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Tuesday Feb 2, 2010


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BORGES: You Can Send Margarito, Manny and Arum a Message

By Ron Borges


      The problem posed by Antonio Margarito is a complicated one and it has nothing to do with his skills inside a boxing ring and everything to do with what was found inside his hand wraps just over a year ago.

      The night he sat in his locker room at the Staples Center in Los Angeles and Shane Mosley’s trainer, Nazim Richardson, noticed what paid public officials hired to ferret out such things did not must forever change how he is perceived by boxing fans and the people inside his sport.

      What Richardson saw was something he didn’t like about his hand wraps, which were already in place. A dispute arose and eventually the hands were unwrapped and an illegal knuckle pad covered in what was later believed to be a plaster of paris like hardening agent  were discovered. How this could have happened with the state of California having inspectors allegedly in the room when a fighter’s hands are wrapped is baffling although sadly not unexpected.

      The larger issue is what happens now. Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo were suspended for a year by the California Commission, a suspension honored throughout the United States. Although Margarito’s bombastic promoter, Bob Arum, threatened to promote Margarito in Mexico, outside the U.S. commission’s jurisdiction, and tried to claim every sentence of the Bill of Rights had been violated, in this case the fact was his guy was guilty. And if he didn’t know it he should have become a Mob lawyer rather than a member of Robert Kennedy’s Justice Department after he left Harvard Law School. Wisely, Arum allowed Margarito to serve out his suspension without boxing.

      Now a year has passed and the word has come down that Arum is working to put Margarito on as the co-feature on the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey March 13 pay-per-view show at Cowboys Stadium outside of Dallas. This is a particularly interesting juxtaposition since the only reason Pacquiao is fighting Clottey that night is his own refusal to submit to effective random blood testing as part of a requirement to meet Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in a far bigger promotion on the same date.

      Despite all his best excuses, Pacquiao’s refusal has left him under a cloud of doubt about whether or not he used performance enhancing drugs including EPO, the blood doping drug. Pacquiao has never tested positive and insists he’s innocent. He may well be but that cloud over him only darkened last week when Shane Mosley, who has admitted to past PED and EPO use himself, agreed to the same testing procedures Pacquiao rejected.

      Now joining Pacquiao on that card, it appears, will be another fighter under a cloud, Margarito. Good thing there’s a retractable roof on Cowboys Stadium.

      A journeyman named Carson Jones (24-7-1, 15 KO) has agreed to face Margarito in what will be the biggest fight of his life. He’s there, of course, because he doesn’t figure to offer up much resistance to the former welterweight champion even after a year-long layoff. Yet even Jones admitted if he didn’t see this fight as an opportunity at a living wage for once he’d be a bit reluctant to get in with Margarito after he was caught wearing loaded hand wraps.

      The California Commission is quietly peeved that Margarito will not first stand before them before trying to fight in another state but they are powerless to do anything about it. Texas, which is best known for lousy judging and one-sided refereeing, seems set to approve Margarito’s re-licensing despite some odd statistics that make you wonder.

      The 31 year old Margarito is 25-3 with 17 knockouts yet in most cases such figures don’t inflate as you age in large part because the competition you begin to face improves considerably as you move up in the world of boxing. Yet Margarito is 12-3 with 10 KOs in his last 15 fights, a 66 per cent KO rate. Most troubling, he destroyed first Kermit Cintron, who had little trouble with anyone else before him yet took a one-sided beating that night, and later Miguel Cotto, to whom he gave the worst beating of his life. One fight later Margarito was found with loaded hand wraps.

      Although this is only circumstantial evidence up to the Mosley fight it is troubling in the extreme, especially after Mosley took him apart and was never hurt by him after his hands were re-wrapped without the brick in them.

      So now he wants to come back and fight and what do you do? Luis Resto, who was found to be wearing loaded gloves the night he beat the sight and in many ways the life out of Billy Collins, Jr., went to jail for what he was found to be a party to that evening. Antonio Margarito went on a siesta for a year, admitting nothing and technically never fighting with loaded gloves because they were discovered by Richardson before the fight. Now he wants to go back to work after serving his time.

      What do you do? The knee-jerk reaction is to deny him a license, essentially banning him for life, but California chose not to do that. This leaves Texas in the position of having a fighter whose suspension is over wanting to fight. They could say go back to California and deal with them first but would they have a legal right to do so?

      Perhaps, but the suspension is up and there’s no question Margarito is a proficient professional prize fighter. So, it would seem they almost have no choice but to license him.

      Fans however do have a choice. In this case they could stand up for fair play in boxing, something as rare as a investment banker being found to have a conscience, and refuse to buy the fight.

      Send a message to Antonio Margarito that you don’t like what he did, which frankly was try to endanger the life of his opponent more than is the norm in what is a brutal sport in the best of times.

      It would also send a message to Manny Pacquiao that if you are who you say you are what’s the harm in this fraudulent, steroid-ridden age of sports, in being asked to prove it?

      Perhaps the Texas Boxing Commission can’t do anything but license Antonio Margarito to fight. Perhaps Arum and HBO can’t do anything but promote the next fight of boxing’s most popular practitioner, Manny Pacquiao. But boxing fans have an option they often seem to forget.

      They can speak loudly with the only thing anyone in the sport hears. They can speak with their money and say this time, “Thanks but no thanks.’’

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Kulot:  How about the Xylophane (don't know the exact name) that Floyd M. is using as a protection for his brittle hands? That's illegal in other states except Las Vegas. Any comments?
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:16:41 AM
SALT lover:  I'm very glad TSS has at least one person that thinks straight, and doesn't go with his heart, like some other writers here (Who knows they're gonna have to eat all the words they wrote in 2009). Yes, I agree with this writin' 100%. I was a Margarito fan until he was proven guilty; I thought I was gonna be one no matter what, but definitely not anymore. I was just carried away by his win over Miguel Cotto, in a time where I had a huge dislike of Cotto's persona and his acid personality durin' his risin'. His win gave me such a happiness I owed to him my thanks, but not like this. Definitely the March 13th card has a huge dark cloud over it's Cowboys Stadium: Margarito's history, Texas "wonderful" judges, the unprofessional referees, and now, the perhaps soon-to-be discovered, Emmanuel Pacquiao (Who knows?). Definitely Arum's an interestin' character of his own in all of this. The way he behaved for Margarito says a whole lot about this old dude, and at what expenses he'll go just to defend his investments; even if it is at the cost of the well being of one of his own boys, like Miguel Cotto. There's no doubt in my mind, that if he knows Pacquiao's usin' and/or doin' anythin' illegal right now, he'll stay quiet and is prepared to defend his boy in any possible event where he gets caught and/or blown the whistle. Even if Pacquiao's proven a cheater, Arum will throw the towel on him; I'm very positive about that. This is exactly what's killin' boxin'. It's promoters like these sellin' lies and deception to the public, and then coverin' them up by insultin' others and attackin' them, in his case Floyd Mayweather Jr (40-0). It's promoters like these and incompetent Commission's like Nevada that are damagin' this sport I love so much, and I know some few do too. Not the Pacquiao fans; they are fans of one fighter, I'm talkin' about real, True fans of boxin'. The ones that unfortunately are not in this site, and are too busy to sit in a computer and express their thoughts and ideas. Instead we have here nerds and people who got lucky their country finally have somethin' big in the sport, and are badmouthin' anythin' that opposes them; all simply cuz their main man is on top, that's all. This is what the sport has become. I'm not gonna buy this card, and I'm not gonna praise UFC either to attack it either; that's a treasonous action right there, but definitely that card has a huge shadow all over the place.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:23:00 AM
SALT lover@Ron Borges:  I know you don't care what people here say, and that's good! Great! Stay like that, man. Don't change for anybody or anythin', but I have to express, thank you for being able to think for youself and being able to have such critical thinkin' and not fold under the fanatism thaty's runnin' insane in this time in boxin'. Keep doin' what you doin, and keep doin' everythin' you can possibly can as a writer to keep the sport clean, and it's integrity that unfortunately it ain't intact anymore. You are one of the very few writers that are doin' a great job, and know this: it's very possible that one day, when the Truth comes, you'll be proud of what you stood for, and other writers will have to eat all the things they wrote. they say it's dumb to accuse somebody without proof, that's True. But it's also dumb, and embarrassin' to praise somebody withouth the knowledge that he is not doin' nothin' wrong. Good work Borges! Keep it up!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:27:52 AM
Omar Olvera:  this is stupid.. how come you dont try to shame Shane; he used Steroids and it doesn't matter if he admitted to it, he still did something illegal, and could have kill Oscar. So how come you don't stand up against Shane Mosely??
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:31:35 AM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  Was it a year ago that most of the Mayweather fans was bashing at me for trying to ban a fight between Mayweather-Marquez? Now we have a Fightwriter trying to ban a fight between Pacquiao-Clottey. It's all good, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I wish they could've said the same for me when I said NO TO Mayweather-Marquez.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:33:48 AM
adriana:  Margarito was one of my favorite fighters. A true mexican warrior who would take a few to land one. He possibly has ruined the careers of Cintron & Cotto who he def softened up. Cintron has recouped somewhat but the Cotto beating was vicious. I knew Pacman was gonna get Cotto after that beating. I think Margarito should be banned from boxing. In this day and age of guns nobody shoots a fair one anymore. That is why boxing is my favorite sport. Just u and the guy across from you, fair & square. He ruined my sport and tarnished the sweet science that we all love. This also brings into questions how many of his wins were legit. Glad Mosely gave him the business! Oh n guys Im from Philly so DALLAS SUCKS!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:35:01 AM
Jose C:  A well written article. Margarito was found cheating against Mosley and looked quite ordinary without the loaded gloves. His methodology with the loaded gloves was to pressure hi opponent ant to hit them repeatedly with his hands of plaster. How can the sport of boxing green-light him to fight ? Do we just ignore how he affected the careers of Cotto and Cintron? I think not. Margarito is a cheater and nonone is going to tell me that he got caught the first time he cheated. He's been cheating for years and as you reported, he's literally put his cheating ahead of the sport and the men he fought. Cotto may not have been far from dying and certainly had his career negatively impacted by the cheater Margarito. The 2nd Cintron/Margarito fight was actually close until Cintron was stopped by what he immediately called 'the hardest punch he was ever hit with'. He made that comment right after the fight in his locker room. Really?? Margarito hit him with the hardest punch he was ever hit with? Cintron has sparred with Taylor and even has been hit by heavyweights including klitschko...and Margarito hits the hardest. You figure it out. With hands of plaster it may very well have been the hardest. Let someone hit you with a cast and see how it feels.? Margarito is a bum. He's a cheater and he should not make a living boxing. He lost that right when he chose to 'load' his hands. Boycott any fight...any card that includes Margarito.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:38:16 AM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  HAHAHAHA!! This guy says he's a true fan of the sport. What did you say when I said I wasn't buying the Mayweather-Marquez fight? You said that me not buying the card shows how less of a boxing fan I am. Don't you want to support the sport of boxing? Who know's in the future that I may eat my words. You first buddy who is eating the words.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:39:50 AM
ultimoshogun:  Margarito has served his suspension and deserves a second chance just as much as anyone...and I'm hoping he vindicates himself of all the speculation of his passed victories by taking on another top fighter. Even though I'm disappointed Manny didn't take the test I still love to watch him fight and I think Clottey will be more competetive than some think....So I will definitely be tuning in to this one come March 13.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:46:48 AM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  What this article's doing is turning fans away from the sport. What you guys are doing is killing the sport not helping it. Go in front of the NSAC office and protest there because that's where it starts. I'm for stiffer drug testing but you have to address it the NSAC first.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:48:07 AM
in touch:  Again Borges proves to be a novice writer by comparing an innocent man with one who has been proven guilty. Why will nobody in their right mind admit Floyd is scared to fight manny and for that reason, he requested a blood test -- never done in 40 years in vegas? How can people be so gullible?
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:54:23 AM
BoxingFan:  Borges, the message you're sending the casual boxing fans is pure negativity. You don't ask boxing fans to skip buying this one when you rely your job solely on boxing. You're not CNN, New York Daily, LA Times, etc. who attack anyone.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:58:28 AM
Kool-Aid:  As long as I've been here Borges has always been a Mayweather fan. Just didn't realize how much of a Pacman critic he became to be. Yo, where's the Mayweather Jr. articles at? Predictions and sh*t. It's a done deal! My boy Floyd boxes Suga in circles no doubt.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:06:20 PM
MisterLee:  Bill O'Reilly signing out!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:07:31 PM
SkyWalker:  Mr. Borges, you are wrong in mentioning in the same statement the names of Margarito and Pacquiao. Pacquiao, as you said , has never tested positive of any steroids. Then why prove his innocence. it's just like you saw a guy driving a Porsche, you got jealous and you ask him to prove to you that he owns the car? Something is very wrong here.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:08:56 PM
Frank Z:  not with you on this one mr. borges. margarito should certainly seek another line of work, i'll never wish jail upon a man because.... well it's jail. but the fact of the matter is that margarito ruined cotto's career MAY have done the same to another great modern boxer. manny pacquiao while i believe he should submit to tests now that the BS about him juicing is out there, being the face of boxing, is not morally unreasonable to take a stand and say no. i can't agree, but i can understand if he should do that. lastly, steroids and PEDs have NOT been proven to help you in a match. fernando vargas could not keep up his aggression when he juiced vs. de la hoya, shane fought a closer fight with oscar when he doped than the first time when he was quicker and slicker at 147. manny's body has GRADUALLY thickened and grown as he's gotten older, plus he's not draining weight anymore. he's not a knock em dead puncher, unless he happens to connect perfect with his big left hand (hatton), he cuts guys down with accumulated damage. on the other hand, do loaded gloves help? ask the collins family, ask luis resto, ask cotto.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:24:42 PM
concerned_canadian:  I'd rather believe the majority of BWAA writer's than this jealous, envious and one lousy writer.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:30:09 PM
MisterLee:  Frank Z: hard hitting' fo' sure!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:50:37 PM
wanted:  hey #1 pacman fight. r u gon b buyinthe pacman cotto fight, cause thats redeculous, if ur mans the pound fo pound y is he fightin some bum. and yes he is a bum compared to the eliet fighters. u guys jus love pacman but dun see threw the smoke this guy ran away n made a quick fight wit another fighter jus to distract u from the truth. i mean he passed on a drug test fo god sackes. and let me put it this way if pacman demanded blood testin n floyd decline, wat wud u do. u would murder that guy right? or if floyd went n fought clottey .
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 12:58:39 PM
wanted:  mannys body has gradualy thickened over the last year or 2, and he fought bums who cant defend, david diaz, hatton, cotto, clottey. put em up wit mosely, timothy bradely, even edwin valero and hed get his head knocked off. and if he fights mayweather hel look like a amature. cuz mayweather knows how to dodge a punch fo godsackes. i jus wana say askin fo a blood test is not ne worse then askin fo a welterwieght title fight to b fought at 145, especialy if u r the challenger.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 01:01:16 PM
Castro:  @Saltlover; I couldn't agree more with everything you said my friend. Great opinion & understanding of what the TRUE message is in what Ron has written. @Borges; keep up the great work!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 01:11:49 PM
Matthew:  I think Margarito should have to stand before the California commission to get his license back. If all other states went along with California's suspension, then they shouldn't re-license him without California's say-so. Giving him his license back in Texas without a hearing is, in my opinion, rewarding bad behavior. Tyson had to appear at a hearing in front of the NSAC to get his license back, and all he did was bite (not making light of the incident, just making a comparison). However, just like there is no evidence that Pacquiao has taken PEDs, there is no evidence that Margarito loaded his gloves in any other fight except prior to the Mosley fight. I have my suspicions, but I think we have to call it both ways, to be fair. I do find it ironic that the same guy (Arum) who went after the guy with loaded gloves (Resto) in '83, rushed to defend the guy with loaded wraps (Margarito) in '09. "Yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth."
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 01:16:40 PM
jay:  reply to "in touch" : So you dont think it is about time to raise the testing standards to take all the steroids users out. Just like MLB. Just because Vegas has not had testing like this in 40 years that does not mean the standards should stay the same forever. If we had laws that stayed the same 50 years ago we would have race segregation still. It is good to change and make better
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 01:21:20 PM
donputo69:  This article $uck$...anyway...be back later....holla back!!!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 01:30:44 PM
Frank Z:  oh and on bob arum. i want everyone who ever sees or reads about bob arum to remember one thing and one thing only: the man is a brutal money-maker. he does not give a DAMN about the lives or reputations of fighters if they can't make him money. he probably does not even care about his own rep if he's rich and not in danger of jail time. remember that the next time he says ANYTHING. remember why he might say that. margarito is in arum's stable and has a very crowd pleasing style, as well as being attractive to the mexican and mexican american fanbase (just less so now).
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:06:44 PM
Frank Z:  remember too, that in 2006 this man called floyd mayweather the next new and improved version of sugar ray leonard, and in 2009 insults him by saying that he only fights guys like ivan calderon. what changed? mayweather's ability to make arum money.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:07:54 PM
RED:  The trick behind being a good propagandist is to make whatever statement you want the public to believe and accept and then repeat it as much as you can. Basically, engage in the shampoo methodology. Apply. Rinse. Repeat. Antonio Margarito was caught cheating. Manny Pacquiao has not. It’s obvious now that Ron Borges is in the midst of a personal mission to get an answer to the question no one had asked before this year, i.e., whether Manny Pacquiao has used PEDs to further his career. So, in order to give some legs to his rather murky and weak stand regarding Pacquiao, Borges has decided to peg the acts of an almost universally recognized cheater to the upcoming fight of the almost universally recognized pound for pound best fighter in the world today. Of course, he couches his point by throwing in the expected--but totally unsubstantiated--allegation that Pacquiao now has “a cloud of doubt about whether or not he used performance enhancing drugs “. The cloud Borges refers to is the equally empty claim made by Floyd Mayweather about Manny’s success being tainted by the possibility of PED use. Manny did refuse to play Floyd's game. So by way of stacking unproven, inflammatory inferences, Borges comes full circle and tries to connect the dots about all this cheating using Margarito as glue. Bob Arum, of course, also finds himself in the receiving end of Borges’ cheating portfolio as the hall of fame promoter has the nerve of representing both fighters. Just like the propagandist whose job is to repeat allegations over and over in hopes that such repetition turns into some sort of dogma, Borges has unleashed an arsenal of accusations all resting on the same base: more accusations. Floyd Mayweather started to do that, too. He got sued. But it must be fantastic to be able to throw any barb one wants against anyone and then hide behind the first amendment or freedom of the press. Move on Mr. Borges. In the alternative, the National Enquire is always looking for talent.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:16:50 PM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  @Frank Z, I am not here to defend Arum but I want to correct something you said. Arum did call Mayweather Jr. the next big thing and this was after Arum was no longer his promoter. There was no hard feelings after that incident. This was said after Mayweather refused to take on Margarito for 8 million. He said that Mayweather Jr. is a man who ducks anyone and this was said after he was no longer his fighter. When May Jr. refused to fight Marg is when it all started with the love lost between the two.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:18:32 PM
Silent P:  Ronnie, I know you are still mad at the fight breaking down and you clearly have sided with Mayweather, but c'mon. You already act as if Manny is guilty. Why not instead focus your anger at changing the drug testing requirements for Boxing instead of chastising one boxer. Believe me, if Manny is guilty then you should question every boxer that has ever won a title. Cast your cloud of suspicion over the entire sport. Of course Mosley is going to submit to blood tests, there is no other way for him to land the fight of his career. Did you really think a known steriod user would refuse the test? If some writers are willing to condem Manny for refusing, think what would happen to Mosley. It's actually kind of rediculous that blood testing standards of a sanctioned sport can be negotiated. What if Ali or Tyson decided they wanted people to take random spinal taps before they fought? Or the Saints refusing to play the Colts without having random blood testing during the entire season. And do you think the average boxing fan is going to say "no thank you" to a fight of this magnitude? Sure it's not Mayweather-Pacquiao, or even Mayweather-Mosley, but average people will pay to watch an exciting fight and that's what Pacquiao brings every time.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:24:15 PM
Yuvie:  This just proves that their are idiots out there who buy into everything Mayweather says. Why the hell should Pacquiao bow to Mayweather's demands? All respect to his fighting skills, but everyone knows Mosley is one of the biggest whores in boxing, he'll do anything for a big fight, anything. If Floyd demand that Mosley eat faeces then he probably would, just for the big fight. Pacquiao did the right thing, he's not a whore to Mayweather like some of these other guys. True, the idiots feel suspicious of Pacquiao but it's like anything like that. There was a story quite recently about some girl claiming this guy was a paedophile. It was proven that he wasn't and the police even put out statements that he was innocent but once you're tarnished with something like that, the masses grab onto it like leaches. Needless to say, this guy ended up killing himself because he was hounded, even when he moved away. The same can be said here. One stupid dumbass, Floyd's father makes one little statement and look what it's become. Now, the Pacquiao doubters have something else to grab onto to critic him and the general masses, the casual fans, will buy into the Mayweather 'fish wife talk'. Pacquiao critics will never be happy with what he does, sh*t, he could beat Mayweather and there will still be excuses. You know if Pacquiao was an american, he'd be a boxing god amongst ALL boxing writers. BTW, respect where it's due, well done to Mayweather for deciding to take on Mosley.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:34:07 PM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  @Frank Z, my last comment was hard to understand so let me rephrase that. Arum highly regarded Floyd Jr. even when they parted ways. He said during a fight between Margarito and Floyd Jr. surfaced that Floyd ducks nobody and takes all challenges. Remember that it was Floyd who left Arum not the other way around. He tried to make business with Floyd Jr but he refused not once but twice. Similar to the negotiations between Pacquiao. Arum put differences aside to do business but Floyd once again refused by bringing up random blood testing.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 02:54:56 PM
Frank Z@ #1Pacfan:  yeah that was what caused the split. after that floyd thought about fighting cory spinks at 154 but ended up taking the baldomir fight because spinks was tied up with a defense.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 03:06:49 PM
DEEPWATER:  Maybe we should boycott reading borges articles.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 03:10:28 PM
Yuvie:  Also, I'm not standing up for Margarito in any way but you talk about the Margarito/Mosley fight like Margarito landed something of significance. I can't remember him even landing any flush on Mosley. He was out-boxed. Although Mosley's win was great over Margarito, I cannot help but to think that Margarito's lacklustre performance was due to the fact that he'd been found out. You can bet he didn't much feel like fighting after that. As far as Margarito's concerned though, I really can't understand why Arum has stuck behind him so much. He should not be fighting.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 03:10:52 PM
Hank:  PAcquiao agreed to have his blood drawn after the fight, just not before the fight. If he has anything to hide he wouldn't agree to that because if he's into something it would come out on the test after the fight. Obviously nobody wants to talk about that.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 03:32:34 PM
uruk-hai:  Hey Avila... How old is this Borges anyway? 25? Coz he's very amatuerish with his pin-ups. Floyd fought a lightweight, made him move up to WW and cheated on the contracted weight limit. That is a fight that should be banned. This site's credibility just got lower with pin-up writers like this kid Borges.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 03:33:10 PM
anubis:  Funny how this writer blames Manny but what about the xylocain Floyd uses which bans him from texas and now a steroid admitted Mosley fight I gues we have to boycott Floyds fight cause how can you go after a non proven guy drop the fight cause your worried but then turn around and fight an admitted user Floyd and this writer equal hyprocrits
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 03:59:12 PM
Boxing Fan:  Ron Borges.... YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:03:22 PM
Huna:  I bought Tickets for this fight to Texas and I am spending $3000 of my Tax Return so my friends,family and co-workers can watch this fight at home. So as long as Pacquiao comes to Fight I will do my extra part to combat any Boycott against him by Pac Haters such as the writer of this article.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:04:12 PM
brian Mcclelland:  For cripes sake, there is no cloud hanging over Manny's head, Ron. Why should Manny submit to the "Mayweather Commission's" demands? If Mayweather has a problem with drug tests he should go to the Nevada State Athletic Commission to ASK FOR new tests. End of story!!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:17:52 PM
entradero:  Floyd is a cheater, paid 600k, Mosely is a cheater, did he pay? Margarito paid one year suspention, why punish him more and let the GBP boys keep on boxing. BTW tell Oscar to sign the confidentiality papers and see if he was cheating also. Birds of the same feather flocks together.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:18:55 PM
pinoyako:  Manny agreed to be tested right after the fight! The author seemed to emphasize here that Manny refused to be tested. Whatever in his system can be found after the fight. He just refused to be bullied .
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:30:54 PM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  @Frank Z, that wasn't the cause of the split my friend. From my recollection the cause of the split was all due to the fact that Floyd felt like he was cheated on some paydays. I don't blame neither for the split but after Mayweather Jr. didn't want to do business with Arum is when it all started.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:35:27 PM
DEMON:  hey what about SHANE member what he did he still fighting so give Tony a chance and as for pac man theres not proof man just cuzz some ugly ass brothers say his on dope everyonme belives them you know whats more belvieable its that Floy never wanted to fight him not till he lose a fight or two more then maybe he will fight him when his over the hill and beating up
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 04:59:36 PM
Frank Z@ #1Pacfan:  ah ok... either way my point stands. if you can't make bob arum money he'll shamelessly diss you.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:00:46 PM
ocir:  Mosley vs Mayweather fight is not a done deal yet ? Some body is having some second tought, or chickening out. Why? maybe he can't have a shot of PED anymore?
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:05:20 PM
mikey:  I agree with you about Margarito,cheaters should be banned in boxing , to have an advantage thru illegal means against opponent that may cause serious damage is a crime,yet the rules in boxing has a lot of contradictions,Mayweather is a known xylocaine user that numb his fists and it is banned in all states except nevada,de la Hoya will not sign the waiver so that his records will be known if he is clean,Mosley is a known roid user,even though he is not using it now his growth was aided illegaly so the advantage is still there,These cheaters who dont want to get cheated and accusing any boxer who surpass their records without concrete evidence and change the rules of the commission are hypocrites.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:08:41 PM
PrimaVera:  They can speak loudly with the only thing anyone in the sport hears. They can speak with their money and say this time, “Thanks Pacquiao for being a great, genuine boxer who stands for his principle. We will definitely watch your fight. And for those People who accused you without any shred of evidence, let them be damned.’’
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:14:39 PM
ngern:  Ron, stop comparing Pacman to these cheating boxers! Pacman never did steroids or PEDs or whatever you claim. If Filipinos knew anything about those kind of things, they'd have produced gold medals in the Olympics by now, or in most other sports. You just don't know that Filipinos are firm believers of natural medicines. If you'd only visit the country, you'll know that they have all sorts of natural remedies for many kinds of sicknesses, and are very well versed in such things. The only other point I want to make is to be a bit more forgiving to cheaters. They deserve a second chance to prove that they can be honest. But leave Pacman alone! He's an honest man!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:18:38 PM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  @Frank Z, I think a lot of people misunderstood Arum when he parted ways with Floyd. Many people thought Arum was out to take Floyd out of the picture rather than looking at it as a business deal. This is Arum's all about, a promoter who puts together huge events. Why would he pit two of his biggest boxers facing each other risking losing one of them. For example, Cotto-Margarito and Pacquiao-Cotto. Cotto and Margarito maybe out of the big picture as of now but will soon get back. We may never see Pacquiao and Mayweather face off but I don't put most of the blame on Arum who put his differences aside to make one of the biggest fights in a long time. I just don't see that fight ever happening cause of this issue we have with the blood testing. Nobody is going to budge and that's just to bad.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:31:30 PM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  Great exchanges Frank Z!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:33:19 PM
Lito:  @ ron borges: i agree with your assessment of margarito but i disagree with your assessment of pacquiao...your ariticle is totally discriminating against pac...fortunately the Boxing Writers of America dont agree with you.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:38:01 PM
ocir:  Mosley vs Mayweather fight is not a done deal yet ? Some body is having some second tought, or chickening out. Why? maybe he can't have a shot of PED anymore?
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:38:22 PM
Frank Z@ entradero:  why? because loading your gloves can KILL somebody, that's why. PEDs may or may not help you in a long 12 round boxing match where mental toughness, good strategy, skills, and real conditioning play such a huge role. having bricks for hands would alter the game plans a bit no? coming in overweight may or may not have helped floyd. for all we know maybe he just didn't feel like taking a sh*t that morning. i'm not defending him, he shoudl have made 144, and it made for a foul situation, but it didn't put JMM's life at risk.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:41:50 PM
Frank Z@ #1Pacfan:  my beef with arum runs a little deeper than juts floyd.floyd's just one fighter, he's been known to say stuff like ":we'll let the blacks and latinos fight it out and count the money by the ring." and also he's a big factor in the sanctioning body mess we have today.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 05:42:47 PM
PACMAN IS ON ROIDS:  FUNNY HOW ALL THE PACMAN FANS JUMP TO DEFEND HIM......... WOULD YOU BET YOUR LIFE THAT HES NOT ON ROIDS?????
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 06:41:36 PM
Badong:  Luis Resto's glove is not loaded. It has nothing in it because the padding was removed. You should complain to the California Athletic Commission on why was Margarito suspended for only a year. They deemed it as just punishment for the infraction. Margarito applied for license in Texas because he is not fighting in California. It is inconceivable to apply for a license in California when you will fight in Texas. If he is to fight in California, then it is only fitting that he apply for a license in that state. I have actually worked with plaster of paris and I know for a fact you have to mix it with water much like portland cement and let it dry or cure to harden and that means exposed and not inside gloves. The hardened plaster of paris w/o reincorcement is very brittle and when pounded turns to its original state-powder. Ever dropped a figurine made of plaster? You can draw your own conclusion now,
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 06:56:12 PM
RICHARD obama:  Hey people!!!!isn't it that Pacman is being accused of using steroids because of his tremendous power that he brings in the ring?hey, hey, hey!take note of this punching power of this lightweight fighter by the name of Edwin Valero...why don't they accuse him also of using steroids the fact that Valero has a perfect record of 26 wins with 26 knockouts, 19 of it came from first round only..i bet,one of these days when someone like Valero is on top of the boxing world, America will then again accuse somebody using steroids because of great power.take note,Edwin Valero is not an American.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 06:58:13 PM
davido:  Margarito should be given a second chance? Give me a break. While I'm usually all about 2nd chances, are we just supposed to forget what he did to Cotto and Cintron and maybe others? I know...it's all speculation. The only time we 'KNOW' he tried to cheat was against Mosley. Give me a break. Had he not been 'caught' he'd still be doing it. A one year suspension is not enough...I don't know what is. Should he give part of his purses to Cotto since he is partially responsible for altering his career? Should he repay Cintron the millions he could have possibly made had he not been hit wtih a concrete body punch? I'm playing with you...sort of. I really don't know the answer here but just pretending he didn't alter the careers of others is a joke. I will not support any card he is a part of. He is entitled to a second chance at life...at making a living...but not in boxing. You wouldn't let a banker who stole money from the bank back into the banking industry...would you? Not the same thing but why let a cheat who knowingly loaded his hands and stepped in the ring with other fighters who were playing by the rules? That's insane. Margarito should find a new profession. Boxing should see to it!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 07:34:52 PM
Real Talk :  Margarito will get crushed by Cotto in the rematch if Cotto improves his right and learns how to hold to break his opponents momentum. Cotto will do good in his next fight at 154. I think he'll be stronger than ever. Dueces
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 07:38:33 PM
erniepep:  Ron, I'm not a fan of Margarito. Margarito attempted to use a plaster of paris which is in a sense a mitigating circumstance as he never used it in the ring with Mosley and the fact that he had served his suspension for a year is good enough. However, how do treat Mosley's admission before the Grand Jury for using steroid when he fought de la Hoya? He could have also endangered the life of de la Hoya, right? I think you are only a few known writers who believed in Mayweather, Sr.(a convicted drug trafficker) floating of this steroid issue and not a majority of these writers who voted for Pacman as "Fighter of the Year" and "Fighter of the Decade" based on actual facts and not hearsays, like you do.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 07:38:57 PM
ocay:  dont envy me paquiao told all floyds fans........lol
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 07:53:05 PM
dude:  you have to understand that mosley is a whole lot more desperate than pacquiao to get a fight. mosley has been on the shelf for like what? a year? he would obviously submit to what ever mumbo jumbo they ask him to do just to secure a payday.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 08:00:30 PM
Nally Patak:  KFC is Xman? Right on target. Floyd fuck (destroy) little guys with Xy enhancing. What a dope
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 08:12:04 PM
chicken boy:  ATTENTION: MOVE-On all the mayweather fans and supporter especially writer who hate pacman... try to convince ur self that ur self proclaim P4P boxer idol is great.. i suggest u form a association and give ur idol his deserve awards for ur own benefits,he need all ur support now he is still on DENIAL STAGE that his still the P4P boxer of the decade..
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 08:31:38 PM
ronel:  Mr. Borges is always misleading readers here. Mr. Pacquiao will submit himself to blood testing provided the Mayweather camp accepts his terms - and the terms are acceptable to Floyd's advisers. He (Floyd) is the one who came up with my-dick-is-harder-than-yours-excuse. In the first place, is there a Mayweather Athletic Commission in Nevada? If I am accused of something, will I volunteer myself to prove my innocence. Come on Mr. Borges! Is 1+1 =3 ? The burden will always be on the accuser and not on the accused. By the way, congratulations on the hits you are receiving as of late. However, in the long run, your edited, scripted and one-dimensional opinion will affect your reputation as a journalist, one way or another. No wonder you are not on the level of Dan Rafael et al.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 08:36:21 PM
Radam G:  Just report the type of roids, according to the great and knowledgable Uncle Roger May. The Universe deserves to hear about "A-side Meth." Bottomline is a cover-up of ignorance and fear is what is keeping Money-short May from tangling with Manny. After all, Family May said that Lil' Floyd would win despite any type of steriods. The only PED that has been used is by PBF. In the end, even after Money-short May is robbed in a bout with Sugar Shane Mosely, the bout wa eventually happen. And Manny will knocked Lil' Floyd the fudge out. Holla!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 08:39:01 PM
Floydzacoward:  Great point! If only there were any similarity between Manny's situation and Margarito's! While that makes for the sort of inane oversimplification in which the writer specializes, there is no evidence whatsoever that Pacquiao has ever used any PED, or done anything else illegal. Margarito, of course, was caught attempting to cheat. Likewise, Mosley was also caught doping. The if-he's-got-nothing-to-hide argument is no more valid when talking about PEDs than the right to due to process. If you've got nothing to hide, why would you mind if the cops raid your house, or the feds tap your phone, without a warrant? Mayweather, or any fighter, is not entitled to make up the rules. Manny and Arum should have told Floyd and Golden Boy to get bent the minute they brought up the subject. Funny to hear the Golden Boy himself making excuses, I mean allegations, relating to the beating he took from Pacquiao. It's also pretty interesting to hear Mayweather -- who blatantly disregarded the contractual weight limit to give himself an even bigger edge over the much smaller Marquez -- suddenly portrayed as the conscience of the sport.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 09:02:01 PM
eltorero:  amazing. utterly amazing. borges was it? no wonder i havent heard of u before. what u wrote just now was plain garbage in its true form. pathetic way of hoarding clicks to ur website. goodluck with u, sir.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 09:22:30 PM
mike:  Floyd is not sign yet and Richard is now mad....Tell your bot to be man enough or just stay retired forever...
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 09:36:17 PM
gerald :  where's pbf signature? why so reluctant? this only proves bob arum's sentiment... ivan calderon-Pbf!!!!!
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 09:42:41 PM
.:  BOOOO PACQUIAO HE PICK EASY FIGHT thats BS LOOK MAYWEATHER HE IS FIGHTING A DANGER FIGHTER LIKE MOSLEY F@$% PACMAN.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 09:43:30 PM
erniepep:  Dear Ron, I made a comment an hour ago and I have not seen it posted. Was my comment quite insulting for you as a writer? I was just expressing myself truthfully based on some facts I came to know from some writers with integrity like Tom Hauser, Al Bernstein and some other writers who are not biased at all to present their side of the case and not a forced and biased one which I found your article to be so. I looked upon you as a good writer before with limitless boundaries and I feel sad that your writing is kinda limited nowadays to the delight of a few people and not in the interest of good reporting.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 09:43:38 PM
dongitzclem:  I'm just wondrin if this writer knew the meaning of FAIR PLAY. Still, this writer had the guts to mention FAIR PLAY in boxing. Does mayweather played fair in his match against Marquez by not making into the contracted weight, to think that he's already bigger than Marquez? Is it fair play for mayweather to use xylocaine in most if not all of his fights? Is it fair if mayweather cherry pick his opponents just so his "0" wont be tarnished? Is it fair to accuse a good & credible man in Pacquiao of using illegal drugs without an iota of proof? Ron, why not open your eyes & check for yourself what & who the mayweathers are then weigh who's more credible, is it Manny or the mayweathers. Why cant these mayweather huggers admit that floyd is really avoiding the best there is in his division. Just try to look at this Mosley fight, floyd's advisers including GBP kept saying that both fighters wanted to fight each other. Why until now only Mosley had signed the contact & where is floyd. Is this not another sign of patented mayweather ploy to avoid the fight? I AM JUST CURIOUS RON...CAN YOU GIVE ME AN ANSWER, ASAP?
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:02:04 PM
atozet:  Despite all his best excuses, Pacquiao’s refusal has left him under a cloud of "doubt about whether or not he used performance enhancing drugs including EPO, the blood doping drug." This kind on reasoning is the very reason why there is now a lawsuit. Many people has joined Junior's band wagon destroying Pacman's reputation. Retribution is where it hurt most. Junior's pocket. Why insist on blood test when it is not flawless. Marion Jones got blood test 160 times yet the result was negative. Insist on hair sample where it can trace years back of dope using. I firmly believed that PBF Junior's test will be positive of doping. He insist on blood test perhaps he has the masking agent that Marion Jones used to beat the system. In addition, if ever Pacman and PBF will fight again, Pacman should insist the fight should be held outside Las Vegas where the use of Xylocaine is banned.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:07:18 PM
ray:  Should Pacquiao agree to Floyd Jnr's Drug Testing conditions and Pacquiao still won their fight, what conditions will be asked to Manny by his next opponent? Maybe a 24 hour Security Guard from opponent's camp, to monitor Manny's activities? Hehehe.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:15:46 PM
Zzz:  Clearly, Ron Borges is an idiot.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:20:38 PM
brutus25:  whats happening in boxing is terrible they need new testing procedures and penalties, no more slack testing and time to protect the boxer. margarito ruined cottos career but no one ever talks about trinidad and how he ruined vargas career. the illegal wrappings he had almost killed vargas.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:31:36 PM
Frank Z:  no i wouldn't bet my life, would you bet your life that he was? no? alright sit down then.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:31:39 PM
ATM:  to Ron Borges: you are not one of the respected boxing writer.your article is not fair and balanced.but whatever you will write in the future against Pacman,Pac is the people's champion.while your PBF ducking and running away,hes not contented then accused Manny of ussing PED's without any proof and evidence?and you believed it?I lost respect to this writer.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 10:58:48 PM
blackice:  why ask manny of taking this blood test? why don't ask the committee/NSAC to adopt this kind of test? and then require all the boxers under it to undergo these procedures, why hate the boxers when he himself just simply abiding with the standard rules, ok i'm with you guyy, when you said it is for the boxers and boxing sake that this blood test should be put in line, but there are procedures and there is NSAC to be considered. don't hate the players hate the game
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:11:17 PM
Vice:  @ Salt Lover or a.k.a Floyd Sr? You always praise who write positive to Floyd Jr. & who criticize Pacman. You, this writer & Floyd Sr. the drug user both have the same thinking. Maybe the three of you are only 1 person. For your info maybe Floyd Jr. are the one on PED. Everyone can assume anything you know
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:17:58 PM
blackice:  let the fans do what they want if you don't want the boxer, then don't watch his fight, by the way why dictates boxing commission on what they should and should not be done? are you better than them?
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:19:26 PM
Fe'Roz :  Ron, you should start to sign off with God Bless America. After all, the greatest sin in journalism, short of outright fabrication, is plagiarism. And your history and your reprieve from having committed that gross violation of ethics is very well documented. And yet here you are. Only in America!! So I ask you, if it is reasonable to ask us to ban and not to buy a Margaritio fight...is it not equally reasonable for us to ignore your written word. After all, limericks aside, Words can do (and have done) far more damage that fists. Way more.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:35:04 PM
napski:  borges doesn't like arum and co period
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:37:19 PM
JP:  Dont forget Pacquiao agreed to 3 blood test including one straight after the fight. If he was on anything I dont think he would have agreed to any test. Not sure why Floyd didn't agree to the 24 day testing that was proposed.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:49:30 PM
Gogoy:  Mr. Ron, You are entitled to your own opinion. I agree with the Marga scandal. Mr Nazim was doing his job, since one of his fighter (Tito T.) used also extra padding in 1999. I hope you add some items like the drugs used by Floyd for his brittle hands and Oscars failed drug test in his previous fights. Manny is not guilty, unless proven, so its stays at that and lets move on. I agree in previous comment that the writer or more issues needed to lobby boxing commission to upgrade their way of drug testing, especially on major fights.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:52:32 PM
ali:  Why are we even talking about this cheater he should be band for life...His punk ass could have killed Cotto with those cast on his hands...I looked at the fight with Shane again today and felt so good when Shane knocked him the f*ck out.....I hope Cotto fights him again and does the same thing Mosley did.
Tuesday Feb 2, 2010 11:55:01 PM
Dumb Floyd Fans:  Manny Pacquiao is Fighter of the Year for the 4th time and Fighter of the Decade. And your Floyd.....nuthin'...tryin' to run away from the elite fighters and from the IRS.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 12:28:50 AM
Isaiah:  Don't some of you all get it yet? Stop dancing around on a puppet string. Ron Borges is going to put down Pacquiao no matter what the man does and Frank L. is going to put down Floyd Mayweather at all costs. It's a game with these guys. A few of you all let the rage consume you and keep on saying stuff like, Ron. what were you thinking with that article?!... blah, blah, blah.... I know. I was just doing the same thing, but my eyes are open now. It's kind of funny when you think about it. Whether that's their real opinions or not, they're basically just messing with us. LOL! By the way, why is Antonio Margarito still relevant?
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 12:31:29 AM
Domenic:  I rarely comment but keep up the great work Mr. Borges! I don't always agree with you, but your work is always provocative, bold, and hard-hitting. I find these comments very humorous. Because the vast majority are EXTREME Pacquiao loyalists (a cult-like herd, reminiscent of Charles Manson's former "family"), they simply sling mud at you instead of attacking that which you've written. It's the classic ad hominem argument. It's a juvenile characteristic/tactic, and it's always on full display here.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 12:44:02 AM
Bartolome:  Hey Mister Writer, get over it!
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 12:50:13 AM
Arnie:  Your article is getting better again Ron compared to the many previously written. You look more like the incredible hulk of news writing if you're upset. But I prefer to read that you're brain is the one getting bigger instead of your ego. Good article, improving!
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 01:35:49 AM
nate_brawl:  YES! YES! YES! RAH! RAH! RAH! Margarito-Pacquiao, September 2010 Megafight! Wooo-hooo!!!
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 01:55:19 AM
Thera:  An envious person, will never understand any reason, he will only listen to himself. He will die bitter, because all his life is a total failure.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:01:55 AM
Chuck Norris:  Margarito can go choke on a handwrap. In fact, let me just go ahead and help him.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:16:47 AM
Mike:  Should every boxer comply to all Floyd's demands? What is the difference with taking the test a day after the fight and 14 days before? Mosley is desperately in need of a super fight, and he would do anything just to get it. Floyd will always have demands, and some may be unreasonable, and I don't think it would be good for the sport, if all his demands are always met.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:23:37 AM
Bert0:  The contract had been signed by both parties. If Floyd wins the fight, good for him, however if Shane wins the fight, NSAC will declare the fight "no con-test" as they will find an illegal substance on Shanes fluid, hence Floyd (with legal Xylocaine) will remain undefeated. Shane will make sure to take the illegal substance before the fight so as to make the NSAC test positive after the fight. Just one of the many possibilities to happen. I must be wrong, but I cant't lie about what my thoughts are about this fight. Not ..Floyds numbed hands not signing yet.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:29:06 AM
crottyruh:  Say what you will Mr. Borges and still Manny is the BWAA's BOXER of the DECADE...... and I'm glad you are not one of them.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:43:33 AM
Isaiah:  It's okay Floyd fans. Floyd Mayweather did win the award for being the biggest whore of the century which is amazing since we're only 10 years in...
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:49:28 AM
Isaiah:  By the way, in the Hopkins/Jones rematch, if there's a KO, the subtitle to it should be, "I've fallen and I can't get up!"
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 02:54:45 AM
Yes Yo!:  Of course to those who, like Borges, already presume, based on scant if not non-existent evidence, that Pacquiao is guilty, he will always be under a cloud of doub't. We can't help that. We can't control what people think, especially the uninformed, the biased, or the dyed-in-the-wool hater. But the BWAA just named Pacquiao (for the third time) boxer of the year, and more importantly, boxer of the decade despite all these malicious attempts to malign his name and reputation. So, what does that say about Manny being under a cloud of doubt? He may be to Borges, Mayweather, GBP, and their ilk, but not to the knowledgeable and fair-minded BWAA members, and certainly not to the MAJORITY of boxing fans..
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 03:14:04 AM
ryan:  @salt lover,if arum knew that margarito illegaly put plasters in his gloves,then why did he put margarito on a one year ban?if arum knew that manny pacquiao was on some ped's,then why he is still promoting pacquiao?
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 04:44:51 AM
sonnym:  mosley : confirmed ped user ..fact mayweather : confirmed xylocane user.. fact golden boy : confirmed xylocane lidocane user..fact pacquiao : pressume assume doubted ...non fact = guilty this is how writers like "borges" "lahr" "santiagos" "pereze's of this world uses their pens..low life pathethic style of writing.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 07:50:38 AM
sahey:  Your premise doesn't hold water. You're trying to bend a staright rule with rhetorics. Shame...
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 08:03:27 AM
mistah:  You can send them the message yourself for all we care. And for putting Manny down there with Margarito like they're of the same mold.... Nice try. :)
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 09:36:32 AM
stilios300:  hey Borges, riding on the bandwagon just because some crackhead trainer had an opinion of Pacquiao is on something illegal...who's the more foolish one..the fool or the fool who followed him. "cloud of doubt" my ass... If we asked a judge: "should we give in to this demand (PEDs test) because he had an opinion?" I can have an opinion myself, I think mayweather came from a chicken but I can't prove that unless I came up with an evidence of his dad banging on a fowl. And why too hard on margarito and not do the same on mosley? mosley still active..or why not the same stringent measure on trinidad before...maybe you were not writing yet when trinidad got caught with same...i'll give you a pass
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 10:52:59 AM
#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by TKO in the 8th":  @Frank Z, yeah I agree with you on that but who the hell cares about him anyway. He's just like rest of the money hungry promoters, right? @Isaiah, the differences between Ron and F-LO is that Ron only looks at it as a fans(Floyd) perspective. F-LO says it like it is in a spectators(boxing fan) perspective. F-LO has said some critical opinions regarding MP while Ron thinks Floyd is doing everything right. We should have them guys go head to head in a debate one of these days.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 11:04:01 AM
t dogg:  anyone know if floyd gonna be able to throw down with xylocane in this one...?????
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 12:15:21 PM
IMO:  Manny hasn't fought bums!!! Who does Mayweather fight!!! Mayweather ducked Margarito, Cotto (before he was defeated), Mosley until he had no choice & still hasn't signed the contract!!! Cotto & Clottey are far from bum's "Wanted" you know nothing about boxing obviously. As far as the drug testing goes why don't they test everyone to the max, why do fighters get away with plaster of paris, why do fighters take dives, for the greed of MONEY!!! Boxing will never be 100% legitimate just like pretty much everything else in life. It's sad for the people who work so hard are honorable, fearless, making no excuses, having no regrets, wanting to be the best they can be like Cotto was & still is. Majority of the promoters, trainers, & all betters don't care as long as there pockets are fat.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 12:17:35 PM
amayseng:  i think margaCHEATO should be banned for LIFE. boxing is dangerous to begin with, but with loaded gloves he could have ruined a man's life ---brain damage---or killed him with these illegal tactics. everyone should negate buying this damn PPV
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 01:00:19 PM
tulindoy:  ron borges shutb the hell up! and stop hiding to your screen name salt lover! dah!
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 01:07:12 PM
Paquito:  There are 2 types of people who are against Manny Pacquiao - Doubters and Haters. Doubters just needs solid proof that Pacquiao is really a clean fighter who otherwise really admires how he fought but due to Pacquiao's refusal to undergo the USADA testing made them skeptical. I appreciate these type of people because they are generally respectful in their comments. On the other hand Haters will never ever accept Pacquiao as a legitimate fighter even if the most absolute proof has been presented to them by mulitple accrediting authorities. Haters just reject and bad mouth him because he is who he is. He is not white and not black. I am mindful though the reverse analogy is true with other Pacquiao fans who maybe doubtful and hateful of Mayweather. For true boxing fans. the latter type of attitude just has to stop and discouraged.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 03:01:03 PM
TheTruthHurts:  Why is Pacquiao getting so much credit for his cherry picked oppenents? Pacquiao hasnt fought a prime fighter yet, unlike floyd who has fought Castillo, Corrales, Ndou, Corley, Hatton, etc. all in their PRIME! When he beat Ndou the guy was 31-0 with 31ko and Corrales was undefeated as well and thought to be floyds biggest test at the time....what happened is floyd won by TKO in both fights! How many undefeated fighters has Pacquaio beat? Pacquiao is a industry made champion thanks to Bob Arum, I wont be surprised when he gets exposed for roids and the C+ fighter he really is, instead I will just say "I told you so" just like I have done 40 times after Floyd Mayweather Jr's fights! You have no idea how much $ Mayweather has made me.....I owe Floyd more than loyalty since he damn near put both my kids thru college by betting on BLACK! LMFAO
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 06:38:40 PM
Frank Z@ #1Pacfan:  nah i'm with you, he's just like any promoter, but that's the problem isn't it? they have too much power and they mess up too many potentially great fights. it's why mma's coming up, even though their guys gernally are just brutes who can kinda grapple and sorta kinda strike, they still put on the matchups the public calls for, and the public wants to be listened to. for every good match boxing puts up, there's about 10 left on the table.
Wednesday Feb 3, 2010 07:41:39 PM
jay:  whether margarito was aware of what was going on with his wraps mosley wasnt much agianst an injured vernon forrest not once but twice then his career got revitalized with his complete ignorace that he was consuming steroids so lets keep praising him for his incredible strength and punching power now in his twilight years.tell the CAC they should hold everyone accountable not just pick and choose. margarito all your fans and raza are waiting for your return.
Thursday Feb 4, 2010 11:41:00 PM
Cindy:  Let Margarito move on over to MMA. Maybe their fan base would accept him. We don't need to see his face in boxing. It is a double standard that Luis Resto was banned for life from boxing and even served a prison sentence for the same offense as Margarito. Personally, I don't believe Margarito will ever overcome this black mark on his character. Sugar Shane is a good dude and he's doing what he can to right past deeds for which he may or may not have been guilty. Geaux Shane! You're the man!
Friday Feb 5, 2010 12:20:09 PM
Mark from Toronto Canada:  Hilarious...while Borges is correct that Margarito is a proven cheat, he might have a tough time proving Pacquiao is a cheat...having said that, how many times have we seen athletes swear up and down that they are clean/innocent and then they get shown to be dirty as sin. I personally think that if you are clean you would take the random tests, and if Pacquiao is in fact clean, then I really think he got bad advice because he looks dirty to the real boxing fan.
Friday Feb 5, 2010 03:12:45 PM
Jorge:  As a man of Mexican origin I consider Antonio Margarito a total embarassment! Putting plaster under his boxing gloves to enhance his punch is downright criminal. Mexico has had great Welterweights such as Jose Napoles and Pipino Cuevas, who to my knowledge won based on having only the right equipment on and fighting to their best ability. I'm glad Margarito-Cotto did not end up like the Luis Resto -Billy Collins fight. Margarito would be facing jail. As a result if Margarito is allowed to fight he should have the gloves and wraps checked by a local boxing commission official, not only him but all boxers, just to be fair, if a boxer as much as puts wraps without such official present witnessing such, his fight and fight purse should be forfeited, and just send the fighters violating these rules home, before we have to read about a possible tragedy by fighters being fast and loose with the rules, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure here, as if there aren't enough ways to be hurt in the sport of boxing.
Saturday Feb 6, 2010 02:40:37 PM
the blacksmith:  Great article, Ron. I really enjoyed the way you put these things into perspective.
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 06:02:56 AM
Gman134:  Whats ironic in all this is that Miguel Cotto...Could possible have faced the greatest two cheaters in the sport of boxing...which turned out so far to be his only two loses...and we may never know the actual truth if Margacheato actually had illegal wraps against cotto (but pretty good odds) and if Pac-roid was juiced when he fought cotto (good odds as well). The sad thing is Greedy Bob promotes all 3 fighters and if i was him i would be sick to my stomach knowing i put Cotto ...a great clean fighter in with a couple of cheats...thats why this sport of Boxing is always put to shame with the corruption with too much money involved ie: rigged fights , which lead to cheaters doing anything to win that big fight ie: steroids. as a avid follower of boxing for the past 13 years i can safely say im officially done with this sport. I now watch K-1 ..with fighters that put the pride of thier training and discipline on the line and aren't effected by fame , money, and greed...they have better discipline of mind body and soul ...Respect for thier opponents and martial art...
Tuesday Feb 9, 2010 10:13:51 PM

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