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Will Heavyweight Bombs Be Bursting In Germany?
By Frank Lotierzo
With the heavyweight division taking a public beating more fiercely than any fighter in it is capable of administering to another, what's the best scenario that can result from this weekend's Eddie Chambers versus Alexander Dimitrenko WBO title elimination bout? It's hard not to hear and get caught up in the chatter eliciting how boxing is on it's last breath and will soon be eclipsed by MMA. Statements like that make for good copy, but that's about it. The fact is both sports are thriving, as evidenced by the interest surrounding who Manny Pacquiao will next fight and the upcoming UFC 100 clash between heavyweights Brock Lesner and Frank Mir.
Less than two weeks ago 61,000 fans showed up in Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany to watch heavyweight Wladimir Klitschko stop former WBA title holder Ruslan Chagaev to retain his IBF/WBO titles. After the fight it was echoed by fans all over how dreadful the current heavyweight division is, which is a statement that indicates how short the memory of boxing fans can be. The heavyweight division has been the subject of ridicule since Joe Louis was defending the undisputed heavyweight title against the bum of the month club. That's right, according to boxing fans every heavyweight champ at the time reigned over a subpar landscape of contenders, starting with Louis and maybe even going as far back as Jack Dempsey's reign circa 1919-26.
It's been said by quite a few boxing writers and fans how the heavyweight division is hard to take seriously at this time, which is probably something of an over-statement. How does that apply to Chambers-Dimitrenko? For starters, unless one of them impressively handles (and, preferably knocks him out) the other, their fight won't mean much in as far as shaking up the division. In fact if Chambers-Dimitrenko ends in a decision, it very possibly could do both fighters more harm than good. In order for the heavyweight division to muster up some excitement, Wladimir Klitschko needs to be involved in a fight that is somewhat compelling, more so than does his brother Vitali, who has been living off the props he received after his fight with Lennox Lewis six years ago.
The Chambers-Dimitrenko winner is slated to be Wladimir Klitschko's next opponent. That said, a Chambers (34-1, with 18 KOs) win--especially if it's somewhat impressive-- is the better and more significant story. Chambers, who fights out of Pennsylvania, has been willing to go outside his own state and country to fight since becoming a serious title contender. A win by him in Germany, especially in what is considered hostile territory for American heavyweights, would add to the gate and interest with an impending fight with Wladimir Klitschko. Another factor that can't be overlooked if Chambers were to beat Dimitrenko (29-0, with 19 KOs) is, he can make a claim to being the best current American heavyweight and the only one willing and capable of going across the Atlantic to successfully prove that he's the best. On the other hand, Dimitrenko is only one of a basically anonymous group of Eastern European and Soviet heavyweights. A win over Chambers only moves him slightly closer to the top of the pile.
As far as who would make for a better fight and have a better chance to upset Wladimir Klitschko, that's an open book until after the fight. At first glance it's easy to deduce that the 6'7" Dimitrenko matches up better with the 6'6" Klitschko. Dimitrenko likes to use his jab and throws them in succession. Klitschko is a fighter who's very driven by his left hand. That said, if there's one thing a fighter reliant on his jab doesn't like confronting it is another fighter who has a useful and active left hand. The problem with Dimitrenko is when he's not on the attack he often falls into a defensive posture when his opponent asserts himself and begins to cut loose offensively. That's a bad tendency to have when confronting Wladimir Klitschko, who happens to be terrific at sniffing out a fighter who harbors some doubt and who fights with trepidation.
Watching Klitschko over the last few years it may be a disadvantage fighting him if you are his size or slightly bigger than him like Alexander Dimitrenko is. Alexander is an adequate boxer, but he hasn't faced the same level opposition as Klitschko. From a fundamental and boxing structure vantage point, it's easier to conclude that Klitschko's form and fundamentals will hold up better than Dimitrenko's. Along with that, Dimitrenko is a huge target who despite being pretty versatile for a fighter his size, will have a hard time nullifying Klitschko's strength and power, not to mention his own power is still a question mark that hovers over him going into the upcoming fight with Eddie Chambers.
Chambers has been referred to lately as being an undersized heavyweight. His best fighting weight is probably in between 215-220. At 6'1" and assuming he's in the best shape of his life for the biggest fight of his career, his size if he knows how to use it can possibly work to his advantage against both Dimitrenko and Klitschko. And his mindset will go a long way in determining whether or not he gets past Dimitrenko and moves onto a title shot against Klitschko.
“I have to get off to a good start, it's vital”, said Chambers. “I have to step on the gas the entire night and force him to fight at a pace he isn’t used to." Which sounds about right. The question is can Chambers sustain a pace that he's never had to before? The last time he was in this situation he let a fight in which he was clearly on his way to winning slip away and lost a unanimous decision to undefeated Alexander Povetkin.
Chambers said, “I don’t want to leave it to the judges. I want to beat him so bad that the judges will have a ton of explaining to do. I am out to destroy him. This is my time and I plan to take complete control. Whether it is in one or 12 rounds, I’ll be the winner.”
Maybe Eddie Chambers has learned from his past fight and after having time to think and grow he'll develop into a better fighter as a result of his setback against Povetkin. To get past Dimitrenko, Chambers will need to bring his A game and fight better than we've ever seen him fight to date. Dimitrenko has gone on record saying this is the most important fight of his life. With both fighters being under 30 years old, there's a chance provided based on what they show on July 4th that they'll provide a future glimpse of the heavyweight division.
There's no question that Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko are at the top of the food chain in the heavyweight division. However, Wladimir, as formidable as he is, exudes the perception that he's no more than one Sunday punch away from disaster. The problem is getting close enough to plant a lottery punch on his chin. As for Vitali, he's 37 and his body has shown it is capable of breaking down in training or during a fight.
The heavyweight division needs a serious infusion. Maybe Chambers and/or Dimitrenko are capable of injecting it. Hopefully, it won't be by default.
Frank Lotierzo Can Be Reached at: GlovedFist@Gmail.com
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Peter Egley:
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I like Chambers. I saw his match against Samuel Peter, enjoyed it.
Friday Jul 3, 2009 08:20:45 AM
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Caveman:
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I will catch teh fight. yo eggs! i replied in a tell-all in the mccarter article by avila. i talk a bit too much, but i dont have to worry, i'm not famous nor have money like radam, i don't have anything to protect. :) anyway, i hope this fight is better than the 3 round i saw of the wlad fight. pc out!
Friday Jul 3, 2009 08:28:37 AM
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cutman:
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Chambers is not going to like his meeting with "Babyface" Dimitrenko one bit. The Ukrainian is much more than the little guy from Philly can handle. Sascha by KO in the late rounds. If Chambers can run fast enough he may survive to lose by UD.
Friday Jul 3, 2009 09:48:20 AM
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the Roast:
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I hope Chambers is in the best shape of his life and fights like he says he will in the article. At 6'1 he needs to get inside and let those fast hands go. Same if he wins and gets the shot at Wlad. His weight holds the key. I gotta say I am really disapointed with Sam freakin Peter. After he beat James Toney and Oleg Maskaev I thought we might have ourselves a real champion. Then he is not in good shape for the Vitali fight and stinks up the place. Follows that up by being in worse shape and getting out boxed by Chambers. Sam, if you are out there, put the fork down and back away fror the table.
Friday Jul 3, 2009 09:59:01 AM
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donputo69 getting a tattoo:
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who cares....im looking forward cotto vs pacquiao....BRING IT ON...holla back!!!
Friday Jul 3, 2009 10:19:22 AM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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The only bursting we're going to see is Chamber's jelly belly if he don't come in the fight in shape. Just playin, easy fight for Chambers!! Chambers must use his hand speed! Dimitrenko is too slow when he throws his punches and Chambers will counter him with ease. Also pressure him the whole way because he can't fight backwards. I'M TAKING CHAMBERS BY UD OR 11TH ROUND STOPPAGE!!!!!
Friday Jul 3, 2009 11:14:07 AM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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For Dimitrenko to be successful, he has to fight TALL and aim for the body. Like the article said, "JAB JABJBAJBJAJBAJAAJBAJJABAJB." Payce out! Happy 4th everyone.
Friday Jul 3, 2009 11:20:57 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG still grieving over MJ:
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Wow! Nice piece P4P fightwriter Frank Lo! Even though I'm still in grief over MJ, that grief has been tempered by Da Don being back in da Universe! Y'all better recognize! It's Don Time! All the haters, fakers, posers, posturers, sycophants, lack of jawbreakers, and no money makers better take heed because you'll be smacked down. If tears flow when I call you "a bunch of bums," just wait until the Don spits at ya. It's Don TIme! Any way, Eddie Chambers is 2nd only to Da Cali Crusher, aka True Nightmare" Arreola in the land of the fatties and china chins. He's gonna knock out all these Euro juicin' giants. The real clash of the titans will be Chambers - Arreola in what'll be WW3 Holla!
Friday Jul 3, 2009 12:03:06 PM
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Real Talk :
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Fight tall and aim for the body ? If he aims for the body he loses his height advantage . I didn't like the Chambers vs. Peter fight . I think if Chambers gets past Dimitrenko he could go the distance with Kltschko because he can slip . We know what the judges will do if that happens . I don't think Eddie has the power to stop Wladimir , even with the china chin . Dueces
Friday Jul 3, 2009 01:19:47 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Well RealTalk, As you can see I'm trying to lay it out the scene in both fighters' perspective. I would like to see Fast Eddie put constant pressure on Dimitrenko who is slow on his feet. For Dimitrenko to prevent that is to jab and keep him at range or if Eddie is trying to apply pressure he can go to his body with Chambers reaching for his target. Chamber's gameplan is to apply pressure and counter at times. Dimitrenko has to JAB to keep him at range and throw the unexpected body shot. Not a brilliant plan but it will have to do.
Friday Jul 3, 2009 02:26:56 PM
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brownsugar:
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Dimi is not some slow standup-straight-like-a-lampost-classic-boxing-European-Oalf,.. he's more agile and deceptive than Wlad,.. and he won't need to jab to Eddies body,.. when he can unleash sneaky debilitating hooks to the liver,.. he's actually somewhat swift and slick for someone that big,.. and has a slightly more fluid style than you think,.. that said,.. he does have defensive lapse where his inexperience leaves him out of position sometimes,... and he gets hit more often than a guy that tall should,.. and never doubt that any 6"7" fighter who's the spitting image of a teenage Ivan Drago can't hit,.. he KO'd TimoHoffman,.. the first man to do so,.. even Vitali couldn't get Timo out of there,...But Eddie can make unexpected things happen,.. and he'll need to be at his absolute best to come out the winner,.. Fast Eddie has Ballz-of-Steel to accept this fight,.. I hope his ability equals his preposterous courage....
Friday Jul 3, 2009 09:51:45 PM
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brownsugar:
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Eddie spars with some of the biggest guys willing sell themselves as human punching bags (similar to Areola) so I don't see this as mismatch,.. he'll know how to navigate within range of the tall Russian,.. Dimintrenko is far more game than Wlad and is more willing to stand and fight,.. could be interesting,.. but I'm not betting on this one and I'm setting my expectations very low,.. Eddie has to show the boxing world that he's in better shape than he was against Povietkin,.. and I mean,.. in shape enough to digg down deep when necessary... like Holmes against Norton,.. if that's even possible...
Friday Jul 3, 2009 10:09:39 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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Very well said brownsugar, this fight is like Rocky IV Apollo Creed vs Ivan Drago but the outcome will be the other way around. You see he's not a machine, he's a man! This is your whole life here!
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 12:52:25 AM
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brownsugar:
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LOL Pacfan,.... does anyone know how or where to watch the fight???
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 04:49:24 AM
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brownsugar:
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Chambers wins in a dominating performance,.. boxes Dimitrendo silly..who would thunk it??.
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 03:19:14 PM
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AFN@brownsugar:
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Sorry Brown I've just read your request too late. The place to go for any of these European fights, and most US ones as well, is myP2P dot eu (for europe). It was like watching lego boxing with giant pixles, but was bearable. Eddy won a dubious MD, but he won most rounds, and forced two counts for Dimintrenko, the first a standing count after a wicked body punch. Eddy looked fast and in shape, and was on the inside and forcing the big guy back most of the fight. Good win, tho should have been a one sided UD. Toonoy
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 03:24:02 PM
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brownsugar:
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thanks AFN, for the site,.. I added it to my favorites,.. I didn't see the fight,... I was reduced to reading bloggers comments round by round,.. incredible outcome,.. I was expecting the worse,.. guess a little dedication and dieting goes a long way... toonoy...
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 03:31:54 PM
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brownsugar:
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Mr Editor Mike and Crew,.. it's time to put this story up,.. can't believe that a fighter weighing 208,.. dominates a big guy like,.. Dimitrenko scoring 2 kd's on the way,.. I hope the other Americans heavies watching (Kevin Johnson,.. Areola) and have received some inspiration from these events,.. Maybe even David Haye will crawl out from under his rock,.. end his semi-retirement and get back into action...
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 07:31:43 PM
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Smiley C @ brownsugar:
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You can found a ton of recent bouts and past ones at the site "Dailymotion." This site has bouts in English, French and German, and maybe some other languages. Fo' sure!
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 07:42:43 PM
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DaveB:
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This is a case of showing where a loss can be a good thing. I really believe Chambers' loss to Povetkin prepared him for this fight. His body looked lean and trim and he looked ready to rumble. He'll have to fight like this to have a chance to defeat Klitschko. He really did himself proud moving in and out, throwing body shots, and slipping punches. If he doesn't freeze when he gets his chance for the title it will be real interesting.
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 07:50:51 PM
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the Roast:
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Wow. Chambers won and was in shape? Congrats to Eddie.
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 09:57:45 PM
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brownsugar:
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thanks SmileyC...because of the info you and AFN provided,.. I'll never have to be on the outside looking in again,... Dave B,.. I think your spot on with those comments...well,.. getting late,.. pc out...
Saturday Jul 4, 2009 09:59:37 PM
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