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Mayweather Looks For De Facto Win Over Pacquiao
By Frank Lotierzo
Lets see, the most anticipated fight in three years has been canceled because one of the participants, Floyd Mayweather Jr., believes the other participant Manny Pacquiao has been beating the system and injecting HGH/PED's.
First of all there's no evidence that Pacquiao has circumvented the system and he has passed every drug test he's been required to take. Secondly, there's never been one fighter who's fought during the modern era who enhanced their punching power and punch resistance as a result of HGH/PED's. Not one. If Pacquiao has the magic secret/PED you'd think he'd share it with his brother who's also a boxer. And one who doesn't have a great chin nor is he a great puncher like Manny.
For the sake of argument - lets assume that Pacquiao has gained some size and strength via injecting HGH/PED's. And lets assume for the sake of argument that they have aided Pacquiao in moving up from featherweight to welterweight. So what? He's still a welterweight like Mayweather is. It's not like Pacquiao was a strong welterweight and then added x-percent of muscle and strength. On that there can be no disagreement. So in essence Mayweather fears a featherweight who may be on HGH. Only Floyd Mayweather Jr. would attempt such a reach and use it as a way to kill a super-fight. Mayweather is turning what should have been an intriguing, straightforward fight into something like a sideshow.
As of this writing Pacquiao is scheduled to fight Joshua Clottey later this year on March 13th. Which was the day the world was supposed to stop and we'd see Mayweather-Pacquiao. Instead we'll see Pacquiao take on another tough welterweight in Clottey (Cotto being the first) who Mayweather would more than likely never have fought for the BS reason that there's not enough money in it for him. And the Mayweather band continues to march on.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a very cunning man. But he can only fool those who want to be convinced that he's an upstanding and honest great fighter. The fact is he manipulated his way out of fighting Manny Pacquiao because he couldn't dictate the terms and condition's to which the fight would be governed and fought under.
So what happens now? What happens now is both fighters will go about doing what they've done best over the last three years. For Mayweather that's talk and brag but not meet a single fighter who has a legitimate shot to beat him. And for Pacquiao, he'll move onto the next challenge and continue to add to his legacy and fatten his bank account.
Personally, I've always felt Mayweather Jr. was a tad overrated when compared to the greatest of the greats from a skill-set vantage point. However, I underrated his ability to sell a fight and change the debate. And change the debate is exactly what he's done regarding a potential fight between he and Pacquiao. For the last month Pacquiao-Mayweather can't be discussed without talking about HGH/PED. And this is all because Pacquiao has looked too good in his last couple fights that Mayweather and Teddy Atlas just can't handle it. Pacquiao is overshadowing Mayweather and I guess Atlas doesn't like being upstaged by Freddie Roach as a trainer. Which is something being that Atlas knows more than anybody that in boxing it's 95% the fighter and 5% the trainer. It's just that the fighter must have that 5% a great trainer brings.
At this time Mayweather is looking for a de facto victory over Pacquiao. Floyd's hoping to string along Pacquiao's using HGH as long as he can hoping that if Manny looks impressive against Clottey (if the fight comes off) he can continue to make the accusations stick. And inside he'll hope that Clottey upsets Pacquiao so he can say afterward - "if Clottey with three losses beat Pacquiao, everyone knows I would've beat him easier."
Floyd will continue to accuse Pacquiao to be a steroid abuser and hope to diminish his victories - and if Manny stumbles he'll claim a de facto victory over him and ask, "who have beat me?" To which it can easily be retorted by saying, "who have you beat?"
Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com
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donputo69 at San Juan beach:
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Goof F*****G article frank...i always though the same about scareweather...OVERRATED....and yep..pacquaio is schedule to fight another tough opponent in clottey...something scareweather WILL NEVER DO...but who cares...lol....holla back!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 03:43:46 PM
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The Saint:
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Great article, nailed every point!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 03:46:13 PM
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leroy brown:
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chicken floyd should fire his uncle and hire teddy atlas as his trainer if that will make them feel better.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 03:49:41 PM
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Radam G -- hmmmm:
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Poor Lil' Floyd Duckweather -- I mean Mayweather -- is so picked on. HEY! Yall oughta leave him alone. WTF! Herpes and shingles have made him kind of crazy. Now he is no cheater! So I know that he isn't using Xylocaine as PED, NOT! Why would a person use Xylocaine when he doesn't have herpes? To disguide cheating! Tricks of the trade -- Money-broke May got it made! lmfao, because I got a question? Is Lil' Floyd a freak or what? What happens in Vegas suppose to stay in Vegas, lol. OMG! Don't tell me that Lil Floyd has been fingering the wrong whores! Or maybe he is just like Pops Joy May and is pushing Xylocaine. You know that the working girls need that $hit and it is expensive. But generous Lil' Floyd probably just wanted to help a ho OUT! Hahahahahahahahaha! I just know that he was not fingering one! Wow! Don't lick Lil' Floyd, that is nasty! Sometimes you wolf like you have herpes or some type of STD in the mouth. You will be all right! This boxing game get stranger by the sec. OMFG! Doc Vitali is using piss on his brittle hands. Canvas-kissing Marquez is drinking the piss. And Lil' Floyd is using herpes steroids on his brittled-arse hands or fingering a ho or sumpin.' A darn genie is tells a Sugar Steroids -- I mean Shane -- to swim without getting wet. And a chick name Ann Wolfe ain't nuffin' but a darn mermaid, with an anger-management problem, old-school working the fudge outta of a gun-buying Texan Mandingo warrior. She works that sucka so hard that he gets put in jail to get some dang rest. She oughta give that Mandingo warrior a spear, and just maybe he will stay out of jail for trying to be a shootin-up Mandingo cowboy. WOW! I'm gonna have fun in Texas. 'Em Texans -- a bunch of billionaire BUCKERS -- are going to give Team and Posse Pac the royal treatment, western and southern hospitaliteee! We are going to give them some balut and lumpia! Luvin' it BABBBBEEEEEEEE! It PacTime! It Pinoy TIME! Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 03:55:05 PM
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swift:
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Great article! Don't forget about his stay at 140 which he side stepped Kosta Tszyu... The guy is the pound for pound biggest con artist in boxing history!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 03:55:48 PM
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Chris:
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he was able to get everyone to bite. He's laughing all the way to the bank
and each and everyone of you are criticizing him. For what? You won't lose a dime if he doesn't fight. lol!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:00:30 PM
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Frank Z:
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i can't be with this article that much. mayweather had no real reason to demand additional drug tests, but it's not unprecedented, and while pacquiao has never failed a drug test, the same people who defend him with that reason would also likely say that the drug testing is flawed since mosley never got caught. i do not think that pacquiao is juicing but mainstream fans need pac to step up and take these tests now that it's out there to remove all doubt. whether or not he's truly mentally weakened by blood taking will come off as a weak excuse, especially since boxers get cut frequently during bouts. let's not make pacquiao and mayweather's legacies to be total opposites either. yes pacquiao is enhancing his while mayweather's diminishing his, but let's compare their legacies since 130 lbs. maywaether completely locked down 130 and destroyed the man of that division genaro hernandez and blew out angel manfredy who was thought to be a top fighter at that weight too. of course there's his performance against corrales. at 135 he had his wars with castillo and proved he could brawl when called upon and avenged his (i think) loss in the first fight. after that he moves to 140 and this is where i think he draws a blank on his resume. he looked impressive against gatti and bruseles, but they weren't true threats. at 147 he fought zab judah when judah was still near his best and dangerous since he was desperate to win. then he beat the man who beat judah to claim the belts which is a logical move to make him the man of the division. yes he did avoid margarito and should have foguth him down the line but at the time it wasn't right, cause baldomir had the belts. he beat a de la hoya who was fresh at 154, let's not forget that, a weight class manny has not fought in. now let's look at manny: at 130 he had his wars with barerra, morales, and marquez, which he deserves credit for, but remember he was outboxed twice by morales and marquez even though marquez lost. at 135 he only had 1 fight against david diaz who's no world beater. at 140 he deserves credit for showing power against ricky hatton and timing, so he deserves that, but has manny even fought at welterweight fight yet? de la hoya foguth him at welter true, but what was de la hoya at that wieght? that was essentially a catchweight fight. cotto was also picked when roach and manny felt like he was weak from his war with margarito and STILL made him come down under 147. you could say that manny hasn't had a real welterweight fight yet. if he does take on clottey at 147 and beat him then things change, but not as of yet. you can look at floyd and say he's cherry picked fights after 135, but can you really look at manny at say much different? that's another reason why i can't put eithe rof them in a short list of all time greats. the short list would not look at a guy and say : "hmmm he looks like he's about ripe for a beatdown, let's make him eat less a few days before and we'll REALLY have him".
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:00:47 PM
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#1 PacFan "Says no to anymore catchweights!":
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Great article F-Lo aka "PacFan"!!! May I add that Atlas would not apologize before Smith who Atlas received this e-mail garbage from. Pacquiao is just too good that he must be on PED's. Thank you for pointing out that Performance Enhancement Drugs doesn't help a fighter. Great point when you brought up his brother Bobby who I hate to say sucks as a boxer. Mosley used it which resulted him to lose against Oscar. Can it be that Manny is the Magic Man. Now there's a reason why Paulie is hating on him.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:04:01 PM
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Radam G --:
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*shoot 'em up... (I gotta work on my Texas talk, yall heel [sic] ME!) Donputo, are you going to Texas for this bout, parrtneer [sic]? I hear those Texan ladies are awesome! I'm gonna get my flute on with 'em Cowboy cheerleaders. Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:04:10 PM
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bill major:
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this is the only way he'll ever beat manny pacquiao and it dosent mean s&^t except he is a yellow coward who will only fight if he can beat the guys.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:04:37 PM
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paul:
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Floyd Mayweather and his father are really, I can only say this, bad men. They just are bad human beings. That is it, that's the only way to describe them. All other followers, including Oscar De La Hoya, Tedy Atlas, Paulie Malignagi, Cintron, and many others, of the Mayweathers who continue to creat these lies and humiliation toward a humble and gentle man like Manny who happens to be also one of the greatest boxers of all time already to many, and certainly the most exciting fighter today in boxing, are as bad as the Mayweathers who begain these terrible lies and accusations. Their acts should be taken seriously from now on by Pacquiao and court for justice, this is clearly, humiliation and abuse towards the innocent man, who nothing but did succeed through hard work, dedication and his superior talent of what he does, in this case, boxing. And also, ANY PUBLIC who buy into this crap and false conspiration are, let me tell you something, as bad as all of the above. These people cannot seriously have common sense and cannot be considered to be serious boxing fans. I am not big fan of Pacquiao, but I admit, he is the most exciting fighter and gentlest man I ever seen outside of the ring, and these false accusations cannot be accepted. The mental damages they did to Pacquiao should be punished, and that include all journalists who used their pens like Mayweathers' mouths as well. I MEAN THIS, and I AM SURE THIS WILL HAPPEN, SHORTLY. DO NOT ABUSE A GENTLE AND HARD WORKING MAN LIKE MANNY PACQUIAO WHO DID NOTHING BUT GAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT TO ALL OF BOXING FANS AROUND THE WORLD OVER YEARS. PEACE TO THOSE WHO HAVE COMMON SENSE.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:12:09 PM
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donputo69 @Radam G:
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Lmfao...I've been to texas 1 time and it was not a good experience...lol...but trust me...IM GONNA BUY THIS FIGHT....Pacman vs Clottey may very well end up in a classic...holla back!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:14:26 PM
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bigroc:
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"Mayweather overrated from a skill standpoint" should I take anything else you write seriously?
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:17:13 PM
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sun:
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When one is so good, these things happen, read the history books. It's either you praise, appreciate and be inspired or accuse him with fired up jealousy. All of those liars who created this drung nonsense and crap belong to the latter, unfortunately. This only tells us one thing, clearly, Manny Pacquiao is just so good, that people don't know what to do with him. Kudo to Manny. He is really, I begin to think seriously as a boxing fan, the one who comes along once in a lifetime. He's great. No worries, Pacman, these lies and abuses will be gone when the fact, which has been always as it is now, is revealed, that all of these were lies and conspiracies from the Mayweathers, Malignagi and more. When it happens, people will even more cheer for you, Manny, for your action in and out of the ring, and all these accusers will have to deal with what they deserve whether that is fines they have to pay after court decisions or even more, being the jokes of boxing history once and for all. Cheers to the most exciting boxer in the ring, the most gentleman outside of the ring and possibly the greatest fighter of all time in the making.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:19:06 PM
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RIVERSIDE:
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Good article, Frank nailed it, Money may is got the right answer for every question, If asked about tszyu, he would answer "well hatton beat him".Good point Frank, he has never lost, but who has he fought? Money May is got some skills,i wish he would use them more often.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:19:12 PM
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#1 PacFan "Says no to anymore catchweights!":
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@Frank Z, I don't think that the public should demand Manny Pacquiao(without proof) to any type of blood testing when they have not done such a thing to Mosley who has admitted to using PED's. When you take blood test you have to starve 24 hours prior and this can affect him during training. Which is why they didn't want it too close to the fight. Getting cut while fighting is different because whether it's sparring or fight time, the fighter has been able to eat and rehydrate before the fight. I give Mayweather props in the 130-135 only. Jr. Welt was blank like you say but 147 in my opinion as well. Judah was coming off a lost to Baldomir who was a C class fighter in my opinion. For a fighter known to say, "Well he lose to him so why fight him". So why did he fight Judah who already lost to Baldo? There's a pattern in his resume so I suggest you look at that pattern. He fights guys right after they are coming off losses.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:24:51 PM
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Jayde:
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I'm so sick of this PED accusation. I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan but this is ridiculous. On the other hand, I believe Manny should just do the tests. He'll have ample recovery time before the fight. What I would like to see happen: Manny takes a blood test in his dressing room after the Clottey fight (naturally, he'll test negative), Floyd and Manny get it on later in the year, win or lose both fighters will regain their respect and further their legacies.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:29:05 PM
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The Saint:
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If Mayweather was planning on resting on his accomplishments at lightweight, he should've stayed a lightweight rather than ripping off boxing fans by fighting bums for the last 5 years. And for the record, De La Hoya destroyed Hernandez at lightweight before Mayweather ever laid hands on him. Judah was a joke by the time Mayweather fought him. He just got clobbered by Carlos Baldomir and outboxed by Sorry Spinks (even though Judah did avenge that). Mayweather has done NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING as a welterweight.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:34:30 PM
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Frank Z@#1pacfan:
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it's not fair for the public to demand a test from manny,but in the court of public opinion unfortunately it's guilty until proven innocent. as the torch barer for boxing right now manny should i think do all he can do make sure that people understand that he's a clean fighter and this will be a clean fight. being reluctant about a blood test is not something you can blame him for, but floyd woul dhave to do the same, and he would probably actually get affected by it more since hes' much less restricted about his diet than manny was. this was the guy who wouldn't sweat/starve off 2 lbs against marquez too. 147 i don't think is as blank for floyd as most are led to think. zab was coming off a loss, but that made him desperate for a win. his talent always made him dangerous and he had every motivation in the world to beat floyd, financially and legacy wise. baldomir is a C class fighter, and manny beat an A- welter in cotto, but it still gets tainted a bit since it was for cotto's belt at the 145 weight limit. also this is my opinion but 14 days cut off prior to a fight is plenty of time for manny to recover, especially since they have to feed him 5000-6000 calories a day during training just so his weight woudln't slip down into the 130s. as for fighting people coming off losses, let''s not pretend manny has't done the same. de la hoya came off a bad performance against steve forbes, hatton looked good against malignaggi but looked bad agaqinst mayweather and luzcano, cotto looked like the loser against clottey. baldomir was the hot fighter at the time of floyd fighting him, even if he was a C fighter mentally he should have been riding high. ricky hatton was undefeated, oscar had his big KO win over mayorga in the fight before mayweather.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:38:44 PM
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Frank Z@ Saint:
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uh... no he didn't dude, i watched that fight and it was decently competitive throughout, then hernandez quit on his own after taking a hard shot from oscar to the nose. mayweather dominated every minute of their fight.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:40:40 PM
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Radam G -- knows how the money of the game works:
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Karma is a mutha! Lil' Floyd is a beaten man walking. He will the one that somebody is fighting after he comes off his loss. The hurt bitnezz is not only seedy, it is big business. Moneyless May has made a lot of enemies in his adopted city of Las Vedas. The last time that Manny fought there, the economy made 900 mil in three days from gambling, shopping, licensed prostituting, eating out, hoteling, transportation, parking fines, bail money for arrests for wilding or clowning, etc., etc. Vegas' residences and workers needing work and the funds that Pacquiao-Mayweather bout would have drawn are peed off at Moneyless May and Family May. Maybe Lil' Floyd will be moving to Europe -- probably Manchester to tangle with Redcoat Ricky in a second bout. Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:47:11 PM
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RG - booboo I see:
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*He will be the one...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 04:50:50 PM
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#1 PacFan "Says no to anymore catchweights!":
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Let me rephrase that for you, it's INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY not guilty until proven innocent. If that's how the system works then why need a court system? A man is sentence due to criminating evidence and not sentenced due to the belief of innocense. I think you have it all backwards. Scareweather will not be affected as much as Manny because of their physicalities. Manny is considered the smaller man who will be affected by it the most. Scareweather is also a physical phenom but has yet to prove the world to greater opponents. Judah was coming off not just that loss but two more before that. He got KTFO by Tzyu and lost to Spinks but later avenged. I rate Judah as the same as PM who are guys that can never get over the hump. Baldomir is nothing more than a journeyman. He received a gift stoppage with Clottey who would've won if he didn't use his head at the end. Oscar didn't lose the fight with Forbes, Hatton TKOed Paulie, and Cotto won a deserving decision. Those aren't losses they're wins. Hatton was undefeated but he didn't belong at 147, Oscar beat a punching bag in Mayorga but lost by stoppage by Hopkins.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:02:33 PM
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swift:
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I have one question for all of you mayweather fans. Do you really think mayweather looks for the toughest fights out there? I'm mean the excuses coming from mayweather fans are pathetic! I'm a big Roy Jones fan, but I'm not stupid, I saw the guy simply avoid a lot of fighters with excuses, and then fight guys like Tony Thorton, Antoine Byrd and Pazienza. Instead of guys like Chris Eubank, Gerald McClellan, Nigel Benn or Steve Collins. Not to mention the whole Darius Michaelzski thing. Roy had excuses and now floyd is a carbon copy, blessed with incredible gifts, but will forever be known as the reluctant warrior...
When has a fighter dictated the way testing for a fight should be done?? Mayweather has really stepped up his bullshit game!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:05:59 PM
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in touch:
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Another great article, Frank! All points are valid and dead on acurate.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:11:50 PM
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SALT lover:
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XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lotierzo, you forgot to mention the DUMB argument of Floyd's hand substances. XD!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, why didn't you mentioned that? That was the last nonsense you forgot to write besides all the rest that you wrote, and can't find anymore. Another article provin' Lotierzo can't get Floyd out of his head, and showin' what kind of views he has about this whole thing: Simplistic. First of all, Pacquiao cannot be possibily "overshadowin'" Floyd, cuz Floyd, being the most hated, is always thought to lose the fight, and that's one of the main reasons why Pacquiao's famous. It's the idea of Pacquiao KO Floyd that got him where he is; in other words, Floyd's hatred that boosts the love for Pacquiao. When you root for a guy against another, if the other guy's theme in the sport is to be hated, then he's being looked good. Second, I'm so tired to repeatin' it: Pacquiao testin' clean don't mean CRAP! Mosley tested negative and clean, was he clean Lotierzo? NO! Jones always tested clean, was he clean all the time in his career? Again, NO! Just cuz a fighter in boxin' has tested clean in test results doesn't mean he's clean, there are hundreds of chemical agents to conceal the 'roids (Roach and Ariza most know about this). I'm not sayin' Pacquiao's usin' steroids, now that a tests can't catch anybody, but that is a sorry @ss argument to defend him these days when there are hundreds of ways to cheat a drug test. Third, XD!!!!!!!!! I guess you were waitin' for the so-called apology of Teddy Atlas and ESPN, and since it ain't comin' (I'm still waitin' for it though; I don't know what happened), now you have to respond to that little paragraph, talkin' smack about Teddy Atlas, who knows more about boxin' than all of us combined (Readers and writers), and mind me, I don't always agree with him, but he knows more boxin' than you. A guys that has been predictin' Pacquiao's wins since I can remember, now all of a sudden to you he can't take Pacquiao's success. And the question "So what happens now?" you answered the same simple thin' any FANATIC, Floyd hater would say: "Oh, now Floyd will fight another that don't present any dagner to him, Oh, oh". What happens now? What happens now is that they will BOTH compete in the PPV March 13th date to see who's gettin' the bigger purse in the fall, that's what will happen now. The 50-50 split is no good for Floyd and Arum, they both want the bigger purse. That's what this is all about: it ain't about legacy, it ain't about PEDs, it ain't about provin' or whatever ya'll think as if this was them playin' PS3; for these guys it's all about the money. Boxin' for them is a business. It is a sport for the likes of Pacquiao, who don't run their careers and are playin' guitars and toys, and shootin' commercials while their bosses like Arum are in the business table doin' the deal, and while the likes of Koncz are suckin' them dry, but it is a business for the likes of Floyd, Arum, Schaeffer, De la Hoya and stuff. Smart business man doin' their stuff. Lotierzo, you got all those things so out of your head, man. You should be writin' here with the readers and not writin' up there with Woods, Avila, and stuff like that. XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work, man. I'm enjoyin' it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:17:25 PM
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The Saint:
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@Frank Z: So we're arguing about Mayweather's lightweight legacy now? He fought Hernandez roughly 3 years after DLH chewed and spit out Hernandez. If you think that DLH-Hernandez was competitive, I don't know what else to tell you.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:18:34 PM
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energy:
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Very biased article. You obviously do not like Floyd Mayweather, and I can not respect your very biased opinions.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:18:48 PM
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The Saint:
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@SALT lover: I figured it out YOU ARE TEDDY ATLAS! Hence the burning jealousy and denial. Let's see here. Kounted out is Floyd Mayweather Sr., Brownsugar is Floyd Mayweather Jr. Guys, we have a whole bunch of celebrities on here! lol
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:20:58 PM
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Frank Z@#1pacfan:
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it's not like that in public opinion. where's the innocence until proven guilty for all those baseball players and track stars? even if it were true, manny's not helping by suing, cause he's gonna look guilty to some people no matter what, especially for 40 million bucks he's walking. cotto did deserve to win but that's more from clottey losing, and you can't deny cotto looked very very vulnerable in the fight. baldo's a journeyman but is david diaz much better? 3k battery? hatton is bad at 147 because those are bigger guys, and his styole is essentially be the bigger man and bully you. people were calling floyd to fight hatton when they were both 140, i don't see it as a disadvantage to allow them 7 extra lbs because of hatton's habit of blowing up. oscar was fighting a competitive fight with hopkins before hopkins caught him with the body shot. also that punching back beat vernon forrest (RIP) twice so it's not as if the dude coudln't fight, and my point with that was that oscar should have been physically and mentally at his peak since the early part of the decade. he had freddie roach in his corner and got to spar with shane mosley to prepare for that fight. Also, don't drag back every loss like you did with judah. you wouldn't like it if i dragged back manny getting KO'd or outboxed by morales. the fact is judah at the time had every motivation to win, and he believed himself to be the bigger man, faster man, and harder puncher than mayweather.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:22:34 PM
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donputo69 @The Saint:
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lmfao...im max kellerman...always speaking the truth and hurting people's feelings...lmfao...holla back!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:27:34 PM
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donputo69:
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Radam G is george foreman....#1PacFan is Emanuel Steward...ali is Jim Lampley...AFN is larry merchant....Real Talk is Brian Kenny...lol...holla back!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:30:04 PM
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Anonymous user:
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You are the worst boxing writer EVER, Pac chose another opponent who will be a sitting duck against him regardless of much bigger Clottey is. Come on man u are starting to lose all credibility as a boxing writer
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:31:52 PM
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Frank Z@ Saint:
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i was just replying to you twisting facts.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:35:28 PM
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Frank Z@ Saint:
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it was competitive in the sense that hernandez wasn't getting completely manhandled yes.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:37:36 PM
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boxingfan:
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Golden Boy Promotions' blatantly hypocritical stance on a stricter drug testing for boxing is evident in the upcoming Mosley-Berto fight. Drug testing for this one apparently is not an issue. Hmmm...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:42:17 PM
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Dumb Dumb:
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News:
Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach wins jury verdict
Floyd Mayweather Jr’s trainer Roger Mayweather on trial to face battery charges alleged by a female boxer. What you think? guilty or not guilty? ouch!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 05:44:59 PM
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brownsugar:
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unpresidented no... Tyson demanded that Holyfield submit to steroid testingbefore their first fight,.. yes the mighty Tyson himself,.. which didn't concern Holy at all... and then Holyfield proceeded to show Tyson what he was really made of... Bowe demanded that Golatta take a steroid test after gettin manhandled in their first nutsack crushing encounter... (just read this in a boxing article today, and it's confirmed),.. so drug tests were being conducted in the early 90's nearly 18-20 years ago... Wow,.. and recently a P4P Living Legend gets emotionally offended,.. abandons 40$million and spend money for on a lawsuit on a guy whose only ghetto fabulous in the financial sense,.. instead of taking it personal and taking it out of Floyds arse,.. while getting paid at the same time???... now Pac is threatening to sue Teddy Atlus too,..I wonder how many People Pac will try to sue untill he makes the whole world shut the f@#k up???... Wow...these are fighters we're talking about...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 06:03:06 PM
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Big Rog@Radam G:
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So a man who calls himself "money" and as Radam confirms is "money short" is gonna wimp out at a chance of making 40mill? Ya'll gone crayzeeeeee????He wants to whip Manroids "punk a.." and who can blame him? Denying him of all that cash. Must be a reason why Manroid? Hollow!!!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 06:44:25 PM
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SALT lover@donputo69:
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Dude, you're most likely to be Larry Merchant XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALWAYS on Floyd's case and criticizin' him, Hehehehehehe.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 06:58:30 PM
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Radam G -- know about suing:
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B-Sug, PacMan is going to sue, sue, sue! That is the only way that you straighten out arsehole in the game. Sue 10 or 20 and scare the fudge out a thousand or two. I'm glad that you guys didn't know me back in the day -- late 80s and early 90s. Go and check out the sues against Don King, Murad Muhammad, Bob Lee and the IBF, ______(the court has restricted me from calling that mutha's name) and the WBF, the WBC, the California and Texas athletic sports commissions, and probably some other suckas that I'm not remembering right now.. I sued all these mutha and won BIG! Boxing is big money business and there are rules and regs. And the clowns will pay with their moola, nobody cares about their frowns and their stupid sounds. You mess up, you pay up and shut the fudge up! That is life in the legal mayhem biz.. Man, I even won sues in amateur boxing and a television that went out of business because it had to pay up. (This station was ESPN competition back then.) Why do you think that the AAU let amateur boxing go? And when it became its own enterprise known as ABF -- American Boxing Federation -- I won sues against that too. AGAIN! Boxing is seedy and BIG BUSINESS, so those with the BIG BUCKS will sue the SEEDY BIG BUSINESS at the drop of a dime. The only ones who don't sue are those fighters with no money, backing, support or learning. Bottomline, Family May and GBP are going to PAY BIG! Teddy Atlas is cool! He just got caught up in INTERNET clutter, humbuggery and poppycock. He is a very professional guy. And he will not be sued because he is also all MAN and know how to make amends when he's been tricked and is wrong. And Ducky May will lose in 2010 hook, book or cook! Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:03:30 PM
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Radam G:
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*television station...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:07:12 PM
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Azyd:
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Floyd is a proven drug user - Xylocaine a drug to remove pain in (broken) fist and the punches received of course! the guy had the audacity to accuse Manny of drug use but he is quilty as HELL! oh, yes he also cheated Juan Manuel Marquez by coming overweight over agreed weight limit, geniune cheater, what a bummer!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:11:17 PM
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Fighting Irish:
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Thanks for the very objective article. Floyd do not deserve to be called a boxer. He is a circus showman and a disgrace to boxing.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:18:44 PM
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alan:
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floyd is scared of pacquiao. period! ...that random blood testing demand is just a facade for floyd to chicken out from pacman fight.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:22:09 PM
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Radam G @ B-Sug:
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There are so many things that the fine TSS fightwriters just don't write about or know about -- more than likely -- just don't write about. For instance, I will tell you about these boxers' bitnezz because they told me that it is cool. You will never know that U.S. amateur boxing tried to block Fernando Vargas from going to the Olympics because he spoke to professional promoters and they bought him a meal or two and lost money that he found. A suit gave him a settlement and his entitlement back to represent the U.S. A similar thing happened to Andre Berto. He got robbed badly in the U.S. Olympic Trails because of it and made a settle to represent his parents' nation of Haiti. My greatest condolences to Haitians for what they are now going through. I've made my point but I could name about 12 boxers who won BIG lawsuits from the boxing powers that be in the amateurs and professionals. I'm sure that a sharp cat like you can find everything that I'm that I am hollering about. I know that TSS fightscribes can. Maybe they ought to write stories about boxing's hardcore darkside and underworld. You can probably go to Youtube hit boxing darkside and some heavy shizzzeee will pop up. Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:27:34 PM
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poison:
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Floyd went from featherweight to jr. middleweight for the oscar de la hoya fight...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:28:39 PM
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Jix:
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My thoughts exactly. Floyd wil never fight someone he considers a treat. He ducked people before, he ducked Pacman this time.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:33:26 PM
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ramborge:
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thick faced mayweather!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:55:11 PM
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Rob:
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Interesting thought from Keith Kizer on taking blood and risks it involves. Just imagine and its happened to me before. I went to the lab for blood test and they had to insert the needle like 4 times since they were missing the vein. My arm felt really sore that day. Just imagine for fighters to go through that and maybe even postpone the fight coz the opposing fighter had to pull out because of an infection because the environment was not sterile. Thats gonna suck if that did happen.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 07:56:58 PM
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DCRJ:
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And Floyd Mayweather Jr's legacy continue to move on as the coward and the ducker plus the dictator he has always been, the ruler of his own mind, the ruler of his own world, suffering from delusion of grandeur, believing that his zero loses is enough to make him one of the greatest fighter of all time. that's right 'who have you beat?' Floyd
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:02:31 PM
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#1boxingfan:
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Mayweather should fight Bobby Pacquio because he is not PED user. At least he can prove himself that he is not scared with this word "PACQUIO"!!!!!!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:18:02 PM
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aTLAST:
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Why mayweather did not ask Marquez to have a blood test?WOW!!! why ask manny? What is he scared of? WOW!! Why single out Manny? because an Asian boxer is dominating boxing? jEALOUS, eNVIOUS? WOW!! There is an upcoming fight by Mosley and Berto, one is a proven steroid user, why there is no blood testing? schaefer will say dont treat them like a cheat coz they are not cheaters! why Manny? WOW!! because its unbelievable that he grew up and fought from 106lbs to 144 lbs? Floyd fought from 106lbs to 154 lbs!! and yet he is undefeated so he must have cheated! WOW!! Floyds argument " I cherry picked, ducked and doped to be successful so he must be on doped too coz he did not cherry picked and ducked opponents"!!WOW!! Who in the history of boxing undertaken random blood testing? none? are they all cheaters? Ali, sugar ray, hearns? WOW!! Who is a proven drug user? Floyd uses Xylocaine to numb his hands, it enhances the performance of his hands so it is a PED! and yet he accuse Manny of using PED? WOW!! If he's got brittle hands, then play soccer instead then Floyd may say "I've been a sucker all my life, what yo talkin about!" S O C C E R floyd not S U C K E R! where you use your feet! Floyds response: " hey man, I always use my feet, I'm a runner in the ring what yo talkin about!" What else can we say but WOW DUCKER!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:19:01 PM
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LEO PEREZ:
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FLOYD JUNIOR SCREWED THE BOXING WORLD....DESERVED TO HIM RETIRE AND NEVER COME BACK FROM HIS GRAVE..SELFISH,GREEDY AND FRAUD!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:22:13 PM
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EXAMINERAUTHOR:
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Congratulations Mr. Lotierzo. You're great.
I simply doubt Mayweather Jr will fight again. The world is now closely watching over him because the world now very well knows that he is using illegal drugs -the XYLOCAINE. He cannot fight without it because of the pain in his hands. DRUG USER MAYWEATHER, SON OF THE CONVICTED DRUG TRAFFICKER, MANAGED BY FIGHT QUITTER ODLH
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:30:28 PM
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ali:
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If pac KOs Clottey is with out a doubt on somethen.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:34:40 PM
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brownsugar@RadamG:
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Radam,...thanks for the comments,... a good read as always,.. but Pac can't sue the world,.. and all the legal intimidation available thru his checkbook won't quiet the wagging toungues of millions fans,.. it only draws more attention to the question and amplifies the roar of the doubters,... the only place this fight should have taken place is in the ring... Holyfield did it,.. took the tests passed and looked Tyson in the eyes while he whipped him like a stepchild...whether Holy ever used PED's or not,... he shut the mouths of those who thought he was too desiel to be real(the Real Deal Holyfield),.. and he went on to forged a legacy that cannot be in doubt,.. instigating fear and legal intimidation thru persecution only creates martyrs,.. and more desenters,.. as a potential Political leader,.. Pac should know this,.. and as a prize fighter Pac should have taken advantage of the free hype produced by the Mayweather team,.. reaped the rewards,.. punished Mayweather in the ring the way fighters do,.. and then sued him later,.. if he still felt the need... my point is,.. things went horribly wrong with the potential fight of the century,.. the same cloud that hovers over Mayweather,.. hovers over Team Pac as well.....and it's not going away anytime soon...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:34:59 PM
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Michael:
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Wow...once again, the ignorance of some writers continue to amaze me. First of all, he states that not one fighter has ever been aided in punching power through PEDs. And what makes this author a credible source to make such a statement? Secondly, he tries to claim that it's no big deal if Pacquiao has used PEDs to enhance his campaign through the ranks of boxing. Then he blasts Mayweather for not wanting to fight a potentially chemically enhanced opponent. God forbid that Mayweather looks out for his own safety in the ring (sarcasm). This is just yet another case of a biased journalist with an agenda making wild and unsupported comments without quotations or citations.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 08:45:59 PM
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Radam G @ B-Sug:
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Please go to Youtube, whenever you have a hour or two, and view "Boxing in and out of the ring - Boxing's Darkside 7-10 and Don King Story 1-10. You will find these documentaries very revealing and enlightened. Wow! Your eyes will be OPENED, if you haven't ever seen those documentaries. This game is BIG BUSINESS -- sleaze or breeze, easy or greasy, hot or not, stand and fight, or you will get your arse knocked out of sight. It ain't no joke, this seedy $hit will make you choke. Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:08:02 PM
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benjichauffer:
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Duckweather is a COWARD Fighter
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:21:56 PM
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Radam G :
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There are lot of things that fans and outsiders will never know. PacMan will not be a martyr. He will benefit strongly for standing up. In Texas, with all those billionaire butts in those seats and suites, Manny will take home 30mil without Ducky May. In Ducky May's next bout, he will again make about 10mil and fib that he made 15mil. Ducky May should have been Sucky May because he is now becoming unLucky May. Boxing is very cruel to those who play long. They usually play wrong. Holla!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:22:12 PM
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FE'ROZ :
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Everything outside of the ring is BS. Let's see if Floyd fights, who he choses. The Wait is excruciating. In the meantime, I'm going to enjoy watching other worthy fighters do what they do. Fight. In the ring.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:22:49 PM
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FE'ROZ :
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I want to be on record as stating that everything that transpired with only serve to make the pot richer when and if these two meet. Their failed negotiations aside, all parties know that. I have been consistent since day one in saying to 'let the pot brew'....before signing. Well it is! And damn near bubbling over. But now it's time to move on. The "Test" bruhaha will disappear because no one really believed in fighting for principles that neither believe in or have. The 'furor' will become hermetic; as in sealed within our community. The suits, both the human and the legal, or whatever have their own lives. People fight and fuck; businessmen sue and make deals. With each other. It happens every day. In the meantime, let's talk about fights that are happening. For the moment, Floyd hasn't announced. The world will continue to turn it's attention to those who have. Mosely, Berto, Juanma, Gamboa, Clottey. And yes, Manny. In March, he will have fought six (6) times since March of '08. That is one of many reasons he has become the face of boxing. Visibility. In that same time, Floyd has fought exactly.....Once. One time. If there is one thing that is axiomatic among agents and talent, it's that stardom requires visibility. One fight is just not enough to keep that star so bright. For Floyd, the talk is over. It' time to fight
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:39:49 PM
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floyd has the skills to whip pacman just look what cotto did when he started to box slick for a bit. pacsroids ducked floyd saying that floyd has ducked a lot of fighters over the years but not this time with pacman
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:47:57 PM
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manuel:
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@brownsugar@RadamG
They all ask for steriods test, but you forgot to mention RANDOM BLOOD TEST OLYMPIC STYLE.
check it again if it was like that before commenting
Friday Jan 15, 2010 09:56:21 PM
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brownsugar@Fe'Roz:
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Amen,.. Fe'Roz,.. activity speaks for itself...
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:07:18 PM
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Huna:
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@FRANK Z: You're recollection of Boxing History is WRONG.
Pacman and Morales fought Three times, First time Morales won 12 UD, Second FIght Pacman by 10round TKO, THird FIght 3rd Round Knockout. SO how do you figure Morales out boxed Pacman Twice, When he only finished the fight one of three times?
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:10:23 PM
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FE'ROZ @ Brownsugar :
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What are your thoughts on the actual battle between Shane and Berto ? Let's talk boxing. pc
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:16:43 PM
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clark:
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You nailed man! A very good article and one that is very straight to the point. Atlas and smith are such pathetic and don't bring the credibility for in there articles. GOD Bless!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:27:53 PM
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Mayweather fans:
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Just to clear things up people... Drug test is not the issue here! DRUG TEST IS NOT THE ISSUE, the issue is WHEN to take the test! Understand this people "WHEN" is the issue not the drug testing...
So for Gayweather it is a big deal, sucking PAC's blood before the fight is very different than sucking his blood right after the fight.
Gayweathers' believe that some dope can be flushed out your system within 48 hours. That's why they want it before the fight. 48 hours is equal (=) to 14 days...get it... They want it before the fight you know to add some egg cause lack the balls.
Does chicken have balls? No seriously I don't know... Cause if he really wana prove that pac is on PED he'll agree with a blood test right after the fight and demand $20m if PAC tested positive on HGH/PED. The fight will be on and he'll be a $20m richer. Win win on Gayweather rights? But, the catch is, what if he's just an overrated chicken and got beat up so bad that he'll look like an ugly duckling after the fight. It'll be too bad for the chicken's career cause he knows he'll be out of the lime light and bye bye cash monkeys... The $40 will be his last major payday.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:31:02 PM
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Jethro:
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If you smell like a duck you're a duck. Floyd belongs to the pond.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:44:25 PM
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nuckle:
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All I know is if I refuse a random drug test from my job I'll be fired. Because that's a sign of guilt. Not saying somebody's guilty it just look suspect
Friday Jan 15, 2010 10:54:09 PM
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philborda:
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Excellent analysis specially the Bobby Pacquiao angle. Why didn't Pacquiao let Bobby use what he is using, if he is actually using something? He wasn't caught, so most likely Bobby won't be caught as well. Plus, Filipino values won't forgive Pacquiao for not sharing something he has to a brother.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 11:12:00 PM
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alexis:
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hey frank you nailed it...why would not Manny share the PED's or HGH to his Brother Bobby Pacquaio so that they can share the Pound per Pound spot.heheheh just joking there you nailed it right.PACMAN is clean...thanks for this kind of article this makes air clearer and removes the smokescreen..GOD bless and Peace
Friday Jan 15, 2010 11:29:31 PM
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grumpy:
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Zero loss is the only thing Floyd has, with a single loss or even a draw on his boxing resume, he is nothing that's why all by crooks he has to undertake in order to retain his zero loss record.
Friday Jan 15, 2010 11:35:54 PM
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FranktheRiceEater:
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LOL @ Radam G!
Friday Jan 15, 2010 11:39:45 PM
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Real Talk:
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Haters everywhere we go , haters everywhere we go! Thatsong pops to mind when I read the article and the comments. You got one guy saying Mayweather is GREAT one month...then the next saying he's everything but. Teddy Atlas picked Pacman to win against Oscar...now that he says Pac camp ask about what thepenalty would be for being dirty....people try to make him out to be a hater. Funny clown $hyt there. Fact is ..none of you know if he is or he isn't.....but you act like you do. Herpes cream steroids...? Funny and childish if you ask me. I think Berto will look good in the fight but will get caught and KO'd. He better have been working hard on his craft. Dueces
Friday Jan 15, 2010 11:51:08 PM
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Isaiah:
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You all forgot someone. The Saint is Manny Pacquiao. I mean, the name fits perfectly! HA! In all seriousness, why is anything still being typed up about KenDUCKy Floyd Chicken? (We do chicken right!) I tried to reach Floyd for comment. His response? "BUCK,BUCK, BCUUUUUUUK!" Think about it. Floyd likes the "BUCKS" and that's the sound a chicken makes, but he's to chicken to go for the big bucks. Sweet irony. MY JOB may require me to take a random drug test, but being a professional boxer is not a regular job and is not under the same rules as normal workers, so that kind of logic just flys out the window. Cmon Floyd lovers! You all have to try harder than that to defend CowardWeather, but I don't blame you all for failing in doing that since it's getting to be about impossible to defend the man, man being very loosely defined. HA!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:04:55 AM
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Smiley C:
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Boxing is the world, no doubt! They are both crazier than a motherfu**** fo sure!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:07:44 AM
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Zans:
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floyd fans cannot accept fact that there idol is a coward and instead they keep on saying manny dont want to have blood test theyre twisting the truth. The truth is manny is willing to take the test even if its not in the rules take note even if its not in the nevada rules but voila floyd was just so scared men we all know except floyd fans (which until now are in denials that floyd is a coward) that he duck the best compitition out their this is a fact not email from a reliable source.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:08:28 AM
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PRIZEFIGHT:
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BORGES- Mayweather fan, LOTIERZO- Pac fan LOL
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:13:41 AM
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Charles Xavier:
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I've got a great solution!! Pacquiao should agree to that 19 day before the bout drug testing crap if ChickenMayweather fights 2 top welterweights consecutively before facing Pacquiao and wins. How about that?
LoL wow.. Floyd Mayweather Jr is a straight phonie..
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:21:52 AM
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FE'ROZ :
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Breaking News. The random test that Floyd and manny took nine days ago are back. Both are negative. That according to Keith Kizer, head of NSAC... two hours ago. Sorry Test-Queens. I wish I had better news.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:45:16 AM
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FiteFan:
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Manny should've request no use of the PED, Xylocaine, which Mayweather uses. If May wanted to play the drug card, let him.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:54:08 AM
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Glenn:
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The main question is if indeed MANNY is on steroid, right? Well, doesn't the blood testing after the fight will prove if it true or not? Since Manny agreed to that test what are all these circus going around? Floyd is indeed a coward.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 01:30:54 AM
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mortcola:
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For all you amnesiacs: Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine. Perhaps I'm not making the subtleties of this clear. Pac just wouldn't agree to the full random access Floyd demanded. But - I want to make myself clear: Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 01:39:06 AM
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carlos j. ante:
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The last two questions of this article summarises the question hanging on the head of those who has doubt to who is better between the two elite fighters.
"who have beat me?" To which it can easily be retorted by saying, "who have you beat?"
Who the 2 fighters has beaten? Sorry Mayweather fans, your Li'l Floyd is great businessman than a truely great boxer. History will tell unless he deafeats pacman without going around the existing protocol of boxing.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 02:04:58 AM
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Apo ni Pepe:
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mayweather is indeed overated..so is ODLH. i can't envision them competing on even terms with the likes of leonard, hearns, duran in the welterweight division back in the days..unlike the PACMAN who is truly a phenomenon and a certified all time great..peace!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 02:16:24 AM
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miND gaMEs:
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Everyone has an opinion as they say. But you will not win a liars game ever. The question will be, who is a liar anyway?. The answer, you will not prove him wrong or right ever...
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 02:46:38 AM
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kabuto:
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Floyd is a hypocrite to accuse Pacquiao of using PEDS while his the one taking them.
Floyd admittedly takes Xylocaine and have it injected in his hands before, so that he will feel no pain when he throws punches. Ain't that unfair advantage against his opponents? And xylocaine is banned as a performance enhancement drug... in most states but not Nevada. So that's the reason why he never wanted to fight Pacman somewhere else but in Vegas only.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 03:10:04 AM
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kountedout:
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just bc the test came back clean doesnt mean he is not dirty. oh i robbed the bank and they didnt find the money in my house. so i guess i didnt rob the bank. this is not the time to test somebody using steroids. shannon briggs tested positive when he fought not when he is not fighting. do you honestly think manny was going to test dirty right now. thats why you have to have random testing with him.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 03:16:28 AM
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PRIZEFIGHT@mortcola:
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LOL, all the FLOYD FANATICS already knows that. They're just in the state of denial that's all.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 03:34:03 AM
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PRIZEFIGHT@Big Rog AKA BIG BOY:
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Dude' you better get your facts right.. You've been intoxicated by praising FLOYD SR. Try to clean out your system before putting in comments here. Seriosly..
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 03:44:04 AM
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arnie:
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That's a nice one Frank...' how come that Bobby Pacquiao was never strong as his brother if Manny has it then he should had shared bobby that PED so that he too will become champion and he won't be feeding him and his family up to this date?..nice one Frank! I hope you share some of your qualities to Ron Borges so that he'll learn to think first before he writes..of course no offense here, I still like Borges and I hope he 'll drink more Vit E to gain that lost brilliancy in his writing.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:01:47 AM
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Big Rog:
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Anyone who calls an an elite boxer a chicken aint never stepped in the ring. Theres only one type of ring ya'll familiar with. Hollow!!!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:10:09 AM
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brownsugar@Fe'Roz:
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Berto gets lucky ... youth overcomes age,.. and speed defies power...and Berto keeps his chin tucked away...Berto by split D
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:15:02 AM
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Dr Bill:
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If pac was on steroids then he would be bald, cant have children, prostrate cancer, hot tempered,acne & high blood. He doesnt have any of these side effect.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:17:44 AM
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brownsugar:
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it takes less than14 days for juice to take effect,... and can only be detected with a blood test,... and less than 24 hours to mask,... anything less than 14 days is irrelevent,.. or the cycle takes effect and gets missed in a test anyway...if Manny was ever using the stuff,.. he'd have to be a fool to be caught by a pre-announced test...the way the NASC did it,... they might as well not tested at all....
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:21:59 AM
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Dr Bill:
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If pac was on steroid why didnt he give his brother the same mysterious steroid to make him great and make lots of money?
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:23:47 AM
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shiroamada:
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One trainer said that Pac avoids black american fighters. "Success breeds hate" as what Brad Cooney stated and personally, it's true. Now, even black american fighters need a fat payday just to face pacman. I can only think of Tim Bradley, worthy to face pacman in terms of a brawl and excitement still i don't think he will last. Tim may win the early rounds but he will lose steam and kiss the canvass before being counted out.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 05:18:25 AM
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Isaiah:
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Go back to the hen coop KenDUCKy Floyd Chicken. Thanks for ruining one of the biggest potential fights in history. Man, how many times do I have to present the REAL facts to show the Floyd fans how wrong they are? I'm tired of posting it. Look it up yourselves. One thing I have to admire about you Mayweather fans, your loyality knows no bounds. Squeeze them nut$ tight you all. Pay no attention to how doctors and nurses are saying how unlimited urine tests are more then enough to detect steroids. Go ahead and ignore the FACT that the 3 blood tests Manny agreed to would make it IMPOSSIBLE to slip anything through as can be shown by ANY legit medical practice. Go ahead and ignore the fact that 24 days before the fight and right after the fight in the dressing room would, SIMPLY PUT, NOT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR PEDS TO LEAVE THE BODY! THIS IS NOT FICTION, THIS IS FACT! Where are you all getting your facts from?! I'm getting mine from the actual medical field in hospitals and associated areas! Where are you nut$ huggers coming from with this stuff?! Is it the "Mayweather, I'm the Greatest Fantasy World"?! HA! Even including the strenous training and whatever Manny would go through in the fight itself, it simply can't be done, to get anything like that out of your body that quickly! To paraphase from the rapper Common, "Open your eyes! The beast has told you the lies!" Let no loyality be so extreme that it will blind you in ignorance to whatever wrong your hero does and realize what he is. He's a straight up coward and disgrace and can talk street, but that's it. His boxing skills are superb, but I feel bad for you blind followers who will never get to see them used at their best against a real challenge and you will still proclaim his greatness! I'm not calling Pac a Saint. He not loyal to his wife and I'm not crazy about that, but that's THEIR bussiness. Floyd cheating and being a whiny crybaby in boxing and expects me to pay top dollar for his antics becomes MY bussiness! I hear Oscar De La Hoya is dedicating his next book to all the Mayweather nut huggers everywhere. It's titled, "How to be a lying, greedy, hypocrite Floyd nuthugger, hold on tight and never let go." Subtitled, "False accusations". Guest author, Teddy Atlas. Price of the book you ask? Floyd says, "Pay the price I tell you to pay tricks!" HA!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 05:36:21 AM
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EXACTLY! Who's DUMB enough to think that urine tests (even blood tests) at THIS particular moment would be positive? XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As if anybody would be puttin's steroids here these days for a fight that is in almost two months! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! P-L-E-A-S-E!!!!! Man, the Nevada State Athletic Commission's LAME when it comes to drug tests. I guess some fighters laugh their a$$es off from them.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 07:43:22 AM
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Sir: You are absolutely correct, Mr.( Ms,?) Mayweather has no intention of fighting Pacman. He just wants to beat Pacman's accomplishments because it is already more impressive than his and he wants to it outside of the ring. He is so concerned with his undefeated record which makes him scared of taking challenges. I think you should retire again Mr Floyd.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 07:57:30 AM
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i think i have a solution to tackle the issue of ped's between pacman and floyd. Mayweather wants to ensure that manny is clean and wont have any advantage over him. He wants an assurance that nothing of any peds goes into the pacman body. On the other hand manny does not want it ramdomly and is not comfortable with the thought that blood testing may be done too near fight time.
Why dont we film both fighters 24/7 for three months: one month before training until after the fight time. This has so many advantages: 1. Floyd can keep track of what Manny is doing on a 24-hour basis for 3 -4 months., 2. Manny will be able to prove that he is not taking anything, as per his claim. 3. HBo can take advantage of this to hype the fight, and maybe earn something out of the 24/7 coverage.
I have in mind so many other advantages of having a 24/7 camera monitoring these guys,mostly income opportunities for HBO. However, i see one drawback, and that is, that the strategies of both camps will be exposed.
What do you thin guys? Well. . . . i think that if mayweather wants this fight, it caan still happen in the near future, unless he is a true to form ducker.
If moneyman really wanted this fight and is in doubt of manny being clean, i think he will want to consider this humble suggestion.,
Well, i think thiss is water under the bridge, but this water (thirst for pac and mayw. bout) will keep on flowing.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 08:06:32 AM
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EXACTLY! Who would be DUMB enough to put steroids in these days almost two months before the next fight? XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so STUPID! Those urine samples don't mean NOTHIN' at this particular moment, it probably don't mean nothin' shortly after the fight, much less now more than a month to go. As when Pacquiao said he was willin' to a blood test 30 days before the fight HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who the hell's gonna put steroids 30 days before the event???!!!!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 08:57:14 AM
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Ooops! Hehehehehe, sorry TSS. I just thought you erased it the first time. Please, erase the second one, I already proved my point in the first one. Thank you!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 08:58:18 AM
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The Saint:
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On a happy note, my side is still aching over mayweather getting exposed as a real fraud (oxymoron?). i just know he's cowering somewhere as he has no choice but to fight a real fighter. pacquiao would've been a smart choice because he at least meets floyd's requirement of having come from a lower weightclass. lol
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 09:30:02 AM
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FE'ROZ :
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By the reasoning of those who accuse, no man can ever be cleared of suspicion. Ask Lance armstrong. The French have dnd continue to try to impugn his name and reputation despite his overcoming cancer and being drained of blood in ad nauseam testing. Every time he has been cleared there is still someone who wants and claims he has been masking better than the others. I can tell you from spending time in French cycling circles that the suspicion still exists. They 'hate' that he has won 'their' race seven consecutive times. They are desperate to believe it. nothing will ever convince his skeptics. Sound familiar? And BTW, Lance has many many lawsuits going simultaneously. Every time he is attacked WITHOUT evidence, he attacks back in court. That is what you do when you are the best in your sport, unjustly accused, and when those libelous accusations impact the outside endorsements that are either in place and/or under consideration. That is business. Every business. Boxing is no different. with the kind of money at stake for an athlete of Manny's caliber, accusations are very costly. And those that make them will have to pay; either in the ring or to their lawyers.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 09:40:51 AM
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Detroit_Slugger:
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Don't know bout ya'll, but Floyd is making us brothers look bad.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 09:55:17 AM
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Frank Z@ Huna:
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cause the first time morales clearly outboxed him, 2nd fight was competitive until morales' body failed him, he had already been struggling getting down in weight up until that time, the 3rd time he was mentally and physically done and pacquiao finished him. don't try to argue boxing history with me kid.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 09:56:33 AM
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El MAROMERO @ Lotierzo:
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Mayweather is what he is but he gives u something to write about, cause 20% of your articles are about him. You should be thankful
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 10:04:08 AM
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Frank Z@ Saint:
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ah the "they're just thugs" argument, good deal. very credible. isn't pacquiao the one with the tattoos and the ear rings? i'm not saying it means anything, cause it doesn't, but you're sounding crazy now my friend.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 10:15:58 AM
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you are right anyone who have the nerve to call someone a chicken has never stepped in a boxing ring and will never do it. they are just arm chair qb's who want to sit back and say I woulda or I coulda. just to show you how much they hate floyd they are saying he is using something illegal. if floyd is using something illegal then why would he be willing to take the Olympic style test but yet manny wouldnt. manny as i stated is a manufactured fighter of top rank that they moved against old warriors who was past there prime. Top rank is very good at making fighters look better then they are. They are the best in boxing at doing that. They have fighters right today who are undefeated that you have never heard of.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 11:35:32 AM
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Mlargo:
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Floyd should just retire and make it his legacy to push for strongr controls on steroids in boxing. Until there is control across the board for what he wants he should just stay out of the ring. I don't blame paquiao for givng Floyd the finger and fighting Clottey. All Floyd fans can say what they need to say about Paquiao when all fighters are on this term and until then Floyd can keep hiding behind his no proof accusations
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 11:52:47 AM
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ali:
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Who wins Cintron or Clottey I don't know good fight... people acting like Clottey is a much tougher opponent and he's not. Think about it he had a draw with Martinez who is a hellva fighter he beat a up and coming fight I forget his name and his only two losses was to a cheater. NOw Clotttey lost to the cheater also lost to cotto and Baldir how ever u spell it so I don't think its a much tougher fight at all I think it about even.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:21:01 PM
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Tim Williams:
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That is pure craziness. Mayweather Sr assists in the training of his son. He was at the camp the whole time for the Marquez fight and everybody saw that on 34/7. The uncle is definitely a crack users and will be going to jail for beating up on a woman. The case starts in two weeks.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 12:23:14 PM
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El MAROMERO:
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this mu?@fu?! said 34/7....hahahaha
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 01:10:20 PM
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RANCHERO_AFAMADO:
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DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE POLITICS OF BOXING BUT WHY CAN'T THEY MAKE IT TO WHERE THERES MANDATORY FIGHTS?
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 01:32:06 PM
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Real Talk:
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ALL YOU OVER THE TOP PAC-NUTTHUGGERS!!! Michael Phelps got his blood drawn after winning his first Gold in 2008, swam 2 qualifiers AND WON THE 2ND GOLD THE NEXT DAY!!!! SO MUCH FOR BEING WEAK!!! GET PACQUIAO'S NUTTS OFF OF YOUR CHIN SISSYBOYZ!!! rRRRRAH!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 01:46:36 PM
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So Floyd's highest grossing fights are: 1.) Pacquio 2.) Mosley 3.) Cotto 4.) Williams 5.) Margarito. Anyone see "Runny" May fighting any of these guys this year? Come on Floyd fans, bring some pain. Holler!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 02:11:13 PM
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DANA WHITE:
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"I think something happened to Floyd in his last fight, something wasn’t there that used to be there, something weird. I truly believe his legacy means more to him than money does.
Me and Floyd go way back … I think [Floyd] blew this fight," White said. "When another fighter starts dictating a drug test, first of all Pacquiao’s never tested positive for any drug but Floyd’s going to make him go through drug testing? That’s ridiculous."
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 02:34:31 PM
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Salt Lover:
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It's a vast swirling wonderland of sparkling white pleasure, let it fill your senses with cascading fluffy pillows of excitement and comfort as you've never felt before.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 03:00:13 PM
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MisterLee:
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So... when was the last time Floyd fought for a title? The "Fight of the Century"? Haha...
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:02:25 PM
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MisterLee:
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Oh yeah, and Pacquiao currently holds 2-3 belts in Jr. Welter, and 1 in welterweight. Floyd holds 0.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:14:52 PM
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SALT lover:
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'Attack of the Clones' again! The cloner is back for some more action. That comment was not made by me.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 04:22:13 PM
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Edgar A de Dios:
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Yes, it is true, Floyd is over rated. The reason why he is very choosy of his opponents is because he wants to preserve this point of being an excellent technical boxer. You look good in the ring if you fit your style to boxers with style that are vulnerable to your style of fighting. And, you should evade fighting boxers whose style do not fit yours. Meaning, you don't fight boxers that could unmasked your weaknesses. That is the Floyd to his unjust and very unfair fans. That is the very reason, he doesn't fight elite welterweights who can unmask his weaknesses, thus ruin his reputation of a very good technical boxer. Oh, what kind of a boxer are you, Floyd. Shame on you for being very protective of you "0". Better retire now for the good of boxing. You are a disgrace to this sport.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 07:19:32 PM
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SALT lover@Edgar A:
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As a die-hard Floyd Mayweather Jr (40-0), is very rare to find a Floyd critic that has very good fluidity, and very honest criticism WITHOUT MALICIOUS intent behind the words. That was very well nicely put, and even though I do not agree with you, you have my respect. I respect your opinion, dude. Nice writin's!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 08:17:54 PM
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Kenny B:
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There are a lot of times that elite boxers become chickens and ducks. Roberto Duran was chicken of Tommy Hearns and got KTFO. Michael Spinks was chicken of Mike Tyson and got KTFO. Mayweather has becomes a duck against everybody in his weight class. They are all on steroids, have losses, or not a big enough draw. Mayweather is pathetic!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 09:31:50 PM
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Step 2 Me:
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The true boxing fan observes an article in it's manner, digests its content, then formulates an opinion which isn't coerced by the author. From the onset of this article you can conclude that the writer is no supporter of Mayweather. Harsh Criticism and pure Bias are polar opposites. It's easy to become a bandwagon fan of such a "convincing" article. Its sad that some individuals who claim to be true BOXING fans, get swayed by an "OPINION." Quit Hating, Frank.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 09:57:40 PM
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At least one of you fine scholars has taken my flawless analysis of the the flaws of the Pac's a cheater! club's argument to heart. However, I see some of you are still squinting in the bright light of insight. So, perhaps this will clear your moistened eyes and frontal lobes: Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine.Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine. Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine. Please feel free to forward any questions - it is important that we are all on the same page, so that civilization and evolution can finally move forward.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 10:33:24 PM
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Smiley C:
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Mayweather will probably fight a rematch with Supper Zab Judah and eat him alive as submarine sandwich sub for Pacquiao fo' sure!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 10:36:48 PM
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ali:
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Clottey or Cintron who is the tougher opponent
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 11:04:20 PM
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mortcola:
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Clottey's more durable, better chin and composure, more experience. Cintron is a bigger challenge offensively.
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 11:16:23 PM
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Real Talk:
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We got the pom pom brigade up in here with the knee pads on 24/7. I'm focused on Mosley vs. Berto. LET'S GET IT ON!!! We cross that Floyd Pacquiao bridge when we get there. Floyd fight he fights, he retires he retires.....Pac fighting Clottey...good. Clottey is slowing down and has been slowing down for 2 years now. Bob Arum flunky, he aint coming to win, he's coming to pick up a check. IT'S SHANE MOSLEY / ANDRE BERTO TIME!!! GIVE ME ARTLICLES ON THAT. What !...I'm suppose to talk about something that don't exist for the next 6 months. I'm not dancing on the string no more.....ENOUGH! IT'S DEAD...BURY IT! On to the next one....... kick rocks!
Saturday Jan 16, 2010 11:27:45 PM
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Clottey and Cintron have a similar problem: mental discipline. However, that's where the similarity stops. Their lack of discipline manifests itself in completely different ways. Clottey cannot seem to fight the same fight for twelve rounds. Winning against Margarito the first four, he complained to his corner about bad hands but nevertheless continued to fight effectively. Now I don't question his injured hands per se but I do have to wonder, especially after he complained and over-acted so injured in the last round of his later fight with Cotto, if somewhere inside Clottey there is almost a fear of winning. He simply stops fighting even when he is ahead. With Margarito and Cotto all he really had to do was let his hands go. Yes, he may very well have hurt his hands vs. Margarito but he still threw them hard. But not enough. With Cotto, he has no one but himself to blame for losing. The fight was for a twelve rounder. He stopped at ten. Against Pacquiao, he better be ready for 12 full. Now Clottey hits hard and takes a great punch. His D is excellent and he makes it difficult to connect cleanly. He can hurt his opponent. Look at Cotto. But can he hurt what he can't see .... namely Manny and his punches. I don't think so but I will watch carefully. Especially the early rounds where he is his most dangerous. Now, Cintron is a big puncher with developing skills; skills that are in a minor league compared with Floyd's. A he is your classic Pu*sy. You could see his fear against Margarito the second time. He lost before the fight started. the only time I've seen a fighter piss himself faster was when Michael Spinks saw Mike Tyson enter the ring. Now those crying eyes got him the luckiest of breaks when the referee reversed himself after Martinez knocked him down and out cleanly. But we all know he lost that fight regardless. I have no doubt whatsoever that he would lose to Mayweather....but Floyd might. And if he does, I have many doubts as to that fight being made at all.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 12:19:57 AM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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I'm accusing Scareweather of being on PED's, since most of you experts think that NSAC is useless. I'm accusing all of the boxing community of conspiracy to hide the truth to top it off. You guys are hurting the sport by dismissing the use of standard urine testing. Now the public will assume that all fighters might as well be dirty. I don't care how strong points you bring to the table, it is Scareweather who will get the sh*tty end of it. For the one that said RJJr never tested positive by urine test, you're wrong. They have said that they have samples of him testing positive. The only cheater hear is Scareweather, who uses xylocaine-a pain killer that is illegal in the sport. You don't hear Malignaggi using that because he also has brittle hands.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 04:43:30 AM
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@kountedout, I have been to the Wildcard Gym and Pepper is rarely there especially when it's Pac in training. May Sr. is in his camp even though he is not the one who isn't training him. He still get advice on the side. Besides Pepper is on a different drug, crack and steriods are not the same.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 04:48:18 AM
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brawler:
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One way or another, the Pacman will beat you anyways! where? Outside the ring. I mean in the court room!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 07:06:08 AM
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JZZY:
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PETTY BOY calls Pac a punk, The fans know who the punk is. The Pacman/Roach team are a fight fans dream. If PETTY BOY isn't a punk, he'll fight the winner of Shane/Berto or Citron. PETTY BOY talks too much and fights like a girl, the sooner he's out of the game, the better. PACMAN rules !!! and should never fight the PETTY BOY.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 07:07:38 AM
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Yeah, I hear you about Cintron. The dude has tremendous resources and all, and still, he can't use them the right way. It's True that he was scared when he fought Margarito the second time, but I heard it was HE who chose to fight Margarito; he didn't had to, which created a lot of concerns as to why did he even agreed to fight him. Also, Martinez DID beat him, and outboxed him really nice, and Cintron got that gifted draw he didn't deserved. That time he got on the floor, it should've been a knockdown, and Cintron complained that Martinez hit him in the head, when he didn't. But still, his mouth is waterin' at the prospect of fightin' Floyd, so I think mentally he'll be ready, and the possibility of them meetin' in the ring, for now, are lookin' real good. We'll see...
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 09:24:14 AM
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El MAROMERO:
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I had read somewhere that Angulo was sick on the night that he fought Cintron.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 09:49:26 AM
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Big Rog@kountedout:
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Thank you. Good to see someone else spotting the racist undercurrents in some of these posts. What with "KFC" jibes and the "buffalo soldier" rubbish. Pacroid fans are grasping at straws to try and make sense of why their idol is dodging the stringent drugs test and moving into offensive racist terrority. The mark of desperation. Coming out with the "chicken" jibe too! How may would get in the ring with this perceived "coward."?????
Mr Pacroid and his nuthuggers should be well reminded of the following....
Kung gusto,maraming paraan, kung ayaw, maraming dahilan.
Those who want to do something find many ways, those who don't find many excuses. Hollow!!!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 11:02:07 AM
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Pac agreed to blood tests 24 days before and right after the fight, plus random urine. Do you submit to every demand someone is willing to pay you for, without setting your own limits? As for the "racism" comments, kindly direct them to the individuals responsible. Most of my fight heroes, and many of my life heroes, are black - Pac is not a hero to me, simply a great fighter - and Mayweather, as a man judged by his actions, his evasions, his words, and his associations, is no hero. Just a great fighter who is wasting his god-given gifts on pride, spectacle and self-doubt. Not a race issue to me at all.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 11:27:15 AM
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I feel you Real Talk let's move on Mosley vs Berto should be a good one let show them some love that's the next big fight.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 12:12:28 PM
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RG -- coming back 2 C__:
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Kung pangit kayo at sira ulo, siradong ng bigbig mo, malaking tiyan, ikaw pabo nalang! Yea, somebody get hypersensitive when one call _____ a food or animal name, except for dog. If Ducky May had said to treat him like a Marine -- thank God he didn't -- I'd called him "Devil Dog" or "jawhead." If Ducky May had said to treat him like a "sailor" -- I'm glad he didn't -- I'd called him "squid" or "swabbie." If Ducky May had said to treat him like an airman -- I'd called him "Flyboy" or "eagle $hit." If Ducky May had said to treat him like an agent protecting American shores and cities, I'd called him "spook" or "superspy." Talking about a knucklehead, not even a fan wanted by a Duckweather -- I mean a Mayweather -- grasping at straws to try and make sense of why they are so darn delusional and _____. Duckweather know how the game works and care less about INTERNET and inter-group sycophants. Family Mayweather are masters at boxing, in which psy-ops is a big part of. He cannot stand an arseholes -- especially a ____ one -- patronizing him. There are tons of Pinoys who workout at the Mayweather family gym. Every member of that family says about Urbanites and Ebonicans who patronize them, "_____ ain't $hit! Dey need ta git dey own $hit and quit fakin' like dey kno' a muthaf*cka!" This internet is full of fakers, faders, busters and nutcases. The great Teddy Atlas learned how tricky that it can be the hard way. Holla!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 12:27:47 PM
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Radam G -- coming back to C____ agree:
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Real Talk is righteously REAL. It is Pinoy TIME to kick the fudge outta some rocks and move on. Ain't nuffin happening any time soon between Money May -- though a con man named Willie robbed those fat pockets and deep bank accounts -- and Pera Pac. Whaddup wit it? Da jive is dead, so get it outta yo' head. Dat jive will mess you up, if you continue to dread! It is like being in a cesspool and outta it trying to thread. Thrashing your brains with made-up racist jive is just sending you for a deep dive, just worry about your own hive. THERE WILL BE NO PACMAN-MONEY MAY BOUT on March 13! Lets talk about is planning to be. Holla!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 12:48:56 PM
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*...what is planning to be..
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 12:50:58 PM
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Big Rog a Radam G:
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What are you talking about? Write in english "sucka MC". This is an english launguage site. Your vernacular prose is hard to fathom from the un-initiated,. If your written english was any good, I would afford you a modicum of respect for what you say. As is, a think it betrays your lack of an education that you cannot use a more elaborate narrative. Also, you constantly correcting you spellling, grammar and punctuation, highlights your inferiority complex. Hollow!!!!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 01:25:48 PM
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Smiley C:
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Like Radam has always said, there are a lot of monolingual idiots and fakes invading this Universe. Now anybody who has been to school know that Radam is a very educated man who can speak several languages and is simply writing in pure, good ole English colloquialism. Big Rog is the biggest idiot to come into our Universe in a while. He's an a$$hole and a hater and doesn't his only language fo' sure!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 02:13:25 PM
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Smiley C:
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Correct dat fo' him. Wht type of writng is yr boy, school of hard knocks, aka no kounted using? Ya nitwit fo' sure!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 02:21:25 PM
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donputo69 in fajardo P.R:
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Mark it down...Cotto vs Foreman June 17...Cotto will be fighting @ 154 for the first time and trying to become a 3 time champion...holla back!!!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 02:48:09 PM
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RG 2 da DON:
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I told ya! MC is getting readeee to be a three-time champion! Holla!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 02:54:30 PM
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TRex2828:
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He is what he is. And he is a businessman with incredible boxing talent. He has repeatedly stated that boxing pretty much is not a sport anymore, it’s a business. And with the advent of television, he’s probably right.
A fighter putting the dollar sign and percentages as main negotiating points instead of things like, location, date and weight is what the Sweet Science has come to.
You can’t hold it against them. Hey, they have bills to pay just like the rest of us. But for Floyd to say his legacy is intact simply because he has fought and has not been beaten is simply too much blah blah blah.
Think back to the glory days when boxing was well boxing and not the business Floyd paints it to be. Leonard vs Duran – Duran vs Hagler – Hagler vs Hearns – Hearns vs Leonard – Leonard vs Benitez – Benitez vs Hearns – Hearns vs Duran – and I can go on. My point is they fought whoever was there. All the alpha dogs went at it. None of these gladiators ducked anyone! You fight, win or lose, against the top dogs and that is how your legacy is built.
And you fight them when they are “top” dogs not “porch” dogs. Can you say that Marquez was a top dog in the division? Hatton? Baldomir? Even Oscar no longer was a top dog.
Maybe we need to identify who were or are the top dogs in the division, granted all are of my personal opinion and subject to debate but I would have to say, Paul Williams, Mr. Mosley, PacMan, Andre Berto, Cotto and even Antonio Margarito.
Now I’m not saying he loses to any of these gentlemen. My point is none of them are even on his radar. You have non-threatening names like Paul Malignani and little Hatton. Are they even welterweights?
Now he has a golden opportunity to fatten his wallet more so than ever before against a legitimate fighter and he concocts a story and weasels his way out of the fight!
Where’s the business sense in that Floyd? You’ve just contradicted everything you’ve ever said about boxing being a business.
I’m not a fan of his but I think he wins the fight easily. He is just too talented.
To mention that the Philippines are the world’s biggest producer of PED’s is by far a copout. Manny has never failed a single drug test. Yes I agree, neither did Shane until the whole Balco episode took place in 2003. But since then Floyd has fought in 7 world title fights and 2 title eliminators and not once mentioned anything about extraordinary testing for his opponents. Why now?
Simple, he may actually believe the PacMan has a shot at beating him and once you have that self doubt, well, the walls may just start to crumble. Just ask Michael Spinks on his thoughts as he walked to the ring to meet Iron Mike! Note to Floyd… Man up !!! At least Mr. Spinks got in the ring.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 04:45:29 PM
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Suckas with peabrains just wanna play. But they will never prevent me from writing my way. They are the fakes and everyone, but them, can see it. Just as anybody with boxing and business sense know the fear that Lil' Floyd is exhibiting, I'll continue to write the way I feel. To no trifling arsehole will I kneel. A fake is always blasting for energy. With me, he'll never get that victory. He can INTERNET fool those in his mudhole. Maybe they enjoy being below him and will even lick his nasty foot sole, and then his nasty toes. Some fools just need foes. And anger affects calmness and commonsense and sits in the bosom of a fool. And irritates the climate like smelly $hit in an unflushed toilet stool. And with his bad breath, a fool slips more by his lie-bumps-filled tongue than by his crusty feet. Because a cosmopolite like me, he cannot ever beat. The reality of his being bottomlife, every single day, he must meet. Holla!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 06:01:06 PM
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Hey T - The sport is what the fighter makes it. The culture of boxing may have been dented by the media, but the heart of it is what it always was. Making it no more than a business is a way of minimizing risk; what he's saying is, the way I do it, it isn't a sport, because I'm not interested in competition or risk. So your analysis is the same as mine, which I've said over and over, but no one bit into it. The fighters who will be remembered are the ones who went up against the best, and against pain and mortality. And the business end either decided that they got to live comfortably afterward, or went the way of all slaves: used up and tossed away. Good for Floyd if its about business for him - but I would advise him that BOTH aspects of his legacy are shaky. No one will remember him with the greats because he took the easy way out; and it looks like the hole in his pocket is about as big as lots of other man-children who pissed away their fortunes after talking a good game. Good luck to him. I will find his fighting a thing of beauty when it happens, but he won't have my respect unless he shows he's made of something more meaningful. He's, what, 33? Ain't gonna happen. That's not what some call hatin' - its contempt for yet another fool who didn't honor his gift or his fellow soldiers, who made it all about money because the other way was too hard.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 08:39:01 PM
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Isaiah:
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What can I possibly say about the disgrace that is Floyd Mayweather, his family and his fans that haven't been said before? Not even I, can add anything new to this. A coward is as a coward does. The Mayweathers would know. Apparently as greedy and wanting to fight for nothing but money, since honor and legacy are foreign concepts to him as Floyd is, no amount of money can make him put his undefeated record at serious risk. The punk will never fight Shane Mosley or Manny Pacquiao no matter what. It doesn't matter what Shane did years ago, all I see NOW is simple. In 2009, Shane Mosley called out Mayweather several times and this is a fight many would like to see. Just ask yourself one question Floyd fans, will you forever say that Mosley ducked Floyd back in the day or will you actually try and support this fight being made? Ever heard of statue of limitations? It's in affect here. Second I know Mayweather is a cheater. It is a fact. Saying Xylocaine is alright because it's legal in Nevada is a sorry exscuse. Fighting a Lightweight and still coming in to heavy when you are a Welterweight is a sorry exscuse. Demanding random blood tests on an opponent when this has never been required before, especially including your previous whole career of 40 fights is a sorry exscuse. The world has woken up to the Fraud and that's just the way it is. Let's see the Fraud get 1 million buys again. I'd be very suprised if he did. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand will probaly get that even against Joshua Clottey (he's a big threat, but not a big name) because simply put, sleeping time is over. The public is awake and won't keep on buying this junk. End of story.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 09:11:40 PM
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kountedout@BigRog:
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no doubt! you know the deal. you are right, they are going to desperate measures with the little sidebar racist remarks but they will do all of this behind a keyboard. because god is my witness if one of them ever wanted to meet me i will go where they are bc suckas like that are very weak ppl. thats why they have to use insults. i try not to rap with any of them but yet they constantly bring my name up. i really wish an pray that i get to meet this ignorant clown smiley c and another 1 here. keep kicking the knowledge and keeping it straight real. stay up bruh!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 10:26:58 PM
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kountedout@#1pacfan:
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when i go there i saw pepper. yeah i agree with you pepper is on another type of drug. it trips me out when some clown made the racist remark like my ppl are the only ones that deal with drugs. did you see shane langford? thats the 1 eyed kid. yo i remember him when he fought. we were in vegas and he was getting his physical for his fight an he had to get his eyes examined and when he filled out his information the paper asked eyes he said 2! hahaha his mind is gone from all those drugs. its all good. i dont need to talk about that anymore.
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 10:37:19 PM
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Radam G -- LHPAO:
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I will be be at Wildcard (many other gyms including the Mayweather gym, but no internet fakes will be there. REAL PEOPLE WITH REAL LIVES don't need any weak-arse paranoia about weak-arse racism! Racism is a constant excuse of _____. Just talk about boxing. Happy B-Day to the Irish GOAT Ali. Holla
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 10:56:49 PM
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Radam G -- humble as ever and now in Cali again but going to Texas:
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Wow! Team Pac and Posse Pac can really draw some large crowds by just arriving at the airports. Ducky-broke May cannot draw jack now, even if he let rain with the few dollars that he has left that con man Willie didn't swindle him out of. Now working girls won't even want to take a chance with Lil' Dick -- I mean Floyd. WTF is up with using Xylocaine? Oops! I musta' fo'got! I'm not beating a dead horse anymore. Ducky May is a great fighter. I cannot wait to hear who he is fighting next. And I will admit that he is going to get robbed in a close contested fight. He has a great reason to be a bit paranoid. Enough said! Holla!
Sunday Jan 17, 2010 11:38:31 PM
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Smiley C:
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I can wait to see Mayweather kounted out. I think he has been to school of hardheaded. He's not going to do $hit fo' sure!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 07:43:32 AM
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#1 PacFan "P4P King":
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@Radam, I'm going to Wildcard Gym for MP training camp if I have time with my hectic schedule. I might bring my son to check out how it's going to be like with these young prospects.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:00:44 AM
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#1 PacFan "P4P King":
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Scareweather Sr. in an interview said that he did what any father would have done. That sounds like a father protecting his son from getting a beating. That interview pretty much summed it up that Sr. didn't want his son to face Manny. Did anyone remember that Sr. stated before the Cotto fight that he said with or without PED's Floyd would still whip him. Then why in the heck did he tell his sons to pursue Olympic-style drug testing? They could have threw away the demand knowing that the fight was being killed by the blood testing. There's your answer folks about the whole issue.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:14:50 AM
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Radam G @ #1Pac:
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Nuku,sana I'll get a chance to meet you and your son. I got to get ready for Texas. Those Texans are laying out the royal treatment and red carpet BIG TIME! Holla! Go to Pacland and hit the article, "A Tribute to 'The Greatest' Muhammad Ali on his 68th birthday." At about 4 minutes and 31 seconds of the Youtube video, you can see a two-year-old me sparring with GOAT Ali, as he pretends that I knocked him out. Holla!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:58:24 AM
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RED:
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The undeniable reality is that if Floyd truly believed he could beat Manny at the present moment, he would fight him PEDs or no PEDs. I believe that if Floyd had personally Carlos Baldomir injecting himself with every form of PEDs known to man he'd have still taken that fight. Whatever anyone wants to say about Floyd and however anyone wants to fault him, he's not a stupid athlete. In fact, during his career, he has been too smart for his own good. So, the question is this: From Floyd's perspective, what would be the smart move? On one hand, he could fight Manny, perhaps earn the largest purse ever paid to a professional fighter but risk losing to an ever impressive opponent who (so far) has dispatched the best the sport has to offer. Such a loss would erase Floyd's claims of unconditional greatness and pound for pound superiority. Basically, his rep would take a painful hit. On the other hand, he could wait to see if Manny stumbles against any of his opponents or becomes damaged goods even in victory and then fight him knowing full well that Manny has never backed down from a fight or a fighter. Such a fight would still generate a good payday and (almost as important) would give Floyd the chance of defeating his much heralded opponent. Under the latter option fans lose. Under the latter option, Floyd looks like a spoiled brat (at best) and a coward at worst. Either way, Floyd doesn't seem to care. Which brings up another point; why should the boxing world care about him?
Monday Jan 18, 2010 12:01:47 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P King":
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@RED, you couldn't have put that any better. I said before that Scareweather is waiting for Manny to be in a life and death fight with one of these bigger guys. He wants a worned out fighter who is seen as the best so he can convince many that he beat the best. He was hoping that Cotto would have atleast damaged him in the fight but that didn't happen. Many here see me as a hater but I was once a fan. He beats Manny then more power to happen and I will be happy for him. But if you let those talents go to waste then you will not be seen as one of the greatest. @Radam, hope to see there bro. I'm going to check it out on Youtube.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 12:33:00 PM
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JZZY:
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OK MERRIWEATHER , HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A MAN ABOUT YOURSELF, Sugar Shane needs an opponent now that Berto has withdrawn. Why don't you step up and make the fight with Shane. We know you'll find an excuse, chump.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 06:13:04 PM
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RG:
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Berto has withdrawn from the bout with Mosley. Maybe Ducky May should step up and take Berto's place. Holla!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 06:24:05 PM
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Castro:
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Let's talk BOXING!! But first.....this; I could've swore in 2009 MOSLEY called, yelled,screamed, kicked, begged & pleaded for a shot at the so called pound 4 pound catchweight king "Manny Paqwow" waaaaayyyy before he even called out Floyd after he wooped Marquez. Or I musta been drinkin/smokin some good S**T! Anyhow, Arum didn't or couldn't make that fight happen. Why? B-cuz he knew Manny would get KTFO! Who cares? The year has only begun! Only time will tell if he(manny) can really hang with the big boyz. First real test (w/out catchweight demands being made) is coming up in a little less than 2 months. Can you guys imagine what the rest of 2010 has in store for us? Don't know about the rest of you but I got a lot of different fights I can't wait to see. Starting this weekend with Juanma! Personally - I think he is going to lose. Gonna be a battle for sure & we'll finally get to see who has the better chin.
I'm out!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 07:15:37 PM
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Castro:
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It's one thing to say you fought the best. It's another to say you fought the best at THEIR BEST!! Meaning if I'm supposedly the BEST "pound for pound" & I want to fight the BEST for their belt then I must fight the best at their optimum weight level. Correct?
Cuz anything short of that is pretty much considered (in my opinion) nothing more than one fighter having an UNFAIR advantage over the other. Furthermore, if I end up winning & I'm the one who had the advantage by making my opponent come down in weight so I can look good & beat him convincingly. Then yeah I guess you could say I got the WIN, but I got it by CHEATING!! But we won't go there cuz some people just cannot handle that. Call it how you will but everybody knows that is EXACTLY how Top Rank & Pacwow built this legacy. I'm not saying Floyd didn't do it against Marquez. We all know he did. Yet every Pac fan seems real quick to call out Floyd for that exact same scenario - when in reality Top Rank & Manny & Roach have been doing this from the get-go! Soooo sad but TRUE!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 07:34:44 PM
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kountedout@RadamG:
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tell me when you are going to wildcard and I will come up there and lets see who is REAL you fake as MF! You are the only internet bandit on here. you are a complete fraud. When you claim you were in vegas on the cotto/pacquiao fight, i think donputo69 was there. you never caught with him bc you are a complete fraud! you didn't wanna be exposed. You are the main RACIST sucka that wanna act like us(wit your corny rhymes) and be like us (trying to talk slang) but you can never be us. Im callin you out! everybody talks a good game and lets see who is the FRAUD! lets see if you are really the man that flies to the moon... Smiley C keep bringing my name up. If I ever see you no matter what im going to F%*k your punk as up! Yo dude why do you keep bringing my name in your conversation. im tired of these jack as suckas. I dont mention or talk to you jerks but why do you conversate with me. i dont need to talk to you or read your lame comments but i know you read mines bc i kick real boxing knowledge. You try and keep on trying to test me so I can get kicked off of here. Just continue liking your steroid freak Punkiao!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 07:45:56 PM
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mortcola:
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I think kountedout just won "lowest TSS moment of the decade". Someone hand me some Lysol, please.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 08:07:45 PM
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Radam G -- I know that ___is not trying to holla at me:
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Somebody please tell that nutcase who @me that I don't read his ___ nonsense. I determined a while ago that he was a fake and big-time fibber. And he should continue to be like a mangy hound with no teeth chasing cars.He could bit a biscuit. Maybe one of those cars will do him a favor. Holla!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 08:16:59 PM
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Radam G -- Please!:
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PLEASE! Don't anybody tell me what that knucklehead post. Let the authority handle him. He will learn the hardway that he is not immune and untouchable with his brainless bluffing and threats. Wow! It is getting good. I really hope that Lil' Floyd steps up. His father already admitted to protecting his seed. You can catch it on the hypefight site. Holla!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 08:25:24 PM
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kountedout@mortcola:
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why you like a female dog! you are the just a girl. is anyone talkin to you. when you but in others business you tend to get burnt. you are a sucka as well. if im a fake radam meet me at wildcard an lets see. you are just a blatant liar and a internet bandit. I know you are riding around in your flying saucer bc you are that guy. well lets really see if im that guy are you are that guy. what are you talking about you idiot you brought my name up and i hadn't said anything to you whatsoever.. you are that little kid as i pointed out before you say stupid as remarks and then go running behind the skirt of someone you MF! mortcola whats it too you. do something about it! #1Pacfan i guarantee you that you wont meet that jack as at wildcard bc he dont want you to expose him. watch hes gonna say he was up there but he missed you. i know you want meet kicked off bc i dont take your stupid little girl games. mortcola and radam are girls. i said it do something about it. If the editor dont see that you guys come at me first then so be it but Im not taking s%&t off no punk as little girl.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 10:59:20 PM
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kountedout@mortcola:
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the difference between me an you is that i will tell you this to you sorry as face. why dont you do that with me. i will meet you any where you want. i hate suckas that dont mind there business. i can care less who you are man!! i will light your as up!! who was talking to you i have no problem with anyone on here. but you radam, misterlee, smiley c, an a couple of others must be some kind of girlfiriends bc u guys kiss each others as. if you had boxing knowledge then speak on it. don't worry what i talk about if it makes no sense to you IGNORE IT! but you cant bc you like reading my comments. i don't read yours unless i see my name. i can care less what a simple minded girl thinks!!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:05:09 PM
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kountedout:
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why do you have to say anything to me? WHY? i conversate with salt lover, brownsugar, ali, t-dogg, el maromero, realtalk, donputo69, ben o'conner, BigRog, #1pacfan and a couple others. because i can conversate with them bout boxing. I don't care about any of this other junk leave my name out. im the last guy you wanna trip with. one of these fools talk junk bc he lives out the country.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:20:16 PM
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mortcola@kountedout:
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You went public with the foulness, and I said so. Man, you're wired tight!
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:44:58 PM
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kountedout@mortcola:
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naw man! from all of sudden you have been saying things to me and i have never said anything to you unless you said something to me.but why you pick me man! there have been others that have come with racist remarks you never said anything to them. you didn't say anything to The Saint when he came with that ignorant remark. Realtalk did and few others. you didn't say anything to him why? could it be since he agrees with you on topics or could it be you have the same views?
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:52:34 PM
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kountedout:
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could it be that you are friends with radamG and he told you to come at me so the editor will kick me off? i dont care to know you or radamg, smiley c, or any of the others that have ran up on me.mJust dont say nothing to me!! we wont have this problem.
Monday Jan 18, 2010 11:57:06 PM
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tokworld:
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I can't believe this article and some of the comments made by people who never boxed in their life.
If some wants to give me $35 mil, I would let them check my shoe strings for drugs and every inch of my body.
Floyd has fought such so called greats as Hatton, Gatti, Juda Demarcus Corley,Carlos Baldomir,and the list goes on,an has disposed of all of them."Now," just because these young prospects has come along, he has fought no one,you blind people get a life. The man is the Truly one of the greats. "Oh" they did that with Ali,Tommy,and Sugar Ray Leonarnd.
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 12:25:40 AM
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Isaiah@kountedout:
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This may not be popular with everyone here and me and you have not always gotten along, but you spit some real stuff there man. Radam G has always ran his internet poser mouth in here and rode the Editor's nut$ more then a $5 ho. The "man" would not dare act like that in front of anybody's face in here and I'm sick of the favoritism in this biased site. YOU ALL know excatly what I'm talking about! Radam G says one thing that is obviously racist and/or hateful and if I said something against him, I'm the one being yelled at! Ain't that a trick?! Man, you are seriously wrong on Manny Pacquiao, but this ain't about that. At least you have the guts to speak the truth about the BS a few in this site sometimes pull! What the F is up with a few people's blind allegiance to Radam in this site?! You don't always have my agreement kountedout, but this time you do, therefore you have my respect REGARDLESS OF THE FUTURE. Tell it like it is man. Call a spade a spade and a coward a straight up F'n coward! @Radam G. Go ahead and call up your lawyers. Call up the editor. Call up anyone who will listen and let him know there's a few of us in here who don't bow down to you CRYBABY, you fake @$$ p###y!!! Where I'm from, that's not the way a man talks. Let me guess, you're too good to read my response and yet somehow, you're still going to respond to it INDIRECTLY . POSER! I'm not mentioning any names, but a few of you all need to get off that poser's nuts for real! It's emberassing! That includes the Editor to if he has something to say about it! I'm beginning to think Radam is paying him to pretend he's god in here and can do wrong! HA! "Mister Editor, he's telling the truth!" HA! I'll tell the truth until the day I die or the Rapture and beyond, whichever comes first!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 01:32:23 AM
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Smiley C:
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MAN! This school of insane nut with the knocks in his head has lost his mind. Oh! May bad! He doesn't have one. Forget that fool. I'm here to rap about what he doesn't know. Something called boxing. The clown says it all: Countedout fo' sure!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 01:36:17 AM
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Smiley C:
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Hihihihihihahahaha! I see that jelly belly young and butter belly old are a fleabag couple again. You guys crack me up. I love the way you nut jobs with bipolar disorders switch loyalty. Stay in this Universe and talk boxing fo' sure!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 07:55:04 AM
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kountedout@Isaiah:
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I appreciate the words, i know we or a lot of us might not agree on the same thing but thats cool and its good to agree and disagree. thats where we learn from other views and opinons. I agree with every word you said. check out the this cat smiley C i have never said anything to him but he comes at me real crazy bc hes a radamg as kisser. i think these junkies want to try and get someone kicked off of here. Isaiah you say what you are going to say might not be popular here but i disagree with you. i think a lot of guys here are good dudes and they dont wanna hear all this garbage they wanna talk good boxing. im glad you are one of few though that see through the smoke of some of these clowns. You have my respect as well, i respect anyone that kicks good boxing knowledge. Im glad to see that you agree with me on this topic bc racism is one thing I hate and its okay to hate a fighter bc he is not the type of fighter that you like but its not cool to hate a person bc of the color of there skin. we should judge him/her on the content of there character
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 10:55:13 AM
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EM@Isaiah:
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Please take some time off from TSS. Too vulgar, too rude. Thanks.
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 11:51:09 AM
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Castro@Radam:
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You are a fake ass B***H! Plain & simple. You also sound like an idiot EVERYTIME you post something. I'm from L.A. homie! Anytime you want to meet up.....just say the word! East Los or Hollywood? You name the place, get on your jet & lace em up! Cuz if we ever do I'm gonna KYTFO(knock you the F**K out!) & I'll do it just for Kountedout!! You talk all this shit about "it's pinoy time' this & that. Well guess what? You're WRONG! It's "MONEY" time & he called your sorry ass BLUFF! Now didn't he? Get a life! Get some lube. You are gonna need it! Loser!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 01:10:04 PM
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mortcola@kountedout:
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Happy to put it behind me. But you deserve an honest answer. First, there was some knuckleheaded racist stuff I read, some stereotype stuff, and people called the individual on it. Then there was stuff Mr. R said that got you and others into calling racism, but I read it over, and I didn't hear any prejudice at all in it. No stereotypes, no judgments. But, didn't bother me, except I'm bothered by too much racial raw-nerve stuff. But then the thing that really GETS me comes up - not just dumb ideas, like racial farts that aren't worth the oxygen, but threats and posturing, and step-out-from-behind-that-keyboard-and-meet-me-punk stuff that to me is SO JUVENILE, so schoolyard. So, yeah, it wasn't directed at me, so you might say, shut my mouth, but it messed up my mood. Honestly, it didn't go deeper than that. But I know you were raw from the back and forth with others. I just like to keep the violence in the ring, and not have to read it and then use my mental floss to get it out so I can enjoy the boxing posts. I'll back up your right to disagree with me on boxing, to my grave, but I wish the attitude of TSS posts would rise higher. I don't think you'd disagree with that. Anyway, its not personal, and it clears away like a fart in the wind, so, we go back to boxing talk? Peace.
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 06:12:13 PM
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kountedout@mortcola:
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no doubt! i feel what ya sayin. you said it messed up you mood?? how do you think it makes me feel or any other guy here feel when some guy starts out out of the blue saying you are stalking him and you know nothing about the cat. I wasn't threatening him, i was calling him out just to meet at wildcard,not to throw down with him but he talks a good game that he is in the know lets just see how much he is in the know and lets see who is the FRAUD. i dont know if you guys are friends but it seems that way bc anytime something happens you guys jump on his side. In another article Castro was talking to radamg and this guy the saint just buts in his conversation like he is radams big brother or something. now im from the school of fair fights. now you tell me why does the saint have to intefere in castros conversation? the saint is the same guy with the racial comments that you ignored as well. i only speak the truth an thats this site like others have a lot of racist guys on it. bottomline.
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 06:32:57 PM
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kountedout@castro:
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good lookin out! i got your back no doubt!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 06:35:11 PM
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Radam G:
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Hahaha! I thought it was the school of hard knocks. I guess my eyes lied, school of fair fights fo' sure!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 08:19:32 PM
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Radam G:
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Any way, it is all good! I got nothing against anybody! I know boxing and so do you. And I will let none of the deadbrains like Castro move me an inch. You and I both know what happens to that kind when they put on gloves or not. They have the chance of a snowball in hell. Man, I don't normally read anything that you post. But I read it this time because I saw @mortcola. He is far from being an agitator as Castro is. I will not give him an iota of energy. He is like a dumb-name-calling fanfaronade at ringside. I hope that Mayweather and Mosley tangle. I'm picking Mosley by close decision or robbery. My last post to you. You do your thing and I will do mine. No pun intended. Holla!
Tuesday Jan 19, 2010 08:28:32 PM
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crottyruh:
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Yeah........... it's PINOY TIME to rise in boxing, is there a problem in that?
Wednesday Jan 20, 2010 03:23:07 AM
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crottyruh:
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Alright, I guess Mr. Editor didn't like what I posted earlier. So I'm going to replace it with this: Yeah, it's Manny Pacquiao's time to rise in boxing, is there something wrong with that?
Wednesday Jan 20, 2010 10:15:24 AM
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kountedout:
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no doubt! you do your thang i will do mines. but i disagree with you on mortcola. he came at me and i had never said anything to him. you guys never say anything to the idiots who come up with the wise racist cracks but the minute someone says anything about the filipinos you guys get in an uproar. he has shown his true colors. i have nothing to say to him bc i know what he is. for example, on the haiti tragedy mortcola, the saint an the clown instigator smiley c said nothing about that. the real ppl came an acknowledged such a tragedy and there hearts went out to haiti. its all good in the neighborhood.
Wednesday Jan 20, 2010 10:49:45 AM
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crottyruh:
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oh, well......... my apology Mr. Editor, both my previous comments were posted. i hope people like castro would comment on them.
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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