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Bye Bye, Roy
By Ron Borges
Roy Jones Jr.’s story ended the way they usually do in boxing. It ended sadly.
Flat on his back less than two minutes into the first round of a fight Wednesday night a hemisphere away from home, the 40-year-old Jones looked stunned as he lay on the floor looking up at a guy named Danny Green. He bore the look they all wear at the end: “How’d I end up here?’’
Once Roy Jones was the most respected name in boxing, a fighter much of the world insisted was one of the best boxers in history. While many old-timers would forcefully dispute that, there’s no question he was one of the best of his generation even though he was technically deeply flawed and seldom seemed interested in challenging himself against boxing’s leading challengers.
That is why it was not until this week that he first fought overseas, agreeing to fight the little-known IBO cruiserweight champion in Sydney, Australia. He went there because, frankly, nobody much wants to pay to see him fight in the States anymore.
That’s been proven time after time in recent years both on pay-per-view and at the gate. Once he was a draw. Today he’s just another old fighter who stayed too long at a very violent dance. He’s a tenor who can’t carry a tune anymore but keeps singing in the back of the cabaret.
When Jones pulled himself off the canvas, he spent what is hopefully the final minute or so of his boxing career with both hands wrapped around his ears, resembling a school kid being overwhelmed by a bully on the playground. He never fought back, instead just lying against the ropes and being pummeled by a less-than-effective Green until referee Howard Foster finally stopped it at 2:02 of that first round of hopefully Jones’ last fight.
The 36-year-old Green was supposed to be a tune-up for Jones, preparation for a rematch with Bernard Hopkins that should have happened 17 years ago but never did in large part because Jones didn’t want it to. That was always his M.O. in the old days. Back when he could fight he didn’t want to. Now he can’t and he just won’t leave the arena.
It was once written about a once surly but now genial but washed up old ballplayer that “he only learned to say hello when it was time to say goodbye.’’ Hello, Roy Jones, Jr.
Jones is 5-5 since 2004 and has been knocked out three times. He’s lost every fight against a truly competitive opponent since the night he beat John Ruiz to win the WBA heavyweight title, his wins coming against guys more washed up than he is like Felix Trinidad and Jeff Lacy or against guys who never were. Joe Calzaghe left him bloodied and badly beaten. Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson knocked him stiff. Now it is the 36-year-old Green, who frankly isn’t even in the same discussion with Tarver and Johnson, two guys who wouldn’t have been in the discussion with Jones a few years ago.
“I feel almost bad doing that to someone whom I aspired to look up to as a professional fighter inside and outside the ring,’’ the seemingly embarrassed Green (28-3) said after the fight.
He shouldn’t. Jones got what he asked for. He got embarrassed because, as usual, he wouldn’t listen to anyone, including his long-time trainer and friend, Alton Merkerson.
That embarrassment was his fate certainly seems justified because Jones embarrassed many over-matched opponents when he was at the height of his powers. Few fighters of such high stature treated opponents as lowly as he often did, seeming to revel in making a fool out of journeymen while steadfastly avoiding guys like the long undefeated Dariusz Michalczewski or Hopkins, whom Jones beat by decision in a lack luster affair on May 22, 1993 at RFK Stadium in Washington for the then vacant IBF middleweight title.
Frankly that night both guys stunk, each having far too much respect for the other to turn things into a fight. It was an affair that cried out for a better ending and for years after Hopkins chased Jones but never could get him back in the ring. That was Jones, more elusive and illusory than the kind of fighter you fall in love with.
He may have been the best of his generation but he didn’t make good fights and he never seemed to want to know how good he really was in the way great champions like Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler and all the greatest boxers did. Had he been around when Hagler was you can count on one thing – Jones never would have gotten in the ring with him.
Jones was a businessman more than a boxer, a guy who took fights against every form of municipal employee and called them title fights because HBO let him get away with it.
He fought a cop, a teacher, a mailman, a garbage truck driver. There was probably a cabbie or a bus driver in there too but memory fades. This week so did Jones, a process that has been ongoing since Antonio Tarver first knocked him cold.
Jones was always technically flawed but his physical gifts were such that it didn’t matter. He could carry his left hand by his kneecap and get away with it because of his speed, balance, hand-and-eye coordination, agility and the fact he was always in shape, which was one thing he should be admired for.
Ali was the same way but Ali also was blessed with an iron jaw so when his flaws began to show he was still able to triumph over them by his willingness to absorb punishment, as in his last fight with Joe Frazier in Manila. Jones wanted no part of that kind of fight but when his skills began to slip he wasn't so lucky as Ali. When he began to get hit by punches he used to slip, he fell down.
It happened again in Australia in a packed arena but so far away you have to look on YouTube to see it. If you were ever a fan of Roy Jones Jr. do yourself a favor and don’t bother. Who wants to be sad before Christmas?
His left hand slung way too low as always, Jones got caught retreating, which he’s done a lot of in recent years. Green’s right hand shot over his low-slung left and clipped him behind the ear and he went down like he was a piece of china someone knocked off the table. He didn’t fall so much as collapse, tipping over on his shoulder on the canvas before righting himself and then pulling himself up with blind resolve, all the fight in him left on the floor.
From that moment on, Roy Jones Jr. was buffeted from pillar to post. Green was so lacking in skills that he never fully took advantage of the situation but that was actually good because regardless of what you think of Jones or how he arrogantly conducted himself most of his career it would have been a shame if it ended with him lying at the feet of Danny Green.
If nothing else he avoided that fate and, perhaps fittingly, something else as well. With that loss Roy Jones Jr. did what he’d been doing for 17 years. He avoided Bernard Hopkins once again. Considering how long he ducked him, maybe that was how it should have ended for him.
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Jason:
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Roy's career has been over since the Glen Johnson emphatic KO loss 5 years ago. I was always shocked that Jones was taken seriously after the worst performance of his career -the 3rd Tarver fight- in which Jones openly admitted that he fought only to survive, as he wanted to finish his career on his feet and not on his back. But the boxing public has a short memory -indeed, an AMNESIAC memory- and believed that his beating a fat Trinidad at 170 and a couple of handpicked no-name journeymen meant he was back. Lo and behold, Calzaghe-Jones was born on PPV. Incredible. I didn't buy that one. And it is sad, because his legacy is so tainted that he's now known more for who he didn't fight than for what he did in the ring. It's tragic, at least in boxing history's eyes.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 08:08:37 PM
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Radam G - Jones Jr will be back:
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Duperman -- I mean Superman -- Roy Jones Jr will be back. He is too stubborn to accept failure. He is going to convince himself that he just got caught, and that the ref stopped the bout too quickly. Maybe so. Until RJJ get kayoed in the fashion that it was against Tarver and Johnson, he will be back. Maybe he won't fight B-Hop, but he will be fighting some bum for $150,000 before the end of 2010.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 08:21:14 PM
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Steve:
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Your article was written like a true hater and the bias was very clear. You go on and on about Jones avoiding fights as if he were Mayweather Jr, yet the only two names you can mention are Hopkins and Darius M. To mention Hopkins is ridiculous considering he already beat Hopkins and Hopkins never made any attempt to campaign in Jones' division and force a rematch. Hopkins needed the rematch not Jones. To mention Darius M and blame the fight not happening on Jones is also ridiculous because Darius M never wanted to leave Europe and the consensus man in the division was Jones. Why should Jones have been chasing Darius M? Jones took out the very best in every division he campaigned in save heavyweight. How can you hate on that?
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 08:42:13 PM
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jamie:
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could not believe that bookies had Green at such big odds....eveyone got carried away with Roys last win over a midget in Lacey...Green was always going to be a problem as he was the much bigger man wirh a much bigger bang than most of Roys recent opponents
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 10:06:29 PM
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Chrisweezy:
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Let's see u travel over sea and fight in a crowd that wants to see u beating down and a ref who prolly facets Danny green.Roy new he was gonn have to fight and they didn't give him the chance it's a fuc.ing title fight not an amuter fight .I bet u give him a rematch here in the US he'd beat the crap outa Danny green.did they call the calzaghe fight in the first round when jones knocked him down in the first round no cause fans like me wanna see a fight and we did.jus not in the green fight. As a writer u shouldn't put ur personal thoughts into ur writing.ur a chump jus like green and the homo ref
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 10:15:58 PM
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James Smith:
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Ron,
You've lost your mind! Danny Green is among the better 168/175 fighters of this generation, and your biased to American fighters is quite apparent. You have no idea about Green, but the guy is a megastar in Australia, generating millions in PPV, and is also very well known throughout Europe. Jones received $3-5 million to go to Australia. And yea, his punch resistance isn't there anymore, but don't put down the Australian. Just because you're too ignorant to recognize the achievements foreign fighters, don't paint them as inept.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 11:21:31 PM
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Vlad:
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To the Author, you mention how bad Roy Jones was. Or should we pay credit to how good Danny Green was & is. You writting is typical American bias against overseas fighters & you be little Green's great win. When Roy Jones beat Jeff Lacey a few months ago, everyone said Jones is back to his best. WOW! Then he comes down under & gets creamed by a very tough & dangerous Danny Green within 1 round. Dont take anything away from Green, it wasn't the case of Roy being bad, it was Green just being too good for the 8 x World champ.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 12:02:26 AM
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Sorry Ron but I'm afraid you were blinded by bias. Danny Green attacked with controlled fury - whacking Roy's head and then his body, with both hands, when Roy covered up. Green, who I'd never seen until this fight, hit every part of his Royness that was abvailable to him - without flailing and with excellent balance - until the ref had no choice other than to stop the contest. Green is not an will never be as special as Jones Jr. but he demonstarted that he is a solid, powerful professional fighter and deserves as much praise as Jones deserves pleas to retire.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 12:06:53 AM
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Ben:
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just another critic who has never laced up gloves...find something you know about to write about idiot
Friday Dec 4, 2009 12:17:56 AM
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Fe'Roz :
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When roy fought we all watched in amazement. All of us. He was not continuously plagued by accusations of avoiding fighters; at least not fighters that the public was interested in seeing him fight. The man was dazzling. A treat to watch. He had speed, power and showmanship. We watched to see the Roy Jones Jr show. A one man show. Suggesting that the boxing public was demanding he fight Darius Michalczewski or Hopkins is pure revisionism. No one cared.... except DM and Bernard. It was Tarver's stunning KO that rightfully opened the door to criticism that has grown ever louder. Roy was exposed. What looked like a lucky but devastating shot by Tarver quickly and forever changed the arc of Roy's career and the public's perception. Roy was flawed. His chin was fragile. He was tentative if not scared to get hit. All of that was unfortunately true. But before Tarver, there was only one fighter like Roy. He will always be one of my favorites. A great athlete who never came to the ring in anything less than ultimate shape, who enjoyed himself at work. That Roy Jones Jr was peerless.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 12:21:47 AM
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Guys let's be real, roy jones was a paper champ he gravytrained hbo with all these fights with a buncha johny come latelies and look were he ended up. He was to ignorant and arrogant for his own good you can count the quality fighters he fought in their prime with one hand. He got what he deserved. Good ridance roy you were boxing toy.peace out.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 12:37:25 AM
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Isaiah:
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Roy is finished. Should he fight on? NO! Will he fight on? I can't say.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 01:53:19 AM
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Nigel B:
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Mate - what fight were you watching??? Danny Green is very very tough and if he fights BHOP - then BHOP will go out the same way in less than 3 rounds. Watch this space - Danny Green is very very good and will do us all a favour and go around putting to sleep all the old timers who should have been put to pasture a decade ago.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 02:58:12 AM
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MIke M:
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This article is freaking joke. To disrespect Danny Green like that shows you don't know crap about boxing. Roy Jones definitely slipped but Green is a top light heavyweight, Roy was getting rocked by tight combinations once he got up. Green would match up well with either Tarver or Johnson and be a live dog against Dawson. Roy should hang them up but he always showed up and suited up for us in the ring. The way you mail in your articles lately you should consider joining him.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 03:17:44 AM
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great post Fe'Roz,.. It was interesting what you said about the chin,... I'm not suggesting for a second that Roy had a granite chin,.. but after a certain point in his career,.. Roy became like those women who don't want to throw away that size twelve dress,.. even though they actually wear a size 16,.. they still try to wear the size 12 dress,..all the while convincing herself that she still looks as pretty and petite as she did 10 years ago,.. she'll never go on a diet,.. or even excercise,.. but she still believes she can wear that dress... At some point in Roys career,... his extracuricular activities started overriding his priorities as a boxer,.. he was always in music videos,.. mingling with hollywood,..even had a bit part in the matrix,..fired his dad who provided much of the discipline in Roys training regimine,.. and went about the business of being a celebrity instead of a fighter... I'm not saying that he ever had a good chin,.. but his conditioning was such that it compensated for his deficiencies,.. after he lost his focus, priorities and discipline,.. he lost his chin... and once it leaves,... you can't get it back...
Friday Dec 4, 2009 03:19:58 AM
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michelle:
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Not sure why, the denigration of Green. He is one tough MF, my money would be on him beating tarver.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 04:08:32 AM
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ian webber:
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What a bias load of crap, to even compare Dariusz to jones in his peak is a load of crap. I certainly have never heard of a push for jones to fight Dariusz. What a stupid comment that jones didnt seem to challenge himself did'nt this middleweight fight a beat the world heavyweight champion. Unfortunitly at 41 his reflexes are not as superhuman as they were and Danny Green will knock out anyone he hits clean. This was a great win for Danny and a very sad night for Roy. Australia is very proud of Danny Green but we also loved Roy, a superstar in and out of the ring. I'll pick Green to knock out Hopkins.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 04:45:29 AM
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jo:
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roy is too old and past his age of boxing. he plays for cash. green is rubbish. not good enough. he is for his home town fight to win.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 05:21:17 AM
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Keiran Doherty:
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RJJ hadn't even warmed up as he came into the ring. He didn't seem to have a drop of sweat on him, he was 'cold' which is a big mistake against a puncher such as Green. It was disappointing, but I think he is too hardheaded to retire right now, he may ask for a rematch...
Friday Dec 4, 2009 06:58:40 AM
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Alokwe:
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Wow, a Jones-Hopkins REMATCH should have happened SEVENTEEN years ago according to Borges despite the fact the first one actually happened SIXTEEN years back. Just wow! Perhaps Borges should be thinking of waving the sport bye-bye as well, eh? Seems like he's shot as well.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 09:29:34 AM
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The author is a bias moron in my opinion. The whole purpose of the article was to try and downplay Roy's career accomplishments due to some kind of personal dislike. Is this what boxing journalism has come to? Somebody needs to go take some notes from ESPN anylist Dan Rafael. There is no way to say Roy avoided challenges when he beat the best SMW after moving up in weight after beating Hopkins, who incidently, didn't lose again until ten+ years later. Then moving up in weight and almost imediately unifying the titles that were available without waiting ten years to do so. How do you avoid a guy you already dominated with an injured hand? Roy knew the score, he didn't need Hopkins who he already easily beat and Bernard wasn't worthy of the fight because he wouldn't take less money than Roy when he not only lost to him but was moving up in weight to try and dethrone the P4P champ at his weight. That's like Marquez wanting to rematch Manny but not accepting a lesser share of the purse and expecting the fight to happen. Do you remember the famous " 60-40 I beat yo a** ", saying? Get real and stop writing ridiculous articles like this that portray your personal feelings. Btw, was the first fight win over Tarver not against a ''truly competitive opponent''? Or did you forget that one somehow? It was obvious Roy was not the same fighter that he was prior to the move to heavyweight and it was his last hurrah when he sucked it up and beat the younger and a lot hungrier Tarver anyways, The Ruiz fight was his last truly great performance and anyone with sense knows that Jones' legacy was sealed with that win and nothing that happened after he moved back down to LHW counts for anything against his all time status. Beating an old and long faded Ali was a signature win for Spinx, Holmes and Berbick but that in no way or form ever means that they were better and that Ali wouldn't have toyed with them at his best.
Good bye Roy. Thanks for the memories SUPERMAN.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 10:43:28 AM
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aljamieson:
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Fe'Roz said it all and said it best.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 10:47:43 AM
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Matthew:
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I could just be me, but I thought Jones looked a little bit soft in the middle in that fight. It was surprising, considering he has always come into every fight in top condition. Regardless, he should have retired after Glen Johnson layed him out 5 years ago. Even though he is a sure fire Hall of Famer, his career to me is still somewhat of a disappointment. He was probably one of the 5 most talented boxers ever to lace up the gloves, yet he was always reluctant to take on the best in the sport. He should get credit for beating Toney and Hopkins, but he ducked Benn, Michaelczewski, and many other deserving fighters, and should have given Hopkins a rematch long ago (although Bernard defintely priced himself out of the fight at least once). The fact of the matter is that given his prodigious talent, he could have accomplished a lot more. I hope he finally sees the light and hangs 'em up.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 11:34:06 AM
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The Saint:
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@Steve: This was an excellent, excellent article that hits the nail right on the head. Jones was a once in a lifetime phenomenon but he wasted his talent against C-level opponents, unwilling to test his mettle against the best. Yes there was Darius M and B-Hop, but there was also James Toney, Gerald McClellan and even a post-prime Michael Nunn. Also, it doesn't take a laundry list of fighters to seal one's legacy. Had Ali avoided Frazier and Foreman, nobody would consider Ali to be one of the greatest. It doesn't take too many names so when you say it was "only" Darius M or a rematch with Hopkins that RJJ avoided, that's like saying Leonard avoided "only" Marvin Hagler or Thomas Hearns. Hopkins, to his credit, stayed a middleweight for over a decade and cleaned out the division. RJJ moved up two weightclasses to avoid the stiffest competition in the middleweight and supermiddleweight class. He could've fought Joe Calzaghe and Antonio Tarver back in 2001-2002 during the height of RJJ's powers, and probably would've made beaten those guys easily. But RJJ didn't want to take risks and ended up fighting those guys when he was past his prime, and deservedly so. He beat a green, pre-prime Hopkins and a drained Toney. When he moved up to heavyweight he challenged the weakest, dumbest heavyweight champion available.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 11:38:13 AM
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LEON:
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Didn't even bother reading past the 1st sentence. If you saw the fight you would know Jones wasn't on his back.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 01:03:00 PM
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Rich:
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Ali was "blessed" with an iron jaw??? Ask Ali now how he feels about that "blessing"....I'm not saying he didn't have an iron jaw, I just feel he would have been better served going down in a couple of his last fights. He absorbed more punishment than any human being should ever absorb. Thankfully that is not what happened with Roy!
Friday Dec 4, 2009 01:39:45 PM
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...Steve Collins, Frankie Liles...
Friday Dec 4, 2009 02:42:28 PM
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Anony:
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PEOPLE HERE ARE GETTING TICKED OFF TOO QUICK... chill out Aussies!!!! what I believe Mr. Borges is trying to say is that Green didn't land consecutive coordinated punches on Jones after the knockdown because Jones was covering all up not offering resistance... it is not that Green is not a fine boxer. He is reffering to the heat of the moment. Anyways... I believe Roy should hang them and be cool about it... I mean, he got 3-4 millions out of this fight??? at 40 years old that seems a GREAT PAYDAY... BUT if he and Bernard wants to square it off... let them beeeeeeeee pleaseeeeeee...
Friday Dec 4, 2009 03:29:10 PM
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beatemup:
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Steve Fe'Roz Brownsugar I respect they way you all commented on this article...Pure hate by by a Roy Jones fan thats in more denial as my boy Roy...The points you maade BS were exactly on point...He is my homie...Boxing became 2nd & 3rd then 4th & 5th...So he has to reflect on that and I guess continue to live on because he was and will always be one of the most exciting boxers in history...His opponents uset to come watch him fight thats why the couldn't win around...Tryna watch him...If you are a fighter you are supposed to respect what could happen not what happened already and go for the gusto...Ron I will appreciate it if you didn't hate so...You winn the "I miss when Roy was Roy so much I hate him now" Award! BEATEMUP!! I Said it!!!!!!
Friday Dec 4, 2009 04:14:24 PM
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bill major:
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he was shot from the weight gain and God knows what else he did to his body for the ruiz fight. he was just as grand before that bout.he didnt have to do what he did for ruiz but he thought so i guess. you cant do that type of thing to yourself then rocket back done to your regular fighting weight.it leaves you drained and for roy it just ruined him.i agree with fer 'oz on darius & b hop.nobody cared. he fought alot better opponents than mayweather,thats for sure.
Friday Dec 4, 2009 09:30:37 PM
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Steve:
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Green tries to fights guys mostly that have god reps but several losses and are towards the end of their career. Reading the papers in Australia you would think Green just beat the current P4P king. RJJ was shot when he walked into the ring and Green is no more than a good (not great) fighter that has been troubled eveytime the competition has been raised. Green also has a habit (that the press assist him with) where he talks absolute rubbish about his motives and achievements - when I last travelled to Oz, it was truly amazing how may people in Australia beleived he didnt headbutt Beyer in their 1st fight (when he did), how many people thnk Mundine chased Green when Green actually called Mundine out after all his fights and then got flogged for it... I have never read so much BS from 1 fighter and his team as that from Green. The guy even got flogged (stopped) at the olympics by Lebsiak and then called himself the champion, likewise when he was only the interim champion he had "world champion" on his website until everyone found out. Let him fight Chad Dawson.
Saturday Dec 5, 2009 12:52:30 AM
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Isaiah:
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Umm... Exscuse me! I did care years ago about Roy Jones never fighting Darius or rematching B-Hop. Some of us really paid attention to these details and favored to win or not, they were SERIOUS threats to him. To paraphrase you know who, "YA'ALL MUSTA FORGOT!!!" HA!
Saturday Dec 5, 2009 01:37:32 AM
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Scott M:
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Roy Jones was perhaps the most athletically gifted man ever to lace up a pair of boxing gloves. He was never a technically sound boxer, because, while he was in his prime, he didn't have to be. He had the most amazing handspeed and reflexes that I've ever seen, and an innate sense of what was coming at him before it did. At his very best, Roy's talent was breathtaking. Roy was a 4 division titlist, was voted "Best Fighter" by The Ring magazine's annual poll many more times than any other fighter since the polls began, (I believe it was 10 times- Hagler was voted best fighter 3 times, if memory serves me correct) and he was voted by fight writers to be the greatest fighter of the 1990's. I'll agree that he was a businessman before a fighter, the same way that Mayweather is today, and this may have detracted from what should have been an even more impressive career. But, as much as we, the fans, hate to admit it, boxing is a business. People harped on Mayweather for not fighting a tough fighter like Cotto, but Mayweather made much more facing DeLahoya. More money, less risk. That doesn't mean he was afraid to fight Cotto, it was just the best deal from a business standpoint. Does anyone really believe that Cotto could really beat Mayweather now? It was the same way with Roy. His experience in the Olympics left a bad taste in his mouth. He didn't want to fight in Europe because he was robbed by foreign judges before. He wasn't afraid of Michelzewski. DM was a tough guy (like Cotto) but, in my opinion, wouldn't have been much of a threat to a prime RJ. When Roy was at his best, no one could touch him. We all see a 40 year old fighter lose badly, but some of us don't recall just how gifted the man was in his prime. Ray Leonard was stopped by Hector Camacho at the end of his career. Ray Robinson lost many times late in his career to men who he would have beaten easily in his prime. I personally believe a prime Roy Jones would have given any fighter in history (in or around his weight division) fits, because of his speed, reflexes, and unorthodox style. Speed kills in boxing. Billy Conn's lightning fast hands gave the great Joe Louis all he could handle (until he stupidly decided to stand and trade punches with Joe) and Roy would have posed a similar threat/ puzzle for history's greatest fighters. Say what you want, he's a Hall Of Famer, and he's earned it.
Saturday Dec 5, 2009 03:12:32 PM
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Paul:
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Why bag Jones or Green? Jones is an all time great and Green is a solid Light Heavy contender, who has a punchers chance against anyone in that division. Jones looked great against Lacy and had moments with Calzaghe. And Green is a very rough tough pressure fighter with good power. I love boxing and can't for the life of me understand why some writers and posters have to bag fighters. This is what is ruining boxing today, constant unfounded criticism instead of positive articles. Best of luck to Jones and Green with what ever they decide and to all the critics if you don't like the sport leave.
Saturday Dec 5, 2009 04:08:34 PM
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Beatemup:
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Well spoken Paul...These boxers risk their lives for the itch that they have and the are willing to give us full frontal view...Some of you haters wouldn't fight nothing in your own house much less on the big stage...It happens and it will continue......Especially on march 13th....Yea! FMM!!
Tuesday Dec 8, 2009 04:45:38 PM
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Steve P:
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I must admit I was a little shocked to see that this piece was written by Ron Borges. Unlike much of Borges' writing, the bias seeps through here in almost every paragraph. Technically flawed-I suppose so if keeping your left hand low qualifies you for that particular criticism. Though I don't know how many technically flawed fighters struck with the precision Roy did, moved with as much fluidity or avoided punches so adroitly.
Jones fought some weak opponents, yet he dominated three divisions and his victory over Ruiz (the first and possibly only time we will ever see a former Middleweight champion win a portion of the Heavyweight title) was a staggering display of technical virtuoisty.
Jones handily defeated Hopkins for the IBF Middleweight title. With Bernard entrenched at 160 and showing no signs of moving up how can Jones be fairly criticised for not persuing a rematch?
Roy could be a reluctant warrior, but his most convincing wins were masterclasses in precision and power. Ring Magazine voted him the fighter of the decade, which counts for something. Certainly their endorsement is more reflective of his overall contribution to the sport than Ron's hatchet job here. To younger fans who never saw Jones fight in his prime I recommend the second Griffin fight on You Tube. Reading this you would think Jones was a talentless bumb, rather than one of the most naturally gifted fighters ever.
Accusations of cherry picking fog many top champions (take a bow Floyd) yet a little more balance in this piece would have added to its weight and authority. To be fair I feel like writing a more balanced retrospective myself after wading through this diatribe. We should be celebrating his career (though its end has been long overdue as Roy fights on well into his fistic dotage); boxing needs superstars now more than ever. We should treat those who thrilled and entertained us with a little more respect.
Saturday Dec 19, 2009 08:09:58 PM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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