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FLOYD BLASTS PACQUIAO: "Tell Manny To Be His Own Man"
MAYWEATHER HAS YET TO HEAR PACQUIAO CALL HIS NAME
"They are all talking for him but Manny Pacquiao has yet to say he wants to fight me. If he wants to fight me all he has to do is step up to the plate."
Las Vegas, NV (November 16)... Floyd Mayweather, who listened to several comments made by Manny Pacquiao's promoter and trainer about a possible match-up between the two fighters, still has yet to hear Manny Pacquiao himself say he wants to fight him.
"Manny Pacquiao is the fighter and every time someone asks him if he wants to fight me, he says it is up to his promoter, he's going to take a vacation, whatever the answer is. I have yet to hear him actually say, 'yes I want to fight Mayweather.' We are the fighters and if one fighter is talking about fighting another fighter, then they should just come out and say it. Manny Pacquiao doesn't say anything directly about fighting me because he might just know it's not a fight he can win.
"He said during an interview he did leading up to his fight that he didn't think I wanted to fight him and that boxing for me was just a business and I wasn't interested in a good fight. But again, he never said during that interview that he would fight me. Why is he talking about what I won't do instead of what he wants to do? Plain and simple, it's because he knows he can't beat me under any circumstances.
"Less than an hour after his fight Saturday night the talk turns back to me. Their whole promotion was just a Mayweather sweepstakes. They know it and anyone could figure that out. Why, because my name kept coming up and I didn't even say anything. Even when he was interviewed on ESPN by Brian Kenny, he was asked about fighting me and what did he say? Not 'yes I want to fight Mayweather or bring it on.' But no! He said 'hum, ahh, well talk to my promoter.'
"The world is much more intrigued by the thought of someone fighting me who can beat me. That is what everyone wants to see and the boxing world is trying to find that guy. Manny Pacquaio's people have done a good job of creating an image of him to be this unbelievable fighter and now the so-called guy to beat me. But like all the rest, he's not the one.
"There is boxing and then there is me. The rest are just falling in line behind me or are trying to get in line to fight me. And that includes Manny Pacquiao too.
"Tell Manny Pacquiao to be his own man and stop letting everyone, including his loudmouth trainer, talk for him. I am my own boss, speak for myself and tell it like it is. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight me, all he has to do is step up to the plate and say it himself."
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Southpaw_07:
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The fight is not depending on whether Manny P. is verbally telling the world that he indeed is looking forward fighting Mayweather, but the "real fight" is the post fight around the negotiating table, who takes the bigger piece of the cake, that's all it is.
For Mayweather to divert the attention from the money negotation and duping us to understand that the only thing he's waiting for is Manny's nod to the fight, is only a a fool's game.
Get it on, with a 60/40 split where 60 goes to the winner by KO, otherwise a 50/50 split is fear game for everyone involved.
Signed by Southpaw_07
Monday Nov 16, 2009 06:49:02 PM
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Isaiah:
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This just in. The Pacquiao/Cotto superfight has generated over $82 million dollars in revenue. While still adding in the whole total, this generates into over 1.5 million Pay Per View buys. Pacquiao takes home $13 million plus a pecantage of PPV sells and Cottto takes home $6 million plus a pecantage of PPV sells. Let's take Oscar De La Hoya out of the equation for Pacquiao and Mayweather and ask yourself one question. Can Mayweather pull in 1.5 million PPV buys? Tell Mayweather to put that in his pipe and smoke it!!!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 06:51:15 PM
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angrypeople:
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Step up to the plate ??!! ....... not too long ago when we saw Shane Mosley challenge Fraud face-to-face in front of the media .... what was his answer then?
$8M offer then to fight Margarito ...... what was his answer then?
Time to lay off the peyote Fraud .....
Monday Nov 16, 2009 06:52:35 PM
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Castro:
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Amen! Thank you Money for speaking the truth. Like I said before - Manny is the Catchweight King & if he thinks he is the real deal - all he has to do is fight the best at their best. I don't wanna hear anything regarding catchweight limits! I'm tired of this $hit!! & so is everybody else. Well everybody except for nuthugging Pacfans! They wanna keep their boy safe & protected. Either put up or shut the &#&$ up! Time to defend your belt. Let's get real you guys come 2010 - Mosley, Berto or Margarito will be just as hungry for either man & to me that thought alone is a scary one.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:02:49 PM
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Ted:
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The Money is in THE MANNY!! Come and Get it!! hehe!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:03:39 PM
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Isaiah:
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Interesting theory that Mayweather has except for one problem. All roads now lead to Manny Pacquaio B###H!!! He says you aren't interested in fighting him? It's your job to call him out. If Mayweather wants to play that game, I could point to what Shane Mosley did after the Mayweather/Marquez fight. What now? STILL WAITING FOR THE ANWSER ON THAT ONE! HA! IN CASE MAYWEATHER HASN'T NOTICED, MANNY'S NUMBER #1!!! YOU GET IN LINE B###H!!! Must be nice to live in Mayweather world, where you don't do anything and you're bigger then the sport itself. Someone should tell Floyd to stop hitting the pipe! Pacquiao/Cotto just $hit on Mayweather/Marquez #'s!!!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:08:01 PM
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Teacher:
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Sad, Mayweather is already suffering from memory loss. He is the king of calling himself his own boss, but ask him about Mosley or any other boxer with a pulse; then all of a sudden it is all up to Haymon and Ellerbe. This dude is to delusional.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:10:47 PM
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#1floydfan:
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floyd did better numbers than pacquiao in all 3 fights dlahoya, marquez & hatton so no doubt cotto too......but thats not the fight we wanna see......why doesn't pacquiao just call him out? whats so difficult about it? floyds giving him all the hints in the world
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:10:58 PM
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jake:
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First of all, Manny is a humble man, and Mayweather just needs to stop talking and sign the contract, period!!! how can he say, there's boxing and then theres me? hahahaha anyone who supports his b.s must also be as ignorant as he is....lol
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:13:05 PM
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Saul @ Isaiah:
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Thank you Isaiah!! where's his answer to Mosley right? I can't believe this.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:17:13 PM
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Isaiah@Castroand#1floydfan:
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I guess all logic goes out the window with his fans. Hey guys. NOW, Floyd wants him? You all don't see what's up? How many guys did Floyd call out? Hold on. Get Floyd's NUT$ off your chin first!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:17:50 PM
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#1 PacFan laughing at this Fraud!:
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LMAO! Since when has Manny ever said a name he is eager to fight. It's my promoter's job to negotiate the best fight available for me. That's his trademark. The ball is in Pacquiao's court! Mayweather now seems to look like he's begging for a fight. We know one thing for sure that he(Manny) never going to back down on a challenge. I can't say the same for Floyd who was scared straight when Mosley bullied him off the mike.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:37:55 PM
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Frank Z:
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haha alright mr. you gotta talk to leonard ellerbe and al haymon about that, i'm glad he's on board though, he's doing his job to hype the fight.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:41:17 PM
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SALT lover:
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Floyd is such a smart and intelligent person. The dude knows his game and he knows what he's saying, and he's saying those things for a reason. He's damn right when he says people wanna see him lose, not fight. And people don't realize this, he's not attacking Pacquiao. He's attacking Bob Arum. He knows Arum doesn't let his fighters call out names, just like Cotto in his days. That's Arum's fighters trademark "It's my company's job". No doubt Pacquiao is not scared to fight anybody, and doesn't backdown from no challegen. But Floyd is doing a very smart talking and is targeting right at Top Rank.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:44:42 PM
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SALT lover@Isaiah:
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I think the reason why he didn't accepted Mosley's challenge is obviously because he was waiting for Pacquiao-Cotto results. Pacquiao is a much better opponent for Floyd in all aspects than Mosley: money, boxing, promotions etc. plus the best P4P fighter in the World. Beating Pacquiao today is more glorious than beating Mosley; even you can knows this, C'mon dude.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:48:36 PM
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Radam G:
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Money May is going to continue to "Blast Pacquiao" until after Manny KHTFO. Money May is slowly but surely losing his mind. And this is not him acting crazy to throw Manny off. Money May is really scare and jealous of Manny. Money May is my boy, but Manny is my peeps. If the fight happens, Manny is going to buffalo the guy who is many people's hero, but he is now acting like a darn zero getting ready to get his head chop off by Emperor Nero. But it won'be the sword of a darn emperor. It will be PacMan's Whoopa Whop and Pinoy Ice Sandwich Smack Down. Down goes Money May! Down goes May! That was QUICK! This bout with Pacquaio, he should not have picked. Pacquiao was too slick. Now lil D#ck -- I mean lil Floyd -- doesn't have that goose egg, but he made so much moola for his beatdown that he will never have to peg. Holla!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 07:54:35 PM
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Isaiah:
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Oscar De La Hoya was 34 and 35 when he fought Floyd and Manny and was past his best. Oscar is the reason those fights sold well. By the way, against Manny, no one asked him to fight at 147 for that fight, Oscar insisted on that weight! Floyd made Hatton move up to 147 while Manny beat Hatton at a natural 140. Let's not even go there comparing Manny's fights with Marquez at 126 and 130 compared to Floyd's fight with Marquez at over 140. @Castro. Who's the REAL catchweight king? Who's been avoiding Miguel Cotto for years while Manny just kicked his butt? Floyd is that ducking punk and YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! Did you see Miguel Cotto at the weigh in at 145 pounds? The man was cut, strong and ready to rock. STOP WITH YOUR LIES!!! Cotto simply lost to the better man and he makes no exscuses for it. The real question is, since Cotto has been a Welterweight since 2006, why haden't Floyd fought him in 3 years? I guarantee you anyone Floyd beat at Welter, Cotto would have BEAT DOWN! You have no logic in your arguement! Man! Manny Pacquiao being the Pound For Pound King must be such a bitter pill to swallow for you out of your mind, delusional Floyd fans. The facts are the facts.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 08:04:30 PM
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#1floydfan:
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if anyones a liar it's you my friend.....if cottos been a WW since 2006 and floyds been retired for 21 months then how long does that give us? you do the math.....anyways floyd called out cotto way back you can't deny it it's been recorded.....and you wanna know what cotto said? ahh im not ready lol.....if anyone around heres spreading lies it's YOU my friend.....floyds been avoiding cotto for years huh? yeah right......you forgot to mention floyd fought oscar @ his most comfortable weight which was 154....and made him wear pillows for gloves....now i wonder why you left that out? nobody was complaining about hatton moving up to challange floyd @ 147 until now......you'd do anything to discredit my boy wont you? yeah ok cotto would've of beat down floyd lol......hey we'll do 1 better than that we'll beat down pacquiao.....hows that?
Monday Nov 16, 2009 08:47:30 PM
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dtfernando:
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People with culture -- and manners -- in Asia consider it impolite and thuggish to call out the names of prospective opponents. Of course, we already know that the Mayweather clan is thuggish, impolite, has ex-cons, tax-evaders and other lowlifers, and even drug-deals on the side.
If he really believes that he is dominant over the Pacman, and that the Pacman is one-dimensional, he can easily take on only a million dollars or less for a walk in the park. Why bother to pay Mayweather a million dollar if he truly believes he can easily defeat the Pacman??? Any person without his criminally negligent logic would take several thousand dollars as reward for fighting a one-dimensional fighter that has been knocked down several times.
As we ordinary people know, a person who insults another man's capabilities is simply greatly fearful and jealous of that man and his accomplishments.
I too personally wouldn't call out Mayweather's name; but if ever he walks into my hometown, he will most certainly cry and learn to beg for mercy for his arrogance.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 08:51:39 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Men, this is just getting pathetic. The man has no leverage left. Manny's numbers will do exactly what I expected. Make Floyd's pale by comparison. Those are the laws of economics Floyd. Nothing stands still. Yesterday's highs are tomorrow's lows. Boxing business is like every other. Just do your job. Fight. It's not personal. It's just business. Begging for adulation and attention is unbecoming....yet it is becoming Floyd's MO. And with so many options, it's just plain undignified. Fight Floyd. Beat Shane Mosely. Take his belt. He has a full year to rest. You gave it to him. You could have made it happen but you gambled and waited. You let him take care of Margarito while you 'retired'. And now that Manny just got finished doing the same to the other man you chose not to fight, you will just have to wait in line. And earn it. Beat Shane and fight to unify the division. That is the path to Manny. And for crying out loud, STFU.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 09:07:43 PM
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kountedout:
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floyd has said what you want to hear now. forget about the numbers lets hear manny say he wants to fight floyd. top rank has built humpty dumpty up now he is getting ready to have a great fall. all of top ranks horses and all of top ranks men wont be able to put manny back up again. the fight must happen. we know floyd wants it. now you want to settle who is the best by ppv numbers. lets settle it in the ring
Monday Nov 16, 2009 09:09:13 PM
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Jeremy:
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All this talk of this and that about Manny and Floyd. I'm just a boxing fan seeing the Truth. As of NOW, Manny is truely the P4P King. Don't forget people, Floyd retired, and during that time, Manny was knocking out virtually every top boxer in each of the division he fought in. Floyd was defintely the P4P king before he retired, but now, he needs to prove that by fighting Manny. He has no choice! Manny don't need to call him out, if Floyd is his own boss.....then make the fight happen. Only inside the ring will tell the Truth.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 09:14:25 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Floyd's timing is off. The time to call out Manny was Before the fight. Not today. the whole calculus just shifted right in front of his eyes. Everything he used to 'create' his value has been subverted and used against him. That is business. One day you're on top...the next you're not. You don't get the deal the day after it has been contracted. You wait and create your opportunities. But, hey, Floyd's a smart businessman. He doesn't call himself Money for nothing. He's got skills. Let's see how good he is at getting what he wants....After he has out-maneuvered himself. There are to men this week that seek their own counsel and/or that of the yes-men around them. floyd and Miguel. We saw what happened when Miguel did it 'his' way. Now we can watch Floyd deal himself out from against the ropes. In the meantime, Manny will take his well earned vacation. And enjoy watching Floyd for a change.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 09:24:08 PM
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Francisco:
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HOLD UP!! Manny is under contract to Bob Arum. Bob Arum makes it clear to his fighters that they do not call anybody out. But Freddy Roach can say what he wants, therefore when Freddy said we want Mayweather he was speaking for Manny. Floyd can make all the accusations he wants, but the bottom line is Floyd is a Fraud.....
Monday Nov 16, 2009 09:32:37 PM
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Ramos:
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Hey, Maywhatever..... Manny will break you! Once you feel the power. You will be running like Cotto......
Monday Nov 16, 2009 09:53:39 PM
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Not Hating, Just Saying:
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It ain't Manny's style to call people out. But what if he does say, "give me Money May?" Would Floyd quickly jump in? Of course not. This is just tough talk. Scareweather doesn't have the nuts that Manny has
Monday Nov 16, 2009 10:08:46 PM
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Canvas:
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Its unfair... manny should not fight floyd... not now... floyd must first pass to shane mosley or miguel cotto 1st. if he wins then floyd has a chance with manny... hehehe!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 10:10:04 PM
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#1 PacFan P4P Greatest Of All Time!:
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Wait a minute, I thought it all boiled down to numbers. Now that it seems as the numbers are overwhelming I hear a different song. His fans are as fraudilant as he is. "Forget about the numbers let's hear Manny if he wants Floyd?" Come on now are you that ignorant. Manny is like no other...unfazed...say what you want he's not hearing you. It's time for Floyd to give up the lever because he no longer has leverage. If Floyd wants it that bad then he must put aside his oversized ego and get the smaller share.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 10:12:42 PM
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Frank Z as a reminder to everyone:
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folks, remember in the next several months mayweather is going to market himself very strongly as the villain vs. manny the silent straight man. it's his duty to make us hate him as much as possible so that we will want to watch this fight. just make sure you don't let his words drive you too crazy, becuase he's doing his job, working his hustle. real boxing fans would tune in regardless becuase the clash in styles and skillsets are intriguingn as hell anyway, but just realize what's coming, a torrent of trash talk from mayweather, most of which will probably n ot make logical sense, but it doens't matter, it'll be incredibly entertaining. both train like fiends, both are very good in the style they fight. bring the fight to the table!
Monday Nov 16, 2009 10:32:32 PM
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kountedout:
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i dont care if manny gets the higher amount i want to see the fight happen. i want to see if floyd is as good as i think he is by destroying manny like i know he will do. settling it in the ring who is the better fighter is what i want to see. it will still be easy work for floyd. all manny needs to do is say he would like to fight floyd. but now he don't know how to speak english uuhh aahhh ummm talk to my promoter. just say i would like to fight mayweather.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:05:42 PM
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TotoyBato:
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Looks like Pretty Floyd wants to fight. I am looking forward to seeing the most brutal beat down that the Great Pacman will ever administer. Floyd will be beaten so badly his grandchildren will feel the pain.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:17:08 PM
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arturo @ Frank Z and Salt Lover:
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both of you are accurate to describe the role Floyd started to play.It might be too late to tell people not to get mad.He is going to give these guys a tough time for a few months.lol
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:27:53 PM
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arturo:
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no wonder he got rid of Bob Arum.
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:29:41 PM
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kountedout:
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at first everyone was saying they want floyd to fight manny, time is here now don't back out now. your wish has come true. stand behind your man as he gets punished that's going to happen
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:40:33 PM
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Isaiah:
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I will stand behind Manny Pacquiao win or lose. He has earned my respect. @#1floydfan. You just don't stop, do you? Where in my previous posts am I lying? My quote was that anyone Floyd beat at Welter, Cotto would have beat down, NOT that Cotto would have beat Floyd down. Simple truth, Floyd's Welterweight resume doesn't compare to Cotto's. Why don't you try to actually READ my posts correctly next time?
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:56:21 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Punished !?! Kountedout, please! I respect loyalty but not without objectivity. In the last five plus years, who exactly has Floyd ever punished. Carlos Baldomir. Arturo Gatti. Ricky headfirst Hatton. Seriously, Floyd finishes his opponents...but punish them he does not. Now if and when he concedes to Manny's terms, he will be forced to Fight. And he has a very good chance to win. But if anyone does the punishing, it won't be Floyd. It's just not his thing. Manny on the other hand......
Monday Nov 16, 2009 11:57:02 PM
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Pete steward:
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There going to fight
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:21:25 AM
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Radam G @Totoybato:
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Kakatuwa ka, talaga! Masakit ang puki ni Pretty Boy Floyd. Matakot siya sa titi kay PacMan. Tama ka, talaga. Money May is going to be in a lot of pain. Siguro Tatay ni Magandang Lalake Floyd tumutula tungkol siya di ba eh! Holla!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:33:45 AM
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Canvas:
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floyd... fight mosley or cotto first before you dream on pacman... hehehe
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:35:46 AM
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Radam G - PacMan Parties are stilling rockin':
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Madaling-madali tulog na tulog kay Money May in any bout with PacMan. Manny will break him into tiny pieces. Tatakbo si Pretty Boy at shoulder roll, two steps head drop south fold. This is "Lil Floyd's best defense. He is lazy and boring. And nobody has made him fight non-stop but Jose Luis Castillio (name misspelled) in the first bout. JLC came very close to beating him. Manny ay mas mabilis-bilis, maliksik at malakas-lakas. Money May ay kawawa. Maging tapos na undefeated record niya. Sana na he will be honest and step up, eh! Ang tatay niya ay maingay pera wala namang! Lil Floyd is going to get knock da fudge out and big Floyd is going to still be reciting poetry about himself and the Uncle Roger will be cussing his behind like always. Holla!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 01:00:14 AM
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Floyd struggled with Judah, so did Cotto, Manny is three times the man Judah is! You think Floyd can match his speed! You gotta be kidding! Anyway, Floyd is finally putting in, a sign of desparation but behaving like the cards are on his table. He got beat out in buys... FIRST, he's the king of money and raises money like the "cash cow"... SECOND, he's the best p4p fighter, EVERYBODY wants to see him.... THIRD, he has a verbal altercation with a radio DJ ... FOURTH, public backlash, and instead of calling out Pacquiao's losses.. he HONESTLY knows that pacquiao is way more popular, has a greater legacy and has beaten better fighters... so what NOW? Whore himself and go back on every word he said to cash in on the PACQUIAO sweepstakes.... b/c unlike the Mayweather sweepstakes, opponents don't know if they'll go home with their health.... Mayweather you'll know you come home from a vigorous game of pillow fighting and dodgeball... Mayweather ain't the CASH COW... HE's the CASH WHORE... he'll go back on every word he says just to make a fight, b/c if it's not pacquiao, it's big bad MOSLEY and he'll still avoid mosley until he turns 40. So yeah, mayweather, is overrated and slow compared to Pacquiao. Holler!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:18:16 AM
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MisterLee:
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Floyd struggled with Judah, so did Cotto, Manny is three times the man Judah is! You think Floyd can match his speed! You gotta be kidding! Anyway, Floyd is finally putting in, a sign of desparation but behaving like the cards are on his table. He got beat out in buys... FIRST, he's the king of money and raises money like the "cash cow"... SECOND, he's the best p4p fighter, EVERYBODY wants to see him.... THIRD, he has a verbal altercation with a radio DJ ... FOURTH, public backlash, and instead of calling out Pacquiao's losses.. he HONESTLY knows that pacquiao is way more popular, has a greater legacy and has beaten better fighters... so what NOW? Whore himself and go back on every word he said to cash in on the PACQUIAO sweepstakes.... b/c unlike the Mayweather sweepstakes, opponents don't know if they'll go home with their health.... Mayweather you'll know you come home from a vigorous game of pillow fighting and dodgeball... Mayweather ain't the CASH COW... HE's the CASH WHORE... he'll go back on every word he says just to make a fight, b/c if it's not pacquiao, it's big bad MOSLEY and he'll still avoid mosley until he turns 40. So yeah, mayweather, is overrated and slow compared to Pacquiao. Holler!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:21:50 AM
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I'm 100% sure Mayweather is not gonna fight Manny. He allready have figured out how superior is Manny's skills with him ever since Pac demolished Hatton and DLH way better than he did. What finalized Floyd's decision not to face Manny is this most recent overwelming victory over the powerful and bigger Miguel Cotto, the man Floyd had long avoided. I even suppose Floyd was gonna announce his retirement for good soon after Pac's victory over Cotto to avoid Pac. In a postfight press conference Bob Arum has announced Mayweather is our next. Instead of accepting the challenge or giving Arum direct yes answer he talks a variety of issues.In my honest opinion.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:39:55 AM
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Methinks this match-up WILL happen. We're already witnessing the beginning of the posturing for negotiations. I could not, in a gazillion years, subscribe to the thought that Manny is scared of Floyd or anybody. Mayweather, too, is at a point of his brilliant career that he rethinks his legacy, especially when Pacquiao has upped the ante of his own. Smart and slick as PBF is, the last person he'd fool is himself. Pretty Boy knows there is this empty page when he presents the book of his boxing life before generations of boxing fans.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:40:55 AM
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Isaiah:
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Paul Williams is gone. Cotto and Margarito are going to rematch eachother and they're both now irrelevant to this picture. Joshua Clottey? Please! Andre Berto is about to get whooped. The only 2 men left standing are Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. Tell Mayweather to pick his poison. A beatdown awaits either way. Mayweather's going to find out that being close to Manny Pacquiao is like being close to a tornado. You won't see him coming and he's going to rip Mayweather apart. This will truly be for the fans. For every time Floyd said he's undefeated, for every time Floyd shook a roll of cash in front of the cameras, for every time Floyd didn't take a fight fans wanted to see, Manny will serve revenge for the fans. Revenge is a dish best served cold, by "Manilla Ice."
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:56:06 AM
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blue4cor@mr.lee:
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Exactly Mr. Lee. "behaving like the cards is on his table". The awesome destuctive power of Pac makes him 3x the man Judah is.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 03:00:46 AM
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kountedout:
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punished yes! Fe'Roz manny cant outbox floyd so he will have to try and jump in like he does so he will meet up with some sharp punishes. cotto still ruptured mannys ear and had mannys face not looking to good. floyd is much faster, smarter and sharper then cotto. manny doesnt know how to fight on the inside he puts his hands up and looks not to get hit upside his head and leaves body wide open. several flaws that will be taken advantage of. mark my word manny will get punished. easy work. all manny is done is beat up damaged fighters
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:13:07 AM
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Matthew:
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Once again, Floyd is delusional. Both Roach and Pacquiao have said they want to fight Mayweather. Manny has shown no reluctance to fight anyone, unlike Mayweather. I haven't heard Mayweather say once that he wants to fight Pacquiao. He danced around the question with Brian Kenny by saying that he wouldn't get credit for beating Pacquiao because everyone would say that Manny is the smaller fighter. For all his bravado, Mayweather is a man unsure of himself. That's what's preventing him from fighting the best. I have a bad feeling that he'll price himself out of a fight with Pacquiao because he doesn't really want it.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 06:35:59 AM
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Although I understand how Floyd’s constant self adulation can get annoying, I see it more as amusing. First things first. I do agree with Floyd when he states that the Pacquiao/Cotto promotion was a “Mayweather sweepstakes”. After Miguel barely got by Clottey, speculation started as to who should get to fight Floyd between Miguel and Shane Mosley for the payout of the decade. Then, scenarios involving Manny/Cotto/Shane vs. Floyd were literally everywhere. Finally, the moment Cotto/Pacquiao was made, the inevitable conclusion was that the winner would face Floyd. I know that it irks many folks here to hear it but the name Floyd Mayweather was almost as much a part of the Cotto/Pacquiao fight as both Miguel and Manny. So, I have to recognize that Floyd has a point when he made the sweepstakes comment. However, the rest of his statements were ridiculous diatribe. First, if Manny should be calling Floyd out HIMSELF, so should Floyd as it applies to Shane and Manny. Cotto, win or lose, fought whoever was out there. Floyd seems to “pick and choose” who he wants to face. Therein lays the absurdity. Fighters that are truly at the mercy of their promoters just go out and fight. They don’t need to “call anyone out”. Fighters that pick and choose their opponents have much, much less room to talk about how their career unfolds. That’s Floyd. If he doesn’t like the fact that Manny is to boxing today what fancy hotels are to the Las Vegas strip, i.e., what the sport is internationally known for, then he should have spoken his mind and actually chose truly worthy fighters at the moment everyone believed them to be worthy and not when he thought they were ripe to be beaten.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 07:35:45 AM
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relax gentlemen, just pre-negotiation posturing. This fight will be the highest grossing fight of all time and will cement the legacy of the winner as one of the GOATs so it will be made. In the next month or so we will hear Roach say stuff about PBF and his family and we will hear PBF and his family say stuff about Pac, Roach, and Arum. It's just posturing.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 07:50:59 AM
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There is no need to look at PBF's fights with Zab or Chop and there is no need to look at Pac fights with JMM and EM because PBF and Pac will fight. Next year this time we will know without doubt that PBF is the GOAT, but until then, expect posturing on both sides. When Brian Kenny asked Pac did he want to fight PBF, all he had to say was yes. That would not be trash talk because Pac doesn't trash talk, but a simple yes would have been ok. PBF is a trash talker and he walks the walk so he is always going to say more than Pac, that's PBF's personna.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 07:54:56 AM
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mortcola:
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Floyd, Floyd, you're such a kid. Manny is right there. He never calls fighters out, never has, not his style. You know perfectly well that you'll be at the bargaining table soon. But remember, you need Pac more than he needs you. Pac will forever be known as a warrior, a phenom, and a modest, class act. You will be remembered for great skills, wasted time, and risk-aversion. Money can't buy the kind of cred you lack. Clock's ticking, kiddo.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:26:25 AM
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dp69 doing 569 pushups:
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whoopi damn do.....lmfaooooooo.....look whos talking about fighter calling her out....lol....when was the last time scareweather called somebody out?....featherweights dont count.....its ok....i'll wait.....holla back!!!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:16:21 AM
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Fe'Roz @ Knockedout:
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All Floyd has done was avoid them. Or wait until they have been damaged by each other. Manny is fine. He actually Fought a Real Fighter. How many times did the real GOAT, Muhammed Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard leave the ring unmarked....after fighting their top peers. Floyd will not leave the ring unmarked. In fact, he will not enter it unmarked. He will lose the negotiation....and then, in the ring, lose his zero.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:23:54 AM
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I guess most of you don't remember when Manny stated that Mayweather wants nothing to do with him. I just don't think Manny is the type of guy who just calls someone out. He hinted weeks before the fight that he doubts Mayweather wants to fight him. That's his way of sending a message other than beating the guy who he didn't want no part of. These next few weeks will be interesting.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:05:58 AM
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Fe'Roz :
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Since Muhammed Ali first used the tools of modern media, in his case television, to proclaim himself the greatest on Ed Sullivan before the Liston fight has there been many great fighters. Though few so brash yet so capable of backing up their words. He, like JFK, understood the new medium and were it's first true champions. He enlarged the fan base of boxing exponentially. He got our attention, captured our imagination, stirred our emotions....and then went into the ring and fought the most fearsome opponents of his time. Win Lose or Draw. He fought. Henry Copper clocked him...but he won. Joe Frazier beat him and made his jaw look like a Jack O'Lantern. But he avenged him, twice. Ken Norton, the same. George Foreman, in his prime, and he beat him. He took better than he gave.... most of the time. That is why we call him the greatest of our time....if no all time. He demanded and earned our respect. He made haters believers. He begged for nothing but fought for everything. Most of what I have described, less the brash talk, describes one fighter today: Manny Pacqiauo. He has proven....in the ring... time and time again that he is the greatest of this time. He has earned his respect. He begs for nothing. He is a man content with his growth, his family and his achievements. A man the world has now turned it's eyes to behold. Floyd Mayweather is not even close in stature. He may possess the greatest skills but he is not the Face of Boxing today. Google Manny Pacqiauo. There are 20 million searches. Google Floyd. There are 6.5 million. Look at the NYTimes, the Wall Street Journal and Time. Count how many words were used these past years to mention Floyd Mayweather. Then count the words still being printed about Manny. And keep counting. As I've said many times, Floyd has been too clever by half. He has short changed his public.....and has out-smarted himself. Manny will fight but a few more times. Enjoy it while you can. He is an all time great pugilist. Floyd, with all of his remarkable skills lack the will to be truly great in the biggest sense of the word. His legacy will look more like Holmes that Ali. He has earned it
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:08:51 AM
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It's funny when I read a post and it says that Mayweather is going to crush Manny. I'll go on record that Mayweather is not going to do any damage on Manny. The only way Mayweather will have success is if he runs around the ring throw two to three punches a round. He will ask for a bigger ring 10 oz gloves and a head gear. If this fight materializes and Mayweather decides to just circle the ring and not engage I will say he came to survive and hope to win rather than prove his greatness. Before you blast at me hear this. There are ways to do damage on your opponent while displaying great boxing skills. Leonard showed it and Ali showed it they were warriors as well as technicians.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:16:37 AM
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Fe'Roz @ #1 Pacfan:
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Amen, my brother
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:19:27 AM
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Nuckle:
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I used to be the biggest Floyd fan, not now. I gave him the benefit of the doubt everytime until he fought little Marquez. I hope he really dont think he get credit for whipping that little guy and didnt even knock him out. Pacman is knocking out big men. Then what really did it for me was when Mosley stepped to him in the ring and challenged him in front the whole world and he didnt step to the challenged. Where I'm from we say Mosley punked out Floyd. Now he got the nerve to say Pacman never calls him out. That's not in Pacman's character. What happened when Mosley stepped to you? And now I doubt Floyd can ever secure his legacy because the welterweight division is not what it was a year ago. If he would've fought and beat Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Berto, P Williams a year ago all of those victories would be more meaningful. Even if he beats Pacman he still won't be considered one of the greatest ever. I hope and believe Pacman will knock him out when they do fight. Once Floyd get that L on his record he won't have a choice, but to fight everyone then, but like I said it wont be the same if he beat those guys in 2010 than it wouldve in 2008. When I was watching Pacman destroy Cotto saturday night I felt chills go down my back or something it felt like I watching the 1st man walk on the moon. All I'm saying is it felt great to witness greatness. Pacman 1 of the greatest ever.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:21:12 AM
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Fe'Roz:
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Among the many absurdities of all of Floyd's comments is that Manny is the Champion of Floyd's division. He, not Floyd, hold the Belt. Floyd is the contender. He is the one who should be asking for a right to fight for the title. This would all be fironic if Floyd wasn't being serious. But he is. So it is both absurd and pathetic.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:23:12 AM
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There is no need to bring up Ali, SRL, and other great fighters because PBF and Pac are going to settle it in the ring. If you hate PBF or love Pac that's fine but at the end of the day they are going to meet and settle the score. I like PBF because I believe he is a more complete fighter than Pac. Other believe the same thing about Pac and that's fine but it is useless to grade their oponents and accomplishments over the past few years because they are going to fight and the winner will be seen as the greater of the two.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:25:08 AM
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joe:
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why should one want to call out another for a fight? why? what does it gain for one to call someone out for a fight? it's a bait to dignify the recognition for one's status over the other. manny knows that. money knows that. arum won't be in his 80's and not know the media game. the impasse will culminate on the negotiating table.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:28:18 AM
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kountedout:
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it's funny when I read a post that says Mayweather is going to run around the ring from manny. it wont make a difference what size gloves mayweather wears he will punish manny. manny gets cauliflower ears not by accident. i dont have to blast you its your opinion. once floyd beats manny what excuse will you have. manny will just be opponent #41 that have tried. have you ever heard of ring generalship? never heard of floyd telling anyone to not gain more then 5lbs after the weighin or the day of the fight. that is a coward that wants to always have someone weak to fight not be at there full strength. floyd avoids no one. why cant you admit he wanted to fight mosley and cotto. he never mentioned manny at that time because manny was to small. now manny is his weight so the fight must happen and manny will go down
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:34:15 AM
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kountedout:
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floyd has NEVER made a guy lose weight to fight him and put such horrible clauses in contracts. manny made oscar and cotto come to 145. that's not boxing. that's fighting a corpse. manny is the greatest of alltime catchweight fighters hes the king that hands down. i give him that
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:37:55 AM
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Fe'Roz @ kountedout:
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Please. After Marquez you can't be serious. Please tell me you are trying to make us laugh.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:42:36 AM
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mortcola:
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Kountedout - Its OK to admire PBF's skill. But, man, he is the EXAMPLE of the talk-smooth-but-rarely-fight boxing businessman today. You've created a fantasy out of the Cotto/Mosely history. They are fighters. Floyd is guardian of his imaginary legacy. "Money" is his nickname and his incentive, apart from preserving the bubble of his ego. This has nothing to do with skill. It is all about who is real in the game. Floyd is real in the ring, even though his style is to use his reflexes to avoid danger. But he just doesn't take or accept the challenges that put him up there with the greats. Wake up and don't waste your worship on false idols.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:47:52 AM
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I can hear Floyd kicking and screaming like the little boy that he is. LOL. Jealousy. What's a matter Floyd? Can't deal with reality? Mayweather is old news, there's a new king in town. Actually, there's a REAL king in town, Mayweather was NEVER it. People don't care if Mayweather loses, what we want is for him to fight a top welterweight. I still can't figure out how he managed to be #1 PFP by beating the likes of Judah, Gatti and Baldomir. Floyd just can't deal with the fact that Pacquiao has class and doesn't "call out" or bad mouth his opponents. Floyd's mad because Pacquiao is not swine like he is and refuses to go down to his level and roll around the mud with him.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:47:57 AM
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kountedout:
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@Fe'Roz you cant accept that mayweather defeated easily a guy who most think he beat manny. it's okay for manny to make a fighter kill his body right. you agree with that. what floyd did to marquez was no different then what hearns did to duran. you make me laugh
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:49:43 AM
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Opening odds favor Pacquiao over Mayweather 7-5. The TRUTH hurts, doesn't it? I bet Mayweather's squeaking like a little mouse somewhere. lol
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:52:09 AM
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The Saint:
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@kountedout: If my memory serves me right, Hearns blasted the granite-chinned Duran into next month in two short rounds. Mayweather hit the easily knocked down Marquez with every punch in the book and couldn't put him away. I think your comparison is an epic fail. lol. Nice try, though.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:54:47 AM
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@Fe'Roz marquez chose to come up in weight to fight floyd, duran chose to come in weight to fight hearns. floyd never told marquez to come and fight him. its on video that marquez said he wanted to fight floyd. you make me laugh. you think it's okay for a fighter to kill his body and fight when hes weak that's DEATH!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:57:51 AM
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The Saint:
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@kountedout: Also, I guess it's okay in your book for a fighter to completely disregard what's in the contract. Marquez would've never signed to fight Mayweather if it weren't for the catchweight. By the time Mayweather weighed in over the limit, there was too much money to be lost for Marquez to back out. It's funny that Mayweather had to trick a lightweight into fighting him. lol
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:58:20 AM
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funny,i was just watching an interview with floyd saying when asked if he'll fight pacquiao or mosely that that isnt how boxing works,its about the ppv views that each brings to the table and how much money it will generate.he said he's on such a higher plane than the other fighters thats why they call him money . we all know that pacquiao wantas floyd he's just not a blowhard l;ike floyd. he loves to fight and does it with joy as we saw on his way to the ring saturdaynight. he was truly happy to go into the ring unlike miguel who looked like he was going to an exacution which it basically was. floy just step up to the table,pacquiao isnt like you for sure,he'll fight you anywhere and anytime ,then go sing .
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:00:18 AM
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kountedout:
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@Saint my point is very valid and you don't get the point. duran fought benitez, leonard and hearns no one said that duran was too little to fight them and what weight did duran come from. my comparison just went over your head. lol nice try though
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:01:32 AM
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franz:
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the reason why manny is not calling out floyd is coz he's not from the ghetto like floyd is - manny may come form humble beginnings but he aint a thug, and culturally speaking the people from the philippines (or from any polite society) do not go out and "call" people out and put them on the spot - its not in his culture to do that - he lets his peeps do it for him, coz thats thier job and by manny announcing something like that without conferring with his team is a "mortal sin" - american athletes should take a page from thier erstwhile asian counterpoints - let your fists or feet or whatever you use in your sport do the talking..it doesnt hut to be humble..
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:03:09 AM
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The Saint:
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@kountedout: No one said that Duran was too small to fight Leonard or Hearns for one reason; He was NOT. Marquez, on the other hand, WAS, no matter how you spin it. Floyd, you don't have to disguise yourself as somebody else. I suggest YOU man up and stop hiding behind "kountedout." lol
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:15:12 AM
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MisterLee @ kounted out:
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Floyd never made a larger guy lose weight to fight him b/c he DOESN"T FIGHTER BIGGER GUYS!!! hahah... that simple.. he backed out of a Winky outing... and he would never ask williams to come down to 147, heck, he won't even fight a welterweight in his own division like margarito then yet ask someone bigger than him to come down in weight, but they would! the complex of scareweather... i guess baldomir and judah are the largest he's willing to take.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:37:46 AM
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mortcola:
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Kountedout - you're about to get kountedout. Your logic is getting picked apart like Cotto's defense. Saint has your number. Take a breather.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:38:57 AM
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bill major:
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i was just thinking that floyd fell into the trap laid for him.he dosent want pacman in no uncertain terms but his pride is such that they've got him crowing about fighting manny ,that manny should say it himself.i think pacquiao is a little smarter than floyd actually because with out saying directly that he wants to fight floyd he did it in a way that has floyd pretty much challenging him to fight.lol. really though,floyd has no way out of this other than looking like the puss he is. manny will eat him up ,especially now that he's already started badmouthing him.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:40:53 AM
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Manboobs the great:
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Floyd just wants Manny to "ask" for a fight so he can say "See! I told you all roads lead to me!" Its just a schoolyard bully head game. If I was advising Manny, I'd tell him to just keep doing what he's doing. Dont even mention Floyd, just call his bluff. His ego and the backlash against him would be to overwhelming to ignore. Just the fact that Floyd is asking Manny to ask him says a lot. Floyd now needs Manny more than Manny needs him.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:45:21 AM
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The Saint:
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@man***** the great: I completely agree. Floyd needs Manny more than Manny needs him. If Manny retires now and never fights Floyd, he'd still be regarded as an all-time great who fought the best. Floyd's legacy will be as a very good lightweight, that's all. Also, if Pacquiao retires, Floyd will have no choice but to fight Mosley, Williams, Berto and Cotto.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:51:33 AM
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Fe'Roz @ kountedout:
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You stand to lose the credibility that you have earned amongst us here at TSS. Your Marquez comments are absurd. Manny fought him in his prime....at his natural weight.
Floyd, he chose to fight him at HIS natural weight. and paid a fine in his amended contract to do so. My eyesight is excellent, I imagine that seeing through the mesh of Floyd's drawers has temporarily impaired yours. As one of the greatest living African-American visual artists, David Hammons, once told me, seeing things the way you want.... will limit your ability to actually see the world.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:55:02 AM
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ali -Pac vs Mayweather no catchweight:
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That's what makes Mayweather so hard to beat if he has to move around like he did with Diego Corrales he will. If he has to come forward like he did with Chop Chop or Zab that what he's going to do. I think that's what its going to come down to who can make adjustments and nobody does it better then Mayweather even the people that don't like him got to admitt that.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:57:56 AM
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Ali, I like him. When he fights. I just don't like talking about a boxer who has fought twice in three years. I am an impartial and passionate fan of Boxing. Without much interest an/or taste for MMA......or, in this case, Fantasy Boxing. pc
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:26:02 PM
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Matthew:
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Why does Pacquiao NEED to call out Mayweather? For crying out loud, the man fought less than 72 hours ago. Let him take a few weeks off and then he can start thinking about his next fight. Pacquiao and Roach have already said they'd love to fight Mayweather; I have not heard Mayweather say the same. I think Mayweather needs Manny more than the other way around. In my mind, Pacquiao's status as an all-time great and the fighter of the decade is secure, even if he should fight and lose to Floyd. If he wins, he only enhances his standing. Mayweather needs a win over Pacquiao (or Mosley) in order to make up for squandered opportunities in the past.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:28:12 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P Legend":
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@kountedout, you have been DQed my friend. LMAO! Floyd beat Marquez so easily while Manny had a fight of his life. That shows how much you really know about boxing. First of all Manny and his team didn't demand Oscar to weigh at 145. Oscar and his team is at fault in that category. He lost the weight too early and you can't blame Team Pac. They were anticipating a big Oscar that night and everyone knows that. That was no catchweight. Fe'Roz summed it up for you regarding Marquez. We'll just have to wait and see what happens but I have to remind you that most of us Hardcore Pacfans have been spot on regarding Manny's fights.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:32:34 PM
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Neutral Corner:
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It looks like the Pacman fans are winning this debate. Floyd fans are relentless though sad I can't say the same for Floyd.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 12:35:05 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P King":
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Congrats to Reader Of the Year "TopNotch" Fe'Roz! It was a UD!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 01:03:04 PM
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Rico of Phil...:
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The reason Manny ain't callin' u out is because he's havin' marital problems at the moment...at the same time suffered some minor injuries during the fight...and besides there's no way Manny should be callin' you first coz u had no title in the first place..The only thing you had is a victory over a pee-bloated Marquez....hehehehe...thats all....Don't Worry Manny will be fighting you if you agree to his terms....hehehe...aren't you ashame using the name Money Mayweather...U should have used Manny Mayweather instead...hahaha
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 01:26:56 PM
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Frank Z congrats Fe'Roz:
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Well done sir, i love reading your stuff and talking to you.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 01:33:30 PM
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mortcola:
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Fe'Roz - you earned it, buddy! Thanks - MC
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 01:39:14 PM
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Solo:
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I agree...Congrats Fe'Roz, I try to make it a habit to read some of your posts. Again, cograts!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:00:19 PM
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Yuvie:
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Mayweather is truly a sad individual, he may think that Pacquiao is some kind of slave to Arum but unlike Mayweather, Pacquiao fights and then just gets on with his life. Why have the hassle of your own business when you're aready raking in more than enough. Mayweather seems more interested in money than his family. Therefore, more than anyone else, Mayweather is the biggest whore in the boxing world. He is a whore to money. That is pathetic. Pac should fight Mayweather just to give the fans what they want but he certainly doesn't need to fight Mayweather now. Mayweather is in the position now and you can tell by these comments, where he is begging for Pacquiao to fight him. He knows that Pacquiao is his only choice to make that 'big money' that he so desperately craves and then wastes. Dude is delusional. Pacquiao's biggest victory would be to kick Mayweather in the balls by fighting Mosley. That'd make poor poor Mayweather teary eyed.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:24:09 PM
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Fe'Roz @ EM and My Brothers @TSS:
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Thank you. I cannot tell you all how much it means to me to be part of this shared universe here at TSS. My comments are nothing more than responses to the great panoply of writers and articles put forward by EM....and the always insightful and passionate responses and insights of all of you. I have learned...and continue to learn ...so much from you all. My own understanding and appreciation for the game we love is elevated every time I open these pages. I can only hope that you know that no matter what my comments, they are always meant with respect and my best understanding of the Sweet Science. Thank you again EM. And All of You. I am humbled. This is a real honor. pc
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:24:44 PM
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Yuvie:
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Plus, Pacquiao has more things to worry about than a snivelling lil brat like an entire country. In retirement, Mayweather will fade into obscurity like he did last time and Pacquiao will be making proper power moves in his own country.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:27:04 PM
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dp69 getting a haircut:
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Bla bla bla bla bla bla......sick and tired of these scareweather
excuses....ANYWAY....here's my new TSS P4P list.....1.Fe'Roz 2. Radam G 3.donputo69 4.#1PacFan 5.EM 6.MisterLee 7.GOAT 8.Salt Lover 9.Yuvie 10.Real Talk....holla back!!!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 02:52:11 PM
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kountedout:
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you have a vivid imagination i dont need you to agree with me. i dont need to be on any p4p list i do know cotto quit against margarito. anytime pressure is put on him he goes into survival mode like in the clottey fight and manny fight. duran was to small for tommy hearns so get it straight. he came from 130. you can twist it all you want makes no difference @mister lee your manny has a better defense then floyd DQ's you and your partners. how ignorant are the wannabe arm chair quarterbacks here when a question come up yet you ignore. floyd has NEVER asked a guy to come down in weight to fight. when a fighter comes down in weight and is weak he can get seriously hurt. his skin can cut very easily. it shows you have no knowledge of this game. call him scary but he has never quit and he never will quit or get stopped by bodyshots. i dont need a validation from you people.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 03:36:28 PM
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what will your excuse be when floyd beats manny, thats why his mother wants him to retire before he fights floyd because she knows he is going to get humiliated. manny dont have to call floyd out. but he could say i would like to fight him in the future. but he all of a sudden cant speak english aaaahh uuummmm duuhhhh ask my promoter you make me laugh.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 03:41:31 PM
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Congratulations Fe'Roz! So well deserved. EM made the perfect choice for ROTY. Enjoy. Be a proud part of the TSS family. You're always on point with straight talk and never get caught up in the petty squabbles some of us do. Love this website and its writers and readership. I don't spend enough time here. I'm busy writing a book these days and rehearsing songs on the side. (If you think my comments are obnoxious, just be glad I can't post MP3s here!) As for spoiled old Floyd, he doesn't deserve a crack at Manny. Manny Pacquiao stepped up and fought Cotto after Floyd ducked Cotto for half a decade. Unless Manny can get the lion's share of a massive payday, let Floyd keep fighting wrestlers and his own cherrypicks until his next phony retirement.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 03:42:45 PM
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@misterlee mannys defense is so good thats why he has cauliflower ears. you make me laugh again TSS aka the stupid stooges
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 03:43:20 PM
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The Saint:
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@Floyd Mayweather Jr aka "kountedout:" Manny Pacquiao doesn't have to do squat. Manny Pacquiao doesn't need to go after a fighter whose best credentials at welterweight are Carlos Baldomir and Arturo Gatti.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 03:47:02 PM
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So you mean to say that bringing a guy in the lower weight division isn't as dangerous as a guy being ask to go down ONE pound to his usual weigh in? It's like Manny asking Vic Darweakchinyan to go up to Jr. Welterweight to fight him. Imagine what Manny would do to him. Fortunately, Floyd is not a dangerous offensive fighter who could've hurt Marquez in there. Many of you say that it wasn't Floyd who called Marquez out but Floyd could've easily have said that he's too little. The question all of you haven't answered from me is, why didn't Floyd accept Mosley's challenge after the Marg fight? While I'll say to yours that if Manny loses to Floyd then Mayweather is the better skilled and dominant fighter in the division. I accept defeats unlike many on here who always come up with excuses.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 04:49:42 PM
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floyd was calling for mosley whan he was still tryna make a name for himself.....and you know what mosley did? he moved on to challenge delahoya......now that floyds hit the big time mosley begging......i thought i told you? shane mosley doesn't deserve a dime......now floyds calling for pacquiao.....i hope he don't make the same mistake.........before the pac/cotto belt everyone was talking how scared floyd was & now that he's calling pacquiao everybody changed tune.....all im hearing is pacquiao should move up and challange anyone but paul williams....or...i wanna see pacquiao/marquez 3......whats wrong with you peolple? the time has arrived........forget everything that happend before........will pacquiao accept the challenge? thats the big question........in the meantime we'll be waiting on a reply lol
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:24:19 PM
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#1floydfan:
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oh and another thing.....what kind of a man jumps in the ring and rips the mike from the champs hands and demands that he fights him? knowing that he turned him down in the past not once but twice........ thats disrespect brother.....the least they could've done is gave the winner his 30 seconds of airtime
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:35:09 PM
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brownsugar : Say My Name,.. Say My Name!!!!:
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Actually Manny has already called out Floyd,.. Publically ,.. it was either after the Oscar or Hatton fight,... loud and clear,... he said " I want to fight Mayweather,.. I want to fight against only the best fighter ",.. Floyd heard it,.. and he knows it,.. But he puts on the Black Hat and plays the haters like a fiddle,.. which is evident by reading these posts,.. as TSS readers manically thumb their keyboards with their most disparaging remarks they can devise,.. one of you guys is going to have an anurism or case of permanent hypertension if you don't relax,. both fighter fought 3 comman opponents,.. 2 of those opponents,.. Oscar and Hatton were far better fighters when they fought Floyd,.. can't say about Marquez,... who wins,.don't really know yet,..... I give Floyd the edge but slightly,.. cause Manny is capable of creating drama like he did against Cotto,.. even though he was weakened,.. I think Manny would still take Cotto on his best day,.. but the biggest fight in history is here to be made,.. and I'll be very appreciative once it's signed and deemed a done deal,.. I won't waste too much of my precious mental faculties discussing it untill we get a valid announcement,.. in the mean time I hope nobody takes all that hate out on thier wives,.. girl friends,.. kids or pets,.. leave it all here on the forums were it belongs fellas....... pc....
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:36:40 PM
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brownsugar : Say My Name,.. Say My Name!!!!:
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funny thing is,.My fiance' is picking Manny,.. and my son who is the best fight caller I've ever seen yet,..still can't decide and he owns the 39 Floyd dvd set... this must be good,...
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:40:34 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Suffering foolish remarks, remarks of shameless fans, remarks unfiltered by objectivity, is one of the less savory parts of sharing this space. And yet we have choices. We can ignore them or we can respond. Knockedout, you have succeeded in making some of the most unsubstantiated criticism and claims on this site. So you will reap what you sow. You are going to receive all the respect and attention of your idol, the former ‘Money’ man in boxing. Pretty Boy Avoid. Speaking of which, let me share a few facts for you to consider and reject. Miguel Cotto fought and beat Paulie Malignaggi at Jr Welter in the spring of 2006, his last fight before moving up to full Welterweight. Six months later, he fought and beat an undefeated Quintana. He has then fought Urkal, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey . And now Pacquiao. I left out two opponents. That is Nine (9) welterweight fights, many against the best boxers in the business, in three (3) years. Your hero, Floyd, turned welter a half a year earlier that Miguel Cotto !! And his choice for his first fight at 147 was the four (4) time loser Sharmba Mitchell. Since then , he has fought five (5) times against Judah, Baldomir, ODLH at 154, Ricky Hatton (at welter) and one of the great feather-weights of our time, JMM. It strikes me that the more you investigate Floyd’s credentials, the worse it looks. He has fought two legit welterweights while Miguel Cotto has battled Nine. To use a phrase coined by Floyd’s equally jealous predecessor, Larry Holmes, about Rocky Marciano legacy, Floyd Pretty boy Mayweather could not carry Miguel Cotto’s jockstrap. So before you try to counter, read the above and reflect. And please take Floyd’s jockstrap off of your head before you do. You might see clearer.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:42:01 PM
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1@angrypeople:
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Yeah, you're right.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 05:46:44 PM
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Scott M:
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Just read on another site that Pacquiao-Cotto may have pulled in 2 million PPV buys. Not sure if it's true yet, but if confirmed, Mayweather can't claim to be boxing's biggest draw anymore.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 06:00:10 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P King":
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You just been knockedout!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 06:48:31 PM
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#1 PacFan "P4P King":
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@Easter, I pray for the day when your mentally ill brain is back in the right state of mind.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 06:51:48 PM
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brownsugar : Say My Name,.. Say My Name!!!!:
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Nice try Fe'Roz,.. but I won't be baited,.. see me after the fight,.. we'll talk then... pc...(the link to the Skysports interview is on ESB, I tried to post it,.. but apparently the posting of a URL is forbidden on this sight..)
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 06:52:14 PM
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brownsugar,..@Fe'Roz:
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Nevermind Fe'Roz I though you were talking to me,.. carry on,.. I'll get back to this subject when and if there is more substantial proof the fight is going to happen,.. Apparently Bob Arum is right,.. this is going to be a tough negotiation,.. I hope for the sake of all this is sacred in boxing that it doesn't fall thru...
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 07:05:13 PM
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Fe'Roz @ Brownsugar:
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One opponent at a time. Now that Knockedout is out of the way, you and I can enjoy sparring together. What say we meet some of our boys over on another article. There are, after all, other fighters to talk about. pc
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 07:22:28 PM
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kountedout:
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i dont agree with you guys so you take your ball and play like little kids and make your list of what you think. thats a child act. I have never seen such grownups act so much like little kids because someone doesnt' agree with you because you like your peeps. Fe'Roz you should go to another article because your girlfriends might agree with you because all of you like manny but it don't work here. I have fireworks that you have no idea of how to deal with. a bunch of guys who doesnt have a idea about boxing. miguel cotto QUIT in the fight with Margarito and he refuses to fight him in a rematch. he knows he will quit again.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:02:23 PM
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kountedout:
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like teddy atlas said cotto wanted to quit against clottey, clottey take that extra step to finish the job. great fighters don't quit and he quit.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:05:22 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Tell me that's not really you, Knockedout. Please say it's Zab using your good name. Either way, you both can give your boy Floyd a run for his money on the floor; the dance floor that is. You both do a wicked "Chicken Dance". Where's Jay Nady?
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:19:12 PM
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Real Talk....I aint got no problems with girlz out in Harlem....but aint nothing like a Brooklyn gir:
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After watching Manny looking like a pit bull in there with Cotto.....man ! I'm leaning Pac ! Reason cuz I don't see May outworking Pac and I don't see him stopping Pac. If Cotto couldn't stop'em with the hard joints...well. Then again.....Cotto left the jab on the dresser and went for war. Plus he looked frail at 145. Cotto has no smother game, doesn't fight in the pocket, wasn't first with the jab, get off and tie Pac up. This breaks your fighters momentum and frustrates a fighter. Cotto didn't look like half the fighter May is....at all. Maybe it's the starvation, but even if he was all the way on his A-game he prolly would've got punished. Manny is a pit bull, Floyd don't turn back the clock and fight like fought Chop Chop , Shrmbe, and Ndoe, I mean attack....he taking a L. He got the skills, but the judges aint letting him coast on this one. He's gonna have to work. Plus it looks like Pac hits harder than Floyd. The whole calling out Pac is BS cuz he passed the buck when Mosley called him out. I know it's $$$ to be got, but don't play the call my name trump !!! Dueces.....p.s. Make me a beleiver Floyd......cuz I aint betting against Pac NO MORE !!!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:35:36 PM
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Real Talk of my J.Y. aaaaaahoooooo!!!:
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I give a ratz about ppv and all that other b.s. Make the fight happen!!! Let's make history baby !! Another Leonard /Duran style joint for the ages!!! A Manny....my bad baby. I got off the train but you doing ya thang. The dude comes ready to box and ready to bang ! So get on your A- game or he gone damage ya brain, one the greatest of all time , controlling the game. Flame.....!!! Whaca
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:43:45 PM
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MisterLee:
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So kounted out... tellme of all the times that bhop was "cut" and had thin skin when he went down 170, different from the usual 175 he fights at and heavier to fight winky and pavlik? Tell me about his weight drained and stuff. Sure sure, p4p list doesn't matter to you, but it's the only list that really matters anywhere. We got thugs, ballers, boxers, writers, experts, expert fantasy arm chair experts, loyal fans, a couple nutcases (i mean this in a good way!!!), and some sages (yuvie, in touch, ultimo, #1 pacsage, pete steward, real talk etc.), so lots of your arguments which are based on strong opinions and little fact (tho a few of them you bend to support your argument) really carry no weight nor inspire the masses. It's funny so many pple tussle with you, you are borderline crazy and groupied.... the floyd fans are quite crazy, but you still are an addition to the TSS Universe. Everyone brings something. @ Fe'roz the Pharaoh, you the man! We follow your lead! @ Real Talk: how those oodles of noodles with hot sauce? Floyd fans are definitely the strangest so far, i mean roy jones fans are one thing, but this guy was once amazing, but floyd fans? THey're defending thin air (his resume). Holler!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 08:56:03 PM
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MisterLee:
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Kounted out makes emotional arguments (name calling), unsubstantiated arguments (this is this b/c I SAID SO), and fouses on small picture rather than big picture issues. It is that very trait that makes him rub pple the wrong way b/c he cannot defend his arguments/claims, and he name calls when his back is agst the wall. This is the trait of someone who leads with their emotions and biases rather than looks objectively at the game. Making a logical argument with him is a waste of time b/c he does not think logically or rationally. Nothing personal agst him, i don't know him, but as a boxing fan or informed enthusiast he cannot make it b/c he doesn't use historical context, valued comparison, and logical reasoning. But it's all good, it's a free space and we all use some to help us deal with the crazier boxing ring of life. Pc!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:02:41 PM
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SALT lover:
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Man, reading some of the posts in here, I wonder what the Floyd critics in this site will say if the fight actually takes place, and Floyd beats Pacquiao. Everybody here's been mopping the floor with Floyd all these months and have been idolizing Pacquiao almost impossible to do more; it's almost as if Floyd was clear garbage in boxing, and yet that's the fight everybody wants to see. Having the favorite fighter winning and some boxing websites giving awards Truly get over people's heads so easily. I remember years ago how Floyd critics and Pacquiao fans here were so shy they almost didn't talked, and now they mouthing everybody they can encounter. If one praises Floyd here, then the person is someone who's "blind", in an "mentally ill brain", with "jockstrap off of your head", "seeing through the mesh of Floyd's drawers", "delusional", and "pathetic". On the other hand, if one praises Pacquiao, then that person is your "brother" and you have to reaffirm his attacks to Floyd with an "Amen" ..........LOL!!!! Regardless of all the insults, Floyd makes a huge impact in boxing. Even Arum admitted that it was Floyd's return to boxing that boosted Pacquiao-Cotto, cuz Floyd's gonna fight the potential winner of that fight; Floyd receives more insults than Pacquiao receives praises and that's a fact. Go to every boxing website, and you'll notice that 7 out of 10 comments are directly at Floyd Mayweather Jr. Floyd was more than right when he said he's in a no-win situation, and that's in and out of the ring: if Pacquiao beats him, that's what everybody wants to see and everybody will celebrate; it's not that people wanna see Floyd fight great fighters, no, no, no, is that people want to see him LOSE. If he wins, then Pacquiao should have nothing to be ashame of, and they'll bring Mosley. If Floyd doesn't fight Pacquiao, Floyd's a "fraud, "a chicken", "Scareweather"; if Pacquiao doesn't fight Floyd, "Manny doesn't need him", "He's already proven himself". Even if Floyd beats Pacquiao (And I strongly believe he will), he'll never receive no credit from anybdoy, cuz that's not who people want to see lose. Floyd's a "chicken" and a"fraud" for not taking on Mosley, but at the same time nobody talks about Pacquiao dodging Mosley too, when Mosley was even willing to drop to 140lbs to fight Pacquiao; and Mosley is more famous and in a much better state in boxing than Cotto, being the Welterweight Champion (And in my opinion a bigger draw). So no matter what Floyd does, he'll lose no matter what...hard position to be in.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:20:54 PM
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SALT lover:
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And as for why I believe Floyd would beat Pacquiao, is cuz Pacquiao has (As the inmense majority of punchers) serious problems with boxers. What sets him apart from all other classic punchers, is that he's a very dynamic fighter than has good movement. He waits his opponents assaults to unleash his own, and overwhelms them with his frontal movement, not neccesarily hurts them, but it overwhelms them, which is what happened to Juan Manuel in the first round of the first fight. As soon as Juan Manuel figured him out and used his timing, Pacquiao's assaults were nullified, and that's when Juan Manuel started to get a piece of his own, when he started to use his boxing and not try to slugg it with him. Pacquiao reminds me a little (I now they're different fighters in many aspects, but except this...) of Felix Trinidad in the sense that they both look super fantastic against people that try to outbrawl, outpunch, and manhandle them. Nobody could outbrawl Trinidad in 147, 154 and 160lbs during his time, and nobody can do that to Pacquiao in 140lbs and 147lbs (Or should I say 145lbs?). But as soon as you put boxers with great defense and counter-punching skills they look more mazed than a crosswords puzzle. That's EXACTLY why Roach said Humberto Soto was more dangerous to Pacquiao than De la Hoya in 2008, cuz he knew De la Hoya was going to try to impose his strength over Pacquiao, and that's when Pacquiao performs best and looks awesome. The same thing goes, I think, to Casamayor who has bigger name, resumé, and attraction than David Diaz. And finally that's why they chose Cotto, over Mosley who's a fantastic counter-puncher, and can be a slick fighter too; even when Cotto was hurt in the fight, he was able to dodge some of the punches Pacquiao was throwing at him, and I'm not talking about the final rounds when Cotto was running, but in the middle rounds. And in those things, nobody does it better than Floyd Mayweather Jr (40-0). And I think Floyd's role in this fight, if materialize, will be Bernard Hopkin's, as Pacquiao's role will be similar to 'Tito's'. I know that at this point it's almost funny, but that's the way I see it.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:39:00 PM
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mayweather lovers just love to say how their boy is the biggest ppv draw ever, or how their boy just called out pacquiao and pacquiao hasnt' answered.
well i've got great news for you and your provocative, deranged logic.
people wanted to see the extremely popular de la hoya bust their nasty foul-mouthed boy. de la hoya, and not mayweather has the best PPV figures of all time. and now, people want to see the pacman vs moneyman fight because they know that the pacman will do what de la hoya -- who can never be classified either as a brave nor killer boxer -- miserably failed to do. it will be the pacman's ppv numbers you will be seeing and not the cringer's in 2010.
only black americans want to see their moneyman boytoy. on the other hand, the rest of the world are fascinated by the pacman. check out google and check out the sports columns too. only seconds ago, google has 12,300,000 hits on pacquiao; mayweather has a measly 4,910,000 hits only, and de la hoya a mere 3,410,000 results.
as for your absolutely deranged logic on calling out, the FACT remains that Mosley brutally called him out and the moneyman said that he felt insulted and would never fight mosley. so from the very mouth and deeds of the insane mayweather, you could already see his fear -- he wants pacquiao to feel insulted too so he will not bother to fight the mouth-powered one.
real killers do not bother to call out and insult others. they just kill, plain and simple. if ever the moneyman is man enough to sign up, the pacman express will certainly render him as roadkill in the ring. guaranteed.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 09:59:05 PM
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kountedout:
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@misterlee you are a huge brown eye kisser. how can someone make any logical arguments when you say such wild things like Bhop being cut. Bhop has never been cut. why do you even talk when you know nothing about the sport? I have more knowledge in boxing and the history of boxing than you would ever know. yes its a free space an i never did talk at someone until they talk at me. i just voice my opinion. whether you like it or not doesnt bother me because if I dont like your comments they shouldnt bother you if you believe in them. you write biography's that i never read. i have never read any of your comments until you said something to me. you are a typical follower. i don't think rationally because i dont agree with you guys who does not do anything in boxing yet you think you know everything. when you are wrong im going tell you that. you call floyd a thug yet you dont know him.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:14:52 PM
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blue4cor:
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Hello Floyd......Why did you fight the smaller Marquez then when you allready knew the fact that you wouldn't be credited for. YOU CAN CATCH THE FISH BY ITS MOUTH.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:29:36 PM
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MisterLee:
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Hey Kounted Out! in the english language, the use of "quotation marks" is an indicator of sarcasm and humor, you've completely missed! The example was used as an example of how a fighter goes down in weight, which YOU said, makes their skin thinner and more easy to cut in addition : "how ignorant are the wannabe arm chair quarterbacks here when a question come up yet you ignore. floyd has NEVER asked a guy to come down in weight to fight. when a fighter comes down in weight and is weak he can get seriously hurt. his skin can cut very easily." so bhop came down in weight, how come he didn't cut according to your expert knowledge. You have such a high boxing pedigree, please tell who your trainer is/was, what your amateur record is, and what titles you've won. I'm interested in knowing all your knowledge which i only notice from insults, being Floyd's top 5 groupies, and apparently responding to pple without reading their comments (my my, the literacy in America is dropping!) The fact that you fail to fairly compare pacquiao's resume to floyd's shows your ignorance in the game. Also someone who brags openly about how much they know really in reality dunno SH*(# T. That's my stance. Take it or leave, mr. "oh no everyone's not a grown up, lemme just call them names and keep jerking off to floyd videos..." kounted out. Haha.. have a good one.
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 10:39:44 PM
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Isaiah:
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Mayweather has nothing on Pacquiao and that B.S. Pay Per VIew record he has with Oscar De La Hoya is truly epic. The world will not be fooled again. You Mayweather fans want to scream about how Mayweather came out of retirement and got 1 million PPV buys. You delusional fools refuse to see how big Marquez's fan base is, how Mayweather faked a rib injury to provide more time for interest, how the fight was moved to theaters as well and how the fight was on Mexican Independence Day and you want to brag? By the way, wasn't the theater sells added in with regular PPV sells? Did Pacquiao/Cotto need any bullcrap hype? NO!!! The public saw what would be a great fight and bought it and I believe people were not dissapointed unlike every Mayweather event! Floyd will never have anything on the Pacman! NEVER!!!
Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 11:23:47 PM
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cotto:
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Pacquiao=less talk, more action....EXCITING!!!
mayweather=more talk, less action...BORING!!!
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 12:00:25 AM
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Peter:
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I don't remember ever hearing Pacquiao call out another fighter in public. Mayweather is silly thinking Pacquiao would change now. But I hope the fight is made within a year!!! Hooray!
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 12:06:55 AM
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#1 PacFan P4P Greatest Of All Time!:
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This is our time Salt! Mano a Mano! PacFan vs Saltlover, Pacquiao vs Mayweather. I told you this time would come, I sense a little weakness from you. Manny is going to prove EVERYONE once again(like million times) that he is ONE of the greatest of all time.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 12:13:59 AM
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#1 PacFan P4P Greatest Of All Time!:
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I thought all of you haters would be used to all these accolades and mad props Manny is getting. This has been on-going for quite a while now.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 12:17:59 AM
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Usahfu:
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Floyd, floyd, floyd, floyd...........floyd. The boy good and all...mad defensive ability...hand speed....and a very big mouth piece. Yall forget he ducked "el popo" Frietas, ducked Casamayor, and the reason being we the people gave him a pass. we were not as adament about making it happen. Refresh your caps and think back. Let me be be fair....I obviously can't assure you those guys would have beat him, though the argument is strong in either case, we must accept the boy fled the scene with bitness still at hand. This time though he can't run to another division, this is it. No other fighter to offer a bigger challenge to a man who said it is the love of the sport that drives him. This is it. I feel his ego obligates him into making that claim that Pacman is reluctant to call him out. Fair enough, I would do the same as would 99% of us with something to prove and the skill to do it. Something to prove indeed because their is one more great little man who has done it just like he has. Moved up in weight and taken on all comers with impressive wins over overmatched opossition. Two common opponents. Bigger victories by the Pacman. Now, if both men where just the shells of what they once where or whatever, so be it, he made quick work of them just like he should have. Granted winning is winning, the win column does not account for impressive vs. JUST winning. We do. I do. And all you pretty boy fanatics do too, you just can't say it when you defend your boy. I feel you. Floyd does not have to expend more energy than he has to to pull off an impressive convincing landslide W. And I must add, must add, B E A utiful display of boring boxing, only because I like M F's throwing hands to produce the impressive. The only victory I give Mr. Mayweather credit for is the very impressive blow out of golden boy. He stood toe to toe with the bigger man and handed him his A@#. Job well done, I cheared and cheared.... I love boxing.......it happens from time to time. Money is at the to of his game still...no question....the challenge of fighting Manny should produce a performance equal in my eyes to the golden boy fight....without the W for Floyd of course, but he will give it all he's got, he has to. Manny wont let him do anything else but give all he's got. Similar if not superior hand speed, equal foot speed and footwork...for their respective styles....more power.....although a good shot landed from either man can do damage....physics being what it is...speed equals power and all that coupled with he didn't see the punch coming... it will be war, chess, and yes I believe action. The none stop ferocity of Manny is the key and difference. Floyd can not lay back in the cut and pot shot his way to victory. He wont. Manny is a 6 punch combination with pop that don't stop, and does not seem to tire. And Manny has a quiet deceptive evil quality masked by his giddyness. The man likes to hurt you inside that ring... No pitty. You step up and he'll ablige. That's his job. He makes reference to it after every fight. The man is the perfect storm. Floyd great defensive fighter, and i mean great. Best of this era...no disrespect to Winky....or Roy Jones Jr. for that matter........let me clarify, Jones of about 7,8,9 years ago when he was king. Jones before Winky I jumped the gun a little bit........sorry Jones JR.......no comparison I know but hey it is just comparison to defense not overall package. Pacman is Floyd's polar opposite with more gravitational pull. Pacman im my book earns the victory in an epic and highly anticipated bout witch should happen. Neither fighter can avoid it. The people run the numbers...ppv numbers that is.....and to be retired the best their paths must cross it inevitable. Lastly and sadly boxing still needs it.
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 01:07:01 AM
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Smiley C:
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Manny is going to beat Mayweather. Write a treatise fo' sure!
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 02:13:13 AM
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Castro@EM:
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Why was my post removed? Come on man....people are talking way more trash than me & I GET REMOVED?!?!
Wait! Is it cuz my name? I swear I'm not writing from CUBA! lol Even though I wish I was?
Please post it.......again. These guys are big boys - they can handle it. :)
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 05:50:03 PM
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SALT lover@Castro:
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Dude! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The name stuff you told the editor was funny as hell!!! Wait! Is it cuz my name? I swear I'm not writing from CUBA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wednesday Nov 18, 2009 07:26:31 PM
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john bagay:
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TOU KNOW THIS GUY MAYWEATHER JR TALKS LIKE HIS DAD... BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MAYWEATHER JR. WHY DONT U COME UP TO THE PLATE AND TELL MANNY THAT YOU WANT TO FIGHT WITH HIM... AND THIS TIME DON'T THINK ABOUT MONEY JUST THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WILL PROVE THE WHOLE WORLD THAT YOUR STILL THE BEST BOXER... AND PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU CAN REALLY BEAT MANNY CUZ YOU DONT HAVE ANY PROOF YET THAT YOU CAN REALLY BEAT THIS NUMBER ONE POUND TO POUND BOXER OF THE WORLD AND THATS NO ANOTHER THAN THE PEOPLE'S CHAMP " MANNY PACQUIAO..."
Thursday Nov 19, 2009 02:11:16 AM
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quilesvictoria:
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Mayweather will run, " as usual" Manny will chase, and will win!!!
Mayweather talks too much... Actions do speak louder than words, and Manny knows this
Thursday Nov 19, 2009 09:37:35 AM
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dino da vinci:
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Congratulations Fe'Roz! When TSS launched five years ago, it was with the intention of assembling the best boxing writers from around the world. This was with the hope of attracting the intelligent boxing enthusiast, and if there was no real readership interest, well, then we would build this site, rather selfishly, for ourselves. However, even before TSS completed its first full year of existence, it virtually swept the online section (I believe the exception was Hauser) at the BWAA Awards Banquet, honoring boxing journalism. So, evidently, we were successful. It was Michael Woods idea to get the opinions of our readers. "They have a lot to say", he said. "A lot." What we didn't realize at that moment, many times would they not only make a great point, but do so in a highly intelligent, well written way. So Fe'Roz, we thank you for your insights into the Sweet Science, and we thank Editor Mike for realizing there would be Fe'Rozs out there that needed to be heard...and the boxing world is all the better for it.
Thursday Nov 19, 2009 01:00:12 PM
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Fe'Roz @ dino da vinci:
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Thank you and EM for giving us the forum to share our opinions and pen our passions
Thursday Nov 19, 2009 10:08:17 PM
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dino da vinci@ Fe'Roz:
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You are more than welcome. One tidbit that I would like to add. This site is read by everybody that matters in the fight game, and I mean everybody. Over the years it has been satisfying to hear from the people who comprise the sport. Of course, they are not always in agreement with what has been mentioned. However, I think it is safe to say that they know there are no hidden agendas. Also, we've become surprised only upon learning someone doesn't view the site. Lastly, I speak for only myself when I say I've come to love the comment section. Always read the first few and then skip to find the people who's insights I have grown to respect. I wonder how many others do the same?
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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