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Pacquiao Wins Round One Against Hatton
By Ron Borges
Manny Pacquiao finally locked in the biggest payday of his career Friday – a guaranteed $12 million to face off with Ricky Hatton May 2 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena – but his trainer still thinks he’s underpaid.
Pacquiao took Hatton and his promoters, Oscar De La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, to the brink and then made them blink. He did the same thing a few months back when he forced De La Hoya to throw him an extra three per cent (62-38 rather than 65-35 split of their Dec. 8 fight) and then made him blink again throughout a one-sided eight round beating that ended only when De La Hoya quit on his stool.
That dominating victory over boxing’s Golden Boy, coupled with the fact Pacquiao believed he’d made him back down in their negotiations as well, led him to some brinksmanship with Hatton that had Schaefer growling, his own promoter, Bob Arum, shaking his head and trainer Freddie Roach in the dark until all sides relented on their insistence that the purse be split 50-50 and agreed to a 52-48 breakdown that guarantees Pacquiao $12 million plus a sweetener from Arum that he claims “won’t cost me anything’’ but others whisper is worth $1.5 million extra.
What would have cost them all dearly was if Pacquiao didn’t get the A side of the purse and walked away. Pacquiao’s thinking on this was so simple it’s absurd the numbers crunchers couldn’t see it until the fight was threatened. In his mind he knocked out De La Hoya and his biggest fight on one of the biggest pay-per-view cards in history. Hatton got knocked out by Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in his biggest fight. How does that result in a 50-50 purse split?
“Every time somebody beats Oscar they want Oscar money,’’ Roach said Friday from California, where he will work the corner of MMA heavyweight Andrei Arlovski at Saturday night’s Affliction pay-per-view show in Anaheim. “Hatton brings a lot to the table because he did well on pay-per-view with Mayweather. But he didn’t do as well with Paulie Malignaggi in his last fight. Maybe that’s the economy. Maybe it’s because it was Paulie and not Floyd. You have to ask yourself how much of the sales were driven by Mayweather.
“After you get knocked out people don’t look at you the same way, either. Whatever it was, Manny wanted to be the bigger guy and he deserved to be the bigger guy. Manny wanted 60-40. I didn’t want to see him blow the fight over it but I felt he deserved it. In the end he got 52-48. Why not? Manny beat De La Hoya easily. Hatton got knocked out by Mayweather. Richard Schaefer is a pretty good negotiator but Manny was more than fair.’’
Schaefer loudly criticized Pacquiao after claiming he had a verbal agreement with Arum and Hatton for a 50-50 split of the millions anticipated. Only problem was he didn’t have it with the star of the show and he didn’t get it until Pacquiao did what he’s done to so many of his opponents in the ring. He made them blink.
Now the deal appears to be ironed out - and wisely so by all sides from a financial and fistic standpoint - Roach is anxious to get Pacquiao into a training camp set to begin March 1 at his Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, Ca. That’s two solid months of training for an opponent who, frankly, Roach believes is a perfect foil for boxing’s reigning pound-for-pound champion.
“I’m glad it happened,’’ Roach said. “Hatton is made for Manny. He’s a tough guy who comes forward. He’s a game guy looking to mug you. That’s the perfect style for Manny.
“Manny’s speed and his ability to go side-to-side and in and out makes Hatton perfect for him because he’s right there in front of you, coming forward, all the time. A guy like Mayweather is much more difficult because he’s always moving and he’s defensive. You’ve got to chase him to make it a fight.
“You don’t have to chase Hatton. You don’t have to look for Ricky. You know where he’s going to be. He’s right there in front of you, which is what Manny likes. He likes a guy who wants to try and make it a fight.’’
Roach, who has spent his entire life in the fight game, never believed the bout was off despite screaming headlines to that effect two days ago when Pacquiao rejected the 50-50 split Arum had negotiated for him. Schaefer stamped his feet and the Hattons supposedly directed him to go find another big fight for the junior welterweight champion but the fact is there was no other big fight and they all knew it.
So did Manny Pacquiao.
The Juan Manuel Marquez-Juan Diaz winner, especially if it turned out to be Marquez, would have been a fairly big payday for Pacquiao but for Hatton it would have meant little and if it was Diaz nothing. As for Mayweather, both sides understand that is the second fight in this two-fight arrangement because if you fight Mayweather and lose, as Hatton already has in one-sided fashion, then there’s no Pacquiao fight to sell the public.
“They could both go to Mayweather but they all knew that’s the second fight, not the first fight,’’ Roach said with a laugh. “The thing is Manny doesn’t really care about fighting Mayweather. After Hatton he wants to fight (welterweight champion Antonio) Margarito.
“He told Arum that already. He told Arum, ‘I can outbox him all night long.’ Margarito is relentless and he’s got that iron chin but I would never underestimate Manny.’’
That is now a wise approach, not only for his opponents, but also for the negotiators representing those opponents because ever since he got that extra three per cent from De La Hoya and then gave him a night-long beating, Manny Pacquiao seemed to grasp just who he is and where he fits in the marketplace.
According to a press release sent out by Winchell Campos, a Pacquiao associate, Pacquiao said, “They were quoted as saying that if I do not sign their contract they already have offers for them to fight in the British Isles with 80,000 people watching. Now it’s obvious that they were just bluffing…I want to fight Ricky Hatton if the terms are right and fair. Modesty aside, I did not become the best pound-for-pound fighter by fighting patsies on my way to the top…I proved I can fight at any weight level…What Schaefer failed to consider is the fact I am not fighting De La Hoya in this match.’’
The latter was a reference to Schaefer claiming after it appeared the fight had fallen through that just because you beat Oscar De La Hoya it doesn’t make you Oscar De La Hoya. That was never Manny Pacquiao’s contention. His contention was just because you get knocked out by Floyd Mayweather, Jr. it doesn’t make you Manny Pacquiao.
On that point, in the end, he prevailed. Soon he and Hatton will be together on a press tour to London and Manchester, England, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. On every stop Pacquiao will know who blinked when the money was on the line. It wasn’t him.
Come May 2, he and Freddie Roach believe the same thing will happen again. He’ll make the other guy blink…all night long.
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another amazingly good article, ron. it appears u have a good take on what goes on in the mind of a master boxer/businessman. pacquiao deserves more than what he's getting. only a fool would tell u hatton deserves 50-50. hatton has his fans in britain, but the whole world wants to see pacquiao's next fight. this will be, nonetheless, a great fight. their styles are made for an exciting fight. both love to throw in bunches, neither will wait a minute to throw, both have grit and heavy hands. one is just a better technician and that will make all the difference. hatton, unfortunately, can only fight one way. manny has more options. and as roach said, hatton will be walking forward, which is the way pacquiao likes it. pacquiao by KO round 7.
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:02:59 PM
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pinoy_majesty:
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Pinoy is in da houze!!! Mr. Manny Pacquiao will destroy hatton! Then he's going to knock out margarito! You heard it here peeps! Mr. Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter P4P eva and would thump everyone from 175 and below! I would like to see him bludgeon pavlik! I know he would do it. He'll be President within the next 5 years so he needs to hurry up and keep breaking the bank and then save the world!
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:05:50 PM
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Real Talk:
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I'm still up in the air on this one , but I'm leaning towards Hatton on premonition . Dueces
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:09:24 PM
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Javier:
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Pacboy by KO in 9.
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:22:51 PM
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Robert Curtis:
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This from a writer who had Manny KO'd by 7 in the DeLaHoya match. From little faith to champion accountant.
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:31:46 PM
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Burog:
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the fight will not push through...
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:41:06 PM
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pinoy_idol:
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manny pacquiao will knock out ricky on the 9th rd
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:04:15 AM
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Viel Mervic:
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As far as I'm concerned, it's wonderful the fight materialized. I'm a Pacfan but I will be fair in saying this: Ricky Hatton had only one PPV fight (I'm not sure...) in the US, drew almost 900,000 buys, and yet, he's fighting Mayweather on that one, who just beat De La Hoya 7 months prior. 900,000? Hatton's also not on many's p4p list, but still manage to get that many buys. Of course he's entitled to have a fair share of the cut from the profit of their upcoming fight but come on, Manny's the draw. Ever since. Even before Manny fought De La Hoya, he was the bigger draw than Hatton. Hatton and his team could've thought of that during these on-and-off weeks of negotiation. Plus, Ricky's got everything to gain and nothing to lose (unless you can call the Ring magazine and IBO light welterweight titles "things to lose" rather than the mythical P4P king title...). He said before that he wants to fight the P4P king and it's his dream to become one, so he shouldn't be the one doing the offer, but the one who should be accepting. Still, I'm happy now that the fight is a go. It's not fair predicting a winner, but like I said, as a Pacfan, I'm rooting for my guy. This fight is huge!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:11:59 AM
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boxingpinoy.com:
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It’s funny how these negotiation comes to play at times. One day a fight is about to be made and the very next day the fight crumbles apart. One day the fight crumbles apart and the very next day the fight is made. Very unpredictable. But these types of negotiations are not anything new in boxing. Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins had their own fling when Jones wanted a bigger share from the pie against Hopkins. De La Hoya had his own against Mosley and Trinidad. The reason why Mosley and Trinidad were not able to pull a fast one on De La Hoya is simply because De La Hoya was still around. When a boxer is able to give the performance of a lifetime, regardless of what the world believes, he will demand respect by wanting a bigger slice of the pie.
I still think that Pacquiao should have stuck to his guns at 55-45 in his favor. De La Hoya as of now is non-existent and if anyone who is deserving of a De LaHoya-like bargaining system it would be Pacquiao. But then again $12 million guarantee is a lot of money plus PPV percentages both from the US and UK. That’s hard to pass considering Money Mayweather failed to get his hands on the UK monies which resulted in millions of dollars.
Pacquiao does not only represent the mythical throne of Boxing’s Pound for Pound King but he also is Boxing’s Pound for Pound Drama King. For three weeks he had the world at his feet, dazed and confused with his negotiating skills. Bob Arum, Richard Schaeffer, and the Hatton camp were so confused, in a way, they felt what it was like to fight Pacquiao atop of the ring. Nacho Beristain described Pacquiao as complicated and hard to figure out. That’s exactly how Pacquiao pulled a fast one on Hatton.
So, now, here we are. Pacquiao-Hatton on May 2nd. Who will prevail? We shall see. Are you excited?
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:24:32 AM
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erikboy:
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pacman by KO in 8-9 rd.... hatton will be outbox by manny... steady target... hatton was KO by PBF,,, manny is stronger than PBF,,, MANNY IS FASTER,,, STRONGER.. PULBUSIN MO SILA MANNY.... mabuhay ka,,,
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:25:30 AM
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PSBN:
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the world will see the greatest fight and don't blink at 8th rd
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:27:12 AM
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charles:
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That's what I like, no more mayweather, pacquiao should go for antonio margarito!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:29:11 AM
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arnzdxb:
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good work ron, good research as well. manny never acknowledge himself as the face of boxing (w/c was oscar's role for the last decade). The people acknowledge that, not him and to schaffer who's face reminds me of the good old smart ass banker, you gotta realize who'se the hot ticket in boxing today and he's not on your stable...and the way to get him to fight in your promotion is give him the respect he's due, oscar did that after their fight in front of 1.40million PPV viewers - YOU DO THAT AS WELL SMART A#$.
as for pac fighting the tijuana tornado - it doesn't make sense for pac, money wise and risk wise, why not fight Cotto who can easily draw same attention as margarito. Pac vs Cotto is almost the same as Pac vs Floyd, cotto is also shorter than margarito he and manny should pair well inside the ring.
cheers mate!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:30:31 AM
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F. Cuyos III:
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Let's not be overconfident, as for manny just prepare well for this brit as what you have done to your idol (Golden boy).. and God Bless Philippines & Richard Schaefer.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:30:58 AM
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mekiko:
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thanks for non-biased article.. i mean manny knows where he is.. and he isnt demanding astronomical figures.. he just want the lion share as he is really the man right now..
FACT.. cotto, margarito, bradley, marquez, campbell, casamayor, juan diaz etc...and ricky himself calls out manny..
that says a lot!!! they all want a piece of the pacman.. not because he is so good... but you guess it right..
THE MONEY IS THERE..
who calls out ricky????!!
ok.. junior witter.. this arguement is done
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:32:21 AM
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this fight will decide who is in the better condition on the fight night they are both warrior as they proven it before. hatton is durable at 140 but you cannot disrespect pacquiao moving to three higher different weight division in his last fights so i think it is a good fight worth watching.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:32:29 AM
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charles:
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whoa, pacquiao should be the man! mayweather backed down on antonio margarito years before when he was not yet retired.. But for Manny, he's the one calling out for antonio margarito!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:33:00 AM
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Sodamn Insane:
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Pacman got low balled again but after 3 beers from a guy named Wacky Pacman decided to sign because the extra 3 %
that would make it 55-45 would be irrelevant if Pacman didn't
have the chance to beat up Ricky to a Pulp . I have a feeling Pacman still feels short-changed like he did against ODLH and will take this anger out on Hatton. another great night for boxing
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:35:48 AM
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dalmas:
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Well, that's the disadvantage if you are belong to the 3rd world country like Manny because he didn't get what should he deserve to be paid. If Manny is a American or Mexican, Im pretty sure that the he will get initial guaranted purse of $20M and 70/30 share of PPV in favor with him...
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:41:25 AM
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joey_ed27:
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Pac by ko or ref stopage due to cuts on rnd 10. Both are tough and determined boxers, its just that one has a lot more weapons than the other.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:42:48 AM
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marky mark:
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pacquiao inside 9 rounds, no question about that. After that, pacquiao vs. schaeffer, with manny kneeling down. manny in 1st if that will happen. shame on you richard, dont ever insult manny again coz you are the one childish and very very bad businessman. all your fighters hasnt won over manny. from barrera in 2003 to oscar ( bronze boy), not golden anymore...
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:50:53 AM
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F. Cuyos III:
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Let's not be overconfident, as for Manny ,just prepare well for this Brit as what you have done to your idol (Golden boy).. and God Bless Philippines & Richard Schaefer.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:56:29 AM
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stanley:
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crap it out dude... hatton has a chance.. a chance to kiss the canvas again...
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:57:21 AM
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ganiRENDS:
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Awesome article RON,...what's obvious for all of us to see boxing fan is PACMANS maximum intentions in boxing world and on top of it how he just perfectly handle the business aspect of it. This is it..and this is exactly the things I mention before..that fighting DLH is just another obstacle to show how great PAC is and by maximizing his gift. "PAC is a PURE/ PEDIGREE..ON TOP OF ALL THE KINGS IN BOXING". "EIGHTY YEARS HAD PAST..MATCHING THE GREAT HENRY ARMSTRONG..THE PERSON THAT COULD BEAT PACMAN WAS'NT BORN YET."
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:59:36 AM
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Dick:
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What a nice article Ron-from the U.A.E. ' My salute Ron, keep it up.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:00:11 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG liking it:
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You da MAN, Superfightwriter Ron B! I'm likin' that "Manny brought Ricky to the brink, then made him blink." Now all the hateraires are going to be up in your grill like they are always up in mine. But I got this for them: It doesn't matter about what hateraires pretend. They can come to see Manny lose or win, as long as they are paid butts in those seats. It doesn't matter which, be it ringside, box, close by, nosebleed or eyeballs in front of pay-per-view screens. Do what you do -- hateraires and faderaires -- hate or enjoy! It's your money. And you cannot stop it from burning your pockets to pay to see legal mayhem being conducted by half naked sexist pugilists. Especially by the PacMan. His magnetic pull, you cannot escape. I'm reminded of when I was a kid. All the hateraires were pulled to everything about the GOAT Muhammad Ali. He, they had to hear and see. Nowadays, it is the same with AGOAT Mannnnyyy! Holla!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:04:05 AM
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jurev:
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great match i think pac will prevail again,pacman is a great great fighter next is mayweather after this one.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:09:32 AM
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MCELSEM:
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The winner of this fight should get 60% of the purse and the loser gets 40% instead, so both fighters would even strive harder to win. This will make this match more exciting.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:26:49 AM
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Bobby C:
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Hatton is Pacquiao's first real challenge at a bigger weight. I was one of the few that thought he'd beat vain overtrained Oscar. I don't think Hatton will enter into the mix as confused as Oscar was. I see this as Manny's first real test .
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:28:29 AM
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homer o. puquiz:
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very nice article. may your tribe increase.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:32:27 AM
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bryanzki87:
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Pac deserves more seriously (55-45)! Hatton won't produce 1million PPV in UK if it wasn't for Pacquiao!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:36:16 AM
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cris:
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PACMAN will turn ricky's face into a bloody mest...harharrr...PAC by KO round 5.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:44:10 AM
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Oskee:
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To: ganiRENDS,
You are absolutely wrong boy! Erik Morales did beat Pacman via Unanimous Decision!
Even though he KOed Morales twice but he was clearly beaten in the first encounter by Erik!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:51:57 AM
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blade:
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i've never seen another site as rational as this...
great writer...great on weighing factors that should have been considered in the negotiating table. now, all the fight fans know the
truth.
(wahahaha!!!...obviously pinoy)
pacquiao by 7th round TKO. hatton will not be on post fight conference. he'll be out for precautionary medical check-up on the same hospital where oskie was treated.
and for schaefer...lucky you are not a boxer...otherwise you'd be next in line for "improper treatment".
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:52:14 AM
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Oskee:
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To: ganiRENDS,
You are absolutely wrong boy! Erik Morales did beat Pacman via Unanimous Decision!
Even though he KOed Morales twice but he was clearly beaten in the first encounter by Erik!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:52:17 AM
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zhunde:
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one of the best thing on this bout is that their trainers. Floyd Sr vs Mr Roach. Again, they will meet ways on the this most awaited fight for 2009. I have the Pacman KO Hatton on the 7th. Again...on the 7th Round!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:01:14 AM
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pablo B:
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to be fair hatton is also a very good fighter but only in their place which is england.
everybody in their team is always saying that their boxer brings all the money during the fight by means of their local fans but how about pilipino people well, we all know that not all can go there ony very few but mind you guys that during the fight we also have people wants to see it in pay per view meaning pacquiao also has plenty of pilipino fans buying that pay per view.
as you can see hatton is only at number ten and pacman is number one so how could you make it to be equal in share. the guy who make proposal of 50-50 share is only showing no respect to pacman and also to the entire pilipino people.
lastly , all i can say is that hatton will dive into the canvass in fifth round .
go manny go.
this is your time ... show them all that you are the best fighter in the world...
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:06:08 AM
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Neil Papas:
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I see a David Diaz in Hatton come May 2.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:18:01 AM
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goPacquaio:
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first of im a big pacquaio fan and love boxing. im happy that this fight is going to happend and i will be happy to pay for the ppv...comments by pinoy_majesty - you make a lot of manny's fan seem stupid with your idiotic comments from fighting pavlik or anyone up to 170. please keep your stupid comments to urself. Lets go take out Hatton then Mayweather. GL Manny!!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:23:32 AM
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Alfred Zarate:
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Bravo Pacman! You're not only the best in the ring but you are a great boxer with lots of brain! We will support you all the way.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:33:39 AM
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ganiRENDS:
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This fight with HATTON is just a kind of keeping PAC active early this year. PACS next big fight would be the end of this year after winning RICKY easily in 6th. It's either MARG or FLOYD at the end of 2009, much bigger bucks on the way baby!!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:37:38 AM
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Ottog Hahn Matalam:
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Hi! Ron Borges,
This comedic article is great. The common blink only takes around milli or microsecond per cycle but for Oscar and past opponents,it probably took them weeks until their bruised and swollen eyes are completely healed.
Although yours and my prediction regarding Oscar vs. Pacman were not the same, I'm sure this time will be the same - that Hatton then Mayweather or Margarito will BLINK then WINK Willy Wonka.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:41:54 AM
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joel:
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schaeffer almost screwed the fight. He should respect pacquiao and what he brings in the tble. Hatton brigs good money when he fights only the big names out there.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:51:34 AM
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pdayosrn:
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Hatton was KO by Mayweather who won a split decision to De la Hoya who was tsunamized by a tiny wave Pacquiao. Pacquiao by a brutal TKO in 10, worse than De la Hoya.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:01:07 AM
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PEEWEE:
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This is good for boxing fans all over the world.Everybody won this fight already,Pacquiao fight for his pride as the no.1 p4p in the world and Hatton fight for his retirement pay because he know he will lost to manny and his value will go down and for the promoter its a big publicity. But the over all winner is, we the boxing fans.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:20:27 AM
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notsonicefor52-48:
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it's not about the money, for pacman, i believe it's about respect. not becoz Pacman is from a 3rd world country. not becoz hatton is british. HATTON is not equals to PACMAN so defintely theres no 50/50. Pac was very humble to accept the 52-48. Pacman deserves more than Hatton.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:31:57 AM
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I can't believe pacquiao, a few days ago he said he wont back down if its not 60/40 in his favor then hatton gave him a 52 % cut and he takes it.what happened to that respect he was asking for. the asked for a pie and they gave him crumbs and he says yes?
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:43:25 AM
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boxinggod:
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After Manny destroy Hatton all the pacman haters will do there homework again and that is "more excuses" did you watch the manny-diaz fight? that will happen to hatton to^^
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:47:38 AM
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Rhiener:
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Job well done Ron..
You did a good article and Manny pacquioao for sure will not disappoint all boxing fans worldwide... keep it up man..
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:50:49 AM
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OtotMo:
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The money-men blinked coz they knew they brought a loaded dice to the table. Fairness just won. Great fight.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:59:10 AM
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aquil:
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Manny Paquiao is a phenomenal athlete. Except Marquez, the Pacman, once inside the ring with whoever his opponent is, is making them an ordinary fighter to include the Golden Boy. I'ts a miracle if Hatton can last 5 rounds!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 04:09:27 AM
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BONG L.:
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No doubt, Pacman will knock out Hatton and Schaefer!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 04:39:11 AM
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joel:
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THE MONOPOLY OF BOXING
By: Joel Simbajon
Richard Schaefer will you please tell your friend De la Hoya stopped doing promotions when he fights inside the ring.What an ugly business!He make a bad image of boxing industry.When he fight Manny Pacquiao he is the one who demanded how much share he will received.He is the promoter he is the fighter.Unethical,Bias,The boxing associations must have a hammer to stop this kind of business,that a fighter cannot promote his own fight!And now Manny will fight Hatton, Richard-De la Hoya are still the one who demanded the 50-50 split.If you are on Manny’s side is it good for you that you will be given a 50-50/?,. Richard Schaefer you talk too much about Manny for not accepting your demand,How hell are you!You downgrade Manny’s achievements.Manny needs respect not your money.Dont make Manny play in the top of your palm.You are crazy!greedy.De la Hoya please stop dreaming to fight in the future.Are you not a shame of your fight with Manny?Are you a blind boxer who cannot see the continuing punches that keep slapping on your face?You cannot pull the trigger anymore.To all the boxing associations (WBC,IBF,WBA,WBO,etc.) must have regulation and laws pertaining the purse of the fighter.Thanks!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 04:47:58 AM
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benjie sabandal:
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margarito would end his(manny)carrer brutally if that happens like what he did cotto...manny doesnt know his limitation...
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:10:55 AM
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dbmjr_kuwait:
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Pacman will destroy the Hitman in 8th round.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:18:23 AM
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Tyrone:
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Excellent read. I also believe that Pacquiao should get the bigger share of the PPV sales because he is the top draw of boxing now. Especially after the de la Hoya fight, I am sure more casual boxing fans are willing to pay to see this guy fight again. Hard core boxing fans already know who he is and knows every time he fights it is guaranteed to be action packed. As for this fight, I cannot see how Hatton can last long against Manny. I think Hatton will have difficulty with in and out movements of Pacquiao and the lighting quick left hand will land all night. Pacquiao TKO by the 7th round.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:18:46 AM
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dbmjr_kuwait:
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Pacman will destroy the Hitman in 8th round.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:18:57 AM
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william:
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Pacman be careful, the hitman will hit you dirty, the blow blow,the elbow, Pacman by KO 10 rnd
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:28:34 AM
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leevancliff:
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Give Hatton a chance to show his greatness, I think that man
is polite, because I did not even know that Hatton himself giving
a negative comments to Manny...Instead he recognize Manny as
a good opponent to him according to the interview of Dian Castellejo in courtesy of ABS CBN Sports news reporter in the Philippines, Only Scaeffer gave a negative comment to Manny and The Pacmanites gave the negative comment to Hatton.
I'm for Pacman, see you on May2
Proverbs 18:21
death and Life are in the power of the tongue and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:00:57 AM
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PACMAN will win this fight...look at all the angles..the facts....all boxing experts new this and will not deny the advantage of the #1 pound for pound KING has...his SPEED and now the unveiled FOOTWORK...he does on dela hoya? wow! NO one will win over PACMAN right at this point....unless a LUCKY PUNCH does the JOB....oh wow.......all have been said here ;-)
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:02:58 AM
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hatton is the "perfect" style for pacquiao..he's gonna get crushed!! hatton will make enough money and retire after a dreadful beating!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:06:08 AM
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Edgar A. de Dios:
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This is a very nice article, Ron; a very factual one. Pacquiao deserves what he's been asking for; he is definitely the main draw here. He has gained his way to the top the hard way. Hatton has to earn his ticket the same way to be deserving of the high share of the prize. It's not because you are from a rich country, you already deserve the same prize as the main draw. Again, thanks for this nice piece.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:06:45 AM
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tony1946:
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I am glad that Manny Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton will eventually fight in the ring come May 2, 2009.
Congrats to Promoter Bob Arum and Trainer of the Year 2008 Freddie Roach, for the job well-done. And to Manny Pacquiao... MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:14:43 AM
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Alex C:
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No doubt Manny Pacman will destroy Ricky Hatton!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:19:09 AM
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juanito paduga:
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hi hello manny im one of your fans, from kidapawan city, presently residing at imus cavite. go pacman go and fight..........
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:20:27 AM
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JAS_JAS:
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one thing is for sure, i hate being ricky hatton on may 2, you dont want to be in the opposite corner of a pissed off manny pacquiao ^^
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:20:38 AM
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Mr. Borges, I think the one who blinked was (And it still is) YOU. Questions: Who were the ones who put the 52-48 split purse? Was it Pacquiao or was HATTON? And who was the one who at the end had to accept? Was it PACQUIAO or was it Hatton? Talking about blinking, who was the one who DISAPPEARED, and did NOT returned phone calls even from his own people? Was it PACQUIAO, or was it Hatton? If you think Pacquiao made them "blink", then they made HIM disappear and I don't think 52-48 is closer to 60-40, than 50-50. Team Hatton put the split and it was Pacquiao who made the quick change of heart and had to accept, as simple as that. This article proves nothing, and as you tried to make Pacquiao look like the smart fighter who was in control (Which since day one he NEVER had) and Hatton the one who didn't have "no other big fight and they all knew it.", the facts are different. And again, and again you keep mentioning the Mayweather Jr fight; I already explained hundreds of times success and draws (As in bringing more people) are not the same thing. Also Manny Pacquiao is not Mayweather Jr and another VERY important thing that you and the Pacfans are missing, this is not 147lbs. This is 140, and is where Hatton is nearly invincible at this stage. No matter how the negotiations would have gone, they could have gone 100-0 for Hatton, still, you would have defended Pacquiao as the "winner"; the "He’ll make the other guy blink…all night long." sentence says it all LOL!!!!!! "Pacquiao Wins Round One Against Hatton", yeah right, you're just like Harold Letterman, many times giving rounds to the wrong guy HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HATTON wins round one. (And I wouldn't be surprise AT ALL the May fight ends in a HUGE W for Ricky Hatton)
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:23:26 AM
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isidro:
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The sweetscience is a sweet business too.If you just keep on fighting and feeling being great all the way it's an hallucination brought by sweettalks and sweet promises.The Pacuiao-Hatton fight is now rid of it and it will be a great fight because correct amount of sweetener is measured and mixed.I want to join the predictors....excellent boxing match , wow and eww..manny by tko 5th round.It's either throw-in the white towel,a repeat of a stool decision.Thanks..
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:25:03 AM
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tolits:
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Thats a good article Ron, youre fair and square. You based it on facts. Pacman deserve respect from the Golden camp negotiator.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:41:12 AM
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tolits:
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Thats a good article Ron, youre fair and square. You based it on facts. Pacman deserve respect from the Golden Boy camp negotiator.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:43:59 AM
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Hehehehehe, if (And I write IF cuz, unlike the majority of the ASTROLOGISTS here I can't see the future) Hatton wins I wonder which of them would stay here. The inmsense majority of the Pacquiao supporters here are "mouthing" off because their fighter's on top. SO EASY to do. I wouldn't be to keen on Pacquiao defeating Hatton especially at 140lbs. Like the "Joke Coach" Roach said: Hatton CAN (and will) pull the trigger.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:49:35 AM
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You got a nice article here,Mr.Borges.I likewise agree that Pacquiao made Scheafer and the Hatton camp blinked.Kind of reminiscing the missile crises in the 60's over Cuba.Somebody blinked.Not Pacquiao!!.I don't think so.For if the Hatton side really was serious of pulling the plug,they could have done it like shooting with a straight arrow.But they needed Pacquiao,so they left the door partly open.Bingo!! Blink time!!
The British fans from the Hatton website predict that Pacquiao won't last and gets kayoed by their warrior.
But let me have my prediction:This fight might get stopped by the referee in the middle rounds because Hatton's face will be masked with blood ,eyes get cut and puffy.This boxer bleeds easily.I always see him with a terrible blackeye after every fight.His facial skin tissue is suspect.And with Pacquiao's fists hitting his face with regularity?Something gonna give way.Exhibit 1:De La Hoya's face( a
macabre proof of Pacquiao's power).
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 07:02:11 AM
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nhojrem:
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salt lover:men..you sound really upset..get over it..
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 07:08:59 AM
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docboy:
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Da Pacman has arrived but he hasn´t reached the star status of ODLH yet until he beats Hatton, then watch out Schaefer, Arum and co.! A 2% advantage on the deal is not much but at least Packy himself made that happen and not his promoter Arum who is supposed to be a shrewed Harvardian. His 50-50 deal offer smelled fishy and showed a clear sign of discrimination against people from the so-called "3rd world" with a "different" culture. Manny is clearly his golden goose for now but why did he try to underprice him?
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 07:15:27 AM
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WILSON:
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The Margarito camp will also ask for a 50-50 share with Pacquiao.The Pacman will agree to this if Margarito wins the fight. If the Pacman wins, his proposition should be imposed which should be 70-30 in his favor. In short whoever wins, it's his demand that should be followed. Disregard the proposition of the promoter, Bob Arum, he's not fair to Pacquiao.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 07:35:07 AM
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Neophyte:
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I got a good understanding of what transpired during the negotiations, thanks Ron. And i agree with your insights and comments... xx...I hope Manny will not fyt Floyd if only to teach that narcissist a lesson...a dose of his own medicine, so to speak ! He's got money problem now with IRS he's salivating to make a huge fyt with Manny....an easy fyt in his mind. But then i trully wish that there will ba a fyt between them so Manny can prove whatever there is prove.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 07:53:03 AM
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Manager of the year? If so, being considered the #1 p4p should not have settled for 62-38 against an aged ODLH who had been losing most of his last fights. Manny was the current sensation but got shorted by Oscar.
Bear in mind, Oscar thought Manny would be an easy prey and he badly wanted to avenge for his Mexican compatriots and erase the stigma out of Mexican boxers. Therefore, a mission existed in Oscar's mind to go all the way to grab back the spot light, embarrass his usurper and finally retire. That hunger of ODLH was overlooked by Manny and his team. 50-50 was there for the taking.
And now, fully establishing his p4p stature against a p1p Hatton, and yet not getting the real lion's share? That seem to sound ridiculous. A lion's share is not 52 but 60 or 70. I give the credit to Hatton and his team the Manager's Award for 2009. Manny had the chance to stand tall again, and again he bent to the arrogance of the other side.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:00:27 AM
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sea water:
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@ salt lover: another pacquiao hater! Laugh now, remember "He who laugh last, Laugh the best."
will you still be around in this site when hatton kiss the canvass come the 2nd of May?
may pa mu kirig ka! nyahahahaha
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:00:50 AM
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donputo69 heading to Boston Mass.:
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Hatton will destroy pacman...85% are rooting for pacman...I wanna see the 85% of you's here after the fight...don't sleep on hatton...he's still the champ...and he's undefeated at 140....manny's Cinderella story will come to an end...holla back!!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:12:18 AM
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Marck:
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This write up is truly marvelous and well said. Manny by KO at 1:11 mins of the 11th round. He'll get 11 Million for this big fight with Ricky Hatton. Spell "Ricky Hatton" and how many letters you can get? 11 is the number to watch out! Could be more than 11 Million? WOW! That's a lot of Manny, opss money...hehehe. Just kiddin folks. Cheers for this mega buck fight!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:16:32 AM
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boston sucks:
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@ donputo69 : Cinderella stories always have a HAPPY ending... looks like it's you who's having a nightmare , nyahahahaha
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:21:47 AM
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ferdi c:
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we all get our moneys worth if the fight past the 5th round. it will not. ko or stoppage by the ref. pacquiao will do it again.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:36:19 AM
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Salt lover:
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sea water, I've been here in this site before Pacquiao was on top, in other words before you ever existed in this page. I lost the De la Hoya prediction and I accepted it, and I'm still here. So the answer is YES. I'll be here after the fight. But I DOUBT you and all the Pacfans, that like a work of magic suddenly appear after the De la Hoya fight, would be here in case Hatton wins.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:46:11 AM
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bruce lee:
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THANKS YOU FOR THIS GREAT ARTICLE RON, IF MANNY DESTROY HATTON NEXT WILL BE MAY WEATHER, AND IF HE BET THIS COCKY GUY HE SHOULD GO FOR MAGARITO AND IF HE WIN HE SHOULD BE THE ALL TME BEST P4P FIGHTER
IN THE PLANET.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:56:27 AM
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sea water:
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@ salt lover : I'm sure that your heart bled when dela hoya quit last December 6, you might have felt that you've been hit by a lightning. did you ever hear that lightning never strikes the same place? well, on the 2nd of May you'll experience it.
as long as sweet science writes something about PACMAN, we will be here. that's why we are called PACFANS, just in case you forget , nyahahahaha
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:09:39 AM
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OBAMA:
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HATTON BY KO 1st ROUND
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:10:03 AM
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paintedboots:
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HITMAN vs PACMAN...all i can say is...I'M PROUD TO BE A FILIPINO 3X ,ANYTIME,ANYPLACE,ANYWHERE!!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:19:31 AM
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ILDildo:
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One more game to win and Pacman will undoubtedly surpass Henry Armstrong achievement. We are lucky to see this in our lifetime.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:22:24 AM
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yayie_08:
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go manny! i know u can do it! 6 rounds is enough for hatton to kiss the canvass, then margarito no mayweather-weather!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:26:08 AM
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emmanuel:
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Promoters are very lucky that we have manny pacquiao in our times thats why he deserved respect becuaseThe excitement and entertainment he bring to all boxing fans in the word or else boxing sport will be no more attractive....
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:37:51 AM
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Salt lover's mom:
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To my dear child Salt lover. How many times have you predicted that Pac would lose a fight and then proved wrong by Pac? Admit it my child, you are just not good at this. You are a loner now and you'll forever be a loner. You are in this site to just annoy the millions of pacfans around the globe.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 09:57:35 AM
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Prince Charming:
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Manny Pacquiao,the pound for pound King.....never predicts who will win before he fight his opponent.And also he never understimate his oppnent. He humble himself & surrender to our Lord Almighty everytime he fights.I do believe that the best man will win.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:04:54 AM
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mang godo:
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Manny is smart. He is now a ring tactician,from Diaz, to de la hoya .
As they say, Manny grew up in the street. That's why he is street smart.
Well, Manny do not need degree from Harvard to outsmart anybody.
From street to ring to business deal, Manny is now a business smart.
Who would like to have degree in this time of crisis.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:10:48 AM
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WOODDDDDDDYA:
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Funny how Ricky pulls out of the deal & 24 hours later Manny signs...and you think Pacquiao wins round one?
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:25:25 AM
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jerr:
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this is good figth pacman & hatton my prediction is 3 round KO.££££££££££££££££££££
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:28:31 AM
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Big Daddy's Dealin' with NutHuggers:
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There is NO WAY that Hatton was the one that blinked. I doubt if it's even 52/48... and if it is SO WHAT!? That's flexing you're muscles? That's pathetic ! Mr. Borges needs his opinion to be based on reality, not idoltry.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:37:14 AM
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kastillaloy:
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i will be in vegas come may 2,for sure cheering for pacman.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:52:20 AM
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Ron:
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Im a fan of pac but come on, this article is ridiculous, and seem to be written with a child like mentality. Kind of like "haha Im better than you."
I followed th story as best as I could, and the fact remained, he was offered 50-50, Pac wanted 60-40. Hatton blinked 52-48. Pac countered 55-45. Pac blinked 52-48 with a higher guarantee. So using Ron Borges words, both Pacman and the Hitman blinked. This is best described as a draw at best.
Like I said, I love pac. I also like Hatton, whom I rooted for during his fight against Mayweather. I definitely don't like Mayweather because of he looks down and be littles other fighters. I like the humble fighters because thats how I was taught to be. All boxing matches, there needs to be 3 fair and unbiased judges to score the fight and this article is extremely one sided.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 10:57:03 AM
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Box me out!:
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Excellent writing! That's all I can say about this.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 11:11:40 AM
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Praning:
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Hatton will be the underdog by more than 2 to 1... Another potential moneymaking venture for the schemers in this so called fight.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 11:14:10 AM
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PACSPEQUI:
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To Salt lover... man you will never learn... your words are always the same when ever Pacquiao has a fight...you always criticize Pacquiao. And I understand that you don't like the article of Mr. Borges because you are not a Businessman... and I know you don't understand any of these... anyway what could we expect from you... even boxing you know nothing. What a loser your are! You know what? Their is something wrong with your brain man. And to donputo69... I think the two of you have never been found by the mental hospital where you suppose to belong.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 11:25:51 AM
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Pacmaniaccc:
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Pacman will take his percentage from Hatton's face. There will be Blood.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 11:28:49 AM
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atong:
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ricky hatton has chance to win by just single lucky punch. mark my word richard schaefer will burst into tears after may 2 and he can not control his anger to pacman. richard schaefer will bring gun in MGM and shoot pacman. hehehehehe........He gonna lost again another bankable asset and turn into rotten ass and next golden boy promotion will change the name to " Black and Blue Olden Boy Promotion" next schafer will file bankcruptcy..hehehehehehehe..........
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:30:55 PM
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McLeoj:
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Coach Freddie Roach acted like Prophet to Manny fight when he said before David Diaz fight that the bout will end in TKO at 9 and it had happened. Same thing on the fight with Oscar DLH, Freddie had predicted the figth would end in 9th and whoalla! - Oscar can't take the punches of the PACMAN and only surrendered prior to that round!
Now looking back to what coach Freddie had said before - Line them up! Manny will beat them One by one! All mexican greats, including Black and White in boxing face even Richard! Hahaha pastilan ning tawhana! PAGKAKURATA!
More power and God bless Manny and the Philippines! Mabuhay!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:33:46 PM
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McLeoj:
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Against Ricky Hatton blood will flow and he will say on that night "NO MAS!"
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:35:28 PM
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AA:
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Im sorry to break it to you mr. Pinoy Majesty or whatever your called, but NO pacquiao does'nt stand a chance against margarito, he too scared because he knows what will happen if he steps in there with the tijuana tornado, the same or even a whole lot worse then what happened to cotto. And if your going to comment anything refering to the great Antonio Margarito, do some research on anything having to do with the subject of him fighting pacquiao, Because mr. Pacman THINKS he wants to fight margarito at 143 rather than 147, Why? Ha its obvious because he knows margarito will not give 143. But if he thinks hes so great and th best fighter p4p then he should step up to 147.But i know he wont because he doesnt want what hes asking for.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 12:52:35 PM
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bill major:
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this fight is a laugh,hatton dosent have a snowballs chance in hell.how any boxing expert could think otherwise is obserd .styles make the fight ,its a simple as that .hattons is so perfect for manny that you have to wonder what the hell thet all were thinking at golden boy besides money?
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:31:31 PM
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salt lover:
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I confess I made some mistakes, but come on, guys, give me a break, I'm just trying to put my thoughts down. You guys should be more accepting of everyone's opinion. I have a right to speak my mind as much as anyone.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:51:12 PM
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pacman first:
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salt lover, you are a cry baby. pacman will make your hatton cry too. you have no pride talking like a girl. sorry we hurt your feelings. but pacquiao is for real and will hurt hatton and hurt him bad.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 01:53:28 PM
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andy from newcastle:
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Where do all these people come from? How come, as Don says, 85% of you never appear on articles that do not mention Pacman? Far too many fan boys here, even your nom de plumes are Pac this or Pac that, it's like PBF all over again. Sea Water even admits it. Pacman will be lucky if he can walk to the ring with all these tongues up his jacksie. And Pacspequi, Salty and Don have probably forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know. Of course you could prove me wrong and write comments on some of the other non Hatton Pacman articles that will appear on this site over the next few weeks, like the other 15% of real boxing fans(and that includes Radam and a few others here as well). That goes for the rest of you as well. Toonoy
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:00:01 PM
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donputo69 chillin in Boston:
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Thank you andy from newcastle...AMEN....you couldn't had say it better...hey Salt and Radam?....cut the nonsense...let's all get along...well....the real TSS readers...for the non TSS readers...go $uck a monkeys nipple...holla back!!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:15:17 PM
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My take on this is that all this argument about "who blink" or "who blinkf first" is now irrelevant. This topic will be forgotten come fight time or even when serious training gets underway for both fighters. Those who are familiar with the art of business negotiation, it is a 2-way street. From the start both parties may seem far apart but have the parties come face to face across a table (or in this case , burning the electronic wires with the help of present technology), with a little tweaking and give-and-take here and there, before you know it, an agreement can be reached. It is a well-known fact that negotiation is an art of compromise, that both sides would not be perfectly happy with the finall outcome but it would be most of the time fair and workable. Have you followed up the negotiation between the US and the Irag government on how to address the American withdrawal, especially on the subject of jurisdiction over military personnel committing crimes while in Irag? That subject initially was a complete stalemate for a long time but the parties finally came up with an agreement that's palatable to both government.
My other take on this is that Pacman himself, who has always promised to give a good fight for his countrymen and boxing afficionados everywhere, was also under tremendous pressure to proceed with this fight. All he wanted was a show of respect that he is the bigger draw and not just accept whatever is handed to him by the whiteman. When the Hatton side agreed to budge from the 50-50 ("any upward movement" as his attorney described it), he felt that, that was addressed so he accepted. The amount of the money per se was not the determining factor as I think he would even accept a lower amount with another fighter as long there is recognition that he is higher on the totem pole of the boxing hierachy.
So that the way it is folks, fellow boxing fans. Looking forward to a good fight!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:27:03 PM
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Superfightwriter Ron B is a fightwriting-like Muhammad Ali. Now these hateraires, faderaires, fakeraires, busteraires and fibberaires hate him. Is this because he "float like a butterfly and sting like a bee?" And yo' brains cannot comprehend REALITEEE! The new guard -- Richard Schaefer -- of "Manifest Destiny" 45 didn't work, just as Golden Boy's 45 didn't work in the squared jungle. Maybe somebody need to come up with a new version of that (in)famous pistol. The alley cat trainer Nacho "Chip" Beristein's psychology for saying it didn't work. And Schaefer calling Manny "a young kid who know how to behave" psychology haven't work. Now wacko are angry at Superfightwriter Ron B for writing what these latent bigots cannot control. Ricky Hatton is going to get punished. Holla!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:46:29 PM
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This fight could be very violently dangerous for HATTON..if he won't use his head (smartness) that no matter what he is of no match to PACMAN. My personal prediction is that, within 6th Hatton absorbs a lot of damage to his face for the very first time in his entire career..especially 3rd, 4th, and 5th he's suppose to go down..but if he insist to have 6th then that would be either stoppage or knockout..period. PAC on the other hand will still have minimal marks in his face or nothing at all (either in his face or body shots), thus preparing himself for a much bigger MEGA fight at the end of the year.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 02:46:52 PM
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The Hitman will get hit. Pacman will target a single spot (left eye) & Hatton will be badly cut and then Pacman will go to work on Hatton's body. Hatton will succomb to the murderous body blows and will go down. That was the fight plan for ODLH, the same plan will work better on Hatton because he will not quit, he will take the beating. Hatton will get the worst beating of his life.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 03:21:50 PM
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OK EVERYONE (especially you pacman first) the clown who wrote: "I confess I made some mistakes, but come on, guys, give me a break, I'm just trying to put my thoughts down. You guys should be more accepting of everyone's opinion. I have a right to speak my mind as much as anyone. " I ask whoever wrote that stupid cr@p to please show some MANHOOD and write on your own name. This clearly shows my writings are getting to you and you're desperately trying to find a way to get back at me, but since you can't do it the conventional way in boxing discussion, now you're CHILDISH methosds are your only tools. Pacman first, I wasn't the one writing that BS. I could care LESS of what you people think of my writings. And also about my mom (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) That was some funy stuff. Keep your circus you CLONE CLOWN.........I think I know pretty well who you are Mr. "Holla" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 04:57:05 PM
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The REAL Salt lover:
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sea water, for your info I criticized the De la Hoya-Pacquiao fight and didn't payed for that thing. I went and checked the winner and no. I didn't felt NOTHING. And the reason of why you PACFANS are here is NOT because they're writing about him. Is because he hasn't LOST. The majority of you, who're predicting Paquiao will "defeat" Hatton, I can bet safely, most wouldn't be here. Like I wrote before, when your man is on top si SO EASY to bark BS. If Hatton defeats Pacquiao, I can bet the majority of the Asian names and nicknames having PAC, are going to EXTINCT real good. At least for me, if Hatton loses I'll be here, cuz I've never left. Even when I lose.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:03:33 PM
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The REAL Salt lover:
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PACSPEQUI, I have my opinion and I have my right to comment. Yes, I'm not a business man, but I can bet Ron Borges (And even YOU) is not a business man either. He has his right to his opinion, just like I'm entitled to mine, since I pay for these fights. If you believe I don't know any boxing, then I respect your opinion. And youre WRONG when you write I "always" criticize Pacquiao. I've mentioning and REMEMBERING EVERYBODY A THOUSAND TIMES I gave Pacquiao his props and congratulated him on defeating De la Hoya and his Fighter of the Year award. Majority of Pinoys and Pacfans are so FULL SELF-COMPLAINTS they miss that always. Whatever you think of me (And donputo69 too, since now you mention him JUST cuz he's predicting Hatton win, which he's also entitled to like everybody else) then fine. Keep thinking that way. Good luck.......by the way, your criticism about my brain sounds SOOOOOOOO familiar Hehehehe. Maybe, maybe not.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:13:06 PM
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This is what I have been saying along...Manny is a good fighter but with all the ignorance from his fellow people here you really start to root against the guy. No other race of people talked liked this about a figher until Manny started winning and all of a sudden most filipinos started acting like they are the greatest fighters that ever lived. I bet no filipino on here has ever laced on a pair of gloves. Whether you are white, black, mexican, puerto rican, columbian, armenian, etc. If the fighter is great it's okay to worship your guy but don't be IGNORANT about it. Vic Darchinyan is as bad as they come but I don't hear the Armenian's saying that he's the 3rd greatest person in the world. It's disgusting and sick. Like Saltlover said the word HUMBLE must mean something different in the philippines. When Manny loses all of you will go running up under the refrigerator like roaches
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 05:30:57 PM
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dundee duque:
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Ron , thanks to your equal and fair article ... It is so obvious that the Pacman really deserves a bigger pie for this Hatton - Pacquiao fight . It is only Schaefer , the bad businessman who always block & ignore what really is supposed to be for Pacquiao . He might be hiding this personal agendas since the Pacman did not sign for him about 2 years ago . Anyway ,whatever hardship this bad businessman is doing ... I'm glad, the fight is still on . This will be a very exciting fight .... Congratulation to Pacquiao ... althought 60-40 did not materialized 52-48 is still okay .... It means , you still got the edge . ... Good Luck & show them that you're one of the best , regardless of your race & color .........
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:01:22 PM
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Mr. Kidoy:
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to Salt Lover.............PAGHILOM! SAGPAON TIKAW OG TIIL ron. trans.=money pakyaw
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:12:14 PM
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Mary Barbucescu:
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Just because Manny beat Oscar that means he beats Hatton. Oscar is old and past his prime and never dominated a fighter of so called equal stature. Sure Manny is good so is Hatton. Plus Hatton beat Tszyu when no one gave him a chance. Hatton is equal to Manny size wise. Skillwise both are equal. I like Hatton to beat Manny probably by stoppage. Believe it or not Hatton is still the harder puncher in this one. Fighting Hatton will be a whole different scenario for Manny. This time most everyone will be predicting Manny to beat Hatton. That will be Hatton's motivation to beat Manny.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 06:55:26 PM
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theboyb901:
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Hatton will win the fight some way or another. He's never been beaten at 140lbs. And no one spoke so highly of Pac until he beat a drained De La Hoya.
Saturday Jan 24, 2009 08:29:57 PM
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Ronald Antipala:
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Now the whole world will see Ricky Hatton May 2 on Live PPV and too teach all great boxer in Europe how too sleep to CANVAS very well! and don't for get Hatton will bring PILLOW into the RING!
Ronald (Filipino)
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 12:17:07 AM
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july:
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i see pacquiao knocking out hatton in eighth round. pacquiao's speed, power, skills, ring generalship and explosiveness cannot be matched by hatton. after defeating hatton, pacquiao should fight mosley, not margarito, because mosley KOed margarito already. this will be a very explosive fight but i feel pacquiao's speed and power will put mosley on the canvass for the first time in his career.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 01:07:57 AM
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Erik:
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Remember that the business of boxing is about money, not about who beat who or who "deserves" it more. Hatton's 50/50 was not unreasonable. I've heard it both ways. All the Pacquiao fans claim he's way more profitable. All the unbiased writers say Hatton brings in more money. Remember, neither fighter is really that profitable on their own. I don't care how famous Pacquiao is among boxing fans, "the world" isn't waiting to see him and he's not a household name except in the Philippines and among Filipinos. De La Hoya remains way more profitable, in and of himself, than Pacquiao in and of himself. Look at Pacquiao's ppv numbers against Marquez--they weren't that good. Granted, neither are Hatton's in many of his fights, but given that in a big fight, Hatton can bring in a possibly more lucrative fan base than Pacquiao or at least the same, 50/50 was not unreasonable. The fact that he lost by TKO to Mayweather doesn't mean much in and of itself--De La Hoya lost many relevant major fights AND got knocked out by Hopkins (of course nobody likes to mention that because it would make Pacquiao's victory over him seem less glorious) AND lost to Mayweather, yet he still remained hugely profitable for the Pacquiao fight. Be sure that when he fights again, he will once again bring in a ton of money. Wins/losses don't necessarily mean anything in the business of boxing.
In terms of Pacquiao being a brilliant negotiator, I wouldn't give him much credit. The final deal he signed wasn't any better than the deal he failed to sign by the original deadline, so his supposed bluff didn't accomplish anything that wasn't already accomplished. A multi-millionaire nickel and diming his promoters and the other side into a lousy 2 extra percentage points (which Hatton had agreed to anyway) at the risk of losing his goodwill or seeming unreasonable to the boxing public (he apparently wouldn't even return the calls of Roach, who he has repeatedly said is like a father figure to him) is not necessarily a reflection of good negotiation tactics--it could simply be indecision or failed bluffing.
p.s. some of the cultural "pride" in these comments is actually pretty arrogant and borderline racist. Have fun living your life through someone else instead of actually achieving things for yourself.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 02:34:21 AM
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joey0829:
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Manny should be paid much more.. How cannot Arum see this at all?? Yes boxing fans want to see a Pacquiao vs Hatton.. yes.. because they want to test manny's capability.. Hatton is a tough fighter.. but Manny draws more PPV.. if Manny wins.. people will want a Pacquiao vs Pretty Boy.. it is the general story.. Hatton was knocked out by Mayweather.. come on... if and when Pacquiao beats Hatton, the Pacquaio_Mayweather will be a fight of the deacde.. they will ressurect boxing popularity...
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 04:19:52 AM
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kapor:
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Since almost all of you talks about who's the one who blink, why not give pacquiao-hatton match a title, "THOU SHALT NOT BLINK".
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 06:00:12 AM
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sea water still:
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@The REAL Salt lover : for your info, the REAL pacfans will be there for pacquiao no matter what is the outcome of the fight. Just in case, let's say in your wet dreams, I mean in your dreams( sorry for the typo error) that pacquiao lose the fight. REAL pacfans will still be here as long as TSS writes something about pacman. now those who will not be around are just wannabes. comprende?
@ andy from newcastle: that's why we are called PACFANS . We are here because there's a write up about pacman. We only care about PACMAN, i hope you comprehend... bobo!
@ donputo69 : Do you know why TSS writes something about pacman? because TSS wants to be like BC (boxing confidential) . For your information PACFANS increase the number of hits. and besides if it's not for us, this site will be boring... nyahahahaha
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 06:11:04 AM
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jologs:
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Great article Ron! Pacquaio's been labeled egocentric and swell headed but hardly considered a shrewd businessman. The former baker's helper is now showing up the ivy league promoters in pre-fight negotiations.
Going by his gut feel and streetwise instincts, he has evolved into a good businessman, an elite fighter and a multi-millionaire. As a boxing fans, let's just enjoy the ride.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 07:47:52 AM
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steve:
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Wow. ....sounds kike Borgsy is performing promotional duties for Pacman. Borgsy didnt even back MP against DLH. As soon as the Hatton camp knew the pinoy thought he was the new DLH, they offered him 4 more % and Arum saved the pinoy from crying with a further undisclosed sum. End of story until Hatton flogs Manny Pac-weee-Ho. Boys.. if Marquez ca climb off the floor 3 times and still get a draw with the Pinoy Packman, then what will Hatton do to him?
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 08:22:57 AM
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anlo777:
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bla bla.i know hey all you guys havent step in the ring and you dont know how hurt to receive one blow. You made prediction that seems u know boxing, ur eliot
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 11:37:29 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG -- "poseraires are rich in posturing and posing:
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Bigots are good at reversing stuff and defining the whole world to what they look at in their personal locale and arm space. Manny is the most known boxer in the world, period! Just ask 95 percent of the world travelers and jet set crowd and a 100 percent of those really in the hurt bitnezz. They all know and come to Manny's fights. But -- except for the boxing bitnezz crew -- they couldn't tell you the name of the last person he fought, or name five title belt holders. The Pope knows Manny, but not one of the title belt holders and all of these dude are in Europe next door to the Pope. U.S. Prez O could tell you who PacMan is, but didn't know of David Diaz until Diaz was kayoed by the Pac. Cave-dwelling Osama bin Laden know Manny, but couldn't tell you the name of the Prez of the Philippines, as most of the phonies in this universe can't tell you. These cyberspace clowns are amazing. They need to get off those keyboards and come to the real world every now and then. Holla!
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 03:53:02 PM
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Ogiereb:
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To all manny doubters. Dont hate it if we appreciate our countrymans' achievements in boxing. I understand Ricky is also a great fighter and have beaten great fighters also. If manny loses to Ricky we will accept defeat with open arms and still post our comments. It just so happens we haven't been given a chance to prove it coz manny keeps winning! ^_^
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 05:28:54 PM
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Gerald:
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Manny we are proud of you, you have all the gots in the ring,just don not give trust or understimate that you can beat him and always pray to god as we are doing when you are in the ring. We love you!
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 06:40:17 PM
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Gerald:
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Manny we are proud of you, you have all the gots in the ring,just do not give trust or understimate that you can beat him and always pray to god as we are doing when you are in the ring. We love you!
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 06:41:16 PM
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roy:
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richard shaefer......tsk tsk tsk!! you can bargain all you want and twist the story all you want. but come may 2, it's just fatton and manny inside the ring. you will realize why he asked for the 60-40 scheme!
nice article ron.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 07:44:46 PM
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The REAL Salt lover:
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No, no, no Ogiereb. I for my part don't hate Pacquiao. He's a great fighter and definitely one of today's greats. The problem that I've mentioned was the majority of you guys who are barking and it's all cuz he's on top. If he wasn't 90% of almost all of you wouldn't never even write in here. Pacquiao's giving glory to your country? Great! (NOT writing it sarcastically; writing this from the heart), but don't be now dissing other fighters and even predicting how his career will end up. Nobody here can see the future, let's leave that to the astrologists.
Sunday Jan 25, 2009 09:40:07 PM
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arbee:
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Pacquiao Wins Round One Against Hatton.
What a good way to start. When Floyd gave hatton that LEFT SLAP-like punch coz he was just so tired to finish the 10th and sir hatton just fell gawking in twilight zone, he was so surprised that that's all it needed to bring Hatton down. Not even a power punch compadre. Freddie knows how to exploit this 10th rd. scene. I am not talking about the future here.I am talking about hatton's JAW. Floyd showed it to the whole world that it is Hatton's achilles heel. And for MPACMAN, Hatton's camp can't bring theTorrecampo-sinsngsurat scene in their strategy coz PACMAN was an undernourished-under trained 17 years old boxer then. That body posterior part where they hit him is now as hard as anvil methodically subjected to by rigorous training and stick-whipping for 13 years. The only way that he will have a 70% chance to win is outpoint him and adopt the Beristain strategy, finish the the whole 12 rounds standing and wait for either SD or UD. Since he already won round 1, then four to go-PACMAN will KO Hatton in the 5th round.
Monday Jan 26, 2009 03:09:14 AM
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arbee:
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Pacquiao Wins Round One Against Hatton.
What a good way to start. When Floyd gave hatton that LEFT SLAP-like punch coz he was just so tired to finish the 10th and sir hatton just fell gawking in twilight zone, he was so surprised that that's all it needed to bring Hatton down. Not even a power punch compadre. Freddie knows how to exploit this 10th rd. scene. I am not talking about the future here.I am talking about hatton's JAW. Floyd showed it to the whole world that it is Hatton's achilles heel. And for MPACMAN, Hatton's camp can't bring theTorrecampo-sinsng surat scene in their strategy coz PACMAN was an undernourished-under trained 17 years old boxer then. That body posterior part where they hit him is now as hard as anvil methodically subjected to by rigorous training and stick-whipping for 13 years. The only way that he will have a 70% chance to win is outpoint him and adopt the Beristain strategy, finish the the whole 12 rounds standing and wait for either SD or UD. Since he already won round 1, then four to go-PACMAN will KO Hatton in the 5th round.
Monday Jan 26, 2009 09:34:15 AM
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V Fact:
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Appears its all rumour that Manny takes the bigger purse share from this...so did Manny really make Hatton 'blink', it appears Arum was the one left blinkin and mopping up the tears as anything over/above the 50-50 split for Manny is courtesy of Mr Arum.
Monday Jan 26, 2009 10:56:34 AM
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Gerard:
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"hatton has his fans in britain, but the whole world wants to see pacquiao's next fight"
People need to realize that Pacquaio - David Diaz sold less than Hatton - Malignaggi. Ricky brings a lot of people to the table.
Manny is also getting a share of the UK TV sales which Ricky has never given to any other fighter. Each fighter usually gets the sales from their own country - the UK as compared to the Phillipines is huge in terms of sales.
Manny was getting a lot of money from this. It will also be Hatton fans who fill the venue and not Pacman followers.
The offer is more than fair - the 50/50 is more about stature and reputation than it is economics. Manny is keen to stress the point that he beat Oscar. As for that end, Ricky offered a deal it has been accepted and the fight goes ahead - I think Team Hatton have done very well out of this.
As for the 'who blinked', this will not matter one iota come fight night. Manny may place importance on it but this elevation of status and great victory and biggest of his career may just dull his fire a little. I think Team Hatton wanted this fight made so quickly for a reason and they got their wish. SRL -v- Duran II springs to mind. Could he be out of shape? Im sure Manny has been partying, could he take Hatton too lightly?
Monday Jan 26, 2009 12:09:47 PM
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Davey :
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lol Arum has you all fooled again with his craftmanship hype!! its 50 - 50 split nothing more nothing less
Monday Jan 26, 2009 12:52:24 PM
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MisterLee:
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The only thing worse than a Margarito nuthugger would be a RJJ nuthugger, and the WORST of all is Pacquiao nuthugger. even tho I'm asian american, i'm a boxing fan first. Damn man, Pacquiao is a GREAT and exciting fighter, but maybe b/c I follow boxing and I"m not pinoy, I KNOW he cannot take on any of the top welterweights now: mosley, cotto, margarito, berto, or clottey. with that p4p means that he is the best across weight classes meaning that he could beat anybody or is better than everybody when you consider size and skill. It does not mean he could fight bernard hopkins or kelly pavlik. Anyway, Pacman is a relentless and fast fighter. My prediction is a 6th round ko, or maybe 5th round ko/ tko, and he may get hurt once and then rally back. Yes, floyd sr is an EXCELLENT coach, and hatton's increased boxing ability will give him an advantage as before he never used his jab or have head movement, but now, i think hatton would get in a few shots, but pacquiao will swarm him with his speed and combinations, get in some good body shots, get him tired and exhausted by round 3 or 4, and take him out in the due rounds. I'm saying this based on what i've seen and my opinion, and not from nuthugger status. The hatton fight cannot last more then 6 rounds, they are both too aggressive for that to happen.
Tuesday Jan 27, 2009 01:44:27 PM
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normando:
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what a useless article considering its a 50/50 split after all. Bad omen for pacman... not that hatton will need to superstition on his side to destroy pacman.
Tuesday Jan 27, 2009 03:28:39 PM
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busterdude:
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PARA SA BAYAN ANG MGA LABAN NI MANNY?
BAKIT PARANG PERA NA ANG LABANAN?
FIGHT FOR THE PRIDE OF OUR COUNTRY!!
NOT FOR THE MONEY!!......
"REMEMBER MANNY YOU ARE OVER PAID" .... (by our respect)
MONEY is just a piece of paper!
Wednesday Jan 28, 2009 06:00:08 AM
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jaydublis:
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PACMAN is the man! He's going to turn hatton's face into hamburger meat, then he will beat the crap out of the "glove-packer" Margarito. Matter of fact I don't think Margarito should be allowed to fight nobody UNTIL he gives Cotto a rematch, because it's obvious by the way Cotto's face looked that Margarito's gloves was plastered! Don't get me wrong I like Margarito but this "incident has cast doubt on his recent acomplishment. Pacman will beat Hatton! Then he should fight Shane! Oh yeah did I mention that Paulie Malinaggi is a BUM! 2009 Prince Hamed... a joke in the ring!
Thursday Jan 29, 2009 08:25:16 AM
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jake engoy:
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Im a proud pacfan win or lose. while everyone here is predicting a pac ko on hatton, i seriously believe that hatton is not an easy opponent for pac. he;s not even a one dimeonsional fighter as many thought. however, i believe that in this fight who will have more gas in the tank after the gth will dominate and eventually win the fight
Saturday Jan 31, 2009 07:46:15 AM
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Anonymous user:
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i still think it should have been a 60-40 split for pacman. aside from his stardom, he really is the guy who will bring in the dollars. the pacman is more well known in the US. the pacman even has fans in manchester. hatton's camp claims that his fans travel would travel to watch him and asks whether filipinos (from the philippines?) would do the same. everyone seems to forget that the pacman's following are not only the filipinos living in the philippines, although he is a god over there, the pacman has filipinos and non-filipino fans in the us. so, i don't see how hatton would deserve 50-50, not by a close margin. this comes from some kind of mentality, that the pacman will anyway get more money than he has ever seen because he comes from poverty-- this kind of reasoning was used during the pacquiao- dela hoya fight. such a rationale is used precisely to maintain dominance. the pacman deserved more than a 52-48 split-- this is just insane, the pacman has 80% more fans (generous estimate), therefore 80% bringing in more money-- with the 52-48 split, pacquiao is practically giving money from his own pockets. I don't think, the pacman won the first round. that part of the world once again fooled somebody from the other part of the world, to give them tutelage, this time by creating the hype that somebody like the pacquiao, who actually brings in more fans (therefore money-base), does not deserve a better deal (for some unspeakable rationale). pacquiao could not be given more money probably because they think he's from a poor country anyway, and he has enough from the crumbs falling from the masters table. well, the pacman is the master now, i don't see how a 52-48 split is fair at all-- these people are robbing him blind. and of course, that would be unthinkable because the pacman should be grateful for getting the chance to fight overseas... NOT.
Sunday Mar 15, 2009 07:23:30 PM
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kahlil:
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i still think it should have been a 60-40 split for pacman. aside from his stardom, he really is the guy who will bring in the dollars. the pacman is more well known in the US. the pacman even has fans in manchester. hatton's camp claims that his fans travel would travel to watch him and asks whether filipinos (from the philippines?) would do the same. everyone seems to forget that the pacman's following are not only the filipinos living in the philippines, although he is a god over there, the pacman has filipinos and non-filipino fans in the us. so, i don't see how hatton would deserve 50-50, not by a close margin. this comes from some kind of mentality, that the pacman will anyway get more money than he has ever seen because he comes from poverty-- this kind of reasoning was used during the pacquiao- dela hoya fight. such a rationale is used precisely to maintain dominance. the pacman deserved more than a 52-48 split-- this is just insane, the pacman has 80% more fans (generous estimate), therefore 80% bringing in more money-- with the 52-48 split, pacquiao is practically giving money from his own pockets. I don't think, the pacman won the first round. that part of the world once again fooled somebody from the other part of the world, to give them tutelage, this time by creating the hype that somebody like the pacquiao, who actually brings in more fans (therefore money-base), does not deserve a better deal (for some unspeakable rationale). pacquiao could not be given more money probably because they think he's from a poor country anyway, and he has enough from the crumbs falling from the masters table. well, the pacman is the master now, i don't see how a 52-48 split is fair at all-- these people are robbing him blind. and of course, that would be unthinkable because the pacman should be grateful for getting the chance to fight overseas... NOT.
Monday Mar 16, 2009 04:17:16 AM
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Master:
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Nobody beats the Pacman!!! Go Manny!!!
Watch WWE on July 10 at the Araneta Coliseum!!!
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The Lone Star State Beckons Boxing Back
9/3/10, Dallas, Texas --- "WELCOME TO TEXAS" --- Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (ctr) welcomes superstar Manny Pacquiao (L) and three-time world champion Antonio Margarito (R) to Cowboy Stadium at the press conference Friday for their upcoming mega fight on November 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington,Texas. Pacquiao vs Margarito is promoted by Top Rank in association with MP Promotions and Cowboys Stadium. This telecast will be available live on HBO Pay Per View.
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