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Sunday Mar 7, 2010


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SUNDAY SPECIAL: Freddie Roach's Underrated Strength As A Trainer

By Frank Lotierzo



Last week the Pacquiao and Clottey camps held a press call for the boxing media. One of the things that came out during the Clottey call is that he'll be without the services of his first trainer for this fight, Godwin Kotey. Kotey was denied a US visa, and instead Lenny DeJesus will work his corner the night he fights Manny Pacquiao.


The following day team Pacquiao held their conference call. During the call Freddie Roach was asked if he thought Clottey would be drastically effected by him not having Kotey in his corner during the fight. Roach basically said that it might play at small part, but it wouldn't matter as to the outcome. Freddie continued on and said that it doesn't matter who works Clottey's corner, and that he had the greater fighter and that is what determines the outcome of the fight, not the trainers. This is a sentiment I totally concur with.


When Roach was asked about Pacquiao's weight, he said Manny would weigh-in at "147 and come into the ring about 149/150." He went onto say, "size doesn't win fights, skills do." Roach likes to come off as the "aw shucks" type of guy and act as if he doesn't deserve any credit for Pacquiao evolving into the great fighter that he's become. But he must get at least 5% of the credit for it. As it's been stated here before, professional boxing is 95% the fighter and 5% the trainer. However, great fighters need that last 5% that a great trainer brings.


Roach's statement suggesting that Pacquiao is the greater fighter and that it doesn't matter who trains Clottey couldn't be more honest and accurate. Roach has nothing to do with how fast, hard and accurate Pacquiao can punch. He also has nothing to do with the angles in which Manny can get off in tight spaces with such hard shots.


Going into this fight Clottey's style and fundamentals are pretty much what you'd want for your fighter to posses if he was fighting Pacquiao. His high guard with his chin down and elbows in should be pretty effective against Pacquiao. But Manny's quick straight lefts may be able to penetrate it and if he's able to punch around Clottey's gloves with his right, there's a good chance he can open Clottey up. And you know what? There's nothing any trainer working Clottey's corner can do about that.


Trainers are limited by the physical limitations of their fighter. Pacquiao's attack angles won't be such a big factor if Clottey can handle his power, but Manny's hand speed and ability to get off so fast will be. Blazing hand speed often causes fighters to fight in a more measured manner and pick their spots more, and since Clottey isn't known as a fighter who throws punches in bunches and overwhelms opponents with his work rate, this puts him at a huge disadvantage. Again, Roach has no bearing on that whatsoever.


Later in the call Roach said Pacquiao won't follow Clottey to the ropes nearly as much as he did Miguel Cotto in his last fight. He emphasized that since Clottey's best and most effective punch is his uppercut, he doesn't want Manny to be where he's most vulnerable to that. Now that's something where the trainer does play a major role. Then again, if Pacquiao gets carried away during the fight and goes after Clottey on the ropes and gets clocked and loses the fight, that's not his trainer's fault. 


Here's a great boxing truth: You've got to have the right horse in the stable. No trainer can "make" a fighter. A great trainer can improve a fighter tremendously. But if a guy can't fight, you can't make him into a fighter. And it's seldom that a trainer, regardless of how good he is, can transform a good fighter into a great one.


Since Pacquiao has become such a superstar and thought of by many boxing aficionados as being the best pound-for-pound fighter in boxing, Roach has been considered one of the few premier trainers in boxing. Granted, he's a very smart ring strategist and is excellent at figuring out his fighter's opponent's weakness. But lately Roach has been quoted saying "I have the greater fighter" during the build up to Pacquiao's fights. And that may be Roach's biggest and most underrated strength as a trainer. The fact that he doesn't try and put his handprint on every little thing that Pacquiao does. Freddie knows that little things here and there make the all the difference in the outcome of fights.


Roach has been a great asset to the ascension of Manny Pacquiao. And the fact that he hasn't tried to add too many ingredients has been huge. He sees the great physical skill-set and fighting aptitude that his fighter posses, and lets the greatness come to the fighter instead of trying to force it. And he must also be credited for not allowing Pacquiao to over-train and leave his fight in the gym the week before it. This is something that Pacquiao and a plethora of other world class fighters would do without a seasoned and top-tier trainer like Roach being there to rein them in. 

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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MisterLee:  I dunno! I disagree! I feel it's 70% athlete, 30% coach in any sport! The coach lays down the foundation, sizes up the strengths and weaknesses, breaks the bad habits, develops the athlete mentally and emotionally, is a key opinion for the fighter's self esteem, protects the fighter from the wolves, media, and selfish promoters and tagger on'ers, develops the fight plan, disciplines the fighter in and out of the ring, and lastly but not least, is the fighter's friend and mentor. Holler!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 01:31:56 PM
Manuel B:  When it comes to talent, I agree with Frank Lotierzo, but when it comes to getting that extra edge known as skill, I don't agree. Teaching the correct fundamentals of boxing requires a guru who knows them. Just as teaching parenting requires a parent who has experience. It is a myth that great boxer are born. Talented ones are. When a fighter quasi-mimicks another one, he is asking for a beat down. The greats of all times were greatly talented and skilled. That combo is what made them unique. Freddie Roach brought the skills to an already speedy and talented Pacquiao. The dual combination of Pacquiao's tatent and skills taught to him by Roach are what has made Pacquiao great.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 02:01:41 PM
MisterLee:  I dunno of another trainer that would have so improved Pacquiao's right hand, gave him better defense, use the "stick" to strengthen his forearms and body, give such high quality sparring partners, put a bounty on knocking his fighter down, had the confidence in his fighter to move him up to 147 from 135, improve his footwork and balance, giving him the exact game plan. Good article. Holler!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 02:11:18 PM
Franco:  The greater the person be, boxer or trainer, they seem to always give the credit to someone elses. You can see this in Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach. But the more insecure and unsure the person is, boxer (Mayweather Jr.) or trainer (Mayweather Sr.) the more he seem to take all the credits for himself of how great he's supposed to be.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 02:15:17 PM
Isaiah:  Misterlee's assestment is probaly much closer to being correct. Without a good coach, a fighter with all the potential in the world will still not reach the top. Manny Pacquiao is extremly talented, but anyone should know without Freddie Roach, Manny wouldn't be where he's at today and that's a fact. 70-30 sounds about right. Well, it's that and the ability to be able to market yourself. Can you all just see where "Honey" Sissy Boy Fraud Mayrunner would be with his boring to the max style without making that extra effort to get out in the public eye?! (That's Floyd Mayweather for the ignorant.)
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 03:22:37 PM
brownsugar:  Roach is obviously a huge asset to the Pac camp.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 03:22:40 PM
KO KiD:  In this case, its a fifty-fifty split. When Roach found Pacquiao, he was an ex-flyweight who'd been kayoed twice. Sure, he had talent, but so have a lot of people. It would have been so easy for Pacqiao' s career path to have taken a completely different turn. Roach needs to have a deeply personal relationship with a fighter to get the best out of them, and not all fighters are open to that. Pacquiao is, hence the incredible results the two have achieved. Without all the knowledge and, more importantly, self confidence and self belief that Freddy has empowered him with, the PacMan would not be the fighter he is today. He would probably be nothing more than a decent featherweight contender. And that' s not a dig against Pacquiao, who I regard as an all time great already. Its a testament to the genius of Freddie Roach.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 03:51:52 PM
TEACHER:  Very good article, wether its 5% or 30%, the communication between the fighter and the coach is key, if the fighter trust the direction in which he is being led, then it works, the best fighter with the best coach has a tendency not to work because EGO's get in the way, it's been evident from the start that Freddie's interests were in developing the fighter (s), and not on himself, very good coach, and does he have another superstar in the making.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 03:58:16 PM
big bad Rog:  Percentages, percentages, percentages. Come fight night mr Pacroid is gonna be 100% iced. Finis!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 04:16:53 PM
Isaiah:  Good luck with that one Rog. Even if Pacquiao who has never been PROVEN to take anything in his life loses, he will have FAR more respect in the boxing community then Xylocaine Mayweather will EVER have. It's too bad your Sissy Boy had too demand her own rules which have NEVER been done before to DUCK Terminator Manny. Also by your statement, you ARE indirectly admitting Clottey as a worthy opponent against the Pacman, as you should. Mosley wanted to take on Mayweather beyond all doubt in 2007, but Sissy Boy waited until Sugar Shane was pushing 40 before agreeing to fight him and that's only because of divine intervention with the Haiti earthquake that Andre Berto pulled out and left Scareweather no choice. It's pretty sad it takes an act of GOD before Mayweather has any guts and even then, Fraud is still pushing that random blood test BS. Of course, Shane would agree to that. Money is too good to pass up. If 3 blood and unlimited urine tests aren't good enough for you, well... I guess I shouldn't be suprised with you being a Mayweather fan. I could count you brain cells on one hand. Hey, whatever helps you justify knowing deep down that Pacquiao would put that ugly L on Floyd. Keep on calling him Pacroid buddy. He'll keep on beating the biggest challenges and making people like you look dumber with every passing fight and he'll do all natural while Sissy Boy will keep on feeding her sheeple with BS reasons why she needs Xylocaine. How many OTHER all time greats you know needed all these advantages to fight someone? I'll wait... LOL! Who's the best welter Mayweather beat in 5 years? Zab Judah? Whoopededoo! ZZZZZZZZZ......... Manny's had 2 welter fights. The best he beat really is one of the best, Miguel Cotto! Go ahead and tell me how Cotto was at 145 and I insist to hear your latest pathetic excuse on why Mayweather had to weigh over 144 to 146 to fight lightweight Marquez. Face it. Your boy is a coward for life.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 04:55:46 PM
Xylocaine:  Does anyone know if Floyd will be able to use the performance enhancing drug Xylocaine for the Mosley fight? My guess is no, but there's been no confirmation. Given the fact they're employing Olympic drug testing for the fight, and Xylocaine is BANNED from Olympic use, therefore I'm guessing that he can't use the illegal PED Xylocaine for the fight.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 05:35:39 PM
baloney M15 agent:  You never know what you are getting in a box of chocolates. Good soap cleans well. Pacquiao is at the top of the P4P food chain. Clottey fights like a slow drip of muddy water trying to break a 50-kilo-size block of ice. Pacquiao is going to eat him alive. Going to beat him like smoked gravy on a steak. Like grinding burnt off toast. Like white on rice; like yellow on a banana peel, like red on a tomato; like brown on ginger bread, like black on raisins. like funk on a panther.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 05:53:38 PM
big bad Rog @ isaiah:  A lengthy riposte. Every dog has his day. And Clotteys is the 13th. He has been underestimated by the pacman. Roids will feel the counters, the quick straight rights and the body shots and realise the juice won't cut it on this occasion. Clottey can take what Manny has and then some. He is a sound,technical fighter who does all the basics well. Adios pacroid!!!!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 07:23:08 PM
Isaiah:  If I had the power to have Mayweather lose to Mosley, but in exchange for that, I had to have Pacquiao lose to Clottey, would I still do it? :: A resounding :: YES! As a fan, that high price would be worth it to shut Sissy Boy Floyd's mouth up. Bye, bye perfect record! Sugar Shane is going to pour out the spice!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 07:48:57 PM
NEWV @ ROG:  uhmmm...if pac win.....will u post again after the fight?or you will changed your name and post another hatin on pacquiao?just askin..
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 07:54:34 PM
the Roast:  August 14th Jean Pascal vs Chad Dawson!!! That should be good! I'll take Pascal by KO!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 08:08:30 PM
@NEWV:  You are wasting your time. This hateful clown and fraud wishing that he was a secret agent for British Intelligence will continue to Asian hate, while he claims racism against blacks.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 08:13:17 PM
M15 NOT:  Amir Khan will become one of the greatest fighters that ever stepped out of Great Britian. He predicts that Pacquiao will knock out Clottey, lights OUT!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 08:17:27 PM
MisterLee:  Amir khan is a glass jaw who's protected and coddled under his mommy's underarm fo' sho! He's good, but until he fights ortiz, maidana, bradley, or alexander or someone who could punch, that guy's a Khan artist fo' sho! Anyway... I dunno about KO the Roast! Pascal is bit of a featherfist, and Dawson is no KO artist himself,I see it a close decision to Dawson fo' sho! Then Ward gets leftovers, then beats up Bute after the Super Six, for certain! Holler at Smiley!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 08:56:48 PM
rich:  'SIZE DOESN'T WIN FIGHT SKILLS DO." MAESTRO FREDDIE
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 09:05:27 PM
boxingfan:  I agree, maybe 70% fighter and 30% trainer. The 30% for the trainer who is really excellent at his art but not all trainers can produce that full 30% for example a novice trainer can probably produce the 5% from that 30 and not train his fighter well so there is a void where the fighter should have improved but the trainer wasnt able to fill it and hence only 5% so the fighter was at 75% during fight time but there is also the factor of the conditioning coach which many dont even consider. The fact that manny has grown bigger and muscular not flabby like maquez was against Floyd is a credit to his conditioning coach.. The trainer can make the fighter punch and dance all day but he is not an expert on nutrition and the physical aspects of the game like strenghtening. Imagine training the likes of PAcquiao without alex ariza and Manny probably couldnt make the full 147lbs and maybe even 142lbs
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 09:07:18 PM
john lace:  Freddie is so humble! There is no such thing as a bad boxer, but a lousy trainer. Mr. Roach is the best there is. 5%? I don't think so.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 09:29:29 PM
the Roast:  Pascal is a wild swinging mo fo. Looking into the crystal ball, I see Dawson getting caught and flattend like Hatton!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 09:49:05 PM
doubletangoromeo:  i bliv that it's an even 50-50 split btween trainer and fighter, no fighter can ascend to greater heights w/o the watchful eye of his trainer...look at mike tyson, when cus d'amato left this world, there was a void that nodoby can fill that was left by him, the same thing is true with manny, take freddie out of the equation and manny, to quote FMJ, is just another fighter!
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 09:49:50 PM
Bobby Bagoong:  I think Freddie doesn't give himself enough credit but I appreciate how he give most if not all the credit to his fighter. I think it is more 80/20 or 75/25. Game planning and studying fights is a huge factor in boxing. Also training for the fight and exercising the game plan is another big factor. Also in a fight, the fighter may not see certain things that are happening in the ring and the trainer will correct or implement an adjustment. Just look at Joe Santiago who is the trainer for the Cotto vs Pacquiao fight. He was totally clueless and didn't have the credentials to give sound advice to his fighter. Instead Joe gave Cotto useless motivational advices, which Cotto doesn't need. What Cotto needed was some advice or the type of adjustments he needed. Freddie is the best trainer in boxing right now. He will go down as a HOF'er.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 11:31:25 PM
omeng:  I 100% agree to MISTERLEE'S comment, a trainer's role gotta be bigger than 5%.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 11:52:28 PM
jca:  I agree with the fact that the fighter's ability is greater than that of the trainer. What I disagree is the figure of 95% to that of 5% for the trainer. I believe the trainer puts more than mere 5%. Perhaps a quarter. The strenght of Roach is his measured calmness that tends to flow through Manny. Manny used to be an ultra agressive fighter, but now a bit more calm and measured. Look at him fight - we see patience, explosiveness, mental alertness etc. These were qualities that you did not see Manny do in a balanced and right way before. Surely this could not be Manny's but Roach. The skill of Manny's right hand was non-existent before. Again this is the blueprint of Roach. Roach has done alot for Manny to where Manny as a very good student benefited from that. Anyway a good and fine article.
Sunday Mar 7, 2010 11:52:32 PM
smoothbob:  i once read an article on where you will place pacman on the history of boxing ATG.this one boxing expert and historian said,after the pac KO hatton and win his 6th title in 6 different division,said he place pac as one of the top 100 of ATG.oh really?so i try to find out if theres another 99 boxers who accomplished that but found out only a handful.and after that TKO against cotto,and get his 7th title in as many division,this same expert said now he place pac on the top 50 ATG.but unfortunately theres nobody accomplished that achievement except for the pacman.where you'l place pacman now?easily on the top 5 ATG conservatively.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 12:25:52 AM
Rick:  Roach actually made Pacquiao of what he is today. Manny is no question a very good fighter but his training with Roach made him the best. It is not measurable by percentage because it is basically putting an imaginary limit for both boxer and trainer, but looking back at Manny before he trained by Roach is just a one dimensional very powerful left handed fighter, but now, both hands can knock his opponent out and his footwork is much better than before. Well, if he is trained by others, he won't be a fighter as he is now, on the other hand without Manny's dedication and hardwork it can not be also achieved. But there will be a point that the master cannot teach anymore his student as he already transferred everything, just like a trainer and a boxer. It will be then that the ingenuity of a boxer came in, and Pacquiao has it. That made him become better for each fight and the best among equals...
Monday Mar 8, 2010 01:02:01 AM
natebrawl:  I'd say Mr. Freddie Roach and Mr. Buboy Fernandez can be credited for as much 5 percent of Manny Pacquiao's performance DURING the fight. When Manny's into it -- he hears, but that fighting heart of his doesn't really listen "en toto". Perhaps, 20 percent is Roach's influence during training because Pacquiao DOES have the tendency to overwork himself.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 03:21:15 AM
EL Maromero:  Personally, I think Nacho Berinstain is the best trainer in the world right now. He has made champions over and over again for years now. You can actually see his mentality when his boxers perform. The boxers always have the classic stance and they never rely on one or two things they bounce around the ring and don't waste punches. Roach was not anywhere near as popular before he got Manny and now he is getting a whole bunch of talented prospects in his gym. I hope that Roach stays healthy and makes more Champions cause he is a very good obsevational trainer.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 06:14:49 AM
Double standards:  The Choco bunny can get away with an attacks. He ain't nothing but a cheating welfare case.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 07:25:07 AM
Pacfraud:  I would say it's 2 to 3 % max that a trainer gives to a fighter. However, for some it can be more (as high as 20 to 25% at times) and for some it's less. A fighter like Pacquiao, with his work ethic, natural assets (such as speed, heart & spirit) would have developed into a very good fighter anyway - as long as he didn't have a dumbass trainer. Freddie Roach works because he has experience, knows how to run a professional training camp, and doesn't try to act as if he has to teach the fighter everything or that he is the reason why the fighter is great.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 08:41:30 AM
Pac-fraud:  Muhammad Ali basically trained himself for most of his career and didn't always follow his corner's instructions since he was the one out there fighting and had great boxing knowledge and knew how to set traps for fighters in the ring. In the Foreman fight, Ali's corner had no idea what the heck Ali was doing when he went to the ropes; Ali's corner thought fighting off the ropes would get him killed. But Ali was superior mentally and knew exactly what he was doing. Roy Jones is another fighter that basically trained himself, but was more open to coaching and instruction than Ali. Ali's "trainers" were more cornermen whose jobs were to run his training camp and get him sparring partners, fresh towels and water.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 09:01:05 AM
MisteRLee:  @ El Maromero, come on, roach has worked with Michael Moorer, mike tyson, was assistant trainer to many great fighters, also trained vasquez, penalosa, turned Khan's career around, he trained mma fighter Anderson silva who went up in weight class from middle weight to light heavyweight (in MMA, LHW is 205) and got a one punch KO on forrest griffin by backpedaling and throwing a counter right on his backfoot. Roach is pure class (fo' sho!)
Monday Mar 8, 2010 09:38:37 AM
El Maromero@ MisterLee:  Yeah he has worked with many great fighters but what I'm saying is that he hasn't developed his fighters into champions. Now that he is popular I bet the prospects are lining up to be next to him and it's good. He has that Cuban guy Rigondiox (spelled wrong) and Ive seen the kid from Arizona J. Benavidez who looks great so far. He should be a legend if his health is good but I don't like the fact that he is considered by some as the best trainer already.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 10:38:24 AM
The Saint:  Chemistry is one of the most important aspects between a trainer and a fighter. Then there's the training method, strategy, etc. There's no real way to break down what percentages should be accredited towards the trainer and fighter, it's all rhetorical nonsense like "boxing is 10% physical and 90% mental." Roach definitely deserves all the credit in the world for the refinement of Pacquiao's skills. Floyd Mayweather, on the other hand, is as good as he is IN SPITE of his trainers. In my humble opinion, neither Roger or Floyd Sr has done anything for Mayweather.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 10:41:59 AM
big bad Rog @Neww:  Are you playing the race card, just cos I think Clottey will beat Pacroid? Ha, ha, ha! You have some serious issues, dude! I don't have a problems with any, race, creed, colour or religion you clown. What I do have a problem with is cheats. I also have a problem with idiots who play the race card when you say something they don't agree with. Clottey will ice pacroid and I will be back to gloat! A shot Cotto bust up his face, Josh will bust his a$$!
Monday Mar 8, 2010 11:09:33 AM
big bad Rog @Newv:  Hey. You are the rambling Radam in disguise. I thought you ran away to lick your wounds and get some new lyrics! Hollow!!!
Monday Mar 8, 2010 11:12:30 AM
El Maromero@ Saint:  Floyd grew up with his trainer, what do you mean that he is good in spite? He has natural physical gifts yeah he also has a high ring IQ. His uncle Roger use to use that shoulder roll but I think his father taught him how to be a defensive styled fighter.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 11:25:32 AM
Eastar:  The Satan is an absolute fool. He does'nt know what he is talking about. Floyd Sr tought Floyd his great defence (the best in the business) but his uncle, Roger, mad him open up more on offence to make him a complete fighter. Don't forget Floyd Sr, and Roger both trained world champions besides Floyd Jr.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 11:40:58 AM
The Saint:  @el maromero: Even though Floyd has no heart and has urinated on TV when Mosley confronted him, he's still a natural fighter, I give him that much credit, just like James Toney is a natural fighter (although Toney's skillset is leagues above Mayweather's, main difference being that Toney didn't duck anybody). All Roger and Floyd Sr. are good for are advice on how to beat up women and which wh0rehouses provide underage girls.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 12:08:39 PM
Eastar:  Floyd vs Shane = 3 million PPV. Pacroid vs blood Clottey = 600,000 PPV.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 12:24:20 PM
The Saint:  @bE-ASTARd: Who cares? You reaching for something to hold on to at night when you go to bed besides @n@L beads? LOL. Put Mayweather in against Clottey and Mayweather will get KO'd and sell less than 100,000 PPV buys. Put Pacquiao against Mosley and they'll sell well over 3 million.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 01:11:00 PM
Cox's Corner:  If George Foreman fought larry Holmes in the 90's it would have been bigger than Floyd vs Shane but would it mean anything? No. the fight meant something only years before.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 02:11:18 PM
Rampage:  OUCH! The Saint is on a RAMPAGE with those last two comments! The advice of Roger and Floyd Sr. and ____ beads?!?! WOW! The gloves are OFF!
Monday Mar 8, 2010 02:19:12 PM
MLB@newv:  This clown who lies about being a M15 agent is paranoid and jealous of the former reader named Radam. I think that Radam revealed him and destroyed him. Rog is a disgrace from where his forefathers crawled and jumped.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 02:25:01 PM
Real Talk @ misterlee:  Good comment up top homie. One of if not the best I've read from you in recent memory. I say 80/20 depending on the fighter. I'm about to relocate so I holla later. Dueces
Monday Mar 8, 2010 04:26:06 PM
big bad Rog@MLB:  Is MI5 not M15. Get your facts right. MLB= Major League Buffoon! Hollow!!!!!
Monday Mar 8, 2010 04:27:51 PM
MLB is not a bit worry about a ____about trees:  A pathetic clown, claiming to be a member of one the United Kingdom's elite intelligence agenies, but you have nothing better to do than spend time on a boxing site harassing Asian readers. You have a lot to learn. Even the banana republic that you originated from wouldn't give you a job, except for cleaning the feces out of the cages and feeding fruits to the knuckle draggers. Why don't you quit being paranoid, calling every reader Radam and just talk about boxing. That guy must have really shook you up. Get over him! Suck up the verbal thrashing that he put on your racist arse! Move on, you Asian hater! As far as I know, Radam is gone, except in the space of a tiny-brained psycho-babbling unfit British national, who's posting kiddy taunts because Pacquiao is going to knock out a very black man. Yes, I too heard that Pacquiao does not fight black fighters. Those 50,000 Texans in that soldout Cowboys' Palace in Dallas must be suffering from "Jungle Fever."
Monday Mar 8, 2010 06:54:34 PM
Eastar:  Here goes The Satan getting all fruity on me smh. Don't get mad at me because Pacroid is so afraid of Mayweather that he turned down $25 million and instead excepted $6 million to fight an easier opponent that he knows he going to beat in Clottey LOL. You know everytime Floyd fights it's eight figures and up. Your just pathetic.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 07:44:14 PM
Isaiah:  If "Honey" Sissy Boy Fraud Mayrunner was a man of his word and really meant what he said about beating Pacquiao in any circumstance, then he wouldn't need and special diva demands to kick his butt. I laugh at the way his fans like to contradict themselves almost as much as their hero. I'm still waiting on that "pacroid" proof, and waiting an waiting and waiting and waiting... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ................
Monday Mar 8, 2010 08:19:28 PM
Isaiah:  My bad on the 2 typos.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 08:21:55 PM
#1 PacFan "Pac by TKO in 8":  I say 90-10, a trainer can only do so much. It depends on the fighter on how well he soaks in the ingredients given by his trainer. But in the case of Roach I would give him 15% credit for evolving Manny into a complete fighter. Manny was already a killer instinct type of fighter who trains like no other. He was always willing to learn something new. I just couldn't believe how much Roach improved Manny since leaving 130. He says that he keeps on getting better I disagree. The only flaws Manny has is getting off balance getting tagged when on the attack. Unless you want to change Manny into a counter-puncher. But who doesn't get hit when trying to knock out your opponent? I know who you're going to bring up...but he's a defense first type of fighter. There's a difference.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 09:40:37 PM
#1 PacFan "Pac by TKO in 8":  I would have to say that Roach is the "Decade's best trainer" at this point. He has trained so many world champions and it's crazy how he doesn't take any credit for any of them.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 09:42:35 PM
Eastar:  If Pacroid can really beat Floyd and really wants to fight him so bad like Retard Roach says he does than why don't he sign the contract that is already made up and signed by Mayweather. Everything is in place, the weight, gloves, and even the purse split. But Pacroid is a made up fighter who was built by Bum Arum and made into a myth by his Pactard fans. All hype, that is why he will only fight Top Rank fighters and continue to duck Floyd.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 10:38:12 PM
Eastar:  @ The Satan Put Pacroid against Mosely you might get 1 million PPV for a boring fight between two PED heads.
Monday Mar 8, 2010 11:37:52 PM
Isaiah:  It's too bad Mayweather can't hear his fans from his loud crying when he hurts his hand in sparring from lack of Xylocaine. You have to admire a Mayweather fan, a.k.a. don't know what a real man is who doesn't have money as their god and who don't cheat with hand numbing shots fan, for their ignorance and arrogance. Floyd Mayweather is a woman abusing, Xylocaine using, no proof accusing, jealous jerk who is scared out of his mind of Manny Pacquiao and the whole world knows it. Mr. "I can beat Pacquiao steroids or no steroids." My response. Beat him then chump. STFU! Stop making insane diva demands and step the FUDGE up to the plate big man! What? Is Mayrunner going to duck out of this fight to and fight another lightweight or is Fraud going to come into the weigh in at 160 pounds? LOL! Cluckin it extra crispy today and everyday from Fraud Mayrunner himself.
Tuesday Mar 9, 2010 12:55:05 AM
@Eastar the choco bunny:  Go find your buried rotten eggs before Easter. Pacman will beat the hide off FloydPEDs and you know it. You just keep ranting and raving. Maybe you and Daffy Duck can get together and have an eggfest with Pretty Scared Boy.
Tuesday Mar 9, 2010 01:01:12 AM
@Eastar the choco bunny:  Floyd Mayweather Sr, Emaneul Steward, Angelo Dundee, Nacho Berstrain, Ronnie Shield, Jessie Reid, Tommy Brooks, Don Turner, Eddie Futch, Don Miller and I can go on and on all trained world champions but were never world champions. See how that works???!!! Maybe you should crawl back into your little smelly rotten egg hole.
Tuesday Mar 9, 2010 07:35:40 AM
that dog:  Pacroid is 95% juice and PEDs and 5% freddy lieng to the media. He was a fighter he knows whats in the realms of reality. He just got greedy and ignores the fact his boy is on something its dispicable
Tuesday Mar 9, 2010 04:48:45 PM
Niko:  I totally agree with the percentage Frank stated. And Roach is an extraordinary trainer, and "sees" the fight very well. Also de ability of Pacman to follow the advice, tactics and "sets" of the the fight. Eastar: You are soooooooooo out of the line there, specially referring to a parkinson´s desease man like a retard. To be honest, that reveals the quality of human being you are!
Tuesday Mar 9, 2010 10:39:48 PM
The Saint:  @bE-ASTARd: Your beads are stinking up this website. Take them someplace else. LOL
Wednesday Mar 10, 2010 04:34:25 PM
The Saint:  BREAKING NEWS: Mayweather lied to the police regarding the shooting incident at the skating rink! He denied knowing the shooter or anyone named "Ocie" but surveillance videotapes and records linked Mayweather and the shooter when they searched Mayweather's home! LOLLLLLLLLL. While Mayweather hasn't been charged, it remains a possibility. This proves beyond a doubt that Mayweather and all his fanz are thugz and criminalz, YO! HOLLA!!!!!
Wednesday Mar 10, 2010 05:36:38 PM

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