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Flash Forward : "And the 2011 SSWBC Winner Is...."
By Phil Woolever
A LAND OF COMMON SENSE - Showtime and multiple promotional entities unveiled their already much appreciated outline of what could be another bolstering boost for the industry when the "Super Six World Boxing Classic" was formally announced Monday. The six participants introduced comprise a strong enough field to legitimize the format's mission of establishing an undisputed 168 pound division kingpin.
The six-pack of primo performers, three from the US and three from Europe, almost guarantees most of the fights will be very interesting. Over the approximately two year punching project, audiences can get further HD insight into each personality in what immediately seems like the best scenario in the history of the division.
Only Carl Froch and Jermain Taylor have faced others in the draw, when Froch rallied to a come from behind final round stoppage over Taylor for the WBC title. Other than that, it's uncharted territory at the top of the hill for everyone involved.
The point system used to determine a fighter's relative position gives 2 points for a win (with an extra point for knockouts), and 1 point for a draw.
If the tournament goes safety first and develops into cases of fighters going for sure points and fighting "not to lose,"the odds of more than a couple draws happening over the projected span of a definitive dozen duke outs are around 50-50. A common philosophy of going for the knockout seems more likely at the start.
While there are always surprises possible, here's the call on what to expect through the series' conclusion, currently scheduled to wrap up around May of 2011.
One fighter will have to be replaced before the tournament's second stage begins. One decision will be controversial enough to prompt a serious review and possibly mandated rematch.
But let's not spoil any surprises. We'll proceed as the tournament is currently laid out. Recent personal predictions put this in the "every blind hog gets an ear of corn sometime" sweepstakes.
Each entrant will be lined up to meet three different opponents over "Group Stages". After those preliminary nine lives have been cataloged, the fistic final four with the most points go on, which leads us to yet unspecified bracketology for the entire tournament, with final match ups to be determined by previous tournament fight results.
The series kicks off on October 10 in a twin-site broadcast, opening with 2004 US Olympic bronze medalist Andre Dirrell, 18-0 (13) meeting hometown hero Froch, 25-0 (20) in his backyard of Manchester, UK. That kickoff will be followed by Arthur Abraham's home court clash with Taylor, set for a new O2 Arena on the outer fringes of Berlin.
Defending WBC titlist Froch will be faced with a considerable task in how well can get through Dirrell's southpaw stance, and won't solve the puzzle until it's too late. Dirrell will present him with enough angles to nullify Froch's aggression. Dirrell should be able to slickly stick his way to a controversial decision. Froch will press all the action and mount a rally down the stretch but Dirrell will render most of the assault ineffective, and hang on for a close, perhaps split-decision win.
The tourney's first big surprise comes when Taylor, 28-3-1 (17), shocks Abraham in a toe to toe whapathon that should spell a win for the visitor but results in Taylor having to settle for a draw. Taylor charges out, more psyched up to be fighting in Germany than in Arkansas, and almost stops Abraham before three rounds are completed, in one-sided action that might have been halted elsewhere. Abraham, 30-0 (24) will rally and get Taylor in serious trouble, but Taylor will look bigger and stronger overall. Scoring will be too questionable to grant Taylor the deserved upset, but Abraham, who gave up his IBF 160 lb laurels prior to participating, will no longer be one of the tournament favorites.
The remaining first round fight is set to commence on November 7th as WBA kingpin and a pre-tournament favorite Mikkel Kessler, 41-1 (31) defends against '04 Olympic gold medalist Andre Ward, 19-0 (12) in Ward's Oakland stomping grounds. At 25, Ward is the youngest competitor in the tournament, but his Olympic experience alone takes care of that. Ward heard criticism that he was overly cautious and took too long to dispose of a faded Edison Miranda, but since that win helped him here, you can't question his results.
That approach works like a dream for Ward against the touted Kessler, who may have let rust settle in after his disappointment against Joe Calzaghe. Ward will play the unwilling warrior and pick a few moments to score points, while Kessler sleepwalks just enough to let a probable victory slip away.
At the end of the first round grouping the scores will be:
Dirrell and Ward 2
Taylor and Abraham 1
Froch and Kessler 0
The initial 2010 Group Stage should see Abraham versus Dirrell at a US location in January. Abraham, embarrassed by the near debacle against Taylor, rebounds by showing up in a career best form and steamrolls Dirrell around the ring. Dirrell manages to flop his way to safety enough to make the final bell in a sloppy but entertaining scrap. Except for a couple early frames where Abraham is too reckless trying to start faster, it's pretty much a shutout for the German visitor.
For Froch's and Kessler's subsequent date, probably March somewhere in Europe, Denmark may host since word is UK television funding is at a minimal stage lately. That could also mean one of the fight friendly flagships of German TV will broadcast another big fight in Deutschland. Location becomes a footnote formality as Kessler and Froch, both smarting from earlier detours, will engage in what becomes the series' first true classic.
Kessler weathers an early storm after they trade splattering knockdowns and comes back to leave Froch collapsed and drooling on the strands. The fight last less than six rounds. Both men are barely conscious of who and where they are after the fight.
Not too long into springtime after that, Taylor and Ward meet stateside for what becomes a sloppy slog in hugland. Ward abandons any offense as Taylor presses the action just enough to take an unpopular decision as both fighters look confused and unmotivated.
Scoring after second Group Stages:
Abraham, Kessler and Taylor 3
Dirrell and Ward 2
Froch 0
The summer session/third Group Stage unfolds like this:
Ward - Dirrell is a chess match with pillows and by far the most lackluster fight of the tournament until the final few rounds. Both men wake up and create highlight reel exchanges, but Ward pocketed every point in the first half of the contest and has a lead he does not relinquish, despite Dirrell emerging as a go-for-broke brawler, who ironically ends up a fan favorite.
Froch has the summertime blues against Abraham at a European venue, once again probably near Abraham's TV dollar driveway. Faithful fans pack the building and this is the kind of fight "King Arthur" likes, with a willing foe that's right in front of him. Froch knows he only has one chance and tries to take a shootout. He lands some clean shots early that might have done something on another night in another place, but tonight Abraham is a tank and rolls over Froch before the 9th.
Back on American shores, Kessler meets Taylor in a battle of current leaders. Taylor looks ready when he starts on his toes and leads early behind the jab, but slowly and surely Kessler just grinds Taylor up in a fight that starts wild then slows down when Taylor runs out of gas by the 10th. It's all Taylor can do to last the distance and deny Kessler a crucial KO point.
So, after the completed primary slugging sessions are concluded, the point stand is at:
Abraham 6
Kessler 5
Ward 4
Taylor 3
which eliminates Dirrell with 2 points and Froch with 0.
This will lead to January 2011, a new duking decade (with boxing still alive and well, big surprise) and a pair of opening group rematches in which familiarity breeds concussive contempt.
Abraham is the only man among three other starters to remain undefeated, but most observers feel that slate should be different after the first fight with Taylor. Now, Abraham tries to make a justifying statement, and this time it's Taylor who's in deep trouble early in their second fight. For six rounds it looks like Abraham is close to a knockout, but Taylor seems to grow before the eyes of the crowd and what first seemed like glancing gloves start to land hard and straight on Abraham's kisser. Abraham suddenly looks vulnerable and Taylor pounces with a fabulous five punch flurry that leaves Abraham defenseless for a stunning TKO in the 11th.
Kessler and Ward meet a weekend later, with the opposite type result as both play it safe while the crowd boos. Ward stays on his toes and Kessler tries to follow suit. Kessler can't land many punches, while Ward doesn't throw many that are more than defensive jabs. Ward boxes well enough to build a slim lead on the scorecards initially, but his lack of offense costs him as Kessler keeps marching forward without cutting off the ring and squeaks by to earn an uninspired split-decision by one point.
Which brings us to our championship, sometime in the summer of '11. It's going to be Jermain Taylor against Mikkel Kessler in a surprising, anyone's fight type thriller that becomes a fan favorite and cements the tournament's appeal. The location is not NY or Vegas but Copenhagen, which lights up for the event.
Both teams form a strategy based on waiting the other guy out. Both training camps spend months practicing well conditioned pacing that should get them ready to remain fresh, unscarred, and set to fire away and capture the crown during the anticipated final three rounds, or roughly the closing nine minutes of the tournament.
Instead, each man gets his bell rung immediately in the opening exchange and abandons those plans. There are frequent clinches, but action is back, forth, and furious. Taylor jumps ahead but Kessler catches up. The defining difference occurs around the tenth frame while they're wrestling against the ropes, when a knockdown is ruled against Taylor that looks to many like a slip.
That point is crucial as Kessler captures the 168 pound title with a dramatic split decision that has global fans asking for more, even if it means putting the championship on hold for another round robin.
Time flies when you're having fun.
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Fistic Fury:
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I'd bet my balls you're nowhere near...
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 08:59:31 AM
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the good doctor:
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I have no idea who is going to win but I do know tha Jermain Taylor needs a good showing very badly. If he gets blasted in this tournament as he has lately, his career is ova!!
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 09:50:47 AM
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ali:
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Pavlik is talking $hit about the tounrament, major hater... He said they did'nt invite him and he would'nt have accepted if they did. He's say's that for the type of money their making it's stupid and that nobody watches fights on Showtime cause all the great fighter are on HBO Major Hater. He thinks that who ever wins is going to HBO and after they beat each other up he would be glad to move up and fight them. You won't get any brownie points with me going about it that way. I would have love to see him apart of this tournment. But ever sense B-hop whoop his ass he and his team has been acting like they scared to step up the competition
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 10:11:15 AM
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brownsugar:
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ali,..your right,... seems like Pavlik has become somewhat of a bitter hater since his loss to Bhop,.. if he was never exposed,.. he most certainly would have asked to attend,... but it really seems out of Character for him to cast down major criticizm on 6 of the best super middleweights in world,... It's like someone over heard him talking when he didn't know the microphone was on...
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 11:35:03 AM
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brownsugar:
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Phil,.. that was an interesting turn of events,. and anything can happen when the quality of the participants are all on or near the Elite level,...But even though Kessler has had 41 fights,.. only 2 of his victims are noteworthy,.. personally I think he's overrated,.. maybe I'll go youtube to get a better look at him,... Abrahms is likely to gain strength and fight with more urgency than we've seen him do lately,.. (where he just waits behind the peek a boo and tries to ambush his foes),...Can Taylor finally fix his broken stamina?? maybe he will surprise everybody,..is Dirrell just one punch away from being exposed,.. personally I think that guys can improve their ability to absorb punishment if they train just hard,.. and I'm Hoping Dirrell will "Level Up" to the competition,.. Ward vs Taylor is interesting,... Ward was actually trying to get fight with Glenn Johnson and Taylor before the Opportunity with Miranda opened up,.. and don't forget that Ward jumped up a whole weight class in the Olympics so Ward could fight at middleweight,.. Ward definitely has the inner strenght... and could fight at light heavy if need be.... I still can't call it,...Somebody show me a Sign,....
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 12:00:01 PM
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AFN in Newcastle:
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Pavlik will be lucky to be boxing on the Disney Channel let alone HBO. I don't think HBO will try and sabbotage this BTW, but if ratings appear to be good they might try and copy it. Hope Showtime do a multi personality 24/7 type of thing to go with this. I like the idea a fighter can lose two fights and stil have chance to go through with a KO. My choice has to be the King. Abraham will rule the 168s after 2011, and Pavlik will be guesting on Hannah Montanah. Wuss. Toonoy
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 12:11:04 PM
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Natalia Estemirova, RIP:
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I have to go with Andre Ward in this tourney. I just hope it can run its course without any hiccups. I've never really heard Pavlik talk trash, so I'm not sure what to think of that.
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 12:18:44 PM
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the good doctor:
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Good points AFN. I could see HBO trying to do this in 135-147 range. If they made the pot rich enough they could get at least a 12 man tournament together. PBF, Pac, Cotto, MargaCheato, Paul, Shane, JMM, Diaz, Berto, Clottey, Bradley, Kotelnik, Holt, Valero and a host of others could be matched up to comprise it. That would be disgusting.
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 12:34:55 PM
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Master Snake:
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Nice piece of fiction, Phil "pull-the-wool-over-your-own-eyes-not-mine" Woolever. The way you write you may as well predict the future of the world up to the year 3000! Anyway, this tournament is a first! I hope all of the contestants can stay dedicated and fit to fight it out to the end. All of these guys are top notch. I'll predict only this: Taylor will exhibit renewed hunger and desire in the ring; Froch will get out boxed and age before your eyes against younger fighters; Kessler and Abraham will box in a true classic; and two young fighters - Ward and Dirrell - will grow and develop into fantastic fighters. This is boxing; the ultimate outcome can be decided by the equivalent of a half-court, last-second shot. But I think a guy with super boxing skills will hoist the trophy in the end. So, I'm gonna predict Andre Ward to win it all and realize his full potential.
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 01:29:47 PM
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GOAT:
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As a fan of boxing, I think the tourney is great, but if I was managing one of these fighters, I would think it was terrible. EVERYONE is going to have at least 4 or 5 really hard fights, the type that ruins fighters. Even the eventual winner will not be the same. This is not MMA where they fight 3 five minute rounds or something like that, or when they can quit (tap out) and still keep their dignity. This will be 12 rounds per fight with the best in the division again and again and again etc. As I said before, I'm excited as a fan but I will not hate on any manager who doesn't like the idea. Also, has anyone read anything about the purses? How much will each fighter make for the fights?
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 01:39:04 PM
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brownsugar:
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GOAT,... you bring up a good point and ask some very good questions,....and I would agree if these guys were fighting every couple of weeks,.. but there will be 3-4 months between fights,..this is the profession these men chose,.. to Fight,..... in Robinsons' era they fought every month,.. sometimes twice a month,... those guys fought so regularly and fought so many rematches that no one had an "O" on thier records,... and that's the way it should be rather than having some prima-donna trying to cherry-pick his way to the HOF while the title collects dust 6 to 10 months at a time,.. Also this is job security,.. no trolling the market for available opponents or getting involved with unnecessary drama,.. the schedule is laid out,.. just show up for your fight,,... and the checks in the mail.... the fighters get paid regularly,.. which provides a sense of peace and security,..now they can make plans based on their projected earnings,...... even if they lose they don't LOSE THEIR JOB,.. and their managers are content to know they have their boxers booked for a year and a half in advance... as far as health issues,.. IRON Sharpens IRON,.. these guys should be better not worse,... except in the case of Taylor who should be thinking about another line of employment should he suffer more KO losses...FINALLY these guys aren't exactly getting multimillion dollar offers... ESPECIALLY FIGHTING the bum caibur guys that we frequently see them getting matched with (with the exception of Froch/Taylor),,, But I can see how,..Face Fighter Extrordiniare Kelly Pavlik would complain,.. as it's well known he gets hit on a regular basis,..by the better class boxers,.. and has to depend on his chin to win... but yeah,.. it would definitely be a nightmare for managers like Jack Loew,.... or anybody who has a vunerable fighter to look after...
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 04:19:15 PM
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MisterLee:
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Come on guys, you make it seem like these guys will all retire after this tourney. Don't complain, in an age when EVERY champion avoids every other champion (don't get me started on the welterweight division, DIVISion is right), this is a blessing. GOAT- I have the feeling you don't or haven't watched that many MMA matches. MMA fighters get wear and tear too, seen Chuck Liddell's consecutive knockout losses to Quinton Jackson, then Evans, then Shogun Rua? The last one sealing his career and his battered chin (with 2 oz gloves!). Don't give me the MMA guys "have it easy". As with the article, I could not have disagreed more. It is inferred in the article that somehow Ward is a soft boxer, who likes to judge and keep his distance, did you see ward miranda round 7 or 9, one of which Ward BROUGHT the fight to miranda on the inside and dominated? And I think Kessler is very good but not great. Abraham, dirrell, and ward could emerge great in this tournament. I think froch has a wild card chance, i think taylor will gas out with these $3 gas prices! Also, anybody think it's significant, I saw a photoshoot video on youtube, and it appears abraham is 2-3 inches shorter than every fighter minus ward (ward was sick and did not attend). Will this be significant? I feel abraham has the most physical strength. We will see. Pc out! Andre ward 09! :)
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 05:21:13 PM
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the Roast:
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I feel Jermain Taylor will get knocked out every time he fights no matter who it is. He's done. This tourney is a good idea but it would be alot easier if they just got eight men and did single elimination.
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 07:59:41 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Whatever it's flaws, this tourney is better than the alternatives; None at all and/or more ofthe same! It entices fighters to make commitments Now to fight,. It gets fans excited about fights that are pre-0scheduled and have a better chance of happening. It prevents the usual dodging, negotiating in bad faith and various other reasons to avoid and/or escape from fights that should be made ....and that we want to see. I already have the comfort of knowing that the next years we will in fact get to see these guys fight. No more Kessler management issues....or Abraham thinking but not acting to move to 168. Sorry Kelly. You have to re-earn our respect and confidence! In the meantime, start by respecting these fighters....and chose and beat a legit one yourself. Not Mora. In the words of Dundee in Sugar Rays' corner vs. Hearns: You're blowin' it kid. you're blowin' it.
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 08:29:01 PM
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MisterLee @ the Roast:
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Maybe, however, if it were single elimination, we would not be able to see multiple match ups with multiple opponents. This is like seeing great prize fighting without the ducking and negotiation disputes. Taylor Ward or ward dirrell would be a winner! Plus, with all honesty, kessler and ward are two of the best fighters in the tournament, and to see one eliminated so quickly b/c of stiff competiton would be a little disheartening. I feel they both could give the touranment a run for the money. I feel dirrell and taylor will both get exposed in this tournament. This leaves ward, abraham, froch, and kessler. i feel abraham and froch both have decent flaws in their styles, so technically ward and kessler are the best boxers and have the most well-rounded arsenals, BUT, i wouldn't count out abraham at any point, or even froch. I still feel: 1.) ward 2.) abraham 3.) Froch 4.) kessler. we'll see what happens!
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 08:30:30 PM
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This Tourney is a straight up Rock,..Papers,..Scizzors scenario,.. I saw some footage of Kessler on youtube,.. about 6 fights total,.. his jab doesn't have nearly the snap and pop of a Jermaine Taylor jab,.. and he slows down and gets confused when presented with different angles,.. I see Andre Ward being having too much "science" in his repetiore for Kessler to beat him,.. Ward will touch Kessler all night while setting up some beautiful straight hands,.. Ward is tremendous strategist and won't be as emotional as he was against Miranda,... I think Froch could walk right thru Kessler,.. as Kessler doesn't look good backing up,... but I see Abraham Knocking FRoch out with his powerfully explosive punching against Frochs' sometime careless defense,.. truly a Rock,.. Paper,.. Scizzors,..affair,..... and Ward potentially has the rock,..papers and scizzors against each one,.. although I feel he should use extreme caution against Abrahms who can turn a fight with one good punch...props to everybody elses predictions,.. this could turn out all kinds of ways....
Wednesday Jul 15, 2009 09:11:44 PM
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GOAT @ bronwsugar:
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You bring up a good point about how the old timmers would easily fight once a month or so, BUT we now know what happens to fighters who fight to long and to often, they are mentally deteriorate. If you look a Robinson, Joe Lewis, Ali and some of the old timmers who either fought too long or too often, it is painful to see them in their condition. They gave the fans great wars but at what expense. Even though I do not like Oscar, I think he is a great example of how to have a career in boxing but get out before taking too much punishment. The eventual winner will be a damaged fighter before 30 due to the 5 or so tough fights. If the Pittsburg Steelers and Baltimore Ravens played each other 16 times and one of them was fortunate enough to make the playoffs, they would be too beat up to win a title. It's good to have a game against a bad team every now and then to prolong your season (or in boxing your career). I still like Ward to win it but he will not be the same fighter after the tourney.
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 06:18:44 AM
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Megarodon:
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I'm really surprised everyone is picking Froch to lose all the bouts and come out of it with 0 points..
Yes he didnt look great against Taylor, but he knocked him out anyways... Froch is big, durable, strong, and more athletic SOB than Librado Andrade - And keep in mind Andrade would give some of the guys in this tournament PURE HELL.
All I can say is NO WAY Taylor is gonna win it.
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 08:50:05 AM
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GOAT,... surely,.. you do speak well,.. and with excellent examples,.. but for ever Ray Robinson,..Ali and Louis,.. there's 2 more Carmen Basillo's,.. Gene Fulmers and Jake Lamotta's who used their faces as a 3rd blocking hand,... but were stil making TV appearances and doing talk shows,..when they were into their Eightys',.. even 200 plus career fights veteran,.. and former light heavy champ Archie Moore nabbed a 5 year part in the Young and Restless,.. Daytime Soap Opera,.. playing a sage boxing coach when he was in his SEVENTIES,..Moore boxed untill he was in his 50's ....... so more fights don't necessarily mean more damage,.. it depends on the fighter,.. Pacqiaou has seen numerous wars,.. yet still improves in every fight,.. while Vets like Calzaghe and Bhop never got beat up in the ring,.. you paint a picture like these guys will emerge DAMAGED GOODS,.. standing on their last legs,.. I believe the tournamant might produce another Hagler,..Graziano or Monzon,...sure,.... on or two of these guys might be rendered complete bums(that was going to happen anyway),.. but thats' aways one of the fates of boxing,.. if it were safe sport,... everybody would do it and it would'nt pay a dime,.... but each man in the tournament can lay claim to promoting courage,... valor,.. and the revolutionary type of competitiveness,.. that's been considered absent from the sport since the 50's thru the 70's,... I know I probably won't change your mind,.. but try to look at the benefits,.. and there are many....peace...
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 04:16:54 PM
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Chef Boya-Lee grilling crow:
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I gots Froch exposing dirrell in October, and ward decisioning Kessler. Anyone wanna wage crow? Gentleman's bet on abraham vs. taylor, if it goes the distance, taylor wins decision, if one thing leads to another, abraham gonna give taylor the taste of canvas and leather. pc out!
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 05:06:22 PM
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brownsugar:
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good call Chef-Lee,.. I think Dirrell is taking a quantum leap into the deep end of the ocean without a paddle or a life raft,.. like Brother Nazim says,.. he's going to have to learn how to swim without getting wet to get past Froch,.. who comes across like one of those evil axe wielding woodsman in one of those Brothers Grim fairy tales,.. but if Dirrell can get in there quick and soften him up early his fate may not be so grim... I hope Taylor has a last minute epiphany,.. of his whole career flashing before his eyes and comes out like Buster Douglas did against Tyson,.. Taylor has the best gifts yet the biggest flaws amongst all the participants....(is TAylor always second best??? or does he have the worst luck and stamina in all of boxing??),... Go check out Calzaghe vs Kessler again when you get the chance,.. doesn't it look like Kessler is confused by angles and pressure???,.. even the lite popping brand of pressure Joe C... beat him down with,.. so 40 fights already,.. the fighting Dane aint' gettin no younger,.. Abrahms could either truly be a beast,.. or be truly exposed,.. if these guys can defend against his intermittant bombing runs,.. he could get walked over by losing some unspectacular UD's... anyway Mr Lee your' a braver man than me,... I still can't call it although I do favor Ward,.. Froch and Abrams look pretty dangerous too....
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 06:32:41 PM
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MisterLee @ brownsugar:
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Hey man! Taylor IS an awesome boxer, but he's been disappointing since the bhop fights to me, i never thought he won the winky fight, then he got stopped by pavlik and then froch. He's an awesome athlete, fast, crazy counterpunching speed (made bhop reel across the ring), but then he stops fighting in the later rounds, doesn't know how to stick and move, nor hold when he's hurt, or FOUL! (just ask cotto). Nah man, i think it's calzaghe's workrate that gave kessler trouble more so than the angles and confusing boxing skills. Kessler couldn't keep up the pace, tho i do think calzaghe got the upperhand, but kessler did land some hellacious shots. talk to you later!
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 06:39:53 PM
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the Roast:
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@Caveman, I'm just nitpicking. This tourney is a great idea and I cant wait for it to get going. I hope it makes it to the finals without some boxing-like drama to mess it all up. I just feel JT does'nt belong. He is gonna get KTFO. He's gonna fight King Arthur in Germany? KO for sure. Easy three points. If they had a fighters meeting and the Tourney Director said " Who wants to fight JT? " All five hands went up.
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 08:00:32 PM
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MisterLee:
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@ the Roast with the Most... yo man! All good! I have in each of these warriors. Should be pretty awesome. I definitely feel Jermaine Taylor is the highest profile fighter in the bunch with probably the biggest flaws and greatest chance of losing (and ironically one of the most talented too!). They probably needed him to keep the legitimacy of the tournament up while also giving him a second chance or third chance. If Bute were in the mix instead of taylor, would the comp hold water? Pavlik would have added equal star power, but does he have cajones? These guys are warriors and will rumble, which is why they accepted the challenge in the first place and I have no fear of the tournament flopping. Yeah, it sucks they had to put two of the highest picks vs. each other first, and i can tell they made an effort to start off the tourney with USA vs. Europe matches, yep. Andre Ward 2009! :)
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 11:25:34 PM
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MisterLee:
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I have FAITH in each of these warriors.
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 11:26:00 PM
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MisterLee:
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I see Jean Pascal, Bhop, and/or Dawson to be future challengers of the top tournament winners. pc out! maybe adamek and/or johnson too! yep!
Thursday Jul 16, 2009 11:26:51 PM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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