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Tuesday Nov 3, 2009

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TSS As PI: Searching 24/7 For Clues To Cotto-Pacquiao

By Michael Woods

Examining HBO's 24/7 for clues which might affect the outcome of the upcoming fight is one of the most enjoyable aspects of watching the expertly crafted infomercial. In the second installment of the Pacquiao-Cotto docudrama miniseries, TSS played PI, and looked for anything in the fighters' actions, physiques or behaviors that might inform a fight fan what is likely to unfold on Nov. 14, when Manny Pacquiao tries to secure a seventh title in a seventh weight class from WBO welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto in a 145 pound "catchweight" clash.

In the previous installment, we saw Cotto mixing business with pleasure; it looked like his training camp in Florida, away from distractions in his native Puerto Rico, took a load off the fighter with the frequently furrowed brow. In contrast, Pacquiao's camp was a picture less tranquil. He chose to stay in Baguiao, a region beset by severely foul weather, causing his trainer Freddie Roach to firmly request that the fighter switch up his plans, and decamp to a safer spot, free from typhoons, and perhaps, leeching politicians hoping to get a bump in the polls with a endorsement from Manny.


In the second episode, viewer saw a previously perturbed Roach in Manila, having made the eight-hour trek from Baguiao without Pacquiao. They hugged it out, it was made clear, and got back on track preparing for Cotto. Or, they got back on track as much as Manny's demigod status allows—fans clamor to touch the fighter whenever he exits Gerry Penalosa's gym. But Pacquiao seems to be able to clear his mind of distractions. And Roach makes sure of it, offering a $1,000 bounty to any sparring partner who dumps Manny on his can. So far, Shawn Porter and Jose Luis Castillo haven't been able to get that extra spiff in their envelope, but the added impetus gives Pacman more reason to stay on message in training, and tells viewers that at this juncture, at least, it certainly appears that all the money and adoration he enjoys hasn't swelled his head, and won't pave the way for a fall to Cotto.


Back to Cotto—the Puerto Rican hitter welcomed Miguel the 3rd to Tampa, for a week-long visit to see pop do his thing. That includes pre-dawn workouts at a local track. Perhaps the "stamina thing," Cotto's supposed tendency to fade in the last third of fights, will not be an issue come Nov. 14, if these track workouts have been installed, or modified, to speak to his gas-tank woes? Team Cotto did manage to get some chill-time in, going golfing, and viewers with old-school values might wonder if Miguel is splitting his focus too much, taking too much time with his son, instead of eating, breathing and sleeping Pacquiao 24-7.


Then again, Manny does manage to have a varied life during training camp. Witness Pacman's duet with a female vocalist on the 1977 Dan Hill classic "Sometimes When We Touch," which he filmed for a Filipino TV network as part of a farewell concert. That went swimmingly, but there was still the matter of the conflict within his crew. Fitness coach Alex Ariza and advisor Michael Koncz haven't been getting along, and snipe at each other in front of Manny, who stays above the fray, seemingly untouched by the chaos. Can Manny truly be as unruffled by the beefing as he appears?


A viewer watching this installment might wonder whether Cotto's sparring partners are of a lesser breed than Pacquaio's and be left to think that Pacman's camp is that much more effective than Miguel's. Cotto gets work in with 9-3-1 southpaw Kenny Abril, from Rochester, NY, and 7-1 Georgian lefty Fred Tukes. Contrasted with Pacman's crew, which included 26-1 Mexican Urbano Antillon, 10-0 Shawn Porter from Ohio and former lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo (60-9-1), it does seem like Cotto's getting gypped in this department. Perhaps the time spent studying films of Pacquiao on the part of Miguel's dad Miguel Sr.  and 32-year-old trainer Joe Santiago will compensate.


At Roach's Wild Card Gym, Pacquiao looks trim and on message. He doesn't seem put off by the absence of Michael Moorer, who helped Roach while Manny got ready for Ricky Hatton, and rubbed Manny the wrong way with his brusque manner. The Wild Card looks cramped but homey, while Cotto's training zone in Tampa looks roomier, but more complicated. Viewers see his wife Melissa, who he'd been estranged from, is back in the picture. She comes to the gym, with two more kids, and Miguel's mom, who wears an expression none too joyous. Perhaps those relationships don't siphon an ounce of Cotto's mental energy, perhaps he is relieved to be unburdened from the presence of his uncle Evangelista, who he split from in the spring. But we saw Miguel's dad admit he and his bro have severed ties totally, one wonders if having all these sticky family issues in his face benefits Cotto two weeks before his big bout.


Viewers-readers, feel free to share any insights you've picked up watching 24/7 in the comments section.

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Anony:  LIKE I SAID BEFORE... I"M COPYING MIGUEL COTTO'S MENTALLITY FOR THIS FIGHT so I believe all the talking from Roach and the media overhyping Pacquiao is just too much bla, bla, bla and not fair. Miguel is the champion and is focused all the way while Pacquiao is portrayed as a winner already. Coming november 13th only them will be up there in the ring. Let the fists do the talking.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:50:39 PM
Uncle knows best:  Meddling fathers mean an a$$ spanking is coming. Uncle Evangelista knows boxing. Daddy Don Miguel knows not. Camp Cotto and Life Cotto are in chaos. They are putting on a public charade. But something is gonna rain on that parade. I'm waiting for Avila's copy from LA.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:03:57 PM
GOAT:  At this point in his career, Cotto knows what's neccesary to win. It's nothing that a trainer can do for him besides viewing fight tapes of Pac. Also, different fighters train differently. If Pac wants former and future champs to spar with that's fine. If Cotto chooses young up and comming fighters, that's fine also. Every fighter trains different and whatever Cotto and Pac are doing it's clearly working for them. By the way, did I say Cotto by 8 round TKO.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:13:52 PM
jd:  pac within 5. here's my reason why... pac is faster and stronger in real life. videos of pac, doesn't give him justice. diaz, odlh, hatton were supposedly bigger and stronger than the pacman, but they all came crashing down... cotto better listen to what diaz said on post fight, stating that he won't trust videos again for training. if cotto gets hurt in the early rounds, look for pacman to put him away like he did with hatton. if it goes past 5, i'd expect the same beating he put on odlh. in fairness, cotto is a tough mofo, but i don't think he'll catch manny with the left hook too much.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:43:59 PM
JohnnyR:  There is no magical game plan and no secret training. It's just a mental game used to psych out the opponent. One of the things Cotto's trainer and dad talk about is analysing Pacquiao's size, stamina ability and the effect of his punch by comparing it to "Junior". (A fully grown welterweight) Basically stating and 'believing' that Pacquiao won't be able to get away with attacking Cotto with bunches of punches. "He goes crazy", "He won't be able to do that with Junior". (i.e. due to his smaller 130 lb frame) I also read this in Cotto's statements. (Over confident) This is almost the same belief shared by Hatton. What I don't get is these guys are constantly around boxing, and don't seem to understand why Pacquiao carries his power with the weight. (btw, It's because his weight is behind his punch.) Cotto could step into the ring over confident and try to walk right through Pacquiao.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:56:41 PM
DaveB:  The saddest part was Miguel's father had to choose between his brother or his son. That is one decision I would never want to be a part of. That has to leave some serious pain in your heart. I think it will only affect the fight in as far as how good a trainer the uncle is in prepping the fighter. But these things do weigh upon you.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:00:36 PM
Saul @ Anony:  I agree with you on that there is too much hype for this fight being Pacquiao-Cotto and not Cotto-Pacquiao. Cotto is the champion and should have first billing for everything but I dont't know how it's always said as Pacquiao vs Cotto. I think that is very disrespectful to Cotto.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:12:51 PM
GOAT @ Annoy:  Man hommey, I NEVER agree with you but you're right on with this one. Cotto is the champ and I even used Pac's name first when referring to them. You're on it! I still believe Cotto is going to win in brutal fashion but the media is playing him like he's the challenger and that should not be. Only two more weeks and it will be an afterthought.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:17:38 PM
Smiley C:  SAD! No doubt! It should not have happened. Chose a trainer, not a brother or son and respect the champ. But I pick Pacman to win fo' sure!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 04:11:02 PM
isodro md:  pac will win in nov 13, that it. hombres! accept it. swallow it!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:09:31 PM
arturo:  Man you know Cotto has to be hitting that wifey,so all that running isn't going to help his conditioning.Oscar was always getting tired too, but he had Millie to satisfy.DAMN i'd be out of shape if my lady was a model too.Id have have to send her with her parents cause otherwise i wouldnt show up to practice twice a week due to weak legs.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:30:31 PM
John Dumas:  Freddie Roach predicted Cotto will fall in the first round. He's never wrong with his prediction. Manny is too fast and too strong. So beware Cotto. You're only chance to go past round one is to run and dance away from Pacquiao. Sorry for you.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:34:37 PM
Jon:  Ok dude...I think you're going to watch the wrong fight on Nov. 13th. Manny and Miguel's fight is going to occur on Nov. 14th. FYI.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 07:54:39 PM
MANG RESTY:  Cotto is entirely to blame if he loses to Manny.Training should not be mixed with pleasure.Somehow I have this notion that this is Cotto's farewell fight. Pacquiao fans are invited to visit his fan site at www pacfans-corner com
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:52:04 PM
ruben garcia:  I am hoping for a great fight. There will be a winner but no loser. A new champion , TKO in five. Rematch in March 2010.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:08:28 PM
Par:  I agree with jd. diaz, dela hoya, and hatton got ko'd because they underestimated pacquiao's speed and the amount of damage he can inflict when you can't see him hitting you. cotto seems smarter than those guys and can adjust during a fight so i think he stands a good chance of winning. This could turn out to be a really amazing fight, but if either one slacks off in training due to overconfidence someone is going to get KTFO in the early rounds. I wouldn't rely on 24/7 for insight - I enjoy it but HBO has to play up the drama to create hype around 2 mild-mannered non-American boxers.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:22:59 PM
hughey:  Ya, I know what I see, Pacquiao is going to SMOKE this guy ! His friggin hand speed and power ! OMG ! Advice to Cotto - keep ducking down !!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:24:55 PM
Badass:  Its Pac vs Cotto because Pac is P4PKing while Cotto beat a bum not a champ to get his belt!!! Pac is the draw not Cotto. Without pac and Cotto barely gets 1 million. With pac and Cotto gets 10million or more. Do you understand Cotto fans!!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:37:09 PM
BigRedDog:  Both fighters can go toe to toe, but ever since the Diaz fight Manny has evolved into a different fighter, not the crazy swinging young fighter he was at the lighter divisions. He has really changed in his accuracy and strength, and versatility with his right hand. Don't get me wrong, Cotto is a big and strong fighter, but he is a lot slower and can be stunned with the right shots. As stated earlier, Cotto isn't doing himself any good fighting inexperienced southpaws. They may stand like Manny but have no where near the speed on offense and defense, so that could completely throw off his timing. Cotto loves to throw that right body shot, and i wouldn't be surprised if Manny's deadly left catch him right on the chin. I expect Cotto to be overwhelmed with Manny's speed and get worn down and knocked out in the 5th, 6th round if not earlier. Either way, i eagerly look forward to the fight, it should be a good one.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:37:36 PM
the Roast:  I love these two fighters. Warriors to the bone. I am picking Pacquiao by KO in the 5th. Just a gut feeling.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:53:11 PM
Louie S. Amada:  Manny Pacquiao is a sure winner in his fight against Miguel Cotto. I don't care whether its by KO or decision.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:14:13 PM
Louie S. Amada:  Its Manny Pacquiao. I dont care whether by KO or by decision
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:16:44 PM
SteveOV:  I agree with everything BigRedDog is saying. The other thing I would like to add is the differences in the trainers. Roach has taken that younger wild swinging Pacquiao and turned him into a smart, focused sharpshooter. Roach can create a fight plan to neutralize any opponents strengths and exploit their weaknesses. Each fight you see Pac in is different, never the same fight plan. This one fact negates Cotto's camp studying all of Pac's old fight tapes. Cotto's trainer is the other reason why they will lose. With only two fights as head trainer, how well does he know his fighter to guide him through the rounds when the fight plan is not working. I'm sure Roach could adjust and come up with a winning plan, if need be. One last thing, Cotto fights for Cotto, Pacquiao fights for a nation. Guess who wins?
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 12:39:05 AM
Isaiah:  A lot of people sure are picking Manny and for good reason, but Manny's lone fight at Welter was a tuneup compared to this. 35 year old Oscar couldn't hang with these guys anymore and by the way, who in their right mind would have picked David Diaz to beat Manny just because he was supposedly bigger and stronger? I'm telling the truth. Don't sleep on Miguel Cotto. These guys are warriors for life and are both highly entertaining to watch, but this is one step up too many for Manny. He's only human. Cotto by 10th round TKO.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 12:55:40 AM
molybdenum:  it was pacquiao-cotto 24/7 is more popular. Hes considered as P4P king, he has beaten ODH, Hatton, Barrera, Moralez, JMM and now some people are speculating about a PBF fight. Offcourse Cotto is good but hes not that popular enough to convince enough people to watch the fight. I think hes under-rated. If Cotto lose this one by KO, i think he must fight PBF to regain hes name. Goodluck to both fighters.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 02:06:40 AM
Iskey Aygugo:  Boo hoo! To Wong Fo! Cotto is gonna sleep. Boy George he's only human. Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar never tapped out. Pee-wee Herman and RuPaul love to maul. A sweaty hot fight that Pacman win by knockout.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 07:02:24 AM
The Puncher:  Manny is an exciting fighter, just like Cotto is. Please remember who he has defeated lately. Diaz (we all know it was a no contest), slow poke DLH and overrated Hatton (another slow poke puncher). Now I do agree that cotto is not as fast as Manny and very few will even be close, but the question is how will he react when he starts getting hit. Many of us do forget that when he fought JMM and started getting hit he went on the wild thing approach and almost lost both bouts. One by decision and the other one almost knocked out. This is not because he is not talented, it is because he still has not shown the world that he can stay under control when attacked. On the other hand we have seen Cotto on his butt a several times, but has shown that he knows how to deal with it, survive and win. To me the winner of this bout will be which one is good enough to hold his ground when in trouble and not throw their techinque out the window. At this point it seems that Cotto has the advantage.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 09:49:09 AM
MisterLee:  I feel details are irrelevant. Cotto doesn't have an experienced enough to trainer to correct his flaws: elbows not on the ribs, leaning forward, better defense... maybe his stamina will be fine this time around with Joe "The Pilates" Santiago, but still... cotto's not getting an expert trainer (like pavlik), and taylor not getting a sports psychologist would be their downfall, not their physical gifts. But ya can't teach intelligence or cooling one's stubborn nature... stubborness = lack of adaptation = fear = anger = dark side. Yep yep yep :).
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:26:04 AM
MisterLee:  "You can't train a chin!"
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:26:39 AM
PUNCH DRUNKARD:  It doesn't matter what is shown on 24/7 becuase every writer trying to "uncover" hints always dismisses anything remotely negative about Manny while at the same time downplaying Cotto. The Wild Card Gym is a disaster and now its "homey". Manny has had one problem after another in training and its all dismissed. Cotto is having the best camp of his career by all accounts and this writer still finds a way to dismiss it by calling his sparring partners into question. Manny's the one with the crappy sparring partners. Jose Luis Castillo? Shawn Porter who is apparently getting knocked down if we're to beleive reports by a lightweight with head gear and the big gloves on? You call that quality sparring. People are going to act like Cotto's win over Manny is a major upset but its not. All the signs are there you just need to open your eyes!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 11:55:57 AM
Castro:  I got Cotto all the way on this one guys! Much respect to both warriors! However, come Nov 14th we're really gonna see who's the stronger man. Mentally & physically. Cotto has been hit by some of the hardest punchers in this division & still he comes out with the win. Can't say the same for Pacquiao. Manny can bring all the power shots, left hooks & body blows that he wants to. I can tell you one thing for sure - they won't be as hard as Mosley's or Margarito's. Cotto has a chin made of granite, a body made of stone & sledgehammer's for fists! Nevermind his heart (even though we know that is a solid factor when it comes to fighting) Cotto's got plenty of that too. The most important weapon in Cotto's arsenal is his intelligence! No doubt! He's gonna figure Manny out & when he does it'll be "hasta luego chiquito"! lol *In regards to the Margarito vs Cotto bout - we all know that was not a loss on Cotto's part. It was a complete devastation to the career of Margarito. (that's a whole different discussion for a different day) Who cares if Cotto took a knee. You would too! Believe me. & if you say you wouldn't....you're a straight up LIAR! Don't get me wrong though, Marg can seriously take a punch. Cotto banged him flush several times with the uppercut & the dude still didn't go down. Manny will not (& I repeat) WILL NOT be able to handle the same punch from Cotto. I can gaurantee you that! To all my peeps rooting for Cotto " vamos a mostrarle al mundo quién es el mejor"!! & to ALL of us on TSS.... we are the TRUE winners come fight night! Pc out!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 01:35:44 PM
CharlieBrown:  I love both fighters. Too bad only one will prevail come Nov 14. If they were fighting other boxers, I would back both of them. But on this night, Pacquiao by TKO 7
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 01:38:09 PM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":  @Isiah, in the Dela Hoya fight Pac trained to be elussive and use his footwork. If what I hear is true that Roach focused more on conditioning and strength then will find out really how strong Pac is at this weight. He was just slapping Oscar around in that fight. I feel he is going for the knockout and its coming.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 04:54:23 PM
LC:  Cotto is a TOUGH SOB.....but I do believe Cotto is underestimating PAC's power. PAC doesn't have the body of a WW fighter, but size is one factor. Clottey had the siz, but he doesn't have the power or explosion. PAC has EXPLOSION POWER in both hands like TNT and HE HAS tremendous SPEED..... Still there is no easy task, but COTTO will go down eventually by a PUNCH that he never expected or saw.
Thursday Nov 5, 2009 03:26:44 PM
anonymous:  what can Pacman's detractors say now huh? That Cotto's washed up like everyone else Pacman dismantled in the past? You guys are funny.
Sunday Nov 15, 2009 08:14:03 PM

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