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Andre Ward Aiming To Shock The World
By Raymond Markarian
A boxing gym is not always the prettiest place in the world, but there isn't always a direct line between beauty and effectiveness. The gym, in all its squalid glory, is the place where champions are built. King’s Gym in Oakland, Ca, the headquarters of Andre Ward’s training camp for his fight on November 21st, is no different.
Ward is attempting to acquire star status by defeating Mikkel Kessler, his toughest opponent to date, and Kings Gym is where he lays down the ground work.
Inside the building off of 29th and 35th street, the white walls are plastered with pictures of past great champions and old fight posters. Photos of Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Julio Cesar Chavez are placed next to a poster of Foreman vs. Ali, not to mention a huge banner across the back of the room, which spotlights Ward’s 2004 Olympic gold medal. There are boxing images everywhere. I scoped the room in search of enough space to place another fight poster and did not find much unused area.
It was both interesting and entertaining walking through the gym as I waited for Ward to arrive. The place has a smell of sweat and old rusty, but perfectly usable, dumbbells. The weights are placed in the front, and the ring is in the back of the room, surrounded by five heavy bags and a few speed bags.
A couple of heavyweights were sparring as I walked in. Funny thing was that I felt that I was the only one paying attention to them besides their corner man. All the other gym members were doing their own thing. There were a couple of guys lifting weights, a young lady shadowboxing on her own, and another young amateur, who happened to be Ward’s god-brother, jumping rope like an expert. The sense of the boxing culture and family-like environment was clearly there.
The place reminds me of the part in Rocky III when Apollo Creed took Rocky to Los Angeles to train with the other fighters that had the “eye of the tiger,” except Kings Gym was not as dark.
Actually the gym was lit up pretty nicely. Members of the Showtime production team were there to set up for their countdown show to promote the Super Six Tournament, and Ward’s upcoming bout with Kessler. As soon as Ward walked in and greeted people in the gym including myself, he was asked to go upstairs into the locker room for an interview with the Showtime team.
There was no Jim Gray, Gus Johnson, or Al Bernstein in sight; instead, Ward was being asked questions by the same guys that were setting up the lighting arrangements near the ring downstairs. He was up there for what seemed like an eternity. One member of Ward’s camp said, “I don’t know what is taking so long. They are probably only going to use about five minutes of what he is saying.”
Meanwhile Virgil Hunter, Ward’s trainer, and the rest of the camp were waiting patiently. During the waiting game, Hunter had a few choice words about the upcoming Ward/Kessler fight. The ultra confident trainer laughed confidently when I asked him if he thinks Ward is going to knock Kessler out. “Let’s just say that my fighter is going to hit him real hard,” Hunter said. “My guy can hit. You have heard what they said. They say that he is a slick boxer. But I think Andre is the strongest puncher in the super middleweight division.
“You see Kessler is a good fighter and he is very good at what he does. But there has been no evidence of Kessler coming out of the box.”
The box Hunter is referring to begins with the way Kessler plants his feet. Hunter feels like Kessler has a very wide stance and does not have much range on his punches. Hunter said that Kessler like to lure people into his “box” in order for him to land more accurate, and solid punches, otherwise Kessler is reaching and tends to get caught. Hunter also thinks Ward will keep Kessler off balance, and he used the Edison Miranda fight as an example.
“Miranda said it himself,” Hunter says. “He said ‘I did not think it was going to be this hard. I spent 75% of the fight trying to find where this guy was.’ Andre does that to you. He is fast, athletic, and powerful.”
For the Kessler fight, Hunter is taking the blueprint of Joe Calzaghe’s attack against Kessler and putting his own twist on it. Calzaghe won an entertaining but one sided fight over Kessler by using his speed and keeping his hands in Kessler’s face. But the Welshman did not use much power. And power is what Hunter thinks will be the difference between Calzaghe and Ward against Kessler. The trainer believes that Kessler does not respect Ward’s power or his chance to win for that matter.
“I know he did not want to come across the water. But he did not feel like he was going to be challenged. At the press conference Mikkel said that he does not think Andre has any power and I was happy because that is going to play right into our hands.”
As our conversation about Ward/Kessler turned into a debate the greatness of Joe Calzaghe, and about how Roy Jones has evolved as a fighter, and whether or not Jones has a chance to defeat Bernard Hopkins, I look to my right and notice Andre Ward shadowboxing alone in the ring. Hunter and I both glance at Ward and continue to talk boxing. Then the discussion returns to focus on the 2004 Olympic gold medalist. “Let me tell you one thing about that guy in the ring,” Hunter states as he gestures towards Ward. “He does not think anyone could beat him. And that is the key right there.”
After another few minutes of going back and forth with me, Hunter walks into the ring, throws on the mitts and puts his young fighter to work. As Ward circles the ring and hits the mitts, Hunter follows him, and talks in his ear after every thudding punch. I cannot make out what Hunter is saying in there, but it was obviously getting Ward fired up. The shots that Ward was throwing were getting harder and harder.
Combination punches, POW, POW, POW. There were other people working out in the gym. But at that time, it seemed like the only noise that could be heard was coming from that ring. And it was about a twenty minute session with no breaks in between, mind you.
Afterwards, Ward went from the heavy bag to the speed bag and did a few other routines before I had a chance to speak with him for a few minutes. (According to my mind clock, Ward trained for about an hour without taking breaks and was yet to be finished).
Do you work on the same things everyday I asked him? “Everything just gets monotonous. I don’t do the same things every day but things just get monotonous in training. I never really stop training during the day. It is constant. I just want to go in the fight,” Ward said. “I am ready to go to war right now.”
How do you stay motivated?
“I keep myself motivated by what is up ahead. I mean, if work gets monotonous it doesn’t mean that you stop working. Winning the championship of the world, and how it is going to change my life, that’s it right there. That is enough to get me motivated right there.”
Back to Hunter, the trainer stated that Kessler has little chance for victory, and the only chance Kessler does have to defeat Ward is if we see a Kessler that we have never seen before, which in his mind is practically impossible. However, Ward had his own thoughts on the possibilities of a Kessler victory.
“In my mind I don’t think he is going to win even if we see another Kessler,” Ward said. “He is going to make some adjustments. The way he fought Calzaghe is different from the way he fought Librado Andrade. He will be slightly different but at this point, it doesn’t matter. I am putting in the work. I am ready to go to work. I am ready to fight. I am ready to do what I need to do to bring this belt home. That’s it.”
Ward also relishes the fact that Kessler his little respect for his power.
“I don’t know what it is. But Miranda said the same thing. Miranda said that he did not think it was going to be this hard. My most powerful weapon is being underestimated. I don’t know if I am going to be underestimated after this fight. I don’t know what it is but we’ll see.”
About his weight, Ward feels like he is on the right track come fight night.
“I am right where I want to be. You can’t be right there. I learned this from Bernard Hopkins, you have to train on something. You need extra pounds to train on. You have to have some calories on you. You can’t be at 169 right now when you are fighting at 168, it does not work like that. But I am right where I want to be three weeks before the fight.”
Hunter spoke of an interesting note about their game plan going into the fight. He does not believe in his fighter going in the ring with a textbook like assignment to dissect his opponent. Hunter would rather rely on Ward’s athletic ability and instincts to take over the bout.
“There is no real game plan. You don’t want your fighter going in there thinking about a plan because things change in a fight. There is going to be adjustments. And we have been working together for so long, that we see the same things,” Hunter said. “Sometimes he comes back to the corner and says ‘Did you see that?’ And I agree with him by nodding my head, uh huh.”
No matter what Ward and Hunter plan to do, it is clear that they are taking Kessler very seriously, and they are motivated to, in their own words, “shock the world” on November 21st.
“This tournament is not set up for us to win,” Hunter said. “When we win this fight I think it is going to change a lot of things.”
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GOAT:
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Ward will win the tourney. He is the most complete fighter in the tourney. ANDRE WARD Bomaye!!
Monday Nov 2, 2009 03:23:47 PM
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MisterLee:
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I'm changing my prediction to Andre Ward by Late Round TKO, the ONE thing i'll ever agree with GOAT about. Holler!
Monday Nov 2, 2009 03:40:20 PM
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ali:
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I hope Ward wins but I think Kessler is going to win
Monday Nov 2, 2009 03:48:22 PM
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deepwater:
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Im picking Kessler.If ward boxes like dirrell he will not win. the pro game is not the olmpics.The judges are going to award the fight to whoever trades more heavy punches and is more aggressive.It doesnt matter if ward hits and runs and score points.I hope ward wins but I dont see it happening here.
Monday Nov 2, 2009 03:52:21 PM
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“This tournament is not set up for us to win,” Hunter said He has that right.lol. Ward needs to close the show big time or he will not get the nod.This tourny is set up against america.punch ward punch
Monday Nov 2, 2009 03:54:51 PM
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MisterLee @ deepwater:
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Yo dude! Name me ONE fight that ward fought like dirrell. *waiting*
Monday Nov 2, 2009 04:29:29 PM
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RIVERSIDE:
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kessler is very good fighter, wards only chance is to box and move out of kesslers range, it's not wise to trade bombs with kessler, i'm hoping ward come in trading bombs and fighting fire with fire, it will be hell of a fight, the miranda fight is misleading, miranda is walking sack of potatoes, good fight can't wait
Monday Nov 2, 2009 04:39:04 PM
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deepwater:
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When I mention the dirrell fight, what i mean is even if ward lands more punches,but moves and boxes a little too much he will not get the nod.This tournament is rewarding the agrressive fighters(froch). dirrell did not trade at all he was the better boxer and landed more but he did not trade. looking back at ward,shelby pudwell is no kessler,lol. but going back what about the darnell boone fight on the west copast a few years ago? you -tube it. how bout the jerson revelo fight? you tube it. if ward doesnt step it up and close the show he will not win by out jabbing and moving. could ward beat calzage mr lee?
Monday Nov 2, 2009 04:51:34 PM
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Smiley C:
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Andre "SOG" Ward is going to knockout the boxing stiff fo' sure!
Monday Nov 2, 2009 05:14:03 PM
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MisterLee @ deepwater:
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I never seen darnell boone, but ward knocked out jerson ravelo. He's a member of the sweet science, like dawson but with better KO rate. He's knocked out 12 of his last 14 opponents. You can say you don't like his style, but he sure throws and connects with more power punches than dirrell. Holler! and he's not a jabber, he works hard on the inside and rough houses. I guess you just chose to put him in the "slick boxer" category without looking hard at his fights (he f'ed up miranda, everything shy of taking him out for good). Pc!
Monday Nov 2, 2009 05:33:56 PM
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deepwater:
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Mirana is a talking punching bag. king arthur knocked miranda out in a few rounds. Im not saying I dont like wards style what im saying is if he isnt aggressive with kessler, if he keeps it moving and doesnt trade that much, he cant win. you tube the boone fight. if ward can stand in the pocket and trade he can win it,the question is will he. have you boxed before mr lee?
Monday Nov 2, 2009 05:41:12 PM
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deepwater:
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oh and ward looked great against that monster pudwell.watch out kessler.lol. could ward of beaten calzage?
Monday Nov 2, 2009 05:46:57 PM
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RIVERSIDE:
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kessler ud, or kessler late stoppage if ward decides to leave everything in the ring, ward is going to get hit, thats when his stragedy goes out the door
Monday Nov 2, 2009 05:58:21 PM
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Twik:
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Ward is going to box Kessler's head off and knock him spastic. Kessler is a head straight-up moving straight in and out. A hook and a right cross will conclude him in about round nine.
Monday Nov 2, 2009 06:51:59 PM
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brownsugar:
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the way I see it,.. Miranda Beat Abraham thier first bout,... but the ref took a point from him every time Miranda punched him to the body,..from the chest to his trunks(and called it a low blow),.. the filthy officiating also stopped Miranda whenever he had Abraham on the ropes in several very compromising occasions,.. While using a lame exuse like,... "yer trunks are saggin" bullcrap to justify the interruption,.. the REF even let Abraham have several meetings during the bout for no reason when Abraham tried to quit,... (they told him,.."you quit,..you lose" while allowing him to catch his breath) to his credit Abraham continued,.. BUTdont try to make him a Hero,....years later Miranda didn't come to the rematch with the same dedication and got crushed,...however .Miranda fought Ward with much more tenacity than he's fought anyone in the last 5 years because he thought Ward was a pampered golden p*ssy who didn't know what to do in a real fight,.It was Miranda's biggest opportunity to turn everything around. and Ward taught him the true meaning of respect...in every way,... Ward will also dissect Kessler,.. slowly analysising him,.. testing him,.. and striking like a hidden viper in tall grass whenever the opportunity presents itself,... And don't make too much of the Calzaghe fight(with Kessler),..Joe's greatest attribute was that he trained like a man possessed,.. and always overcame good boxers in the later rounds with superior conditioning,.. but a master boxer he wasn't,.. he was determined and focused at best,.. ....and so is Ward,..plus he can box,.....I like Ward in this fight by any means necessary.......can't wait to see it....
Monday Nov 2, 2009 07:04:09 PM
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Isaiah:
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I sitck by my predictions. MisterLee, your're going to have to let me borrow a big pot of crow and serve it all the way around when Kessler puts a whoopin on Andre Ward who is really jumping up WAY TOO FAR in class for one fight. You don't just jump immediatly up after beating medicore opponents and expect to beat the best SuperMiddle Weight in the world. It just doesn't "USSUALLY" happen. Kessler is going to put such a beatdown on Ward, he'll never be the same again. Kessler is just too good. Sorry. Kessler by UD.
Monday Nov 2, 2009 07:47:23 PM
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DaveB:
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I picked Ward and Abraham to be the favorites. I feel Ward will beat Kessler. I think Kessler is overrated and Ward is underrated. I just don't see Kessler having enough grit to win this thing.
Monday Nov 2, 2009 08:20:46 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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I'm listening to all of you with respect as always....but frankly I'm not hearing enough from those who have seen Kessler frequently enough to pass accurate judgement. I include myself. We know that he was competitive with Joe Calzaghe....and Brownsugar is right in many regards about Joe.....but one fight does not make a career. He has not fought enough or stayed as busy as he would have liked since, primarily because of promotion/contractual problems. This inactivity must or at least may be a factor. Ward on the other hand is still green as a pro, IMHO. He has the skills and the will but the unknown caliber of Kessler, to this observer at least, makes this a pick'em. My guess....and that's all I can do: Kessler by UD.
Monday Nov 2, 2009 10:34:21 PM
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TEACHER:
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Kessler vs Abraham in the finals, ward doesn't stand a chance with his safety first style, this tournament is set up to weed out the pretenders and Ward will be the second after Dirrell.
Monday Nov 2, 2009 11:35:07 PM
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@ deepwater, you even see the whole jerson ravelo or miranda fight? Do you remember in about round 7 when ward cornered Miranda and forced him in an infighting trade off, where he got hit 0, but potshotted miranda on and off like that from rounds 7-9? Did you see ward pot shot counter and power punch ravelo and knock him out? How come you aren't still talking about the ravelo fight? B/c you only seen a highlight of ward with a music video on youtube before commenting on here? Does Michael Woods have to be a great boxer to write articles? Is Roy jones the best announcer in the world? My "boxing status" has nothing to do with these fighters and who they're bound to fight. If you actually saw ward miranda round 7, you'd see that ward wasn't a pretty and slick boxer like he's stereotyped to be. Ward gets in your face, he doesn't just stick and move. BTW- I'm martial artist, i been doing it since i was 13, during that time I learned some kickboxing, and i been studying the sweet science on my own for the last 2 years. Slipping punches, jabbing, working on a good left hook, getting good defense etc.. I ain't the best boxer, but i know what i'm looking at when i'm watching a fight, and i've sparred pple in a martial arts arena and competition before. That takes away from the point, do you know anything about ward besides him being the only olympic gold medalist from US since david reid 1996? And you tout abraham, but miranda whooped his ARSE castillo 1 style and broke his jaw in two so abraham couldnt' even close his mouth, with blood flowing out of his open mouth. His corner forced him to fight when he didnt' want to fight, the ref helped him with unusual long amounts of time outs in which his corner was tending to his wound illegally , then giving miranda an unheralded 6 pts off for body blows on the belt line, and abraham could only be rewarded for having finished the fight, not winning. No one could ever say that abraham "outboxed" miranda, as he went into peek a boo and rope a dope second fight, and waited for miranda to punch himself out, and then went for the kill. All BS. And kessler? Did he have his hands full with that "monster" tune up fight? They're called tune up fights for a reason. See, in boxing, there are "showcase" fights which help to display the talent of a fighter, draw more fans, and help the boxer stay sharp. This is what happened in September, should I pull out some articles for you to read up on tune up fights (like berto urango, or mayweather marquez). I should explain it to you more next time so you don't take "monster" pudwill coming up from middleweight and from a one round knockout with duddy as a serious contender next time. Can you name me a round and a fight within Ward's last 5 fights in which he had only "jabbed and moved'. The running pattern in his fights are that the opponents underestimate him, so in the first 3 rounds, they try rough housing him, and fouling him (miranda's first round intentional headbutt) and low blow him to take him"out of his game" as to say hey! watch out, this is the pros, watch how pros can get rough and cheat. Then after some pot shotting and countering, ward takes over with great boxing and power punching. If you only watch the first 2 rounds of a ward fight, that's all you'll see, but ward eventually knocks them out, or makes them pay for staying on their feet (buchanan and miranda). So yeah, tell me more about ward? and tell me more about the sweet science and about how much more you know than me. Ya fellas wanna battle, a chacha-chacha-cha. Ya can be good as the best can be, but not bad as the worst, so don't test me, GET MONEY! Ya betta move over, GET MONEY! Holler!
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 10:41:37 AM
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deepwater:
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mister lee you should hang with lil kim if you gonna rap like that. put your money where you mouth is.if you live in ny lets throw a $100 on it. hmm ward beat miranda who has no boxing skills! is the the same miranda in the corner that got ktfo by abraham and kelly pavlik? is it the same miranda that broke abrahams jaw in round 2 and couldnt finish him? dont give ward too much respectr for teeing off on a limited miranda. its good that you have some experience with fighting but a person who has boxed has more of an idea of what goes on in the ring. mayweather -marquez was a joke when the contract was signed.I dont claim I know more then anyone but i can disagree with your opinion . kessler wins this one.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:13:19 PM
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I'm taking Andre Ward in this one. He is way more intelligent and thorough than Dirrell. Ward has versatility, more than any of the other fighters in this tourney. Yeah Dirrell can switch up, so can Ward. That's not what I meant, Ward can win ugly or clean. I noticed that in the Miranda fight and really became a fan after that one. Some of you have an opinion of Miranda after that fight, SOG is the reason why. I saw him take Mirandas killer right right on the button an ate it like an appitizer. The guy is focused and getting better. A lot of people are hyped up off of Kessler but I have a question. Besides maybe power...what does Kessler do better.??? I'm rolling with Andre Ward...why ? Same reason I'm rolling with Cotto. I think the guy is the better boxer, better fighter.
p.s. I don't think Kessler hits harder thqan Miranda. Dueces
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 06:20:44 PM
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Well put BrownSugar......Misterlee , I've notice that Master boxers really coast until the fourth round. That's when the fight really begins. Peep it next time you study fights. That's one of the suttle differences between a talented fighter an a intelligent talented fighter. For instance, Jermain Taylor as oppose to Mayweather doesn't understand this because he's too tight and nervous. He doesn't relax and box loose and doesn't allow himself to think, adapt, and let his natural skills flow natural. Speaking of flow.....Andre Ward can flow ...or fight Fluid.....relaxing ,thinking, adapting. Kessler on the other hand has good fundamentals,good speed and power, but poor fluidity. He's stiff and he can be tightened up but is formidable and will be dangerous. Kessler has heart but I think the speed ,intelligence, and versatility of Ward we be his undoing. I see the inside fightgame keeping him off balance. Dueces
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 06:49:42 PM
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the Roast:
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This is a tough one to call. The home court advantage is a big factor in this fight. I dont think Kessler will be able to handle Ward's speed. With the crowd on Ward's side, Kessler will have to score a knockdown or two at the very least to win this one. Ward by UD.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 08:15:14 PM
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Dissecting Kesslers game is the short term goal. Then staying consistent vs Taylor and Dirrell the next. Then if he meets someone like Froch in the semi's that will be a easy win because like Calzaghe he can box circles around guys like Froch.
Would love to see a Ward/Abraham final but Kessler is the first real BIG test. Would especially like to see Ward win it, and have Calzaghe out of retirement when the tourney reaches the semis. Joe would tune-up vs Bute, Dawson, or Pascal then have a final Superfight vs the Super Six winner. The result:
A) Joe would be a 39 yr old 48-0 undisputed champ of the 1993-2011 era or
B) Ward would prove himself the undisputed best of the current class and only one to defeat Joe.
Even if Ward fight to a close decision loss- he could battle through and wind up in the finals. This opener will be a great fight to see too top boxers at work. Both are close enough to prime fighting age Mikkel is top dog till he gets knocked off.
Nothing to lose Andre. Will be there to support.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 09:40:48 PM
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MisterLee@ deepwater:
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Wow, way to get things nice and personal! I don't gamble, I live on the East Coast, i guess you're some boxing expert/trainer/former golden gloves amateur and/or pro that means your opinions matter so much more than mine or other pple on here! so than i guess angelo dundee's opinions mean 1 million times more than ours, since he has more boxing knowledge than almost everyone on TSS put together (tho he's gotten all his recent predictions wrong, and roger mayweather putting himself on the line for the Hatton fight too!). But it's nice you make no realistic boxing argument except using pathos to talk about YOUR boxing pedigree, about rap music, about gambling $100, and about simplisitc arguments of so and so beat so and so, so that's why this guy will not do good agst this guy. You haven't answered my question: name a round in ward's last fight in which he jabbed and moved and didn't throw right hands or straight lefts. When you brought it up to me, the jerson ravelo fight (which you haven't seen) i remember ward's finishing blow was a left hook right cross combo that just dropped ravelo like a sack of bricks. That's ain't no stick and move! Also, you haven't stood up with argument about Pudwill and the "showcase" fight, as if it WAS supposed to be a 12 round back and forth, life and death before super six. You haven't stood up to why you think andre ward is a "slick boxer" who can't power punch, who runs, and who gets knocked down easily, and also, you haven't told me why abraham beating miranda was so superior to ward beating miranda, even tho abraham got beat up, and was protected by the referee (in case you forgot) and the corner, and the officials (6 pts deducted, long time outs, his corner forcing him to continue, judges screwing over miranda, hometown decision). So yeah man, it seems you got more questions to answer than I do. I ain't gambling money, but I'm brewing crow, and talking boxing. You just makin' things personal. You started a battle, go a finish it man. Check ya on the flipside. Holler! Xy Chromosones holler at cha xx chromo!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 09:01:36 AM
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DEEPWATER@MRLEE:
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.I dont claim I know more then anyone but i can disagree with your opinion . kessler wins this one.
Tuesday Nov 3, 2009 12:13:19 PM
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:36:00 AM
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MisterLee:
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"its good that you have some experience with fighting but a person who has boxed has more of an idea of what goes on in the ring" Would that be you? So far, you backing up your talk as much as Mayorga in his pre-fight talks. So you gonna abandon your claims about ward or what? Pc!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:42:53 AM
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ok .Now I have some time. Didnt mean to offend you just wanted to know if you boxed,the lil kim thing was a joke.now thats out of the way. shelby pudwell was brought in to be knocked out we all know that so of course ward wouldnt box and move against pudwell. even duddy knocked out pudwell in the first round,so that fight means zip. Miranda is tough but he is like a punching bag no defense. before miranda fought ward he was brutalized by pavlik. he was ko'd by abraham in the begining of the second fight so can you say softened up? all Im saying is dont put too much value in those fights. want to see ward try and knock someone out,but cant and have to move and jab for awhile? look at youtube and the darnell boone . All I said is if ward moves and boxes too much he will not get the win even if he lands more.the judges are going for agression .could ward beat calzage? hey wait a minute, looking back at your old post you had kessler.lol.
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 10:52:40 AM
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MisterLee:
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Yo yo... no harm done. But i don't need to look at youtube, i've downloaded most of ward's recent fights from boxingscene, and having seen them back to back several times, and even having seen ward's first pro fight, his biggest thing was not boxing too much but being too impatient. He pot shotted his first opponent and walked thru his punches and was off balance from being too eager for the KO. All i asked was a round from his recent 5 fights. Irrelevant. And i never woud have picked kessler to win super six, since i sign all my posts with Andre Ward 2009! I might have mentioned once that kessler may take time to work towards, but i agree with virgil hunter, ward with his pedigree and experience and skills is better than what his record makes him out to be. You're pointing out one of ward's earlier fights i guess, but he did have a series of about 10 KO 's in a row. He gonna beat up kessler and knock him out. Crow will be served with joy. and your right, i don't know hip hop, but that's besides the point,just sticki'n with boxing. i do think the miranda that showed up was a hungry one, the one that beat up allan green, and the one who was at a crossroads bout and wanted to beat up this "pretty boy boxer" who will surely "not switch to southpaw agst a real pro". Miranda was still game, maybe not the miranda from abraham one, but not a shot fighter either. Holler!
Wednesday Nov 4, 2009 11:07:55 AM
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2009 Reader Of The Year Weighs In On Legacies Of Pacquiao And Mayweather
"Pacquiao has proven....in the ring... time and time again that he is the greatest of this time. He has earned his respect. He begs for nothing. He is a man content with his growth, his family and his achievements. A man the world has now turned it's eyes to behold. Floyd Mayweather is not even close in stature. He may possess the greatest skills but he is not the Face of Boxing today. Google Manny Pacquiao. There are 20 million searches. Google Floyd. There are 6.5 million. Look at the NYTimes, the Wall Street Journal and Time. Count how many words were used these past years to mention Floyd Mayweather. Then count the words still being printed about Manny. And keep counting. As I've said many times, Floyd has been too clever by half. He has short changed his public.....and has out-smarted himself. Manny will fight but a few more times. Enjoy it while you can. He is an all time great pugilist. Floyd, with all of his remarkable skills lack the will to be truly great in the biggest sense of the word. His legacy will look more like Holmes that Ali. He has earned it." ---November is half-way gone, but we don't need to keep counting ballots. It's a landslide. Fe'Roz has won the 2009 Reader of the Year award. His comments add to the website immeasurably, and he epitomizes the thoughtful, respectful, educated fan of pugilism we strive to cater to at TSS. Congrats, Fe'Roz, and please accept my thanks for being the valued member of this community that you are. Sincerely, Editor Mike
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