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The Liston Chronicles, Part 2: Setting Sonny
By Springs Toledo
“Though the fury's hot and hard
I still see that cold graveyard
There's a solitary stone that's got your name on.”
~Elvis Costello, "Complicated Shadows"
“LISTON” was spelled out on the back of the heavyweight champion’s robe as he walked into the weigh-in before his second title defense. Behind the lettering was the image of a sun. A setting sun.
Sonny Liston had every reason to be confident on the night of February 25, 1964. He was an eight-to-one favorite to defeat Cassius Clay. “The loud mouth from Louisville,” declared the New York Times, “is likely to have a lot of vainglorious boasts jammed down his throat by a ham-like fist.” That was an echo of the opinion of nearly everyone paying attention. Even the Nation of Islam was reluctant to get too involved on behalf of their recent convert. Elijah Muhammad himself believed that it was “impossible” for Clay to beat Liston. Malcolm X did not, and offered religious-based counsel to the jittery challenger, and then defied Elijah Muhammad by attending the fight in Miami.
He didn’t know it yet, but Liston had already made the mistake common to legions of history’s strong men. The mistake was hubris. His contempt for the skills of Cassius Clay was as pronounced as his training was casual. He drank wine and snacked on potato chips. Liston was prepared only to go the two or three rounds he figured it would take to cash in on Cassius –no more, no less.
The Liston training camp revolved around the whims and moods of Liston. Everyone, including his trainer Willie Reddish, was told what to do and when to do it. Liston listened to no one except James Brown singing “Night Train”. The only exceptions were a Roman Catholic priest who befriended him in prison and the only hero he ever acknowledged –Joe Louis. Apparently, Louis never told Liston the story of his own lackadaisical training that brought about his first loss against Max Schmeling. Nor did the priest open the book of Samuel in Sonny’s presence. Had he done so, the champion may have remembered that it was a mere stone in the sling of a youth that felled Goliath.
No less was the speed of an arrow in the bow of a youth that slew Richard the Lionheart.
Liston looked at Clay and saw a mere stone in his shoe, expecting to parry his arrows as if they were shot by Cupid.
And so it went that a twenty-two year old upstart fought like a mighty archer on wheels; And Liston’s clay feet followed wearily as the rounds sailed past the third. The new old king learned the hard way that hubris blinds a man more than the astringent his corner may or may not have put on his gloves before the fourth round. Liston refused to come out for the seventh round. That was that. Cassius Clay became the new champion, shocking the world and bouncing all over the ring proclaiming exactly that –as Liston sagged on his stool.
Barbarossa, one of history’s great warriors, drowned under the weight of his armor in a shallow river. Liston’s fall was just as anticlimactic. It was downright meek.
Disrobed of his invincibility, he went to St. Francis Hospital for X-rays on his left shoulder. Later a team of doctors confirmed that he had in fact suffered an injury that would be “sufficient to incapacitate him and prevent him from defending himself”. Liston’s corner claimed that the injury occurred during training and that they had to cease sparring earlier than planned. When asked why they didn’t postpone the fight, the answer was “we thought we could get away with it.”
A forgotten nugget of information is that the rematch was originally set for November 16, 1964 at Boston Garden. Sonny trained harder than he had since his peak in 1959 on the grounds of what is now the White Cliffs Country Club in Plymouth, MA –whipping himself into search-and-destroy shape at 208 lbs. Reporters swarmed and Liston’s mood swung between sullen and surly, even worse than usual. Ten sparring partners became casualties and some ended up in the hospital. Liston didn’t even have “Night Train” playing because the beat was too slow for a new pace of training. He was hell-bent on redemption. “When I catch him,” Liston promised, “you’ll know I’m bitter.”
It wasn’t all “meanness” with Sonny. He was known to be gentle with children and impulsively generous with the down-and-out. At times, he seemed to yearn for the peace his life and his choices never allowed. One evening at White Cliffs, Sonny noticed a beautiful scarlet sunset over Cape Cod Bay. “Look at there," he said to a reporter for Sports Illustrated, extending his giant hand and pointing to the horizon, "Isn't that the most beautifulest sight you've ever seen?”
He didn’t know it yet, but the setting sun’s appearance was inauspicious.
Friday the 13th was just a few days later and Ali was rushed by ambulance to Boston City Hospital for an emergency hernia operation. The fight was called off. Liston growled: “If he didn’t carry on in the street the way he did he wouldn’t have hurt himself.” Ali was no less disappointed. “I was really in the best shape of my life as was Sonny. Now all that hard work has gone down the drain,” he said. “Everything was set up. Now I have to sit back for another six months. It was such a letdown for me and for Sonny. All that work for a man his age.”
A man his age. Liston dissipated. He was picked up for drunk driving in December and got into it with ten policemen who had to wrestle him into a cell. Reporters noticed that he was looking “heavier and haggard”.
He spent Christmas in jail.
The infamous rematch ended up in a high school hockey arena in Lewiston, Maine. Ali came in four pounds less but was noticeably bigger than the previous year with inches added to his thighs, biceps, and forearms. Liston was simply older. Whatever fire he had captured at White Cliffs was gone.
Suspiciously, Liston was installed as a nine-to-five favorite.
Ali began round one bouncing and shifting and flicking shots. He landed one hard right hand and Sonny reacted as if it were a caress. Liston was moving in when Ali’s back was near the ropes, he threw a left jab and Ali came over with a right hand that was far more innocent than the previous one… and Liston went down. The fiasco that followed is incidental. Liston’s performance was anything but.
There are those who believe that Liston’s first round knockout was on the level. Others meet it halfway and consider the knockdown legitimate but assert that his refusal to get up suggested something else. Sonny himself spoke of it before the California Boxing Commission and stated that the knockdown was indeed real but that he refused to get up because Ali was standing over him. This doesn’t fit the film. Sonny was too busy trying vainly to make it look like he was hurt. He wasn’t even looking at the big butterfly fluttering about.
The fact is Liston had an exceptional chin. Mike DeJohn proved it. Cleveland Williams proved it. Cops did too –with hickory nightsticks. After Marty Marshall landed the right that broke his jaw, he said, "I never knew he was hurt. You hit him with your Sunday punch but he don't grunt, groan, flinch or blink. He don't do nothing; he just keeps coming on. He’s discouraging that way.”
Ali landed a flicking punch thrown with his legs out of position and no leverage. His first response to Liston’s going down was outrage and it is memorialized in perhaps the most famous boxing photograph ever snapped. “Get up you yellow dog!” –Ali’s shout at the horizontal Liston is frozen in time. It was only later that Ali and company came up with his “anchor punch” spin for posterity’s sake. It’s understandable. Dives taint both fighters, but a first round KO of the impossibly strong Sonny Liston after previously stopping him is a fitting aftershock for the world.
For all Floyd Patterson knew, everything was on the level. He went to Liston’s dressing room after the bout. Liston sat there alone, staring at something far off with that permanent scowl that wasn’t a scowl. Floyd said, “I know how you feel. I’ve been experienced this myself.” Sonny didn’t acknowledge him. Finally, Floyd went to walk out and Sonny ran up, put a hand on Floyd’s shoulder and said “thanks”.
Liston became a persona non grata after the fiasco. He fought on against mostly nondescript opposition in Sweden and then returned to fight a 6’4 truck driver named Bill McMurray. By this point it is not unlikely that Liston was forty years old, although he still had the strength of ten men. With Ali stripped of his title and out of the picture, Sonny was fixing his sites on Joe Frazier by 1968. Emboldened with a fourth round KO of McMurray, a new trainer in Dick Sadler (who would also train George Foreman) and Sammy Davis Jr.’s interest in his career, Liston was feeling upbeat. “I’ll beat [Frazier],” he declared. “I won’t have to chase him. It’ll be like shooting fish in a barrel.”
Henry Clark was ranked ninth by Ring Magazine when Liston faced him four months after McMurray. Liston won every round behind a jab and became the first man to stop him. Amos Lincoln was his eleventh straight KO since the Ali rematch, and Lincoln ended up draped over the ropes for three minutes while his handlers tried to revive him.
The old ex-champion was coming on, straight for Frazier, and the boxing world was buzzing. It couldn’t last if the word on the street was accurate though, and the word was that Liston was boozing it up regularly and addicted to heroin. It couldn’t last because Liston was Liston. Leotis Martin put an end to Liston’s redemption delusions and brought the sheep in with a right hand, followed by a left hook and another right. Liston fell hard and didn’t move. There wasn’t much doubt that this was his only legitimate knockout loss.
Liston’s last bout was held in Jersey City in June 1970 against Chuck Wepner. A strangely silent guest appeared at the back of the armory where the fight was held: it was Muhammad Ali. Ali remained confused and fascinated by his predecessor for many years after their bouts and admitted that Liston scared him. He once went so far as to privately claim that “Liston was the Devil.” Either way, Liston was applauded as he entered the ring against the 6’5, 228 lb challenger.
It was a brutal fight; and Liston wins those.
Wepner, stopped after nine rounds, was in shock for three days after the bout with a broken nose, a broken left cheekbone, and seventy-two stitches to close his face. Sonny had hopes that this, his 50th victory, would qualify him for a bout against Jerry Quarry. It was not to be.
The Grim Reaper showed up instead, tapping him on one of those massive shoulders. Sonny Liston died alone, probably on December 29, 1970, and apparently from a drug overdose. No one really knows. Black daisies sprang up in the bedroom where his body lay for days before anyone found him.
It was a brutal life; and no one wins those.
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Information concerning Malcolm X and Elijah Muhammad derived from Alex Haley’s “The Autobiography of Malcolm X” and “New Muslims”, a publication by the Islamic Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (ISESCO). “Liston was the Devil” comment found in Nick Tosches “The Devil and Sonny Liston”, p. 219. Unless otherwise acknowledged, information for this article was also derived from contemporary editions of the New York Times. Gregory Toledo can be contacted at scalinatella@hotmail.com
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MisterLee:
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Awesome.
Wednesday Jun 3, 2009 02:06:44 PM
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brownsugar:
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deeply rich writing,.. although watching the replay (when slowed down) you could see Listons head snap to the side as it recoiled from the blow,... I believe the knockdown was real,.. but I also believe that Liston could have gotten up,.. I think it was Liston's fatalistic tendancy to stay down rather than be out classed,.. I guess this can argued forever,(Liston was reportedly a Mob Goon).. But Ali had a date with distiny,.. it seemed like Ali survived many close shaves and dire situations where he was within a hairs breath of facing defeat as if History itself was preordained to prevent him from failing so that he would ultimately evolved into legend that "shook the world",.. some good details about Liston who possessed the kind of natural strength and gifts that a man has to be born with,.. like so many others,...it's a shame he wasn't motivated to be more professsional or take better care of himself,.. and the bulk of his potential lies in a grave....
Wednesday Jun 3, 2009 03:17:50 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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I wish a lesser known photo was chosen. Most every boxing fan has seen this side of Sonny. Overall, this is a good snapshot of the facts. Liston may have been caught off balance when he was knocked down by Ali up in Lewiston. But I don't believe Sonny was out for a second. Whether the mob had anything to do with him staying down or if it was his own shame and defeatism, no one can know. Up or down, he would have lost to Ali anyway. Ali was just too young, too fast and too competitive for a man in his forties. It's hard to sympathize with a known strikebreaker, street mugger and mob thug. But Sonny had no sympathy for himself either. He was a unhappy guy who believed he was unloved on every front. When he won the title, no one greeted him at the airport. Liston had lots of scars from the beatings his dad gave him. "I had bad dealings with my father," Sonny would say. As an adult, his jailhouse years were as grim as anyone's. The inmates knew not to mess with him, but the jailers worked him over good when he rebelled. Add to that depression, drug and alcohol addiction and a lot of fake mobster friends, you've got a recipe for a bitter decline. Few of us would rise above such demons to become anything. Sonny became heavyweight champion of the world.
Wednesday Jun 3, 2009 06:18:42 PM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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Hum! I gotta reread this masterpiece a couple of time before I reply. For in that cold Las Vegas grave, the boxing power that be didn't even have the kindness or decency to put a tombstone on Sonny's grave. For years everytime that a passenger jet flew over that cemetery, I wondered if people knew that Sonny was buried in tombstoneless spot. Holla!
Wednesday Jun 3, 2009 07:30:17 PM
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Alokwe:
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Nice read but it makes the same mistake most re-tellings of this fight do. Liston did get up and he and Ali continued to fight until the ref was informed that Sonny had stayed down too long, it was only then the ref stopped the fight.
Thursday Jun 4, 2009 02:11:13 AM
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Robert Curtis:
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The second Ali vs. Liston fight has got to be available online. Everyone should watch it just so they know what they are talking about. Liston went down. Ali stayed over Liston shouting down at him. Liston was down a good long while. The count started late. Liston then got up. The fight started again. Then the ref confered with the timekeeper who said Liston had been down for a ten count. So the ref decided to stop the fight while both men were unhurt and on their feet. I know there are Ali fight collections available which show the whole contest, including Jersey Joe Walcott's awkward and timid efforts that night as the referee. Sonny's greatest fights were probably against deputy jailers and the St. Louis PD. Too bad he didn't get an earlier start in the ring. By the time Sonny fought Ali, he was past retirement age. Anyway, maybe that's enough memory lane for a while.
Thursday Jun 4, 2009 09:35:05 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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Wow! Bobby C, anyone could go to Youtube to see those bouts. Holla!
Thursday Jun 4, 2009 11:41:45 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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I will just call this a very nice piece and leave it at that. There is a saying about not speaking "ill of the death." To this day, nobody really knows exact how Sonny Liston die. Every person who I know who knew Sonny, said that he was spooked by needles, so he didn't die of an overdose of heroin. Many believe that a hit squard of mafia tough a$$es stuck him. There are rumor to this day that several hoodum-looking cats invaded his room shortly after his wife left to catch a flight to Denver -- one of Sonny's residence. Very good, masterpiece writng, G-To. Holla!
Thursday Jun 4, 2009 12:12:46 PM
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dr3r42:
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No, Sonny was not past retirement age when he fought Ali. That's the garbage of Liston apologists or people trying to build Sonny up into a Superman (they have to find away around his losses to Ali). TSS writer Aaron Tallent did an article on Liston years ago (it's still in the archievs) when he produced the 1930 US Census as his proof that Lison was not 40 or even 35 when he fought Ali.
The 1930 Census from St Francis County Arkansas listed Sonny's father (Tobe) his mother and older brothers and sisters, but no Sonny. why ? BECAUSE HE WAS NOT BORN YET. Unless you guys think that there was some type of conspiracy with the Liston family in 1930. I mean they listed his older siblings, what did they forget about Sonny ? All in all, the article was practically word for word from Tosches' book, which painted Liston into a mythical figure (good copy) and had a ton of excuses for all of his failures.
Thursday Jun 4, 2009 01:00:58 PM
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Anonymous user:
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I would love to have seen Liston - Frazier.
Thursday Jun 4, 2009 01:57:00 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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Hey, dr342. You may be right. You may be wrong. But you really don't know and neither do I. Babies born into sharecropper families weren't born in hospitals very often. Whatever. Ali himself said that Sonny Liston was "forty years old if he's a day" in the pre-fight hype. There's available footage of him shouting it out at press conferences. Was The Greatest lying? Okay. I said I was going to shut up about memory lane.
Friday Jun 5, 2009 12:36:17 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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Wow! I don't know who dr3r42 is, but he is spot one about Sonny's age. Nonetheless, this is the legacy of the hurt business -- fibs about ages and heights. Somebody somewhere in the game is either much than he is being reported or much older. Much shorter than he is reported, barely ever taller. Holla!
Friday Jun 5, 2009 07:34:52 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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****id either much younger than he is being reported or much older....
Friday Jun 5, 2009 10:48:48 AM
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Radam G, a humble PacManite:
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*****is either much younger than he is being reported or much older....
Friday Jun 5, 2009 10:49:32 AM
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dr3r42:
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Robert- Sonny's older brothers and sisters wern't born in a hospital neither, but they are on the 1930 census. I am not argueing about birth certificates or about whether a guy was born in a hospital or not, I am arguing about a 1930 census form that Liston's family gave to the census taker who came to their house. What, did they remember everyone in the family except Sonny (they remembered Sonny's infant brother, who was only months old in 1930) ? Click on Aaron Tallent's name and go read his TSS article- he explains it better than I do. And if you're still not convinced- then I don't know what to tell you.
Friday Jun 5, 2009 11:03:47 AM
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MisterLee:
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Just saw liston patterson 1! 3 easy knockdowns for liston. Must have had some killer power! :)
Saturday Jun 6, 2009 02:26:45 PM
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Ron Lipton:
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The Ali V Liston II gloves are for sale for serious investors.
Contact Ron Lipton
Saturday Jun 6, 2009 10:24:29 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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Read the Tallent article. Thin stuff. As I said before, no on knows Liston's real date of birth. I look at Liston's face in the photos during his Ali bouts and he looks like an aging strongman. Even if he was 35, he was facing a 22 year old Muhammad Ali.
Thursday Jun 11, 2009 11:10:29 PM
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dr3r42:
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Let me explain Tallent's article to you- slowly. In 1930 a US Government Census taker went to Tobin Liston's shack in St Francis County Arkansas- he asked either Tobin or his wife Helen to give him the names and ages of everyone living at that residence (as all census takers did back then). They then gave him their names and the names and ages of their 6 children. Sonny wasn't on the list, which means he wasn't alive in 1930 ! (it was against the law to lie on a census form or to a census taker- plus what advantage would it be to the Liston's to conceal sonny's birth from a census taker ?) So if he was born AFTER 1930 ( either in 1931 or 1932) then the oldest he could possibly be in February 1964 is 33 years old- simple math. Not 40, not 35 like you're suggesting- but either 31, 32, or a young 33 (or even younger). Odds are he was born in 1932,since that's when his mother said he was born (I think she may have a better idea than anyone).
Friday Jun 12, 2009 12:49:37 PM
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dr3r42:
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As far as "Old" Sonny facing a 22 year old Ali, Ali wasn't in his prime either. Ali was coming off of two lousy performences against Henry Cooper (when he was dropped) and Doug Jones. He certainly improved between Jones/Cooper and his first fight with Liston. But his peak (at least during his first title stint) was probably late 1966 (Williams) or 1967 with Foley. His body filled out and he matured while in his mid 20's. Not saying Sonny was in his prime (hard to tell of the Patterson fights since they were so short), but he wasn't an old man and he certainly appeared formidable. Style-wise, Ali usually ate up big, slow heavies who depended on landing their thudding jabs. Guys like Liston, Foreman, Terrelle, Mac Foster, ect.- gave Ali a big target, and his hand and foot speed was magnified. I don't think any version of Sonny beats the "66-67" Ali (nor the 64 or 71 version). Thing is, even if those big slow guys land a lucky shot, Ali's chin's strong enough to absorb it.
Friday Jun 12, 2009 01:01:55 PM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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