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Mayweather Would Beat Marquez EASILY
By Dan Horgan
Juan Manuel Marquez is attempting to bite off far more than he can chew.
The current unified lightweight champion, fresh off a scintillating ninth-round knockout of upstart Juan Diaz in February, is the front-runner to fight former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. in “Pretty Boy’s” comeback fight on July 11th. The proposed bout would take place between the light-welterweight and welterweight limits, likely at 143 pounds. For Marquez’s sake, let’s hope the fight doesn’t happen.
Marquez, 35, is a dynamic fighter. With brilliant technical skills and robust punching power, the Mexican has conquered three weight classes over the past six years. He’s widely regarded as one of the best fighters in the world, largely because of his draw and close loss to Manny Pacquiao, and his fast climb in weight divisions is corroboration that “Dinamita” deserves a spot in the International Boxing Hall of Fame. But despite his past accomplishments, Marquez should not enter the ring against the bigger and better-skilled Mayweather, who would likely pummel the Mexican and steer his hot streak into a crashing halt.
Just three-and-a-half years ago, Marquez traveled to Indonesia and lost to the then-untested Chris John at 126 pounds. Most reports indicate that the fight could have gone either way – John got the nod because he did just a bit more. Although Marquez was fighting on foreign territory, his loss is indicative of how he would fare against a fighter of Mayweather’s caliber. If Marquez can’t beat a scrawny featherweight who has zero other significant wins, how is he supposed to beat the world’s best fighter 17 pounds north?
Mayweather is in a different skill class than Marquez. He has faster hands, better stamina, and far superior defense. And to top it all off, he’s bigger. Marquez would have no clue how to handle Mayweather’s fast, crisp punches at such a high weight.
Stylistically, Marquez is tailor-made for Mayweather. A counter puncher who makes his living off of picking apart hard-charging opponents, Marquez wouldn’t have time to react to Mayweather’s swift blows. And any counter punch Marquez does land will be answered quickly by Mayweather, who is just as proficient in that technique.
Marquez should also keep this in mind: Mayweather, before his brief retirement, fought big-name but low-risk opponents throughout his stint between 147 and 154 pounds. And he’ll likely do the same now that he’s back in the fight game. The 32-year-old is smart: he’s fighting bouts he knows he can both win and make a lot of money off of. Marquez fits perfectly into Mayweather’s plan. He’ll bring to the table a large fan base, meaning lots of money in Floyd’s pocket, and most importantly, he’s easily beatable.
Marquez would be wise to stay at 135 pounds, where he is a proven champion. I’d personally like to see him avenge his loss to John. But venturing up eight pounds to fight a fresh version of the best fighter of the 2000’s would be a big mistake. Hopefully Marquez doesn’t choke on what he’s trying to bite.
Other tidbits:
***I officially have no hope for the heavyweight division. There are no prospects who excite me, and the two best fighters, the Klitschko brothers, are extremely boring. There are about ten hypothetical matchups in the division that are worth watching, and most involve prospects who will never fight each other.
***Call me crazy, but I can’t wait to see Winky Wright’s April 11th return to the ring against Paul Williams. Most think the fight will be boring, but the fact that it’s taking place at 160 pounds adds to its intrigue. Williams is a better fighter, but Wright has more experience at middleweight.
***It would have been less sad had Roy Jones been KO’d Saturday. At least that way, he might have considered retiring.
***Call me a MMA hater, but I despise the integration of boxing and mixed martial arts. Some say that violence is violence, but I think the sports are too different to combine. If I want to watch mixed martial arts, I’ll order a UFC fight. I don’t want two muscle freaks rolling around on a mat before my boxing main events.
***I’d love to see James Kirkland fight Kelly Pavlik this fall.
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Hatton in 9":
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As much as i criticize Juan Manuel Marquez i would still give him a shot at beating Mayweather but a very slim chance. If not for Marquez giving Pacquiao competetive battles i would not make such a comment on this. Mayweather does not have the punching power that Manny has in his arsenal and also Marquez has a pretty good chin only going down four times with as many shots Manny connected with. I don't know if this would be an exciting fight to watch because both fighters are great counterpunchers but who knows lately anything can happen in boxing, and I would still support this fight overall if it were to happen.Payce
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 03:06:21 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Hatton in 9":
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I'm with you on that...i agree that boxing and MMA should not be in same event. I think it's like trying to put down boxing, knowing MMA is in top shape needing to boost up boxing. NO WAY!!Boxing is getting back on track, and Fraud May is sort of helping it by the dramatic comeback he is trying to attempt. He put a little more spice on the salsa.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 03:21:01 PM
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The Watcher:
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The biggest thing here with all the match-ups is that JMM is to small for Mayweather or that division period. No he isn't the biggest puncher in his division but he wouldn't need to be against a much smaller man. I am a JMM fan in fact I thought he beat MP both times but moving up in weight shouldn't be allowed, MP got past Goldie because it was too much weight for the pink panty man to loose and you will see how much size matters in this case when MP meets Hatton who will be physically to strong.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 04:43:33 PM
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Steve:
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Never....NEVER underestimate JMM....The guy is a true warrior! I am a Pacfan and have seen the heart of JMM. I'll take the real fighter over the track star!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 04:44:38 PM
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money may:
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mayweather would beat make marquez look silly, TKO easy 8th round stoppage
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 04:54:11 PM
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john:
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Mayweather and marquez match are the best because they are good dancers and keep running away around from their opponents! its a good sleeping pills to watch!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 04:59:48 PM
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cezpel:
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Maybe I'm blind but I have never enjoyed the grabbing, hitting behind the head, the shove he gave hatton into the ring post which is actually what stunned hatton, and all the other antics rhat this ugly mtf ever did in the ring! Why so many so called experts and scribes ascribe imaginary superhuman attributes to him ( the same scribes by a ratio 9 to 1 said dela Hoya would vaporize Pacquiao). Mayweather has never been that impressive except against second rate talents like Baldomir,and Gatti . Even against Oscar he had a hard time and let's quit the bullshit of what abig difference that Oscar was from the one who fought Pacquiao because there was none except that Oscar got KO'd by Pac and creditably fought to a split decision with Mayweather. Against hatton in the early going it was pretty even albeit that midway he began to separate himself by holding and hitting.
Marquez is a much more wily opponent who knows how to adjust it will be no walk in the park. It's also the kind of fight that will make me a lot of money if the odds are big against Marquez!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 05:02:58 PM
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I love to see floyd fighting manny that well be big time fight manny will kick floyd ass..
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 05:29:27 PM
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sir charles:
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i think if marquez fight PBF he should go for the catch weight of 140lbs.
to drain mayweather.. maybe marquez will have a chance to defeat PBF, but as you said SLIM CHANCE for marquez..
i think marquez should w8 for the losser of the PAC vs HATTON..
YEAH!!!! this is maybe possible...
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 05:54:15 PM
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mike:
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Damn. That is too bad you don't like the Klitschkos. VK just comes into every fight in top condition and adminsters a can of whup ass to whoever is in front of him. It is not his fault that except for Lewis nobody has really been able to do anything about it. He has some real subtle defensive techniques, uses his height well, has a rock solid chin, and breaks down his opponent in every possible way. 11.5 million Europeans watched his fight so somebody must like him and his brother. He will beat up the Valuev/Chageav winner next and then the American writers can belittle his opponents again instead of giving him some props. Maybe we Americans might have to accept the fact there is no great american savior coming to the heavyweight division for a long time. If Arreola did to Peter or Gomez or Rahman what VK did you would be probably nominating him for the Hall of Fame.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 06:23:06 PM
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Theboy901:
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Floyd would KO JMM. People underestimate Floyd's punching power. And yes, he'd also make Manny look silly.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 06:39:00 PM
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donputo69 watching operation repo:
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congratulations to pacquiao...well deserved...he had my vote...I wonder what excuse the canvas kisser has for us?...he'll probably say something like this: its not fair...manny don't deserve to be fighter of the year...even though I kiss the canvas 4 times, I still think im better than him....not fair....lmfaooooo....that was the canvas kisser speaking...lol...anyway....fight of the year?....I disagree with vazquez vs marquez....I had cotto vs margacheato....that was my fight of the year....holla back!!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 06:56:31 PM
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Jess:
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I won't spend a penny to see marathonweather fight. I also question the thirdmen in the ring why they don't warn him for hitting the back of the head. He should get a dancing job so he can pay the IRS, or fight in the MMA and use all his dirty tricks.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 06:59:01 PM
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donputo69 watching operation repo:
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duhhhh!!!! really?...scareweather would beat the canvas kisser easily?....lmfaooooo...duhhhhh....of course he would....smaller guy...old guy....a kisser....of course he would....those are the only guys scareweather would fight...little guys....he will never....ever.....ever.....eeeeeeeeeeeever get my respect...unless he fights cotto mosley or williams....and beats 2 out of 3....then maybe.....just maybe I will respect that girl...prove me wrong scareweather....holla back!!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:03:08 PM
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ernesto:
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The greatest anticipated fight of the decade would be Paquiao Mayweather fight. Let us leave it at that to happen soon after Paquiao disposes of Hatton on May 2. But I honestly believe that the Filipino champ is more stronger and faster than any American counterpart in Boxing. Also MMA is for girls while boxing for boys. I mean only women would fight on the floor ! Between the champs of Boxing vs. the champs of MMA I bet all my money the comical MMA would fall.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:08:40 PM
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Porkupine:
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What makes anyobody think Mayweather can make 135 or 140? This JMM and Pac talk is crazy unless they want to meet at 154.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:08:47 PM
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k:
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what we have now is a fully evolved marquez, chris john will surely kiss the canvas when they fight, but there's no big point fighting chris john ( just view the p4p list and you'll see the difference between marquez and john ) if they will it should be at lightweight. because marquez 's way is to go up and not going back down to featherweight. I believe marquez will develop those bombs in his gloves as he goes up to heavier weight.
Just give him a shot bro sometimes underdogs does miracle..
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:13:48 PM
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jay terrible:
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dont under estimate jmm hes good and he has the guts i think he will beat the man running..............
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:16:59 PM
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ganiRends:
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Ahhha!!! JMM vs PBF to my oppinion is not bad at all. It's a little bit awkward at first, but what difference does it make between PACMAN vs DLH. To me fight is based on weight.. not definitely with height or whatever,.. age? come on.. If JMM and PBF would come to an agreement..I would say they'll meet @ 140..for fairness and goodness. This would make boxing @ it's best @ welterweight division. It would pack-up full of excitement..I can't wait!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:22:32 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Hatton in 9":
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Fighter of the Year in 08 belongs to Manny Pacquiao hands down and his second award in 3 years. We are witnessing a legend in the making people, whaddup Don?!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:24:37 PM
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JOHNNY:
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marquez has much better offense as counter punching than mayweather, mayweather will have a tough time. Chris John is nothing and marquez should have won that fight it if wasn't for hometown's decision. and I do think mayweather has a chance too but it's gonna be hell. I go for marquez win a Decision if that fight happens.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:28:53 PM
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doggoneson:
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I don't think marquez should be mentioned in the sentence as floyd. he's just too small and weak-chinned. he suffered 4 KDs from Pac. i don't think this mismatch will happen. if it will, i hope to floyd brutally raped this fag.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:32:29 PM
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JOHNNY:
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marquez has much better offense as counter punching than mayweather, mayweather will have a tough time. Chris John is nothing and marquez should have won that fight it if wasn't for hometown's decision. and I do think mayweather has a chance too but it's gonna be hell. I go for marquez win a Decision if that fight happens.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:42:40 PM
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banks:
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if JMM vs Mayweather will happen i predict that it would be a boring boxing match. mayweather with a UD victory . marquez will cry again and says i was robbed heheheheh..poor marquez!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:51:27 PM
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zane:
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I agree with this article. Marquez is strong and has the heart but he is just too small for Mayweather. Besides, Mayweather-Marquez will be a boring, ugly fight and a mismatch. Why? read this: fighthype.co.nr
Mayweather should face Pacquiao or Mosley instead. Or the other legit Welterweights that he has always ducked like Cotto or Paul Williams.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 07:56:29 PM
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Manny n JMM rematch fan:
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I highly disagree with you here!! People wanna see manny against mayweather, who is much more tailor-made. Someone who comes at you, and is much shorter than mayweather and JMM. I think that JMM has brought more power as he goes up weight divisions. And how can you say Juan Diaz has no power! He has knocked out 17 of his opponents. That's around 47, or 48%. Trainers train fighters differently depending on the type of fighters they fight. So I think that he would probably work on defense and countering his opponents counters. I think your underestimating JMM and overrating Manny, who I have the most respect to. I'm surprise at you guys because Manny, who i know has underrated foot-work and defense, has not as much defensive skills as JMM. I'm also dissappointed because you guys don't even seem to give him a chance. I think JMM fighting spirit can drive him to victory.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 08:00:43 PM
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Gogoy:
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I agree with you on this. Marquez has only a very slim chance against Mayweather. He is just too small and slower compared to PBF. But I still like to see them fight.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 08:11:35 PM
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darwin:
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Mr. author!
you are right!
ok let us not underestimate Marquez!
I think there's no way Marquez can win over mayweather!
no chance!
ill bet 1-1/2 of my money for mayweather!
marquez isnt that remarkable!
if you watch carefully the two fights between Pacman!, you can really tell there! it should be a unanimous decision for PACman!
and his fight with casamayor isnt really pleasing! casamayor is oldie!
his fight with diaz is only a lucky punch!
if they have a rematch with diaz! diaz this time will surely win!!
Marquez has no chance for Mayweather!
go pacman
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 08:17:49 PM
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Wsap:
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List of fighters Mayweather wont fight:
Cotto
Mosley
He's scared of this two, that's why he left to avoid them, now he's coming back to fight the smaller guys lolol.
you better fight berto in june instead of marquez...lol
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 08:26:21 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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Floyd would probably beat JMM however that time off for Floyd can't be too good for him. There's no doubt rust will be there but as the rounds go by the rust will leave and it will spell trouble for JMM. I can see Floyd shooting that nice litte jab right in the stomach of Marquez setting him up for the middle to late rounds. I do agree and I have been preaching about that as well, the MMA/Boxing shows. It's horrible. They are completely different. I would understand more if it was a kickboxing match with boxing. MMA should be put together with WWE wrestling. I bet the PPV buys were horrible. Boxing is nowhere dead. As you can see with the results with the Vitali Klitschko fight, they did great numbers and everyone was happy. Let MMA die on it's own. Boxing truly would never need MMA to help it.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 08:42:25 PM
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MANG RESTY:
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I disagree with this article although we are all entitled to our own opinion but to totally disregard the capabilities of JMM is a blatant display of boxing ignorance which I believe this point of view is also shared by many at www pacfans corner com
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 09:04:24 PM
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Philarious:
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The big question here is how will the fight play out based on their styles? Neither is known as a come forward offensive fighter. If Mayweather comes forward - JMM takes the advantage. If JMM comes forward then Mayweather has the chance to pick off his opponent. Although its an intriguing fight - it will be a boring one in my opinion. Neither one will be willing to take the initiative. Putting two defensive fighters together in the ring is like putting two magnets with similar poles facing each other. Just an exageration.
I disagree with the quote on the picture above. Mayweather doesn't flurry like Juan Diaz. He'll never put himself in a position to leave himself open. So the "what if" doesn't apply.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 09:09:38 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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It might not be in the US but boxing is alive and kicking. Like I said do you think Germany is complaining? NO they are not. 11.5 million saw Vitali fight on Saturday. That speaks for itself
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 09:31:07 PM
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I agree with the article part except for the John part. Marquez would lose to Mayweather because Money is better in every department and he is naturally bigger. JMM could still probably make 126 still. He only moved up to 130 to fight PAC and most, yes MOST neutral fans would tell you he won although I could see a 1 point win for Manny in either fight but I thought Marquez won both.
As far as John, I am always in disbelief when people say that John legitimately won. Chris John had some good stanzas but JMM clearly outboxed him in a "bigger" ring, and some hometown refereeing. Throw them in the U.S. and I think JMM cuts him off even more thoroughly and gets a TKO because John's punches didn't even phase JMM and we all know JMM's chin is suspect at times against solid punchers.
peace!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 09:46:29 PM
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darwin:
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SZ:
Marquez is really defeated by Pacman!
u think that he wins both!
oh come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
try to use magnifying glass and review it over and over again so that u will really see!
then get a pen then record how many punches Jmm absorb!
Sometimes Jmm fans are very unreasonable! they dont accept the fact that fist by fist Jmm is nowhere near to our PAcman.!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 10:16:01 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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I agree on Kirkland/Pavlik. Without seeing more of Kirkland, Pavlik would be a huge favorite but Kelly would have to fight. Kirkland is no Mora. Now whether Kirkland can adapt and/or alter his strategy remains to be seen....but we know he will bring the fight to Pavlik. For boxing to retain it's shine with a diverse fan base, these are the kind of match-ups that it needs. To capture the global audience, he must fight Abraham. Either here or in Germany. Boxing needs to extend beyond loyal and local fan bases and take advantage of the passions that already exist. 11 million European buys for a Klitschko! Hatton fills seats in England. Pacquiao has arguably the largest fan base worldwide. Look at the venues Muhammed Ali fought in. He fought in every corner of the earth ( Zaire in '74, Manila in '75) and the game was huge! The tonic for an ailing sport is great competition; great matches. The long term health of boxing is in the hands of the people that should know best but more often think and behave short term. Their industry needs....we need...great fights. Lastly, props to Tall Paul. He runs from no one. Fighting Winky Wright is tough any day. In any division. He is hard to beat and even worse, hard to look good against. So props to Williams. My bet is on him....but either way he is going to school with a master....and will be a better fighter for it. pc
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 10:18:12 PM
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Fe'Roz :
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And I'm with the Don. Cotto-Margarito. A War to Remember. FOTY!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 10:22:25 PM
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sergio:
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im sorry but this article IS BIASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am a pacman fan but i think this fight should happen it will be an interesting fight!!! i think marquez will put up a great fight just like pacman would if he fought mayweather.. marquez is just as great or even better than pacman so i dont understand why people believe pacman is the opnly fighter that has a chance to be floyd!!!! its not true pacman and marquez are great fighters based on their fights and both have equal chances with floyd!!!!
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 10:36:17 PM
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if floyd was a real fighter, he would fight the best in his weight division, right? Mosely or Cotto. Floyd's resume isn't as impressive as other world champions. Hatton and DeLaHoya, that's about it. Don't call yourself the greatest when you're not even close. Yeah, you're undefeated but how many true world champions have YOU fought FLOYD in their prime, just Hatton really. Turning down 9 million to fight Mosely says what- He's dangerous for your unblemished record. I'm willing to bet he won't fight Mosely or Cotto come July. Take a risk for once FLOYD and fight someone the boxing world wants to see you fight, not just someone you want to. I bet you don't though.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 10:39:15 PM
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jayzee:
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IMAGINE hahaha, for the sake of the economy of boxing, dont let this fight happen. This is the most boring fight of all times. Marquez will never punch if the opponent will not punch because he is a counter puncher as his specialty, Floyd is a runner when he see his opponent get tired chasing of him that is the time he will punch.... Imagine this two inside the ring??? And the are ONE OF THE BEST or THE BEST BOXERS IN THE WORLD. NO wonder why boxing is fading in sports limelight. I'd rather watch chess or pocker than to watch the two bozo inside the ring . Makes me sleepy wahahaha.......
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 10:56:44 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Hatton in 9":
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I'm not too excited about the Williams-Wright fight only because Wright does not come to win a fight but to survive a fight. It will be like watching him go against Hopkins all over again. This is what's going to happen, Paul will back Winky in the corners with his hands up getting hit in the gloves and elbows while Wright winks at Jim and Larry. If Tall Paul Williams can penetrate his punches through Winky's brick wall we might find the match to be entertaining and if not don't expect to see any blood.
Tuesday Mar 24, 2009 11:03:26 PM
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Anfernee:
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I would predict Mayweather to beat the MarXman (marquez), but it would be a close fight. Don't underestimate MarXman, he's got chin. Yes he got stunned four times by the Pacman, but the guy has incredible will power. Mayweather isn't much of a puncher, he can't KO Marxman. And Marquez has great technical boxing skills like Mayweather too, especially the counterpunching ability. I disagree with the boxing scribes when they say Mayweather has great counterpunching ability. He doesn't. He's just a pure boxer, not much offense.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 12:07:20 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Fightwriter D.H., ditto on your script. Enough said. Holla!
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 12:19:54 AM
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Real Talk :
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I agree Vasquez vs. Marquez 111 by a nose . Pac don't have more power than May at 147 . He doesn't have that KO power at 147 . I aint trying to see Mayweather fight no lightweight . 140 on up . I'm starting to doubt if Floyd still has it . Dueces
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 12:54:05 AM
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Jet G:
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as they say styles make fights. please don't be so difinite and subjective as you could already see the future. who would believe that douglas beat the crap out of tyson. i go for marquez at 140 pound weight limit. and for REAL TALK...don't be so sure of what the pacman packs. many say he is much more powerful than what people see and he wants to remain it that way. a gambler knows how to keep his cards until the right time comes. always think and don't be misled of what you see. it is better to use your nose for snoopin. good luck
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 01:23:17 AM
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andy from newcastle:
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JMM has absolutely nothing to lose in this fight, and millions of reasons to take it. If he gets beat, even badly, so what? He's way over his natural weight limit against arguably the best boxer around (I would be one to argue against it, but that's not the point). Most folks would expect him to lose. Fan boys would be shouting missmatch. At the end of it all, JMM would still be the king and man to beat at lightweight, and PBF would move on to Manny or Hatton, being the wuss that he is. Like many here though, I wouldn't write JMM off in this fight, he's the total warrior. Toonoy
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 06:35:47 AM
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this fight will be a hell for marquez.If this fight will possibly happen,and the both fighters will start their a cha-cha..Mayweather will be too fast and powerful for marquez to chase and will just make him tired and be KO by gayweather in 6.I love Marquez and I love to see his fights but this fight is just to far from him and it doesn't belong to him.It will just put him to shame after this fight,if this will happen.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 07:25:46 AM
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swaggerbox:
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this would be a boring fight!
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 07:58:32 AM
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Neophyte:
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To JMM:: Now see what you’ve done ....told you to be careful of what u wish for, it could happen. In your great frustration chasing Pacman, u blurted out Floyd’s name. tsk, tsk….u must be trembling now. U must price yourself out if only to avoid fyting Floyd. Who knows, they give u your asking price then to hell with them…fyt Floyd and retire as damaged good. U must be having fits at night with the thought of u and floyd together inside the ring. WHoaaaa….. As for u Floyd, why a tune-up with a midget if u are the greatest as u claim yourself to be?? my,..my.....
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 09:03:30 AM
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morales:
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Floyd would destroy marquez.That is a fight I can see floyd taking for a tune up.After that I still don't think he would pick on anybody dangerous.I would like to see him fight cotto,clottey,margarito,berto,mosely,someone of that nature.I don't think he has the guts to fight any of those guys.Maybe clottey.I also like collazo.I think he was robbed against berto.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 09:29:10 AM
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andy from newcastle:
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@Neophyte. The Magnificiant Marquez fears no beer. Toonoy
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 09:33:56 AM
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vankrismaghanoy.phil:
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WATEVER!!!! PACMAN IS STILL THE BEST AMONG THE REST!!!!!!!OPONENTS
GOGOGOGO!!!!! PHILIPPINES
FIGTH3X!!!!!!!
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 09:54:50 AM
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ringmaster:
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The JMM who lost to Chris John 3 years ago is no longer the same JMM now. He is more determined than ever. He fights with no qualms unlike those who just fight for the money. Can JMM beat Mayweather? Absolutely!
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 10:52:47 AM
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RIVERSIDE:
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ringmaster, i agree with you, jmm is not the same boxer who lost a close decision in hostile territory, jmm would ko chris john know, what about mayweather losing to castillo in there first fight. writer needs not to be bias, jmm skills are UNDER RATED, he beat the two top lightweight by ko, thats impressive, mayweather might take the fight, because he thinks he can beat jmm, jmm camp needs to make fight at 140, not a pound heavier
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 11:14:50 AM
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Anony:
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I believe JMM do have a shot against Mayweather. The only chance Freakweather has to beat him would be in the first rounds of the fight because those are the ones Marquez use to adjust. After the 4th round Floyd will understand he should have stay retired. But I guess Floyd will dance with Hatton - Pacquiao winner. He is too greedy for taking less money with JMM.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 01:53:37 PM
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Yuvie:
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I would love if JMM beat Mayweather but it would never happen. Seems like an obvious choice for Mayweather. A guy who's two weight divisions below him instead of taking on a decent welterweight, even a guy like Collazo. What a joke, please don't return Mayweather.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 02:21:53 PM
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Arturo:
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Many people ,including me thought that Margarito was going to have a easy fight against Mosley.For that reason I give Marquez a good chance against Mayweather at around 140 pounds.I would rather see a fight between Marquez and Hatton rather than Money Mayweather trying to dodge a true welterweight threat to his undefeated record by fighting a smaller guy.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 02:31:47 PM
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Floyd Vs. Marquez will be a mismatch. Pac Vs. Floyd will also be a mismatch. The only guy that I can see now that has a chance to beat Floyd is Sugar Shane. Size wise + skills and speed. Though we can't really count the little men out completely. Oscar had had his lesson.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 02:38:55 PM
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#1 Pacfan "KO's Hatton in 9":
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Like Pacman is always said, "If you train hard enough dreams can come true." Marquez is also taking that route of trying to be the best he can be by taking on tough challenges. Mayweather is a like a Mt. Everest for Marquez, a high mountain to climb and he would have to bring out all tricks out the bag. I'm really looking forward to this year and the next because whatever the outcomes of this years matchups will still be a win win for the fans. If Pac were to lose he would still have a shot at a trilogy with Marquez and if Hatton were to lose it would set up a fight with Marquez also. And the winner of May-Pac would fight the winner of the Hatton-Marquez now you're all wondering where the elite welterweights in this. Well that all depends if May wants to fight for Glory or for Wealth. If Mayweather does not take on Mosley, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Berto then we know what level of competetion he belongs in.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 02:45:20 PM
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This might be a boring fight, both counter puncher. But even though, what JMM showed his last three fights and fighting a former pound for pound king. I think this is going to be a mega money. If they fought at 140lbs this is will be an easy fight for JMM. PBF will be too drain plus his rusty, but if this happen. The winner of this fight and Hatton/Pacquiao will be a super mega fight.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 05:14:29 PM
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jeff:
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after pacquiao defeating hatton the most logical fight is pacquiao vs. cotto, surely it will be superfight of 2009 an all action and breathtaking fight that running and clinching are rare to find which is common to boring and lackadaisical bum fighter. should pacman defeats cotto he will earn his 6 weight championship belts in 6 different weight division which only a few had achieved.
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 05:19:22 PM
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Fistic Fury:
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My two favourite fighters. Despite his greatness and warrior instincts I think Marquez would fall to Floyd inside 8, but knowing J M Marquez I wouldn't bet the mortgage on it...
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 06:37:55 PM
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Overrated:
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you are under-estimating JMM and greatly over-estimating Floyd.
This is JMM who got floored 3x, and still managed to eke out a Draw with Pacman.
I think you are a delusional fan, like your delusional idol.
One day Floyd will find his world crumbles.
This is the reason he retires every now and then, to avoid popping his bubble.
My advise to both of you, "DON'T BE DELUSIONAL".
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 11:14:40 PM
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mark abapo:
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I dont think JMM could beat Mayweather Jr. his skills in boxing will be no match for Mayweather. Despite the fact that Mayweather is the bigger fish for JMM, He is also a powerfull boxer im surre he will be the bait for that bigger fish.....
Wednesday Mar 25, 2009 11:28:35 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Hum! I know a con when I see one, as the GOAT Ali use to shout. Marquez is good at boxing, but even better at running a game and a con that he is better than he is. I hope that he and his alley cat trainer are tricked into really tangling with Money May. Money will break Marquez's nose, jaw, eye sockets, con and myth, while getting righteously paid with da "suckas who are born every minute" money. A good big man always beat a small con artist. If Marquez tangles with Money, it will last just four rounds because, instead of knocking JMM out in two minutes of the first round, Money will showboat and entertain the fan. Holla!
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 12:10:03 AM
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winbars:
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yeah! PRG you are correct!
JMM SHOULD WORRY AND PAY NOW FOR CALLING FLOYD!
FLOYD WILL BREAK THIS BAD MOUTH MEXICAN!
FLOYD FORGIVE HIM FOR HE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING!
IF YOU TWO FIGHT PUNISH HIM LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW!
LET HIM PAY FOR COMING YOU OUT!
HE SHOULD BE REALLY BATTERED BY YOUR FIST!
LET HIM FEEL THE PAIN EVERY MINUTE IN EVERY ROUND
SO THAT HIS EYES WILL GO ROUND!
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 12:33:13 AM
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winbars:
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IF MARQUEZ FIGHT FLOYD
FLOYD WILL NOT BE ANNOYED
BECAUSE MARQUEZ IS EASY TO HANDLE
MARQUEZ FACE WILL BE DISMANTLE
MARQUEZ FANS BE READY!
MARQUEZ WILL BE BATTERED COMPLETELY
ALL YOU NEED IS TO CRY
SIT DOWN AND WONDER WHY!
HAHAHAH WHAT A NICE POEM
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 12:47:16 AM
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NAZ:
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If Floyd decides to face Marquez for less money that he would get against Mosley we can call Mayweather the Puss. Shane Vs Floyd is the match. Come on Floyd make it happen. Don't run away.
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 09:22:22 AM
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winbars, why you hate so much? jmm is one of the best in boxing and he happens to be mexican, that why your hating so much. you have nothing on jmm, he moved up to lightweight and fought the two best lightweights casamayor and juan diaz, both were kod, marquez talk the talk and backs it up, mayweather talk the talk and runs away from true welterweight, he always has, fight needs to happen at 140 for jmm to win
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 11:03:28 AM
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Pete Steward:
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Dan hit the nail right on the head. Whatever JMM can do Money can do better. Mayweather is only boxer that can outbox a master boxer like JMM. And on top of that Floyd is has Roy Jones level Athleticism, speed, reflexes, vision you name it. And he's BIGGER. JMM is starving to make that INTERGALITIC SUPER SIZE Money. That Mayweather, Oscar, Hatton and now Manny are making, he's willing to risk it all. He's a true warrior. He'll have to wait in line however after Mayweather has vanquished Pacman & Mosley in huge paydays. JMM is going have to stay fit focused patient and keep winning. While Millionaire club members Hitman & Pacman settle their business (May2nd) to decide who gets first crack at The Lord of the RING Return of KING Money Mayweather.
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 11:56:32 AM
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Mayweather will eat a lot of counters but he need to punch first or else nothing will happen, lol... Marquez will eat a lot of fast jabs but he need to chase Mayweather, lol... If these fight happens some one need to change style of fighting or else it will be the most boring fight of the century, great only on paper, lol...
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 08:30:49 PM
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LeonardoMarroquini:
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Dan, I agree that Mayweather would beat Marquez, but that's not because of all you wrote about.
As he proved himself before, Marquez can deal with speed, as he dealed with Manny Pacquiao in both fights (ok he didnt lok great, but he matched Pacquiao with timing). The problem is not the skillset at all (Marquez is better offensively, Mayweather is better defensively), but the size where its taking place is a bit too much. Marquez looks solid offensively for a lightweight, but he wont as a welterweight.
Mayweather would be too big and would hit him too often exploring his size and speed advantages.
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 09:05:35 PM
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DanHorganSucks:
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So the #2 P4P fighter wants to jump up and fight the former P4P king and you don't want to watch it? And what's this PBF will pummel him talk? You make it sound like PBF is Roberto Duran.
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 09:20:34 PM
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Arturo:
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There is nothing wrong with JMM calling out Money Mayweather.He might lose but he is not taking a step down in competition.JMM hasn't fought a weak fighter in years...can't say that about Manny
Thursday Mar 26, 2009 10:11:56 PM
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Realtalkadomus:
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Whoever thinks that May is fighting at 140 is crazy or just plain stupid . I see Mayweather taking a fight with Lou Collazo . It makes perfect sense . He doesn't have to worry about one punch KO power and has an advantage in the speed department . He better not sleep on Collazo though because slim comes to work with his lunch box and hard hat . I see Pac at an dissadvantage in the power department at 147 . Not a good look . He's a lightweight to me until he beats somebody at 140 . That's one of my favorite fighters so I hope coach Roach sticks to his guns and keeps him away from the welters . He would get bullied . Many does have good feet though so that wouldn't hurt'em. POOF @#$%
Friday Mar 27, 2009 11:06:58 AM
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Real Talk:
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I wouldn't come of a long lay off and jump in their with Shane Mosley either . Only Ray Leonard pulled one of those and the word was Hagler was slipping and slowing down (no disrespect to Hagler) . You see what he did to Cheato ? On the other hand a fight with Marquez will make me lose some respect for Floyd . A welter fighting a lightweight is what it is . Same way I felt about Oscar vs. Pac I would feel the same way about this one . I'm a Floyd fan but this would be bad for his legacy . Dueces
Friday Mar 27, 2009 11:19:30 AM
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arbee:
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I believe Marquez can pull out a surprise here. He is intelligent and can dish out moves to counter any opponent at any given time. If he fights Paquaio, he fights a fight intended for Pac. When he fought casamayor, he adopted another measure only intended for casamayor and he did another move for Diaz. I saw his other fights and he had different moves and counters depending on the opposition's talents. If he'll fight Mayweather, he will adapt a strategy intended solely against Mayqweather and I'll give him 70 and 30% chance to topple a guy who is flashy as May but less smarter than him. Smarter Marquez for a UD.
Saturday Mar 28, 2009 09:58:37 PM
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ruko:
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JMM would do great against mayweather if floyd would stop running and fight like a man plus he has been inactive wich could be good for JMM. if floyd would get in the ring with the pac man he would get destroyed by manny
Monday Mar 30, 2009 11:57:02 AM
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jav:
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JMM ko'd by matweather? JMM not close to Pac? ingorance at its finest, proving that floyd has never fought anyone in the top p4p list, lol, all jokes, and pac couldnt take care off JMM, and he's not good enough? wow, u people must only watch PPV fights, huh
Monday Apr 20, 2009 11:49:08 AM
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jav:
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JMM ko'd by matweather? JMM not close to Pac? ingorance at its finest, proving that floyd has never fought anyone in the top p4p list, lol, all jokes, and pac couldnt take care off JMM, and he's not good enough? wow, u people must only watch PPV fights, huh
Monday Apr 20, 2009 11:49:30 AM
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alfi:
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come on, i dont know whos this analys but you seems know nothing in boxing. JMM is not small time fighter, hes one of the elite in boxing, he has big chance of winning over mayweather. JMM has power in his punches, very intelligent and durable. for that reason he has a great chance of winning over floyd. maybe youre one of those who said before that oscar will destroy pacman? i think youre one of them huh? then you ate your words then thought for alibis like oscar is old, he was drain he was over trained. LOL. come on. After JMM and floyd fight i think you gonna eat you words once more. LOL. i think you are ****** in boxing so stop making your thought out of you little brain.
Thursday Apr 23, 2009 02:58:21 PM
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vince:
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There, Marquez. There are some people who believe in you. So if this fight against this track and field star Mayweather goes thru, simply fight ferociously. Box and box even if he´s not in front of you!! And whether you´ve lost or won after the fight, don´t cry and whine: It´s un-Mexican, you know.
Friday Apr 24, 2009 07:21:40 AM
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scot sheer:
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marquez is warrior pbf holds he will get killed floyd will look good for 5-6 rounds jmm will hang around like with diaz looking not so good and then bam ko
Saturday May 2, 2009 06:47:56 PM
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Yeah Right!:
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Boxing Pundits! Come on. Have you looked at the last couple of Mayweather fights? He's getting old. Look at the last Hatton Pacman fight. I love Mayweather for proving what I knew all along, that Oscar was a second rate fighter(even more coddled than Mayweather by far), but he did it after Shane did it. You can never count out grit and smarts in the ring, and Marquez in his fight with Diaz proved both. He's been in the ring with THE BEST. Barrera and Pacman. Yes, Marquez is old, which is the only reason why Floyd is fighting him right now. Floyd thinks Marquez is over the hill from watching his last fight with Diaz. But don't count out Marquez's iron chin. Iron chin's happen not just from determination, but from intelligence. The only real disadvantage that I see for Marquez is in fact, something that no boxing pundit seems to mention... Mayweather's tiny head! It's the size of a grapefruit. Look at his side by side with Marquez! No wonder it's hard to hit the guy! He's got like a three year old's head! But if you look at the RIcky Hatton fight, you can see he does get hit(ever since he moved up in weight). Marquez will no doubt go to, go to, go to, and go to again to Mayweather's body and Mayweather doesn't have the power of Manny who couldn't finish Marquez. Manny took out Hatton in second round. Mayweather in the tenth, basically after wearing him down. That's been Mayweather's MO for the last I don't know how many fights. Have you seen his fights with Castillo, a second rate B fighter? Sure Castillo gave Corrales(the suckiest fighter ever!!! Chin like jello. Hyped up and glad he's dead, the hot headed fool.) a couple exciting fights, but come on! Castillo is a great solid fighter but not even in the league with the likes of the REAL greats of boxing for the last ten years who were never given a chance by the corrupt boxing associations or were kept from proving themselves for the longest time. i.e., Barrera, Morales, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Cotto, Shane(too an extent, and he seems to have gotten his fighter's head back since his divorce, now that he doesn't have to take care of his former high maintenance idiot manager/wife and got together with Hopkins). This isn't mentioning all the great fighters that are emerging - Gamboa for one. JMM along with Rafael, his brother(somewhat a weaker chin, but a great fighter too) can never be counted out that easy(of course Vazquez beat Rafael - those fights were on par with the great Morales Barrera fights of the last decade). Mayweather picking Marquez? Oscar picked Manny and proved himself a fool. Also, if you know boxing at all, you would know RING RUST is always a factor. And who else is touting Mayweather Jr. as the eventual winner? Mayweather Sr. Great job he did on his last couple fighters! Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Mayweather Jr. He DEFINITELY deserves to be in the Boxing Hall of Fame, unlike Tirinidad or Oscar or those that Oscar beat(every one with a glass chin or no talent, but without the good looks and the great management, Oscar would have been nothing more than a Zab Zudah, a could've been. I mean did you see him pick Hatton over Manny and give excuses as to why he got so old in the ring when he got his ass kicked by a smaller guy? Nope, Manny just beat him to a pulp, Oscar was the SAME EXACT fighter I've always seen!!! That's the truth! Come on, he lost to Trinidad for heaven's sake!) You say Mayweather is bigger. So was Oscar. Marquez moving up in weight will make him stronger(hopefully not slower but Marquez has gotten old), as it did for Manny. Floyd moving down in weight(having to shed those pounds off from the easy life he's been on (think his comeback fight last time with Castillo I believe it was)) may very well WEAKEN him, something you fail to mention, just as it did Oscar(though Oscar always sucked - I have to admit.) You talking about Floyd, sounds too familiar like GM always claiming for the last twenty years, our cars are as good as Toyotas. Having said, all this, I agree that Mayweather has a better chance winning in the fight. Like I said, I love him, but you discounting Marquez, a PHENOMENAL fighter/boxer, the way you do, sounds too idiotic. I bet you picked Oscar over Manny too and Hatton over Manny, perhaps you even picked Naseem Hamed over Barrera so long ago. Personally, I give Floyd the edge by a very narrow margin(fast hands afterall, though his body and footwork's slowed down, and his stamina hasn't been the same since his move up in weight), a decision victory, (a Mexican has far less chance fighting in the US too) but I bet after the fight, Marquez will gain more thumbs ups than downs. I also bet it will be Floyd's MOST DIFFICULT FIGHT EVER!!! HANDS DOWN!!! For the first time in his life he will be in the ring with a REAL FIGHTER. I bet after the fight, many people will feel like if this was a street fight, Marquez would've beaten him, and Floyd will make some excuse about Ring Rust. Floyd, like I said is a real fighter too, but his hand-picked opponents more than likely put bacon around his ribs, bacon that Marquez is going to cook crisp for 12 rounds. Floyd will do the same to Marquez, and do it often, just enough to win the fight, but at the same time, I can also see Marquez winning. Floyd is an elusive fighter, but Marquez's hand speed/accuracy is underrated and because Floyd is so elusive, he's never NEVER had a SOLID punch land on him. Floyd is one of those freaks of nature(a Sweetpea Whitaker with decent power) that NEVER got his chin tested, due to his incredible reflexes... but HE'S getting OLD too. For as many pictures you can give of Marquez getting hit by Diaz, I could give you the same of Hatton hitting Floyd(though off balance and grazing - Hatton being pressure fighter, not to light on his toes). What the heck does that prove???
Tuesday May 5, 2009 12:24:49 AM
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Jet G:
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marquez is really durable and it is tested already on many accounts.floyd never tested himself to a marquez caliber.castillo is the nearest but castillo could not adapt to situations that is why i see marquez far better than castillo.castillo is more likely like casamayor.what floyd will bring ,marquez has dealt with.what marquez will bring,it is something new for floyd and every round floyd will expect marquez to adjust.if floyd does not counter adjust he will lose the fight.the fighter who comes in more effectively versatile will win the fight.size does not matter because it does not look like that floyd is far bigger.speed does matter but if the other one could cut off the faster one,it does not really much make a big difference.for power,floyd has a decent one but i think his past injury plus the resiliency of marquez will not make a big difference.as for marquez,he has a very underated power.he might not be strong the way we look at it but those stinging punches really give an after-effect damage.if floyd will not trade punches he will probably win by u.d. but if trading punches are much too often seen in the fight marquez will win by 11th or 12th round tko.i think floyd after the hatton-pacman fight would prefer not to trade punches with marquez.he knows the power of pacman and yet marquez was able to fight him toe-toe.the question is if marquez could win this running style.i think he can win this if the judges will follow the 10 point system correctly.the fighter with the more clean shots win.if both are equally good the judges will decide on who has the ring generalship and/or the guy who is effectively aggressive.but if they are still evenly matched which seldom really happens the guy with the better defence wins.ring generalship means the guy who cuts the ring more often and effective aggressiveness means that an aggressive fighter should also connect clean punches.for me my conclussion to this fight setting aside boxing politics,marquez will win either by tko on the later rounds or by u.d.
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Angie And Goody...23 Years Later
Twenty three years later after they seconded Marvin Hagler and Ray Leonard in Las Vegas, Goody Petronelli and Angelo Dundee crossed paths again. This time, it was at Foxwoods. Photo/friend of TSS "The Iceman" John Scully reports there were only pleasantries exchanged. Goody didn't debate the split decision victory enjoyed by Leonard, which to this day Hagler disputes.
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