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Isaiah@Mayweather SR.:
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Manny is clean, mean and ready to F your son up! How about we test you for crack? I bet you fail miserably!!! Are you all that scared?!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 12:49:31 AM
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Love2Box:
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Haha I don't think anyone really believed Pacquiao was/is on drugs anyway.. Not even Floyd Sr. himself.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 12:49:33 AM
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Isaiah:
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Ha! First comment! Beat you by 2 seconds!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 12:50:38 AM
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Marco Polo:
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I think each respective corner who will be on the ringside with the fighters should also undergo drug test.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:33:00 AM
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ram:
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manny dont react on those comments made by mayweather sr. its their tactic to distruct you and distruct your concentration just continue your thing
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:40:56 AM
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arturo:
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they are just playing games by making those remarks. Manny fights and Roach talks $#1t, but this time we are going to hear all kinds of $#1t from everyone. I have a feeling that Manny will be frustrated at the Mayweather family by March 13th. That would be perfect for Floyd.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:41:14 AM
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Greatest:
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Mayweather Sr. is basically expert on drugs coz he was addict before, and put to jail because of it...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:42:46 AM
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titsky:
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Why don't mayweather sr. try that substance( Steroid ) to his own son, if ever there is! He must have known it before.. he is a trainer... or may be, he has been using it to mayweather jr... you see he is undefeated... how's that?
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:43:11 AM
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euclid:
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To me it is obvious that Mayweather Sr. is making outrageous statements to grab attention for himself . . . especially with the utter humiliation he suffered with what happened to his ward Ricky Hatton . . . .knocked out cold in the 2nd round . . . .in spite of all the bluster of Mayweather Sr. that Ricky hatton will destroy Manny . . . . .what a shame . . . . and all theses steroids blah blah blah is just to justify or trying to make an excuse of a very humiliating career-ending episode of Mayweather as a legit trainer . . .he has totally lost credibility as a trainer . . . I will be surprised any boxer in his right mind will ever hire Mayweather Sr as a trainer now or in the future . . . .what a disgusting and utter shame to end a career . . . . .
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:47:31 AM
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brown bomber:
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Hey F Lo...i couldn't agree with you more...great article...very objective and speaks of the TRUTH!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:56:37 AM
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jarcex:
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What do you expect would come out from the mouth of a convicted illegal drug user and trafficker/pusher? LIES!!!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:57:27 AM
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Kevin Cosing:
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Manny Pacquiao's strength secret is the "tinolang manok" Gingered chicken soup with vegetables. Filipinos eat this dish if they want to be strong like when they are recovering from flu or fever. In the Philippines most athlete eat this dish. But I think it is only effective to those who have respect to other ayhletes. So it won't work with Floyd Junior. .
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:04:21 AM
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sniper:
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Stupid Mayweather he is just showing his idiot mind the way he talk. Anyway this guy is from Planet Pluto doesn't have an education. He wanted somebody to be with his idiot mind. Trashcan mouth.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:07:55 AM
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stu pid:
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dumb accusation by a dumb trainer!!! a steroid to make your chin stronger so you can take strong punches???!!!! what a moron!!!
pathetic!!!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:18:41 AM
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avidboxingfan:
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nice article frank. classless comments always comes from classless people.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:20:48 AM
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striker:
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Manny has said that he has grudge feelings against the Mayweather. Floyd is in REAL DEEP S.H.I.T right now..
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:23:13 AM
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marvin eric:
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better sue floyd sr, with libel....
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:24:41 AM
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Jaggernaut:
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RICE POWER....... that's what Manny has in every fiber of he's body.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:25:34 AM
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aFan:
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the steroids issues by Floyd Sr. means that Nevada Athletic Commission process of testing a boxer is not reliable. Floyd Sr. is not only accusing Pacquiao of using PED but he is also accusing Nevada Athletic Commission of being unreliable.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:28:17 AM
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pinoypunch:
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The Mayweathers are trying to scare Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach out of the negotiations. They are trying to bluff Manny but Manny accepted their challenge and thats why we hear a deafening silence from Floyd Gayweather Jr.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:35:13 AM
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kuradang:
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Where's Floyd? Haven't heard from the guy lately.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:46:34 AM
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krista:
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tonkat ali is the real drug behind manny's success
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:51:07 AM
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bolo punch:
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if there's no iota to floyd sr.'s claim then why won't he ever shut his crapful mouth up? maybe floyd sr. should have his head examined so that doctors would see what inside, seriously. maybe it's just full of air. it's really difficult to get something across somebody who's got nothing but air between his ears.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:53:59 AM
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sonnym:
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why dont you add a "brain scan test" for the mayweathers prior to the fight between pacquiao and floyd. that would be fair enough...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:55:01 AM
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F**Mwete:
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The issue is very clear this American could not accept that the best boxer right now is from the Philippines. The American want to get all the credit but for sure it is not. So, he want to destroy the Filipino, the Manny Pacquiao, the all time great boxer.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:04:43 AM
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macho:
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Floyd is really conditioning our minds on excuses in case his son loses to the PacMan.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:06:06 AM
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colt45:
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The Problem with Big Floyd is that he has a Lil Head with a Big Mouth. If this Packy Guy are into some enhancing s**t there could have been 100 of a fighter like him who would emerge to eat punches like that...so, how come there is only ONE Pacman? Big Floyd should back up his claim, otherwise he should find the right formula to inject his head to calm down, and also to inject his JR Lil Floyd to come up into something super-human, say eating poo-poo to achieve an extra added speed to run around...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:06:25 AM
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Sonny:
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Pacquiao is blessed with a great chin. Pacquaio was down twice in his carrer but it happened during his early days and both due to dehydration. Mayweather Sr could just not accept the fact that the Pacman is now the best among the best. Mayweather sr. should be penalized for his unfounded allegations. The Nevada Athlethic Commission should look into the matter seriously. Mayweather Sr. derives his earning from the sport and he should respect those concerned officials who are efficiently doing their respective jobs.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:11:34 AM
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dominicbuilder:
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Manny need to counter now... Mayweather Sr need to be stopped, as you said...lies becomes truth when repeatedly said...
Manny has FOUR (4) Lawyers under his domain, they just need to sue Mayweather Sr to give him some lesson...
I think this is the time Team Pacquiao bring this matter to court...and let us see if they can prove the "Steroids"...millions of Pacquiao fans will rejoice seeing the old mouth behind bars...hahaha...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:38:13 AM
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Miguel Gotto:
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I think floyd sr. uses that reason just to make the fight not to happen,coz he knew his son will be in trouble fighting pacman,on what he witness last nov. 14 is a killer megamanny and their are scared of badly and brutal beating that manny will impose to his fraud son.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:38:44 AM
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KHELVINZ:
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I advice the pacquiao vs mayweather fight should test any drugs through olympic style and FLOYD SR must be also include for testing in any drugs susbtance. Results.... All accusations will goes to Floyd Sr.. Floyd Sr is one suspect of using drugs before until now thats why he sick which results to his being DRUG ADDICT.. Huh?!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:52:07 AM
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francis:
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Unsolicited Advice to Team Pacquiao:
Follow the standard rule of Nevada state. If mayweather camp insists on something beyond that, then they must be "penalized in dollars" if their accusation(doing the test is born out of their baseless accusation in the first place, right?), registers a negative result.
They are not just questioning Pacquiao but the whole system itself so they must be responsible for that.
Now if they have any legally valid evidence to support their theory, then Pacquiao must go through their suggested tests.
Team Pacquiao can only ignore this baseless accusation while there is no fight yet. However, since then that the fight is on hand, and if the mayweather camp is utilizing this to circumvent the standard rule, then Team Pacquiao must be afforded with any incentive necessary when the results register a negative. The theory is not just damaging to Pacquiao but is putting a certain unfair pressure to Pacquiao.
The Mayweathers are not the only ones deserving to be reasonable. Team Pacquiao does, too.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:57:34 AM
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bbtroy:
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Mayweather Sr is mad unable to get his hands on his conceived performance enhancing drugs which he himself believed do not exist. Sad is, if li'l Floyd outrun Pacquiao in the judges card, Senior will boast of doing what they're supposed to do bringing the tests to olympic level preventing Pacquiao from using it.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:58:14 AM
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jack:
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A coward and scared person has a lots of reasonings just to make him look good to other.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:02:13 AM
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Asteroids:
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if this so cold magic enhancement drug does really exist, why is it exclusive to pacquiao? why dont we use it to the other Filipino boxers so we would have more champions? answer that doubters! AND many Filipinos will be rich because it suppose to exist only in the Philippines. Mr. Floyd, I believe it's a concoction of Prayer,Faith, Hardwork and Discipline... not like your lil boy, making Money as his God. Your boy will not just loose, he'll burn in hell because of his idolatry and your wrong-doings.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:06:21 AM
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Reb:
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Floyd Sr, must be onto something before he just mumbles but now he can say "steee-royds" clearly. He must be taking something, someone should test and investigate his urine and make Floyd Sr. drink it.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:08:16 AM
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labuyo:
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Pacman has been knocking out opponents much bigger and older than him since he began boxing as a teen. He doesnt need any supplements to KO anyone including PBF for that matter.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:10:19 AM
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trager:
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very well said mr. writer.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:23:05 AM
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filipinotri-star:
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The old Mayweather is worry for his son because they accept the fight without thinking billion times over.
Take the fight Floyd and stop talking much!!!
Probably you feel afraid, do you???
The clock is ticking for the two big mouth in boxing world.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:28:37 AM
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Catch Weight:
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We hear this kind of steroid-accusation article because writers indirectly bite on the bait of Mayweather Sr. to make up a stir! Whether all of you believe this or not but I have to say that this is lamest excuse I've heard in boxing history for all time! 'Nough said.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:28:49 AM
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Chicago guy:
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Accuser/s the doer, simple as that.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:32:25 AM
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El Diablo:
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We should test all the Team Mayweather and Team Pacquiao for steroids. It should include all the Mayweather clan. Let's see who's really on drugs. Some traits of drug user are: trash talker, delusional, doesn't know what is right from wrong, paranoid, jealous all the time, etc. These traits all applied to the Mayweather clan.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:44:27 AM
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filipinotri-star:
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The old Mayweather is worry for his son because they accept the fight without thinking billion times over.
Take the fight Floyd and stop talking much!!!
Probably you feel afraid, do you???
The clock is ticking for the two big mouth in boxing world.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:47:59 AM
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noelpogi:
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Floyd Sr. is paranoid about pacman.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:50:05 AM
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pacman:
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the only people i recall caught on pushing illegal drugs and was jailed
was the man talking pacman got into steriod...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 06:00:48 AM
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ultimoshogun:
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Yeah, I don't think most people are listening to Mayweather and his speculations. I think a fight may be the exception where steroids really don't help a fighter anyway. A couple years ago I remember MMA legend Bas Rutten say that there was a statistic where most of the fighters who tested positive were also the loser of the fight. Goes to show that a clean fighter with heart and skill still usually beats the cheaters...De La Hoya vs Vargas is a good example.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 06:26:04 AM
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k:
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Floyd sr is a clown man he really cracks me up hahaha he's a complete id*ot but that's the role that he plays in this life so let him be the id*ot. I mean the guy's been tested several times and if Bruce Lee can get his body ripped like that then why can't others do it if they are so gifted plus the guy trains hard too. Losers like Floyd sr. will never know how to train that hard because I don't think he has :p he hasnt gone thru hell yet
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 06:34:29 AM
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brawler:
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How many times will I tell you guys! The secret of the pacman is not HGH nor steroids or any performance inhancing drugs, hes secret is ALEX ARIZAS conditioning secret!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 06:58:32 AM
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carl:
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manny has an entire nation behind those punches!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:03:40 AM
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nate_brawl:
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It's disturbing that some people actually buy into Floyd Sr.'s baseless accusations. Manny and his entire camp have no qualms about taking Olympic-style drug testing. I just hope such a demolition job on Pacquiao doesn't dampen anticipation for the fight. Some fans might believe crazy Floyd and lose interest in the fight altogether, thinking the fight's a cheat.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:12:07 AM
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EXAMINERAUTHOR:
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nice piece.
Floyd Sr is simply scared of the Pacman. As simple as that.
He is ZERO CREDIBILITY.
He is merely giving and advance alibi in case the fight materializes and his beloved trashtalking son ends flat on his back on the canvas Hatton-like.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:25:32 AM
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Monix:
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the mayweathers are really scared now. they're trying their best to protect the reputation of Floyd Jr. as a pound4pound undefeated fighter that's why they're throwing all this allegations/distractions to Pacquiao. However, their strategy has back fired. This is the first time I've seen MP as mad as hell. I think he'll be going for the KILL (literally) from the very first round... Gayweather, watch out!!! Make sure your dad will be quick to stop the fight when you're already in trouble...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:25:54 AM
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RJ from Milan:
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A lot of people take for granted that Pacquiao is used to taking punches, hard flush shots because earlier in his career, he was a fighter with LITTLE to NO DEFENSE and he was taking a lot of those shots while he relied mostly on his SPEED and POWER to win fights. As he rose GRADUALLY in weight, his punch resistance increased as he's taking shots from hard punchers in every weight class he's ventured into, and he got used to it.
The last fighter to knock Pacquiao down is one Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov at 126, he got careless and got tagged by a hard right. The last 'official' knockdown was the first Barrera fight although the replay shows their feet got tangled up and Manny fell over.
So don't be surprised people.
Manny has an adamantium chin.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:33:52 AM
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Mullen:
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Manny, came up from 106 lbs..win, lose, draw, lbflb no one can touch him.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:53:57 AM
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Matthew:
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I have to disagree with Frank on a few points about the Pryor-Arguello fight. First, Panama Lewis used an ammonia capsule, which is illegal in a corner. Second, Lewis did in fact give Pryor asthma medication, which helped open up his lungs and give him a second wind. Pryor was fading in the 13th round, yet came out fresh as a daisy for the 14th. It's no coincidence that this happened after Pryor took a swig from that black bottle. Lastly, the Miami commission screwed up by not taking a post-fight urinalysis from both fighters, which has done nothing but fuel speculation ever since. As far as Floyd Sr. goes, the man is an ingnorant fool. I stopped listening to him years ago. He really has nothing to do with this fight, so he's trying to find a way to be relevant. His man Hatton got brutally kayoed by Pacquiao, so he should just be quiet. Pacquiao has tested clean 10 times, and until something changes it's a non-issue.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:54:55 AM
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Radam G - ____party sa Mindanao._____ ____ __Cotto and family:
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Manny has amazing, mad skills. And they don't come from taking pills. From eating Filipino foods, he has great power. Really early, he will be able to send Money May to the shower. Money May Time is up. Too bad that those huggers cannot get off his nuts. His days of creating optical illusions are gone. He can talk smack and verbally attack, but he will have to enter that squared jungle all alone. Pops Joy May will not be able to psych out Team Pac. His "Lil Floyd's" arse is going to get whacked. Fright is causing Money May at age overnight. The truth is, is that he is going to lose this fight. But he cannot accept it like a man, because he is his own delusional fan. Holla!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:56:07 AM
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Radam G__ ____No way!:
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Matthew, don't believe the propaganda and myths. Luis Resto was a known hardcore liar with a very weak mind. Try some asthma pills and see how they open you up. The Hawk Pryor conduct whup-arse on the late, great thin man twice. All was legal. Panama will say anything to psych his boxer up. All great trainers do. Holla!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:03:12 AM
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toughguy:
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PBF sr got horrified when he saw how Pacman took the best shots of cotto w/o flinching. He knows that his son doesnt have the ability to do so and he understand now what kind of a monster his son will be facing. Come March 13 Pacman will tear these trashtalkers apart like piece of paper. I hope the mayweathers will be preparing a coffin because the Pacman will bury mayweather jr in the canvas.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:08:24 AM
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GOAT:
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Who cares what Sr. says, what Roach says, What Arum says, and what Uncle Rodger says, come March 13th, we will know who is the better fighter. Fight night it's only PBF and Pac in the ring and PBF will give a boxing clinic to Pac and stop him late.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:17:26 AM
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yellow skin:
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the one who is quick in pointing finger is the one who farted.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:19:07 AM
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williamu137:
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I believe the olympic style testing just makes boxing more trust worthy for the mainstream fans even though i think its ludricus. I believe that these ignorant mind games & trash talking will give us something to read everyday before march 13th because the Mayweathers's( all 3), Ellerbe, Roach, Ariza, and Arum don't know how not to shut up. I,ve been watching boxing for over 30 years and these are the 2 best p4p fighters in the last 20 for sure. I,ve never seen anything like Pacquiao, He really is like a F5 tornado that doesn't stop coming until he destroys you with his amazing speed, footwork, and power from different angles. He really is like the Bruce Lee of Boxing. Mayweather is probaly the most complete fighter i have ever seen. He is a defensive wizard and is one of if not the smartest fighter ever. He doesn't watch tapes and makes all adjustments by himself. Pacquiao has the greatest trainer ever in Roach( yes, better then Dundee). you have 2 fighters from2 different countries, 2 different backgrounds, 2 different personalities, and 2 different styles. This is the fight i've been waiting for and better then April 6,1987(hagler-Leonard). this is 50-50 but i go with the man who is maybe the greatest in learning the name of this website.(Sweet Science) Floyd.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:28:06 AM
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JMB:
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To GOAT, Keep dreaming man.... Coz after that you will go back in reality and witness Mayweather kiss the canvas at round 6
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:57:29 AM
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Erik:
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Manny passed the steroids test, now let's see the prison records, and rap sheet for the whole Mayweather family. ATTEMPTED HOMOCIDE, DRUG DEALING, DRUG ABUSE, ETC.ETC.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 08:58:42 AM
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ward:
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mayweather takes steroids drugs,thats whys never been ko...better drug test now,.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:00:56 AM
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Chicago guy:
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March 13 is the judgement day. Let us wait and see who is the better fighter. Baseless accusation will not help Floyd jr. inside the ring. to win the fight which only shows that the Mayweather camp is not confident of winning the fight. Accussing Pacquiao in advance of non-proof alibi will use them as an alibi/excuse when Pacquiao knockout Floyd jr. ass.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:01:33 AM
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J Smutts:
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Is there no lengths that Floyd Sr. wouldn't go to? Just listening to him contradict himself in other fight interviews is enough to know that 90% of the time, it's the Sarcoidosis medicine talking. The other 10% is the crack! If he actually had some kind of evidence (not even hard evidence such as video or steroid reciepts) in the form of someone in Pacquiao's camp telling of his steroid use, then maybe the media could turn it into a feeding frenzy..... but the media is literally taking a prescription drug slash crack head habitual interview rambler's comments to light. Wow, I need to tell a media outlet that I have proof that Manny Pacquiao is really from Mexico and photoshop a picture of him with a chalupa, then sell it to the National Inquirer! Now that'd be news!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:03:26 AM
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Uku:
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LMAO WOW man are they that scarred? I tell you what s happening over in the Mayweather camp. Their studding Paquiao but can't learn because they are gasping at how great this guy is. It's like me asking you to study the pyrotechnics of a fireworks show but cant because you are too busy looking at the display.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:09:19 AM
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benz:
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this steroid thing is one of a million excuses of mayweathers just in case they will loss, once and for all stop this stupidity because everyone knew that pacman is clean, just tell the boxing world if mayweather want to back out, as chicken as they are we know they want to get out of the bout, stop all this baloney and just sign the contract pacman is eager to give you a left hook
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:11:20 AM
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Master Snake:
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The Pacman eats mountain oysters for strength, endurance and pronounced head growth! He can never be stopped as long as he's got the goat balls!!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:22:48 AM
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Baklita:
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Floyd Mayweather Sr was in fact convicted for drug trafficking as part of a ring smuggling cocaine. He served prison term in 1993 for being guilty for his illegal drug involvement.
Is Floyd Sr mirrors his own conviction on drugs and takes it out on Manny Pacquiao? Absolutely!
Aihihihi!!!
Baklita
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:52:48 AM
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SALT lover:
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Oh boy, boy... here we go. I've been ignoring these claims about Pacquiao using illegal supplements, cuz I don't talk garbage, and basically, I really don't think Pacquiao's takin' enhancement drugs, but I wouldn't be surprised either. The one thing I will add for sure, cuz it's the TRUTH, and it's somethin' everybody here is missin', includin' Frank Lotierzo himself, cuz I know the heart of Lotierzo's article is this sentence: "For the record, Pacquiao has already tested clean 10 times without any trace of PED's found in his system by the Nevada Athletic Commission." Well, the argument that completely nullifies that sentence is this: Nevada State Athletic Commission's testing don't mean NOTHIN'. Shane Mosley always tested clean after fights, and he was usin' steroids. Maskin' agents are advanced in today's sports world. Many athletes in all sports were caught usin' PED's not by doin' tests on them, but cuz of accusations that turned out to be True. And Mosley is a clear example. If Pacquiao is usin' anythin' illegal, which I doubt, then it would be revealed blowin' the whistle on him. Not on those obsolete tests. That is all.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:58:42 AM
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Frank Z:
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Pacquiao actually hasn't gained as much weight as people think. people think he's gained 35 lbs from 112-147 since 01, but remember in his last fight at flyweight he starved and dehydrated himself for days and was only able to get to 113. i believe that was one of this KO losses in large part to having no energy in him from weight loss. i'm guessing he should have AT LEAST fought at 118 at that point, probalby 122. also, in his fights against JMM at 130, and david diaz, at 135, both fights he went into the fight night weighing in the mid 140s. Now he's simply fighting at his comfortable weight while being able to eat normally, or maybe even more than normal so that his body will not consume muscle from the hard workouts he does. in reality i'm seeing pac as gaining about 20 real pounds since he was 23 years old, which really isn't much seeing as how floyd's also gained about that much weight since 2001, and behop's gained that much since 2005. pacquiao's pain resistance has gone up cause he's able to actually eat and drink now before a fight. also you could tell that cotto really did hurt him with some body shots and hooks, but he just has the ability to psych himself through that kind of thing after taking a few seconds to get himself back.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:59:58 AM
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I don't think floyds sr.sencerity taking this fight happening.a lot of excuses and so manymore, he knews his son is in danger once he get inside the ring.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:01:54 AM
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SALT lover:
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Oh, and I forgot...XD!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Ya'll bet anythin' you want, this whole thing IS and has been reachin' Pacquiao Team minds, and there's no way to deny that. And the best example is their personal attacks. Floyd Mayweather Sr, since his opinion about Pacquiao usin' steroids, Pacquiao Team has stroke back, but in personal matters. Floyd Sr always stood talkin' this, which is INSIDE the sport of boxin', and they have been sayin' that he's dumb, that he didn't finished high school, that he should go to church, that he's a formal drug addict, and Roach recently sayin' that if Roger Mayweather kept talkin' about his formal trainer, that he can't take it no more, and that he'll fight Roger in the streets.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The mind games is gonna be won by the Mayweathers, and it is winnin, BIGTIME! XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Latezzzzzzzzzz!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:07:12 AM
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Matthew:
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@Radam. I don't believe that Arguello was going to win that fight anyway. Pryor had Arguello's number; it's like Angelo Dundee said, there's always someone out there that can lick ya. Pryor's speed, power, movement, and awkwardness would always give a textbook boxer like Arguello trouble. All I'm saying is that Panama Lewis is a known cheat, and I don't put anything past him. The Miami commission messed up; it could have eliminated any shred of suspicion by performing a post-fight urinalysis on both fighters, but it did not. This doesn't taint, in my opinion, Aaron Pryor's status as one of the best junior welters ever, but it does make me wonder.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:09:54 AM
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Dessert Fox23:
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I think Frank Z, offers one of the most plausible explanation to all those astonished and disbelieving thomases, about manny's ascent to the heavier weight category.
Simply put, he was too poor to actually have enough food to feed his naturally bigger (than flyweight) body, and that by the time he could afford proper nutrition, he has already previously dominated the lower weight categories. At (junior)/welterweight, this is the optimal weight for his body, and this has allowed him to be more capable in taking heavy punches. One can even dare say that the bigger phenomenon for Manny was him dominating the lower weights, despite his conditions back then.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:24:31 AM
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Benny Antonio:
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When Manny again passes the drug test and knocksout Mayweather Jr., I bet Mayweather Sr. will claim that Manny Pacquiao is not human, and is in fact an ALIEN from outer space!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:41:06 AM
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zander:
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mayweather sr. will bang his head after hes son get knock flat and will end up dreamin like a hatton fight which trained by a gayweather mouthering sr. its pretty obvious that he can't accept defeat like what hes son gonna be on march 13...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:45:19 AM
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kyle:
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Floyd Sr and Malignaggi both are Popeye funs. This two never groe and always believe like Popeye that need to take spinach to be strong. They have kids mind and never grow up. Now Floyd Jr is starting to take spinach for power.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:10:50 AM
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the olympic style of drug testing will find out if floyd is indeed clean.. its a pity the fight will not push thru because of floyd testing positve... an excuse for floyd to avoid defeat, and tarnish his "0"...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:13:22 AM
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#1 PacFan "sign the contract Floyd!":
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What F-Lo forgot to mention about Pacman is that he has been taking brutal punches flush and shrugged them off in the lower weights. I think Manny has the best chin in the game since Margarito fell to Mosley. You guys think Mayweathers wins these mind games but I believe it will create fire on Manny's eyes. Remember the Hatton fight, Manny told Roach when they were at press that not to worry I'll handle it. What happen to Hatton? Manny fights better angry in my opinion. All this will motivate Manny into a more fighting machine. This article is strictly for KOUNTEOUT who has always been convinced that Manny is on some type of enhancement drug.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:20:43 AM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao by split decision or late round stoppage!":
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@Frank Z, great post and may I add that Manny has been fighting at 130 a couple fights more than usual and takes great punch.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:23:46 AM
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You're absolutely right. If there is a product out there that does what Sr claims and it's undetectable American boxers would know about it, much less a boxer from the Philippines would. Sr seem to be making an excuse in case Jr loses. Not much confidence in his son I guess. Can't blame him after he saw what Manny did to Hatton. Now we know Manny is a natural welterweight and I believe him when he said he was having a hard time making 130 a year ago.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:39:57 AM
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ampatuan:
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manny never ate pork as a boxer. never had any kind of immunization since birth. he loves to eat horse radish and okra regularly. also, he doesn't take any meds when he's sick or in pain. his power are all NATURAL !
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:42:51 AM
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I am telling you guys, Pacman still standing up to12 rounds win or loss. He is a machine and can stand a punch of bigger guys. Remember Mayweather is a countepuncher and not a strong puncher. Come March 13 Pacman will be more exposive an will expose Mayweather. He will be victorious in this fight.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:48:15 AM
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ernie:
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if they would test manny for ped olympic style,they should test floyd jr. as
well. the same rigourous test weeks prior the fight should be done to floyd jr too. we never know, he might be into something too since the
father is so insistent,. like father like son.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:56:04 AM
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Samjoy:
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Steroids of Manny Pacquiao is going to church, training hard and eating tinolang manok and plenty of malunggay every day.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 11:59:35 AM
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RANCHERO_AFAMADO:
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VARGAS WAS IN ROIDS FOR THE DE LA HOYA FIGHT AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. LMAO... ROIDS DONT HELP YOUR CHIN , BUT THEY DO HELP.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 12:49:17 PM
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Real Talk:
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I don't want to hear any excuses about steroids this and that. Boss up ! and let's get it on !!! Dueces
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 12:53:03 PM
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kENkOY:
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Yeah! you are right Samjoy. I think the Mayweathers should at least give a try to take or taste Manny's food supplements from famous viands like Milk Fish Sinigang mixed with Malunggay and the Ginataang Laing (Phils Spinach). He should also try to visit the church once and a while. Manny's belief, trust to God is always evident in every fight. He never failed to pray and get God's blessing. Despite of their dangerous / lethal sports, he prayed intently and submit himself to the Most High, that himself and his opponent will be protected from any possible life threatening injuries.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 01:00:48 PM
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its a shame some people won,t floyd to lose so bad that they get mad because people won,t a clean fight if you are not doing nothing you have nothing to worry about
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 01:31:19 PM
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Frank Z@ #1Pacfan:
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i think people make too big a deal out of "size" and "weight" in boxing. you can gorge a big christmas party dinner and end up 5 lbs heavier, doesn't mean you can bull over people. i still do not understand why people perceived hatton and cotto to be bigger than pac, when cotto is the same height, same reach, and hatton is the same height, but shorter reach. they point to cotto and hatton walking around at heavier weights, but fatter ain't bigger, it's just a problem with the english language where fat people are called "big" for the sake of euphemism. now, i would say mayweather is legitimately "bigger", because he has about 2 inches of height on pacquiao, and 5 inches in wingspan, so in that case the size could be a problem for pac, but not in the sense that mayweather will bully him around the ring, because thats' not his style anyway. i propose that we stop calling fat people big, and just call them fat.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 01:31:59 PM
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dwinnax:
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that is an early excuse of mayweather camp bcoz they feel that they never win this fight....
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:08:34 PM
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Radam G ___n Mindanao___Party TIME___@ Frank Z:
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You are spot on a thousand percent. There is a lot of confusion because of euphemisms and naive people taking everything literally. Also in this legal mayhem biz, there are BIG fips, known as public relations and promotion. Manny was taller than Ricky Hatton and had longer reach. Cotto was about a half of inch taller than Manny, but their reach was about the same. Money May's wing span is close to five inches larger than PacMan because of the money man's wide shoulders. But when you measure from the pit of the arms to the finger tips, Money May is a little over an inch larger than Manny. Boxing is all about selling the product. And often exaggeration and straight-out lies are told to increase the sells. Boxers fib big time about the heights (and the ages of pugilist when there are no authentic birth certiticate (word misspelled). Optical illusions and trickery are not just used in the squared jungle by the combatant, that jive is used in every aspect of the game. Holla!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:26:01 PM
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Keep talking Floyd cuz Manny is hearing every word, But it won't phase him or make him frustrated because Coach Roach will focus Floyd's annoying words into a controlled rage which Manny will unleash in the form of the "see you at the kareoke party" left hand ( "The Pacquiao" as the MMA fighters are calling it). What Floyd (as well as motor mouth Malanaggi and cant-c*nt Cintron) don't understand is that Manny draws his strength from his faith and his heart. Plus, having 90 million of us Filipinos cheering for you helps.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 02:38:07 PM
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#1 PacFan "sign the contract Floyd!":
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@Frank Z, actually Cotto was the bigger man this time. Cotto had a one inch in height and slightly bigger wingspan but the same in reach. I totally agree that Mayweather being the bigger man in terms of height and reach will have a huge advantage. Mainly his reach will be key when you think about the jab but Mayweather hasn't been using that jab in the late stage of his career.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:02:39 PM
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Balut:
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Mayweather, Philippines has the best chem/bio lab in the world.....lol!!!!!!!!!!! You look like Predator on crack! lol.......
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:07:43 PM
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Stephanie:
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All this allegations coming from Floyd Sr. will eventually end up in his face. By that i mean all the crap that he has given Manny about this allegations (with the obvious intention of discrediting Pacquiao's exploits) will only backfire by means of karma on his even arrogant son
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:10:41 PM
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Radam G @ Matthew:
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Panama Lewis was in the corner of Roberto Duran the nights Duran beat Leonard and Davey Moore. Panama Lewis is master trainer and psych-you-up cornerman. This cat is not a known cheat -- far from it. He was involved in only one bout. where cheating was proven and caught. But he was not the one who was caught cheaping. YUP! Luis Resto was caught with tampered gloves. Well, Resto had a long history of doing that and being caught. But not only him. He is just the most notorious boxer, naive and say-what-they-tell-you-to-say weak arse. Seven years before Resto was caught cheating with the late Billy Collins Jr, he was caught at the 1976 AAU National Championships doing the same thing, but my cousin still kicked his butt. Resto forced himself to get disqualified to save himself from a knockout. In the pros in about 1978, Resto was caught again with tampered gloves after Bruce Curry (Fiji) knocked him out. There are other times too, but I've made my point. Panama Lewis didn't even know Resto doing these times.The game of boxing is seedy and dirty. Underworld $hit goes on in the open all the time. Until someone like Billy Collins Jr or Nazim Richardson bring it to light to the media burning up for a story to uplift those rating. I was a kid pro barely out of my teens when I destroyed the IBF and got the founder and CEO of it, Robert Lee sent to jail. This sucka was stripping champions for not paying for their belts, and the sucka was selling rankings for D-minus class fighters to get shots at the title, or sometimes to be bestowed the champion without fighting. And I was involved in some other jive too with some of the other alphabet cesspool sanctioning organizations. I made more money from suing organations and promoters than I did from boxing. And I'm not so old that I cannot make a comeback. Any way, Panama Lewis is a scapegoat for embarassment of the powers that be. Did he know that Resto's gloves was doctored? Probably so! Did he doctored those gloves -- HECK NO! He just went along with it. And the people at fault are the New York gloving official who was supposed to be in that dressing room while gloving was going on, and the darn referee, who is suppose to check both fighters' gloves in the ring before the start of the bout. The New York State Athletic Commission has a bunch of cowards who have scapegoated Panama Lewis for their sorry mistakes. And these jokers refused to paid compensation to Billy Collins Jr and his father. This is a wrong that that dirty comission has been able to get away with. What happened to Billy Collins Jr is as bad or maybe worse than what was done to first black heavyweight world champion Jack Johnson. Somebody ought to step up to some powers in charges and make the state of New York pay the estate of Billy Collins Jr. Panama Lewis is on his way to going down in history as a Jack-Johnson-like trainer -- charged with a whacked-up, trumped-up crime to cover up the shorting comings and blundering of the powers in charge. The Santeria believer of word magic use be allowed to be back in those corners. All this wrongness in the game needs to stop. Margarito and his trainers are getting their license back in 2010, so should Panama Lewis. The NYSAC didn't even find traces or elements of plaster of Paris in his case. They only found that they didn't do their job -- CHECKED THE DANG GLOVES thrice -- as they were being put on in the dressing room, after they were put on and the referee checking them before the start of the bout. Holla!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:19:57 PM
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Radam G:
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*word magic should be allowed to be back in those corners...
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 03:26:09 PM
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ryon5521:
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Why don't we test the guy who's talking about steroid or drugs then hang him on Stratosphere for 3 hours if he fails the test. The thing is this nognog guy is just jealous of Manny Pacquaio, 'cause he generates more boxing fans in the ring right now. Besides Manny had beaten the boxer he trained which means he is a sorry trainer or no brainer. They will be amazed comes next year when Manny knockout his son at 7th round. Also he needs to instruct his son how to jog, dance and run on the ring, if not i feel sorry for them, he also needs to feed his son arroz caldo and tinola to match Manny's fighting skill.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:25:10 PM
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James - Orlando:
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Who knows if Manny is on anything, I hope not at least for his legacy's sake.
Is this writer crazy? There is NO SPORT around today that steroids would benefit more.
1) Baseball - Benefits Batting
2) Track - Benefits sprinting
3) Football - Benefits Strength
4) Boxing - Benefits Punching
I don't know and hope that Manny isn't on anything. Manny wouldn't know because he takes whatever his trainer Alex Garza gives him. Big Mistake!!! Manny should know everything that goes in his mouth...period!!!
I think the tests are a good idea because it clears any doubt from either side.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 04:45:25 PM
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tanaka:
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Floyd witnessing what pacquiao can do, he saw the possibility of his son losing, witty as he is, he then employ an early scape goat to justify his son's probable lose claiming without any evidence that manny is on somekind of prohibited enhancers.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:14:36 PM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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Repost: Me putting Pacquiao as the #3 best fighter of all time doesn't seem so ridiculous, doesn't it? I have to disagree on Manny being #2, but he sure deserves to be #3! This is a voting poll Worldwide people and you have to put into consideration that many of the old school boxing fans voted on this poll. I love it! Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao truly deserves to be among the greats like Robinson and Ali.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 05:38:42 PM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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All these people(Mayweather Sr., Cintron, Malignaggi) who make allegations(no proof) on Manny taking steriods is just an attempt to destroy Pacquiao's incredible career.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 06:45:31 PM
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pETE STEWARD:
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the fact is we don't know either way.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 06:54:00 PM
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Radam G -- ____ ____ ___ Mindanao, Pilipinas:
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All the accusers are shallow bums. They would accuse Jesus and his Virgin Mother Mary of being on steriods. Hate is the worst blindness. Jealousy is the worst disease of the heart. Both Cintron and Malignaggi will end their boxing career in a very bad fate. Pops Joy May is just shucking and jiving. He is using psy-ops. Whatever works, because "Lil Floyd" doesn't have a chance. This will be no bloody dance. Joy's little seed is going to bleed. PacMan is going to beat him down. Make Money May look like a fleeing clown. Holla!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:03:27 PM
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vegas boy:
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Hey guys remember when the fight between floyd jr and pee drinking marquez have to be reschedule because of a rib accident (by floyd jr). Was there a doctors report submitted to the Nevada Athletic Com? Somebody should dig deeper into this. According to grapevine there was not enough tickets sold and when the fight was reschedule unsold tickets have to be discounted just for people to buy. So if the rib accident is not true then the Team Mayweather know's how to misled people to their advantage. These is the same as what Floyd Sr. is doing right now. And if the rib accident was fake Pacman will make it real (to floyd jr.) during the fight.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:37:58 PM
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Real Talk:
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Talk is cheap ! Let's get it on ! Dueces
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:40:41 PM
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Vincent Ogawa:
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I can't believe Floyd Sr. is getting press. I don't know if he is hitting the glass pipe but I know he was convicted for drug peddling back in the day. And if that's the case and he was cooking, chopping, and bagging up crack there is a good chance that it got up into his skin. But anyways what would you expect from him anyway one who bashed his own SON and his BROTHER in public. I mean not just bashed but he ripped them a new one. Have you heard some of the stories that have even came from Floyd Sr. From being shot by his own brother to beating up a kid who said he could "beat a Mayweather." He has a mouth that constantly spews diarrhea. Oh and on another note who do you think will be Floyd's chief sparring partner for the fight? I've seen some images of Zab Judah working out at Floyd's gym over the summer and celebrating with Jr at flag day. Would sparring with Zab be useful? UnO
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 07:54:01 PM
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TotoyBato:
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Both fighters Pacman & Floyd (or any high profile athlete) should be tested rigorously. Test samples should be frozen and stored for the future when testing methods will screen out any exotic cutting edge PED that may be in use today. Either be diligent in testing or just let it go, may the best PED win. Greatness is at stake in this upcoming fight. The fans of these athletes demand that their abilities should be absolutely natural and not enhanced by dope. Can't wait for HBO 24/7 it will be entertaining to see Mayweather camp drama (comedy). Floyd jr. should tape up his Dad's foul mouth. Li'l Jr. is going to be the one who will take the beating, Sr. should not enrage the monster that is about to demolish his son.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:04:36 PM
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pitbull:
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it's a bad move to talk trash to pacquiao....come fight night mayweather camp will know it. pretty boy will be badley beaten...starts with the chest and ends on the face.
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 09:59:00 PM
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dp69 doing 378 pushups:
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I wouldnt be surprise if his son scareweather was on steroids when he fought the canvas kisser...i wouldnt be surprise at all....holla back!!!
Tuesday Dec 15, 2009 10:57:16 PM
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Radam G __ -- _____ ___:
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ALL Right! That is how I like it. Lawsuits are getting filed against Malicrappy by Nation Pac's lawyers. Paula -- I mean Paulie -- is going to be fighting for a long time now. That sucka is getting ready to get broke. Clowns like him cannot hear until you start hitting them in the pockets and bank acccounts. Holla!
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 01:22:58 AM
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p. wessam:
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floyd mayweather beating manny pacquiao does not automatically show that he is a greater fighter than the pacman. mayweather still has to show that his win over manny is no fluke like his wins over marquez and other overmatched opponents. let him beat first 3 more fighters at welterweight with the caliber of morales, barrera and marquez at featherweight, then and only then will i consider him greater than pacquiao.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 05:23:06 AM
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Isaiah:
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If we need something in the running for shortest fight in history, Paulie Malignaggi can try to fight Manny Pacquiao. I mean, Manny sure better watch out for Paulie's power... NOT! Wonder how many seconds that would last? Anwser, however long it takes for Manny to land a punch...
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 06:35:26 AM
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dp69 doing 378 pushups:
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I wouldnt be surprise if his son scareweather was on steroids when he fought the canvas kisser...i wouldnt be surprise at all....holla back!!!
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 08:51:20 AM
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kountedout:
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this is all sick, you say manny eats this rice and whatever, if thats the case then a lot of other filipino fighters should be like that. are you telling me that manny is the only filipino that eats rice? you are telling off on yourself. i guess manny is the only person that goes to church too. if going to church is where he gets his strength thats a new one to me. going to church gave him the strength to commit affairs too right. you should just stop with all the hyping up a fighter like he is some god. that he is NOT! manny is a good fighter and come march 13th he will be fighting the best fighter he has ever stepped in the ring with and the best man will win. those who have been telling others to ignore my comments i can care less, you will read it anyways bc you are curious of what I say and its all real not fake like a couple here are. olympic testing will be great for both fighters bc if someone is cheating they will get caught. anyone that knows boxing and there are few here that i rightfully say do should know that the normal boxing test for steroids is nothing! it cost a lot of money to do that kind of extensive testing. dont be mad bc someone wants the fight to be on the up an up. are you telling me freddie roach knew nothing about james toney on steroids? how could he when the guy that was shooting james up was telling freddie what he was giving him. did freddie come out and say no i dont want to deal with james bc he's cheating? NO! and he would never do it in the case either while there is so much money involved. you say if i dont give facts then stfu, when someone of some magnitude wants to know i will tell them. not tell some armchair qb who worships manny. this is not speculation this is fact! where there's smoke there's fire thats fo sho!
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 10:18:17 AM
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kountedout:
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if you think manny is going to ko floyd, jr your all fools. this is a quote from roach "I don't see Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the same light as Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya or Miguel Cotto. He was very confident of Pacquiao's success against those fighters. Roach is still very confident that Pacquiao can beat Mayweather on March 13 - but he says Mayweather is a much tougher opponent than any of the last three, and it won't be a simple task to knock him out. "I look at it as a very complicated fight. The truth is, it will be difficult and we have to work a lot with Manny on strategy, because Floyd is a great fighter, fast, very defensive and he is smart. Roach sees a Pacquiao decision as the most likely outcome. He doesn't think Mayweather will stand still at any point of the fight. hahaha when you look for a ko it might not ever come an you will be looking for 12 rounds all the way to a loss which is going to happen for manny.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 10:32:53 AM
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The Saint:
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So Mayweather's threatening to pull out of a fight because he wants more "wiggle room" regarding the weight? LOL. It's one thing to ask for a catchweight WITHIN the weight limit, but Mayweather wants to come in ABOVE the welterweight limit. LOL. Forget the "wiggle room," Mayweather should worry about getting more padding for the ring so he doesn't break his back when it hits the canvas.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 11:54:07 AM
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Trainer Freddie Roach is telling a coach joke. Pacquiao is going to ko Mayweather, if they fight. Mayweather is so scared that he wants to fight at a catchweight of 180 lmao.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 02:12:13 PM
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The Saint:
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Actually, Roach is now saying that Pacquiao will win by a decision. Roach analyzes and reanalyzes, he bases his statements on facts and doesn't spew things out sut to talk trash. However, I believe that the real reason Roach went from a KO victory to a decision victory for Pacquiao is to give Mayweather some confidence because it is clear that Mayweather is scared and looking for a way out. First it was the olympic testing, now it's for some "wiggle room" regarding the weight limit. Roach is trying to secure this fight and the ONLY way to do that is to not scare Mayweather. Maybe Roach is trying to convince Mayweather that Pacquiao can't hurt him.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 03:59:18 PM
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kountedout:
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it shows you have never boxed to say that ludicrous statement of roach saying manny would win by decision rather then ko to give floyd confidence is utterly stupid. do you hate floyd that bad! man you guys are some real bustas!!
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 06:04:05 PM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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Bravo koundetout! Bravo! How long did it take you to put such a post together? The definition of you post is JEALOUSY. All your allegations are based on assumption and you sound like that crack head Mayweather Sr, Girlynaggi, or knockmethefckout Cintron.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 06:06:47 PM
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kountedout:
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no not assumption. you base your knowledge on what? worshiping manny. how is this jealously? look at the other articles about manny being the figher over ali, johnson, louis. you are the only ignorant guy to agree with that nonsense. nobody said anything to you about that bc you are a worshiper of manny. when i talk i talk from facts. what's wrong with olympic testing its the best testing in the world so why are you opposed to that? are you afraid you might find out something that you dont want to find out? this is great! i know floyd is clean lets just make sure manny is close to being clean. a lot of fighters are dirty why is it that manny cant be dirty? bc you say so...hahaha oh great an arm chair qb
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 06:47:46 PM
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one of your own ppl have said if all manny eats is rice then why are there not other filipinos that can do that? you cant answer that bc we know he's dirty. im not in a cult like you. i have said if manny is clean and if he beats floyd he is no doubt without an excuse the better fighter. i can man up and im a boxing guy not in a CULT!
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 06:52:05 PM
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I won't believe any of the rumors until the contract is actually signed. It's still a toss up. Juan Manuel Marquez was a good tune-up bout for Floyd, the only thing we got to see was that he was bigger. I see Manny getting in and out using his foot speed to his advantage. I also don't see him circling to his left like he did in the Cotto fight either. I just don't see Manny as a pressure fighter there fore I don't think he will ko Floyd. I maybe wrong but there still hasn't been a blueprint that has worked. You can argue that the Castillo and De La Hoya's blueprints were effective but Floyd still won. The Judah blueprint was working until Floyd switched up his whole style. He dropped his Philly shell. I don't think he will even attempt that against Pacquiao because if it didn't work with Judah it won't work with Pac. Floyd needs to do whatever he can to get Judah to spar with him because he is the only person that comes close to Pac's build and hand speed. He might not have the footwork or work ethic but I know he is quick. UnO!
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 06:59:19 PM
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if you and others have so much knowledge in boxing then why do you guys get bent all out of shape the minute someone says something about manny. you don't do that about any other fighter. well could it be your asian? well im black and there are a lot of black fighters i do not like an floyd is not my favorite fighter. i see that you guys give the guy no credit for his accomplishments, even when he was at the smaller weights. we dont have to agree with each other but man you guys try to have boxing knowledge, then show it and look at fighters as fighters not what color of skin they wear. this goes to practically 95% of everyone on this site, including the editors.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 07:03:30 PM
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You are ugly too. Nobody cares your color or smell.
Wednesday Dec 16, 2009 08:58:21 PM
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Ian:
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Pacquiao should start firing his lawyers. How come no law suits has been filed yet!
Thursday Dec 17, 2009 12:31:40 AM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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@kountedout, I don't know where you're getting that I opposed the olympic style testing. Where did I say that? Where did I say anything about rice? He's on a high calorie diet who consums about 5,000 calorie a day. You know what eating too much rice does to you? Constapate you. You have to be stupid to bring up race in this issue unless you're the racist one. Here's my favorite athletes since I was a kid: Michael Jordan, Jerry Rice, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mayweather Jr.. Ali, Barry Bonds, Joe Montan, Steve Young, too much to list. What do most of those athletes have in common? I'll let you figure that one out. You're such an idiot man.
Thursday Dec 17, 2009 03:15:35 PM
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Kounteddoubt is like Little Bo Peep, who lost her sheep. This hardcore hater appears to have lost his teeth. There is no bite in his posts, just a lot for him to shallow. Fo' sure!
Thursday Dec 17, 2009 03:55:15 PM
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Roach:
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Olympic-style drug/steroid testing should be pushed, and let's get down to the bottom of all these Pacquiao-steroid speculation.
Why get all riled up? It's just a test. If there's nothing to hide, a series of non-invasive test should be nothing to worry about. Right? Right?
The suspicion of steroid or "substance" use by Pacquiao is not implausible by any means.There is a big difference between Olympic-style drug/steroid testing and the one conducted by Las Vegas. So it should be to everyone's interest that we clear up all the speculations and defensive postures.
Let's have it!
Thursday Dec 17, 2009 10:46:55 PM
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@pacfan, i know im an idiot who worships another man. hahaha why do you guys say anything to me? you and your other girlfriends have already said ignore me. manny is on steroids and thats that. when freddie roach said he will take the olympic style testing why did he say he wouldnt let manny take a test 6 weeks before the fight. why would he say that? bc that is when he will juice him up. it aint no rice he's eating it's that good ole juice. but it wont matter anyways bc floyd will beat him with whatever he's taken. manny shows weaknesses all the time. dont care about his punching he can never beat floyd mentally. manny is not a thinker. he's very dumb and you will see.
Friday Dec 18, 2009 12:25:00 AM
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kountedout:
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@smelly c, you are a simple simon. im a hardcore hater bc im not down with manny. go to sleep forever okay hahaha everytime i ask you arm chair qbs a question you never answer it,all you say is im a hater. well you will hate me more bc i know manny is juicing no accusations. @pacfan you are not a man. the only person you should worship is GOD and manny aint no god just a juiced up mediocre fighter. if anyone is jealous it's all of you wishing manny had the skills of floyd. well asians dont play in the NBA or NFL so you have to like someone.
Friday Dec 18, 2009 12:32:24 AM
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kountedout:
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@pacfan, why are you a floyd hater? im not a manny hater im a delahoya, judah, ruiz, hater. i dont have a problem saying who i hate. who has manny ever beat that was undefeated? stop walking around with blindfolds over your eyes. it is what it is. would you still say manny is great if he is juicing? answer that. I know that makes you upsets you that there are no allegations on floyd using the juice. just like margarito using those handwraps, how long has manny being juicing? bring on all the manny junkies
Friday Dec 18, 2009 12:47:33 AM
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kountedout:
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and another thing. manny and Floyd would be subjected to the same tests. So for all those base heads out there that is smokin and who think that this will mentally effect or even physically effect the fighters, it will affect both fighters, not just manny. but that's if you believe that junk that these tests mentally affect athletes. It affects them mentally if they are scared to get caught. and if manny's camp refuses to take these tests let me be the first to say that manny is definitely on the on the juice!!!!!!! and I know these tests can't detect some of the stuff out there but I may be wrong but I think they store the test samples for future testing. why is it that manny's strength and conditioning coach was also caught up in that BALCO scandal? it is what it is.
Friday Dec 18, 2009 01:08:31 AM
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Smiley C:
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Kounteddumb I'm sorry that I talk about your handicaps. Everybody is going to eventually go to sleep 4ever. Are you brain damage? I think so fo' sure!
Friday Dec 18, 2009 07:45:30 AM
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Matthew:
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@Radam. Panama Lewis may have been in Duran's corner when he beat Leonard and Moore, but he was most certainly NOT the chief second or strategist for either of those bouts. Arcel and Brown ran the show for the Leonard fight, and Nestor Quinones was in charge for the Moore fight. If Lewis wasn't a known cheat, he would be allowed to work corners, but he isn't. Whether it was Panama Lewis' or Resto's idea to remove the padding from the gloves and use plaster of paris is irrelevant. Both are cheats, and both are guilty. It only takes one incident for a reputation to be ruined. I agree that the NYSAC royally screwed up on this one, but Lewis is a bad guy.
Friday Dec 18, 2009 08:51:47 AM
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kountedout:
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@stupid C, my handicaps is knowing what you dont know. do you need somebody to talk to bc i see when you post comments nobody ever responds. i dont need for anyone to respond to my comments. stupid c thats why its called comments. its your opinion. haha just keep reading my comments and getting mad bc i have a lot more to say thanks a lot buddy!
Friday Dec 18, 2009 09:45:58 AM
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To the author: I don't know either way if he is clean or dirty, but PED can increase your punching power....the abilility to work longer with better recovery time and grow your body with less damage to it does nothing but increase strength. Explosiveness mixed with strength = punching power. Secondly, as history has shown, I think it is clear that just b/c someone tests clean in urine samples doesn't mean they haven't used PEDs. HGH and many other new designer drugs cannot be tested for in urine samples....Read and wise up Mr. Lotierzo
Friday Dec 25, 2009 03:02:09 PM
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kassa:
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Hey how about Golden Boy promotion? they have similar opinion as Mayweather Sr.(though they are not as blunt). I don't believe Manny is on anything,but I think he should comply to testing...at least it would help me rid of any doubt when i see his next fight.
Thursday Dec 31, 2009 01:09:41 PM
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