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Timothy Bradley Gets Standby Call For Manny Pacquiao
By David A. Avila
WBO junior welterweight titleholder Timothy “Desert Storm” Bradley has received the standby call to fight Manny Pacquiao on Thursday should Floyd “Money” Mayweather pull out of the mega fight with the Filipino super star due to demands for Olympic style drug testing.
It could be the best Christmas gift imaginable for the Palm Springs fighter.
“HBO thinks a fight with Timothy Bradley is a good action fight,” said Cameron Dunkin, who manages Bradley and numerous other top prizefighters. “They don’t think Malignaggi would be a crowd pleasing fight.”
Pacquiao’s refusal to agree to Olympic style drug testing rather than the traditional testing offered by Nevada State Athletic Commission has prompted Mayweather to possibly scuttle the mega fight planned for March 13, at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Though Malignaggi was first discussed, having Bradley as an alternative was suggested to HBO, said Dunkin adding that the network prefers the Palm Spring fighter’s attacking style.
Bradley loves the idea.
“I would love to fight the guy if Mayweather don’t want to fight. Any time, just let me know. It’s as simple as that,” said Bradley by telephone on Christmas Eve. “I’m willing to step in if they want to fight someone who is hungry and who really wants to fight.”
Malignaggi was first mentioned as an opponent, but according to sources HBO does not like the match up. That’s where Bradley comes into the picture.
Bradley’s dominating performance against Lamont Peterson nearly two weeks ago and previous battles against Kendall Holt, Junior Witter and Nate Campbell have suddenly boosted his visibility. His full attack style is another factor.
“I just want to fight the best in the world,” said Bradley who is co-promoted by Gary Shaw Productions and Thompson Boxing. “Money plays a factor but it doesn’t motivate me. Fighting the best motivates me.
Mayweather and Pacquiao were both guaranteed a minimum of $25 million to fight each other in a battle of the two best fighters Pound for Pound in boxing. In Bradley’s last fight that took place on Dec. 12 against Peterson, the Southern Californian made $300,000. It’s a huge jump in money and fighting ability.
And what about the drug test?
“I don’t see what the big deal is. Manny Pacquiao doesn’t have a history of taking illegal substances,” said Bradley. “That’s what the commissions are here for.”
Bradley says getting a shot at Pacquiao or Mayweather is a dream fight.
“It’s amazing because this is the fight I’ve always wanted my whole career: To get a chance at fighting the best fighter pound for pound in the world. I know in my heart I can compete with this guy,” Bradley said. “I know what makes him so great. I feel I have the talent that I have and with my speed and ability I can compete with anyone.”
In the next few days will it be Mayweather, Malignaggi or Bradley?
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Fe'Roz :
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You have to love this guy. All balls. Not something you can say about every elite name in this game. “I just want to fight the best in the world. Money plays a factor but it doesn’t motivate me. Fighting the best motivates me." Words like music to boxing fans everywhere. Merry Christmas my brothers.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:35:57 PM
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fogfrogblog:
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Now there's a fighter who got guts and has a clear head. What is the big deal with Floyd insisting his own thing with the blood test. Pacquiao has no history of illegal substance, and "that's what the commissions are here for." Could not said it better myself!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:36:13 PM
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JS:
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I agree Fe'Roz. Forget about Floyd or Malignaggi, they are whiners. Even if you win against them, they will always find an excuse why they did. We need boxers like Bradley, the likes of Cotto as a warrior. Men's boxing should be reserved only for men with character and not whiners who looks for excuses.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:47:08 PM
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macho:
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If only Floyd has half the "balls" of this guy, the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight will happen.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:48:22 PM
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donputo69 :
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Now this is more better....F**K scareweather...this fight should happen...Bradley vs pacquiao...i will pay to see that anytime...holla back!!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:49:59 PM
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Radam G:
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Desert Storm Bradley is gutty, but as green as a rain forrest. He is very confident in his skin, but just doesn't have the IT factor that one needs to battle the top dawgs. He will get blown out or run like a gazelle. Any way, much admiration to this developing young warrior. He'll fight Manny close and get knocked out in two rounds or take flight and last nine rounds to the distance 12th round. Holla!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:56:22 PM
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GUEST:
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i've always thought that bradley is a better opponent for manny than floyd. i hope that floyd won't muster enough courage to face paquiao so that fight fans can enjoy a full action encounter come march 13. all go for pacquiao-bradley!!!!!
run, floyd, run! oh wait, there are featherweights out there for you!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 09:59:00 PM
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Dimo:
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I say yes to this. Bradley has a belt and Pacquiao has belt, The fight would unify two belt. Makes more sense.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:03:02 PM
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donputo69 @ Radam:
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You think he will get KO'D IN 2?....lmfao....i dont think so...it will be a very good and close fight....i say pacquaio by late stoppage...11th round TKO or UD...holla back!!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:09:18 PM
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MC:
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the first paragraph.. floyd mayweather jr. is pulling out of the fight because of the drug testing? isn't it the other way around?
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:09:34 PM
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Fe'Roz @ Radam :
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At least he will come to fight. A man that is willing to risk his title and his '0' has my respect.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:12:55 PM
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russ:
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Mayweather is running already , bradley is no match for manny nor is paulie anyway its mannys call he s the champ but then again who really calls the shots in boxing .
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:14:54 PM
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iriga city boy:
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Tim Bradley is the man!! He is a non stop fighting machine.I don't think he cares about thorough testing.If the NSAC got him a clean bill of health,he's ready.that's a brave man.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:15:40 PM
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BraveHeart:
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Goodbye little Floyd. Hello Bradley! Let's get it ON!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:18:27 PM
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Manny Manosig:
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5th round ko
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:19:48 PM
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donputo69 :
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I agree with Fe'Roz...atleast he's willing to risk his "O"...not like that lil 81tc# scareweather...scareweather should fight the winner of vasquez and the canvas kisser lil brother marquez....lol....holla back!!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:33:02 PM
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messi:
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Dear Mr. Avila and The Sweet Science Editors:
Dear Mr. Pugmire and LA Times Editors:
This quote from a news article in March 2008 might interest you because it proves GBP and the Mayweathers are making a mockery of boxing and its fans:
\\"Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires,\\" Schaefer said. \\"The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one.\\"
-- Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy Promotions chief executive, on defending Shane Mosley from taking drug tests other than those required by the Nevada Athletic Commission for his planned fight against Zab Judah
The quote comes from an AP article published on the ESPN website entitled: "Zab Judah asks Shane Mosley to agree to blood testing for drugs before welterweight fight".
As a matter of fairness and in an effort to save boxing, I, in behalf of level-headed boxing fans, appeal that you write a more incisive story on the shenanigans GBP is trying to pull off. Thank you and Happy Holidays.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:34:40 PM
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RubenNC:
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Mayweather need a blood test to find out if he is Human or a Chicken!!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:34:51 PM
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Modelo:
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A Bradley-Pac bout will be so much better and entertaining than a Floyd-Pac. Floyd had to throw his bs just to face Pac., obviously for a reason. Pac's demand to have a blood test 30 days before the fight and immediately after the bout is fair even if he's hiding something it'll come out on fight night. But to say he is cheating is total scam, a Floyd Mayweather's way out of the bout.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:42:18 PM
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brownsugar:
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earlier Bradley's promoters said that an Olympic style test would have to apply to a Bradley Pac fight also,.. hmmm,... conflicting reports????.. I guess what I'm amazed about the most is the flurry of late holiday comments coming in from the promoters,.. boxers,.. and late night fight journalists,.. It's Chrismas man,... take a break,... have some egg nog,..fruit cake,.. Hennesey or something,... See you after the holidays peace.....
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:44:31 PM
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mcemman:
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Are the Mayweathers are saying that the NSAC procedures and testing are obsolete and their officials are incompetent and corrupt? That is why they need a new testing grounds to detect drugs in a body? PACMAN is absolutely clean and they just wonder how could a little man demolished a bigger man in a convincing fashion? That's started this all! They cannot believe in their eyes how good the PACMAN is! There is that body or commission that sees all the boxing aspects and why now change it? Something wrong with the NSAC? Please let us know?
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:49:24 PM
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SALT lover:
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Another fighter I admire, and another one I think will give Pacquiao a huge surprise, though this one I'm not so certain as I am with Floyd. And brownsugar is completely right, Bradley also said if the Pacquiao fight becomes a reality, that the USADA testings must be applied. Pacquiao's refusal to take the test will, and IS havin' effects. It's not Floyd's demands, it's Pacquiao's REFUSAL. If he's clean, which I think he is, there's nothin' wrong with that, besides it's a SPORT test. They are the best in the World, and what they will do will NOT affect nobody during trainin', nor during the fight. Anyways, this fight is not even negotiated, so there's no point in talkin' about this, at least not yet. But one thin' I'm certain, Bradley is also a SLICK fighter, with technically solid skills. He'll give Pacquiao the deepest problems since Juan Manuel, and I'm certain even more. Latezzzzzzzz!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:51:43 PM
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SALT lover@mcemman:
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Yeah, tell that to Shane Mosley.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:52:27 PM
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nicholsjet:
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We love Bradley to fight Pacquiao... Now we're talking!!!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:55:38 PM
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Frank Z:
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@Fe'Roz, i don't think we should harp on guys for talking about money, if they're the ones in the ring gettin gpunched. everyone else is talking about $$ and thye're not the ones taking the risks, i see absolutely nothing wrong with fighters making demands like that, whether verbally or through action. @ Radam, no way dude, hatton got KO'd cuase he tried to hit pacquiao in the fists with his chin. it'd be a tough fight, bradley's real good at mixing up his punches and has a solid defense, and he won't be a fool like hatton and think that he's the "bigger stronger man" and try to bowl him over, without realizing that you actually have to punch the guy to beat him in a boxing match. @dp69, lol you sound like bob arum with the scareweather bit.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:57:36 PM
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ifeo nweke:
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Team Mayweather is simply showing double standard. They will not require this test to other fighters.
Pacquiao has been certified by the Nevada athletic commission as drug free and clean for all his last fights in Nevada. What more do you want?
Floyd Mayweather as a champion is deemed questionable and tainted if he insist on this non-sense drug testing (out of commission). If he doesn't believe that the current testing by the professional boxing commission (State Commission) is enough. This also applies to Delahoya and all the boxing champions and greats the world has ever produced.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:57:38 PM
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Alan Z.:
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I think Floyd, Jr. is not an American he seems to be scared to fight Manny...I thought U.S. is land of the free and the braves...come on Floyd stand up with the national anthem...
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 10:58:06 PM
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donputo69 @ Frank Z:
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lmfao.....holla back!!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:00:36 PM
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bagdok:
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...isn't this scarecrow a professional boxer - why would they asked an amateur organization to perform the tests...plain stupid, nothing but harassment!!! neither are they above the NSAC that regulates the combat sport... and this WADAP person is discrediting the professional sport's practice of drug testing - that's why he is kept in the amateur side of the business, possibly that's what he is all about... besides like scareweather he is a BADAP too... LOL
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:02:12 PM
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bagdok:
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...isn't this scarecrow a professional boxer - why would they asked an amateur organization to perform the tests...plain stupid, nothing but harassment!!! neither are they above the NSAC that regulates the combat sport... and this WADAP person is discrediting the professional sport's practice of drug testing - that's why he is kept in the amateur side of the business, possibly that's what he is all about... besides like scareweather he is a BADAP too... LOL
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:03:41 PM
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SALT lover:
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Oh, my bad. I made a mistake. It seems Tim Bradley doesn't care about the obsolete NSAC's testin'. All right, if Pacquiao still refuses for the ONLY demand from the negotiations, then we'll see Bradley fightin' Pacquiao at 140lbs, possibly..............there, had admitted my mistake like a MAN does when he's wrong. Somethin' a lot of people here have to learn, though that's almost impossible.....
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:05:02 PM
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SALT lover:
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*CORRECTION: All right, if Pacquiao still refuses for the ONLY demand from the Mayweather Team in the negotiations
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:06:07 PM
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ver videz:
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" I don't see what the big deal is. Manny Pacquiao doesn't have a history of taking illegal substances. That's what the commissions are here for". WOW! These are the words of a real fighter in the person of Bradley. I love this guy, a real fighter. Mayweather??? No balls at all, a coward inspite his excellent skills. Mayweather has no right to live in the land of the brave. He should be ashamed calling himself an American. Bradley is the true American.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:07:00 PM
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walter:
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Hey david avila, manny did not refuse the olympic style drug testing! He just doesn't want blood drawn from him when its days before the fight or worst, on the night before the fight! And the choice of the USADA by the mayweathers is suspicious! There is something fishy here. I believe they have already a deal with the mayweathers on what to do in case manny agrees to have his blood taken by them!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:11:26 PM
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Fe'Roz @ Salt:
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Merry Christmas, my good man.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:14:12 PM
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SALT lover@Fe'ROZ:
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Hehehehehehe, Happy times to you too, dude! Have a pleasant weekend.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:16:40 PM
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Wtf:
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Pacquiao is not against the bloodtest, he is against the method and agency (tied with Golden Boy Promotions) that mayweather is insisting. He already agreed to the test though it is above and over what the sport's governing bodies require. Tests a day after the fight is more than enough to see if he's on roids but floyd doesn't care about that really. The day floyd be concerned about fairness is the day Arum promotes UFC for girls.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:20:59 PM
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chip:
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SINCE HIS LOSS TO ERIC MORALES, concerns of blood drawing days before the fight, and not of needles.
pacman's camp was late to re-apply his boxing license then, so he was blood drawn just days before the fight. he said he felt sluggish going on fight day.
anyway, the mayweathers knew this and.. you know the rest.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:22:54 PM
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newyorker:
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I would pay to see this fight. Should be action packed!!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:23:07 PM
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BOLLADING:
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you have to give respect to bradley,he really is a fearless warrior.It will be more exciting fight than pac-mayweather.forget mayweather that guy is all talk but no balls!
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:30:27 PM
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blue4cor:
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Numerous fighters have already failed in the current customary testing. A proof that it works effectively. So what is the point of saying there is unfairness in the current system if same test will be applied to to both. MANNY DID NOT SAY NO to the drug test issue. He disagrees with the way the Mayweathers & GBP to be the ones dictating it. And ASSUMING THAT BOTH PARTIES FINALLY AGREED and then after fight, BOTH FIGHTERS FAINTED, GRASPED FOR BREATH, BLOOD PRESSURE DROPPED and SOMETHING WENT WRONG as a result of this untested test. Who will be answerable?......... Hi, Tim Bradley, hang in there bro. Boxing needs COURAGEOUS MEN like you. May not be a fight yet with Manny but who knows, who can say?
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:44:30 PM
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BigThud:
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Like someone said in the boxingscene_com. Fight Bradley and agreed on additional testing just to piss off Fraud Mayweather.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:47:46 PM
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Rey:
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pacquiao should fight timothy bradley and leave mayweather behind; you can not force somebody who does not really want to fight. Why change the rules on drug-testing only now? Is it because they could not believe that a small man like pacquiao could beat (and beat up) bigger men like dela Hoya, Hatton and Cotto? They better believe it man because History is staring them at the face. Testament to Pacman's achievement are the Mayweather Camp themselves. They could not let go of the belief that pacquiao has been into drugs even if they could not prove it. And they spread it like is proven beyond reasonable doubt. Will somebody them that it is just ok to lose and should try to cope up with it just like Hatton did? that it is ok to cry because we are only humans? that to kill themselves because of losing is the most shameful thing that they will ever do?
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:48:16 PM
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BraveboxersFAN:
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Tim Bradley is a much more reasonable than Mayweather.
It will be a good fight . He deserves a match with Pac Man.
This will be a battle of two of the BRAVES .
Lets Get it ON.
Forget Mayweather . He has no interest in fighting Pac Man.
His excuses are just his way of saying he will not do it with Little Filipino. He knows Manny will put him to rest for the rest of his
life.
Good for him he is saved now from Manny's annihalation.
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:50:08 PM
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rovin14:
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mayweather sr and jr are both corward, like father like son.They know manny will knock him, so quick rather than lose with lots of false alibi.shame with the mayweather. buraot
Thursday Dec 24, 2009 11:57:45 PM
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Isaiah:
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Timothy Bradley has my respect! It isn't about keeping your "0" by picking on a guy 2 weight classes lighter then you or coming up with new rules to "ACT" like you want to fight the best. Bradley is a warrior for sure and if the big fight falls through, Manny Pacquiao is more then welcome to come down and defend the real belt against the best at 140.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:07:27 AM
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jigzaw88:
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Manny Pacquiao DID NOT TOTALLY SAY NO TO BLOOD TESTING. He just wanted the final blood testing procedure (as it will involve a series of blood testing during the training period until fight day) to be done right after the fight not hours leading to the fight.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:26:17 AM
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shinra_tensei:
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I'd love to see a Pacquiao-Bradley fight, that'd be an awesome fight! Also my 2 cents on the drug-testing controversy: I applaud what Bob Arum is doing for Pacquaio. I know that the Pacman would give in to the olympic-style drug testing just so the fight with Mayweather would push through. But I can see that Bob is protecting Manny and he doesn't want Manny to be harassed by the other camp. His requirements are reasonable, 1 test after the kick-off, the other test no less than 30 days before the fight and the last test after the fight. That's pretty reasonable and non-intrusive. I just don't see the point why Mayweather won't accept this, since I believe there won't be any difference for a drug-test to happen before of after the fight. The result of the blood test would still come a few days after it being taken, and if it is before, the fight would still push through and both camps won't wait for the test result to come in and postpone the fight. And one more thing, I can see why Arum is adamant of his stand... If the Mayweather fight won't happen, Pacquiao can sue their asses (esp. Mayweather Snr's) for slander and defamation from this snaffu and penalize them for the supposed earnings he might not get due to this.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:33:28 AM
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butch:
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If Floyd should insist his Olympic Style Test, then he should be doing it on 2012, this is not the Olympics, this is professional prizefighting which has a commission that is competent to deal with the necessary drug testing! Better Floyd agree to the compromise that Arum had offered and maybe can have some adjustments as long as they will not pursue the use of USADA which I heard, has an affiliated with GBP, a good suggestion I have read is a randomness within a limited time up to a week before fight night, think it will be best aside from their daily urine monitoring! If Floyd will not agree... then you cannot push a guy who is scared and not willing to fight! Tim, it is your chance to prove you are one of the best... Pacquiao-Bradley, March 13, 2010, MGM Grand 147 WBO Welterweight Championship!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:36:39 AM
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KuPal:
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Pacquiao vs Bradley anyday. Two guys going at it instead of one guy chasing and the other on his bicycle all night
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:58:43 AM
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Radam G - don't believe the Desert Storm hype:
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We will all see. TB is very green. Easy to hit and doesn't take a good punch. Kendall Holt demonstrated that. TB will not rise and recover from a Pacpunch. PacMan is not the weaken 125 pounder who Juan Manuel Marquez was able to get up and continue after three knockdowns. I like TB a lot. For his sake, I hope that he doesn't get rushed to getting destroyed, because PacMan will surely do him in. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:02:24 AM
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shinra_tensei:
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I'd love to see a Pacquiao-Bradley fight, that'd be an awesome fight! Also my 2 cents on the drug-testing controversy: I applaud what Bob Arum is doing for Pacquaio. I know that the Pacman would give in to the olympic-style drug testing just so the fight with Mayweather would push through. But I can see that Bob is protecting Manny and he doesn't want Manny to be harassed by the other camp. His requirements are reasonable, 1 test after the kick-off, the other test no less than 30 days before the fight and the last test after the fight. That's pretty reasonable and non-intrusive. I just don't see the point why Mayweather won't accept this, since I believe there won't be any difference for a drug-test to happen before of after the fight. The result of the blood test would still come a few days after it being taken, and if it is before, the fight would still push through and both camps won't wait for the test result to come in and postpone the fight. And one more thing, I can see why Arum is adamant of his stand... If the Mayweather fight won't happen, Pacquiao can sue their asses (esp. Mayweather Snr's) for slander and defamation from this snaffu and penalize them for the supposed earnings he might not get due to this.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:03:40 AM
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in touch:
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Timothy Bradley has guts and he is a good boxer. Let's move past the mayweather's cowardice and see some credible fighter risking his all against pacman.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:06:56 AM
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Wapakman:
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I prefer PAC vs. Bradley anytime in place of Malagnaggi. Although I think neither won will have the chin to muster and take the destructive left hand of Manny. At least Malagnaggi will evade it longer than Bradley by running and boxing. Whereas Bradley will try to duke it out with Manny and this will be his downfall like the other guys tried to do.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:10:00 AM
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Michael:
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From this date to about 2nd week of January, all news and blah-blahs are all fight hype. I have no doubts in my mind the Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao was already inked. All it is needed now is keep the fans drooling, kneeling down, begging to make the fight to come into fruition.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:14:29 AM
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Jay Ari Yin:
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I would like Bradley to be the opponent of Pacquiao on March 13, 2010 if the Mayweather deal will break.
And just to spite the Mayweathers and USADA, the Pacquiao camp will stipulate random blood, urine and hair drug testing of both fighters to be administered by other refutable U.S. drug testing institutions.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:17:58 AM
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Abenir:
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if it is indeed TRUE... then, hopefully it will be good for boxing. Manny Pacquiao should have already immediately DUMP the braggart and loudmouthed Floyd Mayweather, Jr. for the reason that this guy is a COWARD and use his NASTINESS for him to Cherry picked his opponent. For me though, I feel that Pacquiao should fight instead Yuri Foreman, but still Bradley is still okay.
Manny Pacquiao should immediately undergo the traditional drug testing as conducted by the Nevada State Athletic Commissions, and after the clear-result, Manny should immediately SUE Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Floyd Mayweather, Sr., Roger Mayweather, Richard Schaefer, & Oscar "the pretender" dela Hoya for at least $25-Million for each of these vengeful boxing pretenders.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:42:40 AM
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Anon:
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Yohoo. I would rather see this fight than Floyd. I think it will be a lot more exciting. I want to see how Pac will deal with speed + constant punching. Of course, Bradley can be in a dangerous position too.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:53:53 AM
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reglyn:
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floyd mayweather gained his 40-0 record with the NSAC's testiing procedures,same as what manny paquaio's did,until they both became the no.1 p4p....... so,what's the problem of floyd with the NSAC?....it shows floyd has no respect to the NSAC and to the people who govern with it.......
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:18:20 AM
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Prime1:
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Forget Floyd Jr. he has his tail tucked between his legs.
This is the reason why he retired early...he is deathly afraid of losing his 0. Only reason why he came back was because the taxman was on his heels. He would rather pickup some loose change against the likes of Mathew Haton and showing off his twinkle toes on dancing with the stars.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:22:04 AM
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Real Talk:
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Nucca PLZ!!!!! LMAO !!! OH really.......from 40 mill to half of 4. Cut the jokes. I'm not even wasting a sec. reading this article. Plus Bradley will probably woop Pacquiao's @$$. Don't sleep on shawdy. He's got all the tools. Reminds of May, but evidently more hungry and with more balls. I'm going on the record saying .....AINT NO WAY IN HELL TEAM PAC TAKES THIS FIGHT. That's the last thing they want to do. And now that I think about it....? The will be taking the same amount of blood from Floyd that they take from Pac. So what's the problem? SOHK said years ago that Manny was on roids so these accusations are not new. What's the big deal about taking one b4 the fight an one after? Hummmm?
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:31:48 AM
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critic:
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at least this guy has sense...
“I don’t see what the big deal is. Manny Pacquiao doesn’t have a history of taking illegal substances,” said Bradley. “That’s what the commissions are here for.”floyd and golden boy can create there own commission....
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:38:32 AM
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Jesse S:
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Play by the rules that's the name of the game. Olympic style testing is not in the rules. Why invent a new rule just for Mayweather? Who is he? Is he the boxing commission? He is supposed to be a fighter. Just show up and fight. Tim Bradley is a good fighter but we want Mayweather's ass. Is he afraid Manny will kick his butt off?
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:27:13 AM
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Obviously Real Talk doesn't know much about the fight game to say what's the big deal about blood tests being done right before a fight. It takes away strength. Who cares that mayweather's going to be getting the same test. Pacquiao relies on his strength to fight. He fights all out, not like the way mayweather does. Floyd just picks shots. He can give a pint of blood and fight the way he does. The way Pacquiao fights, it's all out. He needs every ounce of strength. And why is a man being subjected to all these blood tests when no one in this sport has had them done? Because he's so great and dominating the sport? Maybe the same should have been done for Leonard when he beat Duran in the rematch, then after he beat Hearns. Why not then? Why against an asian fighter who's whoopin ass? Because a cowardly fighter and his uneducated father spoke up in the media? Do you have any idea how much bs has come out of that father of his in the last year alone? He's said one stupid thing after another ever since the hatton fight. Even though the fight game is not for scholars, there's no room for uneducated men who border on moronic behavior, who also have a history of drugs themselves.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:28:26 AM
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Obviously Real Talk doesn't know much about the fight game to say what's the big deal about blood tests being done right before a fight. It takes away strength. Who cares that mayweather's going to be getting the same test. Pacquiao relies on his strength to fight. He fights all out, not like the way mayweather does. Floyd just picks shots. He can give a pint of blood and fight the way he does. The way Pacquiao fights, it's all out. He needs every ounce of strength. And why is a man being subjected to all these blood tests when no one in this sport has had them done? Because he's so great and dominating the sport? Maybe the same should have been done for Leonard when he beat Duran in the rematch, then after he beat Hearns. Why not then? Why against an asian fighter who's whoopin ass? Because a cowardly fighter and his uneducated father spoke up in the media? Do you have any idea how much bs has come out of that father of his in the last year alone? He's said one uneducated thing after another ever since the hatton fight. Even though the fight game is not for scholars, there's no room for uneducated men who border on moronic behavior, who also have a history of drugs themselves.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:29:36 AM
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Dave McGee:
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Bradley vs Pacquiao is 10X exciting than Pacquiao-Malignaggi...
Pacquiao - very good boxer and fighter
Bradley - very good boxer and fighter
Malignaggi- good boxer
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:51:52 AM
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PRIZEFIGHT:
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Pacquiao vs Bradley!!!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 04:38:10 AM
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serv:
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I love this guy. He got skills, speed, guts and style that is love by fans. I think he will give Pac a good fight. Lets all forget about Mayweather. He insults boxing fans with his antics. My advice to Floyd, if you want to fight, just sign the damn contract, if you don't then dont and retire. Boxing is better off without your insults and trash talking.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 04:56:20 AM
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Chuck Norris:
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I made sure SOHK would no longer exist once I heard about his talking about Manny Pacquiao like that. I sent him to my vacation house on the sun. That's some REAL TALK right there. I rule the internet under a Chucktatorship. Whachugonnado? All it takes is one roundhouse kick to the face.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 05:35:57 AM
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Jerwin Escobedo:
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You guys although its only my assumption sort of opinion. I think people like Mayweather try to cover the real issue on this fight. What I thought that scares Mayweather team is not on Pacquiao steroids (doubtful thou!) but actually the incapability of Mayweather to reach the 147lb weight limit that would make him pay 10million bucks for every kg gain. Mayweather simply could not be able to get that catch weight. So why go the deal then, isnt? Those accusations are purely excuses, rather than facts...
Friday Dec 25, 2009 05:43:04 AM
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Floyd the biatch:
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Bradley has my respect. BUt he will surely kiss the canvass within R3. no way he can even beat Cotto much more the Pac. Too green for a PAC. Its like freshman vs a doctorate student but if he really wants it... Then it will be more fun than a running mayweather. Mayweather is a chicken who likes chicken run.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 06:40:43 AM
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uruk-hai:
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If more boxers were as dignified as Bradley then boxing would be in better shape. As it is fools fall for fool's gold like Mayweather. Btw Mr, Avila,,,, Have u already thought of the answer as to WHY AMERICAN BOXING SPOIL MAYWEATHER???
Friday Dec 25, 2009 06:59:32 AM
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Now Pacquiao-Bradley WILL be a fight! Despite the signs that Arum, with the help of the NSAC will revive the dead-in-the-water bout with Mayweather, I say stop it Bob and get Timmy Bradley on the line. Since Pac will be suing Richie Rich Schaefer and the Mayweathers, he'll probably go after that Malignaggi (in the courtroom) as well. Bradley might be a little raw but he's all power, courage and title-hungry. HBO doesn't want Malignaggi saying he's not a good crowd-drawer. Sorry Paulie. And if you keep insisting Pac's ON TO SOMETHING, you might end up in the slammer with the Mayweathers, now think about it!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 07:44:24 AM
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SALT lover@Real Talk:
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Whoof! Great points man! Very good analysis.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 07:50:19 AM
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Mullen:
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Manny, would take Bradley a-part. Radam G, cracks me up..he should be voted the funniest dude online... I will try to be on more until jan 1st, 2010 I will be offline for one year or petsonal reasons. Peace..
Friday Dec 25, 2009 08:27:33 AM
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Mullen:
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For personal reasons. Merry Christmas to all. Peace.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 08:29:19 AM
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FightLover:
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Now this is a fighter!!! I love this Bradley guy! Let Pacquiao fight him!!! This my fight friends is a guy who loves to fight the best! My kind of fighter!! Yeah!! Merry Christmas!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 08:50:54 AM
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THIS JUST IN:
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Pacquiao is now planning to sue Mayweather et al. Pacman's had enough of Money May's crap about PEDs, apparently. To quote Manny from a report on Gmanews.tv:
“I have no idea what steroids look like and my fear in God has kept me safe and victorious through all these years."
“Now, I say to Floyd Mayweather Jr., don’t be a coward and face me in the ring, mano-a-mano and shut your big, pretty mouth, so we can show the world who is the true king of the ring."
Be afraid Floyd. Merry Christmas.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 09:19:08 AM
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Fortunately pacman is clean, in fact his camp will preparing to sue the golden boy promotion. The problem is why the mayweather camp who make the procedure for the drug testing. Pacman want this fight not because of money but becauce to the people who love boxing. The whole world wants this fight to be happen, to prove who is the best p4p fighter.
Bradley vs pacman is 4 is to 1. there is no reason why you buy a p/view. the fight is not interested at all. This fight good for 2 rnds.
Malignaggi ( 25 -2 ( 3 KO ) 5 is to 1. This fight good for 1 round . If you buy a p/view you can't even finish to drink one bottle of beer.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 09:23:30 AM
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otilio :
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Rather see Bradley then Mayweather fight the Pac man, It would be a battle to the finish, With Mayweather it may be a see if you can catch me for 12 rounds boreing fight.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 10:22:59 AM
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Ron P:
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Lets respect Bradley. He has guts and balls. Just praise for you. Please do your best so my ticket money will be worth it.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 10:34:21 AM
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Outsider:
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I just wanna say i love reading the articles and discussions here. Merry Christmas Boxing Fans.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:15:17 AM
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rolly:
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Scrap Pacquiao-Mayweather fight. Mayweather's a coward. Let's get the ball rolling for a Pacquaio-Bradley fight.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:15:56 AM
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Radam G - I'm thankful not to suffer from hype blindness -- ___ _____:
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I cracked everybody up when I said that Manny would take Dela Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto apart. I cracked everybody up when I said years ago that Buster Mathis would take Mike Tyson apart, I cracked a lot up people up when I said that Kelly Pavlik would take Jermaine Taylor apart. I cracked up people when I said in fight I that Ouintana would beat Paul "Slappy, punching-missing" Williams. I cracked up a lot of people when I said that Shane Mosley was knocking out Tony Margarito. I love cracking up people. Go ahead and vote me as the funniest dude online, because if Tim "Desert Storm" fights Manny "PacMan" Pacquiao, PacMan will destroy the Green Storm -- I mean -- Desert Storm in two rounds if the green fighter fights. If the green fighter doesn't, he will last nine rounds or he may just go the distant getting shutout. Apparently somebody cannot see. They apparent only know how to look. TB has no business in the ring with PacMan or Money May. TB will even lose to Cotto, Marquez and Ricky Hatton. The kid is going to be good if he is move correctly. Put him in there early, and he will be destroyed. I'm reminded of how good readers were talking about Lamont Peterson to be and how he was allegedly whupping up on Money May in the gym. What a pipe dream of malarkey. The hurt bitnezz is not the Big Screen Business. In that squared jungle is hard reality, not a Rocky movie. Bradley would get his azz handed to him on a platter by the top guns. Bradley would bearly get by girlie Paulie Malicrappy. And Amir "The Great" Khan would blow the Desert Storm away. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:45:00 AM
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Radam G -- __ ____ __:
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*Buster Douglas, not Buster Mathis (and Tyson did beat Buster Mathis Jr)...
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:47:49 AM
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Marty:
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Well, it's past Thursday and Pacquaio hasn't agreed to Mayweather's demands on testing. According to Bob Arum the fight will be offS! Please!!! This is the same BS promoter who said at least twice that he'd quit after so-called bad decisions against his fighter. This is the same phony who said " I lied yesterday,today I'm telling the truth." Don't believe anything this fraud tells you! As long as there's a buck to be made, Arum will say anything! The fight will go on. Take that to the bank!!!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:48:31 AM
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Radam G -- ____ _____:
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Oh, yea! Changer of my quotes, "take Bradley apart," was never posted by me. PacMan would bash, thrash and mash him up. Bradley would not last long enough and is not good enough for PacMan to waste time taking him apart. "Slam, bam, thank you, maam, I don't give a damn" is all that Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, Maragarito, Hatton and even butt-sorry Long Paul Sally would have to do to the notorious green fighter. One again, that sucka will be in that squared jungle, not in a movie on the Big Screen. He will not be turning into a greed-arse Hulk, but a pathetic lost soul in da jungle of legal mayhem and whup-a$$. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:12:09 PM
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RG - doin' da clean up - __:
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i musta fo'got! Let me add Shane Mosley and Andre Berto to that list. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:14:24 PM
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Cad eh:
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Bradley the last time I checked you were way behind in the counting, now you're in 2nd place. I voted for P Malignaggi bcoz I want him be KO'ed by Pacquiao since he insisted that Pacquiao is on PEDs. To increase your chance to fight Pacquiao, ASAP you have to convince Gary Shaw your promoter to deny USADA drug testing and respect NSAC integrity and have it piblished on the web.
Then I can change my vote for you as I think you're worthy of an opponent for Pacquiao and has PPV value.
Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
Yuri Foreman 42% (815 votes)
Timothy Bradley 17% (332 votes)
Joshua Clottey 1% (22 votes)
Paul Williams 7% (139 votes)
Antonio Margarito 5% (101 votes)
Paulie Malignaggi 5% (94 votes)
Devon Alexander 1% (18 votes)
Shane Mosley 21% (405 votes)
Andre Berto 1% (28 votes)
Total Votes: 1,954
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Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:30:17 PM
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pacman fan:
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kudos Tim...you deserve it....you're the best qualified man for the job
Friday Dec 25, 2009 12:52:56 PM
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Real Talk:
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Ay Radam. Either you're real emotional or real drunk! The boy Bradley does everything good an unless he's ducked(which he's been) to the point nobody fights him..he will be great. You now what Bradley's got that all those cats you named don't have? SPEED...blinding speed and can box his ass off. Makes great adjustments too. I'd pick him against Hatton...plz, Canvas kisser...too slow, Paulie gets dogged, Amir Khan, toss up and depending on can he take a welters punch will tell me which way to go with. I'd pick Desert Storm over Berto. This kid is special and hungry. I'd love to see him fight Pac. Pac may Knock him out but I don't know about outboxing him. He won't have to drain down to fight Pac. Dueces
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:04:29 PM
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Radam G -- is long-time member in da pain game:
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No! I'm clear! Real Talk! Desert Storm is GREEN! I know how people missread flash, dash and even cash in boxing. I was in this game before I remembered anything else. My first memory is not being in the arms of my mother, but sitting on the lap of Muhammad Ali. He was saying that he was the baddest thing on two feet, then I pissed on his lap. Everybody -- the whole Wide-World of Sports television crew -- laughed. Goat Ali played it off and gave me back to my mother, while making his famous fist and gritting his teeth. He then teased a family member of mine who was a world junior featherweight that he was going whup my butt if I ever grow into a heavyweight. I didn't -- not even close. Any way, enough of the side story. Just go and ask Ham Johnson and Old man Jacob or any of the seasoned trainers in your D.C. area. Man, Tim "Desert Storm" Bradley is still a very good amateur. I'm remind of Mark Breland and Pete Sewell (name may be misspelled). Their fans thought that they could step up against a killer like Magic Man Marlon Starling and Milton McCrory. Those fools got destroyed and were ruined from there on out. TB will is above a bum fighter. He should have taken that job as sparring partner that PacMan was going to give him. Now TB is very delusional and blinded to his greatest enemy -- his mindset of grandiosity. Looking at is not seeing in that squared jungle. Again I know about eight fighters in lightwelter and welter who will destroy TB -- mess up his career. "It don't make no sense" -- the famous words of old man Davey Jacob, the maker of the P4P GOAT Sugar Ray Leonard, and Ham Johnson -- the pops of future HOFer Mark "Super Too Sharp" Johnson. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 01:56:48 PM
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If this fight were to happen instead, then that would be the best christmas gift I could receive. Pacquiao/Bradley, two of my favourite fighters up against eachother, no BS. Just an action fight.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:08:46 PM
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The coward Mayweather does not want to fight. Bradley is a fast action fighter but his defense is not so great. Bradley will get Knocked out cold by Pacman. But Bradley is a fighter and has the balls to risk getting badly hurt, not like the coward Mayweather. Pacman will get almost the same amount of pay when he fights anybody other than Mayweather, guaranteed purse plus a very large piece of the split. Every Pacman fight will also be very entertaining for the fans, it will be an action showcase of speed, power and skill. And Pacman goes in to finish the opponent on cue from Roach. Pacman does not need Mayweather. Boxing does not need Mayweather's drama. Mayweather is already a has-been, if Mayweather does not fight Pacman he will keep his 0 but become an 0 himself. Mayweather will end up being remembered as a very good lightweight, he is not that impressive.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:11:36 PM
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The BS is over. Manny will file suit for libel and slander. And he has Officially and Personally denied all charges....and better yet....called Floyd out !! Read his words online. And praise the Lord.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:12:04 PM
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Evidently the fight is off, which I predicted right from the get-go (I need to go through some of the old Pacquiao-Cotto articles for my exact quotes). Boxing again misses a golden opportunity and shoots itself in the foot. This backfired big-time on Floyd, because as Fe'Roz said, he's being sued. The funny thing is that if you read between the lines, Floyd's PED accusation against Manny is actually a great compliment to PacMan. In effect, he's saying you've looked SO good that you MUST be on the juice! It's comical, provided you read deeply between the lines. But I believed all along (and no disrespect to Salt, who has made the case for Floyd very well) that Mayweather would never get in the ring with Manny, irrespective of the money. I don't think Floyd would fight him for a guaranteed $100,000,000. Mayweather has not fought a legitimate, dangerous guy in YEARS and he certainly isn't going to start now (JMM was undersized/handpicked; Hatton's nothing at 147; Oscar was a top-15 guy when they fought; his best welterweight win is Baldomir, at best a rugged journeyman; since Castillo, he's done nothing exceptional). Floyd's principal trait is that he's risk-averse, and he again reinforced and validated that trait by this entire episode. Why didn't he demand that JMM be tested Olympic-style??
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:38:50 PM
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riverside:
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awesome, bradley vs pacman, you've got to love bradley, just like most on here love cotto, they both fight for the fans, bradley has fought all the top competition in the lbs140 division, without complaining about nickles and dimes, and i've said it before boxers like him there time will come, if you keep winning and keeping fans happy, big time pay days will come, bradley will give pacman a tough fight, i like pacman how can anybody not like him, but some facman fanatics are quick to bad mouth ANY opponent pacman fights, i've said it before bradley is the real deal, he is old school.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 02:45:50 PM
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straighright:
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floyd should stick to fighting featherweights (when he weighs in at 150). keep the illusion going.... he's more magician than fighter.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:10:38 PM
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Radam G -- just wait & c, don't look -- it will b n d boxing record book:
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Double talkers and $hit throwers are so many fans. They are not the ones in that squared jungle. They are the ones who are looking, never knowing or seeing. Lookers have had umpteens predictions that went bunkered. Seers have had umptenns predictions and only about five percent of them went bunkered. Go to the archives and see -- not look -- who is the greatest at picking the win and how. Talk in the moment is tough talk, but when the talkers has to go to see the results, he hollers, "That's in da past. Tim Bradley is no Jemaine Taylor. What about when you picked Arreola to beat the pee pee doctor. You won't eat crow when you lose (less than five percent of the time)." Every single expert with an iota of a brain sees the umpteen flaws and greenness in Tim Bradley. The great gurus -- off the record -- will say that Team Bradley should be banned for throwing this kid to the wolves. Manny Steward, Ronny Shields, Freddie Roach, Nacho Beristein, Genie Nazim Richardson, Jesse Reid, Pops Trinidad, Pops Joy Mayweather, Lou Duva and some other top active trainers will all cite the demise and permanent damage that will be done to The "Desert Storm." This is the hurt bitnezz, no playstation or playground bull$hit. People blinded by their beliefs of xenophobia oughta quit. Nobody and dey mommas are name calling TB because he is a piece of meat that may be coming up for a bar-b-cuing by PacMan. All those trainers that I named above have fighters who they want to fight PacMan. They are not "facman (sic) fanatics...quick to bad mouth ANY opponent pacman fights." Some other fighters who will beat this GREEN KID are Kermit Cintron, Collazo, Sugar Shane Mosley, ex-lightweight champion Diaz of Chicago and, as I said, a lot guns I cannot think of right now. Thank Heaven that that kid doesn't listen to fanfaronades in this Universe, or he will be in deep, GREEN kim chee. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:59:52 PM
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Radam G -- dis is d season of joy & 2 b jolly:
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And so I will greet all: Maligayan Pasko, Milad Majid, Chuc Mung Glang Sinh, Eid Mubark, Feliz Navidad, Naya saai Mubarak Ho, Selamat Hari Natal, Gun Tso Sun Tan'Gung Haw, Cristmas-e-shoma mubarak bashad, Froochliche Weihnachten, Mele Kalikimaka, Mo'adim Lesimkha, Baradin ki shubh kamnaaye, Nollaig Shona, Dhutt Shinnen omedeto, Sung Tan Chuk Ha, Merry Keshmish and Merry Christmas. Holla!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 04:11:25 PM
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ton:
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It seems to me that Olympic style drug testing rather than other traditional testing is the only way to go. Let all applicants for any workplace undergo Olympic Style Drug Testing. It will ensure a real drug-free workplace.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 06:45:11 PM
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Smiley C:
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Wrong! The Olympic style drug testing cannot ensure a drug-free workplace. Marion Jones, to name one, was only caught because of a feeling of guilt. The best style is in the pros. Nobody has been able to beat that system. Not in football, baseball, track or in boxing. All cheaters have been caught with the pro style. Confidential information was leaked out about the results after deals with the violators. Pro-style is better than Olympic fo' sure.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 07:19:47 PM
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SALT lover@Smiley C:
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Well dude, again I say, the same could be said about Shane Mosley. He WAS usin' steroids, and he wasn't caught by the pro system. And about comparin' Olympic and pro testin', first of all remember, don't get easily influenced by the word 'Olympic'. That doesn't mean they are amateurs (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That word, I believe, takes away a lot of respect) It's done by the best dopin' system in the World, the United States Anti-Doping Agency. I could be wrong though, cuz I ain't no expert, but to me, from the little I've read, and know about science, it makes much more sense to me analyzing blood, than analyzing urine. A whole lots of information are flowing in blood, and they are used in lots of areas of investigations. I could be wrong, but that's what I would be trustin' more..............................And by the way, be careful about baseball (That's my second favorite sport). The majority of the baseball cases were not cuz of tests, but confessions.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 07:26:41 PM
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Smiley C:
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Shane Mosley was caught by the pro system and said that he didn't know. He said that he thought it was cream and vitamins. The pro system caught him ASAP and he claimed not to know ASAP and stopped the usage. That system works fo' sure!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 08:18:51 PM
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SALT lover@Smiley C:
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No he wasn't, dude. And much less "ASAP". They caught Mosley years after the De la Hoya fight, which was where he admitted takin' the cream, cuz his name appeared in an investigation of the BALCO drugs; they were not investigatin' him, but they were investigatin' the industry. That's how they caught him; he wasn't caught by no tests. If he was caught by pro system testings, he would've made headlines at the time he beat De la Hoya, and the Nevada State Athletic Commission would've said it to the press, just like they did with Vargas, and they didn't. Please tell things how they are.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 08:27:08 PM
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fcuk:
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...Pacquiao’s refusal to agree to Olympic style drug testing rather than the traditional ...
hey, looks like u dont know what ur talking man,...Pacquiao actually doesnt fully refused the drugtesting proposed by the mayweather camp, he just want it on an occasion that will not aect his performance, taking a blood after the fight is just the same as taking blood test beore the fight, it will just give the same result...and thats wat pacquiao camp want, and the maywaethers dont like it, just to have areason to not to fight
Friday Dec 25, 2009 09:55:05 PM
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Smiley C:
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They caught him immediately and reported it years later because of the investigation. He kept quiet until the media releases about BALCO. There is corruption everywhere. The California and Nevada boxing commissions did move on him because of legality. He even sued BALCO for claiming that he knew that they were give him steriods. And he won fo' sure!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 10:59:43 PM
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SALT lover@Smiley C:
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Exactly, years later cuz of an INVESTIGATION, but not cuz of those professional tests. Yeah, there's corruption, and all the suin' and stuff is True. But none of that started by tests results, like it should've. Mosley was able to cheat in those tests.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:26:00 PM
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Smiley C:
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Merry Christmas to all. I think that this whole thing is bunk fo' sure!
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:34:14 PM
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Isaiah:
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I love this site and I get to throw in the last MERRY CHRISTMAS CHARLIE BROWN!!! CHRISTmas is about to turn into midnight and there goes another holiday down the drain. Hope everyone had a good one.
Friday Dec 25, 2009 11:56:43 PM
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Kang Kong Kernitz:
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Don't say "I can compete with these guys", you should say "I can beat these guys".
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 12:46:13 AM
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SALT lover@Isaiah:
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This site is OK, but nothin' to love about. The restrictions here are way too childish, and the editor keeps actin' like a kindergarden teacher sayin' no to lame things even 12 year olds to everyday. The only good change they made was puttin' the e-mail to autoapprove the comments so we won't have to wait hours until they appear like months ago. And about people's knowledge in boxin' here, .....................I don't even wanna talk about; I don't want the editors puttin' me in the corner of the classroom XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Happy vacations to you too, dude! Much respect, man!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 01:00:37 AM
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*12 year olds DO everyday......
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 01:01:16 AM
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Real Talk stuffed off the Christmas food:
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@ Radam G, I don't dispute your credentials nor your knowledge of the Sweet Science. I meditated on the prospects of a potential match between the two an I have to agree with you that Pac would more than likely ruin and do permanent damage to Bradley ala Trinidad vs. Vargas. I'm really starting to think nobody can beat Pac at 147. Maybe I'm drinking the Cotto Koolaid. I watch that fight almost every day and Pacman seems to be on a level all by himself. I don't think he'd get TB in 2 rds because the Kid can box. I do think the speed, power, sharp shooting accuracy and workrate motor will steamroll TB. I agree with you that he's just not ready yet. Maybe in a year or two, but not now. I'm going to leave the blood test stuff to the people who handle that. The Mayweather camp are either geniuses, working the mindgames, or very nervous. Anybody who acts like they know definately one way or another is Naive to put it nicely, unless you eat, sleep and shadow the guy 24/7. Let's get it on!!! P.S. Radam...you called good money on Peterson, and my gut told me Bradley was too much, but I had to roll with the home squad like you did with Arreola. Respect as allways an looking forward to more knowledgable exchanges. Dueces
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 01:02:31 AM
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PACQUIAO VS BRADLEY!!! NOW THIS IS A REAL FIGHT... FLOYD WILL RUN.. HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO SIGN THE CONTRACT!!!
PACQUIAO VS BRADLEY LETS GET IT ON!!!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 01:24:07 AM
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@radam, a bit sentitive about fanatics it can't be you? arreola lost fair and square never did i bad mouth klisthko, did i mr boxing?collazo, mosley my bud from ted greene little league, or diaz, or cintron, you name will beat the green kid, none fight in his division for you information, write it down, i'm surprise you did not throw in pavlik in the mix which he would also beat desert storm never did i say bradley will beat pacman, but bradley will pacman a good fight, i won't attack you character the way you are trying to do about my knowledge, i do not need your permission to express my oppinion on this forum, you don't own it , i'm not trying to be your friend, but a pure boxing fan, you have name numerous trainer who you say,YOUR OPINION, have said pacman will beat bradley, the story about pacman vs bradley is barely 24 hours old, how do you know that?, i won't attack you personal character which is too easy to do, i have question? pacman is unbeatable, who is the best opponent out in the 140 lbs division?, put you heart to the side and answer with your boxing knowledge?
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 02:12:20 AM
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I hope that the rumors about the Pacman fighting Malignaggi instead is not true. If it is, i would suggest to the promoter to have a makeshift emergency room right at the fight venue because for sure the Pacman will punish Malignaggi for all the unfounded accusation he throws at Manny. This is the only reason why Manny would want to fight the feather-fisted and unexciting Malignaggi. Purse sharing for this fight should be 90-10 in favor of Manny of course of maybe 95-5 would be more reasonable. Malignaggi doesn't deserve bigger purse than what he usually receive on this. He is a mediocre fighter if compared to Manny's caliber.
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 05:35:40 AM
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Matthew:
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It would be an exciting fight, and a great alternative if Mayweather bitches out. Bradley is an all-action fighter, and it would be great for him to get a shot at the linear 140 title against Pacquiao. I don't think he can win, but I think there would definitely be fireworks. Kudos to HBO for making it a viable possibility.
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 09:13:59 AM
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RED:
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Money doesn't motivate Bradley? LOL! Imagine Exxon saying that money doesn't motivate it. "We just love making gasoline". The things fighters say. Then again, the things some fans will buy...
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 09:23:53 AM
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kountedout:
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@riverside, you dont have to attack his character. you know what he is about. there are a few others that have gotten a little sensitive hahaha they claim they are in the know but when you ask them a question they disappear to see if they can google it and then if they dont find it they go off to some other stupid remark and terrible corny rhyme. I think a bradley/pacquiao fight would be good. why dont manny fight paul williams at 147 if the mayweather fight dont happen.that would be a money fight but it would cost manny. williams would straight knock him out!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 10:05:07 AM
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barugo leyte:
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riverside you don't know nothing about boxing or modern communication, It don't take 24 hours or two hours for a vast of amount of people to speak out in boxing business. when mayweather punked out it was already on so many internet sites you can't count them and bradley asked to take mayweather place and paulie maggnali. man you are slow. where you been? any way i agree about bradley. he aint that good yet and aint nobody your friend. pacman will kick bradley butt knock that fool out.
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 10:10:54 AM
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Fe'Roz :
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I commented at the top that Tim Bradley was 'All Balls' and had exactly the attitude that appeals to all fight fans. That did not suggest that he could yet compete with a fight on Manny's grade today. Even Roach has sid (regarding Khan) that it takes years to become a complete fighter. I din't think that descibes TB ... but I am looking forward to watching him grow. For years.
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 11:31:05 AM
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riverside:
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@kountedout, in know what you mean bud, there is nothing wrong with express your opinion on different boxing views, but sometimes people on this site attack a persons character instead of the topic of the article, for example,{ you don't know boxing, you don't have friends, i know boxing i have friends, i was there, ive done that, you where'nt there], but anyways there is not much competition for pacman in the 140 lbs division, more power for him, he can be champion at junior welter weight for ever if he want too, bradley is probably the best boxer you can find in the division, i don't agree he will be damge goods after the fight if he looses,first he will not go toe to toe with pacman, he is slick moves and also he has an experienced corner with the diaz brothers, they will stop the fight if he starts to take a beating, that is my opinion, i'm no expert, as most on this site aren't either, wishing you a belated merry christmas
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 12:46:14 PM
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Jason:
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I don't think there's anyone at 140 that can beat Manny. But for all the talk that Bradley's not ready, I disagree. The guy is 26 years old, he's been fighting professionally for more than 5 years, and he's the champion. If he's not ready now, when will he be, in 5 years?? If it's on the table now, he should go to work like never before and give it his all (and put enough money in the bank for the rest of his life). Pacquiao-Bradley is NOT Roberto Duran-Davey Moore. And it looks like Malignaggi will get the shot at Pacquiao anyway, which I'm not excited about (although PacMan is certainly deserving of this type of non-dangerous fight right now). MY HOPE IS THIS: Pacquiao-Shane Mosley this summer (assuming Mosley beats Berto, which is not a given). Mayweather is NOT the top welterweight in the world, it's Mosley. The most exciting fight at 147 is easily Mosley-Pacquiao. The only exciting aspect of Pacquiao-Mayweather would have been PacMan chasing Floyd all around the ring and the only real question would be can he catch him? That doesn't excite me. Mosley-PacMan would be two guys in the pocket ALL NIGHT. That's a barnburner. And I think Shane would prevail, due to his granite chin. He's the one guy at 147 that I think would beat the great Pacquiao (although I did predict Cotto would win...).
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 01:39:43 PM
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lyd:
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riverside stop crying!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 01:45:43 PM
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@pac man fans:
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Of course you PAC-nuthugger want bradly to fight PAC-cheat cause you know now Manny will start juicing again and with bradly they will not be cheaking for HGH so Pac-cheat can start juicing again and ask bradly to meet him at 135
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 02:00:43 PM
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charlie:
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all philipinos are cheater, wat da big deal with pacquioa on hgh, they either have big mouths or they cheat, dat is they history
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 03:40:04 PM
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d duck:
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its just an olympic drug test (the one alot of the usa's olympians have managed to get out of doing over the years) pac not doing this shows he has somthing to hide .maybe pac wants out of the mayweather deal
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 04:52:34 PM
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MisterLee:
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I bump Smiley C to my top 10 for sure!!! I was hoping for Shane Mosley unification bout at welter, which would made more money, have 3 belts on the line and Ring Magazine Belt, legacy, history, ball out fighter...but if you're preparing for SHane Mosley here's what you have to prepare for: HUGE reach advantage, height advantage, goes hard to the body, has 12 rounds of stamina in your face, speed, power, GREAT granite chin, likes to mix it up, pretty good defense. Mosley WOULD whoop Pacquiao's arse or has the best chance of whooping either Scareweather or Pacquiao, which is why they're avoiding him even though he's the 2nd most lucrative fight for both of them. Sad to hear... but at least Mosley can go for : Williams, Berto, Clottey, Cotto 2, Martinez at jr. middle, bradley at a catchweight. ANYWAY, besides all that Bradley has ALL the skills to neutralize Pacquiao's speed: great lateral movement, good head movement, decent speed, good countering, flurrying and volume style, intelligent and adapts quickly , makes range and distance very well, has great ring generalship. If this were end of 2011 or early 2012 I'd give Bradley a fighting chance. Bradley has ALL the tangibles and intangibles EXCEPT experience. He needs a little more. In a way, I love this fight, but shame on Pacquiao camp for cherry picking another opponent (a great opponent nonetheless) that would give him most of the advantages versus testing himself agst a stylistically tough opponent like Mosley. Yes, pacquiao will prove his greatness no matter who he fights, but SHANE MOSLEY is still the best fight, esp. if he carries two belts for Pacquiao and mayweather, but they scared! If cotto lasts 12 rounds with manny, you best believe Mosley at 147 will give Manny 12 rounds of hell or less! Cheers to Manny! LAST POINT: A fighter should NEVER have to agree to taking conditions that undermind his dignity. The whole drug testing is like Manny requiring Mayweather and his posse to patted down and metal detected before the fight b/c of their history of weaponry and drugs usage. That would be really insulting hinting that he is some kind of thug, and if drug testing is hinting that Manny is a cheater, than no amount of money, even $40 million can replace a fighter's dignity, and we're not talking about starving fighters, we're talkijngj about successful, multi-milliionaire, established fighters. This is all BULLSH*T. I hope the train passes scareweather and that he never gets a big fight with Pacquiao. This guy will come down in history as being the biggest coward... I'm rewatching Cotto Mosley now, and I guess this was in 2007? They said the winner of this welter match up might fight the winner of Mayweather Hatton. Guess what happened? Cotto won, and Mayweather retired! Holler!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 05:01:48 PM
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d duck:
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theres no loss in dignity taking the proper drug test .floyd and manny are the best .this is the fight that has to happen
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 05:20:56 PM
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MisterLee:
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It's just a pat down and a weed check... it's just tap dancing half naked for the audience... it's just doing the worm across the stage at the weigh in to sell tickets... it's just "jump!" when Mayweather says jump, jump enough hoops and Mayweahter will have the fight 70-30, with his choice of ring size, no Reyes gloves, a head gear to protect himself from the drugs, a 10 round fight, his ring entrance 2nd even tho he doesn't carry a belt, a foot massage,Pacquiao having to be on record saying "Floyd is the greatest fighter ever", just 6 words and the fight is on! Scareweather is the term, Timothy Bradley, Andre Ward, 8 x times the man Floyd will ever be, and that's why The public, and even casual fans of Floyd, and even neutral fans have come to the Pacquiao corner or neutral corner, Floyd is a clown. Make him juggle for a fight! Put him at the water tank and throw a ball at the target for' sure!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 05:55:22 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Welcome back Caveman.
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 06:27:52 PM
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Misterlee:
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Haha... still don't got consistent internet. Monday baby. The crazies are taking over! Maybe we should wait 28 days before logging in again... holler! (no offense to the p4p crazies, you know who you are). How is it with you Fe'roz the pharaoh? We should do a 2009 recap at some point... i mean we got cotto clottey, mosley marg and marg beings suspended, ward shutting out opponents (all of them), bradley in some wars, vasquez and marquez are back, floyd fighitng a featherweight (consistent with his own feathers, birds of a feather...),Juanma almost getting KTFO, Ortiz quitting and coming back... it's been quite a year! Also... the Comic relief award I'll give to: 1.) The Roast 2.) Smiley C 3.) AFN (Tonooooyyy!!!) Most poignant in no particular order: 1.) Radam 2.) Fe'roz 3.) F-lo Writa'...I know he's not a reader, but just listing names 4.) Toledo 5.) Dino Da Vinci 6.) Pete Steward 7.) Master Snake 8.) Frank Z 9.) Dr1r142 10.) blue4cor 11.) smiley c 12.) ultimo shogun 13.) yuvie 14.) in touch Aight, Happy New Year, and all the TSSU staff, especially EM! Also! It was quite fun exchanging words with Paulie Malignaggi. Never thought I'd get in a verbal argument with a world class fighter. Holler!
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 06:55:32 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Your idea on a re-cap is a great one. We started here with Manny as the Fighter of the Decade... but it's been mostly downhill from there. Maybe we should start again at the top. In February with Shane's defeat of the then greatly feared Antonio Margarito. Bracket that with Manny and Miguel and it's been one hell of a year. Boxing is back...or should I say front and center.
Saturday Dec 26, 2009 07:25:48 PM
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Tony Mullen:
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Radam G, I meant it outta respect I come on here just to read your stuff. Your picks are dead-on, you know the sport well. And have a great sense of humor.. This is why I'm leaving all boxing boards..evereytime I say something people take it wrong. So long guys. I'll miss this board.
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 12:27:45 AM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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This would be a good fight as well...but Bradley is nowhere near Floyd's talent. Bradley will engage himself into an all out toe to toe battle. He was the aggressor when he fought Holt and he was downed twice I think. Holt caught Bradley coming in and I just don't think he's slick enough like Floyd to pose threat to Manny. Bradley is not as powerful as Cotto so he loses in the exchange category. Bradley is just not ready to be put against Manny at this point. Maybe I give him a year and a half and he's ready.
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 02:53:11 AM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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@MisterLee, great post on third to the last. Mosley is definitely being avoided by both camps. I hope Manny does take on Mosley who is also a top fighter in the division, #1 to be exact. I would like for Pac to take on Paulie so he can shut his mouth up for good. Cintron too if he want some. Fighting Williams would be asking too much but hell, bring em on! Mayweather stalling on Manny just gives us more fights ahead for Pacquiao I guess.
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 03:05:09 AM
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kountedout:
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@Tom Mullen, whether you agree with me or not dont let some little kid make you leave bc he took something out of respect. these guys like fe'roz and lot of others are a bunch of hypocrites! he talks about "It's great to see cooler heads are prevailing here at TSS as out top regulars begin weighing" what a phony and a fabricator, when guys like radam g, can insult and attack anyone who comes here and says idiotic things in every comment he post. all the cooler heads are pacquiao fans. he dont say anything to the lowlife remarks that his partners in crime make. he even curses on here and lost his cool when he got upset bc he is being exposed as a hypocrite! but whats great is he cant explain in a sensible manny why manny will beat floyd. thats very good for your ROTY champ. this site is a lot different from the other sites yes, bc this site showing more true racist then others. its up to you if you decide to leave but believe me they have no knowledge of boxing at all and all they do is go to other sites to try to find some good on manny and some bad on any fighter they dont like. well it manny was such a saint then why dont he take a olympic style drug test, they say he has never shown proof that he has taken steroids. he never showed he was committing affairs either but he did.
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 10:16:15 AM
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kountedout:
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they talk about floyd sr how much he looks like hes on drugs but they dont talk about the biggest crackhead and drug user in boxing is freddie roaches brother pepper roach. He is on crack and every other drug with that one eyed guy shane langford who sleeps in the gym. they have so many of the trainers that train at wildcard on drugs but they dont talk about all of that bc its freddie roach and that's attached to manny pacquiao. i talked to an official last week in vegas and he relayed to me that freddie roach is one of the most corrupt and scandalous ppl in boxing. i dont have to make it up or fib bc i see and hear. i do hate ppl that talk bout boxing like they know it and they dont have a idea of whats going on period. just bc you read about boxing dont mean that you are a professor of the sweet science. the only way you can know boxing is to be involved in boxing to some degree. have you notice once all the speculations about manny and PED's freddie roach and ariza has disappeared and havent said anything. he did the same thing when james toney got busted. why did a million dolllar fight between the 2 biggest names female boxing not take place. christy martin and lucia ryker? it didnt take place bc there was suspicion that lucia was on PED's. at a press conference martin said she would fight lucia anytime, anywhere as long as she is tested. Lucia had always passed the regular blood test that was required by the NSAC and CSAC. Lucia turned around and slugged martin at the press conference. she did it bc she was guilty and about to be exposed. when they signed for the fight lucia comes up with and injury bc the steroids started to destroy her body. you can fabricate all you want but the truth will eventually come out. and the judge will be mannys liver or kidneys malfunctioning. what does manny, lucia, toney, have in common...freddie roach.
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 10:29:23 AM
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kountedout:
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if you dont say anything good bout manny you are a hater! there is a really good article on bragging rights corner and right cross entertainment bout victor conte the guy who created balco and why he said random test is mandatory and thats the only way it works. he also talks about how the regular boxing medical test are worthless if you are trying to find steroids and that is not what they should be looking for its EPO what they should be looking for
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 10:40:10 AM
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AFN bring on Carrot Top:
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Since PBF is in Vegas anyway, I reckon he should fight Carrot Top. I mean there is no way that dude is on steroids. (Never mind HGH, that guy must eat the whole baby!). EL TOONOY
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 11:52:52 AM
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Radam G @ Tommy Mullen:
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Thanks for those nice word. I suggest -- that if you get this -- you come back to TSS. Like in real, you are going to have "people taking" what you "say the wrong way." But that's life. Have tough skin and move on. You can see that even you gave me praises and kudos, a no-count imbecile, who is apparently incompetent along with his other illnesses, thought that you say something adverse. So you see what I mean about life and staying. As this no-count guy who, is the Universe's nutcase, people will mental problems will attack and seek the weaklings to follow them. Just pay the crazies no attention and post what you like. Man, you pretty cool. I read your posts, have respect your opinion and think that you are quite classy. Again, if you read this post of mine -- come on back! Holla!
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 10:49:58 PM
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Radam G @ Tommy Mullen:
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I hope to see you in a year when you come back or whenever. I understood your witty, teasing sarcasm about voting me the funniest dude on the internet, but you apparently did catch on to my reply. I was simply being deadpan comical. Afterall you said that my funniness led to here. I guess sometimes you will miss my intention. Missing that intention is what has made ___case school of hard knocks change his pseudonym and comeback a wilding_____. Holla!
Sunday Dec 27, 2009 11:07:44 PM
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kountedout:
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yeah im going to speak to you Radam G, you jump on ppl who makes comments for no apparent reason. man you are really beneath the earth. i cant say what i really wanna say to you bc they might kick me off. but you should be banned from here bc you are a complete joke of boxing. they might think you are funny but i dont. you are a wannabe fake brutha who claims you run with bruthas. but you say all these corny rhymes and you say racist remarks under your stupid comments. you are so in the know that you know nothing. Tom Mullen is not on here bc of "YOU" not me. WHAT PART OF YOU DO YOU NOT GET! You cross the line an all of your friends and the editors let you get away with it. You go away like a little kid that has been spanked and you know you have done wrong then you come back doing the same ignorant stuff. You are a disturbed little kid. You have no respect for others, only the ones kissing up to you. you can call me whoever or whatever you want but as i said again you can never be us. If the editors asked me to leave I will leave. Im not going to go on a RANT like some other little kids. GROW UP MAN! a friend who respect you is one that will tell you to chill out and not let you do or say such stupid comments whether we are on the internet or in real life. GROW UP MAN!
Monday Dec 28, 2009 10:34:40 AM
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kountedout:
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I apologized for you to tom mullen bc he could be a man with great knowledge that not only i, we all might can learn from his opinions and point of views on subjects. You hate to hear that others know just as much as you or without a doubt MORE! that goes for whoever else that don't like what i wrote.
Monday Dec 28, 2009 10:37:18 AM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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I was thinking the same thing Radam. He sounds familiar.
Monday Dec 28, 2009 12:22:17 PM
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kountedout:
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everybody sounds familiar to you when they dont agree with you. i have no respect for a man who worships another man so you get outta my face.
Monday Dec 28, 2009 01:45:30 PM
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kountedout:
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if you were married you worship manny so much i bet you go out an have affairs too dont cha. im talking straight to you #1worshipper
Monday Dec 28, 2009 01:50:45 PM
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Smiley C:
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Me too, #1 PacFan. That crackpot is school of hard knocks back as no spelling kountedout. He worships crack and meth. All people except blacks look alike and sound alike to him. This dude is loco and funny fo' sure!
Monday Dec 28, 2009 04:10:09 PM
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@SMILEY C:
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Smiley My @ss, Fo Sure, F__i__ng Three Suckateer
Monday Dec 28, 2009 05:17:43 PM
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kountedout:
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@smiley c, if you dont like what i say then say so. i dont have a problem with saying im school of hard knocks if i was. just because i sound like someone dont make me them. when i first got here i was accused of others too. why dont you go and learn more about boxing instead of acting like a gossiping litte girl. ewwww hes this an that. you sound like a little girl. im a crackpot? you just showed your are not black which i figured. when i got here i said my friend told me about this site
Monday Dec 28, 2009 06:08:17 PM
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Mullen. :
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Radam G, all is cool. I'l pass coming back . Thanks anyways.
Tuesday Dec 29, 2009 07:08:30 AM
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Mullen:
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When I'm watching a fighter...I don't see color, I see talent. Manny Pacquiao, is the greatest fighter I ever saw. great chin. Great knockout power. Great speed. Easily the most exciting fighter. You can take that to the bank/blood bank. Peace guys.
Tuesday Dec 29, 2009 07:12:28 AM
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MisterLee @ Mullen:
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Are we chasing cars? We oughta scroll the troll, says snow patrol, fo' sho!!!
Wednesday Dec 30, 2009 02:34:50 AM
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Mountain God:
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Bradley halleluja!! make this happen and kick scaredy cat to the curb than Mosley than and take the next weigth class with Yuri
Wednesday Dec 30, 2009 04:24:00 PM
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Mountain God:
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Bradley halleluja!! make this happen with Pac and kick scaredy cat to the curb than Mosley than and take the next weigth class with Yuri
Wednesday Dec 30, 2009 05:44:23 PM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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