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Tuesday Jan 6, 2009

Vicious Victor laughs it up with Merchant after the Resto win. TSS Universe, is Ortiz your 2008 Prospect of the Year?

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TSS Prospect Watch: Victor Ortiz

By Ralph Gonzalez

Some careers get started in the most peculiar ways. For 21 year-old “Vicious” Victor Ortiz, it was his father’s words that sent him on his way towards becoming one of boxing’s hottest commodities.  “We’re not going to have any pu***es in this family,” the old man said after he learned little Victor was getting beat up at school.


“I was a fat kid that was getting the crap beat out of me so my dad put me in the boxing gym,” remembers Ortiz, who has a professional record of 23 wins and 1 loss with 18 knock-outs. “I hated it at first.” After getting used to being punched in the face and a few bloody noses during sparring, he grew to love the competitive nature of the sport. He was happy to have found his calling. Unfortunately, things took a sad turn.

The Mexican American kid who grew up in Garden City, Kansas, of all places, got a harsh dose of life at the age of seven when his mother abandoned him and his siblings. “I thought we were a normal, happy family but I was wrong,” Ortiz said. A few years later his alcoholic father followed suit, leaving the family to fend for themselves. “We were left with nothing. My sister had to be a mom to us when my parents left.”


Putting himself in the role of a provider and needing to survive, Ortiz did what he had to do in order to help out the family. “I’m not going to lie. I dealt some ecstasy and some marijuana but I never tried it,” Ortiz said.  “I just dealt it. It wasn’t a good thing to do but it got me my money when I really needed it.”

His brief stint as a dealer ended once he got a taste of legitimate success. Ortiz saw his image in the newspaper after winning the Golden Gloves and it moved him. “The photo came out all over Kansas and that’s when it hit me,” Ortiz said of the epiphany. “I realized that I didn’t need to be involved with selling drugs in order to make something of myself. I said screw this. I don’t need all this crap or this guilt.”

 The first person he called was the guy who was wholesaling him the drugs he would later sell for a profit. “I called him and told him that this wasn’t for me,” Ortiz said. “I told him and everyone else that I was going to try and become a world champion and they just laughed. Eventually they said ‘cool, we have your back’.”

According to ESPN.com and SportsIllustrated.com, it may be “Vicious” Vic who gets the last laugh. Both outlets have just named the Golden Boy Promotions fighter as their prospect of 2008. The 140 pounder made sure he remained on everyone’s mind after coming off a devastating first round knockout victory over Jeffrey Resto on the De La Hoya/Pacquiao undercard.

Ortiz remains humble nonetheless. “I’m just one of many other prospects. Just another up and coming fighter,” he said. “I’m a guy that’s been working hard and hoping it pays off.”

Although a likeable person with a laid back demeanor outside the ring, Ortiz more than lives up to his moniker once he’s in battle mode. “I got that nickname at the Olympic trials. People were saying don’t let that kid fool you with that smile, he’s vicious,” Ortiz said. “I don’t see myself as vicious but everyone started calling me that so it stuck.”

He’s been refining his trade since he was a kid, winning one amateur show after the other. It was at the 2003 junior Olympics that former world champion and current trainer Robert “Grandpa” Garcia approached him. “I guess he liked my style and went back to Oxnard where he told his dad about me,” Ortiz said. Garcia’s father, Eduardo, was the trainer for well known champion Fernando Vargas. “Eventually he called me and asked me what I thought about coming to California to train and live with him. I said send me a plane ticket and I’m there.”

 He went from the flatlands of Kansas to the beaches and hills of Southern California. It was a welcome change that helped boost his career. “In California you have a lot of choices when it comes to training and you have a lot of good fighters to spar with,” Ortiz said. “The move definitely helped bring my game up to another level.”

 He recently got a taste of some big time sparring after helping Oscar De La Hoya prepare for his fight with Manny Pacquiao in Big Bear. Ortiz is rumored to have more than held his own against Oscar but chooses to keep quiet regarding details. Oscar’s eight round loss to Pacquiao came as a real shocker. “The Oscar I sparred with was not the Oscar that showed up against Manny on that night. I thought he was going to knock out Manny easy,” Ortiz said. “I can’t tell you what happened. The best that I can come up with is that he hit his weight too early and he was drained but I really don’t know. That wasn’t the Oscar I was expecting on that night. I don’t think anyone expected that.”

Although he’s highly touted, Ortiz feels he has a lot to prove. “If anything, I have to prove something to myself. I want to succeed very badly. I’ve seen people who have everything and yet they’re really unhappy and don’t appreciate it,” Ortiz said. “I don’t want to be like that. I want to reach all my goals in life and I want to be someone that truly appreciates everything I earn. I’ve been working too hard and too long for it.”

Will he fulfill the promise that boxing pundits believe he’s capable of or will he be another hot prospect that goes bust? Anyone remember Francisco “Panchito” Bojado? He too was a prospect of the year at one time. I think things will be different with “Vicious” Vic.

Unlike Bojado, the reports are that Ortiz is a gym rat and takes proper care of his weight. “This is all I know how to be good at and I take it very seriously,” Ortiz said. “I’ve got the dedication of a champion. I plan to work harder than everybody else. I’m smart enough to realize that I can’t rest on my current success. I know that the hardest part of the journey is still ahead of me.”

And that realization is what will make all the difference in the world.

 To watch Ortiz vs. Resto: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQU-4f_0cxM       
   

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in touch :  great story, full of drama and heart. well done.
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 04:53:53 AM
Big Daddy:  Much like Robert Guerrero, another talented youngster that dumped his promoter ( Top Rank ) for Cherry-Pickin' GBP. He should be wary of Eric Gomez ( GBP's Matchmaker ) and his Ham-Handed devoloping of young fighters .. or lack there of.
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 10:41:06 AM
#1 Pacfan P4P "Legend":  The fight against Resto in the undercard of the Pacquia-Dela Hoya did not impress too much about Ortiz. I saw it as a big mismatch just like the main event. I like his style though, he needs fight a guy like Amir Khan to show where he stands. It would be a good test for both, Khan coming off a lost and Ortiz a prospect looking to improve. The both fighting can benefit one another and maybe who knows one can become a future opponent for Pacman.
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 11:58:25 AM
Radam G aka Humble PRG giving the love from Manila, PI:  NICE! I can see this kid becoming a champion. "Kansas City, here I come," this could be the kid's theme song. Kansas City needs a boxing champion. It's been a while, and I think the kid Ortiz is on spot to getting an alphabet-sanctioning organization crown. He blasted right through Resto, and Resto is much better than people think. And the Oscar who he sparred with was the same dude who fought PacMan. PacMan is just that good. Maybe the kid will get a chance to spar with the Pac and find out. Holla!
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 01:08:45 PM
Yuvie:  I wonder when Goldenboy will start working on getting their top prospects into decent fights. They only seem to care about their four horsemen.
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 03:26:46 PM
Fistic Fury:  @ #1 PACFAN.....Not everything is about your lover, Manny. There are other fighters you know!!! Ortiz is looking good right now but not amazing, I think i'm a jinx because every time I see him fight he doesn't perform as well...
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 06:31:31 PM
#1 Pacfan P4P "Express":  Fistic i said maybe, MAYBE! It is all about Manny hell everyone wants to fight him they want a piece of the pie too. I would fight Manny if i had a chance then i can tell my kids that i got butt whooped by Manny Pacquiao. That's one hell of a story to tell your kids don't you agree.
Wednesday Jan 7, 2009 12:26:19 AM
The Mud Crab:  Amir Khan V Ortiz would be interesting but it won't happen ,they are in different weight divs. I'd like to see Ortiz matched up with well performed Thai boxer Sirimongkol Singwancha.
Wednesday Jan 7, 2009 04:43:24 AM
kyle callahan:  this kid is the future of boxing. He's got the skills and the right attitude.I'd like to see him in a little tougher though.
Wednesday Jan 7, 2009 01:33:32 PM
westcoast1:  I understand Manny is the man right now ,but we are talking about Vicious V not the pac man. Remember these words, and new junior welter weight champion of the world, Vicious VIctor Otiz!
Thursday Jan 8, 2009 09:42:48 PM
FightFans:  Really a prospect to watch. If Manny schedule still allows, a fight with Victor Ortiz would be a nice match-up. They both love to see their hand raised after the fight was over. A fight with JMM is a good tune-up game before the Pacman. Godspeed.
Friday Jan 9, 2009 07:12:16 PM
lacoloniaboxer@tmail.com :  I used to train at the same gym with victor.. I know him personally and he's a good friend of mine.. I remember seeing him sparr with manny at the wild card gym and I was not impressed at all by manny.. I still think he suck even tho he beat a money hungry oscar dela hoya.. Everyone knows oscar was only planning for manny to be known even more by beating "the golden boy" so that then golden boy promotions can sign a couple fights with paquiao and make some more money! My thought of all this is that there is no one out there that can beat victor. No one is ever impressed by his performance because he make his opponents look like amateurs! Victor will be a world champion for a very long time I think..
Saturday Jan 17, 2009 10:56:55 AM
Alena:  Well ha you fell on your feet and ha Victor you get back on your feet and start fighting your way to the limt.
Thursday Oct 1, 2009 07:00:57 PM

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