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Sunday Feb 7, 2010


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The US Audience Finally Gets a Look At Edwin Valero

By Frank Lotierzo

Few fighters have had as many controversies swirling around them going into a fight as WBC lightweight champion Edwin Valero 26-0 (26) had prior to the second defense of his WBC lightweight title, against interim titlist Antonio DeMarco 23-1-1 (17).  For starters, opinions varied wildly as to his merits as a fighter. To some, the Venezuelan southpaw was one of boxing's most destructive forces, an all offense machine with highlight reel power.  Certainly his record of uninterrupted kayos gives that viewpoint some validity. To others, he was a clumsy beginner with no discernible skill, no balance, a fighter whose knockouts were more a testament to good matchmaking than an indication of what kind of pop his punches have.  To further add to the mysteries surrounding him, Valero had undergone a lengthy suspension in the United States after a 2001 motorcycle accident had allegedly caused him brain damage.  A DUI in Nevada in 2003 further helped to keep him on the shelf in the US.  His Showtime sponsored title defense took place in Monterrey, Mexico.  Most of his fights have taken place in Japan, where his promoters and sponsors are based, and in Venezuela. 


Antonio DeMarco, on the other hand, was a known quantity:  Seen as a solid guy who could fight, he's not a star, but is an honest test for anyone looking to build his reputation.  DeMarco is not the kind of fighter that gets beat accidentally by a bum. 


A lot of the intrigue leading up to the fight was based on the question of how legit Valero is.  If he could beat DeMarco, one of the two camps judging him would, seemingly, be wrong.


It turned out that Valero did beat DeMarco.  It also turned out that not one camp was wrong, but both. 


For the record, in the second round Edwin Valero overcame a horrendous gash to his forehead, caused by an errant elbow, to completely dominate Antonio DeMarco, forcing him to quit in his corner after the ninth round.  Part of the problem with getting a  accurate read on Valero is that DeMarco's performance was so lethargic from the start that it's tough to know how much Edwin had to do with it. 


Here's what we can say with confidence about Valero:  He's not a big puncher.  He's a wide-throwing clubber who stays busy and, mostly through body strength, exerts pressure.  He makes some serious mistakes, like fighting with his mouth wide open and often neglecting to punch to the body.  His balance, once hopeless, has improved tremendously.  He's capable of taking a step back when he needs to, either when feeling under attack or when he wants to give himself more punching space.  He has a natural gift for moving his head out of the way of punches, a kind of lower grade radar.  Although his punches look ponderous, his hands aren't slow. He's neither the next big thing in boxing nor a fraud who doesn't deserve a look on the big stage. Two myths busted for the price of one. 


Actually, nothing much happened during the Valero-DeMarco fight.  By far the biggest drama was the cut caused by DeMarco's elbow, which caused Valero to fight the entire way with blood streaming down his face and body.  Between the blood and his snarl, Valero looked like a cinematic version of a prize fighter.  Showtime will have him back, of course.


The fight followed a bewildering pattern almost from the opening bell.  It was less bewildering from the Valero vantage point than from Antonio DeMarco's.  At 24, Tony was already a seasoned veteran, and he'd beaten some decent  if unspectacular fighters like Almazbek Raiymkulov, Anges Adjaho, and Jose Alfaro to get the Showtime gig.  In the ring before the fight, he appeared to be completely at ease, smiling at people and kissing his baby girl. 


That confidence extended through the beginning of the fight, where it looked as if he was waiting to see what Valero had, and for him to make a mistake.  Valero would stalk, throwing a steady stream of punches that DeMarco could see coming, and DeMarco would be in a position to counter-punch.  But he seldom did.  And that turned out to be the pattern of the fight.   The only thing that changed was DeMarco's demeanor, as his confidence drained.  Valero won every round.  


What's hard to determine was how much of this was just the interim champ DeMarco's lousy showing and how much of that showing was caused by Valero's pressure.


Valero's aggressiveness seemed somewhat predictable.  He throws his punches like someone throwing an overhand pitch, winging them from the outside.  They have weight, but not much power.  He keeps his hands near his sides between punches, and looks to be easy to hit.  But he naturally knows to move his head from shots (he seldom bothers to block any, and DeMarco ignored his body), and that kept him from being tested.  When DeMarco's elbow ripped his forehead wide open early in the second round, Edwin showed real poise, making sure that referee Laurence Cole recognized the cause of the cut, and then fighting on without concern. 


So although we now know some things we didn't about Edwin Valero, new questions have opened up.  He's probably got the heart of a fighter (although, because he had to face so little resistance, we can't know for sure), but I can't imagine him having the kind of success with Juan Manuel Marquez that he did with Antonio DeMarco.  At this point, a fight with Ali Funeka, who got a recent hard luck draw with Joan Guzman, might be a good test.  Or he could simply fight Guzman, who seems badly faded.  The fight I'd most like to see for him would be against the talented Englishman John Murray.  If he could win that one, it would answer the questions that Antonio DeMarco didn't help us figure out.

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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deepwater:  Ive been raving about valero since he was wiping out southern california gyms.appreciate him long as he lasts.He brings it every fight.besides pacman valero is the most exciting fighter.not the best boxer but the most exciting.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 07:32:10 AM
deepwater:  if you doubt his heart please review some of Valeros past fights on you tube,first one being the mosquera fight.put valero in against any of the champions and you will be at the edge of you seat for as long as it lasts.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 07:44:50 AM
Anony - suggesting an article:  WHAT IS INTERESTING TO NOTICE IS THAT A NEW CROP OF VERY EXCITING FIGHTERS ARE COMING UP... Valero, Juanma, Gamboa, Donaire, Khan, Andre Ward and many others are ready to fill the hole Hopkins, Jones, Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao and others will leave when they retire soon. So we have GREAT BOXING ahead guys!!!!! 2010 looks good but 2011 will be war all around!!!! TSS might want to put this into perspective and give us a list of the new crop vs. the soon to retire crop. It would be very interesting to compare how they are rising compared to the "oldies", etc.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 10:20:09 AM
uruk-hai:  This writer is too critical and relays too much negativity. This aint a PBF borefest where HIS OWN FANS BOO HIM AND WALKOUT ON HIM. The fact that Valero threw 90 punches per round and landed 30 percent of it against a guy who's considered a top fighter just about says it all regarding the stock of Valero.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 11:50:17 AM
redman:  Valero v Murray would be a great fight especially if Valero could come to the UK. I think a fight against Bradley would be a sensible move as Valero is apparently struggling to make the weight at lightweight. If Valero could beat Bradley that would make him a 3 weight world champion. If he could KO Bradley then he would be a P4P top ten fighter, surely.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 01:15:16 PM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  I hope Valero does succeed in the game but I just feel that he will fall in the same fate as Ortiz who was overly hyped. F-LO mentions Valero fighting John Murray, that is a great match-up. Two guys undefeated not having a notable name on their resume and very hungry. This would eliminate the pretender-to-real contender.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 01:20:52 PM
Fe'Roz :  I think F-Lo's measured assessment is just about right. Valero has his work cut out for him and regardless of whatever we think today we'll all get the pleasure of watching him do it. He is still raw in too many ways to know for certain whether he chooses the hard path of continuing to learn and hone his craft or simply continues to power his way as far as he can. I suspect a little of both.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 02:55:20 PM
brownsugar:  well said Fe'Roz,.....every fan wants to welcome the next big thing,.. like the next Tyson,.. or Wilfredo Gomez,.. someone with pure KO power,.. and the blood and guts attitude to get the job done,...a lot of fans like myself never knew what Valero was all about till saturday,.. and while he isn't the next Salvador Sanchez or Lupe Pintor,.. he's does have enough drive and ambition to keep things interesting,... his frame is not large enough to dominate at welterweight,... but there's a lot of fun fights to be had at 135 and 140,.. the top Junior welters can't wait to test him,.. In his zeal to create the next big attraction,.. I hope Arum gives Valero time to acclimate to the tougher challenges,.. one wrong matchup and dude will find himself on the comeback trail..real quick...
Monday Feb 8, 2010 04:58:41 PM
brownsugar:  just thought of something,.. Valero vs Hatton!! at 142lb catch weight.. love to see that one..
Monday Feb 8, 2010 05:04:18 PM
donputo69:  How about Valero vs Ortiz at 142lbs catchweight?....I guaranteed you this...SOMEBODY IS GETTING KTFO....holla back!!!
Monday Feb 8, 2010 05:24:51 PM
donputo69 @ Anony:  Well said...but i gotta disagree with one guy..."ANDRE WARD"...He's a bum...I see him getting KTFO IN 2010 OR EARLY 2011...Mark my words...holla back!!!....BTW...here at my top 5 underrated bums...1. scareweather...2. Ward...3. Klitschko brothers...4. Girlynaggi...5. Chad dawson....holla back!!!
Monday Feb 8, 2010 05:30:46 PM
Fe'Roz :  EM, Halt the presses !! TSS's Reader/Poster Extraordinaire Brownsugar is interested in seeing a fight fought at a Catchweight. With an emphasis on 'Catch'. And now the word is spreading like fire. The Don has caught on. Press erase/delete before F-Lo catches wind of it. Once the heat is allowed to intensify, this kind of talk can be .... Catching. pc
Monday Feb 8, 2010 05:39:38 PM
The Clone:  how about my idol Radam G vs #1PacFan? who would win that fight? Deuces!
Monday Feb 8, 2010 05:54:30 PM
brownsugar:  Fe'Roz,.. LOL,.. you need to be muzzled...
Monday Feb 8, 2010 06:25:12 PM
Mike M:  Valero is ready for prime time. Along with his quick hands and offense first /KO mentality he is true fighter. He showed poise in the face of adversity with that nasty cut and did not skip a beat but instead kept going in for the kill. He has that warrior mentality and is a fighter who i want to watch win or lose. He is cut from the Schoolboy Bobby Chacon/Danny (Little Red) Lopez cloth; those guys didn't get warmed up until they had a few cuts and blood all over the place. He is not an all offense fighter though, he has good defensive skills and steps out of trouble after getting his shots in. There are definite similarities to Pacquaio and he just needs to pass a couple more tests and maybe that fight could be made.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 06:41:48 PM
Isaiah:  I thought the 140 pound weight class was Hatton's natural fighting weight. Why would a fight between him and the smaller Valero need to be higher then that? That is some power going in that fight for sure though. Somebody would be getting KO'd big time in that fight no doubt. @the don. Hey man. The hate for Wussy Boy Strayweather and SissyNaggi, I can understand. I don't get calling the other dudes bums though. Andre Ward stepped his game up big time taking Kessler to school. I have to admit that. The Klitshcko brothers and Chad Dawson are taking out everybody in front of them. Dawson ain't got as much power as he should have, but he's still putting everybody to shame. No hate to ya. Just saying, what gives?
Monday Feb 8, 2010 08:32:12 PM
donputo69 @ isaiah:  lol...I respect your opinion....but thats mine opinion...Remember...The tournament is not over yet...lets see b1tc# ward take on king arthur or even allen green...But dont get me wrong, if overrated ward for somehow wins this tournament, i will give him his props...or should i say...my haterade will go down from 10 to 5...how about that?...holla back!!!
Monday Feb 8, 2010 08:44:24 PM
BROWN NOSE:  This guy must start from the bottom of the ladder with Rocky Juarez, Chris John, Juan Marquez for us to find out how strong his legs are against the veterans. Should he be able to make a statement for himself, then make him fight Cotto.
Monday Feb 8, 2010 09:01:14 PM
brownsugar@Isaiah:  cause Ricky's been unable to make 140 comfortably for years..
Monday Feb 8, 2010 11:53:13 PM
Kentucky Floyd Chicken:  That Edwin Valero is a big, mean, scary man. Shane Mosley is too big, mean and scary to. I think I'm going to claim another rib injury before April's up. By the way, try our specials. We also duck. Every chicken is randomly Olympic style blood tested and Xylocaine injected for your safety. Forget that fighting Mosley stuff. I don't know what I was thinking. My next opponent is Paulie Malignaggi as long as he wears 16 oz gloves. You all know how it is.I got to make sure nobody touches my girly face.
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 04:27:42 AM
HoBidness:  The path to Pacquiao for Valero. Valero Vs. Maidana in an all out slugfest at 140. You know this one will have all the fireworks and then some. If Valero wins, he get's mad respect across the board. Bypass Ortiz - the guy has no heart. Setup for a Bradley or J. Diaz showdown. Get past either of the two and onto JMM . If he can do to Marquez what Manny couldn't do, he'll definitely have a real shot at Pac. I don't see Hatton or Kahn taking on Valero - to much risk, low reward. Kahn's career is too calculated now and Hatton doesn't want to get seriously hurt. Definitely an exciting fighter and one to keep an eye on.
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 05:10:21 AM
El Maromero:  I bet anybody sum crow that it was Isaiah who did that last comment
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 06:20:21 AM
dp69 @KFC:  LMFAO...holla back!!!
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 07:06:20 AM
gabe:  Valero looked fantastic on Saturday, but, as he was fighting Tony DeMarco, he should've. DeMarco is not the caliber of opponent Gus Johnson -- shouting as usual -- made him out to be. I had DeMarco getting crushed on points by Adjaho several months back -- a fight the former won only because the latter -- not understanding the ref's English -- didn't stand up after being struck by what he thought was a foul blow. That Adjaho -- only a decent mover -- managed to box circles around DeMarco suggested Valero would, too. And let's not forget how well Valero took out Antonio Pitalua -- who, also contrary to Gus and Al's opinion on Showtime -- is not a nobody but a really talented fighter whom Valero had already neatly added to his victim list.
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 09:01:12 AM
Anony @ ABOUT WARD:  WELL I BELIEVE WARD WILL WIN THE SUPER-SIX AGAINST ABRAHAM.... who hasn't face yet the skills Ward has. Don't take me wrong, King Arthur is my second best choice but I believe Ward is very crafty and will impose himself against Arthur. As you can see I'm not counting on Froch, Kessler or Dirrel... and I don't know about Green but after seeing what Ward did against Kessler and Edison Miranda... well, pretty much I believe he has all the tools to impose on anybody. He reminds me a lot to Bernard Hopkins (skill-wise, holding when he needs to, perfectly timing his opponent, slippery, etc.) but ONLY BETTER AND MORE EXCITING TO WATCH THAN BERNARD. That's how high I think of him. After the Super six he can take on Pavlik. And I only have respect for Pavlik because he could win any of the Super Six fighters. A fight between them could only finish with a decision for Ward or a KO win for Pavlik.
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 10:03:14 AM
Isaiah:  @El Maromero. You'd be right. Remeber, at Kentucky Floyd's, we also serve Duck! Ha! @Donputo69. There's a rumor that Marvel Comics wants to make a comic book character based off of Floyd Mayweather. Xylocaine man! His powers will be to numb his body from all punishment, use his drug crazy dad to destroy someone's integrity, but it only works in front of sheep and to emit chicken sounds in front of boxers. His main villians will be the elderly and the local girl scout troops. His weakness will be a picture of Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquiao and never mind.... That would take too long.
Wednesday Feb 10, 2010 12:18:55 AM

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