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The Last Word On: Darchinyan's Triumph
By Ron Borges
Vic Darchinyan doesn’t carry many pounds with him, but all 115 of them have to be put in the top-10 of any legitimate pound-for-pound list now.
In back-to-back fights, the Argumentative Aremenian destroyed two of the best junior bantamweights in the world and he did it not by simply overpowering them. He did it by out boxing them. Well, to be fair, he did both.
Up until he was knocked cold by Nonito Donaire a year and a half ago, Darchinyan seemed to think defense was a waste of his time. He was about knocking people out, apparently believing the power he carried with him somehow made him invulnerable to anything that might come back in his direction.
Some guys learn from such foolish mistakes. Others do not. Vic Darchinyan has clearly learned plenty, including how to box and how to avoid engaging in one senseless brawl after another.
This is not to say he doesn’t still come to the arena with only one thought in mind – which is to disengage his opponent from his senses. But how he does it is the difference.
Cristian Mijares was on nearly every pound-for-pound list before he met Darchinyan. He is a consummate boxer, a fighter who understands angles and movement. Yet he seemed to understand nothing about Darchinyan when they met last Nov. 1 except that he had no answers to the problems he posed.
Darchinyan battered him from one side of the ring to the other, seldom being hit while rattling Mijares time after time before the bout was stopped after nine one-sided rounds. It would be unfair to say the victory itself was an upset but the manner in which it came – with Darchinyan not only out powering Mijares but cleverly out boxing him as well – was a revelation.
Last weekend, Darchinyan stepped in with hard-nosed Jorge Arce in a fight boxing aficionados had longed hope to see. What they saw in the end was not what they expected because Darchinyan took Arce apart in the same brutal way he had Mijares, sending him to the hospital an hour after the fight was stopped after 11 rounds because Arce’s blood pressure was rising and falling dangerously and he was complaining of pain behind his eyes and ear.
No wonder why if you saw the beating Darchinyan (32-1-1, 26 KO) gave him. But, again, what was most impressive was Darchinyan’s new-found boxing ability. His use of angles, movement, shoulder rolls and slight body shifts to keep himself out of harm’s way while still within punching distance were notable and a marked improvement on what he was the night he waded into a left hook from Donaire and went to sleep.
“He’s a lot like that Lazy Susan you see at the Chinese restaurants,’’ said Gary Shaw, Darchinyan’s promoter, after the stoppage of Arce. “You reach for the prime rib, all of a sudden it moves to the other side. He takes an opponent’s game plan completely away.’’
Ceretainly he did that to both Mijares and Arce, two very different types of fighters. Where Mijares is smooth as Three-in-1 oil, Arce is all rough edges and rough housing. Didn’t matter. Neither guy belonged in the same ring with this Vic Darchinyan.
For weeks Darchinyan and Arce had taunted each other. Both like to talk and both like to fight. One has to wonder if Arce still feels that way after the beating he took.
Arce had said he hoped there would be a lot of blood in the fight because it inspired him. If that was the case then he should have been more inspired than anyone who heard Martin Luther King’s “I Have A Dream’’ speech live because he was covered in his own plasma by the time Dr. Paul Wallace stepped in after 11 rounds and told referee Lou Moret, in essence, “What are you waiting for?’’ and stopped the fight.
None too soon, except in the opinion of Arce, which only proved how much damage had been done to him if he really thought there was a point to sending him out for another three-minute beating.
Vic Darchinyan calls himself “The Raging Bull,’’ which considering his lack of physical stature seems a bit of an exaggeration. Then he starts talking or fighting (often times doing both at once) and it all makes terrible sense.
Just like it now makes sense to include him on those pound-for-pound lists boxing fans love to argue over. He may not be at the top of them as long as Manny Pacquiao is around but he’s already making noise about wanting to face another brawler who’s not too far down that list – super bantamweight champion Israel Vazquez.
The two of them were taking pictures together after the fight. If they ever face each other, the pictures after that fight will very likely be x-rays.
If Vic Darchinyan keeps boxing the way he has been lately, they very likely won’t be his.
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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Vic should definitely be on p4p list. He is the most exciting fighter out there today. He basically destroyed Mijares and gave Arce a beating. He seems to be getting better and better. I hope he doesn't go any higher then 118 because anything higher then that the guys would be too big and he won't be able to take there punch.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 09:40:50 AM
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Stricer:
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Vic is a great fighter. In fact, I can place him next to Pacquiao or Marquez in P4P Rankings. He beat top fighters like Kirilov, Mijares and now Arce. But what makes me hate him is because he is too cocky. He speaks a lot. The same with his promoter Gary Shaw. Outside the ring, Vic is better than Mayweather. Inside the ring, he is Pacquiao. Although Vic is just one dimensional fighter just like the old Pacquiao. If Vic develop his defense, make his chin rock solid, and side to side movement, he will reign in the top spot. But before he goes up in weight, Shaw must forgive and forget while Vic must face first Donaire in the 115 category with 3 belts on the line. Then 65-35 split in revenues goes to Vic. This one I can't await.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 11:09:54 AM
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Yuvie:
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He deserves to be in the p4p list for sure. It'd be very interesting to see the Darchinyan/Donaire re-match because only in that match would we see how much he really has improved. As soon as they got in the ring with Vic, none of these other guys, including respected skilled boxers like Mijares & Khirilov, seemed to have a clue how to deal with Darchinyan. Donaire did. He's definately a very confusing and decent boxer but he still has some big weaknesses which I can't believe someone like Mijares didn't exploint.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 11:26:48 AM
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Yuvie:
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*exploit
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 11:27:48 AM
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MisterLee:
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Let's see how he does agst another p4p in Marquez or Vasquez in the near future. Tho I haven't been following his division, I still think he needs to be rocked so that we can see something in him that's pure heart and courage (i'm he has, but you know what I mean).
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 11:46:43 AM
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#1 Pacfan P4P "Express":
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I would love to see the rematch also. I don't think he has improved much though, Arce did connect some good punches in there.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 12:24:29 PM
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Big Daddy Thinks Vic Was The REAL FOY '08:
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Darchinyan needs that Bad Atitude to get noticed and for his own personal motivation. He seems like a serious but friendly sort when not hyping his next fight. I really don't think he's anywhere near PBF on True A-Hole Meter. Has anyone seen the latest Viral Video floating around with Floyd? What a D-Bag . I think Vic is comparable to Roberto Duran, in that he uses animosity towards his next opponent as motivation. Even if he may not really feel that way. I love the guy, he reminds me of a Mini-Duran.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 01:39:41 PM
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jal111:
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vic on the p4p list, maybe not yet at the moment. having koed by donaire that bad, he dont deserve to be on the p4p list. pacman won against great fighters and jump on different weight classes before get his name on the pound for pound list. i watched the fight between darchinyan n donaire, he get knockdown and having problem grtting up on his feet and after the fight he said donaire didn't hurt him,hahahahaha. i cant wait for the donaire-darchinyan II. if he beat donaire really bad, i think he can be on the p4p list right away. calling shaw!!! give us the fight we want!!!
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 01:46:53 PM
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Fil Sanchez:
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Yeah, Vic should be in p4p top five. Nonito should not because he knocked Vic out. Yeah, Vic has beaten Kirilov, Mijares and Arce. Nonito knocked him out in five. Nonito is the fluke. Vic is the truth. Vic is the Raging Bull. Nonito is just the "Flash" but his tail is 'up'. Okay, Nonito, let them crown Vic. Your 'Knock Out Of The Year' in July, 2007 remains your 'Laurel'. Braggarts talk because it's only their resort.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 01:55:01 PM
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Lito:
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I got one name for Vic D....Nonito Donaire, Jr. In fairness to Vic, he is very much open to a rematch with Donaire but unfortunately, Shaw would block that rematch as long as Shaw is Vic's promoter. Shaw is pathetic. Shaw is taking things personal becuase Donaire dumped Shaw for Top Rank. Vic should also dump Shaw and join either Top Rank or Golden Boy so he could get more fights and get a rematch with Donaire. Shaw must remember its Vic needs Donaire to establish a legacy, not the other way around. Peace.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 02:03:30 PM
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pinoyako:
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Darchinyan is definitely on my top 10 pound 4 pound list. however he isnt in top 5 yet. he still needs to fight donaire and beat him convincingly to be on the top 5 pound 4 pound. donaire is a much better fighter than mijarez or arce he just couldnt get the big fights he wanted for better ratings and exposure and undergone poor management.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 02:51:12 PM
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Yuvie:
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Fil Sanchez - Fluke? Watch the fight again, watch the knockout in slow motion. That was no fluke. That was a perfect counter. Donaire could literally see Darchinyan punch coming and countered beautifully with the left. That there was the sweet science at it's sweetest. Donaire had Darchinyan all over the place, there's no getting away from that. It's just a shame that he had a group of things which hindered his career after the Maldonado fight.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 02:59:30 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Shaw is smart. It is all about increasing the money for Evil Vic Stateside, and keeping the evil one under that Shaw's thumb. Evil Vic definitely get kayoed again by the "Filipino Flash." But he should get paid well for another arse whooping. Bottomline, he should dump Promoter Shaw, and go for a 1.5-million purse to fight Donaire in Macau, China, or Dubai, United Arab Emirate. These places are paying big bucks to boxing stars, especially Asian ones. Make that money while you can, and while it is there. I'm reminded of the crooked promoter in the late 1970s and early 1980s who was given out big purses with stolen money from Well Fargo. Fighters who couldn't beat the cowardly lion of the Wizard of Oz, made some monster money back then. Decent fighters like Evil Vic should go for the big purses now. They are legit. It's no secret that Evil Vic's chin is highly suspected of being like china. Get PAID for that china before it goes down in value and get shattered by another puncher. Holla!
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 03:37:22 PM
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boxingFan4lif:
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HEHEHEHE.......look at the face of the person who cant accept defeat during the Donaire vs Darchinyan fight. This guy is a joke title holder like his promoter(Shaw). After he got knockout cold by Donaire, ever since his been running away from him. He doesnt deserve anything in p4p list until he gave Donaire a fight. Put him to the real test first.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 04:15:58 PM
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lacson:
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he will always be considered as the one not good enough to beat donaire. the victim of a knock out of the year and upset of the year.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 04:27:40 PM
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Jam:
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inside the ring Dic I mean Vic is not Pacquiao not even to mentioned. NOT even the old Pacquiao, So don't even place this dude next to Pacman. Just by mentioning Pacquiao in this comments...Vic is NOT! worth it.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 04:57:05 PM
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MARK LUCHE:
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darchinyan still has no chance against the filipino flash donaire and gary shaw knew this thats y he is always making excuses as much as he can.. darhinyans awkward styles is a tailor made for donaire.. and if they will face ian a rematch donaire has the psycological advantage because of his knockout win over darhinyan.. while darchinyan will not fight donaire in his usual style because he knows that it is not effective ..darchinyan still dosent know how to evade a left hook as what i had observed against arce.. if a rematch will happen in the future donaire will KO DARCHINYAN in 6th rd. and he will be THE SLEEPING BULL hit with a mad cow virus... go donaire go!
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 05:31:31 PM
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ervin:
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"nonito vs. vic" is a great potential for a trilogy, considering vic defeats nonito in the rematch... a 50-50 split on purse would be reasonable enough. this could be the biggest pay day for both fighters... but before this gets done, they have to work on one problem, that is Gary Shaw. For vic to have his revenge, he first must solve this one. and the only way to solve this....KICK GARY OUT!!!... lol...
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 06:03:22 PM
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Nestor Butalid Visaya:
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If Vic Dachinyan wants to prove that he deserves top for 4p4 list then he should beat donaire in their rematch. But, I think he's too coward to face donaire again to avoid being knocked out for the second time.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 06:33:58 PM
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limestonebox:
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why is gary shaw so frightened to a rematch with donaire? enough for that disloyal ingrate crap! he is just so afraid he cannot imagine himself with vic losing again to donaire again! poor vic he cannot reach reach boxing immortality unless he excorcise the ghost of his past and that is donaire! let 'em fight for fans sake!
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 07:12:51 PM
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Real Talk:
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I'm taking Vic in the rematch with Donaire if it happens . Donaire is very good , but Vic fought the dumbest fight of his professional career . He ran into a picture perfect left hook . That doesn't happen in the rematch . As far as his chin goes, I haven't seen anything that tells me it's suspect . Dueces
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 07:25:18 PM
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bugoy:
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ok. if vic wants to be in p4p list then let's give him the nod.. let's put him in p4p at number 99..hehehe.. 'Da-chin-yan' in one of filipino dialects means "VULNERABLE CHIN" and the Filipino Flash exposed it.. gudluck Vic 'the dreamer' Da-chin-yan you're in the top 99 of the p4p list now... one notch behind gary shaw at 98..hehehe..
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 07:33:47 PM
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bbtroy:
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yeah... darchinyan deserves to be in p4p list if he can avenge his only loss to donaire in a trilogy.. he should make donaire outperform his chickern dance.. unless shaw moderates his egocentric attitude and ceases to be pettyful, i dont think vic deserved to be considered as one. until then, i would say shaw and darchinyan is scared of donaire...
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 08:05:14 PM
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barukdok:
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@real talk:
obviously you don't watch enough boxing. vic was knocked down by the light puncher Z Gorres. his chin remains suspect. that fight against donaire was a masterclass by the Filipino, who broke the armenian down little by little in every round. nonito had been setting up that left hook all the time, and landing them with precision. he also took vic's hardest blows and didn't budge, instead he countered with stinging straights of his own. vic is no match for nonito. live with that.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 09:06:23 PM
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Alexandr Hermann:
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Vic must settle the draw with "Z" Gorres and must defeat Nonito Donnaire Jr. if he wants to break into the top 10 P4P. Dreaming to fight at batam division? Israel Vasquez, Rafael Marquez, Gerry Penalosa, Juan Manuel Lopez welcome him. If he wants a Filipino tuneup fight at bantam, he must call on a young fighter named Roberto Gonzales from the Philippines. This fighter will surely write finish to Vic's burning ambition to capture some more belts in other divisions.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 09:24:49 PM
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edgardo:
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vic just KO an aging mexican fighter, let him face Filipino "z" gorrez and Donaire, but he will just say " i want it" and shaw will say I dont like it". This is only shaw show. Both of them are afraid of the Filipino fighter. period.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 09:45:06 PM
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dimisuperman:
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crappy article. . . the author is a vic nut huger. . . you guys are totally being blind. . .
here's the catch, vic needs to fight donaire if he really is a p4p fighter. remember nonito spank his ass by coming down in weight to avenge his bro. super fly was nonito's true weight that time.
but shaw is protecting his cash cow. he does'nt want to risk vic to another loss because he knows that nothing has changed with vic. and i saw the fight against arce, he was still the same old vic. stop hypnotizing your readers.
common, he beat mijares, not known as a power puncher. . . arce, who loves to be punched in the face. who would you expect to be victorius there. . . it's called cherry picking. yes, vic has powers in his punch but is very vulnerable to be outboxed. just like what donaire did. the difference there is that nonito also have powers in his hands. the left caught vic coz nonito is a true lefty.
so, do you see my point? . . . not unless vic avenged his loss to nonito he is nothing to a lot of people. he just keeps on running away from nonito and is being helped by his gay promoter.
they know nonito is comming up in weght so they will rush that vic vasquez fight.
it will be suicide for vic to come up in wieght. . . LOL!! peace.
Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 11:24:45 PM
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Dan Bald:
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"You don't reward a disloyal people" ... with another knockout.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 12:13:13 AM
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bugbugincya:
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Vic can't get through Donaire. Donaire is a very fine boxer with a huge fist that can break down Darchinyan. Shaw knows that Darchinyan won't be able to pass through Donaire.He knows too well...Tsk tsk...
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 12:20:30 AM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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Vic has said he wants to fight Nonito, Did we forget that Vic made Nonito's brother quit in the ring?? Vic doesn't need Nonito. Why do we see Vic on TV and in the big fights when we don't see Nonito at all. Gary Shaw said that Nonito was not loyal. He even said that Nonito dumped his own father. Vic has Mijares, Arce. Why didn't Nonito fight those guys. I'm not a fan of Gary Shaw but if someone gives me a title shot at the top guy in the division I should show some loyalty somewhere. Look at who Nonito has fought. A lot of sub par fighters. Why don't Nonito fight a big fight? Why can't he fight Montiel? Vic is the man and he's the money man. Because he is the most exciting LiL Big Man in boxing. In a rematch I pick Vic to beat Nonito.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 12:39:23 AM
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darchickendancer:
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oh really? nothing suspect of that chin of his? see round 3 and 4 of chicken and arse's fight, you'll see chicken was in trouble and clearly wobbled it's just that arse didn't capitalize well enough on that opportunity. and guess what? it's another left hook, his favorite punch to eat.
and nonito a fluke? see rounds 1 to 4 and you'll see him serving left hooks for breakfast lunch and dinner and even dessert for chicken to eat all rounds.
what happened with uglyshaw, he was preppin darchicken to be the big star,bet lots of money on his boytoy,and told nonito to give the fight away.uglyshaw lost a lot of money on that fight.since nonito didn't want to follow the script, he chose his own future.he has no future under uglyshaw cos he saw all he cared about was his boytoy chicken.it's good for him he transferred to arum.that is what uglyshaw is blabbering about the so called nonito "being unloyal" he didn't follow orders, not because he moved out of uglyshaw and moved to arum.this isn't wwe where there's a script to follow on who wins.duh!
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 01:25:28 AM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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I ask again, did anyone not see the fight where the brother of Nonito, Glenn Donaire quit in his fight against Vic? If Donaire is the man then why is he not getting the good fights and he's with Top Rank and Bob Arum could have easily put Arce in the ring with Nonito because both fighters are with Top Rank. Nonito's career seem to be going backwards since he left Shaw and went to Top Rank. Vic Darchinyan P4P top 5. Give the man credit. Most exciting LiL Big Man in boxing!
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 02:21:07 AM
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LIsten to all you Donaire lovers. nonito needs Vic more than the other way around.All you Pinoys live off that one defeat as though Nonito was Jesus Christ. You put too much emphasis on that win, Vic had already demolished his brother and didnt get up for the fight with Nonito.Just comparethe names on there records andtheire accopliciaments to see who is the better fighter. Plain and simple Vic got careless and Donaire got lucky (probably the greatest punch he'll throughin hislife . He hasnt beaten anyone of note since nor will he accomplish as much . Check out Kostya Tszyu vs Vince Phillips as just one of many examples. And STOP HATING on King VIC he is the champ
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 04:25:03 AM
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the flash:
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Nonito is not getting any good fights because hes being avoided, just like JMM in his early years. Other Flyweight champions doesnt want to unify the belt with him, Montiel didnt accept the fight with Nonito coz he know his a live underdog, and instead turn back and move up in weight. Darchinyan even though hes tough, but hes one dimensional fighter, and a very dirty one, just watch how he broke Glenn Donaires jaw with his elbow, and watch the rd2 and rd3 of mijares firght, he keeps slipping those elbows.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 04:49:32 AM
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darchinyan is right to moove up a weight for a fresh challange , what has donaire done since beating darchinyan ? nothing he has nothing to offer vic now ! , darchinyan can prob get a title shot stright away at bantemweight and montiel the jap champ , or vasquez vic can beat quit easily , and i agree he seems to be maturing and getting better with each fight..
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 05:18:39 AM
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jip2:
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his style doesnt change at all.. he'll be no match for donaire jr.! lol
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 06:26:06 AM
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Joel:
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Marquez among Top P4P? LOL Ok? Vasquez yes....Pacquiao,Calderon,Vasquez,Dawson,Darchinyan.
Mate what happened to the careers of Vince Phillips and Kostya Tsyzu after Vince derailed Kostya?....Kostya will be well and truly on his way to the HOf and Vince...not so much....Same situation with Nonito and Vic
VIVA LA VIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 06:49:13 AM
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joker:
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SchoolOfHardKnocks you're right, the most exciting LiL Big Man in boxing!!! Specially in the 5th round against DONAIRE I was so EXCITED I was doing cartwheels when I saw VIC gettin' knockedthefckout!!!LOL!!!!
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 11:16:46 AM
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red_saint25:
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Nonito is ready to figth the best of the best...supposed to meet Montiel for his belt but they are saying that he cannot make the weight anymore. Nonito is also challenging Daisuke to unify the the WBC and IBF flyweight crown but they are saying that they don't recognize the legitimacy of IBF. just a couple of misfortune or just a simple case of docking the best fighter on this division? hey Gay Shaw and Vic 'the raging chicken dance' Darchinyan what do you think?
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 01:07:51 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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SRay&Aussieopinion..I agree with you. You see they will not say anything about how Glenn Donaire quit like the coward that he is. Joker, Vic did walk into a left hook. Did you see Manny lying face first on the canvas when he got KTFO twice. Donaire hasn't fought anyone since that win against Vic. IF you think that anyone is dodging Donaire it really shows the lack of knowledge you have in this sport. Vic is the most exciting LiL Big Man in the game today! Wait until Vic get a hold of Penalosa, that bum shouldn't even have a title. Glenn Donaire has no heart HE QUIT! Vic dominated Glenn so bad that he went down in weight to try an fight and lost again. Vic took his heart! Glenn beat Jose Albuquerque, my kid that was 5-0 beat Albuquerque.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 01:34:07 PM
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jal111:
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SchoolOfHardKnocks keep on mentioning nonito's bro. its not between glenn n vic. its nonito n vic, because thats how vic gonna redeem himself, fight the one who koed him very bad. he can't even stand up n still said nonito didn't hurt him. nonito went to top rank because shaw cannot give him any fight. anyone treated like that will dump any promoter whos not doing their job!!!
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 01:59:18 PM
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Yuvie:
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SchoolOfHardKnocks - What the hell does Glenn donaire being knocked out have to do with Nonito? What a stupid, stupid, stupid comment. We're talking about Nonito here. As far as I've seen, Nonito hasn't quit or been knocked out yet. Get over your nuthuggin of Vic. Nonito OWNED him. Nonito was set to fight Montiel but Montiel decided to up and leave for Bantamweight. Nonito has had his setbacks, what can he do? Every boxer has set backs. Seriously SOHK, stop hatin so much on filipino fighters.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 02:00:01 PM
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Yuvie:
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Also SOHK, I'm sure Nonito will get along alright without Vic. The more Vic does, the better it makes Nonito's win look. I like Vic and all but you are way too pro-darchinyan. Did you actually watch that fight or maybe you didn't because a 'filipino bum' as you always seem to put it was involved. Hilarious, a filipino bum exposed and knocked your darling Darchinyan out.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 02:21:05 PM
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Dan Bald:
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Darchinyan (32,1,1, 26 KO). That "1" in the middle is donaire.
Everytime that Armenian wakes up, he always think of that chicken dance. Forget the "32" and "26", forget mijares and arce.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 05:55:44 PM
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jazz-t:
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Vic is undeserving to be line with the p4p fighters unless he can have a rematch with Donaire Jr.. even if he can beat all the best bantamweights in the world, he is still nothing when it comes to Donaire.. stop running over to Nonito, time for you to engage with him in a rematch to prove yourself as included in p4p fighters. dont be afraid because a raging bull is not coward, show to the world that you are not coward, dismissed shaw.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 07:47:53 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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Yuvie, I know anything is stupid when you don't agree with it. I mentioned Glenn Donaire because that is the brother of Nonito, Vic fought both of them. He wasn't ducking anyone. If you really knew anything about boxing you wouldn't have made the lame comments that you made. Yes Bobby Pacquiao, Glenn Donaire, Gerry Penalosa, are all BUMS!! I have no problem with any fighter but I'm not just going to let you make it seem as though filipino fighters are good fighters when they win a fight. Look at the fighters that Nonito has fought, if he's over at top rank at a better place, then why is he not getting the good fights? No one is afraid of Nonito. GET REAL!! You are a joke you clown. Once again, when I used Glenn Donaire and Bobby Pacquiao, it kind of shows what type of fighters the filipinos really are. They have no heart when the fight is physical. The want to QUIT!! Like Gary Shaw said about filipino's, he thought that had loyalty, now they have shown no heart or any loyalty. Vic is the MAN!!
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 09:34:09 PM
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Aussie boxers are low class anyway, there hasn't a single kangaroo boxer that made history in the sport. Pinoys has boat load of them. Darchinyan is probably the best fighter that kangaroo nation has ever produced. For darchinyan calling on pacquio
Is like a chihuahua picking on a pittbull, vicky whose 33 is going to chalenge the most dynamic boxer to date paquiao 30 who's fighting on a welterweight now! vicky needs to stop wishing because he might get it and when he does that might be the last fight of his carreer.
Wednesday Feb 11, 2009 11:52:16 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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Yuvie, I'm not going to ignore your comments okay because you have shown a lot of ignorance and it shows me you have absolutely no clue about boxing. I don't hate any race and I never will but I didn't hear you say anything to any of these ignorant guys like pinoy majesty that would say such ridiculous stuff. It's okay. I have no problem with that. I work in the boxing game and you have seen me before but it's fun listening to a lot of perpertrators. There's only one other person on here that If I ever met on the street I would straight smash him so do me a favor ignore my comments an I will do the same to yours
Thursday Feb 12, 2009 12:43:39 AM
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Yuvie:
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In all honesty, I only really read a certain group of other peoples comments, the rest I ignore. You happen to be one of them, most of the others I ignore. I just find it stupid that you can make that argument just because they are brothers. Okay, Nonito is still somewhat untested but he beat one of the best and took some pretty decent shots from Vic. Just because his brother quit, doesn't mean he's gonna be the same. Same with Bobby and Manny. You picked the worst two examples. When has a guy like Penalosa ever quit? So Gary Shaw had a bad experience with one filipino so that makes them all the same, no loyalty? That's a little unfair. I'm a pretty neutral person. I'm not gonna pick an argument with everybody. As I said, I stick to looking at a limited few and I gotta say that I found that comment of yours a little stupid. Get yourself riled up and boast about what you do. In reality, I don't care what you do or if you're famous in the boxing world. Ignore eachother? Okay, if you wanna be like kids, so be it. Can't believe you're acting like that.
Thursday Feb 12, 2009 02:15:28 PM
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Yuvie:
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Smash me up? Come on man, this is the internet, a discussion forum. What's the point of threats. It's pretty sad that you have to resort to that as part of your argument.
Thursday Feb 12, 2009 02:19:07 PM
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dimbo:
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If vic fanatics call him the king. Then tell me, how would you call the man who destroyed him ?
And mind you, it was not a lucky punch that sent Vic to the canvass.. Again, not a lucky punch because Vic walked into that left hook throughout the duration of the fight. He did not even won a single round in the fight.
If Vic really wants to fight Donaire, then why cant he convince his promoter to give him the fight that he wants. Take the case of Pacquiao, he refused to sign the contract to fight Hatton unless he gets what he wants. Vic should also do the same if only to settle the score. So much with this ungrateful crap. Thruth is, Vic is just feaking scared of the Flash. Period....
One more thing, Shaw is even more ungrateful than Donaire because he refused to give the fight that his fighter wants. Its the fighter that bleeds and sweats in the ring.The same fighter that brings in money for the promoter. Shaw should be grateful to his fighter and not the other way around.
Thursday Feb 12, 2009 07:00:57 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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Yuvie, excuse me but I was saying smash you up. I was just saying there was this other person. Some guy who keeps spreading stuff and he doesn't even know me. The person that he's talking about is not me at all but he keeps it up and I do hope to see him one day. I don't have anything against you and I'm the same way, I'm pretty neutral. I have said negative things about oscar, roy, bernard, floyd, cotto, manny and others but when someone hear something about one of there people then they go and think someone doesn't like them for another reason. I have respect for anyone and everyone.
Thursday Feb 12, 2009 09:14:28 PM
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SchoolOfHardKnocks:
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I wasn't saying smash you up. It's cool though. Trying to keep the peace.lol
Thursday Feb 12, 2009 10:39:34 PM
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Yuvie:
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It's all good. The reason why you're among those who I read is because of your neutral and intelligent posts. I mis-read the 'smashing up' part. That's the problem with the internet, you get people like that. Sad that people have to do that kind of thing.
Friday Feb 13, 2009 01:25:39 PM
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chaii:
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well his beat the little boys cant wait to see if he stands up & fights the pac man??????
Sunday Feb 15, 2009 02:38:44 PM
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buster:
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i can't believe some of you guys,
vic has put away some tough and great boxers in his last few fights,and all you can do is bring up a fight from years ago,,,that stupied all you can do is talk about his defeat like his the only person in the sport to loose,,,it a joke,,your self hate,is blinded by Vic,s,get real guys most great boxers in history have had losses,,,,,,,,,GET OVER IT!!!!
Sunday Feb 15, 2009 08:03:36 PM
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You Have To Take The Test To Be Called The Best
"People can say whatever they like about Floyd Mayweather Jr....and they will....but they can never say the man challenges himself to be the best." ---TSS All-Star reader El Feroz weighs in on who he thinks is at blame for the Manny-Money negotiation flameout
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