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Boxing Being Run SmoothlyRight Into The Ground
By Ron Borges
The selfishness of the men who have bled boxing dry seemingly is the one thing about the sport that is still boundless.
Certainly talent is not anymore, at least not in the United States. Neither is money or people still willing to spend it on the sport. Lastly, television dates are not only no longer boundless, they are in ever shorter supply, especially if HBO’s suits go through with a threat to cut 20% from the sports department’s budget in 2010.
Yet the people running boxing into the ground – and frankly it’s nearly everyone involved on the management side of the sport – never seem capable of stopping themselves when their own self-interest comes into play. The latest examples of this are provided by West Coast promoter Dan Goossen and German promoter Wilfried Sauerland and his hatchet man, Chris Meyer, thus proving at least that greed is universal.
The former has raised the possibility that if Jermain Taylor is unable or unwilling to continue in SHOWTIME’s Super 6 super middleweight tournament after being savagely knocked out for the second straight fight and third in his last four losses last Saturday night by Arthur Abraham, his fighter, Edison Miranda, should get a shot at the designated first alternate, Allan Green, before Green is admitted because several years ago Miranda gave Green his only loss.
To this there is one obvious answer: NO!
What is the point of having designated a first alternate if when it comes time to use him somebody else interjects themselves into a debate when there should be no debate? That’s the essence of the business of boxing. Muddy the waters, raise enough red herrings to feel like you’re Norwegian. Do whatever you can to get your fingers into the till, even though it is just this kind of confusion that has so marginalized the sport with the public in the first place.
Although world champion Lucian Bute deserves to be in the tournament more than half the guys in it (including Taylor) he’s not. So be it. Green deserves to be in it less than Bute but more than Taylor or Miranda, who has been exposed several times as a wild-swinging amateur with power but no defense and a glass head.
Did he beat Green? Yes. Has he lost enough times since while Green has not to nullify any claim to tournament entry? Yes.
Most significantly, it’s SHOWTIME’s tournament. Vice-president Ken Hershman came up with the idea and the format and named Green first alternate. The result has been wide spread acceptance of the idea in the public’s mind and a clear likelihood that when the winner emerges he will be accepted universally as the world champion regardless of what any phony alphabet group or bombastic promoter has to say.
What Goossen is trying to do is what boxing promoters always try to do. Bend the situation to their favor by making an argument when there is no case. Because A happened to B doesn’t mean E should happen to B when you conveniently leave out what C and D did to A in the interim. Miranda had many chances to further his career while Green was doing the same. He failed miserably at it. It happens. That doesn’t mean he didn’t defeat Green when they met. It only means what he did after that cost him. For SHOWTIME to be intimidated or bamboozled into anything but following its original plan would be folly. It would also be typical boxing.
Same is true for the foolish situation heavyweight contender Alexander Povetkin is now being led into by Sauerland. Povetkin is a kid with 17 professional fights. Somehow his success in those fights led him to becoming the IBF’s No. 1 contender, which is ludicrous on the face of it but a story for another day.
What it means is Povetkin is the mandatory challenger for Wladimir Klitschko. What it doesn’t mean is that he yet knows how to fight.
Klitschko has a WBO mandatory due as well and the two organizations agreed the WBO’s would come first, followed immediately by the IBF’s sometime next summer or fall. That would leave Povetkin (who has been training with Teddy Atlas in New Jersey for about two months) time for several tune up fights to better prepare himself to win. Klitschko has said he has no problem with that, yet Sauerland, Meyer and allegedly Don Majeski, who is the kind of guy who has helped diminish boxing for decades, combined to convince the IBF that Povetkin had been “harmed’’ by having to wait for Klitschko and thus got them to order an interim title fight against Eddie Chambers.
Except A) he wasn’t going to be harmed by the time off, he was going to benefit by improving himself as a fighter and B) they knew Chambers was not available because he was already negotiating with Klitschko for the WBO mandatory in March. What the latter meant is that Povetkin would end up fighting the dangerous and powerful Samuel Peter in January without having had a fight in nearly a year.
How is that good management? How is that acting in the best interest of your fighter? How is it even legal after the IBF told Klitschko to go first and fight his WBO mandatory without penalty?
Klitschko has violated no rules of either organization, has not asked the IBF for an extension on his mandatory and has told the organization that while he is willing to let Povetkin fight for an interim title if he’d like he is not willing to give up any of the rights of a full champion, meaning most importantly there will be no extra 10% to Povetkin or Peter if they win a phony “interim’’ championship.
So here’s the picture. Sauerland, who hates Klitschko and also doesn’t trust him, blocked a tune up fight in Baltimore for Povetkin by threatening to sue while trumpeting all over Germany a January heavyweight “title’’ fight for Povetkin with Chambers when he knows it will be with the far more dangerous Peter and will lead to NO improvement in his fighter or his negotiating position with Klitschko because Klitschko is prepared to sue the IBF if they try any shenanigans that cost him a nickel.
Why would Sauerland do this to his own fighter? For the same reason Goossen is trying to interject his fighter into a tournament he hasn’t earned the right to be in. Greed and in the former’s case perhaps by having little interest in or understanding of how to properly develop a young fighter into a guy who doesn’t just fight for a title but comes prepared to win it.
A fighter with as little experience or understanding of what his identity is in the ring as Povetkin has is not going to beat Wladimir Klitschko but the real danger is that he won’t beat Peter, who despite his flaws is the division’s most dangerous puncher when he’s in any kind of shape excluding round.
Yet rather than do your job properly, which is get your fighter as prepared as possible to win a real world title, Sauerland is willing to sell him out so he can promote a heavyweight “title’’ fight that is nothing of the kind. He might fool the German public with that. He might fool Povetkin’s Russian managers with that. But it’s not likely he’s fooled Povetkin. Povetkin in his heart knows damn well he’s not ready for Klitschko and shouldn’t be taking the risk of fighting a puncher like Peter. Not when he has a bigger fight waiting that is still far enough off that he could fight several more times while continuing to train with Atlas in America and thus be at his optimum, whatever that is, when he finally gets a shot at the real champion next year.
That is the kind of selfish, self-absorbed thinking that has boxing on the brink of extinction. Saddest of all, it’s not exclusive to Goossen or Sauerland, its epidemic in a sport where these kinds of men all say they love boxing and then work regularly to destroy its legitimacy in the public’s mind just to make a fast buck.
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RG - the HBO 24/7 session about PacMan in PI is going to be GOOD - don't be jealous, haters:
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Wow! What a piece, Superfightwriter Ron B. Nonetheless, boxing has been "on the brink of extinction" for ages. I guess you can say it is like the world. People have always said that the end is near, since as long as I can remember moving on two scores. I know boxing people who are long gone now. I'm certain that you know most of the same ones that I do. These guys said that they don't remember a time that journalists and "plain old folks" were not predicting the "extinction" of the hurt bitnezz and hurting humans. They went further to say -- BULL! "Boxing, humans, cockroaches and ants will just keep evolving and recycling and b*tching." They are too "stubborn to throw in the towel. And the sh*t ain't ever gonna be completely legit." IMO boxing is a metaphor for life. There will always be ridiculous claims about good fighters being terrible to keep them out of the action. Just there will be ridiculous claims about terrible fighters being good to keep them a part of the action. And the deepest pockets will win 95 percent of the time. Greed brings need and need brings greed. And it the end, the lawyers come "just to make a fast buck," and put out loads of bullsh*t on the naive public. I'm reminded of the great person who said, "The public be damn." And this is the way, it is going to be. Maybe promoter DiBella is spot on in saying that "boxing is like pronography, somebody will alway (be gladly paying to watch) it." That somebody is that small-money making, big-money spending public. Those people with the less show off the most. Holla!
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 04:47:52 PM
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RG - babalik sa USA:
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*Just as there will be...
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 04:50:28 PM
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deepwater:
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Didnt everyone sign contracts already? Edison Miranda and his promoters should of attempted to get in negotiations while they were making up this tournament. so beat it Gossen. Wait until the dust settles,in the mean time go down to Fl and have Edison knock out a few journey man at the hardrock. for a year or so. This tournament is very good for boxing.I believe its Taylor and his family to decide if he fights again.We have our opionions but he is a freeman and has a right to get in the ring if he passes his medical. anyone can die in the ring on any night.its a fact.
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 06:33:49 PM
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Isaiah:
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The contract has been set. If Jermaine Taylor is unable to continue in this tournament, Allan Green is a go. Tell Edison Miranda and his team to buzz off. By the way, Povektin is in no way ready for Wladmer Klitshcko and would be exposed badly.
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 11:30:56 PM
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GOAT:
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I always said boxing is a dirty rough business to be involved in. That's why I don't blame PBF, Pacman, Hatton, Hopkins and all other fighters who negotiate deals that's in their interest. Let me take Pacman off that list because Arum negotiates for Pacman. At the end of the day, it's the fighters that's going to be taking the punches and they should determine who, when, and where they fight.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 06:40:10 AM
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Ales:
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Somehow I agree with Ron. Povetkin may not be ready for Wladimir, but he earned his title shot more than any other contender. Sauerland also played purse bid well, forcing K2 to bid high $12M, resulting in $3M for POvetkin. Why this move, endangering it, I have no idea.
There's a possibility Sauerland has a plan we don't know about, though. But if that results in Peter fight, they are just stupid.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 10:37:40 AM
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Lucas:
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Excellent article!!!
However,i don't think Peter is that dangerous,he was down 3 times against Mcline and he never defeated A fighters.
Peter has limited boxing skills,i think Povetkin can out box him easily.
Peter has decent power,but that's it, he isn't a terrific puncher.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 11:07:09 AM
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Frank Z@ Radam:
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I agree that boxing's demise is probably exaggerated, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't need drastic changes. no one knows who the true best fighter in each division is and p4p is just speculation, and it's just completely backwards that the guys in suits who never have to get hit, who never have to push their bodies and spirits in camp and in fights have to be the ones doing the BS string pulling and putting unneeded stress on the fighters and trainers. meanwhile, some fighters will have no incentive to improve and we all get a lesser product as an art form and a spectator sport.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 12:29:27 PM
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bill major:
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hopefully teddy atlas will have some say in this situation. it is terrible and dangerous for that matter. these guys are freaking snakes anyway.it would be a joke to have povetkin fight doc klitchko right now.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 12:52:08 PM
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RG - back in Cali and drinking Mountain tea from birth place - Republica ng Pilipinas @ FZ:
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Wow! Z Man, you know that the guys in suits are always going to put the zoom on the fighters and trainers who don't have the hook up. Even those with the hook up are going to get fish suckered a time or two. Z Man, the game will never change. It is a seedy sports that will be that way forever and a lifetime. After all, it is legal mayhem just like a war. As long as you stay within the rules, you can kill all da mutha that want to and will not go to jail. Boxing as -- in the word of promoter Lou DiBella -- will always be here "just like pronography." And to see it, the people will keep running with cash. Let me give you a newsflash. DiBella is spot on. I did my research. As long as there have been humans living on this globe, man has been chasing the bootah! That sucka needs to get off. As long as there have been human living on this globe, man as been knocking another one upside the head. Adam socked Eve. Cain rocked Abel. The fighters, without the hook up -- in your words -- who do not have "incentive to improve," are not focus. I can give you a few none-hooked up fighters who stay focus and got that belt and a couple of big purses. I will not give you recent one, but I will give you the model for all. This person name was Archibald Lee Wright. The guys in suits let that dude get old and gray and about 40 pounds heavier and over a 150 recorded bouts before they gave him a shot. Dude didn't have a hook up, but he had intense focus. When those mafia suit wearers and bigots gave him a shot, he toast behind and kept that title belt for eight to 10 years, depending on what sanctioning organization you believe. Dude started kind of late and had to put his age down by six years. (Z Man, you as a former pugilist know that people fib about their age.) May God Rest his wonderful soul because he was righteous and said, "ABC -- Any Boy Can!" Holla!
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 02:00:01 PM
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Frank Z @ Radam:
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Nah man i'm not dillusional to think that the suits of boxing will one day think nothing of their own wallets solely for the well being of the fighters... but they can't mess up the product with their pettiness. you and i both know that for every great fight that gets made there's about 5 greater fights that should get made but don't. because of this boxers see less competition, are able to pick and choose the styles they go up against, and in the end, don't have to improve. one of the reasons pacquiao has improved so much is because he's gone up against different types of fighters coming up, from a JMM, Morales and Barerra, David Diaz, Ricky Hatton. Sure boxing will always exist, people will still be willing to pay money cause we as the human race love violence in any form, but as a lover of the sport i would love to turn around and have a conversation with a stranger in a lobby about a fight, or see little kids imitating floyd and pacquiao. I get what you mean, there's been serious corruption in boxing since the mafia took over in the 50s, but at least then people knew who the best in each division is, there wasn't all this sanctioning body mess, plus boxing was just coming off one of th emost popular periods it had ever had. now we've got the nfl, mma coming up, nba. Even fighters with hook ups don't feel the need to improve, cause they can just pick and choose their fights... witness De La Hoya towards the end of this career, and unfortunately mayweather now. sure once in a while you'll have an Archibald or B-Hop who can come up with their own focus, but for every one of those guys there's probably 20 others who didn't make it or got matched up badly and hurt in the process. Hit me back bro.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 03:23:11 PM
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RG@FZ:
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True that all that you posted. Nonetheless, some boxers and trainers call it correctly and how the best should fight the best, instead of keeping a fighter undefeated with umpteen victories but cannot fight a lick. Holla at 8countnews and listen to Holy complain how he never duck anybody and was never stripped, unlike so many fighters in the last 25 to 35 years. Including GOAT Ali, Larry Holmes, Michael Tyson and Lennox Lewis just had no interest in being a undisputed champion, as did Holmes. Again google or yahoo 8countnews is get the true talk from the top dawgs of the game. Holla!
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 07:19:46 PM
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Frank Z @ Radam:
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Thanks for the heads up on 8countnews, and there are definitely exceptions like those guys you named, who never would duck anyone, mosley and pacquiao are like that today, but if the administration figures in boxing were improved, we'd see more guys come up like that, i mean who wouldn't want more pacquiaos or sugar shanes fighting each other?
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 07:54:19 PM
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joe glaser:
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Where does the writer live?Peters dangerous?Thats a thing of the past.For us in Africa he is a no hoper.Povetkin is one of the best out there,unbeaten and an Olympic gold medallist.Isnt in fact killing boxing if contenders box
tomato can after tomato can.Povetkin beat Chambers in an final eliminator?
So why should Chambers fight Klitschko first?What did Arreola do to deserve a shot?
Saturday Oct 24, 2009 03:45:36 AM
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hector l:
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The author is completely biased here. no wonder he got fired by the boston globe. he says povetkin is an unworthy #1 and a "kid who deosnt know how to fight yet" but he doesnt metnion povetkin had along anateur career ending with a gold medal in the olympics, then won an elimination tournament which included a won over eddie chambers. if boxing is being ruined by having povetkin as a mandatory, why is it ok for the guy who povetkin beat to be the mandatory? this author for some reason doesnt want anyone to know any of this. he must have an agenda.
Monday Oct 26, 2009 12:31:51 PM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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