sergio could takem both.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 08:11:46 AM
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Isaiah:
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By the way, what's with the hate on the Saint? I swear, someone gets all politically correct and super sensitive, screams racism and we get a bunch of band wagon riders to attack a site regular. As a "wannabe" Christian, (the only REAL Christian was LITTLERALLY crucified for his message), I'm offended everyday in CORRUPT BABYLON, I mean America and not a damn thing is ever done about it, so cry me a river, super sensitive. I don't know about the posters posting international, but "political correctness" has ruined America and has spread like a disease in such favored areas such as this website. Come on now! Are we men or mice?! Stop trying to be "popular" people and just be as right as you can. There is NO glory in ganging up on someone. It's ALMOST as shameful as being a Mayweather fan. LOL!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 08:18:49 AM
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brownsugar:
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I see Floyd Sr as an extremely sick and bitter individual... his comments certainly won't help with any future good faith negotiations with Pac's team...but on the other hand ....the crass and barbaric statements he made against Pacman are no different than the dozens of foolish, racist and ignorant comments made against his son daily on this site alone...they are made by the same folks who want to categorize you as a floydfan,..pactard,.. or whatever... personally I thought we were all just boxing fans....I like both boxers,.. just feel that Mayweather is the better boxer...while Pac is the better fighter...but favoring one fighter doesn't mean that I have to hate or belittle the other... there's enough fools doing that already... Floyd Sr is in the final stages of some kind of lung disease... if you've heard his last few podcasts he sounds increasingly unfocused and disoriented on every interview... and he really struggles to get the words out..he could be on all kinds of medication... I'm not saying that it justifies his crazy rants... It just shows you that when you kick a full bucket,..what's on the inside will overflow...and it's easy to see what Floyd Sr is filled with...... I'm not outraged by what Floyd Sr said... But I'm filled with pity and remorse for a man who is consumed with so much bitterness and hate that he's become blinded,.. kind of reminds me of Joe Frazier,.. who is still marred by the animosity he feels for Ali... even to the point of patting himself on the back because he believes that he's the one responsible for Ali's deteriorating condition... now that's some real bitterness for you...Boxers don't come from Ivy League colleges or the school of political correctness,.. so it doesn't surprise me when some go back to prison,.. or fall to the wayside..... I still really enjoy reading the posts of the True Boxing Fans,...you make a lot of good contributors to this site.... but you haters... I don't even read or respond to you posts anymore...don't have the desire to engage in unproductive activities...
Friday Jul 23, 2010 08:38:19 AM
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Isaiah:
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I did not know that Floyd Sr. is so bad off. I truly wish him all the best. May he be healed of this disease, but whenever his time is, may the process even up to the very end be as painless as possible. I truly wish no bad on the man. That being said, staring his own mortality in the face, it is time the man put aside this hate inside him or at least as best as he can at this point considering his condition. Everyday is a gift. I to obviously struggle with a rage inside me. Somedays are better than others. Anyone who says they don't struggle with it at some point is a liar. If there is one thing him and I have in common, it's we grow tired of the political correct BS that the "holier than thou" people use and I'm not even talking about the people who are stereotyped like that, I'm talking about the Liberal jerkoffs who think they don't stink and all Republican/Conservative/Right wingers never have a good point or intelligent response, when in reality, it's quite the opposite. I'm getting ahead of myself though. I may not agree with what the Mayweathers say, but I FULLY support their free speach to say it. YOU GOT THAT OBAMA!!! YOU HYPOCRITE!!! DID YOU ALL KNOW OBAMA HAS NOW PASSED A BILL TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE "ALLEGED" TERRORISTS EVEN FAR AWAY FROM BATTLEGROUNDS WITHOUT A DUE PROCESS?! YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT! NO FAIR TRIAL. NO NOTHING! PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP AND IMPEACH THIS EVIL PRICK!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 09:00:11 AM
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Rico Mambo:
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...For sure it's Margarito on the line. Then they'll give him a cool 3 million dollars ... not to punch too much....hahaha...with Manny getting more than 15 million....what a business!!!...Then a rematch with Cotto....for the 8 world title crown...Imagine Cotto winnin' against Foreman who knocked down Daniel Santos one of those who beat Margarito who humiliated Cotto. you Pacfan don't know anything about the business....BOXING is BUSINESS as usual....the fighters don't know it themselves too.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 12:09:26 PM
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Rico Mambo:
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......A catch weight at 143 for TONY will do the trick.....hahaha...
Friday Jul 23, 2010 12:16:45 PM
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ali @ Isaiah:
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You didn't make one good point with all of your post and to top it off your defending the sh*t that The Saint say's wow!!!!!!!!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 01:03:26 PM
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ali @ Frank Z:
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How are they different? one or both of them is lying. arum being sympathetic means nothing to me, because he's a straight business man. you think he actually showed sympathy because he cares about what's going on in other people's lives? he just wants to keep this big payday open and in the meantime match manny within his stable because manny may only have 2 more fights in him before he goes political fulltime. YOUR COMMENTS WAS SO GO I HAD TO POST IT TWICE THE BEST POINT I'VE HEARD ANYONE MAKE ABOUT BOB ARUM .
Friday Jul 23, 2010 01:07:19 PM
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The Saint:
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@Frank Z: Not sure what "s**t" you're referring to, but if you haven't noticed, there are some clones in here. At least a couple of comments on here under saint were not mine, but whatever. Anyway, you're REALLY stretching it if you believe that making an OFFER and NEGOTIATING a megafight is the equivalent of DUCKING. What's wrong with having a deadline? Is Pacquiao supposed to wait ten years to get a response from Fraud? Two weeks? Tell me, what should Arum have done? Just left the offer out there with no deadline whatsoever? Right.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 01:21:59 PM
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EM@Isaiah:
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I, please don't try and push buttons like that. That language and bias isn't welcomed here. Thanks
Friday Jul 23, 2010 01:45:13 PM
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Smiley C:
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Isaiah is going to keep pushing all the buttons. He is in a marytr's mold and want to join his favorite guy kountedout. Some how that guys needs to see the light. He is making any and all attempts that he can to bring this site down. Look how that dude is even going off on the President. Pretty soon Isaiah's rants and raves will be threats, then the Secret Services will give him his wish of being imprisoned as a martyr for his dumb cause. Fo' sure!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 02:09:24 PM
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Frank Z@ Saint:
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how's that a stretch to wonder what exactly was in the terms? all we heard about was top rank's team talking about how manny agreed to terms but nothing from floyd. for all we know top rank made up their own contract and just e-mailed it to mayweather's side. i dont' think that's what happened but bob arum making this offer may not be any different than team mayweather making an offer with testing right up to the day of the fight and imposing the same deadline. if they did that you'd be screaming from the high hills about how mayweather is tryign to duck pacquiao by imposing stuff that he knows pacquiao won't agree to. since we don't know what exactly these terms are that bob arum drafted, how do we know they're not the same thing?
Friday Jul 23, 2010 03:09:02 PM
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The Saint:
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I didn't say it was a stretch to wonder about the terms, I said it was a stretch to consider going into negotiations as an act of ducking. We heard more than Top Rank's press releases. De la Hoya was in on the whole thing to (of course he would later "clarify" that he was misquoted, this coming from a guy who once said that Pacquiao doesn't hit hard and later said he hit like Mosley and Vargas, so go figure). Team Mayweather's excuse is laaaaame. It falls right into "the dog ate my homework" territory. The issue here is that the reputable, honorable Team Mayweather flatly denies any negotiations taking place whatsoever. I have no doubt they also deny that the Holocaust ever happened.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 03:22:24 PM
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Frank Z@ Saint:
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so because they gave a lame excuse they're ducking? ah i see. man, i bet the next thing they'll come out with is that they're afraid of needles, or that they're superstitious....
Friday Jul 23, 2010 04:06:50 PM
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Radam G -- doing da unusual & halfway responding 2 a odd ?:
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Frank Z, I find a lot of your posts and questions a little odd and strange. As for that fake Joey, please inform that regular reader using that pseudonym that as I have been telling him for going on three years, it is one "o" in lose, which is totally different from "loose," which have nothing to do with defeat. This basket case -- difinitely not to bright -- doesn't get it. It is very easy to know exactly who he is by his bad syntax and vibes of hatred of THC PacMan. Why doesn't that sucka just get off my back and keep the peace. He is free to believe anything, but don't be a coward about it. See, I can have mad respect for you Frank Z because you are no coward hiding behind umpteen pseudonyms about what you apparent believe and post. Anyway, As the GOAT Muhammad Ali has told me. It's take special fighter to do special things and get away with it. "Jack Johnson was special and I'm special. Jack and I have a special gift. No fighter will get away with our styles because we're also gifted." Okay, Frank Z, that is a reconstruction of the jist of our conversation. Read my following post. Holla!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 05:43:04 PM
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Radam G @ Frank Z:
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Another one of the oldest styles of fighting was the pulling-his-head-straight-back action of Irish GOAT Muhammad Ali and Jack Johnson. They prefected the used of it for them. And they fought the right types of opponents to be highly successful with it. Copycats of Ole Jack and the GOAT got that arse beat when they tried. In the amateurs, Tony Tubbs, Terry Silvers and Howard Davis Jr were successful with it, but in the pros that got seriously beatdown and beat-up trying this way of fighting. Even Pinklon Thomas was fairly successful in the pros fighting against the right types of opponents. So with the pulling-your-head-straight-back style, there are only two all-time greats, Ole Jackie and Irish GOAT Ali. Okay, first, not more than a hand full of amateurs and professional pugilist has been super successful using that media-called "Mayweather shoulder roll" jive. Name most than three pure Philly-shell/crab style P4P champions of all times or even now times? You cannot! Because only Money May and Jame "Lights out" Toney exist. The "shoulder roll" style fighters have been gettin' that arse tapped out forever -- pros and amateurs. Money May and Lights out Toney are special and gifted to the max. The shoulder roll is one of the oldest -- as I keep saying -- styles in boxing, but easiest to destroy, to beatdown. It success depends on timing and fighting slow-arse one punchers who move in and out of the front and back doors. Side-to-side and multi punching murder it every single time. Especially southpaws. Holla!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 06:05:52 PM
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The Saint:
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@Frank Z: Because of the lame excuse, because of the apparent lack of interest, because of the failed negotiations the first time around due to unprecedented demands for olympic blood testing that threw a wrench into the whole process, absolutely, Mayweather is ducking. What Mayweather is doing and the cowardice he is demonstrating is absolutely unheard of. Mayweather is a professional athlete, he has a responsibility to the fans who made him rich. Boxing is a darn game, nothing more, a game he gets to play for insane amounts of cash. Go play it. Coward.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 06:06:48 PM
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Radam G:
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*Name more than...
Friday Jul 23, 2010 06:53:27 PM
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Radam G:
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*Especially by southpaws....
Friday Jul 23, 2010 06:55:05 PM
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Radam G:
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One last thing. Money May is in Puerto Rica and getting on his cockfighting. I'm looking at a news video clip of him over here in the Philippines. He looks like he is having fun, but is getting roasted up in the sun. [By the way, where is the Roast? He has posted in a minute.] He's getting on his tan. Wow! Now that I think of it. Money May doesn't fight Pinoy and Puerto Rican pugilists. Whaddup wif dat! C'mon Moneyman. Just think of green and your bank account. Maybe that would help your bad nerves. Just kidding, people. Don't none of you _____ _____ get started. Holla!
Friday Jul 23, 2010 07:04:40 PM
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The Saint:
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BREAKING NEWS: CJ James was rushed to the hospital with a rubber chicken stuck up his @$$.
Friday Jul 23, 2010 08:49:00 PM
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RED:
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Yahoo sports is announcing that Margarito will fight Manny. It will be an entertaining beating. Frankly, I want Margarito to fight with plaster of every type inside and outside his gloves. That way when he's brutally crushed there'll be no question about the fact that he's a shot fighter. Gracias Shane Mosley.
Saturday Jul 24, 2010 01:04:17 AM
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ali @ Radam G:
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One thing I think your missing is he doesn't always use the shoulder roll as part of his defense he use he feet and mind. Toney never uses his feet so it's a little different also Toney is not always in the best of shape like Mayweather is. Also just because you use the shoulder roll don't mean you should you have to have a certian skill level and have had to be train over a long period of time by someone that can teach it the right way. One thing you are right about is it really don't work against southpaws but Mayweather won't need to use it that much against Pac to beat him he's a way smarter fight.
Saturday Jul 24, 2010 03:51:51 AM
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Frank Z @ Radam :
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good info, thanks for the knowledge. to be fair though, i also think it's strange when you start talking about pac being the greatest pure boxer of all time and how pinoys are so much better than those of us raised to be decadent in the west lol. i agree if mayweather tries to stand in the middle of the ring and shoulderoll pac's punches he'll get punished, but i just dont' see him doing that, because he hasn'tn done it since n'dou, and he hasn't laid on the ropes since oscar. i think he likes to do just enough to win and woul dhave no problem making the fight boring. this would mean circling in the ring and making pac have to follow him, or tie him up every chance he gets so pac can't unload full combos all night long like he did on clottey. mayweather against southpaws he's generally been either more aggressive in retaliating or he's kept a tight guard with both hands by his eyes.
Saturday Jul 24, 2010 05:05:54 AM
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Radam G - part II:
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*you were constantly on my back...
Saturday Jul 24, 2010 06:25:40 PM
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Frank Z @ Radam:
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yeah uh.... while i'm sifting through the verbiage, you said in an earlier post "we are a different breed" when talking about filipinos, and i was making a joke on it. chill out.
Saturday Jul 24, 2010 10:23:10 PM
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Frank Z @ Radam:
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the history and fact spitting is appreciated, but don't get into stuff about how we're chest thumping westerners who feel the need to be superior to asians, which is funny because like i already said before, i look a lot more like manny pacquiao than i do floyd mayweather. give me a week by the beach outside all day and i'll start looking dark as those indigenous groups you told ali to look up. if you look back at what i said during the debates with pacquiao agianst his earlier opponents (hatton, cotto), i said more than once that we should not underestimate pacquiao's size and strength and that people think of him as small in large part because he's asian. the most negative things i've said about pacquiao are that he would lose a close fight to floyd, which a lot of boxing people can agree with, and that he, like floyd, cares about money and status. now, you can argue with me on the first part, or even both, but tell me hwo that makes me an arrogant westerner? even manny steward agreed that floyd can contol and defeat pacquiao, the manny steward you cited once to prove that pacquiao is an all time great. also, i definitely remember seeing you make the comment that floyd mayweather jr is the 2nd greatest pure boxer of all time behind pacman, when discussing sugar ray robinson, but either way maybe you weren't serious do you don't remember. or i COULD have been dreaming it who knows. now onto boxing, i'll definitely read up more on jack johnson and how he learned to fight in his unique way, but from what i saw in "unforgivable blackness" he learned a lot of his craft in battle royales and then from being locked up with joe choyinski for staging an illegal prizefight. as cellmates choyinski taught johnson a lot of the finer aspects like feinting jabbing and tying his opponent up. i don't think johnson got all his knowledge just from those 23 days as a cellmate, so i'll look up what you said about how he learned from filipino fishermen, but,and i'm sure you know this, boxing has been influenced by a lot of cultures, martial arts and traditions, filipino is just one of many. any ethnic group that gets into boxing will leave their cultural marks on it, and blacks have been in the prizefighting game for centuries so they too have brought their indigenous fighting traditions mixed with american culture in it. for example, slavemasters used to pit their black slaves against each other in fights with gambling on the side, and during the 1930s-40s with the Black Murderer's Row i'm sure that a lot of the influence on boxing was from black americans. same with mexicans or italians or irish. the reason i said before that neither of us known the origin of the bolo punch is because any move in any fighting art could have been done at anytime without giving it a definite name. although you're right garcia is credited with it, either him or flores. lastly, do you have any instructional videos on youtube with boxing or filipino fightingn styles? i would like to see those if you do.
Saturday Jul 24, 2010 11:04:36 PM
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lovely:
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So u want a Bradley vs Pacquiao fight
Im not against it. Pacquiao is moving up in weight from 147 to 154. If Bradley can take a 2 or 3 steps/division higher then thats one thing. Other thing is that Bradley must have a title first before fighting Pacquiao.
Pacquiao a 7th word titlist in different weight division seems to be moving up in a higher division rapidly. It seems that he wants to collect more title from different division and make it hard for others reach 7th or 8th world title in different weight division. And possibly 9 by 2011.
So the best thing for Bradley to do is to know the next move of Pacquiao and Bradley must be there before Pacquiao arrive. What does this mean?
1. It means Pacquiao after fighting Margarito will move up in weight for another world title. And its going to be in the 160lbs. Most likely Martinez the former opponent of Margarito. Of course like i said Pacquiao match now a days is most likely for the world title if not for the poundf for pound supremacy against Mayweather.
2. So for Bradley to have a fight against Pacquiao he should challenge and start negotiating with Martinez now or any other top opponents in 160lbs. now before the year ends. If he beat Martinez thats the only time that Pacquiao will be force to fight him.
Impossible as it seems it think thats the best thing to do for Bradley in order to fight Pacquiao, move 3 weight division higher now. If he cant do that, then he will be left behind by Pacquiao. And he is out of reason by that time to challenge 160lbs. Pacquiao. He cannot also demand for a catch up weight to fight the 160lbs Pacquiao by that time. Instead the fans will suspect Bradley that his only fighting for a huge some of money not for a worthy match and fans satisfaction.
Sunday Jul 25, 2010 01:23:24 AM
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ali @ TSS:
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Why do Yall keep removing my post damn!!!!can I speak my mind what the hell is going on
Sunday Jul 25, 2010 05:50:29 PM
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Radam G - just sayin' and playin':
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Wow! This is funny! Did I just land in comicview or some jive turkey bull! By the bootstraps, UP my arse, I always bull! My man, my man, somebody is ______ fibbin' 'bout gettin'a Money May-colored tan. WhatEVER! Dat sucka must be in the land of COMING-close-to-a-clue NEVER! Ali's witta' [sic] bitty feelings are hurt to da max. Maybe he didn't pay his tax. Wow, just like Money May! That's too bad. Kinda sad! Go ahead and say what you are thinking, Ali!..."cause (you)____ ___." That's all right, Jack! Ya ain't no spittin' saint, 2 b frank! Dribble da spitball 2 da paint! Suck it up, brotha! Suck it up! Take dat shot! Fire and heat is hot! All my sh*t was whoopa whopped too, you don't see me asking why. Don't cry! Don't cry! It's Pinoy Power! It's THC PacMan TIme! Not a penny or a nickle, but a straight-up DIME! Life ain't fair even in pugilistic cyberspace. But keep a peaceful pace. It's all 'bout da powah! Git uh clue. Da sky is blue, nobodeee luvs ya. "You'll never stick like magic glue. Still groovin!' Still movin!' Til' it time to hop up in that casket and take a dirt nap. Til' then, sometimes live is 'bout da rap, Other times, it is 'bout puttin' up wif da crap. See ya!' I wouldn't wanna be ya!' Holla! Holla! Get dat dolla, dolla! Get on ya' jive for a five! Don't buy an ink pen for a ten! Get it cheap! And write neat! Don't said, "If you cannot stand the heat, get something to eat! Or was that drink or Kitchen? My big toe is itchen [sic]. Holla!
Sunday Jul 25, 2010 09:41:09 PM
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ali @ Radam G:
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I don't take no negitive post said about me serious on TSS so there is no way my feeling can get hurt.....Actually I laughed at alot of the stuff you said about me....Now im going to move on and leave you alone until I feel it a need to speak on somethen you post. ONE!!!!
Monday Jul 26, 2010 12:25:12 AM
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karlo jay cobias:
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i would see pavquiao capturing 10 division wold titles, to beat ward.., thats a good idea to make that fight happen next year, pac should unify and get all the belts in 154lb then he would go up in 160,166 lbs ,or ether he would face david haye ang klisckho brothers...
Thursday Jul 29, 2010 08:51:57 AM
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The Lone Star State Beckons Boxing Back
9/3/10, Dallas, Texas --- "WELCOME TO TEXAS" --- Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (ctr) welcomes superstar Manny Pacquiao (L) and three-time world champion Antonio Margarito (R) to Cowboy Stadium at the press conference Friday for their upcoming mega fight on November 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington,Texas. Pacquiao vs Margarito is promoted by Top Rank in association with MP Promotions and Cowboys Stadium. This telecast will be available live on HBO Pay Per View.
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