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Who's The Real Shane Mosley In 2010?
By Frank Lotierzo
Now that the Mayweather-Mosley bout is signed and scheduled to take place on May 1st, the speculation as to who will win has begun. Shane and Floyd are two of the greatest and most complete fighters to grace the sport of professional boxing over the last 20 years. Mayweather who will turn 33 later this month and Mosley who will be 39 a few months after the fight are two of the best welterweights in the world. Obviously Manny Pacquiao has to be included in that conversation as well. Most likely Pacquiao would be a slight underdog against Mayweather and a slight favorite over Mosley.
As of this writing Mayweather looks to be the surer bet over Mosley when it comes to which one of them will show up having retained their A-game on the night of May 1st. Floyd looked tremendous in dismantling Juan Manuel Marquez in his last bout. In his previous fight against Ricky Hatton he looked to be at the top of his game and performed better than he did in his signature winning bout versus Oscar De La Hoya a little more than two and a half years ago.
Shane Mosley fought one of the most complete fights of his career a little over a year ago when he took apart and stopped the tough and durable Antonio Margarito in his last fight. It was also Mosley's first fight with his new trainer Nazeem Richardson. Under Richardson's tutelage, Shane exhibited great holding and clenching skills which were exactly what he needed to do in order to disrupt and impede Margarito's aggression and strength.
Nazeem appears to have infused life into Mosley at the twilight of his career. The only thing that's unclear... is the Margarito fight a good indicator of who Mosley is as a fighter in 2010? Did Shane match up well with Margarito or is he really the fighter who was being written off after losing a decision to Miguel Cotto and then coming on to stop the crude and wild swinging Ricardo Mayorga in the last round in his last bout before meeting Margarito?
What Mosley shows up to face Floyd Mayweather this coming May will determine what kind of a fight boxing fans will see. If it's the Mosley who had a hard time getting off versus Mayorga until Ricardo slowed and became more predictable and easier to time than he normally is, Mayweather will run away with the fight. And if it's the Mosley who got caught in between styles fighting Cotto, Mayweather will pot-shot him and stay a step ahead of him the entire fight.
The last thing Mosley can let happen against Mayweather is for him to try and show Floyd something different from round to round. If Shane comes out aggressively, looking to put Floyd away with one big punch, he'll think he's punching at a sheet draped over a clothes line hanging in his neighbor's backyard. And if he tries to bring Mayweather to him looking for the big counter, he'll come in second every time because Mayweather has the reach, hand speed and instincts to beat Mosley playing tag.
On the other hand if Mosley fights with the same purpose and ring savvy he exhibited against Margarito, then the fight has a chance to be a memorable one. Against Margarito, Mosley boxed from the outside as Antonio was trying to shrink the ring and force it on the inside. Once he got there Mosley tied him up and clinched - thus impeding Margarito's aggression and forcing him to reset and start over. Then when Margarito tried to change it up and inch his way towards Mosley behind his jab, Shane sensed the subtle change and fought more aggressively, utilizing his superior hand speed and made Margarito pay a price on the way in and set him up to be taken out later in the fight.
For the Margarito fight, Mosley's trainer Nazeem Richardson drew up the perfect fight plan and Mosley followed it to the letter. And in doing that he had to fight himself along the way because Shane likes to attack and trade when he's under fire. However, Richardson apparently reached Mosley and convinced him trading and going to war with Margarito wasn't the way to go.
At this time Richardson has to be considered one of the three or four best trainers in professional boxing. Now he has to come up with a fight-plan for an almost 39-year-old Mosley to somehow draw Mayweather into a knockdown, drag-out fight in order for him to have his best chance to beat the favored Mayweather. And for him to do that, Mosley will have to have retained enough of his physical skills and weapons to carry out the plan against what will surely be an uncooperative Mayweather.
If Mosley is to hand Mayweather his first pro defeat, he'll have to force the fight on the inside and somehow keep it there for a majority of the time. Mayweather likes his opponent to bring the fight to him, but has never been confronted by an opponent who had fast hands who's stronger than him. Mosley has to force Mayweather to trade hooks and uppercuts with him while his back is on the ropes. To do that he'll have to be in great shape and also be elusive enough to make Mayweather's jab miss him with some consistency. If Shane is too upright as he's moving in, Mayweather will pepper him with his left-jab and score with some crowd stopping left-hooks off it.
Mosley does not need to be creative to beat Mayweather (if he's going to beat him, that is.) He has to be completely consistent, start to finish. And he doesn't have to worry about whether his shots are catching Floyd clean early in the fight, he just has to stay on him, landing anywhere he can.
The question that cannot be answered until fight night is - is Shane Mosley the measured and calculated physical force that took apart Antonio Margarito or is he the fighter who looked a little better than ordinary versus Cotto and Mayorga but certainly not extraordinary. When Mosley steps into the ring to fight Floyd Mayweather he'll becoming off the longest period of inactivity of his 17 year career. Add to that Mayweather is the most accurate and best counter-puncher he will have faced during his career, and that's not a good recipe to go into a fight with Mayweather.
As of late Mosley's speech and diction haven't been as sharp and clear as it once was. I hope that's more the case of me catching him on and off day or after a tough gym session. But in all honesty that scares me as to what Mosley has left. When it was discussed that he was going to fight Joshua Clottey it was stated here that in my opinion that was a bad matchup for him. Once that fight fell through and the fight with Andre Berto was made, I felt that Shane wasn't a lock to win that one.
Mayweather from a style and mindset vantage-point will present Mosley more problems than either Clottey or Berto could've. I'm not going to guess at this time what version of Mosley will show up. What I do know is if he's not the fighter we saw versus Margarito, Floyd Mayweather will have a lot to do with him looking spent and on the severe decline.
Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com
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Anony [ repost ]:
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FOR THE RECORD... I believe Floyd will win this fight. Mosley only opportunity is to KO the girl between two rounds. The problem with Floyd is that he is really good and after two or three rounds he knows how to deal with his opponent and as every round goes by he gets confident and start controlling more. In this case Mosley or any other fighter should take "the fear" advantage from Floyd at the beginning of the fight. Paul Williams for example could crush Floyd in one or two rounds with those long arms and war attitude. Cotto too could do the damage to Floyd if he starts strong - but he doesn't like to do that, he is a progressive boxer, as it Shane. Floyd by decision on this one.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 12:33:55 PM
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Frank Z:
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The second to last paragraph is very telling. i had also noticed that mosley slurs a bit more in recent years than he did back in 2000 wen they were talking to him about his upcoming fight with oscar. i like f-lo also hpe that its just from being caught on a tired day, but you never know, he's had a lot of tough fights and he's been in the game for a looong time. shane's my favorite active boxer and it'd be a shame to see something like that happen to him.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 01:21:58 PM
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bri:
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i like mosley tough fighter. he gets hit and just keeps coming. but as much as people hait to edmit it. floyd is the best in the game. put any fighter against him and they are the underdog in the fight. floyd is gona pick mosley apart. mosley will have no answers for him like everyone else. i call floyd the p.j. penn of boxing. the higher he goes in weight ala oscar at 154 the better chance fighers have to defeat him. at his weight no one can give him compatition. not mosley not cotto, not pacman nobody.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 01:29:56 PM
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iamdodi:
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NAZIM RICHARDSON IS THE KEY TO MOSLEY BEATING FLOYD
MOSLEY HAS ENOUGH TOOLS TO DEFEAT FLOYD. MOSLEY IS ALMOST AS FAST, ALMOST AS SLICK, ALMOST AS GOOD BOXER AS FLOYD. ENOUGH STAMINA TO CONTINUE AND FINISH WHAT OSCAR AGAINST FLOYD. ANOTHER BIG ADVANTAGE MOSLEY HAS OVER FLOYD IS POWER AND ONE PUNCH KO.
FOR MOSLEY TO WIN, HE HAS TO TRUST NAZIM AND FALLOW THE GAME PLAN BECAUSE SUGAR DOES HAVE THE TOOLS TO GIVE MAYWEATHER HIS 40-1 LOSS.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 02:16:51 PM
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El Maromero:
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Nazeem Richardson = X FACTOR
Friday Feb 12, 2010 02:24:19 PM
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straight jab:
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Great article Frank. everything there may well indeed be true. But before we go writing off Shane. I remember when we wrote off an aging Evander Holyfield against Mike Tyson. Holyfield had fought the best of his era in several weight classes( like shane) was thought to be well past his prime and declining more each day. we know how that turned out. Whether Shane is the fighter he was 10 years ago or not isn't in play here. because he is not. But he is currently and will be on May 1st the very best fighter that Mayweather has ever stepped in the ring with. Mosely's career has been littered with Mayweathers( no offense to Floyd) but Floyd's career has never seen a Mosely. Mosely will be mentally and physically the absolute best he can be that night, we can all bet on that. and Mayweather very well may be able to win anyway. but lest we too soon forget Evander, or Bernard, or even Big George. Great fighters do great things. and Mosely is a hall of famer. one of the greats ever. as the song goes. He may not be as good as he once was. But he's as good once as he ever was. lets hope so
Friday Feb 12, 2010 03:22:14 PM
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counterpunch:
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once SuarShane establishs his jab and backs-up (that is from outside) Mayweather to the ropes, then, its all over. I'm sure shane will find his jabs (snap) like in the early part of his career. (Afterall, his is called SUGAR!) Remember, even the prime Oscar D.H. (first fight) could not out jab SugarShane. Once Mayweather backs up (which he will) and Sugar cuts him off (with angles) and pin him (trap him) on the ropes, Sugar will move in for the KILL (remember the other greatest fighter Henry Armstrong(?) "homocide hank," revisited, Shane will rough him up inside, overhand rights and under with double lefthooks(head, body--specially with the liver-shot) and if you think Castillo roughened mayweather up just wait and see what Shane is going to do inside).
No, disrespect to MayweatherMania, Floyd is a master boxer just like SUGARSHANE; however, the difference is that when it comes down to it SugarShane fights, not run like mayweather. You see, Mayweather linage(mental make-up) goes back to Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker (great fighters) but SugarShane linage goes back to Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong (the GREATEST) and that is the difference. I CANT wait for SUGAR RUSH II (p4p) in May!
Friday Feb 12, 2010 03:33:54 PM
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I believe the key to beating Mayweather is sustained pressure behind a good JAB. Without a jab, forget about it. The problem for Mosley is that he sometimes gets carried away and starts throwing bombs. When odh was doing well against Mayweather it was when odh was throwing sharp jabs. Those overhand rights Mosley threw and landed against margaritto will not work here due to the shoulder roll and the angle at which mayweather fights. Mosley has to have sharp jabs, move in behind straight shots. And once inside, Mosley has to use his strength effectively. He has to keep his hooks and uppercuts short and double up on them. Not one big bomb at a time. Mosley was loading up against margaritto, which is the right thing because margaritto does not have a good defense. But here, Mosley will be facing a defensive minded fighter who will be very cautious in the first couple of rounds. They way to beat Mayweather is to win a few rounds early and force him to become offensive. Mosley has the tools to do it, but the only problem is that mosley sometimes does not have the discipline to fight a boxer's fight. He becomes a slugger for minutes in a round. A boxer/puncher with a good jab is the style to beating mayweather.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 03:55:00 PM
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The Saint:
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I think that Goldenboy is taking advantage of Mosley or Mayweather. One thing I know for sure is that Andre Berto pulling out at the last minute was undoubtedly Goldenboy's doing. Either they believe that Mosley has Mayweather's number and that they'll have Mayweather cornered once Berto pulled out, or they know how bad Mosley has been looking in the gym and would rather him lose to Mayweather and make significantly more money than they would've made from Mosley-Berto. While I don't disagree with Frank Lotierzo's analysis, I do think that there is a danger to unfairly discredit Mayweather if he beats Mosley, the way Pacquiao was discredited against Cotto and De La Hoya. The circumstances are a little different, particularly in the case of De la Hoya vs Pacquiao, in which Pacquiao came in as a huge underdog. But should Mayweather win, Mosley shouldn't automatically be written off as being a shot fighter. I'm not suggesting that we should rule out that possibility, either, but we shouldn't automatically conclude that Mosley was washed up, unless he looks like the way Ali did against Holmes. In Pacquiao-De la Hoya, I think that Oscar didn't look bad in the first couple of rounds. He was a step behind Pacquiao, but it looked like it would only be a matter of time before Oscar found his groove. He was missing, but he was punching with authority and confidence. He didn't look like a shot fighter until after Pacquiao started beating the crap out of him. We can't go into the Mayweather-Mosley fight with this circular reasoning: Mosley will lose to Mayweather if Mosley is washed up; Mosley lost, so therefore, he's washed up. Mayweather should get credit where it is due, but not any more credit than what Miguel Cotto got from beating Mosley, unless Mayweather beats Mosley in a significantly more spectacular way than Cotto did. This is, after all, an older version of Mosley than what Cotto had to deal with. I definitely won't give Mayweather more credit than Vernon Forrest did, who beat Mosley TWICE when Mosley was in his absolute prime, nor would I give him more credit than Winky Wright got for beating a post-prime, but not quite as old Mosley.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 04:02:19 PM
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jim:
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mosley would win. cotto and mayorga KO JMM
Friday Feb 12, 2010 04:07:45 PM
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brownsugar:
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Wow,... some great comments and interesting scenarios,..1st,.. as far as the slur factor is concerned,... just fugetaboutit,...Tommy Hearns came into the pro's slurring heavily before he even won a championship,..and "face-fighter- extrordinaire",.. Jake Lamotta spoke well enough to go on and do little comedy and acting after his boxing career was over..the Thing about Shane is,.. he's stubborn,.. if he loses a fight he goes right back and does the same thing he did the last time,.. only he tries harder..... I watched Shane vs Mayorga, Cotto,.. and Margarito last night,..Shane is tough and stong enough to walk forward against anybody,.. totally without fear,..but he's stubborn,.. he'll get hit with the same punches all night,... he fights with the belief that he'll be able to hit his opponent more,.. or harder,... I'm sure Nazim will come up with a perfect plan,..and Floyd will get him out of it,.. Shane was strong and seasoned enough to go toe to toe with Margarito,.. all he had to do was punch and hold... against Cotto,.. he let Cotto be first too many times,.. I thought he was decent against the crazy looking Mayorga,... Mayorga will make anyone look bad,... waving his hands all around like he's got a pistol..... but Mayweather could very well decide to take it to Mosley,.. which he sometimes does,.. then Mosleys plans goes out the window,.. People know that Floyd is defensive boxer,.. but his accurate offense is what wins on the judges cards...I expect to see a brilliant offense from Floyd when they meet.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 05:05:11 PM
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MichaelPaine:
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As good as Mosley is now and has been in the past, I don't see him having the edge on Mayweather in any department but power. I see this fight going very much like Mayweather's fight against Zab Judah, i.e. Mosley will have his moments early on but as soon as Floyd finds his timing he'll take over the fight en route to a UD12 in a boxing masterclass.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 05:29:50 PM
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Yuvie:
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There's not a better time to get a good win under your belt over Mosley than now. In another world, another time, Mosley wins this fight. Or vice versa. In this world, as things stand today, Mayweather will win this. A lot is riding on this fight and in today's world of boxing, they might just pay Mosley a little extra to throw the fight so that all roads can lead to Mayweather/Pacquiao. What can I say? I'm a little cynical of boxing atm. If Mayweather's daddy can make wild accusations and people start to believe then so can anyone. Personally, before the Margarito fight, I thought Mosley would beat him. I was one of the few. As I have always said, Mosley's win over Margarito was a career highlight but you just have to think about the circumstances a bit more. My point is, how would you feel walking to that ring and having to fight after you'd be found out (or lets say you were innocent and had been suspected) that you were trying to cheat. I don't like to downplay Mosley's win but Margarito couldn't have been in the best states of mind going into that fight after all that happened during the pre-fight period, that's just my opinion. Mosley is not the fighter he used to be and the Margarito win flattered him. People forget that Cotto beat him in a close but fair decision and that's a guy who fades in the later rounds. Mayweather is a completely different kettle of fish. He gets stronger & smarter as the fight goes on. Therefore, my belief is that only a fool would bet on Mosley to win.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 07:30:47 PM
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Real Talk:
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@ Anony, I got disagree with you my dude. Paul Williams jab aint good enough to beat Floyd. He throws a lot of punches which will leave him open for shots against a sharpshooter. I see Floyd pulling another Diego on Paul. Cotto doesn't seem to have the mental strength or defense or consistent discipline to get it done. Dueces
Friday Feb 12, 2010 09:43:11 PM
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Real Talk chilling with my tribe:
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@ Straight Jab, the minute you said Mosley's career was littered with Floyd's you lost me an all credibility. I mean are you serious?!! Fighers like this dude come along once in an era. You make it seem like he's a rn of the mill journeyman. Kill that noise. Dueces
Friday Feb 12, 2010 10:01:35 PM
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Real Talk:
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@ Brownsugar, good post my dude. Keep'em coming, yousa asset to the site. Aight! Dueces
Friday Feb 12, 2010 10:02:54 PM
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riverside:
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Mosley is amazing 38 years old and still going strong
Friday Feb 12, 2010 10:51:18 PM
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kbb:
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Moselys fight with Margarito is no good indicator. Magarito did not have his head in that fight. He had just been caught with illegal wraps 20 minutes before the fight. He was sleep walking and was a punching bag.
The Mayorga fight is a better indicator , Shane looked old and confused when mayorga boxed him. (Mayorga can't box worth a crap) He would have probably only won by split decision if he hadn't knocked him out with 5 seconds left.
Shane ducked Clotty (high risk low reward) Clotty probably would have destroyed him!
Clottys fights against Corrales , Baldomir (although he DQ'D for head butting) and Judah were much more impressive than Floyds .
He was a broken hand, two accidental headbutts and a controversial split decision robbery against Cotto from being undefeated. Pacquiao has balls for stepping into the ring 20 pounds lighter than him on fight night.
Floyd will pot shop and run away from Shane all night long. It will be another tango and you'll go home feeling cheated again. Its worth the 47 PPV dollars if ya get 6 friends to pitch in. Just be ready to simultaneously watch sports center on the split screen or ya might fall asleep.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 11:01:42 PM
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brownsugar@RealTalk:
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thanks,.. this is going to be a hell of a fight.....
Friday Feb 12, 2010 11:02:44 PM
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kountedout:
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no disrespect to nazim richardson, i think it was more so of the times mosley sparred margarito in the gym then the plan of nazim. mosley had sparred margarito in gyms lots of times so he was very comfortable with margarito and the ultimate confidence fighting him. mosley hadn't sparred with cotto and u cotto did things to mosley. i expect floyd to do the same to mosley what cotto did and more.
Friday Feb 12, 2010 11:11:16 PM
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Smiley C:
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School of really dumb is at it again. Sparring is sparring, not fighting. Nazim Richardson made the different. How many fighters whooped the hell out of other fighters in sparring but couldn't do it in real life? Where did you learn about boxing? On playstation fo' sure!
Friday Feb 12, 2010 11:31:34 PM
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Isaiah:
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This is a very tough fight for both men. I'm obviously pulling for Mosley in this, but for Shane too pull this off, it's going to take everything he has to do this. At this stage in their careers Mayweather is a little faster than Mosley, so Mosley needs to fight off the potshots Floyd will fire off while he's backing up and get on the inside. Mosley unloading to the body when he can, countering Floyd's speed with the timing of a jab and simply combining the perfect combo of roughhouse tactics jabs taking away the timing of Floyd will win Mosley this fight. Mayweather demands pure boxing, fast hands and footwork at his pace. Mosley must neutralize this and he can by his timing Floyd's speed down to the T and basically copying what Oscar De La Hoya did right, but with more accuracy and power. Mosley will have to eat some shots from super fast Mayweather to do this, but it can be done and Shane would be the man to pull it off and shock thw world one more time. YOU CAN DO IT SHANE!!!
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 12:04:42 AM
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I agree with Yuvie on this one. I feel Floyd will win by UD. Shane is gonna bring it and he will have his moments but Floyd is great at fighting guys who take it right to him.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 12:15:53 AM
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As things stand now, I have Floyd winning this one unless Shane replaces Richardson with Ponce de Leon; or at minimum tries to find his water distributer. I say that simply because I believe Shane has seen better days. Now, he absolutely deserves this fight. He earned it. In fact, he should have been matched and rewarded (by GBP) much sooner for his achievement last year against Margarito. But that was Margarito and that was last year. The Shane Mosely that had fought and beat Mayorga but lost to Cotto was the Shane Mosely most expected to see and possibly get hurt by Margarito. Credit due to Shane to choosing Nazeem.... and to Nazeem for training Shane. They worked together beautifully to get the most from Shane against a dangerous but limited fighter and they succeeded magnificently. But Floyd is no Margarito. And it is highly doubtful.... although not impossible.... that the Shane Mosely who once carried the Sugar before his name is the same Shane Mosely. I am and have always been a great admirer of SSM. F-Lo' observations about Shane's speech actually saddens me. It does not bode well for this gallant man. That said, I absolutely expect a great effort and hope to see a great fight. And may the better man win this May. No excuses.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 12:19:03 AM
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@Bri...with all due respect to you Bri, Penn's name is not PJ, It's BJ...lol...when it comes to Floyd, it's funny that Floyd's fans think he is already the toughest fighter among welters eventhough he's yet to be tested by the elites in that division. Yes maybe in lower division he looks great but in welterweight, naah...he can't even finish JJM given the fact the he cheated even before the fight started...Floyd is a cheater period.
@Real Talk...are you kidding dude?...Paul Williams is a 6'1 hitter with a reach longer than the heavyweights...even a 5'10 (not sure) Oscar made Floyd look really problematic..Floyd can potshot smaller men but you can't do that with bigger man...Floyd looks good ONLY with smaller man period
Mosley will win this fight only if he can keep Floyd under pressure...Floyd ain't good when it comes to pressure, he doesn't look good in trading punches with bigger guys that's the reason why he became a defensive fighter. He ain't going there trading punches that's why he is choosing fighters that will not give him so much trouble.
I give Floyd a thumb's up signing the contract to fight Shane though I know he was just d to signed due to circumstances and of course, there's no other choice left for him. Floyd got a big chance in winning this fight only if Shane will not be the same Shane who gave Margarito a boxing lesson.
This will be a boring fight for the fans out there hopefully Shane can bring it to Floyd and force him to fight but if he cannot, I see a lot of people walking away from the fight and continuing what they are supposed to be doing, lol
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 12:50:45 AM
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ali @ Brownsugar:
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You made alot of great points but the one point that stuck out to me.is when ..... You said Mosley fights with the belief that he'll be able to hit his opponents more or harder....That Sh*IT IS SUPER TRUE.....He does that in every fight... The haters need to go watch when he lost to WInky. Cotto, Forest, all are good as fighter but nine are as good a Mayweather and Mosley will find out why I say that May 1
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 02:29:36 AM
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i was actually wondering if everyone here see how floyd could loose this fight against mosley. mosley has speed and arm length. he is heavy yet fast. in comparison to dela hoya mosley is better. he manage to KO margarito in the later rounds that cotto failed to do. floyd doesnt have the power to knock out mosley, he may play every round to his advantage but not to the point of destroying mosley. floyds inability to knock his opponent is floyds loophole while mosley has talent for it. wearing down mosley is not possible for floyd, he cant outbox mosley, though may sr insisted he can. (i dont believe everything may sr says at all). you may praise floyd for his talents, but talents not fully tested in every way isnt excellent talent. floyds cherry picking his opponent dont show his real weakness and strenght. he may look good because his opponents are slow and weak but facing better and bigger ones may change his career.
at this moment. its only fair for me to say, this is the time for floyd to truly show if he really is the best... but for now. i would look up to mosleys favor against floyd.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 02:50:37 AM
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El Maromero:
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u guys are right. Mosley lost to solid boxers, even Cotto is a good boxer but he has poor stamina. Mayweather has more technical skills than anyone that has defeated Mosley. I expect Nazeem to have something up his sleeve cause that dude is a genius. He communicates his logical thinking so clearly, it seemed like these two had been together for a few fights because of their great chemistry. I have a feeling that Floyd will show us his heart when he gets in there with that legend
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 05:09:25 AM
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El Maromero:
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show us his heart for the 1st time
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 05:10:54 AM
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DRMULLEN:
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Can't wait for this fight.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 05:51:45 AM
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brownsugar@ali:
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thanks ali,... even when Mosley loses,.. he's the most confident fighter in the ring,... after Winky beat him convincingly he was still, confident he would turn things around,..certainly nothing wrong with that,..Shanes got no quit in him,..and if he loses,..Shane gets right back up,.. sticks his chest out and tries it again,... but he's been known to lose focus,..People who know boxing,.. know that Floyd has a chin and plenty heart,.. combined with an explosive offence... that's why so many fans love to watch him,.. I don't think he will dissappoint...
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 05:55:01 AM
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brownsugar:
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do you remember when Shane lost to Vernon,.. it became such a sore spot for him that he got himself a bad rep as being a very bitter and toxic person,..arguing the loss for years afterward,... the media began to shun him and he got a lot of bad write-ups,.. took him a while but he finally returned to the classy and positive Shane we all know today,..after initially turning away many fans,......eating that loss was the hardest thing that Shane ever accomplished...
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 06:10:53 AM
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JZZY:
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Mosley will have his moments, but @ 38, there's not enough in the tank. Duckweather's best days are behind him, his lack of
heart and fear of getting hit will be his undoing when he faces the boxing fans favorite warrior, a man who could've competed at the top in any era, PACMAN!!!!!
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 07:58:42 AM
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flyty:
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All PEDs aside, many athletes have actually gotten better with age this past decade. Lets not forget about bernard hopkins, lance armstrong, and a slew of olympians, that made their greatest impact after turning 30 and beyond. Advancements in training, nutrition, and overall strategy are key. Dont count out sugar shane.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 12:22:38 PM
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Anony @ Real Talk:
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I GOT TO DISAGREE WITH YOU DUDE... Carlos Quintana is the only fighter who dominated Williams and he did it with lateral movements and hooking the man over the top where nobody have tried before. Every one who faces Williams finds it very difficult to cross those long arms with a jab. It's a fact. Floyd will be no exception. And like I said... Floyd is a chicken boxer who doesn't risk to brawl.. if powerful punchers like Shane, Paul or Cotto overwhelm him in the first rounds.. he will kiss the floor. It's the only way to win him. Using his fear against him and hit him hard and bad. Whooping him like if the fight was for only four rounds. I'm no boxing writer or coach but I have studied Floyd long enough. I know what I'm saying.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 04:03:31 PM
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Real Talk hungry as ever:
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@ Chips Ahoy, Paul Williams is inacurate with his punches, most volume punchers are. P. W. has been getting sloppy with his technique in the last 2 years.Maybe it's lack of quality opponents or who knows. He got whooped in that last fight by Sergio Martinez and got a gift decision if you ask me. His jab is bad....period. You got to have a good jab to compete with Floyd...period. Paul Williams doesn't use his height correctly, he leans in, he likes to fight on the inside when he aint suppose to. Floyd on the other hand thrives from pressure, almost every opponent he's had put the pressure on him...at least tried to. I mean what else are you going to do, play the thinking mans game. I don't know what fighter you were watching, go to youtube and watch some of his old fights. Floyd doesn't trade with any fighter, true master boxers don't trade punches. If you catch'em you catch'em. You ever seen Hopkins trade punches, their game is on another level. That's enough of that. B-Sug anytime...what it do. Dueces
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 04:06:02 PM
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Real Talk @ Anony:
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Floyd's style is taylor made to take P.W. apart. He would land less punches than ever b4 in his career. Floyd is a master technician and you've been drinking too much of the Koolaid up in here for to long. Floyd doesn't risk to brawl, he let's hands go accurately when it matters most. Precision punching, wasting little to no energy. Economical with the offense, calculating, strategizing, setting traps, adjusting, constantly sizing up his opponent for signs of weakness. Your gameplan for fighting Floyd is a fools recipe for disaster. I know Floyd wished everybody tried to fight him like that. That's exactly what he wants. So he can constantly, surgically, systematically take you apart, break you down or let you do it to yourself. Your fighter would lose 100 out of 100 times. I like how you tried to slide Cotto up in there. Your opinions took a dive after that last post. You mean to tell me you honestly think Cotto can beat Mayweather. Bob Arum fed Cotto to Pac and will try to fead the entire 147 to Pac before Floyd can get his hands on them. I'm not going to do too much in this post. Yell at me!!!
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 04:27:19 PM
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Anony @ Real Talk:
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Dude... let's see what happens against Shane... If F-lo is right... then Master Nazeem Richardson knows what I'm saying and you will se my master plan in action and working. I WILL REPEAT IT AGAIN SO ONE DAY, IF FLOYD GOES DOWN, YOU'LL REMEMBER ME. The only way to win Floyd Mayweather is to overwhelm him and make it a brawl, make him acknowledge the time to loose has come and mental pressure commanded by furious attacks from the opening bell. And I'm not saying Floyd will not land but that's the way to play him. And.. truly... I believe Cotto or Paul Williams can break Floyd apart as described. You all think Cotto got soft but for the record he was winning the fight against the cheater Margarito and fall because of the bricks who got hardened as the fight went on. Put your face in front of those gloves and tell me how tough is Cotto again... and against Pacquiao... well, now the boxing world speculates about his fear for needles... See?.. don't underrate my countryman because he might be the REAL P4P. Not in the books but in the minds of people like Margarito and Pacquiao who are the only ones who knows the truth. One day these words might shake the boxing world and Cotto will be rewarded. Look what happened to Luis Resto... he had to tell about it to get redeemed... that could happen to Margarito and the great Pacquiao. And for the record I hope Pacquiao was and is clean.... I will hate to see him fall like that and to embarrass his Pinoy brothers. But if he keeps running away from needles.. well... .... .... his word ain't good enough for me.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 04:48:01 PM
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Fe'Roz @ Brownsugar:
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You think losing to Forrest was tough, Sheeeaaat, How about losing to your wife/manager in divorce court? That, I'd wager, is the deepest cut of all. And the greatest loss.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 06:19:17 PM
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bob:
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Im so sick of hearing hoiw great mayweather looked against marquez. Marquez belonged two and a half weight classes below the not so mighty mayweather. Stop mythologizing this guy. He didnt even beat delahoya and every pay per view bonanza he was in was a success because of the opponent, not him.
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 08:26:55 PM
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Real Talk @ Feroz:
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@ Feroz...my dude you aint never lied. That was the worst loss that Shane may never recover from. I don't know the details but it get's ugly. @ Anony, your recipe of puttin the pressure on Floyd is exactly what he wants, use maximum energy and effort and get minimum returns, little to nothing. When you try to get a breather shyt gets deeper. The hands touch your frame and frustrates your brain.I got nothing but respect for coach Naz, but Mosley has to execute the plan. Then again what plan? The first Castillo fight when Floyd ripped his shoulder and hurt his hand? That was a totally different Floyd an a injured Floyd. The De la Hoya fight? Was that Oscar with an effective jab or was that the Matwaether gameplan to make him run out of gas? You can come up with a goos gameplan but executing the gameplan is another thing...especially against speed, How do you fight water, how do you gameplan against a chamileon who has more styles than a little bit? It sounds good and styles make fights, I think I'm seeing thiings you haven;t picked up on yet. Cotto? You mean to tell me you'd put your hard earned bread up on Cotto verses Mayweather. Yeah...sure buddy. Dueces
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 09:12:34 PM
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Real Talk @ brownsugar:
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Aint that the truth! You aint never lied. This wil be a helluva fight my dude! Dueces
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 09:15:14 PM
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swift:
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Everyone is so concerned with what Shane has to do, but I think people should be concerned with what Floyd will do. Think about it, Shane has fought just about every style there is, Floyd doesn't have the reach of a Vernon Forrest or size of Winky. I still don't think Mosley lost to Cotto, but that's me. Mayweather is not going to sit there and pot shot Mosley, so what's going to happen? Your going to see something similiar to the Judah fight, but the difference is Mosley's mind is much tougher. This time when Mayweather falls behind because of lack of punches he will get out-hustled and lose a close decision. One thing people forget is Mosley's age means nothing! The reason why Mosley and Hopkins can fight at such an advanced age is because they have never went anywhere. They train the same way, like they were 25. The problem with guys who get older is a lot of them take time off like an Ali or Holmes. Some of you think Mosley is going to be an easy out for Mayweather, but you have a big surprise coming to you on May 1...
Saturday Feb 13, 2010 11:37:51 PM
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EM@Kounted:
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What is the matter with you? How many times do I have to say Chill Out????
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 12:25:49 AM
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teaser:
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mosley will need his "A" game to beat floyd...he will have to fight and bring it to him for 12 rounds...can he get in position to have floyd feel his power and give him respect or will it be just a mayyter of time until floyd figures him out and " times" sugar ? and i can see floyd frustrating mosley and maybe getting in that unseen punch for that confidence sapping flash knockdown....if sugar can deal with that (something he hasn't done in the past...) he has a chance to impose his formidible will and decision floyd....gonna be a great fight cause either way floyd will be forced to be his best and that's great for boxing
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 12:48:44 AM
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kountedout@EM:
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what is the matter with me?? Dude why is it that u cant see this idiot smiley c. do you bypass all of his comments and just look at mines. why don't you look at his comments and he keeps calling me someone im not an anytime i make some comment he has some stupid crap to say. i tried to ignore him man but whats up with u on that? are you protecting him? i try to talk boxing to only the ones that i know that knows boxing on this site and this idiot keeps on with his lame comments. u have never said anything to him, u tell me why? im not trying to disrespect anybody here but why are u asking me to chill out but u dont say nothing to him.why?
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 01:13:23 AM
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kountedout@EM:
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smiley c and the saint has already showed that they are racist and yet u ask me to chill out and say what is the matter with me. man im no kid and i ask u not to talk to me in such manner and i havent done anything u need to talk to them like that not me. nobody disrespects me whether u are in person or on the internet. dont ask me to chill out when u dont do the same to them.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 01:18:10 AM
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El Maromero:
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Who in here thinks that Richardson has the potential to make a winning strategy for Mosley? and its not a simple pressure offence like Anony says.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 04:37:00 AM
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Castro@kountedout:
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Whats up man? I don't see where the saint or smiley c said anything about you this time. Did they say it on another story? Don't let them get you paranoid man. It ain't worth it.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 09:25:03 AM
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EM@Kounted:
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Because you consistently escalate matters, into a whole nother realm. Smiley, you too...stop escalating. I want this forum to be a respectful place. You guys are bringing it down when you get so personal and nasty. And you are disrespecting me and TSS, big time.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 10:09:36 AM
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brownsugar@Fe'Roz:
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Your right,...I don't think anything compares to that kind of loss,.. kind of like losing the arm you write with,... you never quite forget that it's gone,...but I give him credit for having the maturity for not taking it public...like he did with his grievance regarding the Forrest fight....maybe he's matured enough to follow Nazim's instructions too,...I'm certainly not counting Mosley out,..Floyd will have to train in such a way that he outclasses Mosley in every department...except maybe power,.. but he has enough leverage and speed to make up for that...even at 147 Floyds not a powder-puff hitter,.. he rocked the concrete chinned Baldomir and had Zab ready to go before he was low-blowed...
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 11:09:16 AM
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Isaiah:
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In all fairness, Mayweather's power isn't exceptional, but it's decent. If we're bringing up his welterweight resume though, let's only mention Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir though as brownsugar did because everyone should know how I feel about the refering in that fight with Ricky Hatton, (A.K.A. Joe "should have been fired Cortez) and we all know the Juan Manuel Marquez fight was BS. Don't tell me your're a welterweight who's still the greatest fighter on the planet and your comeback fight is against the lightweight champ. Yeah, whatever! Anyway, I will agree that Floyd did dominate Baldomir, but did not knock him down if everyone will agree that in the Zab Judah fight, that Floyd Mayweather did get knocked down against Zab even if Zab didn't get credit for it,. I mean the glove touched the canvass, what more do you need?! Also in the Zab fight, Zab was ahead half way through, but that punk just can't stay focused for nothing! Yeah, Mayweather gets credit for that win. Now then, that is Mayweather's best welterweight fight to date right? Guess what? Zab may be a little faster than Mosley, but Mosley is better in everything else including mental strength and will not fold when the going gets tough. Mayweather better be ready, because Shane is knows that his time is running out and his not playing! Shane Mosley has high skills in all areas, so all I'm saying is, WATCH OUT MAYWEATHER!
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 02:09:10 PM
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Smiley C:
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Dangit! I'm addressing school of lost his damn mind! Whatever else I don't know, except I see my name in a knucklehead's post every now and then. I didn't @ that reader. Is he Schools of...? He said NO! So why doesn't he shut the hell up and let School of Hard Knocks respond to yours truly. He must be paranoid with a guilty conscience or some crazy senile $hit. Maybe the old guy has the full-blown Alzheimer's disease fo' sure!
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 02:36:52 PM
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kountedout@EM:
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what are you talking about i escalate things. its a 2 way street. now im the only one that causes trouble here. when someone talks to me crazy and i try and ignore it im wrong and when they keep it up im going to say something to them. u have no right to tell me that im escalating anything. @smiley c why do you play little childish games. i am fed up with all ur stupid ignorant stuff. I will handle u in another way dont worry. call me all the school of hard knocks u want okay. ur such a kid, if you are talking to school of hard knocks and he's not on here then why do you bring his name up? the editor lets u and some others do whatever u want until it gets out of hand then they come to the wrong person.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 03:44:20 PM
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Donnie Love:
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I was going to start writting serious thought but this writter doesn't have accurate information. Floyd is one inch shorter than mosley and has 2 inch less reach. He's also an overall smaller guy. He's much weaker, very less power. His chin isnt too great (Demarcus Corley rocked floyd twice). Mosley has much more exp when it comes to Elite fighters. He knows how he can loss and that's being outboxed, Floyd never exp losing since his Amateur Career. Oscar made Floyd throw less with just pressure, zab landed and made floyd uncomfortable. Mosley is both combined times 2. He will land, and it will wear down floyd. He knows to grab him, wear him down with his strength and size. IF Floyd isnt on point in this fight than he WILL lose. Run Forrest RUN!
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 04:12:30 PM
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Eastar:
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The Mosley that's going to show up is the same Mosley that always shows up. THe one with the big, easy target for a head that Forrest, Wright, DeLa Hoya, and even Mayorga found easy to hit. The only chance Shane has is to overpower Floyd and keep the pressure on the 'Money' man just like Dela Hoya did. Peace!
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 04:23:52 PM
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Anony@Eastar:
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FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I AGREE WITH YOU... pressure and bullying Floyd will do the trick.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 05:00:19 PM
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kountedout@Eastar:
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i agree with u but there is no one out there that can over power floyd or bully floyd. in order to be a bully u are going to have to throw a lot of punches. who do you think can do that over 12 rounds? what u said is very important bc all of those guys did hit shane and its not like he has gotten faster or his head movement is better. floyd imo is going to pick him apart
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 05:13:45 PM
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Isaiah:
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If there's a man at 147 that can make bullying Floyd actually work, that man would be Shane Mosley. I guess we'll wait and see. @kountedout. That double standard they have in here for the insane and "internet thugs" is extremly annoying isn't it? Wait, let me guess Smiley's response to me... "The rev is trippin and he spelled a word wrong. I have nothing better to do with my life. Whoopdedoo! Now let me misquote some bible and add in curse words to it." I may misspell a word, but he will be a fool forever.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 05:27:03 PM
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Anony @ street fighters here:
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GUYS.. EVERYONE SHOULD CHILL... I UNDERSTAND KOUNTEDOUT BECAUSE "it seems" like EM is "protecting" somebody but it is not like that. I come to understand that EM SCANS through the comments in every article but he doesn't have the time to actually read every word we post. If he do that then his wife will throw his a$$ of the house because he will be reading all the crap we post until 2am every day. So, KOUNTED OUT... it is nothing personal dude and please keep posting, you do make great comments. And SMILEY C... dude... you always get mixed with brawlers here..WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? CHILL!!!... TSS does looks better when the fight is clean.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 05:54:41 PM
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EM:
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Anony is a sharp one. He is right..I have to scan..I can't pore over every screed, or else the wife would indeed sentence me to the sofa infinitely. That's why when people continue with the bad language, and challenges to fight and all that, I take it personally..because bottom line, it detracts from my family time. Some may say hey, cry me a river dude. But believe you me, I ain't getting rich of this. I do it yes, because I get paid, but also because I love TSS, and love this comment community...so I ask again, please keep it clean and classy. Thanks guys..
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 08:15:45 PM
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Chuck Norris:
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Here's a little tidbit about Manny Pacquiao I thought you all might enjoy. If you look up how many days were between Manny's blood test for the Ricky Hatton fight and when that fight night was, you'll find out there was actually 24 days between that time and fight night, NOT 14 days! Don't you just love the lies of the Mayweathers? I bet KenDUCKy Floyd Chicken will stay in business and duck Mosley at the last second to. Buck, buck, son. Floyd's head is kind of big, he MUST be on steroids! Someone needs to outlaw Xylocaine in Nevada beacause cheating is cheating whether is acceptable to use right there or not. FREAKIN CHICKEN FLOYD!
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 08:46:13 PM
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Promoter the Roast King:
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To those who want to rumble, take a cue from my clients Robert Curtis and Mortcola. These two know how to mix it up without stupid threats of violence that will never actually happen. Use your wit. Throw out some big words that nobody knows what they mean. There is a better way people. Meanwhile dont forget to tune in to TSS following the Wlad vs Chambers fight for the rematch, ROBERT CURTIS VS MORTCOLA, THE RETURN OF THE PLUMMY BASTARDS.
Sunday Feb 14, 2010 10:02:55 PM
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MobetterMD:
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Interesting article and comments. As a physician that has seen Shane professionally several times over the past two years, your slur factor should not be taken out of context. I think thats a reach and will not be a factor in this equation.
As we talked the morning of the Mayorga fight I notice that speech pattern myself and expressed my concern to him and his then trainer his dad,Jack. They both said that Shane would be fine and not to worry. After watching that fight at ringside I wondered what was wrong with Shane. He didn't look anything like he did in training camp. After the fight he explained that he worn new shoes and developed blisters on his feet in about the 4 round and could hardly walk after the fight. But again he was able to overcome and stop Mayorga.
The Margarito fight was one I thought he should not have taken and I asked him why. He knew why he took the fight and told me exactly what he was going to do to win.
This fight, at the end of the day, will come down to one thing, and thats mental toughness. Who ever brakes the will of the other will win. I have known Shane for some time and I
ve seen him deal with things most fans don't have a clue about. My money's on Shane, his will won't be broken it will be interesting to see how Floyd deals with the mental aspect of potentially losing this fight in the later rounds. How will he response? Will he come out of his shell and go for broke? If so he will make mistakes and it'll only get more out of hand. Floyd has never been down that road of potentially losing a fight so let's see.
I'm looking forward to a great fight.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 12:29:09 AM
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kountedout@Isaiah and Anony:
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No doubt it seems like a double standard here but i do understand what anony said and i can see what he means. im going to keep on posting and thanx for the comments. but when i have to spend time trying to blast readers rather then make them understand how i view boxing then that is when im going to leave boxing alone bc that means that im not talking boxing, rather im trying to get some kind of attention.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 03:57:35 AM
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JZZY:
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Petty Boy continues to run his mouth like he runs in the ring. Pac
don't need him or the baggage he brings. Pac has plenty of options for future fights and after this year, he'll follow Freddy's
advice and retire from boxing. The fight fans see right thru Ducky
Boy's smoke screen, lets all hope Shane puts this punk out of boxing for good.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 07:00:09 AM
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What I see:
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Somebody got worms for brains because they are slimy and wiggling all over the damn place fo' sure!
Monday Feb 15, 2010 10:36:40 AM
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Fe'Roz:
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For anyone interested in a website that is edited as poorly as a Lawrence Cole fight in Texas hop on over to Fighthype and join the brawl. For those of us who prefer elite fight commentary and insight monitored by the Arthur Mercante of editors, Michael Woods, you're in the place to be. Let's keep the BS off this site and keep this ring for the real thing.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 12:02:05 PM
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Rashawn D:
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Fighthype got some nice boxing info and interviews on it. You can join whatever readers' brawl that you like, but you can also read some fair balance fightnews about every single fighter, manager, trainer, promoter, elc., etc. Their is no favoritism for certain fighters, promoters or trainers. Fighthype reports the smart $hit and the stupid $hit. This site intentionally censors out controversial statements and issues. This site is not reporting half of the crazy or good stuff that is going on in boxing. It probably won't let my post stay up like it has done Feroz. He is a good writer, but every once and a while he is dead wrong and gets "elite fight commentary and insight monitored"...mixed up with pure censorship and biases.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 01:13:59 PM
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RED:
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I agree with F-LO's basic premise. I am on the record choosing Floyd. After all, Shane was Floyd's hand picked foe. We all know how Floyd choreographs his fights. This go around will not be any different. Sugar Shane Mosely: A powerful name that in 2010 has more name than power. Bravo for Floyd. He finally decided to take on the best there was out there. Oh, wait a minute. Hey, Floyd, I forgot about that Filipino guy. What's his name again? You know, the one who's suing you for libel based on your unsubstantiated allegations of PED use. Nah, never mind. I'll ask Ron Borges for his name.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 01:19:18 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Fighthype is a fine website. Their news and interviews are excellent. Where they fail is in their commentary section. They allow the their readers the lowest form of conversation ....and I'm being generous.... and in doing so short sell themselves. I for one leave the site immediately after reading their content; not caring much for preposterous schoolyard challenges over the Internet. But as I said, to each their own. I would like to see TSS maintained as a respectful forum for all. I'm sure my brothers here agree.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 03:05:10 PM
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Rashawn D:
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I see your point, Feroz. You are right. Fighthype may need to do a better job of censoring and managing the commentary section or warn readers about it. Vulgarity and schoolyard challenges are tampering with the overall mission to inform and entertainment.
Monday Feb 15, 2010 04:22:50 PM
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Fe'Roz @ Rashawn D:
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Much respect. pc
Monday Feb 15, 2010 09:56:15 PM
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SUGARFANATIC:
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@in touch, I have to disagree (in some degree) with you. First pressuring only with jab (and straight punch) will not be enough for great(?) mayweather. once SugarShane backs up mayweather with the jab (that is, from outside) then, he has to move in with rampage combinations (that is, unload) and rough him up, that includes push and pull and everything. one more thing you said that over-hand-right will not work (due to mayweather's shoulder roll... WRONG! why? once inside Sugar has to unload that educated right hand, that is to say, when mayweather uses the shoulder rolls Sugar must hit him on the temple (leftside), on the ear and right behind the ear and you know that's a fair punch (not illegal rabbit punch) so that mayweather will run into deadly double lefts (hooks and uppercuts) inorder to avoid the right and that will only happen when he works with both hand, not just lefts, you see. if you want to hit mayweather with rights then you have to throw lefts and if you want to hit him with lefts then you must throw rights. why? because he will move away from the right and run into left (vise a versa). SET UP~! It is not a contradiction just like we call that square-ring..... yes.
Tuesday Feb 16, 2010 10:42:20 AM
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Silent P:
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This is going to be a good fight and is going to come down to who get's caught first. Who ever lands the first big shot is walking away with the victory. I'm leaning towards Mayweather, but could definitly see Mosley pulling out another big win. Either way, he finally gets paid!
Tuesday Feb 16, 2010 04:48:03 PM
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BNME:
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It's funny how every blogger on this post knows the keys to beating an undefeated fighter Mosley was a great fighter and a champion. He takes a bad beaten and walks way from the sport come May 1st Thank you Shane for the many exciting fights All hats off for the Green eyed Monster
Wednesday Feb 17, 2010 04:08:19 PM
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MorganBucks:
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The Left hook will knock out Mayweather just the the other Sugar beat PaPa Mayweathers peekaboo defense.
Floyds defense is flawed by a fast left hook.
Mosley has that in spades
Sunday Feb 21, 2010 06:39:40 PM
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ramz:
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floyd is a great fighter mosley is a great fighter with that being said i think its going to come down to who wants it more. shane will get hit alot in this fight but if he is able to time floyd when floyd jumps in with that potshot left hook and counter floyd with his own left hook the same one that knock out vargas then it could be good night for floyd. yes i understand that floyd tucks his chin but if you look at were mosley placed that left hook on vargas then you will see that tucking your chin wont make a difference. the hook landed on vargas left side of his face.....based on my gut feeling that this fight has the holyfield tyson thing where holyfield was suppose to be to old and he beat mikes ass,,,tarver jones where tarver just knew something about jones that everybody else didnt, im going with shane by split dec or a vicious tko
Thursday Apr 1, 2010 12:55:22 PM
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You Have To Take The Test To Be Called The Best
"People can say whatever they like about Floyd Mayweather Jr....and they will....but they can never say the man challenges himself to be the best." ---TSS All-Star reader El Feroz weighs in on who he thinks is at blame for the Manny-Money negotiation flameout
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