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Tuesday Nov 17, 2009

We all thought we'd see Bowe-Tyson, and Bowe-Lewis, eventually. Didn't happen. Pacman-Mayweather isn't in the bag, people.

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Rock Newman Knows The Best Fights Aren't Always Made

By Bernard Fernandez


      There is a scene in the 1972 film classic, The Godfather, in which Michael Corleone, temporarily exiled to Sicily while his family engages in a bloody mob war back in America, is walking through the hills when he spots a passing beauty and is immediately transfixed.

      “You got struck by the thunderbolt,” one of Michael’s bodyguards tells him, using a local term for love at first sight.

      Boxing fans know a variation of the feeling. Even hard cases have been known to be smitten with a case of man-love for mostly unknown fighters they personally observe for the first time. The new object of their affection might not be leading-man handsome; in fact, he might have a crooked nose and a facial scar or two. But who cares if the fighter in question can punch like a mule kicks, has the requisite amount of skill and charisma, and a predatory style that no doubt would be frowned upon in other areas of polite society?

      Ed Schuyler Jr., the retired longtime boxing writer for the Associated Press, had just such an epiphany on Sept. 13, 1971, the night a young Panamanian fighter with jet-black hair, formidable boxing ability and a glee in dispensing punishment made his U.S. debut in Madison Square Garden, on the undercard of a show headlined by Ken Buchanan’s successful WBA lightweight title defense on points against Ismael Laguna. Roberto Duran needed less than a round to wipe out a rugged journeyman named Benny Huertas, and Fast Eddie left the arena believing that he had seen a violent sport’s next big thing. Time would prove him correct; on June 26, 1972, Duran returned to the Garden and brutalized Buchanan in taking his title on a 13th-round TKOL, formally introducing the world at large to Manos de Piedra.

      A similar moment of clarity enveloped me on June 23, 2001, when a little Filipino southpaw wrested the IBF super bantamweight title from South Africa’s Lehlohonolo Ledwaba on a one-sided sixth-round stoppage at the MGM Grand. I made a mental note to remember the name of the little Filipino because, well, I had a hunch he just might turn out to be something truly special.

      Yes, that would be Manny Pacquiao.

      Rock Newman recalled his own brush with the thunderbolt. He was ringside in New Jersey, mesmerized by the destructive power of Tony Ayala Jr., a seething teenaged tornado from San Antonio.

      “I saw Tony in an undercard fight when he was coming up,” said Newman, best known as the manager of former heavyweight champion Riddick Bowe. “I saw that incredible fury, that devastating punching power. It jumped out at me. It happens that way sometimes.”

      As fate would have it, Ayala was even more brutal beating up women in drive-in restrooms and apartments he had broken into, which led to his 17-year incarceration (he has since made a return trip to prison), forever leaving fight fans to wonder how he might have fared against celebrated contemporaries Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns and Marvelous Marvin Hagler. Ayala’s manager, Lou Duva, thinks his guy would have been the equal or more of any of the aforementioned legends, but that is speculative. Those fights never happened, so the title of author George Kimball’s engrossing book Four Kings, which details each matchup involving Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler, is not Five Kings. Ayala is the wild card in the deck of our collective imagination, the ace in the hole that never got played in a high-stakes hand.

      But Newman has a keener insight into boxing’s might-have-beens than Ayala’s penchant for career self-destruction. He and Bowe made millions of dollars together, the three high points of their association being the Bowe-Evander Holyfield trilogy, the finest three-act passion play involving big men since Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier pushed one another to the limits of human endurance in the ring.

      Now, with fight fans in frenzied anticipation of a Pacquiao showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr., interest spiking crazily in the wake of “Pac-Man’s” domination and eventual 12th-round TKO of highly regarded WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, Newman reflected on the megafights that Bowe might have engaged in, but didn’t.

      As wonderful as Bowe-Holyfield I, II and III were, wouldn’t boxing have been better served if “Big Daddy” had deigned to mix it up with Mike Tyson, a product of the same blighted Brownsville section of Brooklyn? And what about Bowe seeking revenge against Lennox Lewis, who beat him in the super heavyweight gold-medal bout at the 1988 Seoul Olympics? That never happened either.

      Ask Newman about those missed opportunities for pay-per-view bonanzas and he sighs. “You got a couple of hours?” he asks. “That’s what it would take to go over all the whys and wherefores for those fights never happened.

      “When it comes to making big fights, nothing is automatic. The bridge between wanting to see something, and actually seeing it, can be steep and long. Sometimes it’s a bridge that leads to nowhere.”

      That “bridge to nowhere” not only is where Bowe-Tyson and Bowe-Lewis became stalled and eventually expired, but it’s the place where the long-awaited rematch of Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. got lost for nearly 17 years. It’s where the fight between golden oldies Larry Holmes and George Foreman, which would have done good business, even though both men were in their late 40s, vanished in a puff of smoke.

      And if Bowe never got it on with Tyson or Lewis, Newman reasoned, there is at least a possibility that Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) and Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) will never share a ring. Personalities and contractual conflicts have a way of torpedoing fights that, on the surface, make too much sense to not happen.

      Mayweather has filed a lawsuit against Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, his former promoter who now handles Pacquiao, and Arum has countersued. The animosity between Mayweather and Arum is palpable, with insults swapped back and forth as if they were baseball cards.

      For his part, Mayweather has suggested that a fight with Pacquiao can happen only if Arum recuses himself from the promotion, which isn’t going to happen, and if he receives a 60-40 split of the available monies, his rationale being that he’s undefeated and Pacquiao isn’t. That won’t happen either.

      Trying to negotiate this minefield of nastiness and recriminations are HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg, who believes an equitable arrangement can be achieved if enough money is thrown at the problem, and Golden Boy executive Richard Schaefer, who has a working arrangement with the Mayweather camp and the difficult task of finding enough common ground with Arum to close the deal. Oh, sure, Schaefer and Arum have done business before, but this negotiation figures to be especially bitter and protracted.

      “These guys both have huge egos,” Greenburg said, referring to Mayweather and Pacquiao, not necessarily Schaefer and Arum. “But the money we are talking about is astronomical and will set their families up financially for the next century. I think they can be convinced to come to a 50-50 split.

      “This fight has to happen. It happened about five times in the ’80s. You think of Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns. That’s the type of fight this is. This should be our Super Bowl. It will break records, and it will define both guys.”

      We shall see. Even Newman believes Pacquiao-Mayweather will take place, but he still daydreams of the massive piles of money he and Bowe missed out on because Tyson and Lewis never signed on the dotted line.

      “If we know anything by now, it’s that nothing is automatic in boxing,” Newman said. “If (Pacquiao-Mayweather) doesn’t get made, it will because one of the fighters chooses not to take the fight. It won’t be about money. It can’t be about money. There’s too much of it to be made by both sides for that to be a consideration.

      “So, yeah, personalities can come into play. It’s happened before. Look, it’s pretty well-known that Arum and I have never been interested in going out on a double date. That said, Arum, as maddening as he can be at times, is a financially practical person. As a businessman, he won’t let anything personal between himself and Mayweather supersede the bottom line.

      “Oh, sure, they’ll be a lot of posturing back and forth, but at the end of the day Arum is too sensible to let past squabbles get in the way of doing what needs to be done.”

      Like everyone else, Newman admits to loving the excitement Pacquiao has brought to boxing, a jolt of energy the likes of which we haven’t witnessed since the young Tyson was starching a succession of petrified opponents in the mid- to late-1980s.

      “Pacquiao’s incredible appeal is a combination of things,” Newman said. “It’s the absolute passion and fury that he brings into the ring. He has this singular, intense destructive focus. I think there is a realization, and not just by Filipino people, that he’s fighting for more than himself. Every time he steps inside those ropes, he is the heart and soul of a country. It’s almost like every Filipino’s sense of his own worth is tied to Pacquiao’s success. That is an enormous burden for anyone to carry, and I think all of us who watch this guy know that.

      “There is a purity to his savagery.”

      There is also a certain purity to Mayweather, if a lesser dose of savagery. But it is that which makes “Money” so effective that has Newman thinking he would find a way to take down Pacquiao.

      “I’ve observed Floyd Mayweather from the time he was a 4-year-old kid hitting the speed bag,” Newman said. “His boxing IQ is greater than anyone else’s. I’m not saying his skills, power or any of that are best, but his boxing IQ is.

      “He simply knows how to win fights. He knows everything there is to know about range, about angles, about how to hit and not to get hit. I think, as an in-the-ring intellectual, Floyd would figure out a way to win this one, too.”
 

      
           
      
      
      

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Fe'Roz :  Yes, Rock is right about nothing in boxing being automatic. As for Pacquiao, like Tyson, everyone has a strategy until they get hit.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:36:20 PM
the Roast:  Hello, Newwman. Speaking of which, What ever happened to Jerry? Too busy working with Larry David on "Curb" to comment on the TSS??
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:14:49 PM
MisterLee:  *snare * snare* *cymbol!* hahaa... come on ... it's looking more likely than that... come on, we live in the age where were rjj and bhop are rematch after some 17 some years... if that happens ANYTHING can happen (except de la hoya vs. trinidad II or taylor vs. winky 2). Holler! Besdies mayweather only has two opponent choices, mosley or pacquiao. it's like which would you rather do: get kicked in the balls or kiss a man for half a minute. May would rather hand pick another opponent, like glorified sparring session with kounted out or eastar. holler!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:27:05 PM
Isaiah:  If Pacquiao/Mayweather doesn't happen, it'll be because Mayweather will find an exscuse to not make it happen. Pacquiao doesn't need an exscuse. Also, late congratulations to you Fe'Roz. You've truly earned your reward.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:29:21 PM
kingkemp:  this is a pretty good article but i just dont see people giving floyd credit if he beats manny pacquiao and i think if floyd would have won 7 division titles the would still find a way to discredit him . it a double stadard with floyd people hate him
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:47:34 PM
MisterLee @ king kemp:  IF IF IF... floyd hasn't done crap.. if he had.. we would've alreayd given him credit... actually A LOT of credit was given to him in the oscar and hatton fight.. then he decided to leave the game at his peak... when the world was at his feet and he was popular and could have gone anywhere from banking on millions in a oscar rematch or taking on any welter or even catchweight fights... instead he left "on top" at age 30 and then his resume was analyzed more closely in his retirement and it was his fault he was greedy and decided to "get to pacquiao" and the p4p 2nd list by beating marquez, which tho made him some money, made him VERY unpopular in the boxing world. That's that. no if's, he ain't done jack since hatton, and hatton ain't a 147 fighter. holler!
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 01:40:24 AM
arturo @ mister lee:  He is a very cocky person but he is still a great fighter.Im not saying that he is the best but if he fights Manny he will have his chance to prove how good he says he is. Manny has should Mayweather cause he has taken on just about everyone, then he could retire.If Mayweather wants more than 50% then he doesn't want to fight , if Roach wants to make Floyd to do a trapweight then he is avoiding a bout. Mayweather has fought good fighters but not the best.I feel like he still has time to prove himself and whatever he says is just to stay in the spotlight while he isnt fighting.I heard on spanish tv that GBP is negotiating a fight for JMM with either Manny or Hatton.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 03:57:35 AM
arturo @ EM:  IT WOULD BE COOL IF WE CAN HAVE AN ARTICLE ABOUT VOTING FOR THE BEST TSS WRITER
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 04:09:48 AM
bs:  Pac can retire now, he is a legend and he doesn't have to prove anything but a fight with mayweather is what the world wants to see. Mayweather needs pacquaio more than Pac needs him. Mayweather has a big ego, he believes he is the best because he is undefeated and by that he wants to take all the money. my man its not about that. Pac can retire now having his legacy cemented but if floyd retires without having a bout with the pac, he is nothing.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 04:20:47 AM
Alokwe:  Newman let his anger and frustration at the boxing establishment get in the way of his better judgment. The truth is he handled Bowe's post-championship win in a fairly immature way. That's the reason his fighter never fought those other guys. I have the feeling Rock thought they owned the boxing world the moment Bowe won the title. They even tried dismissing Holyfield's demand for a rematch until they were threatened with a lawsuit (Evander had a rematch clause).
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 08:48:39 AM
bill major:  this is why mayweather will lose that fight. its what i always felt and rock newman put it in a nutshell... ” Newman said. “It’s the absolute passion and fury that he brings into the ring. He has this singular, intense destructive focus. I think there is a realization, and not just by Filipino people, that he’s fighting for more than himself. Every time he steps inside those ropes, he is the heart and soul of a country. It’s almost like every Filipino’s sense of his own worth is tied to Pacquiao’s success. That is an enormous burden for anyone to carry, and I think all of us who watch this guy know that. mayweather wouldnt know about "fighting for more than himself". pacquiao is superhuman because of it on fightnights!
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 09:16:31 AM
Reno:  Bowe v Lewis didn't happen because of the Bowe camp, he threw his belt in the trash instead of facing Lewis who was his mandatory
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 10:39:03 AM
Robert Curtis:  Pacman does deserve more than 50% of the gate if he fights Mayweather. Pacman will bring the buys. Mayweather is the top of the ticket only in his own mind. But 50% of nothing is nothing, so both men should be able to split down the middle if they really want to make the fight. I think a catchweight of 145 is fair. 147 and 154 is too much. Manny's height is listed at about 5'6" and a half, but everyone I know who has seen Manny in person says that is generous. If the fight is ever made, I can't give the edge to Mayweather. I like all the little defensive tricks I've seen Floyd Jr. do in the past, but he's never done them under the greatest pressure. The kind of speed and multi-punch combinations Manny brings to the ring these days is too much. Pacquiao has become as magical as prime RJJ. Mayweather will move well, never stop jabbing and create distances and angles that are to his advantage, but he will be just as susceptible to unseen punches as anyone. Plus Manny is not going to get sucked into anything foolish and will listen to Freddie when necessary.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 11:29:35 AM
Reno:  I'm interested to know if Pac can adjust to Floyd, because we know Floyd can adjust to just about everybody. What will Pac do if Plan A doesn't work will he make an adjustment or will he continue to just put on pressure and run into counters. Pacman holds a belt at Welterweight now, so that means no more BS catchweights 147 or nothing being as though Freddie said Floyd can't punch.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 11:40:22 AM
Fe'Roz :  Floyd has never fought anybody like Pacqiauo......because there has never been anyone quite like Manny. We are watching something very unique. Someone for whom there is no blueprint because every time the ink dries, Manny keeps changing.... for the better. Looking at tapes won't help. Yesterday's Manny is not today's....and today's Manny is not tomorrow's. And not incrementally. Like superman, he moves in leaps and bounds. First he's one handed. Then he's not. His right is as good as his left. He can hit with power from both sides. His rhythm punching has not comparables. His power keeps increasing with his strength. His strength and stamina are uncanny; his punch resistance their equal. Literally, every time we have seen him fight, he gets better. If and when Floyd fights Manny, he will need more than a pedigree and and undefeated record. He will need more than a shoulder roll.....and the ability to adjust. For Manny means business.....and Floyd better be ready. He will be fighting for his life.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 06:05:48 PM
Matthew:  Even though Rock Newman is a smart man, I always found him extremely irritating. Although he made a lot of money for Riddick Bowe, he is also largely responsible for Bowe wasting his talent. That 'world tour' Bowe took after winning the title did him no favors. That was Newman's idea; he tried to have Bowe do the same thing that Ali did after beating Liston. While it was a noble gesture, it was a bad idea. It took his focus away from boxing, and took him out of the structured environment he needed to keep his weight down. Newman should have had him fight again 3 months after the Holyfield fight. I blame both Newman and Bowe for not making a fight with Lennox Lewis. Lewis was the WBC mandatory, and they tossed the belt in the trash rather than fight him. If they really wanted to fight Lewis, the fight could have been made. A Tyson fight never came off largely due to Tyson being in prison for 3 years, and when he got out, Bowe had severely deteriorated. There was no demand for a Bowe-Tyson fight at that point. I still find it amazing that after the second fight with Holyfield, Bowe, at age 26, never again fought for the heavyweight title. A true underachiever.
Thursday Nov 19, 2009 09:46:59 AM
the Morlocks:  I recemtly watched the fights from Ayala's career and he was so overrated. Maldanado had hin out in 1 when he knocked him down w/ a rempleshot and if a good fighter had him that hurt he would have fininshed him. Ayala got hit easily and proved later on against Campas that he had no heart for taking body shots or for a hard fight. He quit. Duran would have beat the spit out of him and Hearns would have walked him into a right hand in round 1 and rid the ring of him. Like most Duva fighters
Friday Nov 20, 2009 02:57:40 PM
the Morlocks:  fighters, he was gien softpunching surethings coming up and would have collapsed like Czyz, Ramos, Bumphis and the other Duva phonies. Ayala talked a good fight and looked great against bums, but a real fighter who stood up and could hide a cow w/ his punch, would of taken his heart just like the other rapist Tyson folded EVERYTIME someone fought back w/ a hard punch and resolve.
Friday Nov 20, 2009 03:01:12 PM

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