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Lil Mac:
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This is all wrong for Pacquiao. I don't think Cotto is faded at all. Styles makes fights and Clottey and Margarito has the style that gave Cotto problems. Same thing as Marquez vs Pacquiao. I'm rooting for Pacquiao cause he's great for the sport of boxing but imho he's reached the limit. I just hope he doesn't get the worst result of a bad beat.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 04:14:10 PM
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armando:
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i think pacquiao i ducking marquez his afraid of marquez what he got his tarot read he knows if he fights marquez his going 2 get tore up! what cotto is damage good s ! what hes going two beat cotto and then retire! or he going to let cotto beat him and then retire! i hope you read this commet pacquiao if you dont fight marquez !! your not going 2 be in the hall fame in boxing i going make sure of it you pac rat
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 04:45:52 PM
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Rob:
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Why do people keep saying "Cotto hasn't been the same since Margarito" He anihilated an overmatched Michael Jennings and then won a hard fight against Joshua Clottey who would give anybody trouble.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 05:29:52 PM
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Nelson:
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I think I smell envy in your words just because there are no more Mexican fighters that's good enough for Pacquiao to fight other than Marquez. How many times does Pacquiao need to prove that he is the best! I remember when Hatton fans was even offended when Freddie Roach predicted a round three KO but ended up in round two KO instead. Pacquaio will fight Marquez if the gains are right. And I assure you, even if Pacquiao does not fight Marquez, he is already in the hall of fame byt getting by championships in six titles!!! How many boxers have done that?
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 06:20:12 PM
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CyberKill:
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Cotto is as strong as he is, probably a bit faster on 145 but still as strong.
to armando: how can pacman be ducking marquez if he already beat him twice? what else is there to settle? it would've been different if it was one win apiece, but it's 2-0 pacman...
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 08:40:33 PM
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Julio:
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Marquez fans should just STFU. I'm tired of them saying he beat Pac. Pac beat him twice!!! The first fight should have been a 10-6 score in the first round. So, it wasn't a draw. The judge even admitted his error.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 08:46:53 PM
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ramz:
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pac destroy cotto...............................
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 08:55:27 PM
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qulapo:
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how come marquez was again mentioned in this forum. its all about pacquiao and cotto dude... grow up and move on..
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 08:55:33 PM
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shaar _moot:
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Pac_man will punish Cotto.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 08:57:26 PM
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Ref:
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@armando,
JUst get a life....
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 08:59:21 PM
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(armando) juanita is will kiss the canvass again and wont get up ...he will tremble and bow down to pack and beg packy not to give him some sort of manila ice ...and owwww if the fight happens.??? remind juanita camp to bring ambulance w/ him just to make sure juanita will be rush to a hospital after a monstrous left hand !!!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:00:03 PM
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MisterLee:
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Wow! Thanks Ron Borges for giving Clottey credit,if not for inactivity, at least for his good moments too and his dominance in the middle rounds! Yeah, if we all watch cotto torres again, cotto is no longer the same fighter, margarito took part of his heart and confidence in that fight. If pacquiao is hurt, he could at least dance. if cotto is hurt, his defense nor footspeed can keep off pacquiao. This fight could very well be over in the mid rounds, between 5-7, BUT, it could also be a 3-4 round fight too if one or both fighters get tagged. Really, i'm looking forward to the supermiddleweight fight. Cotto was chosen b/c: he has a weak chin, he's damaged goods, he has a lot of technical flaws, he only has a puncher's chance with his left hook, not his jab, he's the most marketable. Mosley was declined b/c: he has a great chin, great endurance, few technical flaws, tough as nails, and he is slightly less marketable, but more fitting for pac's legacy. Pc out! I guess they have to see it this way, mosley has the ability to end pac's career, not only to screw up the mayweather match and future marquez fight. Mosley could cost pacqiuao more money down the line. Being too good, too nice, and not being marketable is hard on mosley in dis' hurt bitness. I think he's waiting for the winner of the mayweather fight, but money may ain't gonna give him the time of day. This leaves Mosley out of the popular girl's club, and he gonna have to start scavenging the march band and chorus for a suitable mate (clottey, williams, alfonso gomez,cintron at 154, angulo,moving ortiz up to welterweight, a rematch with margacheato? andre berto, quintana,judah, or how about moving up to middle and challenging sturm or pavlik?) pc out! tss rules!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:04:28 PM
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First and foremost, a defensive fighter against a counterpuncher is surely a boring fight. So the Mayweather - Marquez fight is a sure cure for insomnia. If you want the Pacquiao - Mayweather fight to materialize, don't spend a single cent to watch the boring (mis)match between PBF and JMM. If you have to, don't watch it at all (unless of course if you have insomnia). This will force PBF to negotiate for a fight with the Pacman at a more reasonable split.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:07:14 PM
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Joshua:
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I think it wont be hard for anybody to understand that when speed and power combines to execute a fierce attack and counter attack it will crack anybody in the path, style can be studied and that makes Pacquiao Roach combination a solar ecclipse of other boxers nowadays especialy Marquez! Goodluck strengthen all your jaw and ribs, anyway Paquiao needs famous opponents to beat and that makes boxing very exciting
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:09:04 PM
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Joshua:
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I think it wont be hard for anybody to understand that when speed and power combines to execute a fierce attack and counter attack it will crack anybody in the path, style can be studied and that makes Pacquiao Roach combination a solar ecclipse of other boxers nowadays especialy Marquez! Goodluck strengthen all your jaw and ribs, anyway Paquiao needs famous opponents to beat and that makes boxing very exciting
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:11:12 PM
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twinkie79:
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Armando says pac is ducking jmm
That's crazy
Avoiding jmm to figth cotto
Cmmon man
Cotto is is high risk than jmm
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:11:36 PM
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bongski:
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i dont think pacquiao is scared of anybody.He already beat marquez twice w/ flying colors i dont think this will be a hindrance to the hall of fame. This time w/Cotto is not a walk in the Park but he can win this match convincingly.......
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:12:46 PM
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khagaw:
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even if the pacman will not fight marquez hes a sure hall of famer..!!!!! surething is marquez will never be a hall of famer coz hes arrogant, no respect.... if he admit that the pacman beat him the last time maybe the pacman will agree a third fight......yaaaahhhhoooooooooooo.....
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:15:45 PM
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khagaw:
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even if the pacman will not fight marquez hes a sure hall of famer..!!!!! surething is marquez will never be a hall of famer coz hes arrogant, no respect.... if he admit that the pacman beat him the last time maybe the pacman will agree a third fight......yaaaahhhhoooooooooooo.....
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:18:31 PM
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Fistic Fury:
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This will be a massacre. Pacman will destroy Cotto inside 10. He's just way too quick and I think Cotto is fragile...
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:18:49 PM
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danby:
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GOOD LUCK MANNY, WE'LL PRAY FOR YOUR CONTINOUS SUCCESS
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:19:22 PM
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climax:
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mannys going to retire cotto in the seventh round due to a cut from an early round accidental headbutt inflicted by the pacman.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:20:39 PM
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rakisy:
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to armando: JMM again? if they fight again, the result would be the same . JMM is going to kiss the canvas and MP is going to win again... He may win points but as long as he can't Knock MP and as long as he keep kissing the canvas he'll never win... All he will get is brain damage in the near future...
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:21:38 PM
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Floyd Jr. vs JMM looks like a snoozer. It will be PBF Jr. by unanimous decision.
Cotto will do everything it takes to impose his size advantage because thats all he has going for him against he PACMAN.
Mosley is being kept in the freezer by Arum and the PACMAN team just incase Floyd Jr. makes negotiations too difficult. Floyd Jr. won't have any viable fight that will make as much money as a fight with the PACMAN.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:22:24 PM
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818 kid:
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lol..ducking marquez, by fighting cotto. ur funny armando. anyways, i see manny sneaking his straights and uppers through cotto's guard. I see him taking cotto out late. cotto survived clottey, but at the pace manny fights and the way cotto fades...thats a recipe for disaster. just like manny 's sharp shooting against hatton's no defense.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:26:04 PM
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Jerry Lynch:
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In another forum I have already picked Pac in 6 & also JMM by split dec. vs PBF although I do not feel at all confident in that battle of the initials. I don't care who wins the initial battle because Pac should beat PBF handily and finally get a KO victory over JMM if they fight a third time.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:44:15 PM
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tonton:
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Pacquiao will make salami out of Cotto.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:44:37 PM
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Justin:
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Does any one no who his the favorite in vegas? And what are the fighters being paid ??? was it 50/50?????
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:48:00 PM
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donputo69 @Fisic Fury:
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didnt they said that about judah, malinaggi, and mosley?...hhhhmmmm....i got cotto in 11....freddy roach will throw in the towel.....but i do agree with you in one thing though....its gonna be a massacre.....body shots....body shots....body shots.....body shots.....let me remind you diehard pacfans something...his first lost was due to a body shot....rrrrrrrrrrrr....cant wait till nov.14...4 days after my birthday......i wish i can sit next to a pinoy....so i can knock his @$$ out.....but only if he gets stupid with me....lol...COTTO IN 11....holla back!!!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:51:09 PM
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donputo69 eating lobster:
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btw....I WANNA SEE ALL YOU REAL PACMAN FANS OUT HERE AFTER THE FIGHT....THE FAKE ONES DONT COUNT....YA KNOW WHO YA ARE.....BREAKING NEWS: my sources are telling me that after scareweather beats the canvas kisser, he will callout ivan calderon at a catchweight of 130lbs...remember people...its only a rumor....but its swirling.....holla back!!!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:57:18 PM
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fafalicious:
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to armando:
ey marquez s d one ducking pacquiao.... pacqy ask a rematch right after their 1st match dat resulted a draw... it takes 4 years for him to realize and its too late.... pacqy is now the MAN... their chasing pacqy becoz of MONEY.....
try to review d tape dude... or search it on google... listen to wot pacqy said he wants a rematch... but marquez thinks he's the MAN so he ignore it... and now he keeps on whining the he won....
as d saying goes "same loser flocks together...
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 09:57:47 PM
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Anonymous user:
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Paquiao by ko somewhere in the middle rounds, before 9...
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:00:22 PM
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tomas:
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Paquiao by ko somewhere in the middle rounds, before 9...
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:02:07 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Excuses are already beginning to swarm as many see Cotto as damaged goods. I'm seeing clearly now, they've all learned their lesson from the Dela Hoya fight with Manny. A year ago I've read tons of articles saying that Manny is going to get hurt in there if he faces Oscar. They said ODLH had too many advantages over the Pacman. Now they want to be ahead of the game saying Cotto is not the same just in case Pacquiao disposes Cotto early. Come on, stop taking one man's glory. Stop trying to create an escape-goat. @MisterLee, if Pac's hurt he can dance? When has he ever danced his way to victory? With the second Marquez fight he fought at the end even though he was all gassed out.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:10:39 PM
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Anonymous user:
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armando you are wrong marquez can`t win agains pacquiao forever.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:11:00 PM
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JOEYPOGZ:
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Beating the pacman is easier said than done. He is not the # 1 p4p for nothing. Cotto will get the same beating what dela hoya & hatton experienced
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:14:45 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Yo Don, didn't they say that against Hatton? They said Hatton was going to KO Manny with a body shot. But what happened? Lights out!!!Yo I'll sit with you, if you pay for my ticket. I'm loud as hell when I watch a fight so I don't know. Hit it back,,,Payce!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:18:14 PM
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carmelo brix:
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guyz, this is pacmans era! cotto is tough but pacman is strong..cotto has power but pacman has speed, power and style..of course this is anybody's fight..but the advantages i guess is for pacman...when pacman set a fight against de la hoya, they said it will just be a circus..but how did the fight end?..when he was set to fight hatton, there are comments like you that hatton will destroy the pacman..hatton is the bigger man, etc..even he's coach floyd jr said they will knock pacman out..but again the result was overwhelming for pacman..why?.. simple.. he's great! one thing to add..if marquez still wants to fight pacman..i tell you..this time.. marquez will be NO MATCH with the pacman..that's for sure :)
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:22:58 PM
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marvin:
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armando,what did you say?pacman already beat marquez and you say to the people pacman needs to fight marquez?remember marquez kiss to the canvass 4 times...if u want to see marquez sleep to tne canvas for good then let him fight with pacman..your such a losser.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:23:40 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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A year is a long time in this game.. .and this last one has not been kind to Cotto. First, he was discouraged then demolished by Margarito after discovering that his vaunted left hook was having no impact. Once his confidence dropped, it was only a matter of time before the other shoe dropped....or should I say knee. He used Jennings to regain a trinket and his confidence...and then took a lot of clean shots from an otherwise reluctant puncher in Clottey. He has heart, no doubt....but the speed and stamina to fight against volume and speed seem to abandoning him. They can't against Manny. so comparing what a fighter did yesterday is not always an indicator of what they might do tomorrow. Gas guages are inaccurate. Tires that look fine can get thin overnight (and over the course of a fight). Manny on the other hand has looked like a rare few other athletes in any sport.....he looks like he is getting better. Make no mistake, Miquel is a tough tough opponent on any given night. But this November, that toughness is going to meet it's greatest test in the Little Man from GSC Phillipines. Cotto will need to draw on every last reserve to is he is able to prevail.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:32:12 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@Armando, I think Pacquiao would KO the canvass kisser in the first round. He'll ground and pound on this clown how does that sound? Seriously, he has the weakest chin but he is stubborn as hell.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:35:06 PM
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khagaw:
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the pacman vs cotto is the fight that make sense... other fights?? all nonsense....lúlú...yahooooo.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:36:53 PM
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jing:
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just what others says, its packman all the way,,, well just dont blink your eyes when the fight started, i think manny prevail the winner by knock out.....
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:48:29 PM
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jayo:
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a hell of a fight. . . . this is what boxing really needs not the jmm-pbf fight. Hope manny will win and retire for not once but many times he contributed much success to boxing.. . . peace!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:58:35 PM
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Blaze:
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Did you know that when pac fought marquez the 1st time. Pacquiao has a foot injury and still he end up a draw! (watch the post-fight interview) Thats what you call guts! But i think manny won that one! And by the way, Pac has more powerful fist than anybody, why? He punch with momentum! Carrying all his bodyweight and more..His Punch is heavier coz his within his fist a filipino nation is there! Pac KO by 6 rounds! Mabuhay manny!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 10:59:23 PM
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arf2x:
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pacquiao is the best fighter....he is already a complete fighter
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:26:50 PM
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ed:
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Manny has 75.5% ko percentage vs 79% ko percentage of Cotto. Speed vs Power. Who will prevail?
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:31:53 PM
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gummy:
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hair will grow in cotto heads after the manila ice hit him,just lyk ricky....... man
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:34:08 PM
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eric:
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.......armando wake up ...marquez knockdown 3times and save by the bill in st fight and 2nd fight marquez knockdown and he hold the rope but save by the bill again manny struggle in 130lb weight limit but he he figrht fair less....the 3 fight is non sense already .....do you think marquez can bit dlh? hatton ? like what manny do ? who is the boxer after he lose to marquez decide to retire???
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:51:41 PM
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ali @ Fe'ROZ:
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I think you broke it down perfect but I wonder if Pac has one foot in the sport and one foot out. He's talked about retirement and getting into poltics he been know to get on a plane and go home with out warning. Maybe he's not fully focus on boxing it's just somethen I was thinking about right now.
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:54:53 PM
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Jake Wood :
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@armando, after reading your comments, armando said " your not going 2 be in the hall fame in boxing i going make sure of it you pac rat " this to me is one of the most hilarious sentence I have read. hey armando are you in the international boxing hall of fame committee? i hardly doubt you are. I guess when your boxer is a whiner its to be expected that his fans are whiners too. beside the fact you blatantly hate for pacquaio, its only show your stupidy and bitterness. if you really hate pacquiao that much for beating marquez, why dont you show the same anger toward the other guys that beat marquez, CHRIS JOHN and FREDDIE NORWOOD. GET A LIFE
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:55:54 PM
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Rocky:
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I'm a filipino. I bet that Manny will win this fight.. It's going to be a knockout on middle rounds. No doubt for that. Pacman is too powerful than Cotto. Say it... Speed, power, stamina and agility, that is what pacman have got. To all of the boxing fans in the world especially to filipinos, watch out for this fight..It'll be most exciting fight of the year.. I can't wait it. Go Manny!!! Mabuhay ang Pinoy!!
Tuesday Jul 21, 2009 11:59:54 PM
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PR:
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ARMANDO YOUR A CRYING BABY MARQUEZ RAT!!!! PACQUIAO IS ALREADY HALL OF FAMER IN SIX DIVISION!!! WHAT ABOUT MARQUEZ!!!? UR SUCH A LOOOOOOOOSERS!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:03:02 AM
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bernzkiboy:
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PACQUIAO is damaged goods having beaten 3 times. cotto damaged goods with 1 defeat. no excuses please. here we go again with so many excuses. if you are damaged goods don't fight anymore. be gentleman and sport, man!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:03:43 AM
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ali @ #1Pacfan:
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Your right im hearing built in excuses for Cotto even I had one about him not having enough time off after such a tough fight with Clottey. But the hell with all that the better man is going to win the fight.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:09:38 AM
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Joshua:
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Why insist about Marquez over Pacquiao cant you just remember that Marquez once could not determine anymore where is his corner and went to the opposite side instead, I just hope that when he disrespected Pacquiao on insisting he won that fight was not due to his residual disorientation and just salestalk, you know where the money is and its in the fight against the PACMAN!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:16:00 AM
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Agent117:
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armando... armando... armando... where were you when PACQUIAO made MARQUEZ kiss the canvass 4 times? It wasn't a bad dream boy. That was for real so accept the FACT. Wake up and go on with your life...
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:17:20 AM
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bernzkiboy:
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PACQUIAO is damaged goods having beaten 3 times. cotto damaged goods with 1 defeat. no excuses please. here we go again with so many excuses. if you are damaged goods don't fight anymore. be gentleman and sport, man!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:23:39 AM
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lil'floyd:
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Cotto sleeps in 2:59 1st round...JMM is a loser...
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:36:57 AM
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DRiX_0408:
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soor people, Pacman will defeat Cotto coz he's faster, more powerful and became an intelligent unpredictable fighter. and of course, even size doesnt mater to him. since he box in MGM he never had been knockout.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:43:41 AM
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Manny and Floyd both have their upcoming fights. An appetizer for their long awaited match.., in case both of them successful. The Pacman being a 135-140 pounder will take on a heavier opponent and a primed and legitimate Welterweight champion Cotto. On the other hand, Mayweather besides fighting at 147-154 lbs lately try his comeback circus against a smaller and old lightweight champion Marquez. We can envision who of the two is greater by the class and level of opposition they are facing of. My prediction.., Pacquiao by clear knockout.., Mayweather by decision.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:54:10 AM
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JoelBurgos:
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Manny have the complete package that's why he is GREAT ! What are those, personal (humble, focused with unquestionable work ethic, coachable, thinking fighter and God Fearing) and professional skills (Speed, Power and Unpredictable strategies). Oh huh!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:58:29 AM
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blue4cor:
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Cotto's weight and size can be dangerously at a disadvantage. Manny will take the initiative of throwing his sharp jabs, Cotto will reply and miss. Some more combination of jabs will follow. Cotto will try to counter jab but Manny's quickness is just simply too hard to overcome for Cotto. Frustration will set in for Cotto. He can't do anything because of Manny's quick jabs combination. Cotto's game plan strategy will change abruptly by chasing Manny. But Cott'o's chasing is gonna cause him more trouble, he will lose his balance thus solid devastating punch will start to land on his face. At the end of the round 3 a very frustrated, embarrassed and battered bigger man will be in the state of confusion. The noisiest crowd ever in all of the boxing's battle will be heard all over the world. Fourth round starts with Manny power cheking Cotto. Manny will strike harder and wear out Cotto.When the right time comes Manny will unleash his hardest. Cotto may survive and extend his losing effort in the 5th but Manny's ferocious attack will continue and the unavoidable will finally come to end.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:59:48 AM
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Jacob:
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I like the way Cotto fights, calculating fighter, power and timing but when he meets paquiao it will be like his fighting in blitzs set up and he will recieve volume of punches get confused and lose all his timing and with Pacquiao's agility and lateral movements i realy doubt that He could find the target and unleashed his power and for sure it would a bloody battle between a pistol with occasional grenade vs an automatic rifle.At the end it would be a great fight coz Cotto is a proud warrior also. I dont think he was devastated anyway ,knowing he was cheated by Margarito and he could be inspired by JuanMa vs Penalosa.Its agreat fight!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:01:23 AM
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Jacob:
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whaat i noticed about Pacquiao is that he loves beating the still unbeaten. Unbeaten thai, unbeaten korean, unbeaten austrsalian, unbeaten Lucero Solis and he likes beating Legends like Barrera ,De la hoya. I think he find no challenge againts Mexican anymore. Maybe He is more challenged and curious now by this Puerto Rican.I know Pacman will fight at his best in this fight. Not to disrespect Cotto but this is real bad news for him.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:12:12 AM
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I think Manny will win the fight but Cotto is no slouch. Cotto has been exposed plenty of times, Margarito was just the only one to finish the job. The 1st fighter to fight Manny going forward, will beat him. Because Manny Pac cannot fight/box going backwards.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:29:23 AM
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smile dude:
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To everybody, the Pacman will lose in 14 November 2009 @ MGM Grand against Cotto! Breaking News!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:39:51 AM
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july:
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i have a strong feeling that pacquiao wins this fight in the middle rounds. although cotto was not impressive against clottey, the fight against pacman will be competitive. a fight that will test pacman's power and skills. but im leaning to pac. meanwhile, if pac fights marquez for the third time, the result would be the same. how can marquez claim that he is better than pac, he can not knock down pac EVEN ONCE. pathetic marquez
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 02:16:19 AM
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dan:
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wow here comes the 7th title for pacman. the only man with 7 titles and he will get 4 titles in 2 years time. actually the 7th title was won already when he beat dela hoya at 147. dela hoya has 6 title and the only person before pacman to hold that distinction. i smell victory already by the pacman over cotto in the 10th round. next gayweather in march 2010 for pacman.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 02:16:53 AM
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Marco Polo:
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I think this fight will test pacman's chin if he ever caught with a clean strong crisp chillin punch. Coz the last time i saw pacman hit like that is when he faught canvass kisser 2nd time. round two before the end of the round. he was caught by 1-22 combi. thats the part where im really amazed with MP, when he was caught by those combi and mybe he was hurt by those, coz he wiggled or mybe outbalanced? Nway When he was in the corner and his SMILING playin cool and mybe on his brain sayin (damn he got me with those two shots hehehehe i need him to pay for those shots). It is rare for a boxer that after he was hit by combi and still smiling after dat, coz mostly i watched fighters after they got hit hard their face are so angry or shock..for me these kind of fighters can be called real warriors. i can col this fight as LIVE DOG vs LIL BIG WARRIOR.HEHEHE.damn programmers block again.. grrrrr.. ummmm i dont know mybe some of you saw other fights like dat. maybe you can share their names and il search it on google.tnx.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 02:41:00 AM
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kidharami:
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COTTO is not a push over.... and that what makes this bout super exciting!!! just imagine if COTTO was a whimp? who would watch this bout! lets be serious and look at the facts with clear unbiased eyes, COTTO has a legitimate chance of upsetting our national fist the "Pacman" and that what makes this fight and all his previous fights exciting! that is why we are called fans (short for fanatics) cause whatever or whoever is placed in front of our hero we always know that he would triumph over his adversary, may it be Cotto, Hatton, Marquez or the "Klitckho brothers" we are fans and we shall support our hero all the way! don't let anybody take away our hero's accomplishments by saying the guy was washed out, old, damaged goods! hey! if that is the case who should manny fight that would fit the criteria of a MEGA FIGHT?
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:01:45 AM
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MArk:
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i DEFINITELY think pacman is ducking marquez!!!! i mean come on, all pacman has to do is wait for sept. 19th and challenge the winner?!
Are u guys joking?? he s the face of boxing now, he can do whatever he wants, the very idea of him ducking marquez is absurd.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:19:29 AM
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donputo69 eating at IHOP:
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@#1pacfan....yo pacfan....COTTO IS NO HATTON.....nuff said....holla back!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:38:47 AM
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DaLegendary1:
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Cotto is going to destroy pac-man he has never been hit by someone as big and strong as him. Freddie Roach knows it too that's why he wanted Cotto to agree to 143lbs.that's what Freddie roach does he tries to win the fight for pac man outside the ring not this time. it's going to be exciting for a while but i see a similar outcome as the Judah fight. Cotto's just too big to beat Cotto you have to be physically imposing ala margachito and even with loaded gloves Cotto still went 11. Bad fight for pac-man, Cotto in 7to8 maybe 9.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:18:47 AM
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Dan:
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Pac is a totally different fighter now he's complete and still improving. You cannot compare him when he fought Marquez. He's a different Pac now, If he knocked down Marquez 3 times before, surely if they meet now, Pac will toy JMM and will kiss the canvass like Hatton.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:21:31 AM
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i think cotto can take mannys punch so manny should be careful and take cotto out in later round
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:26:58 AM
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GOAT:
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I want to see how Cotto looks at the weigh in. If he looks drained and weak from making 145 it could be an easy night for PACMAN, but if he looks strong and healthly he could give PACMAN some problems. Remember, PACMAN cannot fight going backwards and Cotto is a master at making fighters back up. Pacman will loose some of his punching power if he is constantly on his back foot but ultimately I believe he will win by late round stopage. Cotto's face busts up to fast and he takes to many clean shots to the face to last 12 rounds. PACMAN by TKO on cuts. Then we will see PACMAN vs PBF for all the marbles (PBF by 5th round KO).
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 06:23:27 AM
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Juztin huerta Lopez:
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DON'T CRY 4 DINAMITA ARMANDO,,Pacman brought Marquez 4 times on the canvass..THE WORLD KNOWS WHO'S THE BETTER FIGHTER ..
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 07:23:16 AM
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Anony @ to all Pinoy's:
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TO ALL MY PINOY BROTHERS.... I'm so sorry and I feel your sorrow but it has to happen.... Cotto will stop Pacquiao's winning streak and I know some of you will even cry and the Philippines will have a bad night but you should not feel bad at all because Pacquiao will loose to someone who is really worthy. I just hope it is not a big KO win cause I like Pacman and he deserves to loose in high standards. To those of you who might feel scare, PLEASE send me a reply with rage if you will. I will know how to deal with your pain, fear or panic. Don't worry, it is OK if you cry on my shoulder and let go your feelings. We are all brothers in boxing. hehehehe.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 07:49:34 AM
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James:
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Cotto say yesterday that Emmanuel Stuart will going to be in his corner :):):)
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:00:20 AM
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Earl on the hopper after eating Burger King:
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Cotto is too strong and will take it to Pacquiao and KO him inside of 5 rounds. Cotto KO 5 PacMan.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:34:42 AM
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zigman:
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PACMAN SPEED WILL DESTROY COTTO...IT WILL BE BLOODY. PACMAN WINS BY LATE ROUND STOPPAGE.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 09:09:01 AM
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Omar:
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The only problem with Pac man vs. Cotto fight is that they are making Cotto come down to 145lbs. If you're the man, beat him at his weight class. I think Pac Man will win, but it would be even sweeter if Manny didn't have all of these demands on weight. I know it's business and he wants as many advantages as he can get, but it taints the soon to be victory for me a bit. If I recall correctly, didn't PBF move up to 154 to beat Oscar? I just don't see that same desire in Manny. He had all of these penalties for Oscar if he weighed in 1 lb over the 147 limit. Manny is a great fighter, just don't be blinded by his victories. There is so much that goes into a fight. Understand the terms of the contracts.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 09:14:38 AM
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Mel:
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Which is a better match up? Pacquiao-Cotto or Mayweather-Marquez? Definitely, it's Pacquiao-Cotto. It's guaranteed to be an exciting fight while the Mayweather-Marquez is complete opposite. In fact, the Mayweather-Marquez is almost assured to be a boring fight. And it only shows that Mayweather chooses only opponents that he can bully (Marquez) and sure to win over. He could have chosen Mosley who is the real champ in his welterweight (147lbs) division but he chose to fight a lightweight champ (135lbs). That's a 12lbs difference and it's a lot in boxing
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 09:21:36 AM
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Come on guys. To say that PacMan is going to walk over Cotto is just very ignorant. Margarito and Clottey that are strong as oxes had to go toe to toe with Cotto to beat him. Granted both are slower than the PacMan, but he is not physically in the same world as these guys. With that said the speed will still be there, but not the punching power.
Now Cotto will be fighting a samller guy and will have power. If that power gets to the PacMan, which I think it will and Cotto moves foward pressing the action I see Cotto winning the fight.
I do agree that Cotto's chin is suspect, but the dude many times has gotten up and won some good fights. He has been cut, but also PacMan has been cut and hurt bad (JMM gave him a beating in the second fight).
I go with Cotto because speed is great, but the power that is present when fighting smaller men disapiers when fighting big guys. Cotto by UD.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:23:52 AM
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jOWEL:
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cOTTO WIL KIS D CANVAS AFTER 5 ROUNDS. HE HAD A HARD TIME BEATING CLOTTEY DUE TO CLOTTEY'S SPEED, WHAT MORE TO PACMAN'S BLINDING SPEED..D FIGHT WAS EVEN CONTROVERSIAL. HE WILL BE OUT-CLASSED FOR SURE...
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:29:38 AM
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mango:
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i've watched many fights of cotto. as i've studied his fights, cotto's styles has similarities with hatton's styles. both are tailor made for pacman's manila ice. so watch out cotto, for manny's
manila ice. PACMAN BY 7RD KO!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:33:11 AM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Yo Don, I know Cotto is no Hatton; I was just referring to what many said about Hatton being a body puncher like Cotto. It's like you said, "they said that about Judah and Corley." But Pacman is nowhere near Judah's or Corley's level. @GOAT, I with you on that about Cotto coming in healthy so we can watch a great fight. I think Manny will do fine if Cotto presses him back. He's got the right hook(Manila Ice) he can go to. Manny will trade with Cotto and he will not back down you can count on that. Manny's the type of fighter who will go out with a bang. If Cotto can take Pac's punches his confidence will build up in the late rounds. I think it's Cotto who will be backpedalling trying to avoid the straight lefts.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:35:19 AM
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ultimoshogun:
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I agree with MisterLee and Fe'ROZ.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:38:08 AM
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Delusion Fan(boys):
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Jmm beats Floyd?? Yeah right, you guys let your "hate" for Mayweather go toooo far, If a past his prime Barerra and Pacman found Marquez's chin and sat him down, what do you think a Fast counter punching WW is going to do? difference is he is NOt gett'n up! This will be a showcase fight for Floyd's speed and counter punching...Floyd TKO6 Marquez!
Pac-Man finishes Cotto....Cotto was a Walking KO waiting to happen BEFORE the Margarito fight (he takes toooo many punches, cuts easily) he doesn't have the same Confidence he once did and Pacman's southpaw style, hand/foot speed, and pop will be tooo much for the Puerto Rican superstar...Manny TKO10 Cotto!
That fight could go either way, as cotto could attempt to stay away from the left cross by moving to his left also in plans to drop that left hook to the ribs, where the pacster has shown past vulnerability...
But That's Y they fight the fights!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:41:38 AM
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jOWEL:
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COTTO WIL KIS D CANVAS AFTER 5 ROUNDS. HE HAD A HARD TIME BEATING CLOTTEY BECAUSE OF THE LATTER'S SPEED.. WHAT MORE OF PACMAN'S BLINDING SPEED. D FIGHT WAS EVEN CONTROVERSIAL. HE WILL BE DESTROYED AND OUT-CLASSED FOR SURE.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:42:40 AM
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Robert Curtis:
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Who says Manny can't fight backwards? A couple of years ago, too many folks thought Manny didn't fight so well going forwards. Now much crow has been eaten. Manny has excellent in-and-out and lateral movement. He doesn't run from folks, but he uses the ring well, better and better each time we see him. Cotto's chances are on the slim side(pun intended). How he slims will be the main factor for Cotto. Power would be his only edge. If he can make weight without being starved, and if he peaks on time, then he has the puncher's chance. We know Manny will arrive in perfect annihilation mode. This fight promises to be better than the DeLaHoya and Hatton fights. But I don't know if this match will reinvigorate boxing as much as Ronbo says it will.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:47:30 AM
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diehard fan:
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this is the fight that we are waiting for not the fake one....go pacman...good luck cotto.....
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:51:39 AM
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Fe'Roz @ ali, GOAT and #1:
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Ali, your point about Manny's future interests beyond boxing are good ones that I have seen very few writers address in relation to how it might impact the present....and more specificlly, this fight. That said, I think MP always comes to war....calm in the comfort of knowing he has left nothing to chance in either training or preparation. If he does link his boxing legacy to his future, it appears as though he understands how important it is that he leave the game on top. Since he wants ultimately to meet Floyd, I doubt he is looking past Cotto (in the wrong way). GOAT, I'll be looking at the a same thing at the weigh-in. Cotto can make this weight without a doubt. The question is: 'is this the one time too many'. He already has shown some problems with his stamina in tough fights (I have always watched his technique in breathing while in his corner; he struggles)....and he has taken a lot of recent punishment this past year. But I never question his heart. #1 Pacfan, I agree completely with every word of your response to GOAT. Well said. pc
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:55:17 AM
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Wengz2002:
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I don't really believe that Cotto is that. damage..
He was only beaten once by Margarito which I believed was had some illegal substance in his gloves.....
Cotto is a Warrior!!!
Have you seen Jorge Arce's fights...???
Have you seen Arturo Gatti's fights...???
Pacquiao also suffered a devastating K.O in his early career but was able to bounce back and became P4P King...
Amir Khan also suffered a brutal K.O. but also was able to win his first World Title Belt!!!
I can't compare the beatings that Arce & Gatti received in there careers!!!
Also, Cotto was fighting Bigger men in Margarito & Clottey...
Again, Cotto is not badly damage as some of you may be believed!!!
Pacquiao-Cotto is a great fight~
I see Pac winning by a close clear decision or a late K.O.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:03:08 AM
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Fe'Roz :
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Robert Curtis, we must have pushed "send" at the same time. Not only are your remarks about Manny's abiilities and development spot on....they now have me examining the other side of the equation: Miguel Cotto. Most Cotto fans are both extremely loyal and passionate (for good reason) ...but few have given reasons why they think technically Cotto can/will beat MP. I'm not talking about hopes and dreams....I mean analytically what tools Cotto has that give him specific advantages besides his natural size. And I'm listening.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:05:09 AM
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GOAT@ Robert Curtis:
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When I say PACMAN can't fight going backwards I mean moving backwards because you want to is one thing, but moving backwards because a strong and determined Cotto is comming at you is completely different. It's hard for a puncher to get the proper leverage for a knockout if he is moving backwards. Most KO's that come from fighters moving backwards comes from speed and accuracy ( Ali vs Liston 2, SRR vs Gene Fulmer, and PBF vs Hatton) I know there are probably more but they come to mind. PACMAN has the speed and accuracy so he can definately do it but it won't be easy, a properly conditioned Cotto is a hellava fighter.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:16:20 AM
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@Fe'Roz, for you to agree with me is sensational! Cotto will have the size advantage over Pacquiao, power I believe would be to Cotto slightly. Cotto's keys to victory: Plan A Press the action, fight on the inside( hooks to body and the left hook on top combination) cut off the ring if Manny starts to back up. Manny is difficult to put against on the ropes or the corner so this would be a difficult task. Plan B Cotto must work on his footwork in training camp because he will need it if the fight prolongs in the later rounds. I see two scenarios for this fight, It's either going to be Pacquiao who will dart in and out pot shooting Cotto(If Pac's punches don't have an effect on Cotto), or Cotto who will be hurt by Pac's punches and backpedalling to avoid getting KOed-My pick.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:31:09 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite spitting da spit from Cali:
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I see all Pinoys out in da Universe childing and wilding -- living da life and talkin' smack. And we know that Cotto, Manny is going to sack. Da Hispanic versus da Aispanic. For all you people, and know nothings who don't know jack, Pinoys are sometimes known as Aispanic because of our Asian and Spaniard mix. Ain't we some petty mutts. The Ricans are too. But this is the WAR of da Islands. And Manny will get an easy win. Cotto is not damaged good. The haters are just getting hyped up to say that Manny fought and beat a damaged Miguel. They are even looking for an angle to accuse Nation Pac of being a cheat, so they call call Manny -- "PacCheato." Cute! I am just calling my Miguel -- Cottodefeato. Must I say more, he is going down in round four. Holla!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:34:22 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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I musta fo'got! Super piece, Superfightwriter Ron B. I see what you see. Holla!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:40:38 AM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@GOAT, PBF didn't knockout Hatton while moving backwards. That was a flash knockdown you are talking about. Which is similar to Pac's right hook knockdown. Floyd KOed Hatton in the corner with straight right hand.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:43:53 AM
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cottopr1:
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lets not 4get that cotto is a warrior true champ and pacman has fought only one fighter that was 2 give him competition jmm hatton didnt stand a chance hes over rated and de la hoya with out saying hes washed up not physically but inside heart. Barrera. Morales even though beat him once were on their way out.... now Cotto yes he took a beating against margarito maybe with loaded hands but he also dish one out. I though he was brilliant in the Clottley fight he showed heart and a fight that most fighters dont have. I mean wow his fight record is incredible b4 Clottleys name wasnt mentioned bcause of his tough style but Cotto fought the best out there and i think hes gonna b victorious yes he is going 2 fight the p4p champ but he is a true fighter so no one cant count him out then watch out mayweather cause what Tito could not do Cotto will bcome the first puertorican p4p fighter
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:57:03 AM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Great post Radam, is as enjoyful as always. Yo what's up with the inactivity, layoff the coconut juice, or the San Miguel, Ginebra, or one of my faves Fundador.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:00:09 PM
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GOAT ! #1 Pacfan:
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PBF did knock Hatton out moving backwards. Hatton got up but he was gone. When PAC hit Hatton with the right hook, Hatton had his legs under him because it was early in the fight. When PBF check hooked him Hatton had no legs when he got up. Pac has the ability to do it but it is more speed and accuracy than power. As a fight fan I want Pac to win because Pac and PBF will be the biggest fight since Ali Frazier 1.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:25:51 PM
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huh?:
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pacman's ko wins s more than cotto's total wins
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 12:38:49 PM
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Anony:
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Tutu-ruru-tutututu-rutu-turu.... you Pac fans are becoming crazy... I wish this fight was closer than november so we don't have to go back and forth with sterile comments until then. Poor Manny hardcore fans. They just can't see beyond their eyes. COTTO!!! COTTO!!!! COTTO!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:13:53 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@GOAT, If Hatton didn't go head first into the corner post he would have had his legs under him. But the fact that he hit the post just made that left hook that much harder. To compare the left and the right hook, Floyd's hook would prolly have more pop though. Good comparison with the Ali-Frazier, Pac would be like Frazier right?
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:21:00 PM
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GOAT:
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To quote the infamous Roger Mayweather "When Floyd fights Hatton it's going to be like the Rocky movie only difference is that the real mother f*****r is going to win". So, the PACMAN/PBF fight will be like Ali/Frazier 1 only difference is that the real MFer (PBF) will win.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:32:58 PM
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The Governor:
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Who is Cotto????????
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 01:56:17 PM
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Nobody:
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Mark my words: Cotto will beat Pacquiao.
Cotto will be the bigger man when they get to fight. Pacquiao moved up in weight to fight an overmatched Diaz, a shot boxer in ODLH and an overrated Ricky Hatton. Tell me, who has ODLH and RH beaten lately? DeLaHoya and Hatton are famous for the fights they lose, not for the fights they have won.
Pacquiao is a great fighter, but he has not fought anybody over 130 lbs.
Cotto can box and counter punch. Ask Mosley.
If Cotto can fight for 12 rounds, I don't see him losing this fight. Pacquiao has problems with counter punchers, that is why his fights with Marquez were so close and controversial; if not for the knockdowns, Marquez would have won easily both matches.
I don't think Cotto is a shot fighter. Sure, he lost to Margacheato and had an easy fight with Jennings and overcame a nasty cut to still survive and still clearly beat Clottey.
Cotto is going to surprise a lot of people that night.
Remember, you read it here first.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 02:21:26 PM
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Real Talk touching down:
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Ahhhhh , let me see . First ......good look Misterlee with the comparison to trainer Naz and B-Hop . That to me is one of the highest honors a TSS alum can receive an I accept it with humility and gratitude . Now on this fight which I think will be good IF it last to 8 rounds I say is a toss up . Pacman has the speed advantage an will be in tip top shape . Cotto has superior timing and has nuetralized speed at least twice (Zab/Mosley) . I give Cotto a pass on the Clottey fight for anything that may have looked suspect . In fact I think he fought a good fight considering he got butted and had a double split flowing into his eye since like rd. 2 I believe . Cotto who fought Clottey didn't look like Cotto who fought Zab though , but I can't stress this enough....Cotto can box . Pacman is a phenom plain and simple . Speed ,power ,stamina ,heart , instincts an intelligence which is his most underrated quality. He has shown through his improvment that he's a student of the game . Cotto's defense will have to be tight for this one cuz the hands will be coming fast . In the Clottey fight I noticed that he hand his hands high for certain parts . That will do him justice in this fight . I remember I think it was Feroz who said Cotto started to run out of gas after the 6th rd. . I have to respectfully disagree with that because I was yelling at the screen "don't punch yourself out Cotto" when he had Clottey on the ropes with a lot of time left . Ctooto took the next 2 rds. off if I remember correctly and Clottey got in a groove . Cotto has been through wars an I wonder will the wear n tear show up on fight night . Fighting Pacman is usually a high octane pace . Will Pacman be able to handle the boxing skill , movement(which is underrated), and power of Cotto and he sets traps. These are some puzzling questions which have me racking my brain on who to pick . As far as Floyd goes you know my oppinion on him . I say he the sharpest dude out there . He's like a chamillion in the ring . He analyses his opp. and then adapts his gameplan and systematically takes them apart . One of the most skilled and intelligent fighters I've ever seen . His resume can be attacked because there are questions out there in the form of contenders at 147 on how good is he really . Or can he beat so and so . I'll take a wait and see approach as to me it's become a dead issue until he fights Marquez . To me that arguement has been exhausted . The only way I see Pacman KO 'ing Cotto is by cuts . I see Cotto by bodyshot or jawbreaking hooks . I can see Pac winning a decision because I think he has the better motor . I can also see Cotto winning a UD or SD by making Pac respect his power and dictating the pace by slowing him down . That's my take and how I feeeeeeel about it . In a nutshell I'm on the fence again . LOL . Hola at your boy . Dueces
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 02:24:08 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@Nobody, you mark my words, after Pacquiao wins this fight you and all of the non-believers will come back on here and say Cotto was shot from the get go. Those excuses are at a regularity, became more of a song really. @RealTalk, straight up as always great post.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:05:55 PM
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BoxingFan:
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Pacman is going to win by TKO in 10th.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:07:09 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Most of what has become one of our more brilliant threads is speculation. There are some facts that are indisputable. Cotto has always been...and is... the bigger man. Full stop. This is not an excuse if MP loses to Cotto. Both men entered into this agreement. It is also not a reason to diminish a potential Cotto victory....if it should occur. On the other hand, @ Radam, it is not necessarily a slight on a potential MP victory to call MC 'damaged' or 'diminished'. That is an opinion. Not a fact. Calling it as one sees it does not necessarily mean anything one way or another....in the event of MP coming up long or short. Both of these guys have been in wars. One day, opinion will be fact....and they will enter the ring 'less' than they were previously. As will we all. Now that is a God-given fact. @ #1 Pacfan. For the moment, I see this almost exactly as you describe/envision it. MP has spectacular power and accuracy, incredible body movement and ring intelligence. Whether it be Plan A or Plan B, I still see MP beating Cotto. The fun starts when both plans are shelved after MP takes Cotto's first shot....and vica versa. @ Real Talk. Man, I love that use of the word 'high octane'. That is going to be one...if not the...keys to victory. For sure. Also, I agree about Manny's 'motor' being superior. Great insights, great language. @ GOAT, Frazier-Ali I is too high a standard.....given the context of the times and the supreme fight for the Undisputed Heavyweight Championship at stake. They were also both undefeated (against everyone). In all due respect...and this is a huge comparison....it will have boxing status more like Hagler Hearns. BTW, where are (sorely missed) SOHK and Brownsugar on this monster battle.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:07:30 PM
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Yuvie:
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This is the dream fight. Again, props to Pac for taking this, he could have easily stayed at lightweight and fought guys like Marquez & Valero. Cotto is a tough challenge for Pacquiao, again, it's how Pac reacts if Cotto hits him, especially if he hits him down under. Personally, I've been thinking about this fight for the past 24 hours, I don't think Cotto will be busy enough to really put a dent in Pacquiao and I can see him drifting away, like he does, in the later rounds, setting Pacquiao up for the manilla ice, around the 9th round. As I said in a previous post, I'm a fan of Cotto, however, it'll be a shame to see Pacquiao lose this because Pacquiao/Mayweather is about as good as it gets as far as boxing significance is concerned.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:26:59 PM
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Real Talk @ #1 Pacfan & Feroz:
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Appreciate it , and your post were good too . This is one of the best forums I've been in , and red hot too !!! I'm glad I caught it and got to partake . Holla at me . Dueces
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:29:26 PM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite just_____:
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Wow! Fe'Roz told us. But let me say what I said once more, PacMan will kayo Cottodefeato in round four. Cotto is going to do his best, but he'll meet the fate of all the rest -- a PacMan conquest! Holla!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:36:20 PM
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For some reason when I read Fe'roz comment I read it hearing Jim Lampley's voice saying it . Funny.... @ Donputo69 , I don't know about that one . I'm gonna have to watch both fights back to back . They got the Gatti -Ward trilogy on demand .....Comcast . I'm about to throw some clothes in the washer and watch while on the treadmill . My lil mans E is in the halfway house . He came in the restaraunt all swoll up like he's been doing big pushups , pimping talking about he want to see me in the gym . :) I told 'em where my gym was and whenever he was ready . I got a feelig this is going to be a Tito vs. Fernando hehehe . He got a lil power and can wreck but I think he's about to bite off more than he can chew 8) . Plus it's a difference between regular strength and boxing strength , regular power and punching power . I know a dude who can bench 515 but can't stretch'em out . I aint sleeping on him though , but I'm confident in what's gonna happen . Dueces
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:46:35 PM
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Real Talk @ donputo69 :
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He's like 24 or something . I'm gonna give him a good lesson on how to respect his elders . LLS ....... Holla Back
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:49:37 PM
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P4P-Fan:
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MArk,
You got it backwards. PBF-Marquez announced their fight on the same day that Pacquiao fought Hatton. PBF and JMM could have waited until that's over if they really want to fight Pacman. They scheduled their fight originally July 2009 (this month) - too close to train for a fighter who's last bout was in May (only 2 months earlier). Then, they rescheduled for Sept. 2009 because of PBF's rib injury. The contract was already agreed on and signed by PBF and JMM. for July and now for Sept. so you're wrong in saying MP cannot wait. On the contrary, PBF and JMM could not wait.
Cotto is still dangerous, no doubt about it. This is going to be a great fight. I will root for Manny but if he loses against Cotto, I will still respect both fighters.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 03:54:21 PM
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ricosioting of Quezon city:
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Miguel was never the same again since his ill mannered win against Zab Judah....He low blowed Zab in the 2nd round..Imagine how much he was exposed by Zab's left hook..Miguels knee rock durin' the exchange...Yet cotto wins....That s a nasty instinct 4 miguel...So Manny BE VERY VERY CAREFUL of that Low blow and elbow......MIGUEL should be fighting Shane instead....to erase his lost to TONY...
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:04:21 PM
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FOS:
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LISTEN! Roach will stop the fight before Pacman get killed!!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:36:40 PM
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junior:
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i think cotto is faster and stronger than pac, remember he lost morales in thier first fight cotto hits harder and is more intelligent.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:42:37 PM
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Smiley C:
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PacMan is gonna tear Cottoman up like a cheap, sweaty suit. Fo' sure!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:46:57 PM
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halo-halo:
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all i know is that this fght wont go to distance.. and please please.. enough with the excuses.. these two are great fighters and theyll train for this fight really hard.. so whatever the outcome will be.. then let it be.. im rooting for MP but cotto is really dangerous as well.. by the way.. where is armando? havent read any of his stupid comments anymore..
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:56:06 PM
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AFN in Newcastle:
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Twice I've gone against Manny with the 'bigger man' wins theory, and twice I've been proven well wrong. Cotto is strong and accurate, intelligent and full of heart. Manny is reaching his peak IMO. I won't be putting it on the line until the last moment. As to PBF vs JMM, I've already put that one down three times. JMM will shock the world and reretire Moneyless Mayweather. Toonoy
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 04:57:33 PM
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halo-halo:
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all i know is that this fght wont go to distance.. and please please.. enough with the excuses.. these two are great fighters and theyll train for this fight really hard.. so whatever the outcome will be.. then let it be.. im rooting for MP but cotto is really dangerous as well.. by the way.. where is armando? havent read any of his stupid comments anymore..
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:01:56 PM
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Lt.Red:
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Cotto wiil be knocked downat round5 and out at round 8
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:02:12 PM
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MisterLee @ #1 the pac sage:
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I ain't sayin' manny is a DANCER, but i'ms aying if he WERE hurt, he COULD dance due to having better foot speed, at least until he recovers. I don't see him going toe to toe if he's hurt, that would be dumb, but he could go lateral, and counter, the straight left or the right hook tot he head might be key for manny (while cotto focuses on the body, he will leave the head open), AND roach is gonna exploit Cotto's weakness towards an uppercut. Manny gonna "Shour yu ken" his A$$! HOlla!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:17:17 PM
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MisterLee @ #1 the pac sage:
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Manilla Ice, Lead Left, and the Dragon Pinoy Fist! ("its nothing personal")
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:17:59 PM
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ultimoshogun@MisterLee:
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Gotta love the "Street Fighter" reference....all time classic fighting game.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:23:36 PM
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Real Talk Gatti vs. Ward II rd 3 don't blink !!!:
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Man Micky Ward is one tough MF !!!!!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:26:00 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@MMLee, none takin at all. I forgot about the uppercut, hey that could be a key punch for this fight. Judah landed a huge uppercut on Cotto that opened up a huge cut on his lips. Roach will definitely come up with a great gameplan. Great job MMLee.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 05:48:37 PM
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MisterLee:
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@ #1 pac sage: no offense taken or given, i was quoting the man himself "i'm just doing my job, i'm a fighter, it's nothing personal". Nah man, you and radam, i'll defend to the death... and the roast! dun worry! Pple, even if Cotto has a GREAT chance at winning, don't forget, b/c hatton did: 1.) Pacquiao is TOO fast for anyone over 130 2.) He punches as hard if not harder than margarito according to chief sparring partner Holloway 3.) He has the fastest feet between featherweight to welterweight (made for in and out of course, not the Tour de france) 4.) He is a complete fighter, in game out game, boxing and moving countering, offering angles, lead lefts, counter right hooks, body work, good ring intelligence, decent defense 5.) Pacquiao is one of the strongest finishers in the sport: just ask Barrera, morales, diaz, de la hoya, hatton, etc. It will be exciting. If cotto can't hurt pacquiao by round 3,or round 6 the latest, he gonna have a LONG night (or short night), once pacquiao smells blood, all the pile drivers, rare naked chokes, spinning pile drivers,holding punch button for 10 secs and release, Dempsey rolls aint' gonna be enough to hold off the Pinoy Dragon Fist. Cotto is strong and flawed, pacquiao is dangerous and small, it'll be a great fight until someone falls, the boxing audience will have a ball, #1 pac sage has never felt a loss, pacquiao is his own boss, after cotto loses his career will be up in a toss, and floyd gonna hone in and get some money to floss, mosley gonna be out in the cold shopping at ROSS, and marquez will be reduce to sauce, and ward will win the round robin even tho it don't rhyme. pc! :)
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 06:40:11 PM
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MisterLee adds..:
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Andre ward 2009!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 06:41:30 PM
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Real Talk 5 miles in the books today:
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Just got finished watching the entire Gatti vs. Ward trilogy . Gatti broke his hand like in the second or third rd and kept throwing it . He looked like he was starting to slow down in the 3rd. rubber match though . Jim Lampley was crying before he spoke . You could tell, and see the hurt on his face and in his eyes . Now I think I'll watch Juan Ma vs. Penalosa or Corrales vs. Castillo 1 . I don't think it'll change my opinion of Fight of the Century . Dueces
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:12:26 PM
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Fe'Roz @ Real Talk:
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Tough as Gatti and Ward were.....I'm still in awe of Corrales. I don't think you can ever......outside of Hollywood.... beat that fight for pure drama. BTW, how did that Tito lesson go with young Fernando? @ Mister Lee, You've said it all.......and still got in the last punch with your boy, Andre Ward. You left us speechless.....as in 'without speech'....on sheer volume and solid connects.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:25:25 PM
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Marco Polo@MisterLee:
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Can i add at your number 6? MP used to spar taller and bigger guys.. I think his aware and maybe he already felt some of their power. His sparring partner dont hold back coz Roach said. if they knock out or knock down pac his sparring partner will get a couple of thousand bucks.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:36:35 PM
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Marco Polo@MisterLee:
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I Really love this site. @ Editor Mike, im a web programmer i can enhanced this site or add some features or design if you want. il do it for free.Hehe.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:40:20 PM
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MisterLee:
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@ MP (not manny pacquiao), marco: you can add whatever you want! I feel no one has a monopoly on knowledge, and i feel this more every time we discuss GOAT's and history, and i know about as much as a kindergartner vs. a Ph. D candidate. You guys exaggerate, i'm just a keyboard nerd putting in my two cents. We all contribute something, so let's not worry about the compliments and let's get some boxing talk. Ya'll awesome! pc out! TSS rules! :)
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:48:34 PM
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Marco Polo@MisterLee::
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Actually i already added my number 6.about mp sparred with bigger guys.I just love boxing, i dont know how pac do it fighting bigger guys.. because back in college (when im not afraid and think of my future). I find it hard to fight bigger guys than me. Nway hope you people heard about matt korobov. I think his gonna attain sumtin big in the near future.. a southpaw and has power on both hands.
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 08:58:53 PM
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MisterLee @ MP:
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Sounds good! never heard of him. will look him up this week! thanks!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 09:57:57 PM
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Real Talk @ Feroz:
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I have to wait until the weekend when he comes out of the half way house . I know what's gonna happen though , he's gonna get the shock of his life when he feels a couple of these joints . He's got power and is a brawler , I'm going to pick him apart . I can take a shot and give one . I can switch up . When I was younger I fought orthodox but I'm a southpaw . When I got a little older I taught myself to fight southpaw . He's got problems hehehe . I'm gonna have him eating jabs , straight left/right hook combos , etc. I'm gonn take him in deep water and drown him , that's if he doesn't get cold feet . Dueces
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 10:40:59 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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You got me...punches in bunches...spittin it overwhelmingly...finisher not a snoozer and that's it. Fe'Roz, looks like F-Lo is also envisioning it like us. Good stuff!
Wednesday Jul 22, 2009 11:09:49 PM
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matrix:
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yes george!!!! you are definitely correct. people!! don't spend a single dime in pbf vs jmm fight in pay per view shit it's just a waste of money. so that this dirty speakin gayweather would shut his mouth and come to realize that he aint the best fighter but a great looser !!!!!!!!
Thursday Jul 23, 2009 02:55:31 AM
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PaulyPR:
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I am sick and tired of hearing that fighters look faded or past their time when they are fighting the best in their divisions. There is a reason why fighters in a upper level make other upper-level fighters look different....because they are good!
Marquez fought a very good fighter in Diaz and Cotto fought a very good fighter in Clottey who weighs 170 lbs fight night. If Cotto fights Gomez..mismatch....if he fights Clottey...he's fading. Give me a break.
Same thing was said about Mosley after he fought Forrest and Winky and lost. Then Cotto fought him and people said Mosley would mose because of his age. Nobody expected him to beat Margarito...he was a tune-up for Christ Sake..supposedly. Now all you critics jump back-on the Mosley bandwagon and put him atop the pound4pound ratings..even above Cotto who beat him and has fought the best welterwieghts these past two years.
Nov 14 will tell us who is fading!!!!!
Thursday Jul 23, 2009 07:14:55 AM
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Pilipino Boy:
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Pacman will enter sage mode and destroy cotto.
Si aling dionisia daw kakanta ng bayang magiliw
Thursday Jul 23, 2009 08:01:11 AM
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Unbiased:
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I'm a HUGE boxing fan, and kinda pride myself as unbiased. I don't have a "favorite" fighter per say, but lean towards Pac-man. He reminds me of a cross of Roberto Duran and Aaron Pryor, with Duran being my ultimate favorite. Off-topic, I just want to make it clear that PAC, IMHO won the 2nd fight by 1 round. But to be to fair to JMM, If not for the 2 knockdowns in the first fight, JMM would've won.
Now to Cotto/Pacquiao. I see it being stopped either my Cotto's corner or the ref. Manny has too much speed, power, footwork, and angles. Cotto has to set his feet to throw his power punches. Manny simply is a moving target, who can throw his power combo's anytime. Pacquiao by tko inside 10 rounds
-peace
Thursday Jul 23, 2009 06:02:47 PM
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Albert:
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Pacman, like in the video game, will finish his opponents that comes in his way whoever they are (a Mexican, an American, a British, and soon a Puerto Rican...). With the Pacman's talent and even improving skills will surely have the advantages. And for those who says that the Pacman beat a slow Diaz, dehydrated Dela Hoya, an overrated Hatton, you just can't accept that an Asian fighter, specifically a great Filipino, can stage such performances and be regarded as Greatest Fighter today and even All-Time! Stop making excuses. And to JMM vs PBF, I don't think it will sell (UFC's card on the same date will crushed them in PPV), and the winner will not have any good leverage to negotiate for a favorable purse split against the Pacman. For the November fight, I go for the Pacman in 6 rounds! Filipino Pride!
Sunday Jul 26, 2009 12:47:12 AM
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Juan R:
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Come on cotto is too strong for pacquiao.. and Every body knows Marquez beat pacuiao in boths fights
Sunday Jul 26, 2009 08:19:52 AM
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jing:
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Kudos to you pacquiao for fighting at 145 lbs. you're so brave to fight cotto even at 145 lbs. For Cotto, he's so afraid even to go down to 143 or 144. just 3-4 lbs down? pacman is going up 5 lbs from 140.... so if you say so at 145.... don't be afraid to stake your WBO belt. It MUST be a title fight. It will be a great fight in boxing history, you know!!!!
Thursday Jul 30, 2009 12:33:56 AM
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rain29:
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to all cotto fans and to all critics of pacman gather out all your moneys in the pocket and in the bank. Sell out all your properties, bet them all for cotto, lets see how tough u are people!! I'll be betting $3million for pacman. I will not be saying more, lets just settle in longmouthed critics of pacquiao!!!!!!!
Thursday Aug 6, 2009 12:00:33 AM
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duayne:
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when MP perfected his right blow and as i review his fights, it started against Diaz.... Decisions of judges will be unanimous for MP if a match with Marquez will happen again.... or a TKO... but never a draw or split again.
Friday Aug 7, 2009 02:59:57 AM
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glenn:
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paquiao will knock down cotto in one punch only, only one punch no toe to toe like cotto margarito fight, margarito doesn't have the power like paquiao has....that's it
Saturday Aug 8, 2009 09:18:04 PM
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sangkutsa:
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Pacman / Morales / Cotto / Maywheather .. watch out Erik Morales is coming back. He is the one who can beat Pacquiao
Tuesday Aug 25, 2009 11:16:08 AM
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boy bisaya:
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i do believe in PACMANS power to beat all the boxers. as bob arum says after the ricky hatton fight " PACMAN IS THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD EVER LIVED" record shows, who is erik morales, juan manuel marquez, dela hoya, hatton maybe the next are miguel cotto, floyd mayweather jr....... LETS JUST SEE THE SCATTER (in bisaya 'kitaon nalang nato ang katag')
Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 04:42:10 AM
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Bambam:
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Damaged should be returned to seller. Remember, in sales, there's warranty against hidden defects. Ayt?
Anyway, Pacman in 10 rounds. You know? Now you know.
Thursday Sep 17, 2009 04:43:44 AM
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elcastigador:
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Cotto's size is an advantage that Pacman's team is considering and I'm sure they're doing their homework on how to neutralize this size difference when he comes inside the ring. I believe Pacman has the skills to accumulate more points come boxing day or simply make Cotto hit the canvas. Yet I'm not belittling Cotto's stamina and boxing skills.It is still anybody's game. I still root for Pac. And to the self-proclaimed Pinoy cum Seer (Anony), I have a suggestion that can make you filthy rich. I suggest you sell all your properties and bet against Pac. The odds are against Cotto and you'll win more than double. You can even upload on youtube everything like selling everything you got and when Cotto wins. You'll be rich, people will adore and even worship you, and I hope you'll give me 10% tip. And besides, in boxing, you'll have 50% chance to be right, but with your gift seeing it 100% sure, you'll make tons of money.
Saturday Sep 19, 2009 03:50:06 AM
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Skywalker:
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Pacman will KO Cotto - 3rd Round
Monday Sep 28, 2009 06:18:22 AM
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jeremy:
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dont expect too much on MP's victories against good boxers.Barr.Morales,Hatton,Delahoya,JMM,if you studied these fightsMorales and JMM punished Pac severelyif means skills are important in this fight.Barrera on his partis retiringDiaz is a pushover,Delahoya is going for Money not for victory,Hatton on the other hand,,,,,by the way who is Hatton?is he a great fighter?i doubt it.Hatt.became talk of the town when he fought Mayweather other than that nothing..so dont be blinded by Pac's victories against these guys.Cotto is different in many ways his size,skills,hard puncher,and great stamina and most of all he many strong and skilled fighters,he outdone the speed of Mossley,Juddah and others,yes his bloddied when he foght clootey but not by punch but headbut now think wisely,Mossley vs. Pac,Juddah vs Pac,Clootey Vs Pac what do you think?......or Cotto vs JMM, cotto vs Barr. Cottovs. Hatton, cotto vs Diaz or Morales,Be not just a pilipino but be realistic
Thursday Oct 1, 2009 12:09:26 PM
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jeremy:
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one thing more remember the 2 losts of Pac not to mention Morrales it was a knockdown against a pilipino and thai boxers,and the against an Australian boxer he was knockdown in the middle rds but stop the fight because of head collission,and the fight was really,really ???? ,my point here is that Pac chin is also ????ne did not fought a hard hitting boxers up to now.....But Cotto will have this....comes Nov. 14
Thursday Oct 1, 2009 12:22:49 PM
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ersatz:
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he'll be caught to pac's typhoon punch.. we'll see..
Thursday Nov 5, 2009 11:16:41 AM
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gregg:
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cotto cannot beat pacquiao!!!even mayweather jr can`t wen pacquiao!!pacman can beat cotto in 2 rounds!!pacman is great pound for pound king!!!
Saturday Nov 7, 2009 12:44:43 AM
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joel:
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very short message for those who say... a fight for marquez again would make pacquiao in the hall of fame. bad news seems they don't know what hall of fame exactly means. come to think of it if marquez can really beat manny why he didn't make it. Guys they are all professionals in fireld of boxing and theres no way for mistakes. 1 is ok 2 is enough and 3 oopsssss....fight with someone else man........
Monday Nov 9, 2009 05:19:44 AM
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Bello Ferolino:
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Pacman has a heart,skill,power and above all,God.He will knock out Cotto after 7th round and prove to the world what he can do to the bigger man like Cotto.
Monday Nov 9, 2009 06:32:12 AM
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kit:
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Both Pac and Cotto fans keep talking smack about the other, it's effin' irritating and blatantly annoying. The only difference between the 2 is how I see them reacting after the fight once or IF their fighter loses.
If Pac loses, Pac fans would simply (and finally?) shut up.
If Cotto loses, you'll hear nothing else but excuses like:
1) the catch weight ("Oh he shouldn't have dropped down to 145, if Manny's that great, he should've fought Cotto at 146/147...blah blah")
2) he's damaged goods ("Oh Cotto wasn't at 100% after his lost with Margo and Clottey... blah blah")
...the same thing what happened to DLH and Hatton (excuses, excuses). Now, what's funny is that Cotto fans claim (& blame) the Pacman fans of being the ones who're coming up with these disses. But from what I've noticed in A LOT of blogs & forums is that its the Cotto fans themselves who are making them. What's even more funny is that they're already making these excuses even BEFORE the actual fight! Good grief! If they're so confident that Cotto will win then why make up all these excuses? Hayayay.
Wednesday Nov 11, 2009 09:45:14 PM
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Jannoey:
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COTTO, a standing target for pacman :P~
Thursday Nov 12, 2009 08:19:08 PM
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seven:
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Pacman will win for sure. Pacman rules.
Saturday Nov 14, 2009 10:34:36 PM
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willbill:
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so where are those now, who are saying that cotto will beat pacquiao... :D:D:D
Saturday Nov 14, 2009 11:40:31 PM
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haha:
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let the excues for the cotto lost begin.
Saturday Nov 14, 2009 11:59:17 PM
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nakedface:
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pacman won.. yey.
Sunday Nov 15, 2009 12:20:33 AM
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Nelson:
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Hey you Cotto fans!!!! Especially to donputo69, you still there???!!! How about a big ovation for our Pacman!!!! .....How come there's no Cotto fans here on........Mannnn, I think they flew away like flies feeling sorry for what they babbled early on 'coz they're eating them right now. Sweeettt, very sweeeeeett win. The best of all, ALL Filipino fans went to bed with a smile on their face savoring the very sweeet victory of Manny. To be fair with Cotto though, he does have a lot of courage to face Pacquiao though, so, I commend him with that. ;-)
Sunday Nov 15, 2009 05:46:27 PM
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