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MIKE TYSON: Man, Myth, Movie
By Phil Woolever
INSIDE CELLULOID RINGPOSTS - "Tyson", the autobiographical documentary of boxing's mercurial mauling icon "Iron" Mike by director James Tobak that garnished a strong reception at the Cannes and Sundance film festivals, posted respectable numbers after limited release openings in Los Angeles and New York last Friday.
"The first question we ask is who am I?" muses an isolated, on-camera Tyson in setting the piece's introspective philosophical tone.
Apparently there are still tons of ticket buying folks interested in whatever that answer might be.
Opening weekend grosses for the eleven theatres that screened the 90 minute movie were estimated by Variety at $85,982. That might not sound like much in the world of multi-million dollar blockbusters, but the per screen average showed plenty of promise for more widespread release, and per-capita it easily beat "The Informers" starring Billy Bob Thornton, Mickey Rourke, Winona Ryder and Kim Basinger.
"Obsessed" was the weekend's biggest moneymaker. Beautiful Beyonce may be more of a dramatic draw than the scarred former champion these days, but there are still plenty of customers leaning toward the cult of personality type obsession that came following Tyson's decades of glamorous glory and train wreck falls from grace.
It appears Tyson's star power lasted much longer than his left hook. The fighter's flick is a New York Times' "Critics Pick", amongst other cinematic accolades from major outlets.
So far, the film by Sony Pictures Classics has received far more generally positive reviews than the individual has recently. Whatever your opinion on Tyson, the man remains a highly publicized, popular subject in the public forum for what is usually a vastly polarizing debate in the realm of celebrity status.
Numerous non-boxing websites I've monitored show heavy response to Tyson on a purely personal level. Most readers' posts often have absolutely nothing to say about the film. Tyson seemingly has a two-way, love/hate relationship with the American mainstream.
At the Hollywood premiere, Tyson looked a bit sheepish as he posed for red carpet photos alongside the movie poster and hobnobbed with people like Warren Beatty, Annette Bening, and Carl Weathers. Tyson looked much more comfortable standing by Sugar Ray Leonard and Shane Mosley.
It seemed Tyson was studying viewers' reaction to the blunt, historical picture which features plenty of classic fight scene footage in addition to a high resolution individual image of Tyson as he sits alone in an oceanfront property and reflects upon himself and his life.
"I watched it privately and said 'good', but I never watched it in a conglomerate of people (like this)," said Tyson at the LA opening. "There's things I wish I didn't say in there."
It would be interesting to find out what those things were. Tyson doesn't shy away from the shadows in his past, like revealing that he had gonorrhea when he became the youngest heavyweight titlist after pummeling Trevor Berbick in 1986.
Tyson's intriguing narrative ranges from early thug days to meeting world leaders to his prison time on a rape conviction to how his hands felt as he put the gloves on.
"To be honest, I'm a jerk sometimes," he intones, or "I come and I have supreme confidence, but I'm scared to death."
Women, for better or worse, were always a "magnetic force".
On Don King: "This is supposed to be my black brother. He's just a wretched, slimy, reptilian mother..."
With his Maori tattoo and the scar tissue in the corner of his eyes, Tyson's self portrait is indeed a riveting contradiction, perhaps like Tyson himself. It is just as easy to sympathize as it is to find deep faults.
In Manhattan at a glitzy gathering to hype the movie's New York release, a diverse group that included Joe Frazier, Ice-T, Christopher Walken, and Republican National Chairman Michael Steele, whose sister Monica Turner is one of Tyson's former wives, showed their support.
Also on hand was rapper Nas, whose especially written song "Legendary" is the film's theme. In an era where items ranging from cheap food products to second rate entertainment can be designated a legend, at least Tyson's triumphs and failures seem legitimately worthy of the term.
Toback and Damon Bingham are credited as the project's primary producers, but Nas is included in a reported group of others, including hoops star Carmello Anthony, who had a hand in production.
As varied shades of lighting play across the highlights, soft spots, and timelines of Tyson's aging face, different countenances come and go.
Like the piles of publicly posted responses that range from damning insults to blind eternal devotion, there is at least a little bit of truth in many examples from opposite sides. The film seems to offer it's own truths from different sides of Tyson.
"If I have any anger, if it's directed at anyone, it's directed at myself," concludes Tyson.
I hope that's true, because it used to be different. I hope Tyson has found a productive, comfortable lifestyle he can continue to embrace.
My own perspective on Mike Tyson, based on many hours of public observation, dozens of brief chats, and a few extended private interactions, is very favorable. I don't blame you if you disagree, but personally Tyson has always treated me well.
I like the guy.
"Once I'm in the ring, I'm a God," says Tyson.
How true it was. How false it was.
See, with hindsight, for yourself.
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brownsugar:
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oh,.. no wonder I couldn't find it at best buy,.. Make the damn thing direct-to-home video already,.. any tell-all documentary about Mike should be enjoyed while reclining on your favorite couch while sipping on your favority beverage,.. as you and you're friends pscho-analyze and methodically break down one of the most compelling boxing careers in sports history...
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 04:44:25 PM
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Big Ste:
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The guy was a troubled young man surrounded by clever 80's media hype and the worst entourage of wankers since Ali but he was a legend to me and was electric to watch in the 80's. I just wish Cus D'Amato had not been so old and ill and had more years with Mike. I think he wouldn't have overlooked so much of the troubles that were startingto surface outside the ring and would have been a mentor and much needed father figure to keep him improving as a fighter and a man. Instead Cus died and the ultimate snake Don King ate his soul. Thanks for the memories inside the ring Mike. You were nearly the greatest. x
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 05:06:16 PM
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Shep:
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He had the ability to be the best of all time, but like Judge Cowart said to serial killer Ted Bundy in a steamy Miami courtroom back when Holmes was champ, "You went another way partner. Take care of yourself, because we're going to run a sufficient amount of electricity through your body to cause your immediate death." Hopefully it wasn't immediate. In any event, I still believe the Tyson of 1986 - 1988 would have given ANY man SERIOUS difficulty. People forget, Tyson had one hell of a granite chin. An absolutely underrated chin, particularly in his prime.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 05:54:21 PM
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Roma:
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He still ranks as a top 20 all-time heavyweight. Remember the electricity of Tyson? For those who were alive/adults and witnessed it, the Douglas upset was like none other. He was invincible at the time. Nothing compares to 2/10/90 in my mind -from a sports perspective- nothing. Probably will never witness something like that again.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 05:58:03 PM
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Peter Egley:
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Oh man I wanna see both the Tyson film and the Mickey Rourke "Informers" flick. I would love to see Mickey and Lili Taylor do a film.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 06:23:47 PM
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Fe'ROZ :
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Iron Mike! The man was...for the time he reigned...bigger than boxing. He was the last Heavyweight Champion to attract fans beyond the sport to their screens....whenever he fought. In fact, you couldn't look away. Not simply because of his primal destructive power. It was like looking at a car crash. You know you shouldn't look but you know you can't NOT look. Compelling is an understatement.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 06:34:17 PM
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MisterLee:
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Gosh, enough of this crap guy. I lost all respect for his after watching his HBO's beyond the glory. It's obvious this guy is insane, violent, and undeserving of public limelight. If you haven't seen beyond the glory, check it out on youtube, or you can probably find everything on boxingscene. Anyway, I think Tyson is a guy who can't make money from boxing any more, probably broke again, and needs the money from the docu. Pc out!
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 06:54:58 PM
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SNAPPER-1:
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it was definitely worth watching. better than i expected. tyson claims to have lost interest in boxing back in 1990 before the douglas fight. the guy kept fightting for another 15 yrs.
IMO: NO ONE in any sport ever dominated his/her sport in the manor that Tyson did in the 80's.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 06:55:11 PM
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Fistic Fury:
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It went sraight to dvd here in the UK and I snapped it up being both a huge fan and empaathiser of Tysons. I must say I shed afew tears when he talked of Cus, the way he talked was like he was feeling actual physical pain aswell as emotional, very sad...
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 07:25:00 PM
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the Roast:
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I don't know if I will ever watch this flick. I love this sport but I don't like these documentarys that drag you around the emotional dance floor. Did you guys see the one about Sugar Ray Robinson, Bright Lights and Dark Shadows? It was very informative but in the end it was depressing as hell. As for Tyson, for those of us who saw every moment of his rise and fall, it was like a train wreck. This dude was a real head case. So great and so insecure all at once. Tragic sort of. He could have been so much more.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 10:09:19 PM
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Son of Sam Peter:
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I don't think so MisterLee. I think it tells the tale of a very complicated figure that grew up in a violent world. If Tyson wanted attention, he'd do 'Dancing With The Stars', or something of that ilk, as opposed to an unflattering and brutally honest portrayal of what went down in his life. I don't think Tyson plays to the crowd. He is what he is, unabashedly.
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 11:07:10 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Wow! Docugandamentaries are in full effect. Apparently this one didn't hit Tyson below the belt like the full-of-$hit "Thrilla in Manila" did GOAT Muhammad Ali. I guess this stuff is making a lot of moola for the propagandists. Holla!
Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 11:33:05 PM
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Mitch & Murray - eradicate swine flu!:
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I can't wait to see it. Is Ferdie Pacheco interviewed at all? In 'Thrilla in Manilla', he scolded the questioner more than once, calling him stupid, commenting that he must have come from an accounting background, and urged him to retract a question because again, it would make him look stupid. That cat is one tough interview. My favorite Tyson moment? There are many. I've always had great affection for the Golota fight. Tyson appeared to be fully back at that point. Only Lewis had demolished him in such a way (and, according to reports, Golota had the flu going into that bout). It was as barbaric as it was brutal. In the end, Golota pulled a 'no mas' that rivaled only Duran's. The drama of Golota's trainer trying to shove the mouthpiece into his mouth, the great Pole's resistance, and then the trainer's decision to instead "shove it up his arse" -and he meant this FOR REAL- was a moment in boxing lore that will be talked about in 100 years. I believe it as Tyson's 3rd best win, behind Spinks and Mitch Green.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 08:15:45 AM
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Arthur:
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The best ring entrance of all time was Tyson's against Spinks (see youtube). I believe he entered to the theme song from A Clockwork Orange. These days, guys come in dancing to ridiculous rap songs (i.e. Cory Spinks), dancing, and making fools of themselves.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 08:32:26 AM
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MisterLee:
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I agree with the roast... actually everyone lived a horrible life in boxing, just b/c tyson was dominant for 5 years doesn't make him special to me. The guy tried to sexually harrass teddy atlas' daughter, and he beat up Robin Givens. Even when he was at his peak the guy was socially crazy. It was just kept under wraps. To add, when he was interviewing for the Lewis fight in the early 2000's, he was asking female reporters for hand jobs and stuff. That was fun. I feel real sorry for this guy. If anything, I been reading up on La Pantera, Edison MIranda b/c he's Andre Ward's next vic... i mean opponent, and the guy lived one helluva life. The guy got abandoned by his parents when he was born, then he confronted his uncle at age 12, met his mom, who abandoned him again! This guy lived a hard life! I think he was homeless too at some points. And you got tyson who was a street kid who became a boxing prodigy, a dime a dozen minus all his violence and deviance. I hope pple enjoy it, for me, I've written him off as a nutcase and hungry for attention. TSS Rules! Pc out! :)
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 08:57:57 AM
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Master Snake:
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What the hell are you talking about, Shep? You're the stooge who got dropped from the act, right? You just forgot the 'm' in your name you dolt! How does a courtroom judge's condemnation of a serial killer relate to Iron Mike? Tyson is one hell of a personality. And not a bad guy. You try life under a microscope. I believe the man is living with and supporting his children. A lot more than many men out there! He gave us excitement and entertainment.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 12:52:40 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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I saw a boxing documentary about Zaire once, but I don't know about this Uganda one Radam is talking about. I'm looking forward to Toback's "Tyson". Mike hurt a lot of folks both in the ring and out, but mostly in. Robin Givens got her pound of flesh out of Tyson, as did King and many others. There's lots of "what ifs" spinning around the Tyson mythology. Now we can only talk about what was. The heavyweight division is dead without men like Tyson and Ali and the great contenders of their days. I'd rather watch ten documentaries about Mike and Muhammad than waste time wondering what Chris Arreola ordered off the taco truck or which Klitscko sprained his groin yesterday.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 01:42:12 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG - da Redcoat is finished n 5 and da Blueboat will b sheding tears like a ____:
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Uganda? I don't have a clue about what you are spittin,' Bobby C. Have my clone been at it again? Wow! Just in case you're talking about my writing "docugandamentaries," that is Docu = docu, ganda = a part of the word -- propaganda -- and put ducu and mentaries together and you get documentaries. But when they are full of hateful propaganda and fronting as a documentary, you get docugandamentary. Chris Arreola is gonna shock and rock the world. Holla!
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 02:25:28 PM
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Kqwick:
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I agree with Robert Curtis. I'd watch Tyson "Beyond the Glory" 60 times before I'd spend any time on today's heavyweights. Chris Arreola has a better chance at dethroning that Chinese guy who eats the hot dogs than picking up a heavyweight strap.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 03:14:23 PM
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DaveB:
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Tyson is compelling. He did get a lot of bad breaks, from his parents, when Cus D'Amato died, when Jimmy Jacobs died, when Bill Cayton became his manager and when Don King came into his life. The guy trusted Jacobs and then finds that Jacobs tricked him into having Cayton as his sole manager upon Jacob's death. Mike hated Cayton. This helped Don King, who Tyson first distrusted, to gain his trust and set up that disaster. But even though Mike is a sympathy case there are others who have had it worse and have become better human beings than him. Why do some turn out one way and others another? That is one of those questions that are way to complex to answer. Tyson was gentle one moment and at another he would feel your girlfriend's butt and ask you what were you going to do about it. For some reason in his hey day you had to watch him and everyone talked about him. A lot of people say he was overrated now, no one was saying it then.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 07:52:48 PM
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MisterLee:
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Yo moron, the hotdog king is Japanese, get your ethnicities right. i found sugar ray leonards beyond the glory much more fascinating, and leonard is actually intelligent and well-spoken. Tyson was an icon and a phenom, but he's also a pervert and woman beater. That's how i see him. Pc out!
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 08:07:15 PM
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Guy:
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Mike Tyson is a perfect example of why sports figures and other celebrities should not be held up as role models for society. I was in high school when Mike was tearing through the heavyweights, and Tyson was my hero. Not only was he entertaining and devastating, but he was still respectful of his opponents and somewhat humble (After beating Holmes, he said it was a good name on his record, but that wasn't the legendary Holmes in the ring with him). Unfortunately, when he aligned with Don King and brought in all his boys like Rory and John Horne, he forgot about the boxing and turned into a thug. He could have been the greatest heavyweight of all time, but, unfortunately, he lacked the strength of character.
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 08:18:22 PM
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MisterLee:
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Kquwick, the hotdog eating champ is Japanese, not Chinese. Thank you. I like sugar ray leonard's beyond the glory better. at least he's sane and coherent. TSS rules! :)
Wednesday Apr 29, 2009 08:48:03 PM
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paulbo:
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The number of posts here show just how interested people still are in Mike Tyson. Like him or loathe him, he was a helluva fun guy to watch in his prime. Can't wait to see the film.
Thursday Apr 30, 2009 09:33:50 AM
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Isaiah:
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I will say this, Tyson is always interesting and his wins against Mike Spinks and to a lesser extent, older Larry Holmes, were something else. Tyson was a fierce powerhouse, but no way was he a top 10 all time heavyweight champion and it'd be hard for me to put hime in top 20. Holyfield and Lennox Lewis showed that if your're an elite guy with really good skills and heart, (not that Lennox Lewis needed any heart against him) you can get him discouraged and beat him down. Here's a list of previous heavyweight champions to rate over Tyson. Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Rocky Marciano, maybe Floyd Patterson, Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, young Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, and probaly Vitali Klitschko. I don't see Mike ever beating any of those guys.
Thursday Apr 30, 2009 04:15:00 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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Isaiah, you're talking about post-prison and post Douglas Tyson. That 22 year old nighmare would devour them all.
Friday May 1, 2009 12:39:19 AM
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Kqwick:
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Sorry, the hot dog champ is Japanese, not Chinese. Mea culpa. Tyson's victory against Larry Holmes is way underrated in retrospect. Larry Holmes was 39 at the time, not old for a heavyweight. After Tyson obliterated him, he went on to beat a prime Ray Mercer, was competitive with Holyfield in defeat for the undisputed title, and narrowly lost to a prime Oliver McCall for the WBC title. The pre-prison, pre-Douglas Tyson had a short shelf-life, but that Tyson was amongst the best ever.
Friday May 1, 2009 08:22:19 AM
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Paul Wickes:
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Tyson is the quintessential shooting star. His prime was way too short, due to some very bad decision making. His undoing was casting aside his boxing family in favour of a team who knew nothing of professional prize-fighting.
Tyson was lucky that during his prime there was a severe shortage of quality fighters. Had he not gone to prison he would have lost to Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis and even George Foreman would have had a shot.
Good, not great.
Friday May 1, 2009 11:35:19 AM
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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