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Manny Pacquiao Announces Second Congressional Bid
By Michael Woods
Manny Pacquiao, not one to be put off by a daunting challenge, has announced he is running for Congress in the Phillipines.
Pacquiao, who turns 31 on Dec. 17, claimed his seventh world boxing title in seven different weight classes when he dissected Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14 to win the WBO's welterweight crown. This entry into the political sphere figures to be a more arduous trek, considering his first foray into politics ended in defeat. He finished second in a 2007 race to be a district representative of South Cotabato in 2007 and came in second to Darlene Antonino-Custodio. A large segment of voters felt that he should stick to doing what he does best, and not muddy himself in a business even more seedy and complex than the fight game. Also, Custodio had a sturdy, entrenched machine in place to smack down the popular but politically green Pacman.
The election for the Sarangani Province congressional seat takes place on May 10, 2010. Pacquiao is vying for the slot as part of his own People's Champ Movement party.
Fight fans are wondering how this move will affect the fighter's schedule.
So is his promoter, Bob Arum.
Arum boarded a plan on Tuesday to fly to the Phillipines to get a sitdown with Manny, to see how the boxer is planning to juggle politics and pugilism.
So, how will Pacman fare in his second political head-to-head? He is slated to take on shipping biggie Roy Chiongbian, of the influential Chiongbian family, whose father is currently a representative there, and whose mother also held elected office. Like Custodio, he will be armed with a well-oiled campaign machine, and won't be an easy foe to steamroll for the political neophyte.
Pacman told the press as he filed his bid, "I want only good things for Sarangani. I will work for children, for the health of our countrymen and for their livelihood."
Arum will likely press for a Pacman-Mayweather bout before the May 10 elections, but one wonders if Manny will be able to adequately ready himself for Mayweather while campaigning. I am dubious, and wonder if a fall date with Mayweather isn't the wiser option.
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ROBERT:
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pac should stick to boxing, he should not follow in the footsteps of previous philliphines leaders, first they are movie stars and celibrities then they become president of the country, can you imagine shaq or tiger as our president? huh
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 03:25:47 PM
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GOAT:
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Pac;s build in excuse when he loses to PBF. Man the f*ck up Pac and get ready for the GOAT PBF!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 03:37:27 PM
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@Robert:
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I can't see Shaq or Tiger as president. But I couldn't see The Terminator as Governor of California either.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 03:38:10 PM
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SALT lover@GOAT:
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LOL!!!! No, no, no GOAT don't say that. Remember it's Pacquiao. If he walks away from the fight, he's doing what he must and he's letting the "pot stew get hotter" for the fight with Floyd HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Now, on the other hand, if it was Floyd saying that he's going to do something else before fighting, TSS wouldn't have enough space to hold all the attacks and insults against him. But it's Pacquiao, so he's "not running away" form the fight LOL!!!!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 03:57:59 PM
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deepwater:
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stick to boxing right now pacman plenty of time to be a fat cat politician later on
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 03:58:55 PM
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SALT lover:
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Oh and just in case people! Mayweather's not the only one who wants May as the date of the fight. Arum and Roach both want that date too. Arum for promotional purposes, and Roach cuz he said he wanted Pacquiao to fully heal his ear from the Cotto fight. Don't come now and say "Floyd's running away again, blah, blah, blah..." Cuz the article of the one here mentioning OTHER plans is Pacquiao.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 04:05:00 PM
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SALT lover:
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...And I gotta hit the road! Be back in a couple hours! Sike!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 04:05:56 PM
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Radam G:
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Considered the greatest Prez in U.S. history, Reagon was a college football player, a minor league baseballer and a movie star then he became president of the country. A US Senator who is a HOF Basketballer ran for the Presidency for 2008. Yes! I can imagine "Shaq" or "Tiger" as our (since I'm also a US citizen) president." Factcheck! Instead of assuming and placing what should be on a person. PacMan is going to knock out Money May as soon as the money man grows some cojones. When PacMan whups Lil' Floyd, I can see the urbanites and Lil Floyd claiming that he was robbed because he is "BLACK!" And "nobody wants a black man to be the best or undefeated." I can see clearly this writing on the WALL! Eastar, where are you? Holla!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 04:05:59 PM
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ultimoshogun:
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Although I wish elite level fighters would stick to what they do best...I don't see politics being a distraction or disadvantage for Pacquiao. One of my favorite K-1/MMA fighters, Mirko Crocop, served in the Croation Parliament for four years while being one of the most active fighters during that span and put up an 18-6 record.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 04:32:24 PM
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deepwater:
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would pacman send 40,000 troops to afganistan after he said he would end the war? if no elect that man!lol
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 04:45:06 PM
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brownsugar:
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I Thought what Bhop said about Mayweather on Blog talk radio "On the Ropes: episode 49",.. and what Andre Ward and Nate Campbell said (concerning the same subject)on episode 50 to be very interesting,.. when stand out boxers speak,.. (the ones who don't hype the band),.. I don't feel that I have to take it with a grain of salt...(no offence Salt Lover,.. that comment was not meant for you)
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 05:02:35 PM
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SALT lover :
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I got one more hour free to be here............so fire away anybody.....
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 05:04:05 PM
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deepwater at radam:
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reagan the best pres? andrew jackson and george washington baby! one forged our country ,the other one defended it against the international bankers. the same bankers of today that ruined our dollar. if you like worthless peices of paper go with money floyd mayweather. if you like gold go with pacman. gold is from g-d ,the dollar created out of thin air from the printing press backed by nothing.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 05:24:16 PM
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Big Daddy's BACK:
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I'm Your Huckleberry, Radam Gibberish. Back to Step on Your Toes and Laugh at your Brain Drained Prose. BTW, This Big Heart Breaker is going up to Tahoe this weekend to Tie the Knot with my Blue Blooded ( Her family's known in the Pi) , Drop-Dead Gorgeous, Light Skinned Mestiza Filipina Bride to Be.. Don't Hate. Anyway's... Manny needs to give up his dream of being a small time politician ( He's already lost before) and go for the Presidential Palace AFTER he retires. But right now the World demands Manny vs. Floyd ASAP. Preferably, on May 1st in Vegas because I wanna go.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 06:27:39 PM
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betz:
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Bad are politics in the Philippines and everytime i heard manny will be entering politics i felt discourage of this man called hero in the Philippines.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 06:37:49 PM
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Huckleberry:
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Shoo! A bum daddy has returned! Oh well!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 07:16:50 PM
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kountedout@salt lover:
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I agree with you if floyd said he had something else to do then he would get blasted by the manny fanatics. where are all the comments because they are embarrassed for making those outlandish statements of how great manny is. hes a phoney and now its judgement day and he wants to run. he is now called Matrix Manny he trying to do every move in the book to dodge floyd.....hahahahaha
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 08:48:46 PM
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CADOSKI:
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pbf is really a GOAT HE CANT KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:11:02 PM
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chip:
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one can say pac as green and out of place in politics.
then again, philippines politics could do well with men like him. just search for 'maguindanao massacre' in reference to the Ampatuans, a regional political POWER house.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:13:01 PM
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RAA:
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The difference between Floyd and Manny is that Manny has not had a history of dodging first rate opponents. In his rise to boxing superstardom, Manny has faced boxers who are sure to become Hall of Famers - Barrera, Morales, Marquez, De la Hoya and Hatton. Sure, many are now saying that de la Hoya was a spent force when he fought Manny, but thats not wat people were saying BEFORE manny faced de la Hoya and won. In fact the betting odds before that fight were heavily in favor of de la Hoya and pundits hardly gave the Packman a chance - how they've shifted opinions after Pacman's rout of the boxing superstar.
Again BEFORE the Cotto fight and long before people began to clamor for a Pacquiao-Maywheather fight, Pacquiao has been saying that he will be running for the congressional seat in May, 2010. To qualify for that seat, he had to register as a voter and assume actual residence in the area one year before May, 2010 - thats before Pacquio's manager, Bob Arum even conceived of a Pacquiao Cotto fight.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:13:07 PM
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doubletangoromeo:
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the thing is...pacman is surroundd by ppol who knows nothin but to ingratiate themselves w/him, irregardless if it goes against their decency, i mean they all just want to have a share of the money pacman earned, thats how it goes here in my country. and in the process if pacman wins, these same ppol will eventually destroy manny's name, they will use him for their corrupt agenda as sure as the sun rises from the east.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:18:43 PM
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dondon galing:
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Mayweather is going to get ktfo. Congressman Manny is going to beat gangsta May's a$$. Haters always talk big before the a$$ whoopin' and then comes the excuses. Manny is going to be the first congressman to knock off a gangsta wannabe with tax problems and don't know how to manage his money. Mayweather is already money broke. When he dances with Manny, he will be a bag of broken bones and his nuthuggers will have broken hearts and more excuses.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:20:40 PM
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Vincent Ogawa:
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Much success to you Manny, I wish you the best! What he is trying to do is much bigger than the Sports! I would rather be Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Cesar Chavez, Nelson Mandela or a man for the people than anything else in this world!!
Ronald Reagan nah he isn't the best president every. I have two names for you Freeway Rick Ross and Oliver North and the Iran-
Contras. Shame, Shame, Shame, where was Rick Ross getting his cocaine from so he could create ready rock aka Crack Cocaine? Well ask Ronald Reagan he will tell you. Andrew Jackson, nah especially the way he removed the Native Americans, read some of the first hand accounts from the people, some of it was on some Nazi Germany type ish. However I will give you George Washington!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:37:59 PM
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junicks:
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Yeah! he should run as a congressman! He should be! Its now time for total change! " Manny for Congressman!"
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:38:46 PM
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junicks:
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Manny will fight the "crying goat" anytime! its not Manny making an excuse! its the MAYWEATHERS!
Manny for Congressman!
He even doesnt need to campaign. Everybody in Philippines knows him.
Lot of dumb people here!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:43:49 PM
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lil brown penoy:
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money can continue his career to wrestling and continue his 40-0 record.
While Manny can continue his fight in political arena rather than in boxing arena.
THIS IS THE PATH OF TWO GREAT FIGHTER IN THE NEAR FUTURE. So stop your delision of Manny vs. Floyd fight, IT will never happened. Trust me.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 09:46:37 PM
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MisterLee:
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Manny made Wapakman while preparing for cotto, survived a typhoon, and had a concert the same night after defeating Cotto... so if anything else, like they been saying all along, he's finding "good balance" outside the ring, which is what Floyd lacked when he retired at his peak (the world was at his feet, he had two mega fights with hatton and de la hoya, he was decently popular in the boxing world without having to talk trash or build himself up, and he coulda fought anyone for 3-4 more years and been the next golden boy, did he? NOPE!) . So yeah, manny ran last time, had a lousy tune up fight, then fought barrera or marquez next, then moved up and fought diaz... yes the tune up fight sucked, but he found his focus again. Manny's made millions, he just fought the toughest fight of his career, he's only 31, and he can afford to spread out while his prime is simmering without worry of burning out. I'd say, what he does is healthy, who are we to judge what a young man in his prime chooses to do in his life? Are you guys inferring he'd make a bad politician? Perhaps he could make some change, and if that's what he decides to do with his life, who are we to judge? I think his development as a human being overrides the need to be the best fighter he can be, at least for the time being. Holler! Has he even shown up to a big fight unprepared? Was he too loose, too confident for cotto? Were qualms in his camp gonna break his concentration? Was making Wapakman film gonna keep him from doing well on cotto? Or the typhoon? Or his bad karaoke singing? See? The guy is enjoying life and pursuing other interests. Holler! Wow man, the floyd fan club has grown to 7. GOod luck guys, once another legend is topple, pple will wander the streets aimlessly wihtout awareness of time, space, or where that shoulder roll went... yep.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 10:14:56 PM
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kountedout:
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floyd is going to be matrix manny so bad that jinkee will leave him before he has another affair. let matrix manny do his political junk after he get beat. i dont care if bugs bunny was running for congress in the Philippines. all i want to see is floyd beat the living mess out of matrix manny. floyd is ready to get it done and matrix manny is hiding. i know he would rather fight yuri foreman for his meaningless titles. matrix manny should be embarrassed entertaining the idea of fighting yuri, they would step up to fight yuri but wouldnt fight cotto at 147.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 10:43:40 PM
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etcetera:
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dude's pacman is up against a very toug oponent in saranggani. i smell defeat but his time not by a landslide.
ansay, so heloses the campaign and get s back to boxing relaly angry and beats whoever arum tosses into the ring (monkeyweather, foreman, mosley etc..)
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 11:02:40 PM
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MisterLee:
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Where you at SmileyC? I need some humor and some truth! Also need another desk reference for sure'!
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 11:20:18 PM
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kountedout:
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this is on other sights. floyd will beat matrix manny even if hes on roids. if this is true all of his meaningless titles will have an asterisk* next to them. defend this manny matrix fanatics. floyd has never been accused of steroids. only thing he has been accused of is to skillfull. Leak in the camps: Two of boxing’s top echelon fighters, two of the sport’s “good guys” are cheaters! … by Michael Palitoni
Shane Mosley only got busted because his name was on the B.A.L.C.O. client list, not that he ever got caught dirty so with proof and paper work proving Mosley’s guilt he had no other recourse but to admit his part in the B.A.L.C.O scandal. Yet, the entire boxing world looked at Mosley as one of its brightest and most likeable stars in the sport, a good guy, while in reality Shane Mosley was/is a cheater. The fight between him and Margarito was probably as fair as a fight can get, with both guys cheating; one using a performance enhancing drug that goes by the name of Maxcell, the same drug that super human fighter Manny Pacquiao uses as well. There, I said it, and now the cat is out of the box…Don’t tell me that most boxing people haven’t thought it, they have just been too afraid to say it. It’s not humanly possible for a fighter to continue to go up in weight and get stronger and faster with each rise. Let’s not forget this is the same guy who really was beaten at least once, if not twice, by Juan Manuel Marquez. And who can turn an eye to Freddie Roach, who allowed his other prized pupil, James Toney, to be caught red-handed twice using steroids. These are the same people that Manny Pacquiao has had in his camp for several years. The emergence of B.A.L.C.O. created a substance that was untraceable, thus allowing any high profile athlete willing to experiment with Maxcell to achieve success at the highest level and worry about the side effects -and possible consequences- later.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 11:33:30 PM
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The only thing worse than steroids is accusing someone, without any evidence whatsoever, of using them. I vote for a ban on both. Users and Accusers.
Tuesday Dec 1, 2009 11:46:56 PM
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kountedout:
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i agree, but dont be naive. i agree with the aricle the only reason mosley admtted it was bc he had to much paperwork and proof against him. so those are not accusers. marion jones admitted it as well bc they had paperwork and proof. are those accusers are did they expose ben johnson, shawn merriman, fernando vargas, roy jones, barry bonds, manny ramirez, james toney, rafael palmeiro, sammy sosa, tommy morrison, evander holyfield, shannon briggs, mike tyson, alex rodriguez (who denied he had never taken it and then to find out he had tested positive). they are not accusing them for no reason. floyd sr.,maglinaggi, cintron and others have said how they felt that manny is on something. freddie roach has always known about this he wont say anything bc its about the money. have you heard of the theory where theres smoke theres fire?
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:09:33 AM
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kountedout:
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you are saying this bc manny is being accused. you must be friends with manny for you to know what he is or is not doing. or are you just a fanatic. you take the enhancements bc you cant compete on that level naturally. If they said Margarito cheated all of these guys are just as bad. If this is true should there be an *asterisk next to mosley and mannys name on there titles?
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:17:10 AM
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ABRAHAM LINCOLN:
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I cannot tell a lie. Include in the talk of greatest President ME, or you must die! Quote my AK-47, nevermore...
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:30:21 AM
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Isaiah:
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It's going to be a shame if this fight doesn't get made. I mean after all, don't forget Shane Mosley people!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:31:42 AM
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boxing fan:
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Another nonsense Pacfanatics - Floydfanatics Verbal Wars! Haha! Make your fight in PPV. I'll try to invite Manny & Floyd to watch all of you fight. Very hilarious! Haha! Battle of the Nuthuggers! The Pac primitives vs The Floyd sour losers. Taking all the matters very personal.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:38:45 AM
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Fe'Roz :
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It is illegal to yell fire in a public place. It is unethical to make false and/or unsubstantiated accusations. Isaiah, this fight will absolutely happen. No doubt. As I said, let the rumors fly and the pot brew. Possible fights with either Floyd (Matthew Hatton) and/or Manny (Yuri Foreman) in March can't and/or won't stop this train. Arum, Schaefer, Ellerbe, and the two combatants know what is at stake. Until i hear otherwise, I'm still looking at March 13th... before the election...for these two to meet. If not, the it will be a fall classic.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:51:39 AM
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If anyone can do it. manny can. He run for congress before while he has a pending fight. I remember that people in the MGM grand were chanting VOTE MANNY and labeled also in the Phil. Flag. So a fight with mayweather is no different. Manny has the unusual ability to multi task. Start campaigning This december up to 1st half of February then start training until fight Night of May 1. Freddie roach said a 10 week training camp will be needed for this fight with mayweather and amir khan will be the Top sparring partner because of his speed and good jab.. In this new age manny can campaign without being physically their, he can just send video messages to his constituents and send a representative their. Manny is manny he's the most popular person in the Philippines how can't anybody know him and besides In the Philippines even a jailed politician can win in politics like Sen. Antonio Trillianes and Former Congressman Romeo Jalosjos. That's how low the politics in the Philippines is.. I hope manny doesn't oppose the May 1 fight date against mayweather..
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:57:56 AM
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Pacquiao wants to be a congressman because he knows as a politician, he can help his countrymen. He came from poverty thats why he knows & understands the feeling. Mayweather's plan is only for himself, his luxuries & his taxes. What a generous man Money May. Let them accuse Pacquiao of using steroids. That's the only excuse they can give to him for being a super human. Besides, it's not yet proven & the fact that Mosley did use steroids before did not make him superhuman. But Mayweather is a proven coward. Doesn't want to fight big challenges. Only wants to fight good small fighters with big fan bases so that he can take big money. What a smart a** coward. Mayweather is also a proven selfish. Only thinks of himself but never for the fans. These Mayweather fanatics thinks Floyd does gives s**t about them but he's doesn't. Even for a tune up fight, he wants less quality unknown british guys so he can say again that he is the best & he is the fighter the world wants to see. What high delusions of grandeur he have! He doesn't want to fight Pacquiao this March for he wants to have a tune up fight & prepare himself better because he knows what he's going into with Pacquiao. After a very long hard fight with Cotto, Pacquiao still wants to fight this March. What a man. At least Pacquiao finds bigger guys who are champions as a tune up fight in Yuri Foreman. WHAAT!!! PACQUIAO WANTS TO FIGHT BIGGER MEN FOR A TUNE UP FIGHT!!! What a fighter! He is truly the face of boxing in this era.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 01:44:34 AM
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ultimoshogun:
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Sportcenter has reported that Pacquiao and Mayweather have agreed to fight at 147lbs....still no date though. One step closer to making it happen.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 01:49:34 AM
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Radam G - ________:
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Hmm! Let the excuses start to drop. PacMan will end up on top. Money May is just a wangsta, a wannabe gangsta. The real Money May will be revealed. He is scare dizzy, and for PacMan, the victory is already sealed. The last excuse of Money May and his nuthuggers will be: "Floyd got robbed. They didn't what a (urbanite) to be pound for pound and retired undefeated." Manny will send Money May crashing. He has already said it. And told Pop Joy May that "Lil Floyd is going to taste a lot of pain. Oh, YUP! An arsewhupping he is going to gain. Holla!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 01:56:26 AM
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ultimoshogun:
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Just read on Yahoo Sports that the fight is nearly finalized for March 13th....no details on the purse split. We may not have to wait till September.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 02:03:45 AM
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pETE STEWARD:
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this man is going in the history books BIG TIME! Not just booxing history but world history he's a real historical figure....
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 02:12:22 AM
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Isaiah:
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To add my 2 cents, I just read on ESPN that although the fight is being negotiated for March 13, it could also be placed on May 1st. SHOCKINGLY! Mayweather is fine with either date. WOW! Stop the presses! Mayweather shows an act of bravery! OR... Is he just hoping that Pacquiao will of course agree to the March 13th date and not be fully healed? HMMM... If that's part of Mayweather's strategy, it won't matter. There are no exscuses. Pacman is going to knock him the heck out! Mark my words people. This time, I'm not wrong! Manny Pacquiao is going to win! You Mayweather lovers go ahead and please put down all kinds of bets! Daddy needs a car! HA! By the way, I really mean there are no exscuses. The fight is at the 147 pound weight limit and both men are bringing their A game. Speed against speed and FINALLY the day I've been waiting so long for! No race discussions. No weight talks. No nothing! I can just see it now... (Did you see that shot Manny landed on Money?! Mayweather can't get up! It's over! Manny wins! Manny wins! Mayweather loses! Mayweather has actually lost! Pacman says... Remeber kids. No one is unbeatable and this is what arrogance and love of money gets you.... MISERY.) The final chapter to this story kids before Manny retires into the Senate you ask? A gande finale with Shane Mosley of course! THE END! HA!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 03:07:43 AM
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Isaiah:
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Of course, I mean "new" car. I have A car. HA!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 03:14:27 AM
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ultimoshogun:
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I too was surprised to hear Mayweather had agreed to terms and is waiting for Pacquiao's response. I'm glad he stepped right up to the plate and didn't make things difficult.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 07:32:30 AM
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SALT lover:
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And I have been founding all over that the negotiations are almost done deal, and that FLOYD'S SIDE ALREADY HAVE AN AGREEMENT. You read that haters? Arum just finished his agreement with Floyd and his people, and now all depends on Pacquiao. So far the dumb arguments "Floyd is doing the running", "Floyd is ducking", "If the fight cancels is Floyd's fault", are fading away. Look how it was, Floyd asked May 1st as the date, Pacquiao started with his personal things and that March is the date, and FLOYD ACCEPTED!! Floyd ain't scared of NOBODY! He ain't ducking nobody, and he's not afraid of no one, you haters. And Roach even had the nerves to say that "Mayweather is not negotiating too well" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! YEAHH RIGHT!!! Floyd just accepted his part, and the fight is close to make it a reality. And as for who's gonna win, I already explained WHY, rather than say "This one is going to win", cuz that's the only thing the Pacfans/Floyd haters are saying without explaining why. I have already explain bunch of times why Floyd will school Pacquiao before tearing him apart real good and easy. Now let's wait for who? ........... let me give a clur: it ain't Floyd! LOL!!!! Let's wait for Pacquiao to accept!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 08:35:49 AM
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SALT lover:
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*let me give ou haters a clue: .....it ain't Floyd! LOL!!!!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 08:37:41 AM
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GOAT:
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Like I said earlier, Pac needs to man the f*ck up and sign the contract, PERIOD!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 08:47:02 AM
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Paclander:
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SALT lover: That's what you think that floyd is already accepting the fight? well you're mistaken Golden boy is still relaying it to floyd like arum doing to Paquiao. the condition is yet to be agreed today the ball is the court of Paquiao but Tomorrow the ball is the court of floyd that will be more difficult ... mark my word
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 10:00:05 AM
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Yuvie:
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I do think Mayweather would get a lot of negative comments if he did something similar but come on, some cats here hate Pac just to hate. I can really see Pac thinking that "Oh, how can I avoid fighting Mayweather, I know I'll go back into politics again". You guys need to get over yourselves. Mayweather fans are jealous because Floyd would never be at that level. As I've said before, as soon as Floyd retires, everyone will forget him. Whereas Pac has much bigger fish to fry than just boxing. However, being a boxing fan. There's no argument, I wanna see Pac keep on fighting.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 10:41:19 AM
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Lex:
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This fight will truly put boxing in the headlines. If only Roy Jones have won, a back to back historical fight will highlight 2010. Next year would have been a memorable year in Boxing. But well, I hope the Pacquiao - Mayweather fight will be the highest grossing PPV event in boxing. History in the making.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 11:18:13 AM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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You notice these Pac haters aint got nuttin on Manny. So they use this article as reason to blast. LMAO! Yuvie is totally spot on! They just jealous Manny is getting more props than Floyd hahahahhahaha. You'll get your judgement day Floyd fans! You can take that to the bank!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 11:21:44 AM
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MisterLee:
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Two things we can never doubt: Manny's in the ring behavior, and his choice of opponents. The rest is just "what if's, he might, he's gonna, he won't." He just fought the hardest fight of his career. Let him rest man. This is the reason Floyd retired in the first place: lack of balance... too much work and not enough play ("I been boxing since I could walk, I just needed a break... etc." ). Floyd stepped up to the plate b/c he was no longer the bigger draw and his only other option was face Sugar Shane Mosley... meaning... would you rather get a kick in the balls or kiss a man for 30 secs? :) Hard choice. I elect take a nap. Pc!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 11:49:59 AM
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Mr. Paclander, Golden Boy relying on Floyd for what?? Dude, the biggest obstacles in these negotiations was the Floyd-Arum relationship, and Floyd just made an AGREEMENT WITH ARUM! That hasn't happened ever since they broke their business relations! That by itself facilitates a whole lots of things in the making of the fight. Let's make this clear, cuz I've been readin' what you Floyd haters/Paclovers have been insinuating all this time, and specially, now Floyd has shut ya'll mouths: Everybody expected that if the fight didn't become a reality, that it was gonna be because of Floyd's fault; that Floyd was going "back up from the fight". And now Floyd just made buesiness, not with GBP, not Schaeffer, but his ARUM himself. That's Pacquiao's boss. Pacquiao demanded that the date was March, and Floyd accepted. So what you talking about GBP this or that? Floyd already made his move and he ain't backing up. The deal is almost made. Now it depends on Pacquiao.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 11:53:38 AM
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The news are circling around the internet in all places, and even people giving their props to Floyd for accepting, and you guys start with the SAME OL' "jealous" argument. Nobody here is "jealous". Pacfans ALWAYS keep mentioning "He's jealous, he's jealous, he's jealous!" NOBODY here is jealous of nobody. We're not here looking for boyfriends, nor dating people. This is boxing, not eharmony, or datefinder! Who's the greater fighter is determined in the ring, and Floyd has already accepted the terms. Now the ball in on Pacquiao....Yuvie, you're damn right if the tables would've been turned. If it was Floyd who's gonna do something else besides fighting, the written attacks against him would've been endless. But since it's the OTHER WAY AROUND, now you and #1Pacfan go off the tangent line. This is about negotiations, this ain't about how this guy or the other feels about the other.....#1Pacfan, it's not just this artcle is everywhere. Go to the internet and search your idol's name, and see for yourself. The deal is almost made and Floyd's part has been agreed. Floyd ain't duckin', nor runnin' from nobody. March 2010 it is!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:01:03 PM
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*the ball is on Pacquiao's court....
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:03:02 PM
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SALT lover@Mr. Lee:
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First of all, "let Pacquiao rest" NONTHING! He's the one who brought the March date, instead of May. He's the one who chose the fight to be earlier. And forget about Floyd retiring last year. Let's try and talk about NOW. Now is the time for the fight to be made, and we're all waiting on Pacquiao. And Floyd ain't scared of Shane Mosley. If the fight with Pacquiao was not to be made for any reason, Mosley was (And still may very well be) plan B. Even if (And when) Floyd beats Pacquiao, Mosley's next, if he beats Berto.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:05:46 PM
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*CORRECTION: First of all, "let Pacquiao rest"?
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 12:11:10 PM
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According to Pacquiao's lawyer Manny doesn't wanna fight until September. Hopefully since Mayweather is ready to go he'll accept Sugar Shane's challenge instead of fighting some chump. Mosley had stated in an interview awhile back he'd be ready to go again in April or May.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 06:19:24 PM
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aint nobody jealous or scared of manny steroid but. So manny would fight Yuri in March but not Mayweather. Man if this was the other way around it would be called ducking right? If Mayweather did this it would be ducking. As EVERYONE knows Mayweather wants to fight manny. I don't get why everyone thinks May is "ducking" when it is VERY clear as why he came out of retirement. Mayweather is willing to fight in March but not manny? Yuri is OK but not Mayweather? This is all a plan of floyds. this will be the easiest money he has ever won. who is pushing dates back until late mid 2010. hahaha blame floyd for having pacgirl running for congress. he can run all he wants. judgement day is coming!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 07:34:14 PM
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kountedout:
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floyd has agreed to either month march or may. pacgirl is behind the 8 ball. this is going to be a feast! you fanatics cant help manny when he steps in the ring with floyd. he will be alone in there. im going on record right now that floyd will not win.he is going to STOP pacgirl. once he loses to floyd pacgirl will lose every fight after that. floyd is going to ruin him
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 07:47:04 PM
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This doesn't make sense to me if it turns out that Manny doesn't wanna fight in March...You make a good point, kountedout. Why was Roach talking bout a fight with Yuri and an 8th title if they weren't ready to go? Is this an attempt to ice Floyd or did Team Pacman get cold feat when Mayweather stepped up to the plate? I'm kinda leaning towards the latter. If you choose to bluff you better be prepared to have your bluff called. It looks like Roach and Pacquiao weren't expecting Mayweather to step up so quickly.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 08:02:30 PM
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i agree with you i think its the latter. your right roach was talking about a fight in march. now floyd made it known that any month march or may was good. roach even said that floyd was tough to negotiate with. as i told a fanatic that we dont know what is said behind closed doors. roach can come out and say anything to make floyd look bad. let me get this straight now. i don't want to fight floyd in march or may but if its yuri i will. hahaha sounds like someone has gotten cold feet.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 08:54:10 PM
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to all floyd fanatics here: what ever you say & whatever fraud monkey gayweather do, he will always be behind Pacquiao in the ATG and in history. Sorry guys.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 09:22:07 PM
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Mayweather's father is already making excuses about Pretty Boy getting knocked out. Go to 8countnews and listen to a delusional dad fo' sure!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 09:48:42 PM
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SALT lover@Smiley C:
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Smiley C, Floyd Mayweather Sr. didn't made any "excuse", if you hear well, he just said something fishy is going on with Pacquiao, and he said that still whatever Pacquiao is doing (Assuming on Floyd Sr's opinion, I'm not saying he is) he ain't gonna beat Floyd, cuz Floyd's a superior skilled fighter, and I agree. Nobody here is makin' excuses, man. People please! Nobody here is "jealous", and nobody here is makin' excuses. Stop with those things already, it's getting old.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 10:27:13 PM
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Floyd Sr. told his son "not to let pacquiao hit him". that sounds like fear for sure. It's funny that pple are criticizing pacquiao when there's nothing to criticize. The guy is a gem in and out of the ring, he fights for his pple, and has quality opponents. There's this backlash from Floyd fans AFTER pacquiao just beat a guy floyd has been ducking and had no intention of fighting for the past 4 years. Mosley called out Floyd after margarito, before marquez on espn, and live right after the marquez fight. Did floyd sign? No! He's scareweather that's why! Wait long enough... marg is suspended, cotto is beat down, and mosley gets old, and williams moves up in weight, who else is there? Pacquiao and mosley are still standing, if pacquiao signs, floyd will have two "1" 's on his record, 1 loss, one TKO loss. Floyd is fighting a possible GOAT. Floyd's greatest victory can be said to be Corrales (wow! Casamayor and Clottey has beat them too, does that make them great p4p'ers? And before you site size and weight class, it' snot nearly as bad as floyd marquez, and clottey would retire marquez in 6 rounds). Or floyd's victory to marquez (who chris john beat, does that make chris john a p4p'er ?) . Anyone you tout on Floyd's resume, Cotto or Pacquiao could and would knock out with less time (Judah, Corley , hatton, de la hoya, corrales, castillo, hernandez, baldomir [he's an exception, i hear he's got one of the best chins in boxing]). Yep. Wow... after losing some of their heroes.. RJJ, Floyd, and Margarito and even a little Cotto.. nuthuggers will have to find a new hobby, like badminton, field hockey, cross dressing... I mean pacquiao's supporters are always overly patriotic, a little bit hazed in their vision (pacquiao can fly!), and out to make outrageous claims (pacquiao can take on anyone 175lbs and below!), but they're consistently crazy, and there are a few well informed supporters like #1 pacsage and Radam, that alowoke guy .. and LOTS of objective neutral boxing fans and a few leaners who are well informed, but yeah, no one's making excuses for his out of ring behaviors, nor making all his wrongs rights like nuthuggers do. Holler!
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 11:18:20 PM
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There's a Mexican saying that goes "Estas tirando puras patadas de ahogado" (You're throwing kicks while drowning underwater) Don't get mad at the fact that the argument you, the buddies you mentioned, and the majority of the Paclovers were saying that Floyd was a "ducker", and that it was he who was gonna "ruin the fight" suddenly backfired now in the negotiations. Floyd did the exact OPPOSITE of what you people, (perhaps wanted) thought Floyd was gonna do, and agreed to fight the date that Pacquiao demanded, and now it appears Roach is contradicting saying that March is too soon (!!!!!!!!!!). Now about the rest of things you wrote: The OBVIOUS reason why the Floyd Victory over Corrales is better than Casamayor and Clottey's, was cuz first of all, Corrales back at the time (Which reminds me, you were not a boxing fan in early 2000s, right? You said you started watching boxing recently) was expected to KO Floyd, and it happened backwards (Even the loud mouth of the Rugged Man said that Floyd looked like magic and he did), and second, 130lbs was where Corrales was the most dangerous. Joel Casamayor needed three fights to prove he was better, and even had to struggle in two of his Victories; Floyd only needed 10 rounds, in fact 7 rounds, cuz from there one, it was just a matter of time; Floyd looked fantastic in that fight against an undefeated, 130der dangerous Diego Corrales. And about Clottey, what the hell, Corrales was already all punchy. The man has took too much punishment was washed up, and the fight was at 147lbs where his style of fighting (puncher) was not effective at all; it's like saying that if Cotto now beats Castillo by KO, then that proves Cotto's better. Also, saying Cotto, or Pacquiao would've KO'ed Floyd's victims is SPECULATIONS, they are not facts. "Woulda, coulda, and shoulda" means nothing inside the ring. And by the way, less time winning fight doesn't make tyou better than anybody that takes longer time to do so against the same opponent. And about what Floyd Mayweather Sr. told his son, well, what you expected Floyd Sr. to tell his son: "Stick your chin to him so he can hit you, son"? (By the way, as if anybody has to tell Floyd Jr that). His father ain't scared, his father is not makin' any excuses, and nobody here is "jealous". And about Mosley, time will tell (Though I'm almost certain that fight IS going to be made). I already explained Floyd wants to make Mosley wait, like Mosley made him wait years ago. And to finalize Paul Williams can go to 147lbs, 154lbs, and 160lbs anytime he wants.
Wednesday Dec 2, 2009 11:46:48 PM
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@ Saltlover, you're right, I am a recent fan of boxing, but I'm also read up on my history, and increasingly so. So the fact remains, you're STILL building up the corrales victory as one of his greatest wins even tho p4p and historically corrales is a blip (RIP and respects to his styles and his fights). Mosley has been beaten or fought more legends than Floyd can dream of. Also, another fallacy, you're stacking me up into the "paclover" group when I'm not even a tru pacquiao fan, he's NOT one of my favorite fighters, but I do Respect him as a boxing fan myself, and as a fighter he is. Any OBJECTIVE boxing fan would find Pacquiao's achievements way greater than Mayweathers (pacquiao's last fight was at a higher weight than he's used to agst a top tier opponent IN THAT WEIGHT CLASS, cotto was ranked 2 or 3, hatton was ranked 1 in his weight class, marquez was unranked as a welter, and hatton was a jr. welter in untested waters at 147). You can keep attacking my "newb" status all you want, but that's all you can do, b/c ya can't use boxing knowledge over me (as i've surpassed you), and as long as you've been around the game, Bert Sugar rates pacquiao much higher than Pacquiao in the grander scheme of things, and he's been following boxing while you were still peeing in your diapers. So corrales and "seniority" are your greatest arguments? Well, for one, Floyd is a cash whore, he's been slipping hard fights, even hard fights with $$ for long time b/c he wants it the easy way. Pple then called him a businessman. Then he touted himself as #1 and that he was too good to fight anyone. Pple still called him a businessman and the biggest draw. He said he would never do business with Arum (he also said he'd meet marquez at 144, and we all know that didn't work). What does that say? He has no integrity, he'll go back and break his own word or principle if the price is right, or if something is easier or more profitable. There is no consistency as you would find with pacquiao or cotto (was pacquiao signin and gunning for cotto a week after the hatton fight? was he going straight for hatton after the de la hoya fight) Inconsistency in action is due to inconsistency of character (or lack of it). Also, as a nuthugger, even tho i respect you as a writer, you are high in list, up there with: GOAT, kountedout, #1 floydfan, and Eastar. Objective floyd fans I would say are: Ali, brownsugar, and Real Talk. Even tho you are a p4p'er on the TSS list, you also rank high in the p4p loonies. Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:18:12 AM
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Bert Sugar rates pacquiao much higher than MAYWEATHER in the grander scheme of things, and he's been following boxing while you were still peeing in your diapers. So corrales and "seniority" are your greatest arguments?
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:20:34 AM
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I cannot believe what I'm readin'. Man, I cannot believe this. I have read many absurd things in boxing, but this one is way too low. Absolutely NOBODY disses Floyd on the Corrales performance, man. Nobody's "building up" that Victory. Dude, not giving Floyd credit for that Victory is way too crazy. That was a great performance for Floyd against a great fighter Corrales was. That by itself alone exposes your "newb" status, man. Nobody, I mean, absolutely nobody says that about Floyd. EVERYBODY, including Floyd haters, know that Victory over Corrales was a shining performance by Floyd, and I mean EVERYBODY, even Floyd's #1 hater in this site, donputop69 gives Floyd his respect for that Victory. WOW!!! Man, that is.....that doesn't have a name man. That fight everybody was predicting Corrales to KO Floyd, and Floyd made it look so easy against who was considered the best 130lbs Champion, and here you are callin' that Victory a "glip" LOL!!!!!!! This goes to the TSS classic screw ups in the same league of "Casamayor is not 37, he's 47" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Anyways, Mosley has beaten more legends than Floyd? Who? Who he has beaten? Mosley's only two greatest Victories of his career were agaisnt De la Hoya, and now Margarito. Margarito's the only one Floyd hasn't fought, but what will you say if Floyd fights Mosley? About Floyd's business with Marquez, and not makin' 144lbs, was obviously to send a clear to the Paquiao Team, that he was not gonna fall into the little Catchweight dumb games; that is so obvious, man. That's not "inconsistency", that's an indirect message to Freddie Roach, that Floyd was not gonna fall into that, and also Floyd's fight against Marquez si by itself a message to Pacquiao. And Bert Sugar can rate anybody how ever he wants, what difference does that makes? If he knows more about boxing than me, then great, but that doesn't mean I have to agree on everything he says. And by the way a lot of those experts comment in those ways to help promote the sportboxing. If another guy was the P4P, he would be saying probably the same thing. And finally about the list of the "TSS loonies" Oh my! That hurt me! That hurt me! LOL!!! Whatever man, that's so childish, well, what's to expect from somebody who writes 'Street Fighter' moves to describe certain fights? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! I never asked to be P4P nothing', I'm just a fan and I simply participate here that's it. And if you wanna play that game then, you dissing Floyd over that great performance against a great fighter in the 130lbs like Diego Corrales, then I would put you in the list along with...........................................actually you all alone. CUZ ABSOLUTELY NOBODY SAYS THAT!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:39:57 AM
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And Bert Sugar can rate anybody how ever he wants, what difference does that makes? If he knows more about boxing than me, then great, but that doesn't mean I have to agree on everything he says.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:42:36 AM
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Smiley C:
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Hahahaha! MisterLee has given me the inspiration to come up with a Loony Desk Reference. That is so original what he posted: "Even tho you are a p4p'er on the TSS list, you also rank high in the p4p loonies." Funny! Funny! Fo' sure!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:48:58 AM
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you are going in circles with fanatics, they dont understand boxing and they never will. you have proved your point but they dont want to hear it because they are fanatics. fanatics dont understand boxing. its who there favorite fighter is that matters. they look at everything through tunnel vision. let them talk and say that matrix manny has had greater achievements then floyd. thats there opinion. who cares. when floyd beats matrix manny then all of there words will cease. why would someone be jealous of manny when floyd has more skills then manny could ever imagine. who ever heard of a fighter throwing a left with his left foot off the ground. thats amateurish and he will be taught a lesson.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:09:33 AM
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SALT lover@kountedout:
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Yeah, some of them really it doesn't make sense trying to explain certain things. Look man, I for one, am not here to criticize Pacquiao Team for anything about his whole negotiation. Cuz this is a BUSINESS; something Floyd's been saying for a long time, and nobody listens when he says it. It's understandable if the Pacquiao Team have problems deciding. The point me, you, GOAT, and some people were makin' is the irony that it was Floyd who accepted the terms FASTER with Arum than Pacquiao, when they have been saying with mad craziness that Floyd was gonna "run away", "duck Pacquiao", etc, and it happened the opposite way, and my point was, that if it was Floyd doing that, this site would've exploded with attacks against him. And now some of them, since they have NO argument about this, try to to do something and all they can come up with are the meaningless "jealous", "excuses", and Mosley arguments, that have NOTHING TO DO with the case being discussed here. I am wishin' and Truly convinced that Pacquiao is gonna sign that contract to fight with Floyd. I mean he has to, he must. This is the fight to decide who's the best fighter and the better man in the ring.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:18:37 AM
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Mayweather is going to get TFKO! Turning your back and bending down looking at the canvas gaurantees that he will kiss that canvas. He is a lot mouth scarry bum. He picked the wrong small man this fight.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:24:14 AM
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Yo salt! I guess you're just jealous b/c my debut on TSS went like this: " MistaLee Says:
January 1st, 2009 at 8:19 am
Sugar Shane, round 10 tko. It’ll be a hard fight, and I do not underestimate Margarito, but Shane has better endurance and a better chin than Cotto. Tho he is not as hard of a hitter, he is faster and has that heart and grit and determination to kill it. I wish Cotto luck in his next fight." and YOU said (tell me this doesn't sound crazy): "Despite this devastating loss, despite what happened last night, despite the controversy around the hand wraps, despite people and public's opinion about him, and despite what TSS put on the Quote of the Note that I wrote, Antonio Margarito is still one of my favorite fighters and I'm looking foward for him to be Welterweight Champion of the World once again.........................And this IS the REAL Salt lover. Peace to everybody.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 06:53:34 PM" Hahah.. it's one of those : it's not me, it's them! crazies always think they're sane...
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:27:11 AM
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"The REAL Salt lover: WOOOOOWWW!!! MisterLee, you have proved me VERY wrong. You happen to be a guy that ANALYSES things as they are and you're not a HYPE-RIDER like the rest of these wannabes. And you're a Pacfan, but firm in reality. See? Writers like you are the ones that give Pacquiao a good name, unlike the guys here who, most surely, copy/paste the same thing over and over again with no base and fundaments. I agree 100% with everything you just wrote. Yeah, fights are interesting and hard to predict and makes it even more difficult to find a True, legitimate undisputed Champion in any Weightclass when things like these happen. Good writings man, for real. However, I might not agree with being to much on Garry Penalosa. He's scheduled to fight Juanma Lopez and THAT kid HUUUMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That kid has won three fights in three rounds, and still it has been a year and half since he last sweat Hehehehehehe. Anyways, nice writings man.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 08:20:11 PM" Thanks for the compliment!!! :) :) :)...
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:29:34 AM
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you are a recent fan of boxing. i can tell..you cant play with the big boys. your a kid. you need to talk to some other kids that have just found the sport of boxing too. your boxing knowledge is that of a 1st grader. i consider that none. you know when a woman talks to much. thats you! your conversation shows your lack of knowledge. are you upset because we dont agree with you? none of you busters can even defend why manny wants to not fight in march or may but he will fight yuri foreman in those months. go to the gym and start learning what the art of boxing is about. reading history is not the same as being in history. have you ever been to a boxing match? when you was born in boxing misterlee, had boxing gloves on at the age of 6 thats someone who is comfortable being in the ring. knows every part of the ring. Its second nature to him. thats something that fanatics such as yourself dont understand because you dont understand the art of the game.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:29:49 AM
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Sugar Shane Mosley Shocks Antonio Margarito
By David A. Avila (Jan. 25. 2009) Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:30:43 AM
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MisterLee discusses with a true boxing fan...:
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@ Salt Lover... yo... mosley took down... de la hoya, margarito, vargas, mayorga, and he fought prime forrest, winky, and cotto. At least 4 future hall of famers on that list, three of which he fought twice. He woulda rematched Cotto but he doesn't do rematches, he moves on so he can get the most of his career before the inevitable happens to a brawler: he gets axed. Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:33:31 AM
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MisterLee:
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"The REAL Salt lover: YOU SEE??!! THIS IS EXACTLY what talking about. Before the fight they're NEVER there, and AFTEr the fight come up and start barking. That's SO EASY to do. MisterLee(Whoever you are) what prediction did you EVER made in this site? I've never seen you before here and now you saying Mosley surpassed your predictions????????? Man, after the fight is easy to come up and start comentating some garbage. Anyways good fight and tremendous performance by the once again 'Sugar' Shane Mosley.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:49:31 PM"
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:37:57 AM
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SALT lover@Mr. Lee:
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Oh, what a move...he looked up archives almost a year old to try to prove something that doesn't have NOTHING to do with this. Boy, you can look at the archives (Old ones, I would say) and if that makes you happy, read whatever you want. Back then I simply thought you knew about boxing, it must've been something you, I guess, wrote that I might had agreed. But now I guess it must've been one of those beginner's luck. Anyways, keep putting whatever you want if that gives you any consolation, that doesn't change the that you, and your buddies don't have any argument about what's happening NOW....you read that: NOW.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:39:01 AM
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"MisterLee: Wooooo... awesome! Mosley did it again! Now Margarito nuthuggers needs to find a new profession. Mosley surpassed my predictions (10th round tko) and even came out unscathed which was my biggest fear as I'm a big Mosley fan. unlike Cotto, Margarito doesn't have the hand speed and boxing ability to fend off Mosley and it was a right haymaker feast for Mosley. Also, compared to Cotto, Mosley's punches are sharper and faster and more accurate and maybe that makes the difference. Forget Cotto rematch, Mosley should take on Mayweather and have 2-3 or 4 more big fights and retire happy and unmatched :). TSS, you are the best! Keep it up! Oh yeah, and big up's to Nazeem Richardson who crafted the masterpiece known as Hopkins-Pavlik too. He is truly a masterful trainer. Pavlik and Margarito nuthuggers should join a group : Nuthuggers United. A support group for fallen fans. Hooorahhh!!! Where does Marg go next, he's gonna run from Tall Paul some more, maybe get knocked out by Cotto too, and fall down to number 3 or 4 in the Welterweight ranks. Berto is gonna climb up and challenge the top, Mayweather come out of retirement, who knows, maybe Pacman might get in the mix!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:44:14 PM" Wow, forget the boxing fan business, i should be a prophet! Loron Prophet baby! Pc! Gn!! haha...
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:40:22 AM
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i agree with what you said an i feel the same. I do think manny will eventually sign for the fight. misterlee wants to argue for no apparent reason with me. i never had said much to him but i guess he didnt like some of my comments but misterlee you cant stand up to me in this sport as far as boxing knowledge. you lose here dawg! i have been called racist and other things by guys who dont know me just like they call floyd scareweather, gayweather all other types of names. even read a new one that called him fraud monkey gayweather, haha now thats not cool. no real boxing guy would allow such ignorant or rude behavior. only fanatics.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:47:02 AM
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Real boxing fans talk boxing. Guys who THINK they know boxing revert to namecalling and insults b/c they have limited knowledge and are insecure pple. You haven't responded to Mosley's line up: "de la hoya 2x, winky 2x, forrest 2x, cotto 1x" ... does that stack better agst floyd's resume? Oh yeah, floyd beats corley and judah by UD, cotto KO's both of them. clottey KO's judah. And you keep calling corrales a "great fighter", according to who? According to the time he fought floyd, of all time, or just in your imagination? It seems we're not getting any boxing done here, you're just reverted to name calling b/c you can't counter my boxing arguments. All you got is time on me, knowledge? nope. pc out tho! May our arguments continue at another time. Besides the whole floyd issue, i'msure there's other boxing to discuss like LTP. ANd you never admitted you're wrong about me being this "diehard pac lover". I'm not. I'm really not. Mosley, Andre ward, collazo, clottey, ralph marquez, donaire, darchinyan, bhop, winky, dawson, katsidis, angulo all the way! Holler! What happens when your 2nd hero disappears like your 1st ? are you gonna disappear from TSSU for 6 months before returning like the marg loss (which i predicted correctly). Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:47:13 AM
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GOAT, Eastar, #1 Floyd fan (peter Leroy), kounted out, and the newest member Salt Lover = crazy! Salt lover is a solid tss banger, so i'm gonna give him respect anyway. Ali , Brownsugar, & real talk = floyd fans that also have some OBJECTIVITY too. Isaiah and anony = former floyd fans that have come around and given pacquiao credit and floyd criticism. Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:49:21 AM
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The only Hall of Famer is De la Hoya, and Cotto depends on his future, but that looks very unlikely, for now. Vargas and Mayorga Hall of Famers??????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And by the way those two were washed up when Mosley fought them, Vargas was already slaughtered by Trinidad and De la Hoya, and same with Mayorga. And Forrest and Winky both schooled Mosley and twice, I can't believe you bring those to try to give Mosley any credit. How does that makes Mosley look any good? What's your point in those two? And finally, whatever point you're trying to make about the comments you and I wrote after the Mosley Victory Margarito, I simply MAN up and ACCEPTED the conditions which happened back then, unlike what you're doing now. I didn't went back in time to look for some writin's to try to make a point. And by the way to answer your question (A very, but VERY OBVIOUS question, man): "And you keep calling corrales a "great fighter", according to who?"....according to EVERYBODY, inccluding Floyd's haters!.....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:50:33 AM
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SALT lover@Mr. Lee:
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And yeah, I forgot, OK, my bad for thinking you were a Pacfan. OK, I'm sorry, what difference does that make. And where I'm calling anybody? Where do you see any names calling from me? I ain't name calling anybody! What you talking about?
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:52:40 AM
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SALT lover:
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*And where I'm name calling anybody?
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:58:36 AM
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kountedout@misterlee:
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why cant you talk about now. you are a child. if you wanna talk about the past and fighters then lets talk about shane on steroids okay. he fought oscar while on steroids. should there be an asterisk next to his name on the guys he beat because we dont know when he started. Just like they said margarito was a cheater so is shane. lets talk about why shane pulled out of the fight with Ivan robinson. someone you have never heard of and he never fought kostya tszyu. dont get it twisted. lets talk about how vernon forrest and winky wright both slammed mosley. you will never learn anything in boxing because you think you know and what i have forgotten is more then you will ever know. you. good grief man im not in your p4p list. oh im so hurt
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:02:23 AM
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MisterLee:
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These words can be construed as name calling: "beginner's luck.", "'Street Fighter' moves to describe certain fights? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!", and "That by itself alone exposes your "newb" status, man". I don't take it personally b/c i' know what im' talking about. Remember i said manny would get cotto (who USED To lean forward) with his dragon punch uppercut? Guess what? round 4 left uppercut to the chin, 2nd knockdown of the fight? Beginner's luck? before i discovered TSS i was arguing with fools on youtube. So i predicted andre ward TKO over kessler inside 10 rounds (i was close and kessler was close to going out), and i predicted manny victory over Cotto inside 10 rounds, i was close but no cigar. Beginner's luck my butt. See ya around!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:07:50 AM
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kountedout@salt lover:
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as you can see he misterlee is a kid. he just found boxing like a kid found new toy. he thinks he knows boxing because he claims he reads. he brings up the past but he doesnt realize that you was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he knew boxing. you maned up. he doesnt get it. he doesnt undestand boxing language im sure. all due respects to you misterlee but do you know boxing terms? i would like to have a civilized conversation with you and see if you know boxing.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:11:00 AM
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SALT lover@Mr.Lee:
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Name callings are: stupid, idiot, dumb, dumba$$, moron, the g word agains Asians, the n word against black people, the s word against Hispanics, and such like that. Beginniger's luck ain't no name calling, and MUCH less the Street Fighter thing. If those things offended you, then I apologize. I didn't thought they were such big of a deal for you. OK, I'm sorry then, I take it back. And about those predictions, great, I applaud them. Whatever. Still that doesn't mean you have any argument about what's going on NOW
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:16:03 AM
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SALT lover:
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*Beginner's luck ain't no name calling....
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:16:47 AM
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MisterLee:
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Hurt my feelings? No. Related to boxing? No. "Beginner's luck" = irrelevant banter, not boxing talk. At least you can respond to some of my boxing inquiries with a perspective, a different perspective, as opposed to other people. Other pple can't hold a candle to real boxing talk. As to the whole "I'm a newb i know nothing crap", i don't think that's true, but it's irrevelant. I like to stick to boxing talk and not accusing pple of stuff or calling out pple. In general i like to get online and chat and discuss boxing, but if pple call me out, I don't back down. But ya got my respects. Hows that crow tasting deepwater? How's your buddy Kessler doing? Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:44:43 AM
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MisterLee:
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You're still a p4p'er, tho i still think your support for floyd is extreme, you're still a huge cut above eastar, goat, and kountedout. Has KO actually said anything you agree with? I admit, outside of floyd articles, he does make some coherent sense, but what is it about floyd or rjj that makes you support him beyond all reason or causes? I don't do that with my even deep down favorite fighters. Also, pple's accusations about mosley are partial, the substances he used in 2003 were not banned or held illegal until 2005, and they are not you common everyday "steroids"... like EPO has nothing to do with growth hormones, it has to do with giving your blood more red blood cells to carry more oxygen thru your body more productively, thus giving you more endurance. But pple will take swings when they can without any background knoweldge (actually RJJ was known to have taken anabolic steroids in 2000, but everyone swept it under the rug, partly b/c his dance partner was using 2x more steroids, but rjj retained his belt despite the incident... maybe b/c HBO needed him). Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:49:15 AM
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kounedout:
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i dont need for anyone to agree to my comments. i speak knowledge. because you hate floyd dont mean i have to say negative things about him. i do not go to the extreme with floyd. if you listen maybe you will learn something. i have never said floyd is the greatest of all time, i give him credit for his skills but im not going to let these busters trash him like he is not a good fighter. you dont even know the man and you trash him. so how low of a person are you. your education on boxing is lacking to the highest level. shane mosley took steroids his father even said it. stop running off at the mouth like a little woman and start learning. do you know what mexell is? they have a new steroid thats in the ligaments. you have to dig deep to discover it. im really hurt you dont like my comments. im not here trying to write a biography to get comment of the week. goes to show you what you know i dont have a favorite fighter. hahaha
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 04:05:05 AM
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kountedout:
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do you and your buster friends get together and say lets start arguing with certain guys so they can leave or get kicked off because they dont agree with you? it wont happen here dawg! when manny signs that contract its goin to really get hot up in here.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 04:11:24 AM
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SALT lover@Mr.Lee:
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Dude, saying what you just said about Floyd's Victory over Corrales is just plain WRONG. That is not defending Floyd beying "extreme", that is the DAMN TRUTH! I don't agree always with Floyd. If you go to the Larry Holems article, I agreed with some people that Floyd haven't fought True competition at 140lbs. And about the Roy Jones, well, who wrote after my comment of him "I agree with Salt Lover. Nuff said."? That wasn't you? Andvif I didn't hurt your feelings, then why you're crying about the "name callings"? You're the one who says those things are name calling, when they are not. Yeah, you don't back down, but that is making you write incoherent and things that are just plain WRONG (And that ain't no name calling either, that is the Truth). I don't back down when I KNOW the other guy is wrong like you. How can you not give Floyd his deserved credit and treat the Corrales Victory as if that's not big? Not even Floyd's biggest hater in the World does something foolish like that. It's like me saying to you Pacquiao's first Victory over Barrera ain't nothing. And then I kept writing and writing things for the sake of not backing down. And about the steroid thing I didn't brought that up.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 05:49:13 AM
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SALT lover@Mr.Lee:
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*That is not defending Floyd beyond "extreme",
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 05:53:03 AM
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SALT lover@Mr.Lee:
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Or a better example, is like me saying Mosley's Victory over De la Hoya in 2000 is nothing, cuz De la Hoya just recently had 5 losses and lost to Pacquiao, Floyd, Hopkins etc. When in reality that was a great Victory that brought Mosley to become a star in boxing. That is WRONG, and you do that outside this site with anybody, you'll get insulted worst than the little things I wrote.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 05:59:06 AM
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SALT lover:
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*When in reality that was a great Victory that brought Mosley to become a star in boxing, and De la Hoya was the man in the 147lbs after Trinidad moved up to 154lbs.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 06:00:04 AM
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kountedout:
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its like a boxing ring misterlee, no one can come to your rescue now bc they dont know what to say bc there hero is making them look weird bc floyd is not holding up the fight, it manny. arum and manny wanted to fight on march and now floyd has said any of those months are okay. now manny wants it pushed back to september and now manny wants 60-40. if you understand boxing thats calling bidding yourself out of a fight. or duckagotiatons. manny only fights unhealthy fighters. thats great to be proud of. the GOAT, Salt lover, Eastar only want the fight to happen. we have not said that floyd is the greatest of all time. those are comments from your friends. i have never said floyd is my favorite fighter. im sorry if i hurt your feelings.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 10:24:29 AM
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kountedout:
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can we call it DUCKAGOTIATIONS! if it looks and smells like a duck then its a duck. hahaha manny wants 60-40, so who is fighting for the money now? i thought he fought for the people. ohhh i get it he wants that money so he can go feed more people in the philippines. i get it. is that the excuse they can come up with. this is mind boggling. its okay to fight on march but not against floyd.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 10:28:52 AM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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@kountedout, you sure know your boxing buddy. The only ducker in this game is Floyd. He has ducked every living thing from 140-154. It's like the guy skipped three divisions without fighting anyone and wants praise for what? Don't worry about Manny he will sign otherwise there would have to be a very good reason to why he wont for the March date. He will give all you Floyd fans judgement day.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 11:17:39 AM
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MisterLee @ Salt Lover:
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Are you actually saying Oscar De La Hoya and Corrales are equal fighters/victories? Now THAT is crazy business. Anyway, I didn't peg you as a RJJ nuthugger. I was speaking in generalities, that fighters like Pavlik, Floyd, RJJ, Marg, and a few others seems to attract the most diehard fans who would defend their every action good and bad (which is very hard to argue with when objectivity is tossed out the window). I wasn't "crying" nor "complaining" about the namecalling. I was pointing it out, b/c it takes away from a boxing argument, and doesn't lend credence to "boxing knowledge.' If you and others who could and may technically "know more" than me, you should have to win an argument by "pulling rank". I been around longer than you, i know more than you, your a beginner blah blah blah... those are all useless pathos (emotional appeal) arguments without any logos (logical arguments). You're also trying to use your external ethos (positions, experience/seniority, - how long you been in the game, how many fighters /fights you've watched) to win an argument that WASN'T about who been in the game the longest, it was which boxer was the best, and which boxer fought which boxer, and which match ups belong in the annals of history, and which ones are really going to be forgotten 15 years from now. You know Deepwater pulls the same stunt, b/c in the end of the day, he couldn't beat me in a boxing debate, so he went and pulled rank too, but he couldn't provide me a single round in Ward's last 4 fights in which he "boxed and moved, stunk up a fight, and just tried to be a slick fighter", b/c Ward isn't that kind of fighter. He also tried to call out my "fighting expereince" and "pedigree" and basically implied he was a superior puglist and has better knowledge of the game b/c he is who he is. Well he was wrong, he couldn't disprove my question, and he ate lots of crow. That's why I like to stick to boxing right or wrong, pulling rank is unnecessary crap that belongs in the army, if EM or my boxing brothers haven't pulled rank on this sorry-arse writing poster here, then I don't think you oughta either or anyone (well some posters have done it to me in the past, but we've come on equal and common grounds. If pple are going to disagree with me on some subjects, they're bound to agree with me on some too. Pple feel it's this contest on who's right, or I have some obligation to write or "think" like others. Well, it's actually my own method of "thinking outside the box" that makes my perspectives unique, so I ain't gonna stop jivin' or spittin'. Dr3r142, motorcola, isaiah, ali, yuvie, #1 pacsage, real talk all think outside the box, i'd like to be one of those who do. Holler!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:13:30 PM
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that's not quite true about Floyd,.. I've watched the Mayweather dvd collection several times,.. while he was still 130lbs,.. Mayweather was calling out Castillo, Corales, and Oscar Del La Hoya,.while they were still in their prime. Oscar was fighting in a higher weight class and was nigh invincible at the time,.. when Floyd moved up to lightweight,... he called out Shane multiple times,.. at a time when Shane was knocking out all of his challengers on the way to becoming an ATG,.. he also called out Kosta Tszyu after every fight,..and this was at a time when Kosta Tszyu was a knockout machine,.. he called out Oscar and beat him at his own weight 154,.. while he was little more of a natural 140pounder himself,..by contrast after Pac made his bones as a bonafide ATG in the juniorfeather,..Featherweight,.. and superfeatherweight divisions,(no argument there).. But then he takes on the weakest lightweight titlist in David Diaz,.. while other the better lightweights like Diaz,...NateCampbell, Casamayor,. even the rugged Michael Katsidis is totally ignored,.. when Pac invaded the junior welterweights,.. he avoided the true challengers.. Nate Campbell again,.. Bradley, Holt,. Maidana,.. Peterson,.. and Alexander.. instead he picks off a severely faded Ricky Hatton,.. who hasn't been the same fighter since Floyd dusted him off,.. partially because of the loss and partially because Hatton has no discipline controlling his weight between fights and should have moved up to welter a long time ago,.. Manny added 2 notches on his belt with victories over starved opponents Del la Hoya and Cotto,.. even winning welterweight title,.. 2lbs below the welter limit,.. Pac has benefitted from the astute yet Vulture like practices of an adept management team,.. that have stacked the deck for Manny ever since his departure from 130,.. while I respect Manny and believe that he is truly a great fighter,.. you can't ignore the holes in his resume,.. the same glaring critisizm that's being tossed at the less likeable Mayweather who didn't do much of anything after beating Oscar can be applied to Pacman,.. who really hasn't scratched the surface of competitive challengers between 135 to 147,.. Cotto would count if he wasn't a starved shell of himself,.. so Both men are on equal footing,.. and Both Pac and Floyd are still phenomenal boxers,.. but when a magnifiying glass is applied to both of their accomplishments,.. you can see that money is the ultimate goal,..and fighting the absolute best is not....now Both men have a chance to get what they both crave (yes even the lovable Pacman wants to be paid),.. and Frankly I think Pacman needs a rest,.. he's been on tour for the most part of a year,.. and needs to rest-up & heal up and learn how to fight a crafty guy like Mayweather,.. so March would be too soon,.. I'd like to see it,.. but to be fair,.. I think Floyd would dominate and beat up a run-down Pacman if they fight in March,... sad thing is,.. if they don't fight in march,.. will they ever fight?....
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:20:06 PM
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Arturo:
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Mister has become a GURU in less than a year.The man has researched enough history to write a New Testament in the Boxing Bible.I must admit that he is a very responsible president of the TSS council by up updating his P4P list every 60 days.His no non sense street fighter sound effects rank among the most creative TSS words to ever exist.He also thinks that because of Pacquiao beating Catillo in sparring a month ago he is better than Mayweather cause Castillo gave Floyd problems earlier this decade.Thank you Mister Lee for being a great debater
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 12:56:14 PM
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#1 PacFan "Pacquiao #3 on ATG list"Standing firm!:
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MisterLee, spittin it volumistically! Good stuff bro. Keep up the great post.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:22:00 PM
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SALT lover@#1Pacfan:
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Dude, dude, dude, have you read the TREMENDOUS HORROR this individual wrote, #1Pacfan. Dude, ahve you even,............have you read the ridiculous things this individual have just wrote??????!!!!! Let me ask you something, and be honest: What do you think about Floyd's Victory over Diego Corrales at 130lbs in 2000? We're not talking about the 140lbs where you and I agree Floyd didn't fought True competition, nor 147lbs (Even though we can debate it), nor 154lbs, we're talking when Floyd was a Super Featherweight in 2000.
Now tell me, and be honest, what do you think of that Victory over Diego Corrales at 130lbs in 2000? Would you say giving Floyd credit for that tremendously great Victory is "building it up", in other words, that there is too much credit given for Floyd in that win? Or would you agree with me (And EVERYBODY for that matter) that Floyd's win over Corrales was indeed a great one? Answer that question, and be honest. You and I have disagreements about Pacquiao and Floyd TODAY, but answer me about that time. What do you think about Floyd's Victory over Corrales?
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 01:53:20 PM
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SALT lover@#1Pacfan:
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And by the way (And this I consider a real debate, not that ridiculous thing your buddy wrote) how Floyd is ducking when he just accepted? And now you say: "Don't worry about Manny he will sign otherwise there would have to be a very good reason to why he wont for the March date." OK, like I've been writing ALL this time in this article: in other words if Floyd has his reasons not to accept dates, then he's ducking, but if Pacquiao doesn't sign, then he has a good reason? That's the thing were you are now wrong. If Floyd doesn't sign, thejn he's duckin' Pacquiao, but if Pacquiao doesn't sign then he has a very good reason. Where's the sense and fairness in that #1Pacfan? Truth of the matter is the Pacquiao Team is contradicting itself, first Floyd (And Arum) wanted the May date, cuz that's better for business, and then the Pacquiao Team wanted the March date, cuz Pacquiao wanted to do other things, Floyd ACCEPTED (Which I'm almost certain it took you Pacfans and Pacquiao Team by surprise; you wanted Floyd not accept to say he's ducking like you're wrongly saying now), and now Roach is saying thaty March is too soon cuz he wants Pacquiao to completely get his ear healed. That's contradictory, and if Pacquiao pulls out cuz Floyd will not give 60-40 on Pacquiao's favor, which is ridiculous, then you say Pacquiao has his reasons. If it was the other way around, you would say Floyd was duckin'. ACCEPT IT, the one stallin' this fight is your idol and his contradicting team.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:03:01 PM
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SALT lover@Arturo:
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You can't possibly be serious. So you're saying that the Jose Luis Castillo today is a better fighter than the Jose Luis Castillo in earlier 2000? And also cuz he got whooped by Pacquiao in sparrin' sessions and you use that to compare it with Floyd's performance??! You agree with that ignorant comparison? You can't possibly be serious!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......................................... Man, what's been happening now in the negotiations, has completely made a lot of people write a bunch of NONSENSE lately! And most probably cuz they are not big enough accept the facts, and just start writing nonsense. And all of you know this.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:10:18 PM
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SALT lover@Mr.Lee:
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Whatever, whatever, whatever man.....keep doing whatever you wanna do. There's no point in continuing, nor starting any boxing discussion' with after the ridiculous things you just wrote. Not even the dumbest boxing fan in the World not give Floyd huge credit for that great Victory Diego Corrales in 2000. Even Arum and Roach, who's Floyd biggest trasher in boxing, know something so kindergarden like this. Keep doing whatever you wanna do, keep talking the childish 'Street Fighter' video-games stuff, and keep reading old posts if that makes you happy. Discussin' boxing with you is a waste of time.
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:14:08 PM
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brownsugar:
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test
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:14:46 PM
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SALT lover:
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*wrongfully saying now),
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 02:16:47 PM
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Arturo:
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I was lying my a$$ off.haha
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 04:15:02 PM
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SALT lover@Arturo:
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Oh damn, my bad man. My bad Hehehehehe!
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 05:15:22 PM
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kountedout:
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salt lover dont take fanatics serious. they are that! u cant squeeze juice out of a rock. its useless..hahaha @pacfan I do know my boxing. much better then you the main fanatic. manny is a hero in his country not here. suck it over there. this day is what we have been waiting for. this little midget will be clowned around and humiliated right in front of your eyes. the contract is not signed by manny yet he might be still running but not for congress. Duckagotiations. A lot of Pactard. Pacman is their pride and hope. They don't want to see a cocky slick American school him and make all those ducking allegations come true
Thursday Dec 3, 2009 09:13:40 PM
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Suits, Stop Squabbling, And Posturing, AND MAKE FIGHTS!
"Floyd may very well be the most talented boxer but that he does not understand that what the fans, who ultimately pay the bills, watch fights for is entertainment. At the moment, he not only ignores that reality but frankly doesn't seem to care. Neither about our wishes and/or our passion for to see great fights. Thus, there is little Go ... and even less Show. I am vaguely interested in the Business of Boxing. Frankly, it is a mess on a good day and worse on it's worst. I prefer reading the Business pages where brilliant men and women develop skills and strategies to create incredible value and wealth (for themselves and others) in ways far more effectively and meaningfully than those who Rule ...some might say Ruin...this beautiful Sport." --FE'ROZ, speaking for a majority of fight fans
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