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Roach Has The Recipe: Don't Allow Cotto To Get Momentum
By Frank Lotierzo
As the Pacquiao-Cotto fight gets closer, Pacquiao's head trainer Freddie Roach has been very obliging to the media and fans with continuous quotes and statements to stimulate more interest in the fight. In one of his more recent quotes he said Pacquiao had to "start fast and finish strong" when he confronts Cotto on November 14th. This is probably the best game-plan that Manny can try to implement versus Cotto when they meet in a little less than two weeks.
“We need to be fast and aggressive at the start,” Roach said. Then mentioned how Cotto is a slow starter and very well could be disrupted and bothered by Manny jumping on him at the opening bell.
Roach went on to say, "We must not give him (Cotto) the momentum because he gets stronger.” And then went into how Cotto was in trouble versus Zab Judah in the early going of the first round, and said Judah is not Pacquiao and believes if Pacquiao plants him with something big he'd be in even bigger trouble than he was versus Judah.
It's hard to dispute what Roach has said. However, there's one thing that went unsaid by Roach, and of course it's something that you'll never hear from the Pacquiao faction. And that's the fact that Cotto is not the same fighter who fought Judah two and a half years ago. There's just no getting around that. Since beating Judah, Miguel has had three physically taxing fights, with Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito and Joshua Clottey.
In those three bouts Cotto was hit hard and forced to fight in retreat during many of those 35 rounds. In his last bout with Clottey it was easy to see, regardless of the competitor and warrior Miguel is - he was trying to run the clock out and do just enough to win. He's just not the same fighter who fought Judah mentally or physically. Not to mention he is bothered psychologically by getting hit more at this time then he was in 2007.
The other thing that's simply not a given is the belief that Pacquiao is a greater puncher than Judah was in June of 2007. Maybe he is but it's not beyond questioning. Which is a lot different than saying Judah is/was a better fighter than Pacquiao, something he's clearly not. Pacquiao is without a doubt a greater fighter and has clearly exhibited more heart and guts than Judah ever has. Zab was/is more of a front runner and when the going got tough at the world class level he sometimes cracked. Whereas Manny loves to fight and really is a fearless guy. That's what really separates them as fighters.
The reason Pacquiao is perceived as being such a great puncher at 140-145 is based on his last fight with Ricky Hatton. And because of the spectacular way the fight ended with Pacquiao crashing a beautiful overhand left against the incoming and wide open Hatton's chin, it's assumed that he's a great puncher at welterweight. But in reality Mayweather stretched Hatton with one punch before Pacquiao did. And nobody considers Mayweather a big one shot banger at welterweight, do they? It may have took Floyd longer to do it, but that's a matter of styles more than anything else.
No one can argue that Zab Judah's a greatly skilled fighter and accurate puncher. He also has very fast hands and was in the fight early against Mayweather. The difference was Floyd broke Zab mentally more than he did physically, and that's what really set them apart. Granted, there's nothing on Judah's record to suggest he's a life-taker, but Pacquiao's not a proven puncher at welterweight any more so than Judah. Had Judah fought the versions of De La Hoya and Hatton that Pacquiao did, is it a reach to envision him taking them apart in a similar fashion as Pacquiao did?
The Cotto-Judah fight is the main fight everybody has been looking to for a comparison as to how Pacquiao matches up with Cotto due to the similar styles between Judah and Pacquiao. But that fight provides two tales. The first being Cotto is hittable and capable of being hurt and shook early. And the other conformation is that against a average size welterweight, something both Pacquiao and Judah are, Cotto can be a monster when he gets through and beats on his opponents' body. No fighter ever made Judah look for a way out the way Cotto did once he started banging on him.
And that's why Roach couldn't be more correct in suggesting Pacquiao jump on Cotto at the bell for the first round. Along with that Cotto doesn't appear to be the finisher late in the fight that he was two plus years ago. Actually in his last fight it looked as though he was counting down the seconds and barely crossed the finish line. Then again if Cotto can take a little out of Pacquiao by going to the body, if he can get to it, he may not have to be the finisher he used to be.
Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com
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Smiley C:
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Nice recipe fo' sure!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:26:50 AM
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ali @ F-Lo:
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Good points all the way around.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:58:18 AM
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Eastar:
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Roach is afraid so he's talking alot of junk lately. Let ut see if the P4P "Catchweight King" Mrs Pacman can pull off the big victory so he can face the true King, Mayweather.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:01:28 AM
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RayP:
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Frank doesn't realize that Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito and Joshua Clottey is more or less the cream of the welterweight division. Manny is none of those and will not be able to back Cotto up. Look for a similar beat down as the one Judah got. Amazing how some of these writers keep saying Cotto is not what he once was. Let me put it this way. How would Cotto have looked had he faced Diaz, DLH or Hatton and on the flip side Manny would have faced Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito and Joshua Clottey? Cotto by KO over an overhyped Pacquiao.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:29:56 AM
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Danny V:
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Well the truth is that we have seen Cotto outboxed the boxers and out punch the puncher. He has shown that he can deal with speed, and proved that he can deal with boxers that are stronger than him. I think Cotto is way too smart for Manny.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:30:46 AM
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Anony:
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IT IS A GREAT ARTICLE BUT... everybody should remember Cotto has only one VERY DISPUTABLE loss in his resume and one have to wonder why Clottey or Shane "somehow" stop fighting or pressuring him in their final rounds. Could it be that Cotto's early punches DID DAMAGE THEM to the point of not wanting to brawl in the final rounds??? Has it occur to anyone???? Need prove? You don't see Shane Mosley or Clottey bitch*n around saying it was a wrong decision. All those points go in favor of Cotto WHO IS DEFINITELY NOT GETTING THE RESPECT HE DESERVES FROM THE MEDIA. BUT HE WILL. SOON.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:32:35 AM
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bill major:
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excellent write! man you do your homework frank. i look forward to each article you write ,they are always insightful .thought out and always on the money as far as im concerned.keep em coming.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:34:01 AM
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Nes:
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This fight gets more intriguing by the moment... all due to the lack of predictions on a Cotto win. Cotto is not the same fighter that fought Judah.... that's obvious, nor is Manny the same fighter that fought Marquez - specially at a higher class weight. Cotto did fought in retreat agains, Margartio (hand of plaster), Mosley (former 154 champion) and Clottey (big WW and Cotto had only one eye). How does this transalates that we will be backpedaling against a smaller Pacquio?
Let's put it another way.... if Cotto would have fought Oscar and Hatton... what would have been the outcome? Or better yet... what if Pacman would have fought Margarito, Mosley and Clottey... uhmm I wonder if we would be praising Cotto as the favorite if the Pacman would have beaten Mosely and Clottey? Would the author be giving no chance if Cotto would have KO Hatton and TKO Oscar?
Cotto is a better technician than Manny... Period. He is more versatile and can actually fight moving backwards... can Manny? Cotto is stronger and bigger... period. Manny could fight tomorrow at 140 or even 135. And Cotto has demonstrated... not in sparring but acual fights that he can manage speed. Has Manny demostrated that he can walk down a bigger stonger fighter? Or that he can take a punch of a Weleter? Not in my opinion and proving it against Cotto is risky.
The fact is that people are banking on Cotto been damanage goods... and I hope so for Manny's sake. But I rather bank on Cotto's skills to nullify Manny's speed and volume. It will be a good fight... and I see I Cotto victory.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:35:06 AM
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Sotyx:
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Speed plus power!!! Goodluck Mr. Cotto.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:35:41 AM
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orlando:
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"he was trying to run the clock out and do just enough to win"
This guy forgets to mention the huge gash on cotto's left eye
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:48:36 AM
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#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Nobody really knows what Roach has in store for Cotto but the man himself. I know one thing for sure and that's Roach playing some real mind games with Team Cotto. I think Roach would prefer a cautious Cotto who will try to counter Pacquiao early. Which is why Roach is saying he wants an aggressive Cotto in there. Him saying Pacquiao knocking him out in the first round is trying to get into the head of Cotto. He wants Cotto to know that their gameplan is to attack and be the aggressor. But obviously that's really plan B and plan A is to get in get out to frustrate Cotto. If you ask me Cotto will not have an answer for whatever Roach will bring in the table. At this point Cotto just has about a punchers chance in my opinion.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:07:11 PM
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GOAT:
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I usually don't agree with the arthur of this article but he is real close to being right on this one. One mistake he and others are making is comparing Zab and Pac. Besides being southpaws with pop in their punches, they have very little in common. Zab is not an aggressive fighter and Pac is. Zab believed he could loose and Pac don't. Zab quit before and Pac didn't. I still believe Cotto will win by late TKO, but it's not because he broke Zab down.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:13:52 PM
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FRANK M:
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COTTO IS ONE OF THE MOST OVERRATED FIGHTERS I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS. HE IS GOOD BUT FAR FROM GREAT. HE RUNS OUT OF GAS IN ROUND 6 OR 7. IN THIS FIGHT I SEE AN EARLY KO BY PAQ. MY GUT TELLS ME ROUND THREE.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:25:07 PM
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Twik:
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Earmuff boxing, dancing feet Cotto will not be able to see the missiles coming. He is scorched-earth policy for Team Pac. In Pacman's hand is the weapons of mass destruction.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:43:00 PM
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DouggyFach:
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Another victory for pac man easily! He has proved his power recently and cotto will not be able to deal with his speed. Pac-man stops cotto in the late rounds. Hollla
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:52:43 PM
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Kojie:
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Let's just wait and see. Hope for the best, in my case, here's to the Pacman's dominating win against the Boricua Bomber. No excuses.
Explnation is plain and simple, Cotto has trouble with bigger welterweights but is a monster when it comes to smaller opponents. In short he's a bully. Well, a bully will be beat up by a smaller dude at some point in time. And that my friend is on November 14/15. Mark the date, the bully will cry due to the small dudes punches!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:53:17 PM
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Frank Z:
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cottos' slicker than we give him credit for, see the first 6 rounds vs. margo, he was able to slip and slide along the ropes until he got caught with the bricks. i predict that this fight will be in the center of the ring for the first half because i dont' think cotto's able to cut off the ring enough on pac to push him on the ropes, and pac's good at circling back anyway. one thing that i think will surprise everyone is pacquiao's strength in this fight. he looks to be stronger each time out his last 3-4 fights and alex ariza seems to be pushing him correctly. i think cotto's in for a bit of a shock when he realizes that he can;'t bully pac. pac's straight left hand will be a factor since cotto does get a little squared up in his stance. also cotto doesn't keep his elbows tucked on his ribs all the time so pacquiao might go to the body to soften COTTO up. on the flip side, cotto's handspeed and pacquiao's handspeed won't have as big a difference as most of us think, and one big reason for this is cause cotto throws the JAB the way it should be thrown, with the legs driving it and with the intention to hurt, and that is why i love watching cotto. look for pac to stagger cotto early though, and i think he will do it more often than shane or judah were able to because those guys dind't really go into the fight with a plan. also with pac it's not just about hand speed, but also footspeed, the ability to coordinate the chopping of his feet with his combinations, and his ability to go in, out, and side to side. THAT is what makes pac dangerous, is his movement on his feet, much more so than just being strong or fast handed. all in all, i predict cotto to tough it through and have some success in the middle rounds when he feels out pac's pattern, but then expect pacquiao to adjust after jumping on cotto early and i see him putting him away late. F-Lo i kind of disagree with you that pac's power has been given an illusion by his KO on hatton, because before that crazy KO punch, he was rocking him offf his feet with his jabs and right hooks. everything he threw you could tell have a serious effect on hatton, so his power is definitely able to hurt cotto, just not finish him in 180 seconds.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:22:45 PM
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Smiley C:
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The M1P1 virus is going to get Miguel. I hear that it is one deadly poisons that takes away an opponent's mind and soul and busts up his body and head. Manny wins in less than seven rounds fo' sure!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:24:34 PM
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Bill:
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This is the best unbias article ever written about this fight!!! Thanks Frank!! I hope more writers will write the way you do!!! Excellent work my friend!!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:27:24 PM
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Speedkills:
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Its the invisible punch that will knock Cotto out-- DE Ja VU all over again-- Sprts Headline News Novemebr 15 2009--
"Cotto suffered the same faith as Hatton did"
"Cotto got infected by the M1P1"
"Cotto retired from Boxing"
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:28:08 PM
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cadude:
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I think only Morons will choose Cotto to win in this fight. Cotto is a good boxer but he is only a class B fighter not rated A boxer class B boxer. He lost to Margarito wherein Pacman punched harder than Margarito with or without the cemento, Against Mosley, he almost lost to Mosley, a decision can go either way. For sure He lost to Clottey,,,,,Clottey won that fight but that guy do not have the courage to finish his bloidied opponent. And now facing the Pound for Pound , Number #1, Class A+ fighter OF THE WORLD. How do you view this???? As Freddie said Cotto is very hitable and Pacman is unhitable.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:33:33 PM
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JoeCortex:
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I just hope that cotto will not have problems with the catch weight of 145lbs. He looked dehydrated in his picture when he arrived in Nevada or during the hydration process that he may bloat to much and become sluggish in fight night. I just want to see a good even fight in Nov 14. And as for who is the better fighter that will be answered at fight night. But by analyzing both fighters it is hard to say. To Cotto's credit he has neutralized speedy fighters namely Judah and Mosley. Has power in both hands, a more than average hand speed and foot work to cut off the ring,has a superb left hook, is an excellent body puncher,and has great timing at throwing punches and a well rounded boxer who is good at counter punching. But what impress me the most is his big heart and threshold to pain and ability to take a punch, these guy doesn't flinch when been hit. He keeps his eye on his foe which contributes to the success of his counter punching he would take a punch and return the favor with a bigger punch that connects.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 01:55:41 PM
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it was an ok article.. except for the fact that it doesn't sound like you know much about Boxing, i don't think you've ever boxed a round in your life. Pacquiao fills the Welterweight frame very, very well. Like Freddie Roach says, size doesn't win fights, boxing ability does. So it don't matter how big Cotto is so long as he weighs in at the same division 141-147, it will be an even fight. Pacquiao can and will hurt him I guarantee you naysayers that, it might not be a devastating one punch KO ala the Hatton bout, but we'll all see how wrong we are to think that just because Cotto is bigger that he can't be hurt by those cannons in Pacquiao's arms. Cotto is human, when humans get hit in the face, specially with punches they can't see, the brain gets shocked from absorbing the force. When the brain gets shocked like that, the blood stops flowing into it and it causes temporary paralization of bodily functions. This is called a KO.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:19:19 PM
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eastar is stupid:
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i can't wait for fightnight. i think this would be a memorable fight as is always when it involves manny pacquiao and miguel cotto. however, i would like to call out eastar (on of the posts) how can you call pacquiao "catchweight king" when this is the only fight he fought at catchweight? stupid stupid man.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:24:01 PM
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#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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This is the way I see it round by round: 1. Both men will be a little tentative in the first minute of the round. Cotto throws a great jab at Pac to let him know what he'll taste coming in. Cotto will come in as the counter puncher. Pacquiao throws double straight right jab followed by straight left but misses. Close round but that one goes to Cotto for avoiding the straight left but you can argue for Pac for being the aggressor. 2. In the middle of the ring both men exchange with body shots from Cotto and Pac giving some shots to the body of his own. Roach tells Pac to not engage inside but to use the jab for his range. Another close round but it goes to Pac for landing a straight left. 3. to be continued....
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:44:29 PM
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pinoy4life:
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I think Pac man should take Cotto on the later rounds. Stay away on exchanges early. Cotto has proven fades away on later rounds. On early rounds Cotto is quick and move pretty well but once he gets tired he ends to drop his hands a lot. then Pac should be able to take him apart.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:55:47 PM
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Lorenzo: If Cotto faced Pacquaio a year ago, I would have said to you, Cotto will be the favorite to win---thinking PAC was still one-dimensional fighter. However, if PAC employed the same tactics and strategies against ODH to Cotto that some, outboxing and outmanuered him, I believe PAC would have SHOCK THE WORLD AGAIN!. Cotto would have come in OVER CONFIDENT like Oscar did unbeknowntous, how clearly dominating PAC was that night aside by ODH weight issue. My point also, if you watch that fight, PAC showed tremendous improvement; PAC didn't stand against the ropes, he fought ODH in the middle and used the whole entire ring, while leading with his left. I imagine Cotto would have been frustrated all night where he usually revert to "dirty tactics" LOW BLOW (see Judah 1st round). IF PAC WINS, it will solidify his true greatness, all the talks that PAC fought over the hills OSCAR and glass chin are just hater “talks” bottomline.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:57:34 PM
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LC:
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I meant Lotierzo, not Lorenzo.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 02:59:31 PM
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The whole world will see November 14th:
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As soon as Cotto gets hit, you won't see the monster everybody is talking about. Manny is going to tag him all night long. Believe me, on the 14th of November, HISTORY will be made. Manny will WIN and Cotto will think about retiring just like the others. Put your money where your mouth is. Manny isn't Jennings, Gomez, Mosley, or Clottey. The whole world will see why he is so special. What will your excuse be for Cotto losing? PAC by KO Round 7.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:00:46 PM
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deepwater:
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could pac man ko clottey? cotto should win but its gonna be a hell of a fight
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:04:47 PM
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The Saint:
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Not sure where to begin but I'll start with the article's comment on the perception of Pacquiao being a great puncher based on his fight with Hatton. First off, Mayweather broke down Hatton over the course of many rounds and softened him up a great deal before he stopped him with "one punch." It was not at all the same as Pacquiao's KO of Hatton. And it wasn't just that one final overhand left. Pacquiao hurt Hatton several times in the first round, with the first time being courtesy of a straight left hand that had Hatton holding shortly before Pacquiao dropped him with the right hook. You can dismiss Pacquiao's KO punch as a once in a lifetime perfect punch ala Michael Nunn vs Sumbu Kalambay, but the straight left that he hurt Hatton with in the first and the right hook that scored the first knockdown was good evidence of Pacquiao's power. I've never been hit by Pacquiao or Mayweather but De La Hoya and Jose Luis Castillo have, and they both claim that Pacquiao hits harder. I think at this weight Pacquiao's power is more evident because of his opponents having more mass and less "sway," and tend to absorb the full force of Pacquiao's shots more so than the lighter fighters, if that makes sense at all. In comparison to Judah's power, Pacquiao delivers his power in a more effective way. This may not be the best example but compare a novice tennis player's forehand to Andre Agassi's. The novice might end up hitting the ball out of bounds and over the fence. Does that mean that he has a more powerful forehand than Agassi's since he hit the ball farther out? Absolutely not. Also, Cotto can absolutely be a monster especially if he gets away with multiple low blows, which were largely responsible for his win over Judah. And what separates Pacquiao from other speedy fighters is that he flurries with straight punches. His straight combinations work almost like a drill that penetrates his opponent's defense. He is fast and while he has shown some slickness in his last 3 fights, he uses his slickness for offense, not to be cute. He disappears so he can reappear and attack where his opponent is vulnerable. I see one glaring mistake in Cotto and that is he is underestimating Pacquiao, referring to him as "a 126-lb fighter." This will be Cotto's downfall. Roach is doing the right thing by not banking on Cotto "not being the same fighter."
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:08:55 PM
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justfan:
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To some uninformed posters, read LA FIGHTSHYPE "Face it, Pacquiao is an all-time great!" by Oliver Suarez.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:10:09 PM
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Frank: With Hatton, Hatton strategy was to get inside PAC body and do his work from the inside. But Hatton wasn't fast enough to get it the inside. Pac was simply peppering him with power shots as he was coming in, employing his right hooks. That damaged him that he couldn't recover. PAC will make you pay, and we have said this before, if Hatton comes in, expect a counterpunch a barrages that could end the fight. That's exactly what happen. By the second round, Hatton was operating in pure reflexes, he didn't have a clear head nor plan B. It was over quickly. ALL PURE POWER....... Mayweather didn't have that much power, he had to break down Hatton in first 9th round in order to knock him out. That's the difference.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:15:28 PM
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With Hatton, Hatton strategy was to get inside PAC body and do his work from the inside. But Hatton wasn't fast enough to get it the inside. Pac was simply peppering him with power shots as he was coming in, employing his right hooks. That damaged him that he couldn't recover. PAC will make you pay, and we have said this before, if Hatton comes in, expect a counterpunch a barrages that could end the fight. That's exactly what happen. By the second round, Hatton was operating in pure reflexes, he didn't have a clear head nor plan B. It was over quickly. PAC is pure power......Floyd on the other hand, used all 1 to 9 round to breakdown Hatton first since Floyd is really not known for KO power.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:17:51 PM
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datu punol:
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IMHO..Cotto will melt down to 145 lbs.,on fighting, weighs 160 + lbs over night, thats mere 15 to 20 lbs of solid/liquid food to stuff his empty tank just to gas-up inorder to get weight advantage, so his system will be overwork ed by fighting time meaning physically little bit weakened.. So this bloated tank is weak enough to absorb the blows he'll received from MP. since Cotto has not tasted the kind of hooks to his body left or right just like he does to his opponent. and once these body blows landed on him, I bet you his game plan is gone, and he'll be open for the unseen punch either from left or right hand of MP. That KO punch might connect by the middle round of the fight, or not earlier,and bid him goodnite my friend.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:30:11 PM
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marcomanlegro:
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Cotto is hittable... Manny can not hurt if he can not hit. Ricardo Torres knocked down Cotto. How about Manny can he do the same what Torres did? What I can say is that Manny is a good finisher unlike Torres.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:31:49 PM
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Heatman:
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to Eastar, where the hell did you borrowed the word "Catchweight King". You are very ignorant! This is just the very first time Pacquiao fighting at catchweight. Pacquiao did not invented catchweight, it's been there long time ago. Better hail to your true King Mayweather, King of Gays, King of Cowards.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:41:56 PM
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brownsugar:
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the main thing that will make this an interesting fight is,.. Cotto won't be looking at Pac like he's the better man,.. he'll be confident and sure about his advantages (if he's ok with the weight),... I just don't see him coming in ready to take a dive just because Pac is Pac,..
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:47:51 PM
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barako:
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pacman in 5 rounds...just how good a boxer and how strong a puncher cotto is just isn't enough to match a fast and a sleek opponent in pacman...similar combos that hit hatton will be the same ones to bring cotto down... no doubt!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 03:49:19 PM
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Jasmilpitas:
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Coto will not----I say again! WILL NOT see any of Mannys punches especially from all angles----This is going to dictate the fight----U will all see on Nov 14, but then again if Manny wins----he fought a burnt out weight drained Cotto---Cmon
If Manny wins----Give credit where credit is due!!!!!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 04:09:07 PM
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El Gato:
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nice article.....im looking for a reason why pac cannot hurt cotto but theres none pac will bust his face with punches not just one his to slow look at the past fight of cotto he just cannot avoid getting hit if pac hit him like the amount of punches clottey did its gonna be short evening for him...it doesnt mean if ur bigger ur a stronger puncher..mike tyson show that to us all he fight guys 30 kilos heavier than him but what happen the yall kis the canvass...pac by tko not beyond six....
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 04:14:11 PM
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isidro:
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The preparations and hard trainings for both fighters should give the fans and the pay-per-view audiences an assurance for an exciting fight.Conflicting views on who is going to win ,is at the height.The first round of this scheduled fight will preview if not conclude the complexion of the fight.Hatton tried to impose his size and power on the first round ,early enough paled his ability to defeat Pacquiao.Just the same if the opening round gives a clear indication that Cotto can be hurt by Manny then once again Coach freddie Roach will guide his son into a finishing touch to end the fight early.However if Manny got his piece too from Cotto and got hurt ,it will test the ability of Pacquiao to shift to a hit and not being hit strategy ,which is their option during the training.That will validates Roach prediction of M1P1 or the nineth round.Cotto is a proud fighter he might try the opening round option ,and people..don't leave your sits and don't blink it could be it .It will be like scud missile intercepted by a patriot or patriot missed to intercept.I can't wait to see this fight to start,too exciting.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 04:37:32 PM
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RA:
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This guy dont know nothing about nothing- If there was ever a fight in which Zab didnt look for a way out it was the Cotto fight- Zab took his beating like a man.
Zab is mentally fragile and Pac is def not that. Pac will crush Cotto. waay tooo much speed.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 04:44:29 PM
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royette1985:
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Pacquiao via tko round3...
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 04:58:43 PM
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dundee duque:
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This guys always underestimate Pacquiao coz he is smaller than Cotto . Everytime Pacman wins , there is always an alibi . They said Cotto will KO Pac easily coz of his size and his unique style ??? But in reality Cotto will have a difficulty hitting Pacquiao , how could you smash , neutralize and annihilate somebody that you can't even hit hard even though he is the smaller one during the fight ?? I believe Pacquiao , will win .... coz of his ability to get in & out while trhowing a barage of punches ... KO by 8 & if past 8...still Pacquiao by Decision ! Those Alibis will merely be swallowed by Nov.. 14th ..... Nice Article Frank !!! More Power to you !
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:12:57 PM
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pranzer:
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These are the same people who said Oscar and Hatton was too big before Pacman Clobbered them. What will you say again after Manny brutalizes Cotto? A damaged goods!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:17:45 PM
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joey:
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Sir Frank, it wasn't an "incoming and wide open hatton's chin" review the tape..hatton were feeling already pacman's punches b4 pac landed those overleft hand..and it was clear that the punch was an attack penetrated directly to the chin not that" it was an incoming and wide open chin"..be objective man.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:18:16 PM
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arturo:
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The difference in this fight will be MANNYS footwork.IF he use his lateral movement and great hip movement then he will be hard to hit.I would like for Cotto to win I hope he rehydrates well so he can have a solid weight advantage.Maybe we will see another MARQUEZ/MAYWEATHE outcome cause a good big man will beat a good small man
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:47:28 PM
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Sla:
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It's all about one thing...money. Cotto's looking for a huge payday in this fight with Pacquiao and afterwards, ready to call it quits. Let's look at a few Cotto factors in his training camp. 1. He's already lost his trainer (his uncle) which I believe would still affect him mentally even after the Clottey fight. 2. When Bob Arum visited both camps, he noticed that in Manny's camp Freddie's in charge, while in Cotto's camp Cotto's in charge. In my humble opinion, the trainer should always be in charge of preparing the fighter for a fight, not the fighter. 3. The quality of sparring partners has been more prevalent in Manny's camp with Shawn Porter, Urbano Antillon, Jose Luis Castillo, and Amir Khan. Aside from Amir Khan, the other fighters can easily emulate Cotto and especially with Shawn Porter (10-0 8ko) who fights in junior middleweight. Who does Cotto have as a sparring partner to mimick the likes of Manny with his speed and power? With all of these factors in to play I truly believe Manny will ko Cotto in 3 rounds...Cotto won't mind though cuz when he wakes up, he'll have a crap load of money in the bank...
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 05:57:42 PM
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El Diablo:
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If Pacquiao wins, please no more excuses. No more blah blah blah.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 06:06:36 PM
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mike:
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i don't think judah would take appart hatton and de la hoya the way pacquiao did. judah is fast but don't throw the same volume of power punches the way pacquiao does. you just have to look at compubox to see that.
mayweather didn't KO hatton because he has 1 punch power. mayweather hit hatton with a lot of power punches before the KO. yet it took mayweather many rounds to KO hatton. the amount of power punches that pacquiao landed on hatton would pale in comparison to the amount mayweather landed, yet hatton was KOed in 2 with 2 knock downs. and don't forget hatton fought pacquiao at 140 and mayweather at 147 which means hatton is more vulnerable at 147
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 06:10:59 PM
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blue4cor:
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LOW BLOW IS A LACK OF RESPECT TO BOTH THE SPORT and the SPORTS FANS. Did MARGARITO win because he wasn't hit at all with a low blow?
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 07:21:32 PM
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M1P1virus:
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Well...cotto's fans might not observe how pacman improve in the higher weight class,130 is a struggling weight for pacman thats why he gets thug and whobble his knee against JMM,in other words, fighting pacquiao between 140-147 is very dangerous for his opponent like cotto,and i wish a 3rd fight at 140 between pac and jmm.,and the whole world will see a different manny pacquiao.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 07:30:06 PM
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vjoe:
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I find this to be a hard fight to pick, but lean toward Manny by majority decision or late stop. However, just checked the odds and as a 2-1 underdog, I think the wiser bet is Cotto.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 07:30:17 PM
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ricardo:
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frank lotierzo great writings.this columns explains everything base on two fighthers history.ive wacthed also other cotto's fight..i think he'l facing a great trouble of speed,power and stamina on pacquiao..my verdict pacquiao by round 5 ko
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 07:43:53 PM
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Shaar _moot:
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To All of you who are wishing for the defeat of Manny Pacman,
well, you are all going to eat your fooooos.
His time is still on a very high cliff ...that means he will be winning all his remaining fights till 2012.
Just wait til Nov. 14 , you will all be crying like a mother less F@ckin9 INUTILE babies.
Cotto's defeat will be a big bang of SLAPS on your faces..
Pendejitos Ole !!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:10:00 PM
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FRANK M:
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I dont know who the commentor (CINCONATOR) is but he states that the writer, doesn't know much about boxing and probably never boxed a round in his life etc. Well Frank is too nice a guy to argue that point but I will for him. Frank knows more about this sport than anybody I know and I've been around this sport for over 50 years. Also Frank boxed many rounds and could handle himself real good. We are fortunate to have guy like Frank writing about our sport. No one says you have to agree with him on every point but we owe him the utmost respect for his knowledge and dedication to the sport,
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:10:04 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Coach Roach has spread more information....and even more Disinformation....than the CIA on it's best day. Nothing he has said so far has telegraphed his strategy. All or most of what he has said was said to Amuse and/or Confuse. With HBO at his disposal, he has been playing the media. And trying to play Cotto. He has spun more stories than Bundini Brown had lines. Manny's distracted. He's focused on 'other' obligations. He doesn't like what he is seeing. Then he likes it. Now he loves it. KO in Round One. Against Miguel Cotto, his most 'dangerous opponent' to date no less. I think Manny fights Manny's fight. In and out. Back and forth. Here and gone. Miguel will hunt. But Miguel gets hit early and he gets hit often. If he takes Manny's best shot, expect nothing less than 10 rounds. If Manny takes his .... and Miguel will hit him.... expect a war. A war however that Manny will win. Too fast, Too strong, Too tenacious. You are looking at the closest thing to Roberto Duran boxing has witnessed in years. Enjoy it. We're all winners.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:12:33 PM
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kountedout:
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my thoughts are that this fight to me is based on 1 fight. Margarito vs Cotto. If Cotto hadnt took such a beating and was stopped I would go with Cotto by ko destroying pacquiao. now i dont know what is taken out of cotto. is he still durable. i dont like how judah and corley both southpaws were able to hurt him even though technically those 2 fighters have better technical skills then pacquiao. but a uppercut is a uppercut and a right hook is a right hook which seems to be a magnet to cottos head. i think pacquiao will win but im rooting for cotto. i would like to see both fighters tested to make sure its a clean up an up fight
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:16:45 PM
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boxsing:
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Pacman in round 6! Mark my word
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:38:01 PM
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Reality:
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Right on Ray P, just switch the opponents they fought and see the truth.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 09:03:51 PM
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Shalala:
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COTTO = HATTON. Cotto is only slightly bigger.
PAC BY KO IN ROUND 5 AT 2:56 MARK!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 09:12:43 PM
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eric brun:
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There's an invisible strength lurking inside Pacquiao now..a burning desire to lift up the morale of his countrymen after drowning from devastating floods. Cotto should watch out for that nasty left uppercut that will lift his feet up high.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 09:21:43 PM
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Fred:
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The thing for Cotto is to bang Pacquiao's body to slow him down and take away his speed. But Cotto might 've overlooked, Pacquiao's capabilities.
A puzzle for Cotto to solve; How to get near the Pac and bang the body without getting caught by his blazing punch combinations with power on both fists.
A piece of advice for Cotto, get yourself a good trainer 'cause you do need one. Call Manny Steward and get rid of Joe and send home Angelo D.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:27:58 PM
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Lanski:
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CANT WAIT TO SEE PACS ON THE RING.. HE'S REALLY AN EXCITING FIGHTER OF ALL TIME! WHY? IS IT NOT EXCITING WHEN YOU SEE SMALL FIGHTER CHALLENGE THE BIG FIGHTER? THAT'S WHAT MAKES PACMAN THE BEST OF ALL! NEVER EVER FEAR WHOEVER HE FACE ON THE RING, BUT HE NEVER FORGET TO RESPECT HIS OPPONENTS, WHAT A KINDHEARTED FIGHTER! GO TEAM PACMAN, 7TH WEIGHT CATEGORY BELT! WHEWWW! HURRRAHHH! BE COUNTED!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:31:07 PM
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Lanski:
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YOU KNOW WHAT? WHATEVER DISH OR RECIPE YOU OFFER TO PACMAN, HE WILL EAT IT! THAT'S WHAT THE PAC IS ALL ABOUT! BEING HUNGRY AND FEARLESS FIGHTER.. THAT MAKES HIM VERY SPECIAL IN SPORT OF BOXING.. GO PAC TEAM, GODSPEED! ITS REALLY GETTING HOT IN HERE, CANT WAIT TO SEE PACS ON THE RING!!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:07:32 PM
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FYI. eastar stupid:
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Pacquiao has also faced criticisms for facing fighters at catchweights. First of all, the fight against Cotto is his first catchweight fight and at 145, it’s a fair weight for both boxers. Pacquiao fought at 147 at Oscar’s insistence. He fought Ricky Hatton in his own division of 140, where the Brit had dominated for so many years. I can understand the people who say that the fight against Cotto should not be a title fight since it is not being fought at 147, but technicallym a welterweight fight can take place anywhere between 141-147. But where were all the criticisms about catchweights when Hopkins fought Pavlik or when Felix Trinidad fought Roy Jones? People are acting as if Pacquiao invented catchweights and that’s simply not the case. Many memorable fights in the pat were fought at catchweights. Julio Cesar Chavez fought Meldrick Taylor for the welterweight title at 145 pounds. Sugar Ray Leonard fought Thomas Hearns as a super middleweight at 163 pounds. He also forced Danny LaLonde to come down from 175 to 168 to fight for his light heavyweight title and the new super middleweight title.
It is time to appreciate Manny Pacquiao because a fighter like him only comes once in a generation. Sure, he’s not the greatest technical boxer and he may have some flaws, but those vulnerabilities combined with his ferociousness in the ring is what endears him to many boxing fans. Pacquiao has come a long way from being a one-dimensional fighter. He is now a much more complete boxer, while still being a warrior in his heart. Without question, he is truly an all-time great.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:16:55 PM
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MANG RESTY:
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I will be disappointed if Cotto will last 6 rounds!
Pacquiao fans do visit us at www pacfans-corner com
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:26:50 PM
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CHINA PEOPLE:
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here in china..we love to see pacman to win because he is 1st asian to win 7 title..goodluck manny!!!!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:34:15 PM
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Mike M:
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It will take Cotto a few rounds to adjust to Manny's speed. Manny has good power but will not be able to dent Cotto. Cotto is going to break Manny down slowly to the body with occasional left hooks to the head. It won't take as long as Chavez did with Meldrick Taylor but Cotto will slow Manny down and i expect a TKO in round 10. Cotto is a true welterweight and a CLASS above Hatton and the De La Hoya that Manny fought. Cotto has been through the gauntlet of undefeated prospects, bad asses and former champions from Sosa, Abdullev, Bailey, Corley, Torres, Malignaggi, Urkal, Pinto, Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Clottey, etc. He has beat slick boxers and guys with speed such as Mosley, Judah, Malignaggi and Quintana. He has ducked noone. He is the legitimate welterweight champion. Manny is being overrated at this weight level and i consider him unproven at 143-145, I don't think this catchweight will hurt Cotto but not sure. Cotto definitely has been in some wars but has enough in the tank to win this fight IMO. Roach has carefully matched Manny with Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton to get to this point. You could make the argument they are cherrypicking just like Mayweather though i agree Hatton was the true Jr. Welterweight champ. Manny is a great fighter with a big heart, speed and skill, and fun to watch. Any fan who is using the Hatton fight as the measuring stick for Manny to beat Cotto is delusional. No controversies, no contest, Cotto by late KO or TKO.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 11:47:36 PM
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Isaiah:
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Ironically, I hate the term hater and people with a lack of intelligience have to use it to defend their stupid positions. I back my position up with facts, but I must be a hater beacause I give Cotto props and don't like Mayweather. By the way, why would anyone have the ignorance to call Cotto a B level fighter? Who's A level, Mayweather? All the talent in the world doesn't make you A level if you don't prove it. In Cotto's Welterweight resume, he's KO'ed Zab Judah, outboxed Shane Mosley, had the guts to face Antonio Margarito and beat Joshua Clottey with one eye. You think Mayweather will outpoint Clottey with one eye? No brother, Mayweather would have to be at his best. I'm also only including Cotto's big names on the Welterweight resume. Who did Mayweather beat at Welter who was elite, can't count non-elite moving up in weight Sharmbra Mitchell, Ricky Hatton? Fuggedaboutit. Juan Manuel Marquez? Didn't he have to gain 17 pounds and seemed like a C level fighter at Welter? Even against Mayweather, you know it would have been closer at a lower weight. Try again. Carlos Baldomir? You mean the guy who became champ by an insane strocke of luck who was slow as mollasses? Actual Welter, but not an elite, sorry. Zab Judah? Mayweather gets credit for facing a top 10 foe as does Cotto, but at least Cotto could knock him out. Cotto a B level fighter? Get that nonsense outta here! Who said Hatton=Cotto? Good luck with that one buddy! Enjoy your lobotomy? Mayweather can't be called an A fighter if he doesn't fight a challenge so bye bye to that logic. Manny would do wise not to look past Cotto. Cotto wins by TKO in the 10th round. HEY HEATMAN! DON'T FORGET MAYWEATHER IS THE KING OF DUCK,DUCK,GOOSE TOO. HERE'S HOW HE PLAYS IT. ANTONIO MARGARITO/DUCK, SHANE MOSLEY/DUCK, MIGUEL COTTO/DUCK, PAUL WILLIAMS/DUCK, MANNY PACQUIAO/DUCK, JOSHUA CLOTTEY/DUCK, ANDRE BERTO/DUCK, JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ AT WELTERWEIGHT/GOOSE!!! HA! HA! HA!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 01:46:12 AM
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arbee:
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good writing but the metaphor of using Judah against Pacquaio's opponent was simply for Japanese kids learning English. It's more like comparing two fast objects who'll race along highway 66, the strong one is a leopard and the other one is a ford mustang. Who do you think will win? Pacquiao, the mustang, of course. But against Cotto? Pacquiao the leopard, will win if they race and start on the right lane and the finish line is just on the other side of the highway, race just along the width of the highway. Cotto, the ford mustang, sees the race only going along where he is in that highway while the leopard Pacquiao is mobile. Speed kills. Cotto will be too frustrated for a clown leopard to monkey him around and will say NO MAS!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 01:50:06 AM
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MisterLee @ Frank Z and Isaiah:
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Great posts. Also, pple are talking about Cotto's win over Sugar Shane as if it would happen that was 10 out of 10 times. We'll never know, b/c cotto never wanted a rematch while shane has been calling for a rematch since 07. Shane himself said all the greats do rematches to see if pple can get even. We also know Shane is least effective when he abandons his boxing, and goes for the knockout and overestimates his power (forrest, wright, and cotto), but when he uses and sticks to a game plan he boxes beautifully (collazo, margarito etc.). The SSM cotto beat was one without a game plan, and one that overestimated his own size and strength. Anyways, SmileyC, that m1p1 virus thing had me LOL fo' sho! hahaha... yeah, judah and pacquiao are too diff animals. judah is 37-6 with 25 ko's, pacquiao is 49-3 with 37 KO's. That should say a lot. And no, i don't think judah could knockout hatton the same way paquiao did. and i do think pacquiao hits 2 times harder than judah and is 2-3 times faster. and is 3 times a better boxer. While we're on poor man's pacquiao, poor man's cotto anybody? Let's have alfonso gomez vs. judah on the undercard as the "poor man's dream match up" to help predict the pacquiao cotto fight! Holler! However, alfonso is like a toyota corolla, and judah is like a nissan sentra compared to the sedan and hybrid cars that pacquiao and cotto are! jk jk. have a nice day!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 11:52:15 AM
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Mister Lee @ Frank Z:
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Let's not use the marg fight as a display of Cotto's slickness. Marg could make ANYONE look slick for 6 rounds. @ the Saint, are you val kilmar? Your posts are awesome! Hitting the scene, crispy and clean!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 12:21:13 PM
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alex:
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I agree to disagree, Zab is fast but he doesnt have the endurance and cannot finish what he started, Manny will win this fight earlier or thru the distance, and it will be a great fight, nobody will back out, both of them will try to finish each other, its only that manny looks smaller but looks could be deceiving, every pound on his small frame carries power which is more than enough to blow cotto off when the fire surge.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 01:11:09 PM
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TotoyBato:
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Does Manny Pacquiao fight any other way? Cotto will not be able to keep up with Pacquiao's Speed, Power and Stamina. Cotto will be Dismantled, Demoralized and will submit and beg for the Coup de Grace Knockout punch.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 07:25:46 PM
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rockz kuwait:
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watch pacquiao vs. david diaz. Cotto will suffer the same fate as David Diaz suffered in the hands of Pacquiao. Cotto understimates Pacman , same mistake made by Hatton and his stupid coach
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9/3/10, Dallas, Texas --- "WELCOME TO TEXAS" --- Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (ctr) welcomes superstar Manny Pacquiao (L) and three-time world champion Antonio Margarito (R) to Cowboy Stadium at the press conference Friday for their upcoming mega fight on November 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington,Texas. Pacquiao vs Margarito is promoted by Top Rank in association with MP Promotions and Cowboys Stadium. This telecast will be available live on HBO Pay Per View.
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