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You Mean Boxing Isn't A Dying Sport?
By Raymond Markarian
Just about the time Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao hit the scales for the weigh-in for their much anticipated bout on Saturday, May 2nd, my plane descending to Las Vegas. Unfortunately for me, the weigh-in started at 3pm on Friday and I landed at 3:30. So, the frenzied image of Ricky Hattonites screaming and hollering their catchy-like-the-flu songs was only in my head. No, I did not witness the weigh-in but I had a very clear view of the destruction Pacquiao laid on Hatton on Saturday.
At about 10pm Friday night, I received an email from Monica Sears, the Public Relations Coordinator for Golden Boy Promotions, regarding a 12pm press conference to announce Floyd Mayweather’s return to the ring against Juan Manuel Marquez. I woke up the next morning juiced about the entire day. There were rumors swirling for months about a Mayweather return. It is no secret that he has been regularly training once again. But to hear it officially from the man himself makes it that much better.
Near the front entrance of the Hollywood Theater at the MGM Grand, where the announcement was being made, I bumped into Virgil Hunter, Andre Ward’s trainer. Hunter has been working with Ward in Las Vegas in preparation for Ward’s fight against Edison Miranda on May 16th. The trainer and I differed on our predictions for Hatton/Pacquiao, he chose Hatton, and I liked Pacquiao. But most of our conversation was about the Mayweather return.
“He was never retired. It was a business decision to stay away,” Hunter said about Mayweather. “This is not pride fighting, it is prize fighting.” Hunter believes that Mayweather took the time off to create big money fights with Cotto, and the new pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao. His logic holds truths, there were not many fighters that could have created the financial clout to fight Floyd back in 2007, at least not a mainstream fighter anyway, so now, with the time off, new stars have come into landscape.
The press conference started with a brunch at 11am--which is always nice… can’t beat Vegas food--then the formalities began at 12. Richard Schaefer, the President of Golden Boy Promotions, spoke first, followed by Oscar De la Hoya, who said that “we can no longer believe in the bigger man defeating the smaller man.” Especially after Mayweather and Pacquiao defeated the Golden Boy in 2007 and 2008, right? Marquez sounded pleased about the fight. And Floyd Mayweather was his usual brash self, teasing Oscar De la Hoya with every opportunity.
After the announcements were made it was time for the roughly 100 media members to do their grunt work. Staying true to my profession, I made my rounds with the fighters and promoters to get some one-on-one information. Marquez and Mayweather were instantly bombarded by the horde. But De la Hoya looked approachable and ready to answer questions. He was in the process of informing a few media members the catch weight of the bout; 143 pounds was what he said originally, but it seems unofficial.
When I asked De la Hoya to give an opinion on the best way to defeat the undefeated Floyd Mayweather, De la Hoya said, “The jab. Jab, jab, jab, that is the best way to beat Mayweather, keeping throwing the jab. That is what we are advising Marquez to do. Mayweather does not like the jab. It bothers him. Floyd Sr. told me that. It was working for me against him, but I stopped throwing it.”
I thanked the future Hall of Famer then walked towards the star attraction. Mayweather’s charisma is clearly evident. No matter how one feels about “Money May,” most have to be pleased about his return to the ring.
As one could expect, Mayweather was gloating about his lifestyle, his fighting skills, and his money to crowd of media members that surrounded him. At one point, Mayweather also went as far to say that there should be two Pound for Pound lists, a P4P list for all the best fighters in the world besides himself, and a “Mayweather list.” When asked who else is included on the Mayweather list, the Pretty Boy said “No one. I shouldn’t even be on a list. I am that good.”
When it was my turn to question the returning champ, I brought up the comments spoken a few moments before by Oscar De la Hoya. Did he agree defending the jab is his greatest weakness? I wanted to hear it from the “Money Man” himself.
“How is Oscar going to tell you how to beat me, when I already beat his (expletive),” Mayweather said, annoyed. “He tried to do the same thing with Ricky Hatton. You saw that, but what happened? I put another checkmark in my book. I should go over there and beat his (expletive) right now,” Mayweather finished, with more mirth. Mayweather made his resentment clear about De la Hoya. And he guaranteed a Golden Boy comeback fight in the near future.
There was an ecstatic energy on fight night. Ricky Hatton’s entrance into the ring made me feel like I was in the middle of Mother Russia, witnessing the entrance of Ivan Drago at the end of Rocky IV. The crowd went nuts when Hatton was being introduced. But the sound of English unity drowned in the deafening roar of Manny Pacquiao fans after the impressive second round KO. Waves of English fans left the arena quickly after Ricky Hatton lights went out, others, impressively dutiful or perhaps execessively intoxicated, continued chanting his name.
The post fight press conference did not tell us much more than we already know. Bob Arum stated that he will wait until the June 13th fight between Joshua Clottey and Miguel Cotto to decide Pacquiao’s next opponent. Cotto seems like the logical choice. But he also wants to keep Pacquiao busy. So a Pacquiao fight in November 2009 is in the plans regardless.
During the post fight, Shane Mosley sat at the far end of the podium. It is no secret that the Southern California native has been pursuing a big money fight since defeating Antonio Margarito four months ago. As Pacquiao was finishing up his comments, Mosley lightly tapped on the microphone in front of his chair and asked Pacquiao for a fight. But Pacquiao didn’t hear a word Mosley said to him.
It was a strange scene. Mosley, the greatly respected competitor in and out of the ring, did not want to disrupt Manny Pacquiao’s special night. So instead of rudely interrupting Pacquiao (a la Antonio Tarver when he challenged Roy Jones Jr. after the John Ruiz fight in 2003) Mosley did not press the issue. He nobly sat back and allowed the man of the hour to relish his victory.
In Mosley’s defense Bob Arum mentioned his name as a possible opponent for Manny Pacquiao during the post fight press conference. Arum, caught up in the moment, also compared Pacquiao to a young Muhammad Ali. It was a heady time, with a shocking decimation to savor, along with the re-entry of the controversial icon Mayweather to the sport. Arum could be forgiven...
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Radam G aka Humble PRG back from Vegas FAT-pocketed:
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Fightwriter Ray Mark, ditto on your script! Hmmm, I know a con when I see one, as the GOAT Ali used to shout. Mosley is good at boxing, but even better at running a game and a con that he is better than he is. I hope that he and his alley cat trainer are tricked into really tangling with AGOAT PacMan. Manny will break Mosley's nose, jaw, eye sockets, ears, con, and myth, while getting righteously paid with "da suckas who are born every minute's" money. He'll need china chinned Vitali K's son's pee-pee in large quantities when it's all said and done. If Mosley tangles with Manny, it will last just four rounds because, instead of knocking SSM out in two minutes of the first round, PacMan will showboat, entertain the fans, and keep the crime in the Philippines to ZERO. Holla!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 12:04:39 PM
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ali:
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Oscar shut up with the jab is how you beat Mayweather you stop using it cause he started to counter it with the right hand over the top. Marquez don't listen to Oscar do what you do every time he gives someone advice they lose.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 12:19:18 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG 4 real:
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Nice piece, Fightwriter RayMark. Like always, you have done some sharp-eyed boxing journalist reporting. My man Virgil Hunter is righteously CORRECT. It is and will always be the "prize fighting," not "pride fighting". All these hating suckas in this universe who are always talking about legacy and pride, should go to the 'PRIDE" fighting of the UFC or the MMA. This game is the hurt (bitnezz) business. It is all about making money and getting hurt the less, so you can keep "'em purses comin.' Holla!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 12:29:05 PM
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ali:
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I heard Freddie Roach say if Mosley wants to fight Pac it going to have to be at a catch weight. If Mosley goes below 147 hes going to be a drain fighter I wonder if he is going to ask Cotto to fight at a catch weight. If he's does'nt that let me know Pac camp is scared to fight Mosley.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 12:29:30 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Money May has always had an aim of tangling with Cotto. But Cotto messed it up by jiggerbugging himself out of victory with Margahero whoop-azz, not an iota of "plaster of paris disaster." Margahero came to fight. Cotto came to dance like he was on some type of cotton or somethin.' Holla!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 12:33:14 PM
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Radam. Rare double entry. 1. "back from Vegas FAT-pocketed." 2. ..."and keep the crime in the Philippines to ZERO." Great, great stuff, Radam!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 12:51:39 PM
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Smiley C:
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Get off it, ali! Since when do big-butt fighters call out little men? Yea! Back in the day, Larry Holmes would've looked really stupid calling out Marvin Hagler for whupping Holmes' little brother. Give me one reason, why Manny should go up and fight Mosley? Mosley wants the fight, so do what it takes to get it. Holla!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 01:33:09 PM
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rudy:
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Arum & GBP SHOULD make Cotto/Clottey winner vs Mosley and & Money Pacquiao vs JMM/PBF winner. Its what makes the most sense and what the fans want.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 01:36:25 PM
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The real Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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"Props out to" my clone. That was his "great, great stuff, Radam!" Ain't that cat good? I don't know why he doesn't just come out and be himself. He knows how to HOLLA with some RIGHTEOUS "great, great stuff" umpteen times. And I'm to humble to take his thundering cameo. Holla!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 01:42:17 PM
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Big Ste:
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Floyd may be a decent boxer in the ring but the guy has ZERO class outside of the ring. The actions of Manny and Ricky pre and post May 2nd showed what great warriors and strong minded, confident men they are, in the ring and out of it. All of Floyds arrogance and mouthing off isn't even tongue in cheek like Ali, he just comes across as a narcissistic little shit. I like personalities in boxing but this boy is just plain spoilt. He needs to ditch all his hangers on and go to work, quit this retirement charade and sign up to fight Manny.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 02:04:23 PM
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Come on guys, it's called a build up to a fight. How much has Floyd mouthed off the last year? Close to none. Know why? B/c he ain't the alter ego he exudes, he's a great guy, a little insecure, but he knows how to hype a fight. If you love him or hate him, he's got you, and your gonna buy is fight just to see him win or lose. The promoters gotcha! :)
Wednesday May 6, 2009 02:17:21 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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You are right, MisterLee. Money May is a quietish type in person. Holla!
Wednesday May 6, 2009 02:24:12 PM
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MisterLee:
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Is that Dan Rafael in the right of the photo? He looks like a school girl who just saw Zack Elfman :).
Wednesday May 6, 2009 02:25:16 PM
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AFisherG@MisterLee:
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or one of the Jonas Bros....
Wednesday May 6, 2009 03:22:47 PM
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ali:
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SMILEY C: He fought Oscar at 147 so why not fight Mosley should Cotto have to do the same thing.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 05:07:27 PM
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oskar:
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Manny weighs 148 something fight night against with Oscar when he fought Hatton he weigh 148 so they figure Manny is better at 140. If he face Mosley or Cotto at 147 he's going to weigh most probably 148, Mosley and Cotto already got all the advantage in height and weight, catch weight is to lessen some of that weight advantage. Ask Floyd Jr why not fought Mosley and Cotto at least Manny is considering them. Well I guess JMM is a better choice for Floyd Jr. Lol
Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:16:40 PM
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MisterLee:
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AfisherG, you know it! Christmas in May! (no pun intended...) Oscar hasn't fought welterweight in 5-7 years, mosley's last bout was at welterweight, and he just beat the best welterweight in the world before the handwraps issue. Mosley is the best welterweight in the world, roach and manny both consider themselves happy at jr. welterweight now, and they only picked on oscar b/c he was past his prime and couldn't pull the trigger based on Roach training him. Sometimes I feel like I"m talking to a Marg fan...
Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:20:38 PM
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oskar:
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MisterLee, they didn't picked Oscar its the other way around, Oscar called Manny but it back fired.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 06:34:54 PM
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One thing this article (and Floyd's classless quotes) tells me is how near impossible it is for floyd to every be recognized as one of the greatest of all time. Which by the way, Floyd, is something we tell you....you don't tell us. It is a consensus that is based as much on performance in the ring as it is perception and illusion. Plus a dash of marketing. Floyd generates hate....not because he is great. He may just be. It';s because he has so little real charisma and he compensates with brash offensive comments that put him just this side of Miranda. His comments about oscar are ridiculous. Now, consider those we mention as GOAT. Start with Ali. Ali beat Liston on when I was ten. I saw the whole act. Read every word. He said too much most of the time....but always tongue in cheek. He enjoyed getting a rise out of his audience and his opponent. He built the gate. Then he fought every opponent in their prime.... often twice....win or lose. He backed up everything in the ring. PBF is a very very talented boxer but not really much of a showman. His out of the ring act is not even in Ali's league. It i, as Big Ste say, classless. He deserves respect as a boxer...and the hate of those who don't care for his style in or out of the rinf. He's earned it.
Wednesday May 6, 2009 08:20:27 PM
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MisterLee:
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Steve Kim made a good point about Pacquiao: "They also believed that he was considered the best fighter in the world pound-for-pound only by default because of the hiatus taken by one Floyd Mayweather Jr." ("All Time Pacquiao, maxboxing). Yep and that changed. Right now Mayweather can still be considered a p4p, but Pacqiuao has earned p4p and an AGOAT position, and perhaps runner up for a TGOAT position. Mayweather is struggling to be a BOOE (best of our era), we know he might be a FHOF'er, but I think above all, he's a little jealous that Pacquiao has all the limelight and is doing better things than him and Manny's got the media talking. I guess Mayweather never thought he'd be outdone, especially after that impressive and hard-fought victory against Baldomir! What a war! :) Okay here are some dream bouts baby.... Pacquiao vs. Ricardo Torres, Victor Ortiz vs. Torres, Clottey vs. Williams, Angulo vs. Williams, Clottey vs. Mayweather, Cotto vs. Victor Ortiz at 147 (in the future, won't that be exciitng? Ortiz has disposed of a common opponent of Hatton and Cotto at 140 named Maussa in less time than the other guys), Gomez vs. Zab Judah (one of them gotta survive!), Collazo vs Berto II, Berto vs. Clottey, Mayweather vs. Angulo, Valero vs. Nate Campbell, Bradley vs. Pacquiao. That's it for now. Would like to hear what anyone thinks of those match ups, especially Torres vs. Pacquiao, or Victor Ortiz vs. Miguel Cotto at 147 ( i think ortiz would expose his weak chin again,esp since he's a southpaw that pressures, is patient, has great defense, and to me, a more compact and stronger power punch than Cotto). Pc out! :)
Thursday May 7, 2009 04:56:01 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG givin' props 2 ___:
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MisterLee, you are getting righteously witty with your posts. I like it. Asians are up in the hizhouze! Or maybe you are just stealing my thoughts -- "darn thought snatcher." Now you know you ain't right -- snatching people's thoughts. I was just getting ready to proclaim the great PacMan as almost "TGOAT." Gosh! I better quit thinking out so loud. Next you will be in the hurt bitnezz, in a boxer's corner in that squared jungle shouting out: "Knock the thought out of his noggin without taggin' 'em." What is the game coming to? We have a Bluecoat (Buffalo soldier) who quickly turned into a blueboat and sailed away from Redcoat Ricky's arse. We have a darn mermaid (Ann Wolfe) with a Texas Cowboy "Mandingo Warrior," who cannot stay out of jail for buying guns. And I thought that those Mandingoes used spears. But I guess in Texas, it guns. We have a darn genie giving people the power to "swim without getting wet." And we have a Coach Roach who is no joke, teaching the little man to knock the fudge out of the big man. "A good, big man always beat a good, little man" is a deadly myth when it come to Coach "No Joke" Roach. Don't try to step on that Roach, he will set your arse on FIIRRREEEE! Holla!
Thursday May 7, 2009 10:54:04 AM
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Too funny. Hahhaa... your def. a p4p. haha.... you can write without smearing ink..... type without spellcheck... create rhymes without messing up the meter or rhyme scheme, hyperbolize without exaggerating.... too good.
Thursday May 7, 2009 12:48:09 PM
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lmao no good fights for floyd in 07 i guess the 8 mill they offered him to fight margarito wasnt enuff there was also cotto or mosley he cant avoid real welterweights for the rest of his career when is he gonna stop pickin on lil guys like hatton n marquez n gatti n corrales or an old ass oscar n fight a true welterweight
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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