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Monday Aug 24, 2009

The wide receiver says that he wants to tangle with welterweight champ Berto. Think he'd be in over his head, or what?

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NFLer Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson Says He Would KO Andre Berto

By Ron Borges

        Chad Ocho Cinco knows what he wants next and it’s not just a few more touchdown receptions. He wants welterweight champion Andre Berto.

 

      “I want to fight Berto,’’ the Cincinnati Bengals’ Pro Bowl wide receiver said after a recent pre-season game against the New England Patriots. “I’ve been training for a while. We’ve been going at it on Twitter. I may even tweet him from the end zone.

 

      “We can do it for charity. It would be just like tonight. I kick an extra point and people say ‘I didn’t know you could kick!’ After I beat Berto people will say, ‘I didn’t know you could fight!’ I’ll knock him out. People would pay to see that.’’

 

        Indeed they would but the entertainer formerly known as Chad Johnson may be getting just a tad ahead of himself. Last off-season Johnson trained with former featherweight champion Kevin Kelly in Florida, Ricardo Williams, Sr., the father of the ex-Olympic boxer Ricardo Williams, Jr., in Cincinnati and even for a month in Los Angeles at Freddie Roach’s legendary Wild Card Gym.

 

      Roach, the future Hall of Fame trainer of Manny Pacquiao who recently trained Shaquille O’Neal for his upcoming reality television “fight’’ with Oscar De La Hoya and is used to having celebrity athletes and entertainers at his Hollywood sweat shop, watched Ocho Cinco during some of his workouts and then gave him some wise counsel.

      “I didn’t work with him but I watched,’’ Roach said. “Kevin was training him. He’s obviously fast of course and a good athlete and all but he’s not a boxer.

 

      “He said he wanted to fight Manny and I told him ‘Calm down. We’ll fight you at heavyweight.’ He’s a great guy but he talks some s---.

 

      “Boxing is one of those sports you have to grow up with like I did. Football is tough and all but someone has to get used to another guy just coming to hurt you. If you start at a young age you skip the fear factor. At six years old you send your Hot Wheels down the side of a mountain no problem. You’re fearless. You get older and you begin to understand what can happen.

 

      “But I’m sure the balance and coordination of it, especially for a wide receiver like him, would be helpful. The training part of it surely would help his hand-eye coordination.’’

 

      Roach said television executive Michael King, who once tried to take over the American Olympic program, has launched a search for the next great American heavyweight. He’s signed 25 college football players who failed to make it to the NFL and is paying them to train. One recently won a Golden Gloves title in California and another has already turned professional.

 

      To Roach, it’s an interesting concept. Many have theorized that men who in the past would have been heavyweight boxers now eschew the sport for football or basketball because it’s an easier road to wealth. If true, King’s experiment might change what has become a precipitous slide in American fortunes in heavyweight boxing.

 

      But while Roach finds the idea intriguing he’s not so sure it will produce the desired results, based on what he’s learned over a lifetime spent in the sport.

 

      “Twenty five year old guys who are college graduates going from football to boxing?’’ Roach asked. “I don’t know if it will work. We had a guy who was a big lineman from USC, Winston Justice, train here for a whole year after he got suspended for shooting some friend with a BB gun. He did pretty well and he told me he wanted to forget football and turn pro.

 

      “I talked him out of it. He ended up a No. 1 draft choice. That was a better way for him to go.’’

 

      The same is true for Ocho Cinco’s thoughts of one day giving up his weekend job in the NFL for the full-time grind of professional prize fighting. Yet Ocho Cinco insisted even if he never gets to square off with Berto “for three or four rounds or whatever it takes,’’ he has benefited greatly from boxing in a way NFL defensive backs will pay for dearly this season.

 

      “I use one of the moves I learned in boxing on defensive backs now,’’ Ocho Cinco said. “I catch the ball and then flip the guy past me with one hand and I’m gone. I learned that in the boxing ring.

 

      “My hand-eye coordination has improved, which I know is difficult for you all to believe possible. My footwork has always been there but it’s even better and my cardio (fitness) is stupid (which means good).

 

      “After last season (a troubled one for him and the Bengals) I wanted to challenge myself. Boxing is hands down the hardest sport. It’s the hardest training. I’m in stupid shape this season (because of his off-season boxing workouts).

 

      “Boxing is no joke. I’ve done it for almost a year straight. I like it. I’ll fight for real after the season. I know I got a (NFL) contract (banning such dangerous hobbies) but I want to do it. Whatever I earn I’ll just give it to Mike (Brown, the Bengals’ owner who would very likely fine him).

 

      “When I was in LA, I’d do boxing training at Freddie’s in the morning, lift weights in the afternoon and do football training at night. I used to think soccer training was tough but all you do is run up and down. Boxing is so much harder than anything I ever did.

 

      “It looks easy on TV but you try doing it for three rounds. And don’t get in there with some pressure fighter.’’

 

      You mean like Andre Berto?

 

      “Nah, I’ll knock Berto out,’’ Ocho Cinco said, his electric smile lighting up the room. “Don’t you think people would pay to watch that?’’

      Surely they would just like they pay to watch him dance in the end zone. The only difference is he just might not be the guy doing the dancing this time.

 

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donputo69 at lax airport:  hahahaha....my boy ochocinco will ko berto...thats whats sup...i will pay to see that fight....my prediction?....85 in 3....via TKO....you heard it here first....holla back!!!
Monday Aug 24, 2009 04:29:46 PM
MisterLee:  Never seen ocho cinco, but i can't see an NFL guy beating a pro, esp.a world champion. Holler!
Monday Aug 24, 2009 04:41:41 PM
Radam G, a humble PacManite:  Ocho Cinco will get knocked out in about 30 seconds. End of discussion. Holla@
Monday Aug 24, 2009 05:23:39 PM
Robert Curtis:  I think a tune-up or two is needed before Chad tangles with Andre. Or maybe two hundred tune-ups.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 05:41:30 PM
ali:  Ocho Cinco im a fan but Berto would K.O you in round 1 if the rounds were only 1 minute. There is no helmet in boxing and you can't run out of bounds to aviod contact.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 06:03:29 PM
the Roast:  What does Ocho weigh? I know one thing, if Bertos fighting, there will be clinching.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 06:41:47 PM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite:  FUNNY! Bobby C is at it again. What a COMIC! Holla!
Monday Aug 24, 2009 07:21:07 PM
Anony:  WHAT IS THIS GUY SMOKING???? Berto is a Pro. He (Ocho Cinco) just layed down the perfect plan to loose... meaning Berto should tire him and then KO him out in the later rounds. Piece of cake. But you have to give credit to the guy. He has cojones to call out Berto.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 08:25:50 PM
DaveB:  Ocho Cinco has to just be doing this for publicity. I'll lay 85-1 this "fight" never happens. Good thing too for Mr. Ocho Cinco who needs to just stick to football because he doesn't really know what he is getting himself into.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 09:17:15 PM
Al:  I hope it happens, because I guarantee you there are fools out there that think Ocho Cinco would beat Berto. Please God let this fight happen, because Berto will KO him like Tua KO'd Ruiz. Yes, it would be that easy. Maybe he should call out the REAL welterweight champ, Sugar Shane, who seemingly can't get a meaningful fight. SSM would brutalize him worse than Berto. Let that one happen in February 2010. Shane will do it, guaranteed. I can see him smiling now at the prospect.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 10:11:05 PM
Al:  Ocho Cinco weighs 180-190 too, but that doesn't matter. He'll get beat down. There are no NFLers that weigh 147, save a kicker or two.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 10:13:06 PM
wowww:  this guy is straight stupid as he says hahha what a fool, the guy prob has a good 40 pounds on berto as berto would not fight at 147 but closer to his walk around weight of 165 but bert still kos him in 2 or less and 1 if he really wants 2, wont ever happwen on ochos end it just wouldnt be allowed by the nfl, whats w these other athlets like siva wanting to fight roy jones and now this clown?? a boxer goes to the nfl for a practice he would have the wind knocked out of him quicker than u can say shit, same in reverse for this clown, and silva although an mma fighter has no place in a boxing ring and certainly not w a roy jones, if something like this happens 1 of these guys can be seriously hurt
Monday Aug 24, 2009 10:33:05 PM
Michael:  Lol. This is awesome. Chad Johnson has always been a great entertainer. But that fight would never happen. As entertaining as Chad Johnson is, he isn't stupid. He's not going to actually fight a fighter. That being said, a fighter wouldn't actually step onto the football field to challenge him to a game of football.
Monday Aug 24, 2009 10:46:37 PM
Fistic Fury:  I don't know about american football but this strikes me as similar to David Beckham saying he'd whoop David Haye...
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 05:00:52 AM
jt:  Chad spent time in Florida as a kid, he's just hyping one of his boys. Anybody watch Berto - Urango? All the way to the final bell? Didn't think so. Andre needs the hype. Oh, and Bailey is going to do what Berto couldn't this Friday.
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 10:10:58 AM
MisterLee @ fistic Fury:  American Football players are usually extremely muscular, esp. the upper body, have natural explosiveness for sprinting, tackling, and cutting corners (they could whoop bekham in a fight no doubt), and have a certain degree of grace, especially a wide receiver, who would sometimes do crazy stuff like catching a ball with his tip toes on the sidelines or diving horizontal and catching the ball with one hand and cradling it so it doesn't touch the ground. However, without a doubt, , Berto will whoop him until he sees Ocho Cinco Berto's in his head. Holler!
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 10:50:35 AM
MisterLee riding high on 85:  Ocho Cinco would be how many seconds it would take for Berto to knock out this bum! Holler!
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 12:55:50 PM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":  I'm also a huge Football fan (#1 Niners Fan) and I'm going for Ocho Cinco on this. This guy is a physical receiver and recently he just became a kicker who scored a field goal. This guy is a freak of nature. There's prolly nothing this guy can't do and he's one hell of a salsa dancer too lol.
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 01:13:08 PM
Radam G, a most humble PacManite spittin' da numbers:  Ocho Cinco is what we say in Hong Kong: "Buku deaky dau!" -- A lot of F#^king crazy! In Maynila we'd call him:"Pinakasura' ulo" -- roughly translated to a "very broke head f#%ker!" Dude is the most craziest football player wanting to box since Ed "Too Tall" Jones wanted some of Larry Holmes, but changed his mind after 180-pound fat Texican knocked his butt down a couple of times. It should have been a kayo, but cornerman "Old Man" Giffrin did some genius cheatin' $hit by jumpin' in the ring and taking out Jones mouthpiece. This throw the referee off. And he didn't want to disqualify the wacky football player. And one thing that is not spoken about a lot, is that Herchel Walker was wanting to challenge Mike Tyson, until Walker came to the gym and got knock da fudge out by an amateur featherweight. Maybe he will tune into TSS Universe and spit about that time. Bottomline, OCHO CINCO or EIGHT FIVE is going to get a count of UNO CYPHER or ONE ZERO, better known as 10 -- and you're out -- KNOCKED da FUDGE out. That sucka ain't got no sense! Holla!
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 04:51:51 PM
brownsugar:  in what used to be Russia,.. the government started a program to groom successfull heavyweights (and lower weight boxers too) by picking out athletes with potential while they were still kids and then sending them to "Sports" college,.. this began more than 30 -35 years ago...because the government was eager to upstage the American and Cubans,....... in order for the USA to compete,.. it will take more than one private businessman training a bunch of "buff" young adults football rejects,.. you've got to grab them while they're young,.. between 8 and 14 years old,.. to produce "real" boxers,.. there may be some notable exceptions,. but it's like waiting for the second coming of Christ...
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 07:29:39 PM
MisterLee:  @ brownsugar, the Chinese gov't is doing this program now, with all sports, esp. namely Wushu or Kung Fu. Jet li was selected under this type of nationwide program in local schools when he was 8. He was in the beijing wushu team until he was 18, retiring as 5 times national champion and then going into movies (the same can be said of sanda or chinese kickboxing). However, i do believe human spirit and hope can overcome robotic like strict rigid programs, no matter how stacked, just look at the 1980 US Hockey Team made of college undergrads beating the world champs soviet union! Holler at the XX Chromo!
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 07:45:43 PM
Real Talk:  I watched Bengals hard knocks . Chad's got some fast hands but like Manny Steward says aint no timeouts or substitutions in boxing. Plus anybody can hit a bag , the bag don't hit back. He's too big to fight Berto , but if it did happen Berto probably KO Ocho Cinco. Unless he's got a chin. hehehehehe . Dueces
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 09:51:00 PM
brownsugar:  MisterLee,.. yes,.. eventually we will overcome!,... I've got about a dozen Jet Li movies,.. my favorite is "Lord Of Wutang" craziest Kungfu flick I ever saw,..right up there with Donny Yens' Monkey Fist... I practically taught myself how to kick watching those flicks.. I don't think Donny Yen ever got the acknowlegement he deserves from the USA... it made me sick that they gave him a part in Blade2 and never even let him speak a single line or showcase his amazing skills..
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 07:40:55 AM
MisterLee @ brownsugar:  yep! jet li is awesome! is that the kung fu cult master movie? Where he starts off not knowing any kung fu/wushu and he gets special skills and learns tai chi at the end? donnie yen, is that iron monkey or drunken tai chi? you seen his new ones, like ip man, spl, or flash point? New movies and all on youtube. take care!
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 11:09:33 AM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":  Who wins a fight between Jackie Chan vs Jet Li?
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 11:20:00 AM
#1 PacFan "KO's Cotto in 7":  Drunken master vs Tai Chi.
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 11:20:51 AM
MisterLee:  Jackie Chan, he used to get into streetfights and bar fights, jet li has only practice taolu or forms part of martial arts. who's more skillful? Jet li. Who has better ability and martial knowledge, maybe jet li, but in addition, prime jet li vs. prime jackie chan would be intersteing, b/c i doubt jet li still trains or has trained at all since his teenage years, whereas jackie chan trains regularly. But who cares, liu hai long can murder both of them at the same time (former Chinese King of Sanda), or donnie yen can beat both of them too (he's one of the few or only chinese martial arts stars to incorporate mma and groundfighting in his movies, like flashpoint and spl). Pc out! hope i didn't burst any bubbles, i mean let's not kid ourselve here, they're movie stars first, martial artists second, jackie chan is a performer and comedian and a stuntment, jet li is a forms champion and has good focus and flexibility. Bruce Lee is just an athletic dude who trained a lot. He's actually not my favorite martial artist. Pc! tss rules!
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 11:49:21 AM
MisterLee:  Jackie Chan is a STUNTMAN i meant. Also, tony jaa, he's a tricker with a little muay thai background, very little kung fu, some tae kwon do etc. He's also not very impressive outside of his sole piece of work Ong Bak. Pc out! :) Tss rules!
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 11:50:49 AM
thakidd:  Berto knocks Ocho out in 2 rds or less. Especially if Berto fights at his walk-around weight which is close to 170 lbs. Berto may not be the best boxer out there but's he's a really good boxer, he's lightning quick, fast reflexes, and strong punching power. Ocho only started training for a year against a former featherweight boxer. Berto's been fighting his whole life, fought in the amateurs, Olympics, and now is welterweight champion. Berto has the credentials. He also comes from a fighting background, his whole family are MMA fighters. Chad gets knocked out if this fight takes place guaranteed!
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 12:20:01 PM
MisterLee adds:  Ooo.... I see this being picked up by ESPN: The Ocho! :) ...
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 09:01:51 PM
brownsugar:  MisterLee that was Iron Monkey,.. and yes I've seen most of Donny Yen,.. I've got about 8 of his dvd's,.. Lord of Wutang is a rare vintage KungFu flick where Jet Li avenges his grandfather by assimilating different styles into his Tai Chi technique,.. he even fights an old master deep in some abyss who is chained to a giant bolder,... of course by the end Jet Li has gained almost God-Like kungfu prowess... I must have watched it a dozen times..with subtitles and all. thanks for the youtube tip,.. now I know where I can catch up on what I missed..
Wednesday Aug 26, 2009 09:25:18 PM
MisterLee @ brownsugar:  Yo yo... yeah i like most of Jet Li's flicks, the rare ones I love and hate, i love Born to defend (he does boxing and streetfighting for money in a local bar with american soldiers), and Doctor Wai and the Scripture with no words, both movies he directed, Dr. Wai was horrible, a fake indiana jones with 1st person narrative, a modern day person telling the story from a story book, and bad comedy. Have you seen Fong Sai Yuk or aka- The legend 1 & 2 (i like part 1's staff fighting scene, long vs. short staff), and Once upon a time in China (part 2 has a classic fight between jet li vs. donnie yen). See ya! but yeah, jet li makes quality movies. oh yeah, another movie is Fatal Move, the co star of SPL, named Wu Jing, a former member of beijing wushu team in the 90's, same team that jet li was on in the 70's, is starring in it, wu jing, and also sammo hung (you should know him, marshall law show on CBS back in day, and one of jackie chan's two other famous kung fu brothers, yuan biao, and himself, the fat one and older one). Fatal move focuses more on the Triad's perspective, Flash Point more on the cop's. See ya! PC out! Ultimoshogun, we need some input! pc out! tss rules!
Thursday Aug 27, 2009 09:35:23 AM
fdiaz:  Ocho Cinco is too big for Berto, P. Will vs Ocho Cinco would b better.
Thursday Aug 27, 2009 06:17:15 PM
Gary E. Nance:  Yeah - I remember once upon a time ago A younger Charles Barkley used to call out Mike Tyson saying he'd get in the ring with him, whip his A** etc. etc. Then their paths actually crossed at some event or a nightclub or somewhere and Barkley was confronted by Tyson and looked like a deer caught in the headlights and from what I read at the time wanted absolutely no part of Tyson. Stupid of athletes from other sports to think they have any chance at all of competing with professional prizefighters - insulting really.
Wednesday Jan 27, 2010 12:11:24 AM

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