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Three Who Were Ready And Refused To Be Denied
By Frank Lotierzo
During the modern era of professional boxing 1890 through the present there have been a few fighters who were so prepared for their opponent physically and stylistically that there's no way they were gonna lose. In some cases they fought as if winning meant living and losing was equivalent to dying. Below are three examples in which the winner fought a perfect fight strategically, and refused to be denied physically. In hindsight there's no way that they could've lost on this night to that particular opponent.
3) Roberto Duran vs. Sugar Ray Leonard I, June 20, 1980
Before their first fight Duran mocked and insulted Leonard in every way imaginable and then some. That messed with Leonard in a big way emotionally. By the night of the fight Ray wanted to destroy Roberto physically and knock him out. Duran who was the more established fighter at the time and fighting as a welterweight after reigning as the lightweight champ for seven years, was incensed by the way Leonard was treated in the media not to mention how much more money Leonard was making for the fight.
Duran weighed in at 145 and may have never been in greater shape for a fight physically. Roberto came out even more aggressively than normal in the first round and didn't allow Leonard to breathe, and made Leonard fight on the inside and with his back to the ropes for almost the entire fight. He cut the ring off and worked Leonard's body and arms unrelentingly during the bout, while also making good use of his arms, shoulders and elbows from close quarters. It was obvious to see how intent Duran was on not letting Ray have the luxury of using the ring and boxing him.
From rounds three through 15, Leonard and Duran fought on the inside, with Duran getting the better of it slightly in most of the rounds. There was plenty of holding; however, there was also plenty of fighting seeing both fighters getting off with their Sunday best. The difference was Duran was at home fighting in front of his opponent with their back against the ropes. He could sense when Leonard was about to launch a counter and made him miss more than he ever had in any fight of his career. At the same time Duran knew when Ray wanted to rest and not work, allowing him to work both hands to his head and body. Duran physically imposed himself on Leonard and his swarming attack totally disrupted him and forced Ray to fight for his life and thus earned him the decision verdict. Duran's intensity and aggression was something Sugar Ray Leonard never experienced before in a professional fight. Ultimately Duran made Leonard fight his fight and as a result won the second of the four titles he would go onto win in four different weight divisions.
2) Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling II, June 22, 1938
Two years earlier in June of 1936 Louis and Schmeling met for the first time. Louis took Schmeling lightly and did his hardest training for the fight on the golf course. When Schmeling arrived in America before the fight he said he detected a flaw in Louis's style but wouldn't reveal it until the fight. Schmeling went on to stop Louis in the 12th round of their heavyweight title elimination bout. After the fight Schmeling said Louis had a bad habit of bringing his left hand back low after he jabbed with it, which left him wide open for his hard right hand counter over the top. For 12 rounds Max smashed Louis with right hand counters to the face and jaw which he eventually crumbled under.
Forget the world politics between the United States and Germany for the rematch at the time, Louis said after he beat Jim Braddock for the title a year earlier that he wouldn't feel like the champion until he beat Schmeling in a rematch. Along with having the want to beat Schmeling, Louis had master strategist Jack Blackburn as his trainer and cornerman. Blackburn instructed Louis that bringing the left hand back low wasn't what he had to worry about most, and that his real mistake was being too far away thus enabling Schmeling to get full extension on his right hand. Max's bread and butter punch was his right and no fighter could expect to survive being caught at the end of it repeatedly.
In the rematch Louis came right out and took the fight to Schmeling in the first round. Joe was on top of Max and took away his space as he inched forward behind his hard jab looking to shoot his explosive short right to Schmeling's jaw. A minute into the round Louis nailed Schmeling with a right hand from mid-range that badly hurt Max and froze him just long enough for Joe to unload with follow up hooks and right hands. The game Schmeling went down but got up and beat the ten count. Louis knew Schmeling was going to try and bail himself out with his right hand, only he never had the chance to get it off. Louis crowded him and unloaded inside with some of the most powerful short hooks and right hands any heavyweight ever threw. Max went down again and barely beat the count. Once again Louis was on top of him, taking away the space Schmeling needed to fight him off. Without having the space he needed to fight back effectively, Louis tore Schmeling apart with more powerful hooks to the body and short rights to the chin. Max went down a third time but couldn't beat the count this time and was counted out at 2:04 of the first round.
Louis's minor adjustment, by just smothering Schmeling's right hand, is one of the best fight-to-fight adjustments in boxing history. By virtually taking away Schmeling's space to launch his, Louis opened the path for his and won one of the biggest fights in history.
1) Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali I, March 8, 1971
The "Fight Of The Century" was five years in the making. During Ali's forced exile circa 1967-70, Frazier had succeeded him as heavyweight champion and was also undefeated by the time they finally met in 1971. Before the fight Frazier's trainer Yank Durham said, "we developed a style a long time ago to beat Clay, and Joe has it down pat now."
Frazier knew he could move forward faster than Ali could go backward. He also understood that it was a lot different for Ali being forced to move back because he had no choice than it was for him to do so of his own volition. For fifteen rounds Frazier cut the ring off on Ali, slipped and got underneath his best punch, his left jab. Joe continually made Muhammad pay when he missed by coming over his low right hand with his left hook and by getting real low as he came in, forcing Ali to punch down, which greatly reduced his accuracy.
Frazier also forced Ali to fight on the inside and in doing so Ali had no choice but to try and fight Joe off by trading hooks and uppercuts, and that was Joe's fight. Frazier's unrelenting pressure didn't allow Ali to freelance and pick his shots, and made him rush his punches with the purpose of occupying Frazier and keep him off more so than trying to score or do damage. From a style vantage-point Frazier had an answer for any and everything Ali attempted to do during the bout, including not paying attention to whatever Ali said to him while they were fighting.
Heading in to their first bout Joe Frazier was prepared for Muhammad Ali physically, mentally and emotionally along with stylistically better than any fighter ever has been for one particular opponent or fight. Joe made Ali fight inside when he wanted to fight outside, forced him to fight every minute of every round, or take a body beating on the ropes when he was too tired to get away. After fourteen rounds of a brutal fight Frazier dropped Ali with a massive left hook 24 seconds into the fifteenth and final round. Ali showed monumental heart and courage by getting up at the count of four and finished the bout on his feet. However, the knockdown was the highlight of the bout and erased any doubt, not that there was much, that Frazier was the better fighter that night and was truly the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.
Joe Frazier was on a mission and knew he'd never get his due as the great fighter and champion he was had he not defeated Ali in "The Fight Of The Century." On Monday night March 8, 1971, "Smokin" Joe fought with the will and zeal of a fighter who refused to be denied, and he wasn't.
Frank Lotierzo can be reached at GlovedFist@Gmail.com
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Reno:
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I would add Hopkins v Trinidad, he completely destroyed Trinidad from the opening bell until he stopped him in the 12th. Trinidad couldn't do anything without his left hook and Hopkins took advantage of that all night.
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 08:37:38 PM
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phantasmagoric:
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Frazier was definitely awesome. How about...Huracan Hernandez vs. Hallback or the McCarter rematch?
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 10:24:13 PM
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Isaiah:
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All of these fights mentioned are worthy. One of my honabrle mentions would have to be Mike Tyson/Buster Douglass. Talk about not wanting to be denied.
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 11:28:24 PM
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barry tesar:
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Duran "won" that fight when Carlos Padilla decided to let him hold constantly. If you watch it again, you will see that Padilla never really broke the fighters cleanly. Padilla would always step away from the "breaks" while Duran was still holding on to Leonard's arm. As it was, I am not convinced Duran won. There was a lot of pro-Duran hysteria that night which was so overblown that many people lost all objectivity. The real story of the fight is that the so-called "pretty boy" fought the rough, tough Roberto Duran's fight and gave as good as he got. When the fight was over I told my friends that I thought Leonard had won. Everyone said, "No way!" But when the replay was shown the next week, they all agreed with me. Its not that I don't like Duran - I do. I just think Leonard beat him at his own game.
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 11:37:29 PM
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barry tesar:
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I agree with Isaiah- Buster was determined that night.
Wednesday Oct 21, 2009 11:39:43 PM
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Nick:
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I still think Ali won the fight of the century, if not by much. But watching the fight closely he definitely landed a lot more clean punches than Joe did over the course of the fight. The punishment he took that night was unbelievable, which is why he was in the hospital for a month after the fight.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 03:53:46 AM
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brad:
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@Barry, the last thing Duran wanted to do was "hold" Leonard in that fight. He was killing him by punching him on the inside...he didn't need to or want to hold him. Watch the fight again. It's Sugar that continually locks Duran's arms up. Padilla would simply try to push the gloves free and allow them to stay on the inside rather than break them and create distance. I like that style of officiating. Leonard held every advantage over Duran in that fight. He was in his prime, Duran had fought for 13 years. Leonard was 5'10"...Duran 5'7". He had a 7" reach advantage. I watched the fight live and had Duran winning easy. He set the pace, was effectively aggressive, was the harder puncher and made Leonard miss all night. Leonard said afterward, Duran was the toughest guy to hit he ever fought. Duran's defense waas always underrated. At time, because of his hair, it looks like he gets hit but doesn't. His head moved with the punches. He was brilliant. it was one of the greatest efforts in boxing history. He was fighting a man who was bigger,stronger, in his prime and in his weight class. Duran was a lightweight. And he did something Benitez,Hearns,Hagler couldn't do. He beat Leonard...in his prime, no less.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 04:41:40 AM
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GOAT:
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Actually, I watched the RD SRL fight a dozen or so times and everytime I belive Ray won the fight. I believe most people never seen him in a physically intense inside battle before and the judges may have gave Duran a couple of rounds because Ray fought Duran's type of fight. I'm not saying it was a robbery, but I believe Ray fought Duran's fight and won.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 06:18:07 AM
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Matthew:
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Lotierzo is right on the mark about the Louis-Schmeling and Ali-Frazier fights. There is no doubt that Padilla's refereeing helped Duran immensely (Ray Arcel wisely planted a seed in Padilla's mind before the fight). Duran won the fight when he baited Leonard into fighting toe-to-toe, a style which negated all of Ray's physical advantages. I would beg to differ about Duran making Leonard miss more than he ever had before; take a look at his fight with Benitez. Duran was an excellent defensive fighter at lightweight and welter, but Benitez was harder to hit than smoke. Despite fighting Duran's fight, it was Leonard who finished the fight stronger (I gave him the last 3 rounds). I scored the fight a draw, but I don't dispute the decision (and neither did Leonard, unlike Hagler's crying about the Leonard-Hagler bout). If Leonard fights his fight (as he did in the rematch), he probably beats Duran 9 times out of 10. This night, however, was probably Duran's finest hour.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 07:54:10 AM
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brad:
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@Matthew, Leonard "should" beat Duran 9 times out of 10. He was bigger,stronger,younger. Can you imagine Duran as a lightweight, losing to a guy coming up in weight class that is 3" shorter and has a 7-8" reach disadvantage? No way. Duran would always beat the smaller guy! His only lose at lightweight was to a fighter his size:DeJesus.
It would be like Manny Pacquiao(same height and reach as Roberto) fighting Mayweather (who is actually smaller than Leonard was) at 147 and winning. He shouldn't. It would take an incredible effort to do it....which is what you got from Duran in Montreal. An incredible effort.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 08:14:25 AM
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dr3r42:
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I think Dundee deserves some of the blame in Leonard's loss (of course Duran had a lot to do with it as well). It was Dundee's strategy to back Duran up, because he wrongly thought that Duran couldn't fight backing up. Dundee thought that since Leonard was the bigger, stronger, and more powerful man, he could physically impose his will on the smaller Duran. Angelo also believed that not only did Duran's power not carry over at welterweight, but that Duran was old and liked to rest during the rounds. He figured that if Leonard stayed on top of him and went to the body (DeJesus was the only one who had success there) that they'd wear Duran down and stop him. Yes, Leonard did want to prove to the world that he was tough, but this notion that Leonard ignored everything that Dundee trained him to do because he was angery at Duran's insults at him and his wife, is a bunch of BS. He was trained to take the fight to Duran- negating all of his speed advantages. Plus Duran's power did carry over to Welterweight as Leonard was hurt by a Duran punch in the second round. Leonard also elected to stay in the pocket because he felt safier there. Hindsight's always 20-20, and everyone makes mistakes including Dundee
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 12:04:19 PM
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dr3r42:
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An interesting "what if" article by F-Lo might be "how would the Duran and Frazier who fought in Montreal and MSG have fared against Thomas Hearns and George Foreman on those nights ?" I still think both of them lose because of styles, but it would be interesting since both fought their greatest fights that night. But a counter point could be made that despite fighting the fights of their life, both guys barely won decisions, which tells you something about the two ATG's they faced. As great as Joe was on the March 1971 night, he's still got to take shots from Foreman coming forward (which adds to his power) and he's still going to get pushed outside by George when he does get inside. Duran also has to run Hearns' gauntlet in order to get inside (again adding to Hearns' power) and he'll probably get tied up by Hearns on the inside since Steward never had him infight. Certainlly fighting Hearns at 154 added to Hearns' advantage, but I still think Roberto loses to him at 147. Still, Duran and Frazier were in way better shape and more mentally focused than when they fought Foreman (Frazier weighed 217, I think) and Hearns (154)
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 12:16:26 PM
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brad:
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@dr3r42 I agree with you that Leonard was not lured into a street fight because he wanted to defend the honor of wife. It's total bs. Leonard is a fighter and knows all about insults and trash talking. I also agree with your point that Dundee's strategy was to back Duran up. I remember Dundee telling Dick Shaap that Leonard would 'knock Duran stiff" within 5 rounds. What happened was, Leonard was coming off the Davey Boy Green fight. Leonard took Green's head off in the third or fourth round. Meanwhile, Duran was looking ordinary against welterweights like Gonzalez and Wheatly. The Leonard camp felt they could destroy the Duran they were seeing. But Duran frequently looked bad against weaker competition. He just didn't get up for those fights. He was up for the Montreal fight and Leonard was suprised.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 12:42:10 PM
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Matthew@dr and brad:
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I have to disagree with you guys, and I have the evidence to back me up. It is well documented in both Dundee's autobiography "My View From the Corner" and George Kimball's book "Four Kings" that Leonard did not heed Dundee's instructions. Leonard has stated many times over the years that no one had ever talked to him like that, and that Duran's pre-fight tactics singlehandedly caused him to change his fight plan, against the wishes of Dundee, Jacobs, and Morton. In fact, the post-fight article in Sports Illustrated (June 30, 1980) supports this. "Angelo Dundee, Leonard's trainer, counseled him to feint left and move right, to move from side to side, not to get caught on the ropes, to box. A good boxer plays checkers, Dundee said. Side, side, inside. The key is Ray's left hand. Everything off the jab...Ray will knock Duran stiff." That doesn't sound to me like Dundee wanted Leonard to stay on top of him or back him up. I agree that after Duran hurt Leonard in the 2nd round, Ray stayed close for a couple of rounds to try and get his bearings back, but that was not Dundee's game plan going in. If you watch the fight, several times between rounds Dundee is heard telling Leonard to get off the ropes and box. As far as Hearns-Duran at 147 goes, Hearns beats him every time out.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 02:26:11 PM
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Brad:
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@Matthew. I have evidence on my side also. In the Inside Sports magazine from August of 1980, Leonard Gardner wrote about the fight. Before the fight he interviewed Dundee and here what Angelo said:"Leonard's the puncher in this fight. I think Leonard's going to knock him out. Because Duran hasn't destroyed anybody as a welterweight.The reason being that he's hitting on bigger guys and the bigger guys are able to absorb it more than the little guys.he was devastating as a lightweight, but he never was one of those one-punch knocker-outers.he was a grinder.Ray's going to nail him." (page 36)
As far as Duran Hearns at 147, I would hope Hearns beats him everytime. He has a 6" height advantage and 12" reach!!! Again that would be like Duran fighting someone who is 5'1" with a 55" reach.
I'll say this. Leonard, Hearns,Hagler were lucky that they never had to face the hungry 25 year old Duran. That dude was seriously scary. Something died in Duran after Montreal. It's like he made it to the top and the fire was never quite the same.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 06:25:17 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Brad, it never died completely. It burns brightly today. In Manny Pacquiao.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 06:39:09 PM
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Brad:
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Fe'Roz you're right. Manny and Duran are very similar. Seeing the joy in Pacquiao's face as he walked to the ring to face Hatton was something inspiring. He looked like a kid, totally filled with joy. I haven't really seen that look in a fighter since Duran.In that same article about the Duran Leonard fight I referenced earlier, here is what Leonard Gardner wrote about Duran before the Leonard fight:
""Three days before the fight Duran shadowboxed two 10-minute rounds, and the energy poured from him. Joyously he prowled the ring, swaying and bobbing. he squatted,leaped high,and turned. he punched the ropes,the corner pads,circled the ring and, like a child or a cat,tapped the hands of the men grasping the ropes. Weaving and punching,emitting his cries and shrieks,exchanging insults with his friends in the bleachers, Duran seemed possessed by the wild joy of his own vitality. After nine weeks of training the nearness of the fight seemed to fill him with happiness."
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 07:32:25 PM
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RG just callin' a sharp cat a sharp cat:
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Wow! Matthew is the Big BOSS of fact checking. This dude is one sharp cat. If it exists as hard facts, he is on it. He $hit you not. Every time he posts, you can be certain that he is spot on every time that he spits. D*mn! He is a BAD mutha -- "shut yo mouth -- I'm just talkin' 'bout Shaft [I mean Matthew!] Holla!
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 07:53:27 PM
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dr3r42:
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A lot of people paint themselves in a different picture in their autobiographies. Just like Angelo perpetrated the myth that he wisely opend up the small tear in Ali's glove in the first Cooper fight, which gave Ali a 5-10 minute rest, after he was dropped by Cooper. I've seen the fight on film, the rest between rounds was about 1:05 (unless the tape was edited, which it didn't seem to be). If you listen to the audio of the first Duran fight, you'll here Dundee screaming "he's resting Ray", imploring SRL to force Duran to fight. Leonard also hit duran with some viscious body shots in that first fight, which he had to take risks and punches from Duran in order to land them. Leonard often traded with his opponents and took the fight to them. Look at the Kalule fight (who was the bigger fighter), and against Hearns he had no choice but to bring the fight to him. SRL was a lot like Ray Robinson in that they'd often trade and try to take their opponent's head off when they saw the opportunity. Brad also had some other points.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 09:10:26 PM
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dr3r42:
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Duran definatly had the fire vrs Davey Moore; that one shocked a lot of people at the time. He also fought a great tactical fight against Hagler (dull fight) when he forced Hagler to lead and nearly stole the fight. A lot of people wrote Duran off in 1980, they thought he was done, yet he lasted another 15 years ! Yeah, I'd say that p4p the lightweight Duran was more dominant than the welterweight Leonard, but they're both arguably top 5 ATG p4p fighters. If I wanted to nitpick at Duran as a lightweight, I could always argue about his competition. Buchanan and DeJesus are near greats (DeJesus was stopped by Cervantes) Also, some fans (mostly British) trash Duran for never giving Buchanon a re-match (in some ways I can't blame him, the guy did try to win on a foul). Not saying Duran wouldn't have beaten him, but Buchanon had no idea what he was getting into the first time they fought. Buchanon would have boxed and Duran did have problems with slcik boxers (who doesn't) like the Viruets, Mamby, Leonard II, and Beneitez.
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 09:57:49 PM
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dr3r42:
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Excuse me, Duran actually lasted 21 more years after 1980. But his last hurrah, was probably against Barkley in 1989. Which was still amazing since he was written off as finished in 1980
Thursday Oct 22, 2009 10:27:36 PM
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Matthew@Radam:
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Thanks bro. The beauty of the internet is that you can find anything you need. I just pulled the article up on Sports Illustrated's archives.
Friday Oct 23, 2009 05:00:38 AM
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Matthew@Brad and dr:
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You are 100% correct in that Leonard (like Robinson) had the ability to adapt and fight in different styles. That's just one of many things that made him a great fighter. He didn't exactly box against Benitez either. He took the fight to Kalule because he was a southpaw (much like he did against Tony Chiaverini), and actually did not use his right lead much (as is traditional against a southpaw), but in fact made good use of his hook. Just because Dundee thought Leonard would knock Duran out, it doesn't necessarily mean he wanted him to fight him in a toe-to-toe slugfest. Dundee also said that Leonard would be the puncher in the Hearns fight (which proved to be somewhat true), and yet you can see how Leonard fought the first 5 rounds; moving side to side and boxing. And while it's true that people often paint themselves differently in autobiographies, Dundee's was co-written with Bert Sugar, and I seriously doubt Sugar would allow something to be written that was factually inaccurate. Brad and dr, I respect your knowledge of and love for the sweet science. I have enjoyed swapping facts with you both.
Friday Oct 23, 2009 05:30:12 AM
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brad:
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@Matthew, I enjoy talking with people like you who has insight and knowledge. There's no way to prove it, but I still think the utter destruction of Davey Boy Green helped convince Ray that he could slug it out with Duran and blow him away. I also think that the same thing happened to Tommy Hearns in the Hagler fight. He blew out Duran, something Hagler couldn't do, so Tommy thought he'd kill Hagler. I still think if Tommy sat back and jabbed Hagler, let Hagler come to him (something Hagler didn't like to do-he loved counterpunching) he stood a good chance of winning. But Tommy was so puffed up after destroying Duran, he fought the wrong fight in his next bout with Hagler..Leonard was also puffed up after destroying Green, he fought the wrong fight against Duran... Just a theory.
Friday Oct 23, 2009 06:15:21 AM
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Matthew@Brad:
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Good points about the Hagler-Hearns fight. I wouldn't doubt that Hearns was riding high after blowing out Duran. This probably lead him to predict a 3rd round KO in the pre-fight press tour. According to Manny Steward, Hearns recieved a massage just before the Hagler fight, and it weakened his legs to the point where he couldn't box and move like he wanted. Hearns figured he had no choice but to try and get Hagler out of there early. After Hearns broke his hand late in the first round, Hagler tore him apart. By the way, the left hook that Leonard kayoed Dave Green with was the best single punch of his career.
Friday Oct 23, 2009 07:24:16 AM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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