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Santiago Lacks Big Fight ExperienceWill It Matter?
By Ron Borges
LAS VEGAS – No one has to tell 32-year-old Joe Santiago that he is sorely lacking in Big Fight Experience but someone seems to be yelling it in his direction every few days anyway, just in case he hasn’t heard. While the young trainer of welterweight champion Miguel Cotto says he is unmoved by the constant speculation about what he is lacking, frankly he could do without it.
Chief among those speculators has been one of the craftiest trainers in boxing, the one Santiago must try to outwit Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena while much of the boxing world is waiting for him to waver under the weight of a type of pressure he has never felt before.
Freddie Roach, three-time winner of BWAA Trainer of the Year honors and the man who has prepared Manny Pacquiao for all of his recent Big Fights, including this weekend’s confrontation with Cotto, has regularly pointed out the Grand Canyon sized hole in Santiago’s resume, surely hoping these reminders will create in Cotto the most dangerous thing in boxing – doubt.
They have been the opening rounds of the game within the game, one that will continue at the final press conference and the rules meeting and the weigh-in and into the locker rooms on fight night when hands are being wrapped and reminders of what that may have once meant to Cotto may be hinted at.
Both the champion and the man he chose to replace his dismissed uncle, Evangelista, as his chief second insist this is all merely gamesmanship on the part of Roach. They say it does not affect them, that they are unwavering in their faith in each other. Perhaps this is so, yet still Santiago has had to answer the questions about his fitness for the task he is undertaking again and again and that can wear on a guy.
For seven years an assistant to Evangelista Cotto, who handled his nephew’s boxing career until he was replaced after making the ill-advised business decision to throw a punch at the champion during a disagreement in a San Juan gymnasium, Santiago believes he has served his apprenticeship and thus looks upon his elevation not as a trial but as an opportunity.
One man’s misfortune is another’s chance and that is how Santiago sees the chance he’s been given but where he sees an opportunity to prove his mastery of the dark art of boxing, many, including his chief rival, see a bigger likelihood that he is more overmatched than his fighter, who is facing the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world according to anyone who opines on such matters.
Certainly there seemed to be some confusion in Cotto’s corner in his last fight, Santiago’s first as chief second, when potential disaster loomed. Although Cotto ultimately outputted Joshua Clottey to position himself for the biggest payday of his career, the fight was more difficult than some expected and was punctuated with high drama and unexpected disorder in his corner after he was seriously cut by Clottey.
Santiago acknowledges those problems but insists they had nothing to do with his inexperienced or, worse, any sense of panic in his mind. They were, he says, logistical problems caused by outside forces.
“Sometimes in the corner we were a little late getting in and getting out and where we should be in between rounds,’’ Santiago acknowledged recently. “We had different people going in there and at times it was difficult to work. The way the New York Commission set things up was a problem.
“Overall it was just a question of how (cut man Joe) Chavez would get in there and how we want to use him and how we want to work. I think that having Joe Chavez here for most of the training camp was important. We are going to know him and he is getting to know us and he knows how we work. That is going to be beneficial.
“There were really no mistakes about the way we wanted to do the fight. I think the strategy was fine.’’
It was at least fine enough that the bloodied Cotto survived, fighting well enough in the end to move on to this opportunity. Frankly, he looked better than he had in his first fight following the terrible beating he took from Antonio Margarito last year, a defeat many of his doubters believe he has been unable to shake.
No one will ever know if the fists that beat him that night were loaded with the same hardening substances later found on Margarito’s hand wraps before he fought Shane Mosley but he was suspended for at least a year for that and it not only disgraced him but left a schism of doubt between Cotto and his uncle because it was his cornerman’s responsibility to examine those wraps before the fight, as Nazim Richardson had done for Mosley. That he did not* and that an hour later Cotto was forced to quit on one knee, his face beaten to a swollen and bloody pulp for the only time in his career, may be unrelated but then again this is boxing and who knows?
As Cotto has said, only Margarito knows for sure just as only Santiago knows for sure what he is feeling on the inside as the biggest fight of Cotto’s life nears. What everyone knows is that Cotto could have picked from a wide assortment of the world’s best trainers, all anxious to work with someone who only three fights ago was considered to be the best welterweight in the world.
He still may be but to regain that place he must put Pacquiao in his place, which is why so many in boxing were surprised that he chose the inexperienced Santiago in the end to prepare him. The young trainer was not however, believing he held an edge over all of them that will benefit his fighter come Saturday night.
“I’ve known him for seven years and I know they talked about bringing in well-known trainers but I think the fact that I have known him a long time and he feels comfortable with me gave me an advantage over all those guys,’’ Santiago said. “I think it’s just a question of getting everybody on the same page. I think we’ve done that.
“I had been around camp for seven years so I know how he prepares himself. I know him very well. The confidence that the Cotto family had in me made me feel good. I know I was well prepared and I know I have the capacity to do this job.’’
In a few days he will have the opportunity to prove that although, in the end, Roach has always said the fighter makes the trainer and not the other way around. Santiago could be eminently qualified to train a boxer and simply have the wrong fighter this night. But in a fight of such magnitude the trainer’s actions and reactions in the corner as problems arise will have much to do with the outcome.
If it goes as Roach has predicted, an early knockout, then trainers will have had little to do with it. But if it is the kind of pitched battle fans hope for, with the ebbs and flows of blood and sweat that come with it, then the trainer’s work will be of pivotal importance.
Joe Santiago understands this, just as he understands the world is full of skeptics and doubters. When it came to him, Miguel Cotto was not one of them. Soon the world will see if it is rewarded or if the wise old trainer across the ring knew what he was talking about all along.
“A lot of people are picking Pacquiao to beat him and he is motivated by that,’’ Santiago said of his fighter. “Without question all the fighters want to be great and all the fighters want to be the best. Miguel has that little extra because the people don’t think he can win this fight. We know he can win and he knows he can win but he’ll have to show everyone what he’s capable of doing against this type of opponent.’’
Joe Santiago was talking about Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao when he said that but he could have been talking about himself and Freddie Roach. On the night they will, in a way, be one and the same. Fighter and trainer melded together, their fates and their future intertwined.
“I don’t see this as me fighting Freddie Roach,’’ Santiago said. “I know he has a done a lot in boxing. I have a lot of respect for what Freddie Roach has done but it has nothing to do with us. It’s the fighters that are going to do the fighting.
“They are going to do the work and we have our work to do. As long as our guy wins we are going to get recognized for it. Once Miguel wins, they are going to recognize that we have a great corner, a great team. That’s the way I look at it. It has nothing to do with me and Freddie Roach. I am preparing Miguel Cotto to fight Pacquiao. That’s my job.’’
Indeed it is and soon we will learn how well that job was done.
*ED NOTE---It has been reported by Robert Morales that Evangelista was in fact in the room, watching Margarito get his hands wrapped. This according to Keith Kizer, Nevada commissioner, and NVAC employee Jack Lazzarotto. Promoter Bob Arum still insists Evangelista was not present.
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deepwater:
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Cotto is a pro and will handle his business in the ring. its more about the fighter then the trainer.roach is an old pro at using headgames
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 11:45:06 AM
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#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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If Cotto has his mindset on a great gameplan then he shouldn't have trouble in there. When it's time to adjust I have no doubt that Santiago will be in mute to Cotto which is why he needs to be discipline enough to remember he's a pro who has been there before. Roach made a great point when he said that Cotto is training himself. As well as Richardson stated that he might not be comfortable getting instructions from Santiago. Communication is the factor between Cotto and Santiago.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 12:18:03 PM
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arturo:
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they got through the Clottey fight so that shows that Santiago is not bad.ODH had so many famous trainers and he never developed a certain style, after his losses he would blame it on them.I think Cotto knows what he is doing with his corner
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 01:48:08 PM
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RIVERSIDE:
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joe santiago will do just fine, all trainers have different ways of getting the job done, cotto had problems with his uncle because his uncle must of been on his a$$ all the time, cotto is dicipline he know what need to be done, sometime you see great trainer giving advise to there boxers and boxers do the opposite of what they are beign told,[ like papaweather and hatton vs pacman] i can't see that with cotto, he will listen to santiago, his uncle must of treated him like treating a little boy who doesn't listen
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 03:35:34 PM
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Bad:
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I Dont think Santiago prepared Cotto properly. Looks like he's training for a slow fighter and he admitts that they did nothing different in training. Same way only difference is they get too play in the swimming pool and invite their family over for a family reunion and play golf once in awhile. You know like CLUB MED. Lots of fun and leisure time and SLOOOOWWWWW TRAAAINNIINNNGG with wrong sparring partners and firing the right ones that make Cotto look bad. Why adjust to some who makes you look bad. No need what Cotto wants Cotto gets its really he who's training himself no need for anyone to point out his mistakes. And Im so lazy that I wont duck in mitt practice "I want you santiago to pet my head not like Pac when he practice with Roach Pac actually ducks to avoid a fake mitt punch" Hey I want the softest easiest training camp ever". I'm Cotto Uncle Evangelist is an excellent trainer but Im so full of it I think Im the best trainer for myself"
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 04:06:09 PM
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Sid:
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You know the difference in preparation between Cotto & Pac is Night & Day!!! One camp has sparring partners that actually have a chance to beat Cotto while the other camp have sparring partners that would barely beat Hatton, Dela Hoya & Diaz and Pac made them look like sparring partners. Pacs sparring parter shawn porter gave pac problems and later Pac adjusted and KO'd him twice. Cotto's sparring partner gives Cotto problems and instead of learning to adjust to it he fires him and the guy is lighter then Cotto hahahaha. When Pac is frustrating you Cotto you cant fire pac!!! Say hello to the same Ambulance Driver that you had to get into after fighting Margarito!! Las Vegas must be a NIGHTMARE place for you!!
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 04:18:40 PM
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Radam G__________:
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It is nonsense that boxing is not a team sports, and that you can train yourself. Cotto is in trouble. He should have kept his uncle. And since he didn't, he should have brought in a seasoned trainer. Cotto will not get a beat by a thousand and one Pacpunches. He won't be able to take many. And won't be able to see where they are coming from. Santiago won't know what Team PacMan is doing. Firepower is dudpower for Team Cotto. Cotto is a great warrior who will last as long as he can. And he will take a beating, if he could stand up to PacPower. He cannot, so he won't suffer much physical damage. Holla!
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 04:49:44 PM
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#1floydfan:
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don't count him out because of his age.........wasn't mike tyson only 20 when he first won the HW tittle? didn't alexander conquer half the world @ age 21? you never know joe santiago might be a future hall of famer
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 04:54:24 PM
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Alokwe@#1floydfan:
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When you brought up Tyson I thought you were about to mention Kevin Rooney (the guy on my mind when I was reading this piece), he was even younger than this Santiago fella. He was 30 when he guided Mike to the top of the world.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 05:59:54 PM
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TotoyBato:
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Joe Santiago was not even a boxer. You can see how he holds the mitts (HBO 24/7) he follows a set of repetitive motions, he does not give Miguel the feedback that he needs. I like the way Emmanuel Stewart works the mitts, he bobs his head pretending he's being hit. I guess Joe Santiago being just a college boy and never a boxer may not have the vision that comes from experience. What kind of instructions would he give Miguel in dire straits. Would Miguel, knowing Joe's shortcomings, follow instructions or will Miguel follow his own instincts (which are sometimes flawed). The extra pair of eyes in the corner will be of no use if they cannot decipher the situation and communicate to the fighter. This is only one of Team Cotto's disadvantage and this is brought about by Miguel's own arrogance of not realizing the need for a proper chief second. Freddy Roach is right, Miguel is basically training himself and will probably fight a plan that is already formulated by his own mind.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 06:41:00 PM
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maestro:
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Of course trainers matter. Big time. Otherwise why not just go train or fight without one.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 07:10:23 PM
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Radam G___________:
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Kevin Rooney had been an amateur boxer since he was 12 years old and started boxing professional at 24 years old. He had amateur and professional experience. He was a bronze medalist in the 1976 National AAU Boxing Championships and a quarterfinalist in the 1978 one (1978 may be the wrong year). He learned from an old master and a young master of the game. I'll let some other reader holla their names. Santiago has neither. He has just been around the game for seven years. Dude is greener than __________(fill in the blank). Holla!
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 08:10:28 PM
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ali:
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I watch that Clottey fight again and I think Santiago gave Cotto great advice during the fight. I think that he's going to do good I have no worries about Santiago I think he's ready for the big time.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 08:35:59 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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The title is a rhetorical question; it's answer, at least on paper, obvious. Yes, if this fight enters the championship rounds, it will matter. Let me put it this way, if Barack Obama was about to enter negotiations with Iran the day after Iran tests it's first Long Range Nuclear Missile toward Israel, would you feel confident if he took his Campaign Manager David Axelrod to advise and guide him......on our/your behalf. Or would you prefer a seasoned diplomat, let's say, the Secretary of state for instance.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 08:44:16 PM
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Suits, Stop Squabbling, And Posturing, AND MAKE FIGHTS!
"Floyd may very well be the most talented boxer but that he does not understand that what the fans, who ultimately pay the bills, watch fights for is entertainment. At the moment, he not only ignores that reality but frankly doesn't seem to care. Neither about our wishes and/or our passion for to see great fights. Thus, there is little Go ... and even less Show. I am vaguely interested in the Business of Boxing. Frankly, it is a mess on a good day and worse on it's worst. I prefer reading the Business pages where brilliant men and women develop skills and strategies to create incredible value and wealth (for themselves and others) in ways far more effectively and meaningfully than those who Rule ...some might say Ruin...this beautiful Sport." --FE'ROZ, speaking for a majority of fight fans
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