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Wednesday Jan 21, 2009

Richardson's rep has flourished after Bouie stepped down. Will he be able to steer Shane past the relentless Margarito?

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Naazim Likes Mosley In Upset Over Margarito

By Bernard Fernandez

   Naazim Richardson’s personal preference is to introduce his fighters to boxing at an early age and to painstakingly guide them along the path that, hopefully, someday will lead to world titles and extended title reigns.

      Richardson, whose products of Philadelphia’s Concrete Jungle boxing team for the most part are related to him, is still waiting for that long-term vision to be realized. The closest thing he has to a made-from-scratch champion is his son, 27-year-old welterweight prospect Rock Allen (14-0, 7 KOs), who began boxing at 8 and was a member of the 2004 U.S. Olympic team that competed in Athens, Greece.

      Other fighters whom Richardson has nurtured, in some cases for nearly two decades, include sons Tiger Allen (Rock’s twin brother) and Bear Richardson and their cousins, Karl “Dynamite” Dargan and Mike “Sharp” Dargan.

      Brother Naazim, as he is known in gyms around the country, probably is best known as the trainer of ageless wonder Bernard “The Executioner” Hopkins, 44, whose corner he has worked for over a decade, but as the chief second only since the Jermain Taylor rematch in 2005, when he rose to the top spot after Hopkins had a falling-out with his longtime instructor, Bouie Fisher. But one of the fight game’s best-kept secrets could find his own star shining more brightly if his newest pupil, “Sugar” Shane Mosley (45-5, 38 KOs), pulls off the upset in Saturday night’s challenge of WBA welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito (37-5, 27 KOs) at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

      Richardson is replacing Mosley’s father, Jack Mosley, whose on-again, off-again relationship with his son once more is off, at least in a professional sense.

      “After Shane signed to fight Margarito, I got a call from his wife, Jin, asking me if I was interested in working with him because they were going to go in a different direction,” Richardson said. “I said, `OK, so long as there’s no controversy.’ I didn’t want it to seem like I was pushing Jack to the side. Jin said, `No, this is our decision and you’re our first choice.’ It was made very clear to me that if I wasn’t available, they weren’t going to go back to Jack. They would simply hire someone else. `It’s time we moved on,’ she said.

      “I’ve always been a big fan of Shane’s, so I said, `Of course I’ll work with him. It’d be an honor.’”

      Richardson has never been much of a hired gun, taking on established fighters who were looking for the boost occasionally generated by a change in the corner. But he had a history with Shane Mosley that made it feel almost as if he was helping another family member, which made the challenge a bit more intriguing.

      “Me and Shane would always talk at different fights,” Richardson said. “I guess we had a lot of similarities in the way we approached certain things in the boxing business.

      “I guess I first met Shane when my sons were little kids and they were fighting in the Blue & Gold tournament (in California). Rock and Tiger must have been about 12 or 13. They took pictures of Shane, and obviously were impressed by him.

      “When we came home, all I heard was Shane Mosley this, Shane Mosley that. They talked me to death about Shane. I said, `Well, Shane’s got a big house. You want to move out there with him?’

      “But, really, Shane is a wonderful person. Everybody feels that way when they meet him. He’s polite to everyone. And he’s a great student (of boxing), a lot like Bernard, so it’s not hard to transfer philosophies to him.”

      Richardson’s role, as he sees it, is not necessarily to tear down and reconstruct the 37-year-old Mosley. It’s more to study Margarito for flaws and weaknesses that can be exploited on fight night.

      “With every job I’ve ever taken in boxing, my first question is, `What exactly are you asking of me?’ he said. “When I find out what my job description is, I stay in my lane.

      “Now, with Shane Mosley, my primary goal is not to teach him how to box. He knows how to box. My primary goal is to study Margarito and to formulate the very best fight plan I can. If I can put together the right fight plan, and it’s executed by an exceptional athlete like Shane Mosley, usually you get a good outcome.”

      Which is not to say that Mosley is so set in his ways that Richardson can’t tweak a thing or two. As always, the trainer goes to his extensive tape library to unearth clues as to what works for individual fighters and what doesn’t. For Richardson, the past is always prologue.

      “One thing I did was to study some of the tapes I had of Shane when he was an amateur,” Richardson said. “I saw something Vernon Forrest had exploited way back when. When Shane was undefeated and the world champion, Forrest exploited the same, exact thing.”

      Reviewing old tapes, many dating back to a fighter’s amateur career, is a trademark of the Richardson way.

      “When Bernard fought Antwun Echols, and when he fought Robert Allen, I went back to the amateur tapes I had on those guys,” he said. “Man, they were making some of the same damn mistakes they were making when they were kids! Maybe they had learned to mask those mistakes a little better, but they were still there.”

      The reason why certain faults linger, uncorrected, is the same reason why Richardson sometimes is criticized for bringing fighters like his son, Rock Allen, along more carefully than some people think is prudent.

      “I just watched Andre Berto have a world of trouble with (Luis) Collazo,” Richardson said. “Berto was a beast as an amateur, talented as could be. But Collazo pretty much exploited him the other night. What’s that prove? It proves that you need to take your time and learn so that when you get the belt (Berto retained his WBC welterweight title on a controversial unanimous decision), you know how to keep it and keep it for a while.

      “Some guys, it’s like they get their GED and they think they know all there is to know. Smart fighters keep learning until they go to college, in a boxing sense, and start earning advanced degrees. There’s more to having longevity in this business than coming along with hot talent.

      “The ones that don’t learn as they go, you seem them making the same mistakes over and over. The smart ones figure out what’s wrong, they fix it and they don’t make the same mistake again.”

      Richardson, not surprisingly, cites Hopkins as an example of a serious student of boxing who has used his ring smarts to sustain and even embellish his career past a point when the aging process should have eroded his physical skills far more than they have.

      “When Bernard fought (Felix) Trinidad, everybody said he was too old then, and he was only, like, 36,” Richardson said. “But he wasn’t too old, was he? And he wasn’t too old against (Kelly) Pavlik either.

      “Some fighters are just exceptional that way, but a lot of it has to do with the way you approach your craft. If you look at the 20-year-old Roy Jones and put him in with the Roy Jones of today, the 20-year-old Roy Jones would wipe the floor with today’s Roy Jones within two rounds.

      “Now, if the 20-year-old Bernard Hopkins fought the Bernard Hopkins of today, the 20-year-old Bernard Hopkins would get his ass whipped. He’d get embarrassed.”

      So which is Mosley? Is he more like Jones at this deep stage of his boxing life, or more like Hopkins?

      “More like Hopkins,” Richardson said. “The 20-year-old Shane Mosley couldn’t beat this Shane Mosley. He’d get dominated. When guys learn their craft and become true students of the sport, they become better fighters. That’s why you want to move some fighters along slow, so they can be better at 30 than they were at 25.”

      Richardson, of course, has gone to his tape vault to find out what it is about Margarito that Mosley can take advantage of. He already believes he knows what Mosley could do that would work in rematches with Forrest and Miguel Cotto, against whom he is 0-2 and 0-1, respectively.

      “Cotto moves like a boxer, but he’s not actually a boxer,” Richardson said in assessing Margarito’s highest-profile victim. “He can emulate a boxer pretty well because he’s been in the gym with guys like that for so long, at so many different levels. But what he actually is, is a slugger.

      “You see it whenever he goes to punch. He’s up on his toes, but he goes flat-footed whenever he’s sets himself to punch. And that’s when Margarito would catch him.

      “That little stop-and-start gave Margarito a chance to wear him down. Some guys get discouraged by getting beat up. A beating don’t mean nothing to them, unless it’s some kind of exceptional beating. They’re going to keep walking through the beating. Margarito was taking an ass-whipping from Cotto, but that didn’t discourage him.

Cotto, on the other hand, got discouraged when he found himself in with a guy he couldn’t stop. Cotto likes to walk to you and break you down, and when he didn’t see this dude breaking down – he didn’t see blood coming from his nose, or his face reddening – he started to fold up mentally.”

      OK, so maybe Mosley can put that knowledge to use against Cotto, if and when they ever fight again. But what of Margarito? How do you discourage someone who doesn’t discourage easily, if at all?

      Richardson isn’t giving away any trade secrets here, but maybe he already has. For guys for whom a regular beating don’t mean nothing, then you have to put an exceptional beating on them.

      Richardson understands what a successful run with Mosley can mean to his own reputation. He has been nominated for the Condon-Futch Award as 2008’s Trainer of the Year by the Boxing Writers Association of America, but in conjunction with former WBA middleweight champion John David Jackson, who serves as Hopkins’ assistant trainer. Even when he is receiving more recognition than ever, Richardson doesn’t even get full credit.

      He says it doesn’t irk him, but every man has his pride, you know? He believes he would be more of a household name if he weren’t so selective, if he expanded the parameters of his operation to include all comers.

      If that sounds like a bit of a potshot at Freddie Roach, who took over as B-Hop’s lead trainer when Richardson was recovering from a minor stroke, well, make of it what you will.

      “I was hoping (Joe) Calzaghe would take a rematch with Bernard because I’d love to be in a position to head up Bernard’s camp,” said Richardson, who noted that he took a secondary position to Roach for a fight Hopkins lost on April 19, 2008, on a split decision. “I really felt that by me being sick, I wasn’t there for Bernard as much as I should have been for his fights with Winky Wright and Calzaghe. The last time I was able to run his camp my way was for (Antonio) Tarver.”

      And we all know how that one turned out. B-Hop tuned up the “Magic Man” in one of the finest performances of his luminescent career.

      “Not taking anything away from Freddie Roach, but I’ve worked with coaches in Philadelphia who were really good but never got anywhere near his level of recognition,” Richardson said.

      “Kenny Weldon told me years ago that I had the potential to be a great coach, but I never would be because I love my fighters too much. I didn’t understand what he meant then, but I think I do now.

      “You work with a hundred guys, you got a chance to be on TV a hundred times. Some of them win, some of them don’t, but that’s the numbers game. Let’s face it, it’s easier to win if you work with a bunch of guys who already knew how to fight when they came to you.”

      So maybe Shane Mosley, by definition, can’t be Richardson’s masterwork. Maybe Hopkins really can’t be, either. Maybe that imprimatur of greatness, the same one that has been stamped upon the Emanuel Stewards, Cus D’Amatos and Eddie Futches, won’t be there for Richardson until Rock Allen and a couple of other Concrete Jungle alums complete the journey from boxing neophytes to adult champions.

      But for Naazim Richardson, the arrival at some glorious destination is only as worthwhile as the arduousness of the trip itself.

      “It can be funny sometimes, the relationship between a coach and a fighter,” he said. “There comes a time when every fighter has to decide which route he wants to go, and who he wants to be on his team.

      “I’ve told my sons they could go another way if they wanted to, and I’d be OK with that if it turned out to be the best thing for them. But changing for the sake of changing isn’t always the right thing to do.

      “(Music producer) Damon Dash fell apart from his partner, Jay-Z. Damon Dash said, `I made Jay-Z. And Jay-Z said, `Well, if you made me, make another me.’ That was a heck of a statement.

      “It’s like I tell my amateur kids. I say, `If you leave this gym, come back in a year and I’ll have a different national champion.’ Sometimes fighters can take a coach for granted, and sometimes coaches can take a fighter for granted. It happens all the time. But I’m pretty comfortable with who I am and what I bring to the equation.”

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andy from newcastle:  Mosley winning will not be an upset. He's one of the top all round fighters of the last decade. This will be a great fight between two well matched tough headed warriors, that many of us TSSers now predict as a UD for Mosley. No upset, either way. Toonoy
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 11:45:39 AM
Robert Curtis:  Margarito by hard-won UD. But I agree with Andy. Either way, the word upset doesn't apply. Mosely's experience, skills and heart match up well with Margarito's volume punching and tenacity. I'm still favoring Antonio in an all out war. Some folks say age is just a number. But youth has to matter sometime. The way Antonio keeps hitting from all angles impresses me too. Margarito reminds me of what Archie Moore said about Marciano "He comes at you like ship's propeller, but the blades keep changing speeds." I may paraphrase, but that's as close as I remember. I've given Antonio the edge and I'll stick to it. But Mosely winning another classic will be no surprise to anyone.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 12:19:35 PM
RIVERSIDE:  hey andy, i need to disagree with you margarito is the favorite against mosley or any other at welterweight including williams,just like dlh and mp, if mosley wins it's an upset, richardson will not be a factor in his corner, margo will overwhel him too many punches with power, mosley had a hard time against mayorga, his a brute unorthodox fighter, you can hit him with your eyes closed, margo is 10x better and faster and we need to relate cotto also, we have to, cotto outboxed mosley, the boxer,but cotto was not able to outbox margarito, without eating to much leather,mosley will never be able to outbox margo,unless he get on his bicycle on survival mode, but that is not shane, he will fight and be taken to uncharter waters and taken down 10th or 11th round
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 12:39:10 PM
Big Daddy:  Splenda Shane can pull off the upset and Margarito has at times been inconsistent. But, The TJ Tornado is now the current Mexican Flag Bearer.. and that means alot to Tony and all Mexican Boxing Fans.I got Margarito by late round stoppage.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 12:40:06 PM
Salt lover:  I don't know about this Richardson, but when he said "That little stop-and-start gave Margarito a chance to wear him (Cotto) down. Some guys get discouraged by getting beat up." I ask, so does Mosley, at 37, can be constantly moving for the entire 12 rounds? I seriously doubt that. Mosley can box, and he can move, and he's faster (All of those things Cotto was also much better than Margarito), but the question is after 4 or 5 rounds, how he's going to respond to Tony's constant, almost unstoppable pressure. People use the B-Hop example to justify Mosley's age, but 170lbs was not Pavlik's Weightclass; nor Mosley is B-Hop. In my opinion 154lbs is Mosley's best weight than 147lbs. It's been six and a half years since Mosley KO'ed anybody at Welterweight. And even at 154lbs, the last performance Mosley gave against an awkward guy like Mayorga was very poor. Margarito is stronger, more resistant, and resilient at 147lbs than Mayorga at 154lbs. I'm taking Antonio Margarito beating Mosley by UD, or late round stoppage. There are only two ways that I can see Margarito losing: That he doesn't punch at all, which sometimes a fighter (I don't know why) doesn't throw a punch and let the other guy hit him, or that Mosley gets lucky and finds himself a cut on Margarito's eye and starts targeting the eye all the fight before they stop it. Other than that, I see Margarito getti'n a convincingly huge Victory over the "Sugar" man.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 12:52:57 PM
Radam G aka Humble PRG laughin' at agent inspector Bozo D:  Splenda is better for you than all that processed sugar. It will make you a Double-O-Seven Fatso. This agent-like James Bond of our cyberspace Universe needs to paid a visit to Jenny Craig. Sugar Shane can easily pull the upset by ripping to the body and banging to the shoulders. After six rounds, The Tornado Tijuana will have pain in the stomach and separated shoulders. I can see the Sugarman winning, but TTT will blow through him if he doesn't fight smart, instead of hard. Dufus daddy has water on the brains. He is so big that he thinks his imaginary pet elephant is a deformed, hairless skin, prehensile trunk Chihuahua. Agent B(ot) D is doing a lot of banking to buy Michael Jackson zoo since moving. This great agent, who blows my cover, is a legend in his own delusional nanomind. But I cannot find any info on him in Boxrec, Boxing-Scoop, Sheratin or Fightfax. I guess this legend is also a great fraderaire, along with that fibberaireness. Holla!
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 01:00:12 PM
Big Daddy Still Gettin' Filipina Love :-:  Blah Blah Blah Blah...... Hey Radam Gibberish not so Humble, you're like a Dumb Dog chasing trucks in traffic... You don't EVER want to catch up to this one my Flea-Bitten Friend. LOL
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 01:51:12 PM
RIVERSIDE:  hey salt lover you said it right and you said it good, this richardson will not be a factor, he is pretending to be some awesome trainer, i can train b hop, b- hop will never age, natural skills, i now shane, he is and awesome guy ...islands north pomona........ he is going in swinging he thinks he can beat this guy toe to toe, i disagree
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 02:09:51 PM
RIVERSIDE:  hey salt lover you said it right and you said it good, this richardson will not be a factor, he is pretending to be some awesome trainer, i can train b hop, b- hop will never age, natural skills, i now shane, he is and awesome guy ...islands north pomona........ he is going in swinging he thinks he can beat this guy toe to toe, i disagree
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 02:14:47 PM
Salt lover:  RIVERSIDE, I would be VERY surprise if Mosley starts out head-to-head against Margarito early on. But it's possible due to the circumstances that Margarito will probably be expecting a different gameplan and would be in surprised too finding Mosley going after him. But still, I don't think Mosley has enough to defeat Margarito by boxing him, much less going straight to him. Cuts would be the only free ticket for Mosley but that's a one out of a hundred chance. I'm taking Margarito. And about Richardson, let the man have his moment. If he thinks him being in Mosley's corner is going to make any difference, then fine. Let him. Still I got Margarito giving Mosley one hell of a beating since the first Forrest fight and let's see what he says after Saturday's fight.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 02:22:39 PM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  Nice! I like the dummy! He is cute. Delusional with nanobrain power, but cute. Lmfao! You will be all right dufus. It's all in fun. Holla!
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 02:44:14 PM
Son of Sam Peter:  Big surprise, Mosley's trainer is picking him to win the fight. What did you expect him to do, pick Margarito? My pick: I like Antonio to overwhelm SSM and win by a late corner stoppage. I think the first 3 or 4 rounds will be fairly competitive and then the tide will begin to turn, with a winded and battered Mosley struggling to escape the onslaught of the Tijuana Tornado and his corner saving him from superfluous damage.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 02:50:31 PM
Anony:  ::: I'm under the impression Margarito will win this fight but I'm impress with Richardson's approach. Every word he said here sounds like a perfect game plan so....... who knows? I may give the edge to Margarito but Richardson's sounds perfect for Mosley. The fight against Mayorga was a disappointment since Shane didn't change the game plan for 12 rounds so maybe Richardson is the missing link in Shane's corner. One thing is for sure, this fight is going to be something else. I guess Cotto will be studying this one over and over and over and over. He needs a real game plan against Margarito next time they face each other. YOU GUYS REMEMBER I DID COMMENT COTTO NEEDED TO HIRE BERNARD HOPKINS AS A TRAINER CONSULTANT FOR HIS NEXT MARGARITO FIGHT????? I GUESS HE NEEDS TO HIRE RICHARDSON INSTEAD NO MATTER WHAT'S THE OUTCOME WITH SHANE. THE YEAR OF THE "SLUG FESTS" IS IN FULL EFFECT!!!! BOXING IS ALIVE AND (PUNCHING)!!!!!
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 03:22:21 PM
Anony:  :::: PLEASE DON'T QUESTION RADAM'S HUMBLENESS. HE IS ALMOST LIKE A GANDHI TO US HERE.... LOVE YOU RADAM!!!! LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED HELP DEALING WITH THESE BUMS!!!!!!!
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 03:26:58 PM
Javier:  I want Margo to win but after seen many upsets i dont know who will win but maybe Margo by late stoppage, i will be at RING SIDE on saturday night!!!!!!!!!!!!!yeah.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 03:41:49 PM
Salt lover:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Son of Sam Peter, I was just thinking about write in this article again and put what you just posted. BIG DEAL!!!!!! So WHAT if Richardson picks Mosley. What did everyone expected for him to do, to pick Tony? LOL!!!! Dude, you're 100% correct HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Besides, it's not like he's won all the fights with B-Hop. He has a loss to Calzaghe, and B-Hop was trained with three trainers, in fact three boxing trainers, and a conditioning "specialist" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Good one, Son of Peter................Javier, I'm happy you got the opportunity to see the fight live. Hope you nejoy Saturday to the fullest. Peace dudes.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 03:57:35 PM
Saul:  I gotta go with my boys Salt and Riverside on this one, Margarito by late round stoppage. Radam is a saint, you hear me? a saint.
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 05:27:24 PM
donputo69 at home:  this one is too close to call...this fight could go either way...but if I was a betting man, I will go with margarito by SD...I wish I could go to the fight, but I'm gonna stay home...holla back!!!
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 05:37:25 PM
andy from newcastle:  Man, I love this site. Toonoy
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 08:03:33 PM
DaveB:  I'm surprised to see so many go against Margarito after his win against Cotto and after Mosley's fight against Mayorga, but I agree with you all. Cotto really out boxed Margarito as did Williams. Margarito is only average on boxing skills. His chin is awesome as is his stamina. I don't see Mosley getting stopped, to me that would be a shocker. Mosley will need to go to the head to rack up points and go to the body to de-motivate Margarito's forward progress enough so that he has to think about it. I see Mosley in a close decision,
Thursday Jan 22, 2009 09:09:09 PM
TototBato:  Shane only needs to win 7 and survive 12... think about it, he's a good boxer and he's a tough dude (as long as Margarito does not learn to throw an overhand right). Boggle your mind.
Friday Jan 23, 2009 12:09:04 AM
Kool-Aid:  I got Mosley...UD. Mosley got too many skills for the big Margarito. Margarito will get some good licks in but Mosley has a great chin and won't get hit as much as Cotto did due to Mosley's better defense.
Friday Jan 23, 2009 11:45:43 AM
Real Talk:  Mosley by UD !!! Man it's a lot of volatility in peoples perception of a fighter .You win you're the greatest ...you lose you're washed up . Funny . I see Mosley beating Margo to the punch all night . The only thing that will save Margo is the Ole favorite punch of the mexican fighter , shot to the liver . Mosley has good ring generalship , stamina , adjustments , speed , toughness , chin , etc. . None of these things can be counted out . If he boxes smart and picks his battles he'll get the nod . Too many people are making Tony like he's unbeatable . Kinda reminds me of Pavlik vs. Hopkins . And if you don't think Nazim is a boost to that corner you must be smoking . Good instructions an adgustments . He came up under a master (Bouie Fisher) , an I haven't seen him stuck or froze without any answers in his corner either . Mosley UD . Peace and Blessings
Friday Jan 23, 2009 10:38:56 PM

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