Cotto has never been an ebullient sort in public, so we can't say if his visage in SF indicates a heaviness. Has he peaked? Did Margarito remove a piece of his puzzle? He tells us he is still top grade. Pacquiao will help us confirm.
Cotto Still Believes In Cotto
By Ron Borges
NEW YORK - It may all be a mirage but for the moment he believes and, in the end, isn’t that what’s most important in boxing?
Faith and fierceness, as much as anything else, is what it takes for a prizefighter to win at the highest levels. Talent, of course, is what’s central to success in boxing but you do not get to fights the size of the one Miguel Cotto will be involved in Nov. 14 in Las Vegas without the talent so that, in this case, is a given.
What is not anymore is whether the Cotto who will square off with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, Manny Pacquiao, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena is the same one who existed before his long, terrible night with Antonio Margarito 14 months ago.
Until that fight, Cotto seemed to be the next great product of the steamy gyms of Puerto Rico, factories that have given boxing some of its greatest and most charismatic practitioners. But that evening was one of the longest of Cotto’s life, a night in which he took a terrible beating before finally taking a knee without being hit again and surrendering in the 11th round.
It was the kind of beating, and the kind of ending, that leave scars. Not just physical ones but also the deeper mental ones that can change a fighter in ways that cannot be fixed.
When he finally returned to the ring against Michael Jennings seven months later Cotto won in five rounds but did not look good. Same was true in his last outing against Joshua Clottey in June. Although he won a split decision, Cotto seemed to fade at the end, fighting back but too often wearing the expression of a man unsure of why he was still doing what he was doing.
Yet Cotto had asked for Clottey, a tough fight, when he could have taken a lesser opponent and then quickly agreed to face Pacquiao despite the pound-for-pound king’s recent track record of wiping out one Goliath after another since moving up from junior lightweight to lightweight to junior welterweight and now to welterweight in a span of a year and a half.
Clearly, Cotto wants to test himself and the reason is simple. Although he has struggled with the fallout from his harsh night with Margarito’s potentially loaded handwraps, he still believes in what is most important in boxing. He still believes in himself.
“I heard Bob Arum saying the guy stopped Oscar De La Hoya, the guy stopped Ricky Hatton. I’m not Oscar De La Hoya. I’m not Ricky Hatton. I’m Miguel Cotto. Everyone knows what Miguel Cotto is capable of doing.’’
What he once was capable of doing was breaking down his opponents with a steadfastness that was akin to waves slamming against a seawall. No single wave destroys that wall but the relentlessness of the sea eventually breaks it down, small crack by small crack until it suddenly collapses. Cotto fought much the same way.
But does he still? The world will find out on Nov. 14 but he, at least, remains the one true believer. He remains sure that he is not what others have whispered he’s become. He is not a shadow. He is not a mirage. He is still Miguel Cotto, which if he is right means he is a formidable challenge for anyone, including Pacquiao.
“I know Manny will be ready,’’ Cotto (34-1, 27 KO) said. “I’ll be ready, too. My mind is my biggest weapon. I’ll be ready for him.
“Fighting Margarito is in my past. What happened that night only he knows, but to me it’s the same as when you catch a batter using screws in his bat. He didn’t use it for the first time (against Shane Mosley). He did it a long time ago.
“But that fight is the past. This fight with Manny is like a new beginning. It will bring good things for my career.’’
Either that or bigger doubts than the ones so many outside Miguel Cotto’s tight circle already carry with them.
Patrick Swayze RIP:
Bottom line, Cotto has too much for Pacquiao. It'll be a great fight, but Manny has never stepped in with a real welterweight. He's about too, and he's biting off more than he can chew. Cotto by mid-round stoppage in a war.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 10:15:32 AM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
I remember that line, Pacquiao is biting more than he can chew. That comment was made when he decided to move up to Lightweight(135) for the very first time. Then we heard it when he faced ODLH, and the recent demolished Hatton. If you ask me sky is the limit for the p4p king Manny Pacquiao who keeps proving time and time again that he can't be denied. But as soon as I heard Cotto started training early and more focus than ever I told myself, maybe Pacquiao is on his last bite. On second thought we are talking about Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao! One greatest fighters of all time! Pacquiao by 7th round knockout!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:17:37 AM
AIB1st:
It'll be a great Fight but Pacman will win for sure. Cotto's style is just like Diaz, he's going to look like a punching bag in that ring. Pacman will come in Straight Punch, Come In and Straight Punch again. pacman is going to repeat the same over and over again until he is caught. pacman is not going to get caught by a counter because he is smart and fast with great timing. i see this fight going to 4th round, cotto is going to be TKO'd.. Trust me guys!! you will see..
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:44:22 AM
Not Really:
What ever happens in the ring but Pac's biting off more than he can chew is a bit of an understatement, he does bite off more than he can chew that's why he gained weight and more power because of that. Best of hope training wouldn't go to waste to the Pac camp and I know they wouldn't.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:51:39 AM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite in San Diego, Cali w/Posse Pac eatin' breakfast after working out:
Manny is a straight-up dime. He is gonna get his shine on and whup Miguel's behind. Without his uncle, Miguel is an eight. He won't do so great. The amateur trainer in his corner is not da man. To get Miguel the win, he'll not come up with a workable plan. For Manny, this bout is gonna to be too easy. Off Miguel, he is gonna knock off da sorcerer Phil "Da Kill" Landman's witchcraft and da greasy. Manny will be too slick, and Team Cotto will not come up with a singe trick. Miguel is in trouble. And trouble comes double. He is going to start hallucinating that he is in the space hubble. But he will be in that squared jungle choking and getting kayoed in round four by a pugilist who is _____ ____! Miguel is right about one thing, though. He is no Ricky Hatton or Big Money Oscar Dela Hoya. He is Miguel Cotto. Another birdbrain fighting at a catchweight. An overtraining-to-get-the-weight-down, easy-to-beat dodo! Holla!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:53:31 AM
mortcola:
PSRIP - Conventional wisdom is, Cotto has too much for Pacquiao. But as I play out and break down the fight in my head, I'm convinced its the other way around. What Pac did to DLH, he can do to Cotto. Although DLH was clearly weak that night, he still could have had no answer to the buzzsaw on a good night. Pac did what Mosley did to DLH, only more so, on a tactical level. Cotto will not be as depleted as DLH was, but he will be easier to hit due to his style, height, and tendency to get on his back foot after being hit. He will not find it easy to land on Pac, and will leave himself open to countershots under and over if he attempts his systematic body attack. Pac is the rare fighter who is not at much of a disadvantage because of the size difference. If you forget about the weight history, this plays out a lot like Pryor-Arguello - except Cotto is not as resilient or as resourceful as the great Flaco Explosiva. A fine fighter - but a very vulnerable one, sad to say, who will not implement his tools better than Pac will implement his own. Pac by 8th round stoppage.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:55:29 AM
mortcola:
Hey Radam - Its a happy day for me when I get to agree with you! If only I had more time to holla back...
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:58:44 AM
Uncle L:
Cotto is going to DESTROY Pac. Period. Mayweather Vs. Cotto
2010.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 11:58:59 AM
lillou:
a lot of people are talking about speed whan it comes to m-pac, but that was said about jab judah, paul milagu and suger shane, and we all know what happened to them. also two of those guys were true welterweights that could hit and take a punch. could m-pac ?
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 12:52:52 PM
Radam G, a mildly humble PacManite at da sec:
Wow! I just saw a Pops Joy May's interview on Youtube. He is out of it. Dude said that PacMan is no doubt on steroids. What a bunch of twaddling smack from the greatest twaddling trainer of all times. Manny is on whoopa whop whup-a$$ with blinding speed and mad power. Pops Joy ought to convince "Lil' Floyd" to sign the contract to fight Pera Pac after "Lil Floyd" wipe up the canvas with the canvas kisser/mop and Pera Pac finishes off Cotto. "Lil Floyd" will surely lose his goose egg. And it won't be because of steroids, it will be because of Pinoy Power and Pinoy Time. Holla!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 12:54:36 PM
Frank Z@ #1 Pacfan:
I don't think the training camp time is too much of an issue. Hatton also trained 12 weeks to manny's 8 weeks and we all saw what happened there. Although one thing i am concerend about for manny is that he's training in the philipines this time, could be much more distracting than Wildcard.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:04:45 PM
Pogidaw:
If Cotto will not be as quick as Manny, he does not have any chance. Remember Sugar Ray vs The Marvelous One. Sugar saw something then, in boxing speed is crucial. Everybody knows who is faster in this fight. I expect the same result, unless Manny is hit with a baseball bat, the outcome could be otherwise. Manny in decision assuming Cotto survives the assault and Manny does not execute what Roach says.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:09:23 PM
ANONYMOUS@RADAM:
radam dude, your tribal indegenous rhymes are killing me....lol
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:13:23 PM
Yuvie:
I want Pac to win this fight but the closer this fight gets, the more I think that Cotto will win this. I think he'll manage to grind Pacquiao down as the fight progresses.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:15:06 PM
perry:
My bold prediction is Pacquiao in E.R.-bound K.O.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:21:50 PM
DAVELB:
Cotto will beat Pac. Sorry for those of you who can't seem to let go of his jockstrap. David Diaz was the weakest link in the lightweight division. Marquez knocked out the two best in that division. DeLahoya was depleated and Hatton has always been over rated. For those who like to call JMM Canvas kisser I ask this. Who went twelve rounds with Pac twice and in most fans and professional eyes beat him? Just watch the fights again as I have in prep for this weekends showdown with Gayweather. You will see the battered face of Pac at the end of both fights. Many true champions have been down only to come back and win fights. Those TRUE champions always went after or accepted challenges from other top fighters. Not David Diaz or an over the hill DeLahoya or even the overrated Britiot Hatton. Marquez will shock the boxing world this weekend. There's a reason Roach doesn't want his cash cow to have anything to do with Marquez. It's called fear.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:50:12 PM
dp69 eating subway:
i agree with Uncle L....nuff said...holla back!!!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:52:12 PM
Borat :
ONE POUND!!!!
Cotto weighed 146 on weigh-in day against Clottey. He said to make 145 is not a big deal. All he had to do is do an extra 20 minutes in exercise, calisthenics, etc....
Team Pacquiao should have pressed for a catch weight of 144 which is consistent with JMM vs Gayweather.
One pound can make or break you. That extra pound can be the difference come fight night. (see Corrales vs Castillo part 2)
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:57:29 PM
Matthew:
I'm really going back and forth on the winner of this fight. I think it really depends on how much Cotto has left. He did not look great against Clottey, but he had enough heart to gut it out with a terrible cut (for the record, I had Clottey winning by a narrow margin). If he's close to what he was, he can win. But Pacquiao seems to be getting better with every fight. Cotto is definitely the strongest fighter and hardest puncher Manny has ever faced, but Pacquiao's speed and skills could offset that. If Pacquiao can back him up, he wins. Right now I'm going with Manny by decision, but I really think it could go either way.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 01:59:46 PM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite - Congressman Joe Wilson ought 2 shut up - "You lie!":
Proper behavior and decorum and civility, he should learn. Miguel and Manny are two of the best gentlemen in the game before the ringing of that bell then comes da HELL! A straight-up war for a round the Cotto-Paquiao bout will be, And then one fighter will get his dance on you'll see. And it will be good until round three. In round four, it will be no more! From the Manny beatdown, Miguel is going to be too sore. And the referee is going to know it, and the show! AND da neeeewwww WBO and WBC Diamond Belt champeeoooon of da worrrlllldddd, Mannyyyyyy PACMAN Pacquiaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooo! Holla!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 02:51:32 PM
Frank Z:
i think kieran mulvaney was right when he said that cotto has a little bit of no mas in him, in that you can get him to the point where he'll start dreading faceoffs with the opponent. that is not to say he's not a brave guy in the ring or lacks heart, just that we've seen his limits psychologically, against both clottey and margarito, main difference (aside from the wraps) was clottey couldn't cut the ring off and make cotto fight when he didn't want to. how will he react to pacquiao if pac unloads 5-6 punch combos at the blink of an eye and then slides out of punching angle and does it again? i am seriously curious to find out. cotto is one of my favorite boxers casue of the way he steps into a hard jab and turns into those hard hooks to the body and head, a good way to break down just about any opponent, but he seems to be kind of bad on defense, good head movement, but doens't know how to use the ring, or good ways to tie up an opponent and fight at 6 inch range without the ref breaking him up.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:00:17 PM
Patrick Swayze RIP:
I'm a fan of both Pacquiao and Cotto. That said, this is the first time that PacMan is going up in weight to fight a legitimate beast. Hatton was a good 140 pounder, but no beast. JMM is an excellent fighter too, but MP wasn't taking as large a leap (130, 135). At 145, against Cotto, a LEGITIMATE banging welterweight, this is his tallest order yet. Cotto has been in with a plaster-wielding Margarito, Sugar Shane, Clottey, and others. In Economics, there's something called the Law of Diminishing Returns. You can apply that principle here. I'm looking forward to this and will be the first to give MAJOR props to Pacquiao if he wins, but I just don't see it. In fact, I give him major props for even fighting Cotto (remember before SSM dismantled Margarito, the consensus was that PacMan would never fight AM due to the size discrepancy?). I'm a fan of both, but my $ is on Cotto here.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:12:50 PM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
Couldn't agree with you more Frank Z. Cotto's defense will be a big factor in his gameplan. I seriously think he won't have an answer for that straight left hand.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:13:43 PM
the Roast:
Cotto will be a bloody mess by the tenth. That cut from the Clottey fight will re-open early and the doctor will stop the fight between rounds.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:18:47 PM
chinelas:
@davelb- For those who like to call JMM Canvas kisser I ask this. Who went twelve rounds with Pac twice and in most fans and professional eyes beat him? - are you serious? manny beaten by JMM? cmon you must have been watching another fight....another case of "can't get over the humps" syndrome... :)
btw, you said fear? Pacman afraid of JMM? tsk tsk..i dont know what your drinking man.., but i would stay away from that as early as now...
peace out...
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:18:52 PM
brownsugar:
this fight will show just how good Manny is,... or isn't,.. Cotto has survived good quick boxers like Mosely,.. Clottey,.. Judah,.. and Quintana,..he's going to be more hungrey and confident against Pacman than a 20 year convict eyeballing first time inmates,... problem is,.. Pacman is a slightly better boxer,.. and packs dynamite in both hands,.. but so does Cotto,.. if Cotto backs Manny into a corner like he did Clottey for a full round,.. Pacman wont survive,.. an extremely dangerous fight for both men,.. way too early for me to call a winner,.. but I think Cotto is getting prepared early,.. he'll even find a way to overcome the handicapping weight if he's disciplined enough,.. at a full 147 Cotto wins hands down,.. at 145,.. well,.. who can call it???
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:22:34 PM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite:
Let's keep showing respect, decorum and maximun civility. The boxer's name is Mayweather, not Gayweather! We all have gays in our families, some of us are in self-denial, though. You are disrespecting them and reality by your behavior toward a fine boxer. Please respect the man's profession. There are a lot of boxing gays, but Floyd is not one of them. And gays are God's children too. And you know what God Says, "Judge not, so you won't be judged." Holla!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:26:14 PM
Anony:
Here we go again talking about the fight 2 months before it comes. Oh well, we are part of the "hyping it up" machine; some of us just don't realize it. Anyways... Pacquiao did win Díaz, DLH and Hatton but what "lillou" is saying is true. What about the speed of Paulie, Judah and Mosley? Is Pacman faster than them and/or hit harder than Mosley, or Margacheato or any other heavy handed NATURAL light or welterweight Cotto faced in the past? See... every article you read say Pacman is counting on his speed to defeat Cotto" but I guess Pacquiao is not faster than Zab or Mosley. The problem is that Pacquiao is the only one stepping on the ring november 14th; not all you making his case here. Pacquiao is a tough opponent for Cotto; no doubt about it, but people here need to realize this is his biggest challenge IN HIS LIFE. So don't treat our superstar like this is just another fight for Pacquiao or WILDLY WISHING that Pacquiao will KO Cotto. That's a really big assumption. And I know Pinoy's here are as proud as us Boricuas but.... somebody needs to loose. It won't be Cotto. For the record, much respect to Pacquiao and all Pinoys here. Last time I heard the madman talking, he said really bad things about me. All of them lies that I don't care to respond but he called me a racist and that's something I can't allow. I didn't respond at the time because EM asked for peace but I have to set the record straight cause I'm proud (as every Pinoy) of being an islander and proud of our boxers, professional workforce or simple labor workers that HONORS the rest of the world when we step in another land. I even have family in Guam, Dominican Republic, USA, Germany, Hawaii... so there is no ground to tell such a lie on me. Record's straight now.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 03:45:16 PM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
Can you believe Floyd "The Nutcase" Mayweather Sr. just accused Manny of using steriods? What a bum! He must be back on that crack! Now the man is trying to take away his glorified career from him! Someone outa take this old man to a mental hospital cause he's not in the right state of mind. I remember a TSS Reader also accused Manny of taking steriods. I'm telling you these haters all think the same! Don't hate! Congratulate! You know what I"m sayin'?
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 04:00:44 PM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite:
Keep your shirt on, #1 PacFan. Pops Joy May is just talking smack. That's how it is in this game. Back da day, during the Sugar Ray Leonard - Tommy Hearns throwdowns, Tommy and Manny was saying that Rays was using steroids. Talking and rumoring spreading is never going away from the game. All this is psychological warfare. This is what PJM is doing. He laughs his a$$ off when the naive believes him. If Manny were on steroids, the world would know. Manny is just on that good Filipino food. Holla!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 04:19:16 PM
marc:
100% Manny will win...I agree that cotto style is like diaz style...he is too slow for manny....how about his chin? I'd done watching cotto's fights...he has a weak chin like hatton...the only thing im worried is his dirty tactics...when his opponent on momentum, he immediately threw low blows...one time I saw him lifting his German opponent like Big Show lifting PBF..
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 04:21:33 PM
FightFanWest:
Comparing David Diaz to Miguel Cotto is like comparing Cliff Couser to Mike Tyson. There is no comparison. Cotto by KO inside of 8 rounds. I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar beatdown to the one Miguel gave Alfonso Gomez.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 05:02:07 PM
Oddsmaker:
as Pacman himself says Cotto is bigger and stronger than me ,
but ain't no big deal for Pacman and Freddie Roach , They got the strategy Pacman will display not his Hand Speed but his Foot Speed . Cotto will have trouble finding this moving target , also Pacman and Roach is working on Pacmans new arsenal called the Upper Cut which will land frequently on Cotto's chin
and thoughts of his night with Margacheato will occur , Money on Pacman TKO 7 rounds.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 05:16:16 PM
zakilouise:
Why do most writers suggest that Cotto is already damaged goods? On the contrary, he demolished jennings and cotto looked good. The only reason cotto didn't look so good in the clottey fight was bcoz he got cut in the 3rd rnd. But he still won against an excellent welterweight.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 05:41:15 PM
Smiley C:
I will take the Pacman by knockout fo' sure!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 05:43:13 PM
BOY2:
PACMAN WILL WIN THIS FIGHT. COTTO IS A GREAT DEFENDER BUT PACMAN IS THE BEST BULLDOZER....
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 05:55:06 PM
Fe'Roz :
I see Manny shocking the world and stopping Cotto Cold earlier than Margarito. Without any asterisks. But it won't be easy. A strong Cotto is always a dangerous man.... at least, that is, until he begins to gas. Miquel is capable of inflicting damage on most men smaller and most his own size. A frustrated Cotto is equally dangerous. .... ready to throw any opponent on his ass. In the end, I still think this comes down whether or not Manny can take Miquel's punch. If he can and does, Miquel will fall early. Manny's confidence will rise....and his attack will be vicious. He has better head and foot movement so he will be tough for MC to find. He has hand speed that shocked even JMM; hand speed that can blind. He is, to this observer, the most dynamic and exciting fighter alive. Bar none. A victory over Cotto only seals the pace in history already reserved.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:11:40 PM
Bill:
So what if Cotto is training 1 month ahead. In New York last week Cotto was still heavier then pac. He weighed 157lb to pac's 155lbs. He will have to train a lot harder then pac to get down to 145lbs. Still with all that training he wont be able to match Pac's speed. Funny you say pac doesnt have power!! Hatton was unconcious before he hit the canvas! Little power does that? And funny that you mention he doesnt fight welterweights. He trains with welterweights in sparring sessions & some are even World Champions. I guess you would still doubt him if he beats Cotto BADLY!!! You'll say Cotto overtrained or Cotto is not the same fighter. But the facts are Pac in the last 10yrs has lost only once to Morales which he revenged with 2 KO's. Has beaten 4 champions with 3 or more division titles. How many Multiple 3 or more division title holders has Cotto beaten? I can only name 1(Mosley). The fact of the matter is that Cotto is going against a legend 6 division title holder that can KO you unconcious and has the fastest hands in boxing & P4PKing since 2007 and P4P top 10 for 300weeks the longest anyone has ever been. And you people still doubt this Greatest Asian Fighter Ever!!! Cotto is an underdog for a reason. Pac is the complete fighter that has only gotten better in the last 3 fights. David Diaz was no weak link. He had only lost 1 prior to fighting Pac & beat Morales. He was still young. (hmmm Cotto lost 1 only too) Pac will dictate this fight because of his hand speed. If Cotto goes after Pac. Pac has been an excellent counter puncher lately and floor Cotto. Pac will win either way if he goes after you or you go after him. Cotto has no advantage here. Pac has not been KO'ed for 10yrs since he was a teen. Cotto on the other hand quit and publicly said he will quit and retire early. Pac has shown NO FEAR in any of his fights while Cotto kneeled down and QUIT. Cotto has been known to be a QUITTER. Pac will make him QUIT in the 9th round mark my words. COTTO has no CHANCE he will be like David Diaz SLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:21:17 PM
PUCHMAN:
miguel cotto will claim his spot on nov/14/09 as the real pound 4 pound king,pacquioa reing is done come that date.cotto is going to beat fire outta his face l.o.l mark my word!!!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:24:19 PM
MisterLee:
Manny is too fast for anyone over 130lbs! Enough said! :) Holler!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:28:47 PM
Sid:
Brown Sugar Cotto is Left hand dominant so he doesnt pack devastating power in both hand as does PAC. Pac destroy's I repeat DESTROYS left hand dominant fighters by circling to their right to nullify their powerful left. To make it worse Cotto is a LOT SLOWER. So pac will dictate the fight easily. Another thing Pac's laterall movement is underestimated. He goes side to side then hits you with a hard body punch or straight to the face as he moves away! How can Cotto counter that!! If they go toe to toe Pac will win too because he will throw 3 hard punch's to 1 Cotto's punch. The only way to beat him is what Marquez did and counter punch him. But Pac has solved that problem just watch the Diaz & De Lahoya fight in which he employed the darting in & out tactic & wear his opponent down. And when his opponent shows any sign of slowing down he throws 3 or 4 combo's relentlessly while circling to their right!! Cotto will wear out especially if he weighs around 160lbs. Cotto is not that accurate like Marquez or a great counterpuncher either!! Those are the criteria's to beat Pac. Precision punching, throw 3 or 4 combo's & excellent counterpunching. None of which Cotto is excellent at!! You cant be very good at these things you've got to be EXCELLENT!! Very few if only 1 person posses these skills!!!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:40:35 PM
Crazy:
With Pacs speed he will cut Cotto's face up pretty bad. Cotto not being able to see well will definitely open him up. Cause once pac see's an opening the punch will be there in a split second followed by 3 more in a span of 1 sec. The referee will stop this fight and when Cotto gets interviewed he will say the same thing Diavid Diaz & Dela Hoya said that pac's punch's come from different angles and its too hard to defend if you cant see the punch comin & those are also the most dangerous!!!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:48:24 PM
Bad:
What does Cotto have that pac hasn't faced already? Power give me a break pac has been hit by welterweights & superwelterweights in full contact in sparring. Body Shots well he lets his sparring partners hit him in the body as hard as they can. If thats all Cotto's weapons are he will get overwhelmed by what Pac's weapons are: Blinding speed, power, stamina, accuracy punching, lateral movement, defense. With Cotto's advantages can easily be countered by Pac's defense. Cotto will not hit Pac very often or enough. Pac has an iron chin himself so its not gonna take one punch to KO him and if hurt he has the smarts to move laterally to avoid the punches and recovers very quickly!! As I see Cotto's weaknesses is he not accurate with his punchs misses 70% or more and seems to fade in the later rounds. If he doesnt keep up with the volume of punches that pac throws he will also loss in a decision!!!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 06:59:13 PM
oskar:
Floyd Sr's claim of Pac on roid is uncalled for, being one of the personalities in boxing accusing someone without a basis is plain hate and only haters will back it up. I'm sure if Pac get pass Cotto, team Pac will make sure that team Mayweather will pay dreadfully inside the ring.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 07:06:18 PM
oskar:
If Cotto’s defense improves to a level that Pac’s straight left can’t connect cleanly it will be a tossup but if not, I do see W for team Pac even a K.O. wouldn’t be impossible.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 07:12:14 PM
Respect to Manny, he's proven me wrong in style twice now (DLH and Ricky). So being the true gentleman that I am, I'm going to give him a chance to do it again, and shut my fat mouth for good. Cotto will weather Manny's onslaught, and rise to the top of the welterweight tree once again, with a mid-round stoppage of the incredible, but out powered Manny (deja vu all over again, and Manny will probably KO Miguel in four rounds). COTTO BY KO. Toonoy
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 08:05:20 PM
bob :
cotto did not knock mallanagi. hatton knock manallagi. pacquiao will smile to cotto s punch just like clootty smiles to cotto but pac will ko cotto.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 08:20:06 PM
nixter:
ill bookmark this page, come nov 14 ill visit this page again, and tell me straight to my face that PACQUIAO is the best of the best, pound for pound king..... the PACIFIC STORM will KO COTTON in 5th round, mark my word, 5th round......
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 08:47:43 PM
avidboxingfan:
you saw something different and coach roach saw it correctly. miguel does solve judah, mosley and pauli of their hand speed. what u did not saw is pacman's footspeed and his stance. judah is a southpaw like pacman but of all the elite southpaw fighter, judah's footspeed is the weakest. judah doesn't have a side to side positioning that pacman posseses. as for the power! pacman can't be underestimated because his positioning (leaning his body towards his throwing hand) will give him more impact (just like throwing his punch with his body). i'm talking the punch he unleased in hatton fight. if he can time miguel with that punch, i'm sure the game is over. though that's a big question mark, but who knows!
everyone acknowledges that miguel is the bigger and stronger fighter. being that, miguel can win by KO! but again, this is a big question mark, if he can hit pacman!
in my view, the only thing that miguel can win is to KO pacman. if he can't, he will be in a long losing night.
in the end, it will go down to whose strategy will work out. is miguel can impose his size and strenght? is pacman can slick, use his footspeed and his power shot?
let's find out on November 14! with these two combatants, a lot of intrigueng issues will be sovled.
let's get readyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to rumbleeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 08:48:30 PM
GEORGE:
There's no way Cotto can win this fight by dicision, he must kill Manny in round one to ten because if not, I'm sure he will take a knee once again when Manny start his bombardments in 11th round. Manny is a 20 rounder, the 11th round is just the start of a very hard rounds and Cotto usually fades when the fight goes the distance. That's why Coach Freddie Roach didn't count for a KO victory here. Coach Freddie will be once again prove to the world that his prediction always comes short. He predicted Manny will KO Oscar in 9th round but the fight ended just after the 8th, he predicted Hatton can't make in 3 rounds and Manny finished that off in a minute left of round 2. This time around, Manny will go for a KO in 11th and 12th rounds because this is what the boxing beauty known for. He always wants to finish the fight in a very exciting way because he plays not just a boxer but also an entertainer. Indeed, a true boxing legend.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 08:48:56 PM
Fe'Roz :
I want to say for the record that when we are blessed with a fight of this quality between two world class athletes, we should all be an remain respectful. Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao are both tributes to their countries, their families, their fans..... and this sport. They are true gentlemen. It is a privilege to be able to watch and enjoy seeing two true warriors at work. In a very dangerous game, these two have maintained civility, dignity and aplomb. Always. Regardless of who wins in the ring, the least we should and must expect of ourselves is the same. Respect.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 09:05:51 PM
isaiah:
Wow. I didn't know they still made Gerry Cooney juice. Cotto by stoppage. No round to predict just a simple beatdown.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 09:18:12 PM
Edgar:
This kinda fight is one I wish Miguel would see as what it really is. Boxing is money and I know that if he is smart enough, Miguel will see what is happening. So what is it that's happening you may be asking? It's simple Bob Arum makes the money and he thinks like most obvious observers think (that Cotto is not the same) It stinks because if Manny wins ( which may very well be true and even by another blow out) it's just going to raise him higher to a bigger fight against Mayweather. That's Ideally whats mostly everyone wants (hell even if its close the node will still go to Manny and discreetly unlike Golden boys last foul up top rank has been around much longer and the score will stay close) But that's what I want him to see, I want him to see that his promoter has money on the other guy, he had money on the other guy( Margarito ) the last time and doesn't mind putting you in harms way because he thinks your finished. So my advice to Cotto is fight like you did against Shane, fight like you did against Margarito. Hell fight harder, fight stronger, fight longer, shock them all and do what everyone is telling you is impossible WIN!
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 09:37:16 PM
Isaiah:
Both fighters are great and I can't disrespect either one. This will be a great win for Miguel Cotto when he shows once again he is capable of overcoming anyone in that ring. Cotto will beat Pacquiao in that ring, beat Mosley again and this time for the Ring Magazine championship and get his rematch with Antonio (CHECK HIS GLOVES!) Margarito.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 09:55:30 PM
Isaiah:
I forgot to say, Cotto will punish Margarito by not taking to many stupid chances and outboxing Margacheato to a smooth UD. Mark my words. Cotto IS a future hall of famer and rightfully so. Pacquiao, Mayweather, Mosley 2, bring em on. All will fall.
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 10:00:16 PM
avidboxingfan:
in a game of boxing (specially for the elite fighters), there is no sure winner. in this fight, the only thing that we are certain is, we can witness a great fight from the two great combatants that care less for themselves but for their people and fans. let's get readyyyyyyyyyy to rumbleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 10:16:05 PM
Isaiah:
I like the quote, "Judge not lest ye be judged." Here's another one I like. " The only thing evil needs to triumph is for good men to stand down and do nothing." Homosexuality is an adbomination unto the Creator and only until modern times has it been embraced. The ruin of Sodom and Gamora and Rome were in large part to sexual immorality. This still stands true to America and the rest of the world today. I will not embrace what I know in me is not right. It's in all of us to know the difference between right and wrong and if this paragraph gets me booted off of here and anyone thinks twice about what I'm saying, then it'll be well worth it. The true denial is increasing tolerance for something that shouldn't be tolerated and to those who compare this to civil rights or women struggles, you know that's bull. All people treated equally is not the same as forcing the moral corruption of being gay tolerance on society. Once upon a time, our ancestors would have never accepted such insanity as what modern society has done to themselves. Don't judge, but also don't embrace evil, sexual perversion, also a huge example is Catholic priests not being allowed to date women and messing wiht children! I don't care if these statements make me unpopular or boot me off the site I love. I had to say my piece. Anyway, I'm done. I promise, I'll stick with talking boxing now.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 12:02:32 AM
MisterLee:
@ Isaiah, boxing talk is good. You make good points. The sex talk is full of crap. Did it ever occur to you that homosexuals have feelings too, and that whatever they do has absolutely nothing to do with you and your religion and the "backbone of society". I'm tired of pple moralizing what pple do in the privacy of their own homes. This comes down to a few myths: by being exposed to homosexuals or having your kids exposed you will somehow become "gay" by exposure. or that homosexuality will ruin the backbone of society (it's been around since ancient times as you've mentioned. how come the whole world has not become gay or degenerate. I feel murder and the disenfranchisement of the masses are far worse crimes than having sex with the same gender. In addition, the whole religious talk hides the fact that pple continue to use religion as an excuse to air out their own uncomfortable feelings of their own sexual feelings and the actions of others. As far as I'm concerned, R. Kelley can continue peeing on women as long as they're not minors and it's in the privacy of their own homes, and as long as it's not directly harming us. Isaiah, you do not deserve to be booted off, b/c it's your opinion, but i do not like how you make this forum hostile for readers who do not fall in the mainstream, whether they be LGBTA, lesbian, gay, bi sexual, transgender, or ally. Acceptance and tolerance are deeper currents in any religion than any nitpicking and individual passages. Does eye for an eye count? If the bible says love thy neighbor (only if they're heterosexual and have children) or do we find the ancient lore of old stereotypes that may have been misinterpretations or prevailing passages of old stereotypes and discrimination. we do need to mindlessly follow passages that reinforce our own prejudices in order to further our feelings of self-righteousness. Okay, that's my schpeel, pple can express themselves, so can I. Cheers. And in case anyone is wondering, like the homophobe with two gay friends (aka- i have a black friend!) deep water, I am an ally, so don't start the inquisition, and please deal with your own issues before you threaten the emotional and spiritual safety of those who visit the TSS and those who are immediately around you, Thank you. Pc out! Tss rules! Holler at the XX's! :)...
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 01:27:33 AM
MisterLee doubles jab:
we do NOT need to mindlessly follow passages that reinforce our own prejudices in order to further our feelings of self-righteousness
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 01:29:46 AM
MisterLee:
Cotto has never rematched an opponent, especially a tough opponent. Mosley has been talking about a rematch since 2006 or so. He'll never fight judah again, nor clottey, nor pacquiao nor margarito. Management wants to keep him fresh and use his PR influence while keeping him from wear and tear. If that's not the case, have him take on winner of mosley clottey. quintana and gomez are the only welters not worth a rematch, i bet he'd even avoid ricardo torrest at welter. I'm not saying hes a ducker, but as mosley said, old time fighters always fought more than once to determine the better man (didnt' sugar ray robinson fight marciano or some fighter 7 times?). pacquiao fought morales 3 times, barrera twice, marquez twice, all three hypothetically his best opponents to date. Cotto's tough fights he would slide thru victory and never look back. Floyd does the same thing too, no rematches. And Gatti? Gatti Ward 1 2 & 3, marquez vasquez 1 2 & 3. just makin a point. watch for manny's dragon punch. he'll yell shour you ken! he'll get Bald Bull like he were piston honda or van heiser. Holler at xx chromo! Tss rules pc! :)
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 01:35:34 AM
Red Dog:
We will be witnessing HISTORY IN THE MAKING! I truly feel welterweight is not Manny pacquiao's last stop in the scales. I think he will also fight in the Junior Middleweight division and then retires.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 02:49:43 AM
Isaiah:
I'm a man of my word MisterLee, on to the boxing talk. As I pointed out in a previous article or two, Floyd Mayweather has only had one rematch and that was against Castillo. I believe Floyd ducked the Oscar De La Hoya rematch because Oscar was capable of hurting him. To be fair, a rematch between Cotto and Mosley should happen sometime next year. I'm a Cotto fan, but I have to call him on this. If Cotto loses to Pacquiao though, a Mosley/Cotto rematch will be much less appealing and probaly not for the Ring Magazine title. Not to mention, Mosley has to get by Clottey first and that's a big if. I'd also like to say I could do without a Cotto/Clottey rematch, but a Cotto/Margartio rematch would be spectacular. By the way, the Sugar Ray Robinson fights your're thinking of are probaly the 6 fights he had with Jake Lamotta where Lamotta only beat him once in all those times, but that just happened to be Robinson's first loss. I guess Robinson really wanted to punish Lamotta for that, ha! By the way, I like the Mike Tyson punchout references, keep up the good work.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 04:04:45 AM
Isaiah:
One more thing I forgot. You're off on the year of how long Mosley's been asking for a Cotto rematch. Their first fight wasn't until 2007, so he couldn't have been talking about it in 2006.. Trivial I know, but it'd bug me if I didn't bring that up.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 04:14:40 AM
Smiley C:
Gene Fulmer fought Sugar Ray Robinson four times and beat him twice, fought him to draw and lost to him once fo' sure!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 05:55:20 AM
donputo69 11-3 this year. 130-10 overall in my career:
i was talking to collazo last night and he told me that most likely he will face zab judah in the future....he never told me when though....i see berto is running away from my boy lou....anyway....cotto will ko pacpac in 9.....holla back!!!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 08:04:42 AM
EM:
Isaiah, I diagree vehemently with your anti gay stance. It amounts to bigotry to me, but since certain religous sects are aligned with you, your viewpoint has some mainstream acceptance. People are born gay, like they are born white, or black, or with blond hair, or like me, no hair! (OK, I was born with plenty, but my genes saw to it that I lost it!) They don't choose to be "perverted." Just as you didn't choose to be white or black or whatever you are. What if your offspring came to you and said, "I'm gay." You would react with the same disgust. Then I say shame on you, your loss. This anti gay "religous" conviction is to me bigotry and we shouldn't tolerate. MLee stated his case betetr than I did, and you guys both kept it respectful, which is cool. Thanks.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 08:42:59 AM
dp69 can we all just get along:
sup with this gay thing...this is boxing....this is the U...TSS U....we talk BOXING IN THIS SITE....not who is gay and bla bla bla...cut the bull$#1t....lets all get along and enjoy what we do best....TRASH TALK...holla back!!!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 09:06:18 AM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
It makes me laugh when some people compare Cotto with Diaz or Pacquiao with Judah. All totally different fighters guys. Cotto is a lot more fundamentally sound, better boxer, better defense, and is the more powerful puncher. The only similarities they have is that they are both tough as nails(durable). Pacquiao compared to Judah is way off. Pacquiao is in a league of his own, with improved defense, better footwork, headmovement, heavier handed, smarter, tough as nails, in other words he's a complete fighter. The similarities they have is prolly their handspeed. I don't see Cotto being able to take a knee in this fight. Pacquiao by KO in 7!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 09:20:15 AM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":
I see poor Cotto bloodied and brused by the 7th round.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 09:22:08 AM
donputo69 doing 847 situps:
yo pacfan?....are you sure about that?....or you just saying that to feel good about your self?....lol...cotto its gonna destroy pacpac....I GUARANTEE U THAT....lol....BTW....whos the m0r0n comparing cotto to diaz?....thats like comparing scareweather to bugs bunny....i can beat diaz with my eyes closed....thats how slow he is...i dont have much to say now...so i'll holla when i get a chance....holla back!!!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 10:03:47 AM
#1 PacFan SAY NOT TO 9-19-09 JMM-PBF!!!!:
@Don, both really...enough of that, about the Mayweathers accussing Manny Pacquiao for taking steriods is absurd!! It's totally below the belt! It's obviously jealousy and envy coming from Pac's enemies(2Pac's lyric). They know that Manny is making history as of now so their trying everything the can to belittle that. Pacquiao is a fighter we often see every 50 years. He is just that great you see. Now I've said that I was going to watch JMM-PBF matchup this weekend to support boxing but I change my mind. I am going to watch the UFC event instead, I want to put a dent on their fight. I'm making a rally right now to say "NO TO 9-19-09 JMM-PBF! It's the devils work I tell you, just simply turn the date upside down and you'll see!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 11:17:13 AM
dp69 SAY NO TO 9-19-09:
im down with that #1Pacfan.....holla back!!!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 11:53:43 AM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite:
Wow! Of course da Don is right! This is the best boxing site. And boxing has been the leader in accepting reality and actuality. The reality is that anatomical birth does not determines sex behavior. Maybe biological birth does not either. A South African female won several events in the World's Track and Field last month. But because she has XY chromosomes -- usually an anatomical male -- haters are saying that she should be disqualified because she is a man in a woman's body. Did God Make A Mistake about her? NOT! Wow! Bigots cannot have it both ways. And I will talk about boxing, since this is what this site is about. One of the greatest boxers of all times has XX( and a very weakened Y) chromosomes make up. This cat is a five-times world champion. Should he beat taken out of the HOF because his biological make up is XX -- usually an anatomical female. DId God make a mistake about him? Not! God Doesn't Make Mistakes or tell fibs, humans do. The English-speaking king who ordered that versions of the Bible be translated into English was a proud practicing, admitted-to-it homosexual. This guy name is King James. The Bible is full of stories about eunuchs -- called gays nowadays -- doing "God work" and being the apple of many prophets' eyes. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of disobedience, not for abomination. The people didn't leave the cities when told to, and the eruptions of volcanoes rained fire and brimstone on them. Spin masters and talebearers get rich weaving malicious gossip. Somebody ought to read the Bible for himself. Holla!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 12:20:32 PM
FightFanWest:
I love women too much! But that said, I don't fault people for being gay. I believe one is born that way. Otherwise, why would someone CHOOSE that?? In any event, my stance is this: Let what people do in their own bedrooms stay there.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 02:13:07 PM
RED:
This will be a very difficult fight for Cotto. He'll be facing a faster, heavy hitting opponent. There's only one way he can win this fight; throwing and throwing and throwing punches. Marquez gave Manny fits late in their fight. If Miguel can take Manny's barrage early and if he can get get some of his own bombs in by putting a good punch number out, it should be a competitive fight.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 02:22:50 PM
enrique:
Some of the posters on here are delusional if you think that Pac is just going to walk in the ring and knock Cotto out in 4 rounds. Cotto is not that type of washed up fighter. Pac is not fighting a weight drained DLH, or a shot Ricky Hatton, or no talnet, no power, having a$$ Diaz. Will Cotto win? I dont know I dont think its a forgone conclusion that either guy wins it. Its def a pick em fight. Peopel are reading too much into Cottos last 3 fights. If in fact Cotto is damaged goods we will see , pac wil expose that if its the case. However, if the cotto that demolished quintana, zab judah, and outt boxed mosley, as well as Margarito for the first 6 rounds shows up, Pac is going down.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 02:40:48 PM
Anony:
Again.... who will answer my question? Is Pacman faster than Zab or Mosley? does he hot harder than Mosley, Margarito or Randall Bailey? Come on guys.. use common sense. I won't discard Pacquiao winning the fight because he is truly the P4P king but... I don't know about those "Pacquiao in 7th round KO" comments.... Ready to eat crow people?
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 03:34:53 PM
#1 PacFan SAY NOT TO 9-19-09 JMM-PBF!!!!:
@Anony, Pac is faster than Zab or Mosley, according to Hollaway Pac hits harder that Marg so there you go. Pac by KO in 7. Say no to 9-19-09 JMM-PBF!!!
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 03:47:28 PM
DAVELB:
@chinelas. So why didn't roach and his cash cow clean up the lightweight division like JMM did. David Diaz was a bum. Even Fraidy Roach admitted they went after the easiest belt. No sauce in the morning for me just a big fan of Boxing. I don't see Pac getting past Cotto in Nov. That's when we'll hear the deafening boom from millions of band wagon fans letting go of Manny's jock strap at the same time. Stand back Fraidy Roach it may bust your eardrums.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 05:01:19 PM
MisterLee @ Isaiah:
Thanks for keeping it kosher. You're right, i forgot about castillo 2 which was a risk for floyd. Yep, cotto mosley 2 would be a seller to me, whether or not cotto wins the next fight. Cotto still has a following, still can bang, and if his management allows him in the likelihood of a pacquiao loss, hope they'll fight. Maybe cotto has to rematch margarito not to give marg a free handout back to superstardom, but to convince himself he's still the best and can bang with the best. I wouldn't mind seeing cotto clottey, but clottey needs to get a strap first, then it might happen. I have a feeling mosley will tango with someone big next year, after he gets past clottey/berto in janurary, i see him eyeing the winner of the may/pac fight, and/or seeking revenge for cotto. either way, it should be an interesting year. @ EM, thanks a lot for keeping this forum civil. One of the reasons I left fighthype was b/c of the non-stop unmonitored name calling and the distasteful comments. This place is still my favorite place to surf everyday. Thanks! :) Tss rules! :)
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 05:55:18 PM
Fe'Roz :
Miquel should read Oscar's interview on Yahoo Sports from a few hours ago. He said manny never really hurt him with power.....but that he was so fast he thought there were 10 of him. That when he was reacting to punches from one direction he was getting hit from another. So, assuming Oscar is describing Manny accurately, first you count sheep.... as many as Ten....and then he puts you to sleep. Sounds more like a nightmare than a lullaby.
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 08:27:15 PM
MisterLee @ Fe'Roz...:
You know there was an article in Fighthype before May 2nd, in which it described the "Manny Complex", in which fighters who have fought Manny have said certain things before and after the fight, and have consistently done so: Hatton and De La Hoya tried to highlight their own speed (and power) before the Pacquiao fight. Also, all of them, erik morales, barrera, diaz and the two fighters above talked of how they "trained hard in training camp and will be ready for anything", and all five of them if not not more ended up saying that "Pacquiao doesn't hit that hard".... morales blamed it on his fatigue and his "many wars" (part 2, part 3 he got spanked, Manny: "He felt my power"), Diaz said manny doesn't hit hard, so did Oscar. It's a pattern, and it's hard to take them seriously when all of them were knocked out. It's maybe how they can convince themselves that he beat them and still retain some manhood. The fighthype article was about whether Hatton was falling into the "same trap" prior to the pacqiuao fight, which he did. And I forget who said that Hatton was "shot" before he fought Pacquiao. That's insane, b/c he was still a reigning Jr. Welter Champion with like two or three belts, he had won every fight since the Mayweather fight, and he had just come off of a Malignaggi domination in which he out jabbed Malignaggi and outboxed him and revived his career. So with that, tho Cotto is shot, he's not that shot, so please don't give excuses when Pacquiao knocks him out in 8, Roach says within 10 (which makes sense, since Cotto might need some wearing down, since like Jermaine Taylor, Cotto starts to fade around round 7, where JT does at round 6.). Pc out!
Thursday Sep 17, 2009 05:42:11 AM
MisterLee watching Cotto-Gomez:
After watching Gatti Gomez (sad fight), i thought i'd watch Cotto take Gomez apart. This is why I really liked Cotto back then: 1.) he became more patient, less of a brawling style, more tactical 2.) He really utilized a good powerful pumping jab 3.) He's well rounded with improved defense 4.) he wears his opponents down with his left hook to the ribs 5.) He has heart (torres fight) HOWEVER, since then this is why i DISLIKE him now: 1.) He runs out of steam after round 7 and runs the rest of the fight 2.) I thought the Judah fight was an anomole (he threw about 5 lowblows on Judah, esp. in key moments in the fight). He body slammed Clottey in their fight, and did a combination rabbit punch and low blow in the last minute of the 12th round in order to buy himself more time 3.) He left MSG knowing he got beat up and outboxed 4.) I liked Cotto even after Margarito, but he really is damaged goods. Therefore I feel: Cotto gases out, he's damaged goods, and he's a cheater. Pc out!
Thursday Sep 17, 2009 08:43:53 AM
papke'sfury:
i think pac stops cotto early also. he'll be overwhelmed by speed and power, the 2 greatest, deadliest weapons a fighter can have
Thursday Sep 17, 2009 10:15:55 AM
MisterLee:
Difference between Pacquiao and Cotto is ... they both started their career depending on their power, and being brawlers. However, Pacquiao has learned how to swim without getting wet, Cotto has not. Cotto has wear and tear from the Mosley fight, the Marg fight, and then the Clottey fight. Pacquiao has remained virtually untouched in his last 3-4 fights. Also, Mayweather has no wear and tear b/c he never been in a war (unless you consider Castillo or Chop Chop Corley his greatest wars attrition. Pc!) Tss rules!
Thursday Sep 17, 2009 10:55:23 AM
Suits, Stop Squabbling, And Posturing, AND MAKE FIGHTS!
"Floyd may very well be the most talented boxer but that he does not understand that what the fans, who ultimately pay the bills, watch fights for is entertainment. At the moment, he not only ignores that reality but frankly doesn't seem to care. Neither about our wishes and/or our passion for to see great fights. Thus, there is little Go ... and even less Show. I am vaguely interested in the Business of Boxing. Frankly, it is a mess on a good day and worse on it's worst. I prefer reading the Business pages where brilliant men and women develop skills and strategies to create incredible value and wealth (for themselves and others) in ways far more effectively and meaningfully than those who Rule ...some might say Ruin...this beautiful Sport." --FE'ROZ, speaking for a majority of fight fans