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Agebko Gives Darchinyan Run For Trash-Talking Money
By Michael Woods
He has been creeping higher and higher on pundits’ pound for pound rankings, but Vic Darchinyan’s place on the P4P trashtalking list is secure. Evil Vic is number one, and proved it once again, for those who might be inclined to hand the top spot to Mayweather, Hopkins, Mayorga, Miranda or maybe Malignaggi,* on a Tuesday conference call to hype his July 11 Showtime scrap with IBF bantwamweight champion Joseph Agbeko.
The 33-year-old Darchinyan (32-1-1, with 26 KOs; only loss vs. Nonito Donaire in July 2007-TKO by 5) is currently the acknowledged super flyweight king, but is keen on pulling a Pacman, and steadily climbing the poundage ladder, picking off champs on the way. Where will he stop, only the Armenian-born Aussie knows for sure, but when he talks about piling on 60 plus pounds onto his 5-5 ½ frame to take on a Klitschko, you get the sense that the hitter doesn’t regard that challenge as pure fantasy.
His last five fights, the former flyweight champion has been campaigning at 115 pounds. Against Agbeko, the IBF titlist who beat Luis Perez for the crown in Sept. 2007, EV will step in the ring at 118 pounds, but he promises one and all that there will be no loss of power as he goes north. No, as we’ve all become accustomed to, Darchinyan promises that Agbeko will feel the force of his foes’ power and will end up on his tush, being counted out at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla.
“This is going to be the biggest mismatch,” said Darchinyan, who said he’s been sparring junior welterweights to get ready. “Where would you like me to hurt you most? In the body or in the face?”
Ah, a rare moment of thoughtfulness from the pint-sized prognosticator! Giving Agbeko the option of where he can receive punishment, never let it be said that EV lacks the capacity to care!
“I’ve seen Agbeko’s fights and they don’t impress me,” he continued. “You will see, nothing compares to my power. I will knock him out with my power. I can open my jaw and let him punch it and he still won’t hurt me.”
Agbeko, for his part, seemed at home on the call, in this smack-talk milieu, and he gave as well as he got.
“I just want Vic to know that this is the fight of my life,” said the Accra, Ghana-born fighter, who now resides in the Bronx, NY. “I know Vic Darchinyan picked to fight me because he thinks he can have his way with me but I just want him to know that this is the biggest mistake he has ever made in his career because he’s going to get the worst beating of his career.”
Agbeko skillfully attempted to insert doubt into EV’s head, by referring to a blemish on his resume that lingers in the mind of Filipino fight fans, if not in Darchinyan’s, or his promoter, Gary Shaw’s.
“Why didn’t he talk like this when Nonito Donaire beat him? I wanted him to talk more and I want him to realize that I’m going to beat him more than Donaire beat him,” said the 29-year-old Agbeko, who will enter with a 26-1 (22 KOs) record on July 11.
Agbeko is a wild card for most US fight fans; he turned pro in 1998, and has fought in the US three times, in his last three bouts. He is not a vague threat to EV, though, who said that he has watched plenty of tape on Agbeko, including his 2007 loss to German resident Wladimir Sidorenko, in Germany. EV said he saw that fight, and disagreed with the call. “Congratulations, you were robbed in Germany,” he said. Thus, EV considers Agbeko undefeated, and will savor a win that much more, he said.
On the subject of losses, our Filipino readers are wondering if and when Darchinyan might want to avenge his TKO loss to Nonito Donaire, the Filipino/Californian.
Promoter Shaw repped Donaire, you might recall, but the boxer grew frustrated as he was inactive, and blamed Shaw. They split last summer, and not sweetly. Shaw said on the air after EV beat Jorge Arce in February that there was “not a chance” of seeing Donaire/Darchinyan II, citing Donaire’s lack of loyalty.
TSS asked Shaw about a rematch.
“Vic is not afraid of Nonito,” he said. “He wants to fight the very best out there. That’s why he fought Mijares, Arce and he’s fighting “King Kong” Agbeko. He’s been on TV, knocking out people on TV. Donaire’s hasn’t been heard of or seen.” Shaw cited as reasoning why a Donaire rematch doesn’t make sense now that his current promoter, Bob Arum, doesn’t list Nonito when he is listing his top young guns in the Top Rank stable. More likely, Shaw said, we’ll be seeing EV moving up in weight class, and trying to secure a fight with perhaps Israel Vazquez or Rafael Marquez. “That’s the plan,” he said.
What about you, Vic? Do you want a re-do with Donaire?
“Of course,” he said. “I’m going to demolish him.”
Shaw explained the resistance to a seemingly obvious and compelling course of action for EV. “Vic fights for money, not revenge,” he said. “If Vic gets seven figures, he will go to the Phillipines (to fight Donaire). We love the Phillipines and the Filipino people. But we don’t fight for revenge, only money.”
Ah, but when those two elements are combined, as they surely will be within the next year, then everybody wins, no? Donaire is slated to meet Rafael Concepcion on Aug. 15, for someone’s interim title, so the pinoys will have to be patient…
Hand speed, in EV’s favor could play part in the July 11 tussle, we think. But all the talk of moving up in weight, and a Donaire rematch, is it possible that we—and maybe Team EV—isn’t focusing properly on the Ghanian, who has power in both hands, knows how to handle lefties and can be hard to hit? Agbeko didn’t speak up on this subject, or even imply it, but if he is able weather EV’s power and leave Florida with his belt still his, we will all be focused on the lack of focus.
“I know I’m better than Vic Darchinyan,” Agebko said. “I know he can punch. I’m really, really ready for his punches. I know he’s never been on the receiving end of someone who punches like me. Vic is always talking about his power and about how he’s this and that but I’ve watched a couple of his fights and I never saw that power. He’s always fought guys that are afraid of him and he did what he wanted with them. But in this fight I’m going to do what I want to do and beat him the way I want. I’m going to let him do whatever he wants to do in this fight because I can do whatever he does better than him. After this fight, it is going to stick in your mind. You go into the ring, you will always be scared.”
Spoken, I must say, like a true Darchinyan.
Yes, it was an impressive showing on the conference call. If Agbeko's in-ring effort approaches the same level on July 11, Evil Vic may well be scooting back to 115, his expansion plan in tatters.
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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That's what you said about Nonito Donaire. Vic Darchiyan is an entertaining fighter who only knows how to fight and that's forward. In boxing, if that's the style of fighting you choose, you must sport a solid chin. Vic has a fragile chin who was knocked down by a powerless Z Gorres. We all know that a counter puncher can pick off an aggressive fighter which Donaire successfully did. Vic also has no head movement and once he runs into a punch he will go down. I want to study more on Agebko to make my predictions.
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 03:11:36 PM
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Karl Malden is dead:
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With the exception of Ricardo Mayorga, Evil Vic is the best trash talker in the last 15-20 years. Let's see him in there with Donito again, so Nonaire can knock him unconscious again.
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 03:32:18 PM
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AFN voices in my head:
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Has anybody else noticed how it is impossible to read any quote from the Dark Lord without reading it in your head and hearing it in his inimitable Armenian/Australian accent? Toonoy
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 04:10:09 PM
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MisterLee:
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I'm always an Evil Vic fan. hoping for the best. But, honestly, I should pick whoever the darn boxing sage picks. He's never wrong. It's tru! I read it on wiki! :)
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 04:48:17 PM
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brownsugar:
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Vic is moving up in weight,.. not down,.. and Donito is staying put,.. there will not be a rematch,...Vic got into Chris Mijares head so bad that the normally methodical mexican standout came into the ring with a smug grin,.. kissing the groupies on the way into the ring,....... he was still smiling when Vic,... wearing a noticably "Evil" grin wiped Mijares grin clean off his mug and sent the champ crashing to the canvas,... at that point Chistian was probably hearing the voices AFN was talking about,..but instead of an Armenian accent,.. it was probably more like reverse Dead-Latin,.. but some of these guys from S. Africa can be deceptive,.. Nate Campbell nearly lost by overlooking a S. African opponent who never stopped throwing punches up to the final bell,...probably due to working out at inhumanly high temperatures,.. But I never saw anybody bluff and intimidate a fighter with his power like Vic does,.. (except maybe Tyson) he holds his elbows high and extends his arms while angling them in such a fashion,.... it makes his opponents feel like he's about to drop an omni-directional bomb at any moment,... that's when Vic is truly at his best and is literally inside his opponents head,..
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 04:59:50 PM
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Real Talk : hard day at the office:
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I'm taking Evil Vic by crushing KO !!! I don't know this Agebko guy so this is a blind pick , but I'm rolling with the Evil one . Moohoohaahaahaahaaaaaa !!!!!!! Dueces
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 05:03:21 PM
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MisterLee:
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30 dollars on evil vic, 35 dollars on #1 pacfan's pick. Pc out! Andre beats supermiddle comers this and next year, 2009!
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 05:39:10 PM
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oskar:
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Agbeko can box got speed with good defense and power if he's chin can hold up against Vic's vicious attacks it's an upset. Agbeko by a UD...
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 06:41:59 PM
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ali:
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Vic is cold! I would love to see the rematch with Donaire cause I think he can fight too but it don't look like it ever going to happen. I wounder why Vic did'nt get a rematch right away is it because he did'nt want it or was it Donairethat did'nt want it.
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 07:02:15 PM
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oskar:
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Vic lose the match against Nonito so it's sensible that Vic should be the one asking for a rematch but you won't hear it from the bad mouth Vic. I think Vic is trying to forget the name of "the Filipino flash" Nonito Donaire.
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 08:43:31 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@Ali, Donaire had made an open invitation for the rematch but Vic didn't want any of it. I thought Donaire was going to get crushed when he faced Vic but he made me a believer so I would pick Donaire without a doubt this time around. To me Vic still fights the same way and he is too easy to hit.
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 10:51:59 PM
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Real Talk:
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Dr. Evil Vic !!!!! Moo Hoo Haa haaa haaahaaaaaa !!!! Peace
Wednesday Jul 1, 2009 10:52:29 PM
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#1 Pacfan Watching Pacquiao highlights!:
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This fight is looking to be an even money fight. I'm going with Agbeko in the 4th round by KO. Agbeko's gameplan is simple sit back and catch him lunging in. He has great head movement and is very ellusive which will be the key factor for him. The problem is Agbeko does not have a signature counter punch that can affect Vic so he has to hit him with the straight right while Vic is off balance. As for Darchiyan, he must keep being aggressive and fight him in the inside that would take away Agbeko's physical advantages. I don't think Vic will have the power to take him out so he must win rounds early because Agbeko is a durable fighter with great stamina. The question is, will the move up in weight make a significant affect of Darchiyan? I believe so, he will lose to Agbeko and finally make a fight with Donaire back down to Flyweight.
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 12:39:31 AM
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ali:
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This has nothing to do with Vic but I have to comment on the quote of note Juan said Tyson and Cotto did'nt have the heart of a Corrales, Ali, Louis, Gatti are you smoking somethen. Im not hating but he should not have got the quote of note, Tyson did have it & Cotto does have it. He made some good points but when you post something that's so far from the truth you should not be rewarded for it.
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 05:40:14 AM
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GOAT:
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Styles makes fights and I believe Donaire will beat Vic everytime. Vic is strong and punches hard but when those types of fighters fight someone with better skills and pop in their punches, they normally loose (Mayaorga, Pavlik, Miranda etc). Plus how can you talk trash when you were knocked out cold? It wasn't a TKO or the ref didn't stop it early, Vic was out cold! He said he didn't get knocked out during the post fight interview, he had no memory of what happened.
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 06:58:20 AM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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I have to agree with you Ali, you can never question Cotto heart. As for Tyson he had it, it was just that he got frustrated with Holyfield he went for the ear instead of the balls.
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 11:08:42 AM
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MisterLee:
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I will go Evil Vic for my heart, but #1 pacfan picked the winner. I will do that pick with my head, but my heart rules, evil vic by crushing KO in the mid rounds. #1 pac will make a lot of money if he gambled, or did fantasy boxing. See ya! :)
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 12:29:41 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@MisterLee, I don't gamble on any fighter but Manny. I've won some good money on him by personal bets out here. I wouldn't bet on my prediction though because Vic can always pull something out of the bag. Two reasons why I picked Agbeko, (1) He is from Ghana and we all know they are tough; (2) Vic has to move up in weight and we don't know if he can be effective. I did lose a lot of money on the Dela Hoya-Trinidad fight though, I was pissed.
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 01:52:06 PM
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MisterLee:
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I'm kidding #1 pacfan! Im not a gambling man. But i would bet crow on your bets any day. What should i name my horse? Crow-cop? Crow's beauty? The Crow of the crop? :)
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 06:39:30 PM
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Raging bull:
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Vic Darchinyan for the kill!!!
Thursday Jul 2, 2009 09:20:11 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Cotto in 7":
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@MMLee, if it were a female horse I would call her Sheryl Crow.
Friday Jul 3, 2009 12:36:32 AM
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Caveman:
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Dude! I almost choked on a bone! hahahahahha....never will i bet agst you again. I'm sure going into the fight ortiz would know that "The first cut is the deepest" hahaha...
Friday Jul 3, 2009 02:21:04 AM
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Fast Eddie Lands In Germany, Says He'll Land The Shots To Upset Wlad
"An upset is possible in this as I could see Chambers boxing his way to a UD or SD, but I expect the much more likely scenario of a TKO in favor of Wlad in the middle to late rounds, in fact, I'd probably go with TKO in the 8th." --TSS reader Isaiah give Chambers a chance to get the upset win (photo by Jan Sanders)
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