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Forty Year Forgotten Classic: Frazier vs. Quarry I
By Frank Lotierzo
It truly was a classic and deservedly won Ring Magazine "Fight Of The Year" in 1969. Today the fight is often referred to as Frazier-Quarry I, and probably marks the official arrival of "Smokin" Joe Frazier being widely accepted as Muhammad Ali's successor since the ex-champ was exiled two years earlier. Joe's opponent that night, Jerry Quarry, probably would've whipped any other heavyweight in the world the night they fought with the only exception being the one he had in front of him.
On Monday night June 23, 1969 Joe Frazier was the man in the Heavyweight division. Other than Quarry, only WBA champ Jimmy Ellis and former undisputed champ Sonny Liston, who was at least in his late 30s at the time, were considered a threat to derail Frazier. In fact Liston compared fighting Frazier to shooting fish in a barrel, saying, "he is made for me, he walks right in."
For Frazier, Quarry would be the fourth contender he would defend his six state (New York, Pennsylvania, Maine, Illinois, Texas and Massachusetts) heavyweight title against since knocking out undefeated Buster Mathis to win it a little over a year earlier. Quarry was 15 months removed from losing a majority decision to Jimmy Ellis in the final of the WBA heavyweight elimination tournament. In his last fight three months before meeting Frazier, Quarry won a unanimous decision over Buster Mathis who'd only been bested by Frazier up to that point in his career. Before the fight boxing pundits and experts were evenly split on who would win, although Frazier was a 9-5 betting favorite in Las Vegas. The only real consensus between them was that Quarry probably had the slightly better chin. Which is debatable even to this day 40 years later.
At the bell for round one, Quarry, who was known for being a counter puncher, stormed out of his corner and met Frazier at ring center and started trading with him. The strategy caught Frazier by surprise. During the round Frazier and Quarry had some massive exchanges and it was Quarry who got the better of them. It appeared that Quarry's quick hands and counter rights were the difference. The second round was almost a repeat of the first, with Quarry again holding the edge if only by a slight margin. After two rounds Quarry's strategy looked like it might pay off, despite Frazier being known for making his living by trading and forcing the fight. The only question was could Jerry keep it up?
Midway through round three Quarry slowed a little and Joe started to smoke. This is when the fight started to turn in Frazier's favor due to his unrelenting pace and making Jerry fight from bell-to-bell. Quarry fought back by launching hard three and four punch counter attacks, but he was doing so more in an attempt to hold Frazier off and occupy him than to hurt him. Which didn't deter Frazier even a little as he continued working Quarry over to the body and head. From rounds four through seven Frazier had the better of it, with Quarry fighting to buy time trying to figure out what he could do to slow Frazier down. The more Quarry slowed and tried to catch a breather, Frazier fed off of it and applied more pressure and never let up.
The seventh round ended with Quarry bleeding from a cut over his right eye that was swelling up and starting to impede his vision. At the end of the round ringside physician Dr. Harry Klieman climbed into the ring and went to Quarry's corner to examine his eye. Over Quarry's gallant protest he stopped the fight before the bell rang to start the eighth round. Thus being recorded as a 7th round TKO victory for Frazier, setting up his February 16th 1970 showdown with WBA Heavyweight Champ Jimmy Ellis.
Frazier-Quarry I was an outstanding action packed fight. The first round is one of the most fierce rounds you'll ever see between two heavyweights. For the first three rounds while Quarry was fresh, he hung right in there with Frazier. The difference being Frazier was a little stronger than Quarry and was more loose and relaxed when he threw his punches. In the early going Quarry proved he could stay with Frazier, he just couldn't stay with him the whole fight and was worn down by ultimately being forced to fight Frazier's fight. Couple that with Quarry's fair skin that tended to cut, he could never beat Joe. However, it was one of Quarry's better fights even though he lost. After losing to Joe Frazier in June of 1969, Jerry Quarry never again challenged for a piece of the heavyweight title. On the other hand this was a year into Frazier's prime circa 1968-71. During that three year span Joe Frazier cleaned out the division and sealed his legacy beating then undefeated former champ Muhammad Ali in the biggest and most anticipated fight in boxing history.
Foreman Makes Pro Debut
There was another significant event that happened on June 23rd 1969. That being on the undercard of Frazier-Quarry, 1968 Olympic heavyweight gold medalist George Foreman made his pro debut. In his first fight as a pro Foreman KO'd Don Waldheim in the third round an hour before Frazier and Quarry fought. Who could've imagined back then that the young Foreman, not Ali, would be the fighter to take Frazier's undisputed title three and a half years later.
Another sidebar to June 23rd 1969 brings Jerry Quarry and George Foreman together. I was told, and later confirmed the story passed along to me by a well known CBS broadcaster of the 70's, Tom Brookshier, of a ring meeting between Quarry and Foreman in May of 1969. The story goes that one day in a California gym both Quarry and Foreman were training for their upcoming fights. Quarry was preparing for Frazier and Foreman was getting ready for his pro debut. On this particular day, Quarry and Foreman sparred each other.
I was told by Brookshier who did blow by blow commentary with both Jerry and George for CBS boxing broadcast during the mid seventies that Quarry hurt Foreman badly and almost knocked him out the one known time they worked with each other. The version conveyed by Tom is Quarry caught Foreman with a big right hand near the end of the second round and staggered him, thus Foreman's trainer Dick Saddler immediately called time ending the session.
Four years later after Foreman dethroned Frazier it was rumored and reported that George's first title defense was going to be against Quarry. This escalated after Quarry beat Ron Lyle less than a month after Foreman won the title from Frazier. The fight never happened. However, it was widely speculated in boxing circles and in the media that Foreman was a little reluctant about meeting Quarry back then, something Foreman has never denied, but that's George. Depending on what day you ask him the answer probably changes more then the weather.
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Joe:
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Jerry Quarry was a tough son-of-a-gun. I watched him get cut up badly by both Frazier and Ali but the man had only one gear - full speed ahead.
Remember his brother Mike? He was a tough guy too.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 12:17:56 PM
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straight jab:
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Frank it is truly a breath of fresh air having you remind us all of some of the great fighters and fights that took place. For guys on this site not long enough in the tooth to remember Jerry Quarry it may seem like a so what Joe Frazier beat some slow white guy bum. Many times, as recently as the other day talking about Klitschko's resume we get hung up on how bad the heavyweight division is. In our lifetime, and arguably anybody's lifetime. the heavyweight division was never littered with as many gifted fighters at the same time as it was in the late 60's thru the early 70's. The young Jerry Quarry was a terrific fighter. quick hands, punching power in both hands, great counter puncher, great chin, and tough as nails. It can be argued that at his best the only 2 fighters that Quarry could not beat were Ali and Frazier. Hell there are only a handful of guys who ever climbed thru the ropes who could possibly beat either one of them. Quarry knocked out Earnie Shavers in 1 round. Beat Ron Lyle who at the time was up and coming 19-0 19 ko'sfrom pillar to post. There was another fighter Mac Foster also undefeated I believe 25-0 again think he had 25 ko's Quarry Knocked him out. If Jerry Quarry fought in a different era without the giant shadows of Ali and Frazier he would remembered much more for the hell of a fighter he was. I was just a kid but never forgot a line Quarry said which is so so true. at the press conference before he fought Ron Lyle, a reporter asked him. Jerry aren't you a little worried about this fight? Lyle is 19-0 19 KO'S he's was in prison for killing a man. nobody has gone more than 5 rounds with him? Jerry said " they're all big. and they're all tough, they're all this and they're all that UNTIL I PUNCH THEM BACK" That was so Quarry. and he went out and beat the Hell out of Ron Lyle that night. Thanks Frank for reminding me not to forget Jerry Quarry. How about some Tex Cobb memories!
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 12:20:11 PM
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Michael & Guinness:
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Jerry Quarry probably would have been a heavyweight champion in any other era. He had the misfortune of hitting his prime during the Ali/Frazier era - 2 of the best heavyweights of all time. I will never forget his one round knockout of Ernie Shavers, a fighter feared by many. Quarry was fearless and one tough SOB.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 12:28:00 PM
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Jhonny:
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Oh to have a Jerry Quarry around today! He would easily rule the division and put both Klitschko's in a cocoon of horror. Sonny Liston was right. He'd have recaptured the title had he fought Frazier. It would have been the same beatdown that George gave him. That's an interesting tidbit about Foreman's fear of Quarry. I suspect Quarry would have either KO'd him early or been stopped on cuts. In boxing history, the greatest whiskers of all time belong to (1) Jerry Quarry (2) Oliver McCall (3) Tex Cobb.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 12:30:19 PM
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hm:
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good article. nice to learn about this 1st bout between them. it was before my time.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 12:45:27 PM
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dr3r42:
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I would hope that a world ranked professional with 6 years of professional and 4 years of amatuer experiance would have beaten a green amatuer, who first put on a pair of boxing gloves in 1967. Jerry also supposidly destroyed Joe Frazier in a 1966 sparing session on the West Coast, little different story in 1969. Although Jerry matches up better with George than Joe Frazier did, the 1974 Foreman wasn't Ron Lyle, Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers or Thad Spencer. George had a hell of a jab, and Jerry was also susceptable to a jab. I think George busts him and stops him in around 5 or 6 rounds. The "74" Foreman was way better than the "69" Foreman, and the "69" Quarry was probably a shade better than the "New Jerry Quarry" of 1974- who turned into the old Jerry Quarry after being stopped by Frazier a second time.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 02:11:53 PM
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Frank M:
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I was at the fight and it was a thriller. Jerry fought the right fight. The only way he was going to beat Frazier was to get to him real early. Jerry fought at a pace he could never maintain and he took his chances hoping to land the haymaker. After about a 2 and a half rounds, he was already showing signs of wear. It was one heck of an action packed fight. I wont ever forget it. MSG had that special fight night feel to it.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 02:39:36 PM
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T.C.:
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@ Jhonny - George Chuvalo had a monster beard!
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 03:53:54 PM
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dr3r42:
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I am not going to say that Jerry wasn't a good fighter, tough as nails and had a good chin, but come on. "Greatest Whiskers of All Time ? " According to box rec, Jerry was knockdown by Roy Craez, Floyd Patterson (a terrible decison that gave Jerry a Draw), twice by the murderous punching Memphis Al Jones, George Chuvalo, and Joe Alexander. I believe there are others not listed. i remember him being badly hurt by a right hand from Mac Foster (who was a converted southpaw) and was hurt at various times in his career. As opposed to Oliver McCall, who spared Tyson for years and has never been close to being down. As far as Jerry's greatness- he lost to an old, shot Eddie Machen, who Frazier sent back into retirement later that year. He got a highway robbery draw against Floyd Patterson, and a disputable majority decison agaisnt him in the rematch. He LOST to Jimmy Ellis- regardless of the excuses. I doubt he won even one round agaisnt Ali (in either fight), who laughed to the reporters DURING his second fight with Jerry that "this sure is an easy way to make a living". I don't think he got to the half way pont in either fight with Joe Frazier. As far as destroying the Klitchkko's : Jerry was 6-1, 195-200 with gator arms (about a 72" reach) he was always susceptable to the jab and cut easy. It's a little hard to counter someone with a piston for a jab, who is 5 feet away from you.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 04:06:32 PM
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Peter Egley:
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More great stuff from TSS. A fight I'm really intrigued by and finally saw some video of was Frazier-Ellis II from '75. Joe barely mentions it in his book but I think it deserves a retro. Also: Patterson-Ellis. As for Jerry Quarry, just haven't seen him enough.
Tuesday Jun 23, 2009 11:13:44 PM
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brownsugar:
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just saw a piece of it on youtube,.. can't believe I missed this epic confrontation,.. Jerry switched styles and tried to gore the bull in a full fledged role-reversal,..Joe hit him in the hip sockets so many times I thought he was going to need a walker to leave the ring....it was amazing to see Jerry give Joe such a hard time of it,.... sent me off on a google search to find more potential upsets,.. and found a vid of the diminutive Doug Jones ( at 188lbs he weighed as much as Klits left leg ) gave Ali the fight of his life,.. but the Future Hall of Famer would go on to improve dramatically after that fight...
Wednesday Jun 24, 2009 11:16:44 AM
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dr3r42:
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Brownsugar: Not accusing you of saying Ali-Jones was highway robbery (you didn't) but many have. I had it 6-3-1 Ali. You see the New York crowd go crazy every time Jones lands anything (a few years later the crowds are in Ali's pocket, going crazy when he does anything). Small fighters often gave Ali fits since he ain't going to blow them away with his power. Ali's game is speed and little guys are often fast. The chins don't matter as much since neither are going to knock the other one out. Foreman-Peralta I is the same thing, you see the crowd go crazy for the little underdog (Peralta). I don't think either fight was a controversial as made out to be; yeah, both of the favorites had some problems, but the crowd made it closer than it should have been.
Wednesday Jun 24, 2009 01:14:45 PM
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brownsugar:
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dr3r42,...good comments and a fresh perspective on Ali-Jones,.. yeah,.. no-one was expecting the fight to be that competetive,.. I thought Ali won,.. but barely,.. I think he slept on Dougs ability to make a fight of it..
Wednesday Jun 24, 2009 07:34:10 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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Watching Joe Frazier systematically break down Quarry, an elite fighter in his prime, made me smile at the memory. This was the heavyweight boxing of lore; the division that captured and sustained the imagination and loyalty of boxing fans worldwide. The first rounds were like Castillo Corrales (or vica versa)....and yet these were Heavyweights. There was more action and drama in these 6 plus rounds....and in all of Joe' fights....not seen again until the arrival of Mike Tyson (at his prime). Evander of small stature and mighty heart gave us his share of similar moments. Frazier was a relentless seek and destroy killing machine. Cotto, body puncher extraordinaire, cannot compare. Joe could take maybe even better than he could give. He would walk through either Klitscko's jab, lean on their shoulders as if tho attached with velcro, and bust them up with brutal body and hip shots....both Vlad and Vatili would have quit. Soon after Quarry, Joe would walk through Jimmy Ellis and then go on to KD Muhammed in the 15th of his victorious battle. The man deserves a distinguished place in history.
Wednesday Jun 24, 2009 10:03:44 PM
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You Have To Take The Test To Be Called The Best
"People can say whatever they like about Floyd Mayweather Jr....and they will....but they can never say the man challenges himself to be the best." ---TSS All-Star reader El Feroz weighs in on who he thinks is at blame for the Manny-Money negotiation flameout
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