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BORGES: Who Is Looking Out For Miguel Cotto?
By Ron Borges
One has to wonder what poor Miguel Cotto is thinking this morning. He is burying his father at the same time he is trying to excavate his career. If ever he needed to be a fighter, it is now.
Even before his father and dearest friend, Miguel, Sr., died unexpectedly last weekend from an apparent asthma attack that led to a breathing problem that took his life at 57, Cotto had to be wondering about many things. He had to be wondering how much more punishment he can take after absorbing terrible beatings at the hands of first Antonio Margarito and then Manny Pacquiao.
He had to be wondering how much of himself was left behind in the ring those two nights, as he absorbed savage beatings until he could take no more. Surely he had to wonder if he would ever again be the fighter he once was, the recognized king of the welterweight division and one of the half dozen most feared fighters in the world.
But for Cotto, his wonderings had to be far worse than that in light of the odd turn the negotiations between Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, Jr. have taken. Here stand Mayweather’s promoters and advisors – Oscar De La Hoya, Al Hayman, Richard Schaefer and Leonard Ellerbee – all insisting Pacquiao submit to random drug testing for performance enhancing drugs for the richest fight in boxing history to go forward and there stands Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, doing all he can to help Pacquiao make such testing useless.
What must Cotto be thinking as he mourns the passing of his father in Puerto Rico?
Here is Arum, who so loudly defended Margarito after he was caught wearing tampered hand wraps and a knuckle pad in his locker room the night he was to fight Shane Mosley. This is the same Margarito who gave Cotto the worst beating of his life not long before that fight with Mosley, a beating Cotto now believes was suspect under the quite reasonable assumption that if Margarito and his trainer were loading his hand wraps it didn’t start against Mosley.
This is the same Arum who has steadfastly stood with Pacquiao as he has repeatedly refused to accept any kind of blood test that might actually be effective even as fighters like Kermit Cintron and Paulie Malignaggi, along with Mayweather’s father, insist there’s something funny about how heavy-handed Pacquiao has become even though he has never tested positive for anything.
This is also the same Arum who promotes Cotto while defending Margarito. The same Arum who promotes Cotto while defending Pacquiao. The same Arum who has suggested the comeback fight for Cotto should be a rematch with Margarito as soon as Margarito’s suspension for wearing those plasterized handwraps is lifted.
This is Cotto’s promoter? Conflicted, shall we say?
In fairness, Arum nurtured Cotto from the time he turned professional, promoting him deftly enough to make him a star in Puerto Rico and New York while leading him through the often troubled waters of prize fighting. He helped get him into position to win world titles and make millions of dollars. He helped get him on HBO and in some of the biggest fights. Yet when issues were raised about tampered hand wraps and Cotto wondered if he had been a victim of them, there was Arum hollering that Margarito was being railroaded.
Now with Pacquiao sitting under a cloud of his own making by refusing to agree to reasonably effective random blood tests for PEDs and blood doping (professional athletes long ago lost the presumption of innocence when it comes to PEDs like steroids and HGH because when is the last time they didn’t deny it right up to the moment they got busted?), here is Cotto’s promoter again hollering that a grave injustice has been done to Pacquiao.
Well, what if one has been done to Cotto? Or maybe two? Cotto will never really know for sure in either case. Only Margarito and Pacquiao know what they were doing, or not doing, going into their fights with Cotto. Cotto doesn’t know and neither does Arum, although the former wouldn’t be human if he didn’t have his suspicions.
What doubts he must be wrestling with today about his past and his future in boxing as he sits in his grief over the loss of his father. To whom does he turn? Where does Miguel Cotto go now? Not even he probably knows.
He has asked the public to give his family time to heal from the passing of his father, the man who started him in boxing and in life, and he deserves that. Yet you wonder, as a judge sits trying to mediate the mess Pacquiao, Arum, Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions have made of the biggest fight of the New Millenium, what Miguel Cotto must be thinking. Surely one thing is this – who looked out for him?
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donputo69 R.I.P Cotto Sr.:
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The world demands a Cotto vs Margacheato Rematch...Nuff said...holla back!!!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:16:42 AM
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GOAT:
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Nice piece. It would be a travesty if Cotto's only two losses came against guys who were cheating. It's not the lost that's the worst part if in fact Pac and Marg cheated, it's the viscious beating he took from both men that ruined his career and probably caused permanent damage to him. Shame on Bob Arum, Pac and Marg if they cheated and ruined a fighters career.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:17:51 AM
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seattle:
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He just needs someone on his side with a big voice besides Arum. If I were Cotto, I will try and get Freddy Roach. The possibility is wide open.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:25:34 AM
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DPS3Putt:
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I don't understand why PBF and his cronies make baseless accusations, and somehow it is on Pacquiao to prove it is not true, and not PBF and cronies to prove it is. No boxer in professional boxing is required to do blood testing (including ones that have ties to PED's) so if it is not required by all boxers from here on out then it shouldn't be expected of Pac. Cotto is a great ambassador for boxing, and I wish him and his family well as they heal from the loss of his father. He has every reason to feel he was cheated in the Margarito fight, but he lost to Pacquiao fair and square.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:41:55 AM
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T.Weis:
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Ron,
Your article seems slightly biased, heaping a lot of blame on Top Rank, specifically Pacquiao and Arum. This article is supposed to be about Miguel Cotto, but the message between the lines sifts Manny and Margarito into the same category, something that is undeserved (until proof is shown that Pacquiao is indeed guilty of using PED's or HGH).
In fairness, a grave injustice has been done. A professional athlete of the highest caliber, a man who humbly and proudly represents his impoverished country, has been labled a cheater without any burden of proof. Imagine someone walking into a classroom and accusing a teacher of pedophilia; the damages would be irreversable.
Pacquiao is every bit the heavy-handed puncher he always was. His record of 50 wins by 38 KO's just proves his consistency. The best evidence his accusers have is his ascent through weight divisions. Pacquiao did begin his professional career at 106 lbs at age 16, but he's not alone. Mayweather himself fought in the amateurs at 106 lbs, also at age 16. The same Mayweather who fought as high as 154 lbs. Why not accuse him?
Maybe Cotto is wondering why Al Haymon has no interest in testing Shane Mosley, an admitted steroid and EPO user, before Haymon's other fighter Andre Berto enters the ring. Maybe Cotto is wondering why Shaefer was so blatantly against blood testing Mosley when Judah demanded it, stating that Mosley doesn't deserve to be treated like a cheater. Maybe Cotto accepts that he will never know what happened last summer against Margarito, but the fighter in him wants to find his answers in the ring. Maybe Cotto was proud to last 11.5 rounds against the best in the world, humble in defeat, making no excuses while his father stood at his side.
Cotto may be a weathered fighter at 28, but can hold his head high knowing he always fought the best available. His heart and courage will carry him through more sold-out nights at Madison Square Garden, more fights on the Puerto Rican Day parade, and more chances to show why he's still a fighter to be feared.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:44:56 AM
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robert d:
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Shame on you for presuming guilt and rushing to judgement on Pacquiao's behalf. There has been no evidence of foul play on this great boxer. Mayweather has done irreparable damage to this man's legacy by lining him up with the likes of Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Alex Rodriguez or Shane Mosely. The man don't have an ounce of drugs or PEd in his previous tests. As for Cotto, he needs to reconnect and revisit his relationship with his uncle, Evangelista who has been there through his early years of success, This would make a good comeback story if they reconcile and put aside their differences.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:11:49 PM
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PR10:
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Well let's just say that we all now Margarito cheated Cotto even Cintron. Put Pacman well have to wait and see the outcome Mayweather has a point if you look at Pacmans last three fight he blew up. I also think Freddie is involed somehow as for Arum he's the one that should be buired today boxing doesn't need him
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:15:18 PM
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Jose:
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Cotto is a warrior but I feel his better days are gone. The Margarito beating was a devastating loss physically and emotionally. I also feel Margarito fought that fight with loaded gloves as I believe he did agains Cintron as well. Cheaters don't usually get caught when they first cheat. They do it and do it and do it "UNTIL" they get caught. It's a shame that a cheating Margarito has had such an effect on the careers of both Cotto and Cintron. As for Cotto's next move, I'd love to see him square off with Cintron. Both these guys have had their careers somewhat railroaded by Margarito and I feel both are worthy of a big event. I love the idea of Cotto vs. Cintron at the Garden in conjunction with the NYC Puerto Rico Parade.
Let me finish by wishing Cotto my condolences on the passing of his father. He is a warrior and I'm sure he'll continue fighting through this setback.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:17:07 PM
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After the Margarito and Pacquiao beatings, I think Cotto should retire. He's made enough money to live without ever working again in his life, and he can take solace in the fact that he holds a win over the current welterweight champion of the world, Mosley. And he's beaten Malignaggi, Quintana, Judah, Gomez, and was the best man at 140 when he fought there. But that said, if he wants to fight again, then he should. It's his life and it's his right to do as he sees fit. But I think he may have David Reid/Fernando Vargas/Meldrick Taylor syndrome after the AM & MP beatings (and not to mention the other tough fights he's been in with Clottey, Mosley, Judah, and even Corley). It's not really in his nature, but if he comes back, he should take on a soft opponent, a Matthew Hatton type guy just to gauge where he's at. If he loses, at least he won't get hurt, and he'll know he's shot. I wouldn't throw him in with a hungry Margarito for his first fight back. After all, Antonio will likely be extra hungry to erase any doubts about his first victory and the wraps, and thus will look to KO him more quickly and more savagely in an effort to redeem himself. Cotto should test the waters before diving in head-first (not a string of bums, just one, a Matthew Hatton or top-35 type guy).
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:20:19 PM
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R.Tolentino:
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Amen to that! Pacquiao is no Margarito, there is no comparison at this point and Pacquiao's defamation suit is made credible by articles such as this. Cotto will be back! Him and Evangelista will be back together and he will go out on his terms...winning.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:21:32 PM
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DJ:
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Wow! What a load of crap! A classless article.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:24:23 PM
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oliver@dallas:
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"....Pacquiao as he has repeatedly refused to accept any kind of blood test" Ron Borges is not only biased, but untruthful, Manny Pacquiao is not against any form of blood test, he agrees with reasonable blood testing. But the Mayweathers are insisting blood testing that will jeopardize MP's chance of winning - same thing that happened to MP during his first showdown with Morales where his blood was drawn during the day he is dehydrating himself in preparation for the weigh in because the doctors mysteriously lost his medical records. MP attributed his lost to Morales to this unreasonable blood testing at critical stage of the preparation together with the brand gloves selected for both fighters. MP should not allow himself get abused by people who does not care about his interest.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:32:06 PM
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Matt:
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I hope we do see a Cotto, Margarito rematch and Cotto beats the snot out of Margarito. Cotto is a really great fighter and a really great man. As for Pacquiao, he and Mayweather are in the middle of negotiations and Mayweather tries to push him around with a previously unheard of demand more wild than the one asked of Mosley that his promotion company refused. If Pacquiao has never used PEDs, I don't see why he would do anything other than what he is doing right now. Present the cast from both sides to the NSAC on the 19th of January and let them make the call, not GPB or Mayweather. If there is good reason to change the testing procedures, it should come from boxing as a whole, and be implemented universally, not as a tool to push one side around. He hasn't refused blood testing, he refused to have the test procedures done on Mayweather's terms. We have as much reason to suspect Cotto was using PEDs as Pacquiao, which I think is about 0%.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:36:34 PM
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bad:
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Another accuser writer with no proof. Now we know the writers that werent taught very well by their parents. This is suppose to be a country of innocent until proven guilty. NOT A BUNCH OF WITCHHUNTERS!!! Well you witchhunters will be looked down upon and BAD KARMA will come your way. Nobody will respect your writing EVER AGAIN!!!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:50:37 PM
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Jason @ T.Weis:
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"Imagine someone walking into a classroom and accusing a teacher of pedophilia; the damages would be irreversible." That's an excellent analogy regarding the Pacquiao PED's accusations. For full disclosure, I'm a Pacquiao fan, but I don't idolize him (many of his fans remind me of those teenage girls that you see in old 50's/60's clips that would emotionally collapse and contort with tears when Elvis or the Beatles would emerge), therefore I consider myself neutral. And I think Pacquiao's getting the shaft on this PED deal. He's being forced to defend himself against baseless accusations (i.e. the teacher that is accused of pedophilia; even after he's cleared, his name never really is cleared). Sad. Here's another analogy: Maybe the Baltimore Ravens should REQUIRE Tom Brady to take a drug test prior to their playoff game this weekend, and if he refuses, then he's on PED's.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:51:51 PM
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haywire48:
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Cotto has the mark of a true champion he lost the fight to PACMAN but still was able to gain the respect of the boxing fans, Our sincere condolence from your fans here in the Philippines
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 12:55:13 PM
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Marloun:
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Ron, are you dumb? Are you sure Cotto did not take HGH/ PED for that matter even when he was defeated by Pacquiao? Under your argument that all athletes are no longer presumed innocent these days then ALL boxers are guilty of being under PED because they are not subjected to Olympic style testing? Just because the Mayweather camp is accusing Pacquiao of using PED does not mean Floyd himself did not use PEDs in his previous fights because he did not undergo Olympic style testing during those fights. He cannot prove it! What a piece of shit this article is! I thought it was to console a great fighter, instead, it is a veiled bashing of another one!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:02:55 PM
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SALT lover:
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Nobody is lookin' out for him. As a father himself in his teenage years, Cotto was had to mature pretty fast in order to get some rough times in his life. Sure, he's been havin' personal problems and in the streets but he manages pretty well. His father's passin' is a natural course of life what happens to all of us who hae known their fathers, and just like a rought fight he's in, he'll make the neccessary adjustments. I agree 100% with donputo69, a rematch with Margarito, which is where he's downfall started is a MUST to redeem himself. Had not takin' too much punishment in that fight, who knows where he'd be right now. Floyd Mayweather Jr (40-0) vs Miguel Cotto was the mega-fight at 147lbs when Cotto was unbeaten, but Margarito ruined all of that before ruinin' himself. For Cotto a rematch with Margarito, and a rematch with Shane Mosley is the most gratifyin' way to end his career, should Mosley beat Berto and again, finds himself without any top fighter willin' to face him. Checkezzzzzz!!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:03:48 PM
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arn:
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so you're saying that this nevada drug testing is useless ever since..what the hell they are doing there..pac seems to be unbelievable is't it? is that what you're pointing out?pac is not in the situation of margarito..he refused because he experienced it since he lost to morales, draw his blood 48 hours before the fight..in fact theres a video wayback 2005 explaining why he lost to morales..if this fight will not happen this kind of write up is to be blamed.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:10:06 PM
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jca:
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Your whole article is based on assumption. As if everyone that should be on Cotto's side did something against Cotto. Just because Team Mayweather demands drug testing for pacquiao does not mean he is guilty. Would you entertain an accuser who accuses you of drug use, if the accuser uses drugs, sells drugs, and went to jail because of drugs and is declared a criminal because of drugs in our court system? All the more if you know you are clean? I am amaze why woull you ever put your name on this article as a writer!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:11:27 PM
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carlos:
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CRAZY WRITER. TAKING ADVANTAGE AND USING A GRIEVING PERSON TO ACCUSE INNOCENT PEOPLE. I WONDER HOW MUCH YOU EARN ON THIS ARTICLE.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:14:22 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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R.I.P. Cotto Sr. My condolences go out to you and your family.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:17:44 PM
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Paclander:
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Cotto have won the respect of poeple arround the world in asia especially in the Philippines not because he lost to Pacquiao but his genttleness towards Pacquiao was awesome and the Puerto Ricans are nice to Pacquiao we believe and hoping that Cotto will regain his career better than the Past it is not a shamed losing to someone 2nd greatest of all time an fought with honor and no excuses. We will support you as a fans of boxing and supporters of Pacquiao you are a futuer Hall of Famer we extend our heartfelt condolences to you and your family...more power and good luck
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:19:05 PM
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gerard:
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what the hell are you talking about man! pacquiao under a cloud of his own doing? maybe you need to annalyse more dude you aint catching up! pac is willing but with conditions
its all ego's and nothing to do with proving that he's clean.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:19:06 PM
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NANING:
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Hi Ron,
You are one of the best boxing writers around and I always read your articles. This time, however, you may be slightly inaccurate.
Pacquaio does not refuse blood testing. He refuses a blood test too close to the fight - say one or two days before- because it will weaken him. This is not just a new alibi he suddenly came up with. In 2005, two days before his first fight with Morales, he was forced to give blood because his medical records were supposedly lost. (There is a youtube video of his 2005 interview with a well known Filipino TV reporter.) As we all know, Pacquiao lost that fight. He said he felt weak during the fight. It was probably a mental thing, but he felt weak anyway.
This fight with Mayweather, if it happens, will be Pacquiao's biggest fight. He will fight not only for himself but for his country. He has to win! He cannot afford to come into the ring weak. He cannot afford to give Mayweather the advantage that he seeks in every fight. (Just look at how Mayweather cheated Marquez.)
Why will Pacquaio risk losing $30 million by not agreeing to Mayweather's demands? Because he already has $30 million. What is more important than all the money in the world is for him to win this fight.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:37:38 PM
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TAIWAN BOY:
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DON T COMPARE MARGARITO TO PACQUIAO, MARGARITO
CHEATS BUT NOT PACQUIAO. I WONDER WHY THIS WRITER DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:39:02 PM
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Asyong:
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Wow I thought this article was about Cotto? What a brilliant way to draw readers into this in order to add insult to MP's injury while disguising as a Cotto sympathyser. What a pathetically confusing piece of an otherwise well deserved write up about Cotto.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:40:16 PM
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steadylearner:
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Ron Borges writes as though Pacman has been caught cheating. Ron intentionally is trying to inflict more damage on Pacman by putting him on the same category as Margarito's. Where is responsible and fair journalism nowadays?
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:49:25 PM
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Matt:
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Cotto is a really great fighter and a really great man. It is sorry to hear about his loss. My condolences to him and his family. I am sure he will rise above this challenge as he has with so many other things. I hope we do see a Cotto, Margarito rematch and Cotto beats the snot out of Margarito. As for Pacquiao, he and Mayweather are in the middle of negotiations and Mayweather is trying to push him around with a previously unheard of demand more wild than the one asked of Mosley that his promotion company refused. If Pacquiao has never used PEDs, I don't see why he would do anything other than what he is doing right now. Have both sides present their case to the NSAC on the 19th of January and let them make the call, not Mayweather or GPB. If there is good reason to change the testing procedures, it should come from boxing as a whole, and be implemented universally, not as a tool to push one side around. He hasn't refused blood testing, he refused to have the test procedures done on Mayweather's terms. We have as much reason to suspect Cotto was using PEDs as Pacquiao, which I think is about 0%.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 01:51:11 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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Goodbye, Cotto Sr.. My condolences to Miguel and his family. You're very brave. Sorry, your father has gone, but he will live forever in your heart. Why don't we have an open TSS letter to Cotto for folks to post their respect, condolences and good wishes? It would be nice if we could edit out all the Pacman accusations and hostilities and focus on Miguel and his family. I'd also like to see Miguel get his rematch with Margarito without the concrete mittens involved. I bet it would be a different match entirely.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:00:15 PM
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Cotto, you can be damn sure not to count on Mr. Magoo (Arum). That guy sold his soul years ago when he worked as an attorney for the US Department of Justice. You were put up as a living sacrifice for two brutal, cheating fighters.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:05:03 PM
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in touch @ T. Weis:
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Well written, T.Weis. I'm very impressed by your writing. You have nailed it dead on! The article by Borges is very unfair to Pacquiao. This article, since it's about the loss of Cotto's father, should have been about Cotto's courage and humility. It could have been quite interesting to read where Cotto came from and what he got from his father. Perhaps a bit of research (not much) about an incident between father and son that defined their relationship and how Cotto became such a great fighter. His father had a lot to do with his boxing career. Instead of that Borges dwells on the negative, accusing a man not proven guilty. Pacquiao has tested negative 11 times in Nevada. Just because Mayweather doesn't want to fight him, he found an excuse and others like Borges jumped on that. That's a shame.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:05:22 PM
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If PAC is going to be tested, mayweather should be tested too. maybe it's the other way around and floyd us the one taking steroids. plus don't you think floyd is trying to do this to stall or maybe he hopes that they will never fight? in another article, they say that floyd wants PAC to do blood testing because he was drained in the marquez fight. floyd will do anything to be ahead of PAC mentally and physically. Yeah mayweather beat marquez. Floyd was 20 pounds heavier then marquez at the fight. He over powered him. floyd will use any tactic against PAC.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:15:17 PM
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GOAT:
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As far as Pac is concerned, the steroids issue was not really a big deal until he came up with weak excuses for not taking a blood test. Pac says he never tested positive for anything, well niether did Marion Jones, Mark Mcguire, Roger Clemmons, Shane Mosely, etc... If you have advanced notice of a test, then you can beat the test. No-one thought Roger Clemmons was juicing UNTIL the congressional hearing and subsequent interviews by Clemmons. In these interviews, he seemed as though he was lying and hiding something. Now no-one really believed Pac did PED's until after the blood testing request and since then he appears to be lying about being affraid of needles, feeling weak from losing blood, aginst his religious beliefs, etc... the excuses make him seem like he is lying just like Clemmons. Boxing is the only sport where you can be literally beat to death in the ring and for Pac to be viewed as a clean athelete, he needs to be ramdomly blood tested even if it's against Yuri Foreman or Pauli Malinaggi.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:16:44 PM
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GOAT:
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The person who used the example of a teacher being acussed of being a pedophile is a bad comparason. In order to be a pedophile, there has to be at least two people engage in illegal activity, in order to use PED's or any other drug, there only has to be one person using them. If a teacher is accused of being a pedoophile he/she can use a BLOOD TEST to prove their innocence.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:20:48 PM
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PISSED:
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Borges is an idiot! What has he done to help Cotto? Arum has made Cotto into a multi-millionaire just for starts.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:29:10 PM
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Coolwaterjinkx:
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mayweather doesnt really care about legacy or even his dumb fans. we have to realize that floyd is only after the money. it is all about the money. you could listen to ra rugged man's interview, and know all about floyd. he said: legacy doesnt pay your bills, he is not avoiding fighters, shane is on steroid, philippines got the best enhancement drugs and most especially he believes that if he leaves boxing world, BOXING WILL DIE. is floyd on drugs??! for him to say that is like saying he is the god of the boxing world. if you dumb floyd fanatics does love him still, all of you should be tested for olympic style of drug test. youre all on drugs man. maybe its time to show him, we fanatics of boxing teach him a lesson... (",)
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:47:57 PM
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magpuputo:
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Here is another writer under Maywheather paycheck. Now they using Cotto to attack Manny's boxing performance.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 02:52:24 PM
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amory @ GOAT:
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your arguement doesnt make sense, it is not a bad comparison, do you mean manny can manufacture PED all by himself now, in order to be able to purchase the drug you have to be associated with somebody who knows somebody that is dealing the the drugs, the pacman is rich and all but he cannot possibly manufacture the drugs all by himself, he has to have someone get for him, and so far there's nobody coming out in the open sayaing he puchased the drugs for manny, and there is no one in his team is connected to any lab that makes designer PED.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:08:32 PM
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migo:
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I respect the warrior within miguel cotto and i admire the guy for being not just such a sport icon on his native country puerto rico but for being a good boxer in the modern era..my condolences sir for the passing of your father rest assured that we fight fans really cared.. if not for praying for your deceased father and maybe in some other ways that can help ease the burden you are carrying in your shoulders right now....MY DEEPEST CONDOLENCES MR.COTTO!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:10:05 PM
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GOAT:
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People, don't get caught up in personal feelings for or against any fighter. Some people on this site don't like PBF and that's fine but that doesn't mean he is wrong. PBF never said he was the people champ, fighting for glory, or anyhting like that. He said that he fights for checks hence the name "Money". PBF never claimed to be the moral superior but he had never cheated in any fight, he has never hit his oponent with a low blow, rabbit punch, or any other illegal blow. He is who he says he is. But Pac portrays himself as a God fearing moral superior, Pac got everything he wanted in the negotiations, even a 10 million a pound overweight penalty, Pac choose the date, the size gloves, the weight, who enters the ring first and the money split. The only thing PBF wants is to be certain there is a level playing firld when they fight. Remember, Pac positions himself as the moral superior but he refuses to randomly be checked for drugs? gain, I know some people hate PBF but don't be blinded by your hate that you cannot see the truth. I hope Pac is clean! I hope the they fight in the ring and not in court! but Pac is the one holding the fight up. Funny, Freddie Roach has been uncarracteristically quiet on this one!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:24:46 PM
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Hit hard:
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There we go again accusing pacquiao about steriods just because he demolished Miguel Cotto... People you all know who brought that out because he trained someone that got knock out on the second round which is ricky hatton, that man and now also his son doesn't want to loose that zero lost he want's to keep it that way because mayweather jr is afraid to fight pacman, And also De lahoya was batterd and he want't to ride on the other side which is mayweather team that's because he promote a sorry ass fighter..
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:26:31 PM
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Dude:
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@Goat
Pac is willing to have a blood test done after the fight. That is the best time to see if pac really inded taking steroids or not. And who the heck is Floyd asking another fighter to a random blood testing? He is just another boxer. NSAC has been the governing body for drug testing in boxing since the dawn of boxing. I agree with Coolwaterjinx on this one. Floyd doesnt care about his floyd fans or his legacy in boxing.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:36:39 PM
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joe:
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Marion Jones passed all Olympics drug tests and was caught only when cross-examined in a court of justice Barry Bond's name was listed as regularly taking steroids but nary a hoot is raised. Several steroid guys in MBL are still in the roster of their teams.
This article presumes that since Arum is there defending pacquiao, pacquiao should be guilty as alledged by maywether. Why is Mosley still allowed to fight, he was caught having taken steroids? Of course his steroid was no match to Cotto's boxing.
So with or without steroids, since Pacquiao is not a black person, he should pilloried as a bad drug user. He accepted for blood test before and after the fight. But it seems that maywether and his cohorts want to take samples in the middle of Pacquiao's training and right before the fight night. Have you donated blood before? Can you recall how painful your arm after the needle had been retracted from your vein? For 3 days your arm is numb and aching, how can you train properly? Just becuase maywether say so, that rules of boxing should be amended? There should be no Nevada Boxing Commission, it should be supplanted with Maywether,- dela Hoya Commission.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:39:59 PM
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my condolences to miguel cotto and his family. i really feel sorry for cotto. he was a great ambassador for boxing. he was a complete gentleman. its unfortunate that the beating he took from margarito really destroyed him. he was never the same, all it takes is one fight. i dont think arum cared about him once cotto was about to leave top rank. im not blaming top rank but they knew he had the heart and whoever they wanted him to fight he would fight. But they didn't look out for him. man i really feel sorry for a guy who gave his all everytime, and he never cheated the fans at all. Cotto was the ultimate class act and gentleman in boxing.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:45:55 PM
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nicely put, you are right roach has disappeared and anytime you hear from him hes saying he wants a marquez 3 fight. good call
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 03:50:19 PM
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Badong:
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Forgive Ron, he's an old demented man still trying to write biased articles especially when it comes to Pacquiao. I agree with one commenter, the subject is about Cotto but that Arum, Pacquiao and Margarito are the villains in his life who got more exposure in this article. Arum acted only in protecting his other fighter (Margarito) which is predictable. I would be surprised if he condemned Margarito, his fighter after the fight with Mosley. Ron and Floyd Sr. are like minded persons whose IQ's are lower than retards (prove it is not, like you wanted Manny to do, c'mon it's not gonna hurt and I'm not suggesting MENSA to oversee it) and that is only my opinion. Yuk, yuk.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:01:21 PM
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Gintong Lahi:
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This article is somewhat a Golden Boy-tainted-inspired-instigated piece purposedly written to destroy the images of Bob Arum (and Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach) in the guise of symphatizing with Cotto. I could sense the hands of Golden Boy doing the trick as his treacherous double-faced actions against Manny Pacquiao came to light. Ha, ha, ha. With all the hooplahs, my sentiment is still with Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach and Bob Arum. Nothing can save Floyd Jr, Golden Boy and their dirty dozen accomplices from the wrath of boxing fans the world over.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:01:22 PM
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Gintong Lahi:
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Goat must be real crazy. He just want blood test regardless whether it is needed or not. The fact of the matter is: Da Floyd is afraid to get beaten and with swollen and bloody face the night he meets Pacquiao in the ring. So much with this mind games. Da Floyd just lose his image and refutation and AT&T and the likes are now lowering the boom on the Big Mouth. Watch out for the petition to shoot down Da Floyd, it is now going around.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:13:11 PM
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Reply to GOAT:
Quote, "PBF never claimed to be the moral superior but he had never cheated in any fight, he has never hit his oponent with a low blow, rabbit punch, or any other illegal blow. He is who he says he is. But Pac portrays himself as a God fearing moral superior, Pac got everything he wanted in the negotiations, even a 10 million a pound overweight penalty, Pac choose the date,..."
First, PBF "cheated" Marquez by coming in over the weight limit intentionally.
Second, it was PBF (not Pacquiao) who chose the date (March 13) to fight Pacquiao, maybe wishing that it would be too soon for Pacquiao to fight and turn it down.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:14:05 PM
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@GOAT, also you have to remember that Marion Jones was tested under the USADA Olympic-style testing. I must add that all(baseball players and Mosley) of them were connected to the Balco case. Manny has no links to Balco. The excuses you heard from Manny about afraid of needles and religious beliefs were all rumors. The true statements from him was only about him being weakened from the blood test in the Morales fight.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:25:07 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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@GOAT, Pac signed the contract first that had no random testing. Scareweather stalled the fight twice. He wanted to fight Pac at 154 which was a freakin joke and now demanding a random blood test.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:29:11 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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@Scareweather fans, how did Marion Jones find a way to test negative by the USADA while participating in the Olympics? How did RJJ tested positive under the NSAC for PEDs?
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:31:45 PM
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Gintong Lahi:
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I guess this blood testing sort of thing is NOT yet a "proven" perfect thing. It's like being under "experimentation" stage and definitely - NO ONE knows the exact accuracy, legitimacy, or accurateness of the test. Well, Big Mouth is playing smart, but the Pacman is NOT stupid and so with millions of his fans.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:48:29 PM
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Gintong Lahi:
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The ones who is looking hardly with Cotto now could be the Golden Boy. He is using Cotto to draw criticism to Bob Arum and Pacquiao. You see, The Golden Boy is now a wrecked boxer turned Golden Surrender. He is in the business not as a boxer but manipulating the game he used to loved so much. He uses boxing to make money - that is, whether to lie, cheat and destroy the images of his opponents in bizniz.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 04:53:28 PM
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When will you jokers understand that the Pacman is not refusing blood testing, just random testing up to the day before the fight., because he believes it will surely make him weak? Haven't you jokers seen the video of Manny being interviewed after the first Morales fight in which he declared quite vehemently that the reason he lost that fight was because they took blood two days before the fight, and he felt it made him weak during the fight? Now it may be psychological, but there it is, it's always in his mind. You think he'd want to do it again? You must be freakin' nuts if you do. This is the reason why Roach said early on (even before the talks started and there was a rumor that The Yellow Duck is going to demand Olympic-type blood testing) that they can do all the blood testing they want but he's not going to allow blood being drawn from Manny anytime close to the fight. That's why Roach is so emotional everytime somebody mentions blood testing to him. He gets easily upset because they got experience. You think Roach would let it happen again? That's the very core of Manny's refusal of random blood testing. He will be giving away the fight if he agrees. So the Yellow Duck has unfairly and shamelessly put Manny between a rock and a hard place. It seems like if he refuses, he'll be branded as a cheater, as someone who has something to hide. On the other hand, if he agrees, he might as well be giving the fight to the Yellow Duck on a silver platter, because he believes the random testing would surely weaken him and thus lose his vaunted power. The Yellow Duck doesn't need power to win. All he has to do is run and take a few pot shots and be boring as hell. So he can take all the random testing they can give him and still win, albeit in the most boring fashion. But Manny needs his power to win, which random testing will take away. No wonder Manny is not budging. Why can't you, jokers, understand that? Why do you fault Manny for refusing when he has a legitimate reason? We're not even talking about principles here, on which Manny can base his refusal and still be in the right. You're talking about athletes losing their right to presumption of innocence. But most athletes you're referring to are directly implicated in steroid scandals. Bonds, MacGuire, Clemens, the list goes on. Surely it's imperative on these people to clear themselves, to prove they're innocent. And it they didn't come up to the plate, it's their loss. In their case, presumption of innocence is not applicable. But in the case of Manny, it's purely speculation. No one has ever come forward and directly linked Manny to steroid use. Surely presumption of innocence is not lost in that case. But we're not even talking about that, as I said. I repeat, Manny has got a legitimate, a practical reason, for refusing random blood testing. And it's jokers like you who are muddling the issue and blindly and unreasonably refusing to recognize Pac's postion, who also has a right to look out for himself, as you are inexplicably lookin' out for Cotto. 'Nuff said.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:00:11 PM
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This article is baloney, come on Ron you are better than this. Why do you include Pacquiao right next to Margarito after they both defeated Cotto....and say Pac allegedly cheated. Just because a Filipino is the number one pound for pound...you guys are bias...
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:05:03 PM
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Gintong Lahi:
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You could not hear anything from both sides because they were under gag order. ThaT'S THE REASON FREDDIE ROACH IS QUIET.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:05:47 PM
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coolwaterjinx:
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let the cotto vs margacheato begin for the second time around!..
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:07:34 PM
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entradero:
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Birds of the same feather flock together.Floyd, Shaefer, Oscar and you.
Cheaters will always cheat and they think that everyone are cheaters.Everyone knows floyd is a cheater.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:07:51 PM
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frkind:
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Ron i think you and mayweather are the same... COWARD.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:08:02 PM
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EMILIO:
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YES iPAQUIAO looks like HULK HOGAN incredible.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:21:51 PM
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Jersey Joe:
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Ron, It sure looks like you're trying to discount Cotto's loss to Pacquiao by lumping Pacquiao's name with that of Margarito's. Margarito was caught cheating. Pacquiao has ALWAYS tested negative for any drugs. It is also inaccurate to say that Arum and Pacquiao are both refusing the blood tests. For the record, Manny is willing to be tested immediately after the fight. If he was cheating, wouldn't the illegal substances still be present?
All you writers who are asking for Pacquiao to prove his innocence seem to forget that the burden of proof is on the accusers, which in this case are the Mayweathers. Whatever happened to presumption of innocence unless proven guilty?
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:28:52 PM
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Lorrie:
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this article isnt about cotto anymore its about pacquiao and top rank. what are you trying to prove here or trying to say? you cannot jump into conclusion and think that pacquiao is on something. shame on you. ill give you an advice to never write again hahaha
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:30:09 PM
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Anonymous user:
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RON B, please don't try to insinuate that you're looking for Cotto's welfare. It was revea
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:32:09 PM
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SALT lover@btb:
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Boy, boy, boy it's incredible how IGNORANT people write whole bunch of things that are so WRONG!!! First off, the one who chose the March date was Pacquiao cuz he wanted to enter POLITICS! HELLOOOOOO!!! You forgot about that?? The original date Floyd and Arum both had in mind was the May 1st, and Pacquiao said no cuz he wanted to enter politics. Then Roac contradicted the issue by claimin' the ear problem, an finally agreed to the March 13th date which PACQUIAO wanted. Second, the reason why Floyd intentionally broke the weigh-in limit with Marquez was to send a message to Roach that he was not gonna fall into the BS "catch-weight" little games Roach always does to Pacquiao''s opponent, and that he had all the money to their a$$es off to do it. That's not "cheatin" that's a MESSAGe to Roach and his goons. Besides, if Floyd PAID Marquez for that, that's not cheatin' if he paid, which he did. ........Man, it's incredible how people get things so wrong, and then they add them in the site. I don't know if it was somebody doin' it on purpose, but damn! Phew!!!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:33:31 PM
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There is not one shred of evidence against Manny for him to have deal with this BS. The classless and hypocritical GSP and Mayweather clan threw out this crap and due to the internet world where gossip is taken as facts and facts are irrelevant since they take too long to research and don't make a good story. The foundation of journalism was based on solid fundamentals and ethics and the cardinal rule was to get your facts straight and supported before you print something. Manny has gotten slandered for no good reason other than damage his reputation in the fans eyes. Even if he takes the fight, submits to all the tests, etc., win or loss his reputation is damaged. In regards to Cotto, i think he still has a few good fights left in him and should just rest up, take the time he needs to heal up emotionally and physically, and come back when he feels the fire return. Cotto is a classy warrior with alot of skill and good for boxing.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:44:41 PM
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karlo guadalupe:
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u r impossible mate. dare u use Miguel Cotto's situation to write about Pacman's steroids issue. U have no heart. Ur just another loser who believes in what an ex con says dumbass. If anything, Pacman shud been given the benefit of the doubt here because first he has NEVER been caught once using this. Second, he has NEVER played dirty in any of his fights. Third, he has kept his quiet and didnt really retaliate against the Mayweather camp until he got full of their crappy accusations. Last but not the least nobody has got proof that he is on something. Comparing pacman to Sugar Shane's history or anybody who's taking steroids is unfair. If u havent been paying attention to ur religion class, everyone is UNIQUE. Saying that apples and oranges are the same is idiotic but they are both fruits just that they do not have EXACT same characteristics u best believe it mofos. Just like pacman and sugar shane are both boxers but they have totally different life experiences so pls dont be jumping on conclusions when u havent got hard evidence because it makes u sound dumb and uneducated. Pls write better next time if u want to make an official statement against pacman's camp so that they could also file a lawsuit against u. man up bro
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:50:51 PM
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Radam G @ #1 PacFan:
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I'm with you about Money May's umpteen frights about tangling with Manny. But when people starts a lie and tells it for a long time, the knuckleheads, naive and those not in the know believe it. Biggest beliefs in the world are of fables not hard turths or facts. Take Marion Jones for example. Their is a continous belief that she tested negative by the USADA. Not so! She was caught from the jump. It is not having steriods in you, it is the level that you have. And what caused it. Such as taking unpermitted type of steriods and PEDs. All of life, especially humans naturally produce steriods. And there are steriods big time in medication and foods. Marion Jones was given the benefit of the doubt when she came up positive with an excessive amount of steroids for a female. She was misled to say that the cause was flaxseeds and flaxseeds oil usage. She was duped by her ex-husband and a trainer who she has since sued. She came clean and became a saint and told on herself when she learned what was going on. If she would not have ever spoken up, no one would have known to this day. Because the power that be was going to let her slip through the cracks. Any way, enough about her. In the end, Money May is going to fight and lose. But the lie will live forever. PacMan has been tarnished deliverly so that Money May can always and forever make excuses for the arse thrashing that Manny is going to put on him. Any way, my condolences to Miguel and his family for the loss of his very dear, supportive dad. May he enter the highest level of Heaven. I didn't read this story by Superfightwriter Ron B because some guys in my posse told me that it is offbase and not showing sympathy for Miguel. PacMan and all are really greeding for Miguel and Puerto Rica. Holla!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 05:51:34 PM
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insideinformation:
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Reasons why Floyd Mayweather, Jr wants random testing. It is important to educate yourself about EPO and other forms of synthetic hormones before using them. It is recommended that EPO be taken in 8,000IU up to 10,000IU doses within 2 weeks and by the third week, you can see and feel the results that can last for some three to six months. EPO is one of the latest synthetic hormones that are used by athletes so they can play better in their respective sports. EPO is basically a protein hormone from your kidney and liver and it is supposed to bind with your bone marrow receptors after being released into your bloodstream. This can stimulate the production of erythrocytes or red blood cells. nd since it hastens the production of red blood cells, it can also increase the way oxygen is circulated within your system, which is beneficial for the athletes who are often involved in strenuous physical activities.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:04:59 PM
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Trueboxingfan:
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There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between Marga-cheato and PACquiao..
Margarito is a PROVEN CHEATER(caught with handwraps)WITH EVIDENCE!!! but Pacquiao is just a VICTIM of BASELESS ACCUSATIONS!!!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:07:26 PM
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why Pac should submit himself to any HGH and/or PED tests if he knows he's clean?why should he do it just because brat lil Floyd said so?why should he submit to Floyd's demand when he's the one who should be cause he's the legitimate P4P king.and why Pacman should do the test when nobody done it before?if someone had done it,why noone from Floyd's previous foes?because Pac had a clear chance to give FMJ his first loss?and why did this writer wrote about Pac cheated on Cotto when the topic should be on Cotto's next carreer move after his tragic loses, from Pac then the lost of his dad?
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:15:00 PM
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Pinoy PacFan:
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T.Weis said, "Ron, Your article seems slightly biased, heaping a lot of blame on Top Rank, specifically Pacquiao and Arum. This article is supposed to be about Miguel Cotto, but the message between the lines sifts Manny and Margarito into the same category, something that is undeserved (until proof is shown that Pacquiao is indeed guilty of using PED's or HGH). In fairness, a grave injustice has been done. A professional athlete of the highest caliber, a man who humbly and proudly represents his impoverished country, has been labled a cheater without any burden of proof. Imagine someone walking into a classroom and accusing a teacher of pedophilia; the damages would be irreversable. Pacquiao is every bit the heavy-handed puncher he always was. His record of 50 wins by 38 KO's just proves his consistency. The best evidence his accusers have is his ascent through weight divisions. Pacquiao did begin his professional career at 106 lbs at age 16, but he's not alone. Mayweather himself fought in the amateurs at 106 lbs, also at age 16. The same Mayweather who fought as high as 154 lbs. Why not accuse him? Maybe Cotto is wondering why Al Haymon has no interest in testing Shane Mosley, an admitted steroid and EPO user, before Haymon's other fighter Andre Berto enters the ring. Maybe Cotto is wondering why Shaefer was so blatantly against blood testing Mosley when Judah demanded it, stating that Mosley doesn't deserve to be treated like a cheater. Maybe Cotto accepts that he will never know what happened last summer against Margarito, but the fighter in him wants to find his answers in the ring. Maybe Cotto was proud to last 11.5 rounds against the best in the world, humble in defeat, making no excuses while his father stood at his side."
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:25:13 PM
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Boracho:
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Of course it is Arum who is looking after him. Your article and your opinion is shortsighted and tilted. If Arum tried to defend Margarito, it did not mean that he favored him over Cotto. He was trying to defend Margarito from his accusers and not from Cotto. If you have two children who have been fighting and you are trying to defend one from other outsider foes does it mean that you do not love the other child?
One other thing, why do you equate or put on the same category Manny with Margarito. Manny has not been proven to have taken in PED. Not wanting to have one's blood taken is not tantamount to being a drug user. Your argument and supposition are fallacious. What a shame.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:33:33 PM
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Pinoy PacFan in Dubai, UAE:
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arn said, "Your whole article is based on assumption. As if everyone that should be on Cotto's side did something against Cotto. Just because Team Mayweather demands drug testing for pacquiao does not mean he is guilty. Would you entertain an accuser who accuses you of drug use, if the accuser uses drugs, sells drugs, and went to jail because of drugs and is declared a criminal because of drugs in our court system? All the more if you know you are clean? I am amaze why woull you ever put your name on this article as a writer! "
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:33:42 PM
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"Now with Pacquiao sitting under a cloud of his own making by refusing to agree to reasonably effective random blood tests for PEDs and blood doping..." That is utter BS. As was this article. I was expecting to read about Cotto - instead I had to read about cheap shots directed at Pacquiao. "...under a cloud of his own making" - how can you make such a foolish statement? This was of Mayweather's making because he's looking for a way out of this fight. "Who Is Looking Out For Miguel Cotto?" It sure wasn't the author of this article - instead of using this opportunity to write about Cotto and the passing of his father in a meaningful and respectful manner - he just used it to take potshots at people. Shameful.
"What must Cotto be thinking as he mourns the passing of his father in Puerto Rico?" What must he be thinking? Probably about his father, life and death, his family, the brevity of our existence on this earth - certainly not about any of the useless crap you've brought up in this article. Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my time.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 06:40:49 PM
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pac*u:
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SO SAD TO HEAR ABOUT MIGUEL SR. Maybe Miguel Jr. will reunite with his uncle, Evangelista.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 07:01:02 PM
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Joe Carbonel:
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Don't accused a person until proven guilty, shame on you! Pacman is a clean fighter and never tested positive for PED or any enhancing drugs. You are a freak'n racist! This guy came from a dirt poor family and boxed his ass off to stardom, now that he is on top of the sport, US boxers including the Golden Boy are findings ways to destroy his image its because he is a foreign boxer and the #1 in the whole earth. PAC its time to hang it up, you have enough money to live for. Embarassing for boxing and its getting dirty!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 07:33:43 PM
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Cotto sucked:
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Cotto never was a good fighter before or was he is now...Felix trinadad would murder Pac cheat
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:04:28 PM
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SALT lover@Cotto sucked:
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With the exception of the cheat part, and not cuz I don't agree but cuz there's speculation now more than ever, but no proof, I definitely agree with that. Felix Trinidad in 147lbs, was a GIGANTIC beast that would've demolished anybody that would come across his path. Technically solid boxer, or SLICK boxers like Floyd Mayweather Jr (40-0) always gave him deep problems, but against the likes of Cotto, one single punch from Trinidad, and it was over. There were soundin' a possible Cotto-Trinidad match for the two of them to say good-bye in their careers in a weight between 160-168, but I doubt it would end like that for the two of them. Even if they do fight, I'll pick Trinidad hands down, but both have seen their best days gone by......................what you think about that donputo69 and Anony? Sounds good for us Ricans? Hehehehehehehe! Checkezzzzz!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:18:32 PM
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Disinformation:
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Nicely done and burned a lot of estrogen on this article just to side with Mayweather by using Cotto Sr's bereavement. Cotto had been hit with low blows before but this one takes the cake. You hit the man while he's down, deliberately insult the Cotto family and DISHONOR COTTO Sr...Congratulations!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:23:26 PM
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jkc:
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Miguel cotto is a great fighter,he has power in both hands and a great sense of the ring.During the promotionals leading up to his great fights his father Miguel senior would be interviewed, Miguel senior was a man of family, class, boxing knowledge, humanity and civility. RIP, Miguel senior only the great one;s DIE TO YOUNG, you were a man will all will miss ,especially miguel and your grand children.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:26:34 PM
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Miguel Cotto is one of the best boxer ever to exist. His first loss came from a cheater and its no shame to loss again to the much superior and P4P king Manny Pacman Pacquiao. Cotto is very much on top of his game to this date of his boxing career. I think he can still win a title... welterweight or light middleweight division.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:35:04 PM
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Ron, are you dumb? Are you sure Cotto did not take HGH/ PED for that matter even when he was defeated by Pacquiao? Under your argument that all athletes are no longer presumed innocent these days then ALL boxers are guilty of being under PED because they are not subjected to Olympic style testing? Just because the Mayweather camp is accusing Pacquiao of using PED does not mean Floyd himself did not use PEDs in his previous fights because he did not undergo Olympic style testing during those fights. He cannot prove it! What a piece of shit this article is! I thought it was to console a great fighter, instead, it is a veiled bashing of another one!
nice comment marloun, this writer sucks!!!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:39:43 PM
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kojak:
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For Miguel Cotto...Condolence to you and your family... Always remember, its now how you fall, but it's how you get up!!! These are just trials which im sure you can surpass. God Bless.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 08:41:31 PM
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aljamieson:
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Hey, since we are allowing Mayweather to "clean up" boxing, then we should revisit his allegations of racism against HBO commentators. As I recall, HBO took no action to stop the racism Mayweather accused Lampley et al of (and Mayweather's accusations require that the subject of said accusations prove innocence), so the racism must still be rampant. There needs to be an investigation, and I am proud to be the first to demand it.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 09:14:56 PM
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bbtroy:
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One writer from another site made funny inferences on employer applicant analogy. Employer asked the applicant (Pacquiao) to submit to dope tests. He added the applicant does not have the right to question the pre-condition if he really wants the job. The writer made fool of himself dismissing the idea who is the employer and applicant in the Paquiao-Mayweather fiasco. Mayweather certainly is not the employer but if he is a co-applicant, he has no right to demand the other applicant to submit to blood test to make sure he gets the job.
Some writers demonstrate stupidity by their dumb opinions.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 09:28:09 PM
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isidro:
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The article is symphatizing as well as allegating.Forget it Pacquiao will fight and win against Mayweather Jr. or not.
Men landed on the moon but the allegation lives on,but it didn't stop sending the rovers on the surface of Mars .Who knows allegation of some sorts will once again come up,those are facts of our human lives on earth.Boxing history will always be gentle not in the generational perceptions but the substance
of facts that will stand the test of time.Now just like every one else ,i do hope that 9 hours mediated meeting but with a gag order not to comment will finally result a fight in the ring.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 09:33:49 PM
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Smiley C:
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Hmmm! This is not the time or place. Show some respect to the Cotto family for goodness sake. Y'all are kind rude for a sad time like this fo' sure!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 09:40:55 PM
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FE'ROZ :
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There is one thing for certain. Ron Borges can never be accused of using PED's. His performance here is a disgrace; the quality of his writing is horrendous. As always it is needlessly ....and in this case recklessly ... provocative. And lacking in substance. Make no mistake. This has everything to do with my opinion of Borges as a columnist and nothing to do with any of those mention in this article. Certainly not Miguel Cotto. Nor Margarito. Nor Arum. Nor Pacquiao. Not one of them. It is Borges to whom I object. In this, I have been as consistent in my criticism since day one. Taking an article (presuming to be) about arguably the most difficult battle of Miguel Cotto's life, the tragic loss of his father, and turning it into a Fleet Street trashing of all those who dared to defeat him, is unconscionable. As in Floyd Pops Mayweather unconscionable....but worse. Borges has a greater responsibility. And at best, this article is the height of insensitivity and the depth of irresponsibly.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 09:45:27 PM
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As for Miguel Cotto and his family, my heart goes out to you and yours in your time of grief. You are and have always been a proud warrior, supported by the love of your loving father until his tragic end. May he rest in peace.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 09:49:41 PM
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ian11rukawa:
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To all people who are still under the influence of PEDS issue, you are starting to sounde idiotic. There shoudn't be an issue in the first place. You just fell on the spell of the Mayweathers. Did you think Manny is on PEDS if Mayweather Sr. did not mention it. No. So stop whining and see through it. If a fighter wants to fight he just sign the contract, gets his @ss on the gym and fight in the ring. He don't demand crazy things like Mayweather. If mayweather wants the fights it is easily made. e.g. Judah after hiss loss to baldomir, hatton in 147 after a poor performance in another fight at 147, marquez climbing from light to welter. If Mayweather wants the fight it will be made. Sorry for all of us. This Pacquiao fight will only be in your PS3 and XBOX or in your dreams.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 10:20:04 PM
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MisterLee:
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RIP Cotto Sr. This article is full of ______ . What a load of crock to jump on the witch hunt fo' sure! @ Salt Lover. Trinidad had illegal wraps in the Hopkins fight fo ' sure! Prime oscar outboxed that mummy fo 'sure! Holler!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 10:20:56 PM
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FE'ROZ :
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Now, all that said above, I often think about Cotto, the fighter. I just happened to re-watch the Torres fight the other day; the fight that arguably showed us Miguel at his best and at the same time gave us a glimpse of what ultimately lay in wait. I speak here both of his exquisite timing and his momentary lapses that allowed injury to ensue. He is an elusive fighter. Or at least he was. He could counter both speed and power while at the same time applying relentless pressure. Relentless, that is, until he met someone more relentless. Antonio Margarito. Whatever may or may not have been in his hands that night, it wasn't in his face. Or Jaw. Because Margarito walked right through Miguel's best power shot after power shot...face first. And never buckled. Well before the accumulated damage, Cotto was beyond uncomfortable with the pressure. If styles make fights, for Cotto, Margarito made nightmares. The same was not true of Clottey, for whom 'pressure' must be an English word with a different usage in Ghana. Not so ....unfortunately for Miguel...with Manny. But we speak here about tomorrow. I want to see more of Miguel. I do want him to listen to others. He cannot run his own corner. I do not want to see him 'unprotected'. Not by his stubbornness... nor by any future advisors. In the short run, he should fight the fights that earn him the most and risk the least. Cintron would be my choice. If , and only if he does what I expect, wears down Cintron, then I want to see his fight Margarito. I believe, however, that Margarito beats him four times out of five.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 10:24:38 PM
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insideinformation:
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Manny Pacquiao should put a gag order on his stablemate Vanes Martirosyan, Alex Ariza said that Manny, Amir and Vanes all take the same supplements. What exactly are the supplements? Is it a drink you guys take? Vanes answers, It is just a regular vitamin that Alex has made. It is regular stuff that you get at nutritional stores. CONTRADICTION! Alex Ariza say it is a 'special blend' and Vanes says it is just a 'vitamin pill'. Shouldn't they have the SAME answer? Hmmmm, strange.Ariza said no one knows what that stuff is and Vanes claims its vitamins.How can they be vitamins when Ariza claims it's his own blend of natural supplements.Wouldnt Ariza just call a spade a spade if they were vitamins?
Shane Mosley: "Refusing the test makes him look questionable."
Carlos Palomino: "If there's nothing to hide, why not take the test? Where there's smoke there's fire."
Miguel Cotto: "His refusal to take the test raises questions."
Timothy Bradley: "I would take any random test requested."
Lou DiBella: "With the people he has around him, it raises questions."
Paul Malignaggi: "I'm tired of educating the retards." Something is fishy
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 10:30:33 PM
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MisterLee:
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@ Fe'roz, I feel cotto mosley was cotto's finest hour, or even cotto gomez (since he madeit seem so effortless). Cotto used to be a patient stalker, not looking for big punches, wearing his opponents down slowly. I'm a HUGE fan of mosley, and I could see mosley gassing out around rounds 5 or 6, even tho he gave a valiant effort and even won in some pple's eyes, cotto was magnificent. Agst Clottey and Manny he was simply tryihng to win rounds and land something heavy vs. the patient "I'll get'em by round 9 mentality." Either. Much respects to Cotto. He's one of my favorite fighters and def. top 5 welter of the last decade. Holler!
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 10:49:27 PM
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SALT lover@insideinformation:
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I wanna thank you for bringing that information all this time. It is REALLY needed here in the site, even though people's hearts are with the Filipino, so nobody's gonna appreaciate it, but it really is neccessary. If Pacquiao's really cheatin' the Truth will come out sooner or later. Peace dude.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:30:48 PM
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Real Talk:
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I got nothing but the UTMOST respect for Cotto. The dude is a warrior. I mean c'mon man...he fought everybody!!! Balls big as Texas. If I'm in trouble I liked to have my back against ths guys back in the rumble...REAL TALK!!! LORD GIVE HIM STRENGTH!!! Anybody want to bring up the Cheato fight....you wouldn't have made it 2 rds. !!! He shouldn't have weakened himself for the Pac fight when he was already the slower fighter. With that said Pac was the better man that night. That's not taking nothing from Cotto. Still p4p top 10 on my list. Still got champion in'em. I need him to work on fighting in the pocket/smother game. Especially if he's rematching Tony. He also needs to work on that derecha and defense. People seem to forget about who a fighter is when he takes an L. They hail you then nail you. I predict a slicker, sharper Cotto in 2010, not the ballsout brawlout Cotto we've been seeing. It's time for him to step into his father's shoes and know that he's always with you whether you can see him or not. I've had people who passed come talk to me in my dreams. Now it's time to carry your fathers name and legacy to the next level. Honor him and make him proud. Miguel Cotto will be a hall of famer and has my respect, and respect is more valuable then money. Beleive that!!! Dueces
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:32:26 PM
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SALT lover@Mr.Lee:
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Again writin' nonsense. Trinidad was NEVER proven to have been usin' illegal handwraps to this date. That was just a simple misunderstandin' between the two camps, and even Richardson said the Trinidad thing was just an abrasion. But Trinidad was never caught usin' nothin' illegal. And about De la Hoya, yeah, I agree De la Hoya outboxed him, but it was PATHETIC the way he ended fight fight. I guess that............"mummy" made him run scared.
Wednesday Jan 6, 2010 11:35:42 PM
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FE'ROZ @ MisterLee:
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Cotto v Mosely may in fact have been his finest moment to date. My point about Torres was in reference to his timing of speed and power....he flash knocked down both Torres down and Clottey with timed shots between exchanges. And, his invulnerability or should I say his lack thereof. Torres had never fought in the US before 9/24/05. the night he whacked and threatened Cotto's undefeated status. Less than three years later, in August of 2008, Miguel met his maker. Although the ends were different, many of his strengths and weaknesses were the same.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 12:01:54 AM
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hanson:
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I like Cotto as a fighter . . and will continue to follow his future plans. However, this article is very misleading . . at the end of the day, just one of the authors that continue to back-stab Manny to no avail. LA times recent poll Manny getting the support of 80-90% of casual and hardcore boxing fans. Anyway, some thoughts on Pac vs Mayweather snafuuu:
If blood testing is institutionalized in international/professional boxing, no doubt Pacquiao will adhere to that. Pac and his team always indicated, whatever is required by the boxing commission or boxing authorities, they will abide. Definitely, moving forward Boxing authorities need to vet out what will be the appropriate tests for the sport (e.g. will it be a combination of urine or blood)
What Pacquiao will not adhere is giving in to a Group which is “NOT a paragon of virtues” – Mayweather Camp that continues to hug the limelight – for all the wrong reasons (run-ins with the law, tax problems, etc) and GBP which has a history of fighters ducking blood tests (and now trying to act like angels . . oh yeah, more like angels of dis-information and dirty tactics). Sad to see that they try to make a good case of random blood testing . . and then back-stab with articles in the media insinuating unsupported allegations. Well, the court of Law will now keep them honest, as a case has been filed.
Its unfortunate we always get excuses from those of the opposite side – - (a) Pacquiao is fighting washed up fighters . . next (b) Pacquiao the catch weight king . . . when, these two wouldn’t fly, even if these people shouted to the ends of the earth . . they, instantly rode on the (c) Pac must be on the roids. WOW, from dismissing Pacquiao’s performance as so-so . . to saying, “his hitting guys with a strength of a mule” . . same excuse, Delahoya was making “i thought pacquiao was fast, but he did’nt hit strong . . to suddenly, changing the music to claim that Pac hits like Mosley”.
So guys, the majority of the boxing fans and mainstream people will not buy in to your crap). Lets see how the PPV of Mayweather stacks up moving forward (i.e. the only reason people watch him vs the bulk-slow moving Marquez, was a possible preview against Pac) . . bet Mayweather’s future numbers will not come close to Pac Monster, thats for sure!
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 12:06:54 AM
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SALT lover@insideinformation:
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Oh! I forgot! In regards of what you said about the reason of why Floyd wants to do all those stuff about the blood test, maybe Floyd and his people know somethin' we don't and the blood tests are their way to express to the public, which makes me doubt whether that lawsuit is gonna do anythin' at all. One thin' for certain, it ain't worryin' Floyd at all, since he's more worried about Rick Ross, than the lawsuit XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That dude's spendin' times in partys and stuff. Good points!
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 12:18:18 AM
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Derrick:
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This article is not even about Miguel Cotto. It's about this guy's beef with Bob Arum. We all know the boxing promoters are shady characters, but don't be using Cotto and his family as a means of getting something off your chest. The author is definitely not looking out for Miguel Cotto.
If he were, he would be extolling him for his boxing skills, his career, and the gentleman that he is.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 12:56:53 AM
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DEL:
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Know your facts man, Pacman never refused of being tested. Its just the timing of the test.
This articleis not slightly biased but it is obviously pure bias. It did not also live with its title.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 12:58:08 AM
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Isaiah:
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Miguel Cotto is a very good fighter and a gentleman and has more guts then someone like Floyd Mayweather could ever fathom. Plus the likes of criminals like Bob Arum and Don King should go ahead and die. All hate spewing aside, my thoughts and a prayer go out to the Cotto family. I'm deeply sorry for their loss and hope Miguel and his Uncle will forget the past.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 03:01:34 AM
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Bugoy:
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If the writer solicits pity for cotto, he can have some of mine.. but none whatsoever from puerto rico, because their hero will always be a hero.. long live the cotto's!
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 03:45:53 AM
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oskar:
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insideinformation your information is always incomplete you forgot to add that epo can be very much detected in the urine. And again Pac didn't refuse the drug test, Pac accepted 3 blood test with unlimited random urine test. To Cotto condolence and make up with your uncle, it's time to cherish family and then come back hard, why not ask Arum to let you fight Floyd jr instead its obvious that his ducking(floyding) the Pacman maybe he'll give you a chance now not unless Floyd jr would prefer Mattew of Malignaggi.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 07:56:10 AM
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aaron cuellar fl:
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my prayers and thoughts go out to the cotto vazquez family at this troubling time in your lives. keep your head up high and remember that god never gives us to much that we cant handle. cant wait for your return to the ring in 2010, god bless you and your family miguel we love you here and florida and support you no matter what decisions you make for your future plans, god bless.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 10:59:42 AM
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Kurt Smith:
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Borges has lost all credibility mentioning Margarito and Pacquiao in the same context.
RIP Don Miguel
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 12:35:54 PM
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freddie manfat flushing ny:
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great title for this article and a great question. who knows the answer. promoters are well known for conflicts of interests. but even beyond that , who is looking out for him in his own corner, the rookie trainer he has did a terrible job with this fight . little or no instructions between rounds no confidence in cotto asking him if he wnts to continue as early as the 7 round, granted he was already hurt but what chance does that give the fighter mentally if his corner is ready to quit on him. he needs emanuelle stewart .if stewart would have had him since at least the Judah fight he would have been a avoided by both pacman and money mayweather. even buddy mcgurt could have done what he did for thunder gatti when gatti appeared to be on his way out. a little more defense or offense more boxing technique. i love cotto and what he represents in and out of the ring. some one old school needs to grab this guy and take him to the promised land even roach would be a help..great fighters could use great trainers ..just a thought
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 01:43:35 PM
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Matthew:
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I have to disagree with Borges on this one. Margarito has been proven to be a cheater beyond a reasonable doubt. There is not a shred of evidence to suspect Pacquiao has ever used PEDs, other than hearsay by the Mayweather camp and Golden Boy. Pacquiao has NEVER tested positive for ANYTHING. If anything, Golden Boy is being hypocritical. When Zab Judah asked for stricter testing leading up to a proposed fight with Golden Boy partner Shane Mosley, an admitted user of PEDs, Golden Boy refused. To put equate Pacquiao with Margarito is irresponsible at best, and libelous at worst. I would agree that boxing should have more extensive testing across the board, but not because one guy in the sport is a genetic marvel. As I've said before, this is Mayweather talking his way out of a fight he's not 100% sure he can win in order to take an easier fight. I have no interest in Mayweather unless he fights Pacquiao or Mosley.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 02:24:23 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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@Matthew, very good post and may I add that before all of this Oscar(GBP) said that Manny's punches didn't hurt one bit. Now all of a sudden he says that Manny's punches felt like Mosley and Vargas's. I used to be a huge fan of ODLH but now he has turned into a drama queen.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 03:22:16 PM
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Matthew:
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@PacFan. Yet another ridiculous statement by De La Hoya. The man contradicts himself all the time. Boxers have tremendous pride, and I don't expect him to say that Pacquiao's punches hurt him badly, but to say that they didn't hurt him one bit makes him look and sound foolish. Pacquiao's punches hurt badly enough to swell his eye nearly shut and cause him to quit on his stool.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 04:02:55 PM
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pete steward:
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retire cotto life is too short......and death is waaaaay too long.
Thursday Jan 7, 2010 09:34:39 PM
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Kid Dynamite:
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According to Borges a boxer is guilty of PEDs until proven innocent. This sounds like the formula of a witch hunt. The reason why Pacquiao is being accused is because many can't believe a normal human being can move up in weight & still have KO power over 7 weight divisions. But why should his KO success be the strongest motive for accusing him of steroids? Fernando Vargas got knocked out by Dela Hoya but was guilty of steroid use after the fight. Of course PEDs gives fighters an unfair advantage but simply bc Manny is so successful it doesn't mean he's guilty of illegal PED use. Maybe Manny is THAT GOOD. Why can't people accept that? A person is proven guilty of PEDs through drug testing, which Manny has passed every time. Simply bc Manny doesn't want a blood test done weeks before his fight doesn't prove he's guilty. Why can't people use his previous urine tests as proof that he is not guilty of PEDs instead of focusing on the blood test he doesn't want? Even the NSAC ruled that random urine samples before & after the fight is an effective indicator of illegal drug use. Why pick on little Manny when there are other boxers out there who are truly taking steroids? Why not start blood-testing them? The argument should not be on forcing Manny to take a blood test but to make blood-testing a requirement for every fighter. Once the NSAC makes blood-testing mandatory, then Manny will have no choice but to comply. It's not right to force 1 fighter to take a blood-test when all other fighters don't have to. To say that Manny is guilty until proven innocent is only reinforcing the belief that Manny is taking steroids without proof. People just want Manny to fail & making sure he is guilty of PEDs is definitely 1 way to go about it, even if he never took them. Even if he does pass a blood test, people will come up with other excuses to bring him down. Maybe the next step will be to see if he's half monkey. If Manny refuses to take that blood test then people will accuse him of cheating. Sure, it's not fair that he was born half monkey, half human. That gives him an unfair advantage. Therefore, he should be banned from boxing.
Friday Jan 8, 2010 10:51:16 AM
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ssurfer:
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Great article! Very insightful. Not sure why some posters don't get it Proving you are "clean" (not juicing) is a matter of honor. It's like when you touch gloves before a fight. Sure, touching gloves is only a ritual but the meaing behind it is to show that you have no weapon and the fight is man to man (mano a mano).
Arum and Pacquiao's team should have a restraining order not allowing them to arrange another fight until the Nevada Commission rules on the proposed random testing or Congress has hearings on the matter.
Friday Jan 8, 2010 09:58:08 PM
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Caloysky:
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Hi Mr. Borges! I always admired you being a very good sports journalist. But right now, the way you made your article it'seems like you're joining the Pachaters nation. Everything is just simple cultural issues that went crazy. Will you believe the Mayweathers who are liars right in front of us and the Dad was a convicted felon? Will you listen to them despite the grave and unprofessional conduct they had shown when he fought Marquez? Was there any incident that Pacquiao acting unpolitely, crazy, unprofessional inside and outside the ring? Please Mr. Borges, be fair and we'll just accept the fact that he is a gifted fighter just like the other great fighter from the past.
Saturday Jan 9, 2010 07:47:35 PM
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john welch:
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This is a tight one, I totally believe one is innocent until proven guilty, that said how does one prove innocence or should one prove their innocence? Where one is required or asked to demonstrate integrity, fairness and honor in competing against others, should become mandatory, one should also be willing to do so without any excuse or hesitation. These 2 particular fights that Cotto had with pac man and margarita clearly flag up some interesting and serious questions. Bob is part of the boxing game and the boxing game still has allot of unsavory characters, elements and practices. Money still dominates and controls boxing and we should never forget this. I am a massive fan of Miguel Cotto but strongly believe Cotto is to honorable and naive with his boxing counterparts including his strange relationship with Bob Arum. That said I am not casting aspersions at anyone, if any person with reasonable intelligence looked at both fights before and after including all the unfolding events of pac man and margarita there are unavoidable questions and inconsistent behavior and responses to being honorable and to demonstrating integrity. I do not feel sorry for Cotto because he will rise from this horrible nightmare. One thing is for certain, Miguel Cotto is a large human being who history will look favorably upon. History will not look kindly upon pac man or margarita but will forever leave a cloud of doubt and suspicion in any fair minded persons MIND.....MORE POWER TO MIGUEL COTTO AND MAY HIS LIGHT SHINE BRIGHTER EXPOSING THOSE WHO ARE NOT MEN OF INTEGRITY AND HONOR BUT OPPORTUNISTS..........PEACE
Sunday Jan 10, 2010 06:13:13 AM
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Allan Valenzuela:
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I think Cotto vs Mayweather or Cotto vs Ricky Hatton is the best match i wanna see....
Monday Jan 11, 2010 07:34:32 PM
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jackbw9:
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What kind of looking after does a fighter need? When he is given the opportunity of a career-defining fight, his job is to WIN the fight!
This article sounds like you're trying to put words in Cotto's mouth. If you have your own doubts then please do tell us your thoughts. If you want to write about Cotto's thoughts then ask him what's on his mind before writing about it.
I can only see one purpose (make that agenda) for this speculative article, and that is to use Cotto's personal tragedy to further fan the doubts on Pacquiao's career. By putting Margarito and Pacquiao in the same category you are basically telling us something without actually saying it. That's pretty much what one defendant in the lawsuit did when he claimed Pac's punches felt the same as roided Mosley & Vargas.
Tuesday Jan 12, 2010 02:20:23 AM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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