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Saturday Dec 20, 2008

Fortunately for the sport, very few people watched this fight. A good thing, since MMA only poached another few thousand dismayed boxing fans who watched Valuev and Holyfield's sad, plodding outing.

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Boxing, Valuev, Holyfield All Lose

By Ron Borges

Evander Holyfield was right. So were the people who said he can’t fight any more.

      Holyfield insisted for weeks that he could win the WBA heavyweight title from 7-foot, 310-pound Nikolay Valuev. He was correct. He could have had he not had to go to Switzerland to try and win it away from a German promoter named Wilfred Sauerland, who unfortunately for Holyfield controls both Valuev and the Swiss Boxing Commission.

      But do not get your blood pressure elevated because the rest of the boxing world was right too when it insisted almost to a person that Holyfield no longer belonged inside a boxing ring. Holyfield proved that by plodding through 12 embarrassing rounds, most of them spent bouncing up and down while staying several arms lengths away from Valuev. It figures this fight was staged in Switzerland. Didn’t they sit out World War II? Valuev and Holyfield did the same thing Saturday night.

      War this was not, as Holyfield spent the evening circling and moving and slipping and sliding away from the clutches of a Russian giant who has no more idea how to fight than Sequatchie does but otherwise has quite a bit in common with him.

      When it was mercifully over Saturday night, Holyfield had won back the WBA version of the heavyweight title without having to for one moment engage in a fight, which was a good thing because the few times one threatened to break out he did not look good in the exchanges.

      Boxing being boxing however, two of the three judges inside sold out Hallenstadion in Zurich, Switzerland (not much must be happening there on a Saturday night) thought Nikolay Valuev had done enough to retain the WBA title and so awarded it to him, one by a ridiculous score of 116-110 in a fight Holyfield won by no less a margin than 117-111. That margin existed, just to keep the record straight, only because Valuev fought like a man on Quaaludes.

      The Swiss judge scored it 115-114 for Valuev as well, meaning while his Italian counterpart committed a felony his scorecard was only petty theft by comparison.

      The one card that made some sense was that of Panamanian judge Guillermo Perez, who scored it a draw, 114-114. Although I had Holyfield winning 117-111 it is easy to see how one could come up with a draw because since neither guy wanted to fight why give either of them a round?

      The 46-year-old Holyfield was trying to become the oldest man to ever win any portion of the fractured heavyweight title. Although he will never be credited with it he did enough to win. Since Valuev did nothing that was a pretty low standard.

      “I thought I hit him more times than he hit me,’’ Holyfield said a smirk of resignation on his tired face. “I felt I did what was necessary to win.’’

      He did. He got to Zurich safely.

      That’s really all it took because Valuev was so much worse than atrocious words fail me. Valuev has twice won the WBA title, a fact that proves miracles do come true. He spent his entire night in Zurich following Holyfield around the ring like that guy in those old comic skits whose hat was tied to a string and every time he bent down to pick it up off the ground it moved away from him.

      Later Valuev (51-1) would say with a straight face, “He made me work very hard to win. Holyfield was unbelievable with his speed.’’

      There are many words one can associate with Holyfield these days. Insane would be one. Shot would be another. Speed would not come into the equation unless he was driving one of his 20 sports cars around Atlanta.

      Speed? What does the word mean in Russina? Slow of hand and slower of foot?

      Holyfield lumbered around so badly it gave the word lumbering a bad name. Then again, compared to Valuev, he looked like Willie Pep, even though he fought like Willie Pepless.

      If ever one wanted to make a case for the death of boxing all they’d have to do is sit people in a room for an hour and condemn them to watch a tape of what went on in Zurich Saturday night. By the time that tape was done running, MMA would have a new legion of fans because it was an advertisement for any form of entertainment not called boxing.

      This was a fight that, as predicted, did nothing for anyone involved. It did not elevate Holyfield (42-10-1) even though he deserved to get the decision and it didn’t do anything for the long-suspect Valuev but confirm everyone’s worst fears – which is that he is a sad, freakish circus act who cannot spell fight let alone engage in one.

      As for the heavyweight division, it was just another in what now seems an endless string of reasons to ignore the weight class that once ruled the sport. If Nikolay Valuev is a heavyweight champion of anything the title is meaningless. If there is a place inside a boxing ring these days for Holyfield, who was once one of the sport’s shining stars, it is in a tuxedo being introduced as a celebrity in attendance and nothing more.

      In the end there is only one thing that can be said about the engagement that was Nikolay Valuev vs. Evander Holyfield – thank God it’s over.

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Shep:  This fight was a disgrace. Neither guy even pretended to try and hurt the other. Prior to this, the worst heavyweight title fight I'd ever seen was Briggs-Liakovich. This one surpassed it by miles. Boxing is supposed to be the hurt business. Sadly, the safest place in Switzerland Saturday was in that ring in that arena. I've seen more bloodshed in a pillow fight. No bad intentions. No effort whatsoever. There was not a significant punch landed by either guy in 36 minutes of boxing. That's incredible. A marathon features more landed punches. One would think that even accidentally a guy would have to connect over that many rounds. It never happened. I'm telling you, Tyson should lobby for a fight against this Russian. I'd make him the favorite. He has a name. The fight could sell. Nobody remembers Danny Williams or Kevin McBride. Mainstream media still thinks he's the Tyson of 1988. They could both cash in.
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 09:46:10 PM
BIG DAWG:  The fact that there are no comments here says it all!!!
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 09:47:49 PM
Teddy Atlas Shrugged:  Oh no we're probably going to get a rematch. I didn't want to see Holyfield-Ruiz even once and we wound up getting 3 installments of that. Get used to Valuev-Holyfield because we'll probably see it twice in 2009. Heavyweight boxing is indeed DEAD.
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 09:57:59 PM
Peter Egley:  Another pessimistic report on the heavyweight division and boxing in general. Just glad Holyfield got out alive. I won't knock MMA. I've no reason to. I've watched a bit of ultimate fighting, whatever the sport is actually called, and it holds no appeal for me. I did see some of a pretty good Jean Claude Van Damme (hey, I like him!) portraying an apparent "MMA style" fighter named Frank Dux, and it was damn entertaining. Boxing has it pros and cons, if it folds up it won't be because of me. It's my favorite sport to watch, has been for decades. Anyway, I hope you guys now turn some of your attention to WBC Lightweight Champ Ann-Marie Saccurato's mandatory against Layla McCarter. It's a really bad situation when a fighter like McCarter has to agree to the WBC rules of 2 minute rounds in order to take Ann-Marie's title. It's utterly ridiculous, you should see (sorry, venting here) some of the sexist crap in the forums. Anyway, I'm also a Buddy McGirt fan (trust me, this will make a bit of sense), and I think it would be cool if Buddy worked with Layla. Holly Holm has a defense against Myriam Lamare, and Lamare has former McCarter rival Lucia Rijker working with her. To awkwardly conclude this spiel, Ann-Marie should fight McCarter at the standard 3 minute rounds. This could really be a big fight for McCarter, in my book. Saccurato, she's a hardcore boxer, got a crew of Laracuente, Melissa Hernandez, and Angel Bovee that have combined all their boxing knowledge to support the talented Ann. This will get laughed at as delusional, but it would be a good Christmas if Buddy worked with Layla. Of the smaller fighters, I've long been a fan of both.
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 10:35:52 PM
Robert Curtis:  It was an awful fight, but a worse decision. The judges should be prosecuted for false witness, bribery and elder abuse. They just robbed a 46 year old heavy of his last chance at a belt. Valuev fought like an old woman caught in the rain without an umbrella. Pathetic. Holyfield did enough to win on any un-biased person’s scorecard, but played it too safe. In the end, Evander dared nothing. You can’t coast on occasional flurries or count on fairness when you fly over an ocean and fight in an opponent’s backyard. The only way to take another man’s belt is by KO. A young Holy would have gutted that towering hump like a dead moose. I’m sorry. I’m sure Nikolay Valuev is a sweet gentle guy who writes sensitive poems. But a champion boxer he is not. If Holyfield can get another payday in a dull safe rematch, good for him. That's his free enterprise and pursuit of happiness. Here's hoping that Haye or Arreola or some young somebody can breathe some life back into this division of the living dead.
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 10:42:03 PM
Aaron:  How's Ali looking these days? Can he still box enough to take down Valuev? Valuev would be easier than Trevor Berbick.
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 10:55:56 PM
Real Talkadomus:  I called this one to perfection . 19 n 5 on the year . Dueces
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 10:56:43 PM
Radam G aka Humble PRG -- Holy wuz robbed:  Wow! A very strange, smelly night in Switzerland, and I smell it all the way to Leyte Gulf, Pilipinas. Nick Roberts kept saying that Value(less)v was "comatosed." Yup! Because Holy made him that way. But yet Roberts was talking down on Holy for being "old." And said that Valuev just gave Holy the title. THEN, as the "Year of the Upset" was in full effect. And I was ready to collect. And Holy won just as I bet. As the former standout U.S. (and international) amateur boxer of the 1970s, (TSS reader) Pete Steward, said it would be be a win for Holy, but a big-time ROBBERY!!! The WBC should save face and call this thing a no contest and order an immediate rematch. Or just maybe strip the Russian giant of the title. Reminiscent of Max Baer-Primo Carnera, Cali-Mexican American Chris "The Nightmare" Arreola would finish the giant marshmellow in about four rounds. May that match in Switzerland or anywhere. Perhap in Manila. Holla!
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 11:25:39 PM
Radam G aka Humble PRG -- Holy wuz robbed:  *Make that match in Switzerland or anywhere. Perhap in Manila. Holla!
Saturday Dec 20, 2008 11:38:12 PM
Radam G be Humble PRG saying MC 2 u:  Wow! Superfighwriter Ron got his sarcasm on in that piece. Man! I thought I was reading a piece written by a hater delight of the game. I didn't think Holy looked that bad. By far, he looked better than legends Chris Byrd and Oscar De la Hoya. Will he be back? YES? Holla!
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 12:15:38 AM
Anony:  ASIDE FROM THE RESULT... who was the first one to say Holyfield had a chance to win? ... YES, UNCLE ANONY.... then a bunch of ladies started listening. I told you all. Valuev is just an impressive big guy but he doesnt move. Even Chris Arreola can take him down If he stops eating those freakin enchiladas and guacamole. I see W. Klitchsko dominating the heavyweights for a lonnnnnng time.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 12:32:55 AM
Fistic Fury:  Firstly the fight was terrible and neither fighter earned their purse but it doesn't change the fact that 46 year old Evander Holyfield should have been crowned heavyweight champion of the world. These corrupt judge's have denied and rewritten history, Holyfield should be the oldest heavyweight champion in history right now but he isn't and that's a pretty big deal especially for the real deal...
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 01:00:14 AM
Kidd:  This is another PATHETIC display of the Boxing media once again mentioning MMA when it has nothing to do with Boxing. What does MMA have to do with this match? I guess MMA has never had a bad dec or a boring fight! JEEEEZZZZ stop mentioning MMA or comparing it to Boxing!
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 01:26:10 AM
KrhymeDeniro:  For me one thing was made very clear in the fight; It's time for Evander Holyfield to retire. Not only for his safety but because he just "lost" to the only titlist in the division he could have possibly beaten. However, what happened to Evander Holyfield on Saturday night was a robbery of Casamayor/Santa Cruz proportions. Holyfield moved well, picked his shots (granted, there weren't many) and caught most of the astonishingly few punches Valuev threw back on his forearms and gloves. It's not that Evander was so good, it's that Valuev was so bad. He pushed lazy jabs with nothing behind them and plodded forward ponderously, completely erasing the memory of what looked like the possibly improving and potentially respectable jab he showed flashes of during the Ruiz fight. Holyfields lateral movement kept the colossal Russian turning and unable or unwilling to throw and in the meantime Holyfield landed shots. Not a lot of them and nothing earth-shaking for sure, but he landed more cleanly and often than Valuev. It was a terribly boring fight and almost tragic that it was for a title, but despite it's overall insignificance in the grand scheme of the Heavyweight landscape deserved to be judged fairly. Evander deserved this win and this title, for whatever they're worth.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 01:50:01 AM
paul marr:  this fight proves 2 points, an age limit should be put on pro fights,e.i 40 years or younger.second point is the heavy wieght division is an absolute joke. these big eastern european guys are at best average boxers, the heavy weight division is crying out for a new champ to put these guys to bed, once and for all.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 03:03:28 AM
Yakov F.:  Gentlemen, Nikolay was a DEFENDING champion, so as a kind-hearted by nature, well-educated, fair in all respects man he was not obliged to act aggressively. The fight was exciting. Holyfiled, in an excellent shape, did his best to land as many blows as a skilful and experienced fighter could in his situation and to avoid being hurt too much. Everytime he was hit, it was painful. Valuev delivered two or three hooks, and everytime Holifield's feet left the ground. Valuev hit him in the shoulder, and Holyfield flew across half the ring. It's so good he saved his head! In an amateur boxing he may have won by points, but in professional sport - do you really believe he beat Valuev, after flying away all 12 rounds?!
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 06:33:06 AM
steve:  I dont know why these fighters go to fight in Germany / switzerland / Italy etc. , most fights that go the distance are gonna be scored in favour of the hometown champ no matter how he faught,. its like the old saying you need to knock em out to get a draw over there, and unless something is done about these crazy scorecards boxing is gonna suffer in a big way........
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 06:43:46 AM
Elliot:  Decemebr 20, 2008. I cried my eyes out last night. I cried my eyes out. Holyfield won that fight and as I sat, awaiting the formality of the decision, tears of joy flowed freely. My tears quickly turned to tears of despair. I've never, in all my life, witnessed something like that. Last night, Evander supplanted George Foreman as the oldest heavyweight champion in history. As much as we love George and his accomplishments, there is no need to show any more Foreman-Moorer clips. Bury them and replace them with clips of Holyfield-Valuev, as it is a FACT that the oldest heavyweight champion in the history of boxing is Evander Holyfield. Props again to Evander, the WBA Heavyweight Champion. As for who's next, I'd like to see Evander against Wladimir, only I want the fight to take place in the U.S. Bring it on! Holyfield-W. Klitschko NOW!
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 10:01:58 AM
LeonardoMarroquini:  What we have to understand is that the judges' scorecards werent the biggest problem we have today(even though its atrocious) in boxing. The problem is having two guys fighting(if you can call that a fight) at such a low level and the bout being actually for a world belt - Thats the problem.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 10:32:25 AM
andy from newcastle:  Yakov, Krythme, thank you for giving Evander the credit many others are ignoring, for fighting an intelligent, calculated , and title winning fight. Before the bout most articles and comments were of the nature that this bout should not be sanctioned at all, Holyfield risked permanent damage, would be a sad beating for the old warrior, etc, etc. Now it's over, and just because Evander used all his boxing experience and skill, to not only avoid taking even a slap let alone a beating, and land enough telling blows to win the majority of the rounds, he's being lambasted for it. Hey fellas, even Christmas time you can't have your cake and eat it. And TSS, you guys don't help with your choice of QON. Evander moved around the ring like a much younger man for twelve rounds, looked for openings and took them, never got hit badly once, but defromed Valuev's face numerous times, and was robbed of history in what should have been a glorious swansong for the legendary warrior king. All you other critics aren't fit to kiss his golden Georgian feet. Toonoy (suddenly not feeling festive anymore)
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 11:02:32 AM
LEROY:  WORST FIGHT IN PPV BOXING HISTORY. 'NUFF SAID.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 11:26:03 AM
Robert Curtis:  I agree with Radam about Ron's tone of sarcasm. Seems cruel to me. Very harsh and unforgiving of a legend who has given us so much. Even worse was Ron's December 16th column which read like an obituary about someone he didn't like. I think the Zurich judges read that column. Add plagiarism to their list of crimes.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 11:26:56 AM
DaveB:  I knew win, lose, or draw Holyfield would not quit boxing. I think that if there is a rematch Holyfield does have the potential to do better. I think Valuev has reached the his maximum potential, if you can call it that, and his best chance would be to score with a big punch, so I would favor Holyfied in another snoozer, maybe. These guys are to inconsistent at heavyweight to try to accurately predict anything anymore. Boxing has been shooting itself in the foot for years and this just adds to the list. Boxing doesn't have to worry about the MMA in the true sense, all it needs to do is look in the mirror.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 11:29:58 AM
G Mark :  There was an article written a year or so ago entitle "Boxing is Dead." It was in Esquire. I reacted very harshly to that article and its writer and cursed that rag and its writer aloud. Sadly, they were correct. Yesterday, 12/20/2008, was the day boxing died. Sing a song about it..."Bye, bye, Miss American Pie, drove my chevy to the levy...". Boxing died yesterday with that monumental atrocity they billed a title fight.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 11:30:07 AM
andy from newcastle:  Bobby C, Radam, I couldn't agree more. Still waiting for my comment "To Be Approved". Are we in Russia? Toonoy
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 11:51:33 AM
lenny:  I have one thing to say. A joke. This fight was a joke. I didn't pay for it though so who cares. I guess a rematch is in order. Give both guys $10 million and let them dance again. What a joke.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 12:32:27 PM
Allan:  They talk about Valuyev like he's so big. But he's really not that much bigger than most heavyweights. He was roughly the same size as Evander. I say they both should get it on again for a winner take all purse and the loser must retire.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 12:34:15 PM
andy from newcastle:  Sorry if this gets posted three times TSS world, but the technical crew need to sort out their glitches. Toonoy
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 12:43:09 PM
andy from newcastle:  Yakov, Krythme, thank you for giving Evander the credit many others are ignoring, for fighting an intelligent, calculated , and title winning fight. Before the bout most articles and comments were of the nature that this bout should not be sanctioned at all, Holyfield risked permanent damage, would be a sad beating for the old warrior, etc, etc. Now it's over, and just because Evander used all his boxing experience and skill, to not only avoid taking even a slap let alone a beating, and land enough telling blows to win the majority of the rounds, he's being lambasted for it. Hey fellas, even Christmas time you can't have your cake and eat it. And TSS, you guys don't help with your choice of QON. Evander moved around the ring like a much younger man for twelve rounds, looked for openings and took them, never got hit badly once, but defromed Valuev's face numerous times, and was robbed of history in what should have been a glorious swansong for the legendary warrior king. All you other critics aren't fit to kiss his golden Georgian feet. Toonoy (suddenly not feeling festive anymore)
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 12:43:30 PM
kfother:  THE FIX IS ON. This fight was the most shameful thing I have ever witnessed. I watched it live on Pay-Per-View. For those that didn't see it and love the sport of boxing, make sure you see the fight on youtube or wherever you can find it. Then make a point of screaming from the tallest mountain you can find that this was a CRIMINAL ACT!!! Valuev knew it... Holyfield knew it (this makes me so sad I still can't believe it), both of their corners knew it. Valuev cound be said maybe to have tied one round, and maybe to have won one round. Other than that, the other 10 rounds absolutely went to Holyfield... this is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of FACT. No one in the ring acted a bit surprised at the obviously corrupt decision. Anyone viewing this fight must agree that Holyfield and crew should have been hopping mad at the decision. But they looked subdued and resigned. THE FIX IS ON!! THE FIX IS ON!! Boxing fans better speak out to save this sport. I for one better see a big controversy, a big apology, and a big legal issue over this thing, or I will NEVER pay for another event. We have witnessed the beginning of the death of boxing. Go to the WBA official website and click on CONTACT US so you can demand an apology: wbaonline
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 01:44:37 PM
andy from newcastle:  Nearly three hours since I wrote and attempted to post my comment. What is going on TSS? Toonoy
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 02:44:43 PM
Jhonny:  It depends on the comment, Andy. Did you use profane language? It was likely not approved.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 02:47:11 PM
Radam G be Humble PRG eating Balut, Paapitan and Guinataong Alimasag in PI:  Wow! Maybe Prez Bush will use the last days of his power to pardon the WBC crooks for ripping off Holy. This was the biggest robbery of America, since the Barbary Coast Pirates seanapped some Yanky ships in the 19 century, and the Kanos sent in the Marines into "The Shores of Tripili" to take them back. The Pasha got his arse whupped. Hey! Just maybe boxing Bush will send the Marines into Switzerland to take Holy's stolen title belt. It won't be hard to find Value(less)v, the________. (Somebody else fill in the blanks. Ain't hating, I'm justing stating a fact. The antwacky giant was fightless.) Franky, I believe that Prez Bush could bushwack the Russian giant. The Prez got some moves. Never try to put a shoe ( and maybe a glove) on him. Holla!
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 04:00:04 PM
Scallon:  Why is everybody so oblivious to the fact that despite the fact that the fight was in Switzerland that the swiss boxing commision had nothing to do with it???????? The Swiss boxing commision will not sactioin a bout with a fighter over 35 years old. The only thing that the Swiss provided was the arena, it was the Austrian sationing body that sactioned the bout. I can't believe that this article was written by a "professional" The people were not even speaking swiss german at the event. And furthermore had it been the Swiss boxing commision it would have been very difficult for Holyfield to have lost, did you people not hear the cries for Holyfield in the arena??? what is wrong with you people learn the facts before you start stating your opinion, you will avoid looking fooling, and making fools out of others. Anyway Holyfield did win the fight he landed more power punches in each round than valuev landed punches period. It was a complete disgrace, but For crying out loud people The Swiss were completly behind Holyfield,
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:00:47 PM
snorch:  What is wrong with you people, there was not even a Swiss judeg, he was Swedish. I guess since most American can't even find their own country on a map that they would have difficulty with that. and What is with all of the Swiss cracks, It was the Austrians that Sactioned the bout. And maybe the US could take them as an example I mean sitting out a war, or at least...NOT STARTING A NEW ONE EVERY YEAR. And maybe if you mean that there is not much going on in zurich on a Saturday night you are right, there Are no Murders, few robberies, no racism, little vandalism, no vagrancy....about what you would expect from the city with the highest quality of life for a few years in a row.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:05:08 PM
Jim:  Great article...I almost fell out of my chair when I read Valuev's quote about how hard he worked to win against the "speedy" Holyfield...
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:10:33 PM
ElRoy:  I thought Holyfield did enough to win. Rumor has it the WBA will be stripping him on Monday and awarding the title to Holyfield. A good move on their part. Kudos to the WBA and 'Commander' for putting on the defining fight of his career.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:14:24 PM
2008 - the WORST year in boxing:  It was fitting for 2008 to end with this abysmal fight. In a year that was marked by BAD PPV's, questionable PPV's, horrid under-cards, terrible matchmaking at HBO (Showtime wasn't great but certainly outdid HBO), and a complete lack of direction with regard to these sanctioning bodies, this was the right way for a very bad year to end. A circus fight with a circus ending. Who were the judges, the bearded lady, the elephant man, and the lobster boy? I believe it was Christmas time a decade or so ago when Hamed and Kevin Kelley engaged in their memorable war at MSG. Those were the glory days. Holyfield was in the prime of his 2nd act, Lennox was at the peak of his powers, Roy Jones was the P4P king, Floyd Mayweather had just become a young outstanding champion after beating Genaro Hernandez, Mike Tyson was still providing grist for the mill, Arturo Gatti was engaging in wars, Felix Trinidad was at the height of his powers, Oscar was still relevant, Joe Calzaghe was a new champion plying his trade in Wales, a couple of large heavyweights with a difficult to pronounce name (Klitschko) were making waves in Germany, Marco Antonio Barerra and Erik Morales were at their respective peaks, a guy named Ike Ibeabuchi looked pretty darn good, etc, etc, etc. Look at the sport a decade ago and look at it now. Sad, very sad.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:30:27 PM
andy from newcastle:  Ah bollix. This is nonsense, I may as well just type it again. What annoyed me most about this report, is that all we heard before the fight was how this bout shouldn't even be sanctioned, Holyfield will suffer irrepairable damage, twelve round beating, blah blah blah. So then Evander boxes smartly, avoids even a slap let alone a beating, lands the only meaningful blows of the bout at every opening he sees, moves around the ring like a youngster for twelve rounds, and then proceeds not only to get robbed, but is slagged off for making it a boring fight, instead of getting killed. Holyfield is a legendary warrior, and his critics are not fit to kiss his Georgian feet. Toonoy (not feeling at all festive at the moment)
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:40:18 PM
andy from newcastle:  Nah Jhonny (like Gonzalez, cool). I don't use rude words, and I'm far less opinionated than many of my cyber buddies in TSS world. They are just having some technical difficulties that need fixing (like the fight). As you'll see my comment is now there, and after I'd just got bored and rewritten the thing (the rewrite now waiting for approval, ironically). Hey ho. Toonoy
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 05:49:07 PM
Kerry:  A terrific performance by Holyfield. A shame he was jobbed. He should be wearing the WBA title around his waist right now. In any event, his career best performances are as follows: (1) versus Tyson in their first fight (2) versus Bowe in their second fight (3) versus Valuev (4) versus Dwight Qwai and (5) versus Foreman.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 06:44:58 PM
Anony:  :::::: MMA SUCKS... WHY PEOPLE ALWAYS TRY TO COMPARE IT WITH BOXING??? ARE WE SUBLIMINARY GETTING INSTRUCTED TO MOVE TO MMA?? WHY?? BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE FOLLOWERS NOW AND WE NEED TO BE "ANOTHER ONE" OF THOSE FANS???.... I wish TSS and most of boxing websites get it straight. REAL BOXING FANS will stay in the sport even if we have to wait a full year for a big fight. MMA is not filling a hole in boxing, MMA is something very different that appeals to barbaric blood thirsty people who doesn't care a bit for boxing. They just want to see BLOOD AND LUCKY PUNCHES TO FUEL THEIR VIOLENCE INSIDE. BOXING FANS HAS CLASS, WE KNOW THERE IS MUCH MORE ATHLETISCM AND BRAIN POWER IN BOXING. It is sad to understand and realize we are being brainwashed to move to MMA or UFC.... I will never get seduced because everytime I watch one of those brawls... it makes me puke to watch two grown up men practicing kamasutra in the ring or winning by ONE LUCKY PUNCH FROM A KNEE OR AN ELBOW... that's disgusting. Even me can take down Valuev with my elbows or knees... there is no professionalism in that... GET IT!!!! STOP PUTTING DOWN MY BELOVED SPORT.... WRITE IT DOWN ALL OF YOU "BOXERS EXPERTS" AND BRAINWASHERS... WE ARE REAL BOXING FANS, WE DON'T NEED "THAT THING" CALL MMA OR UFC.
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 07:41:22 PM
Chris G:  Borges is correct on all counts. Sadly, no more correct than on this point: "If ever one wanted to make a case for the death of boxing all they’d have to do is sit people in a room for an hour and condemn them to watch a tape of what went on in Zurich Saturday night. By the time that tape was done running, MMA would have a new legion of fans ... "
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 08:06:58 PM
Real Talk:  Hey Radam !!! I was the first one to predist Holyfeild winning this fight and getting robbed . Anony ....you bleft a question mark at the end of your comment and didn't pick neither . Pete Steward picked Evander to LOSE !!! Where's the love Radam ??? Give the boy his props . Dueces
Sunday Dec 21, 2008 10:42:07 PM
Big Daddy:  BTW this was a WBA Title Fight.. Someone needs to pull their head out! Anyways,this CRUMMY "Fight" got what it deserved... A crummy decision.
Monday Dec 22, 2008 02:04:22 AM
Chris:  Hopefully Andrei Arlovski can come win all your lame titles.
Monday Dec 22, 2008 07:58:58 AM
Petey:  This was Evander Holyfield's finest hour, next to his title winning KO of Buster Douglas. This is the 2nd most significant fight of his career. A masterpiece. Perhaps his finest hour.
Monday Dec 22, 2008 10:16:57 AM
The puncher:  I thought this was supposed to be the sweet science....hit and avoid getting hit. Holly did it very well and showed that despite his age he has some gas in his tank. We must remember that he is 46 years old and doing what many other bums at his age can't do. That he has lost a lot...of course he has, but did what was required to win the belt and showed that he still can make things happen. Lets get real!!!!
Monday Dec 22, 2008 10:50:50 AM
bil major:  well "real talk" that makes 3 of us who said he'd win.
Monday Dec 22, 2008 02:17:19 PM
Ursula:  Watching Evander put on a CLINIC was invigorating. I believe his performance Saturday sealed his legendary status and thrust him to the top of the list of all time heavyweights. I felt like a YOUNG MAN again. That was the BEST performance in Holyfield's GLORIOUS career. It is his fight with Valuev that will be talked about 100 years from now. Holyfield's performance Saturday was his BEST EVER and when he's enshrined in Canastota, the fight they should show at the ceremony is his whipping of Valuev. Now, for the all time heavyweight list: (1) EVANDER HOLYFIELD (2) MUHAMMAD ALI (3) JOE LOUIS (4) LENNOX LEWIS (5) GEORGE FOREMAN.
Monday Dec 22, 2008 02:35:49 PM
trollman:  Having lived in germany as a foreigner for some years and watched all these events by Sauerland, it is really clear Sauerland and German boxing is rotten and corrupt. Like Raul Marquez said before facing Abraham-"you have to knock the guy out to get a draw over there" (he celarly lost though, to Abraham who is one of the genuine fighters and champions from Germany. But please, give him a challenge before he turns 40...). it is too often completely rigged events where the challenger is completely mismatched , but hyped up to ignorant viewers so that the german champion will look superior.(they have a tradition of that in germany i am sorry to say) I dont agree though that Holyfield did a bad job fighting Valuev. You have to understand it is like watching a lightweight fighting a light heavyweight. What Valeuv lacks in precision and all else, he compensates by simply physically exhaust his opponents with his body mass.I´ve seen a 25 yr old world ranked heavywieight destroyed by him in three rounds. Holyfield is 46 and boxed smart. I could hardly see any punch landed by valuev but several by Holyfield. I cant understand how Valuev could have won. the decision is sad for boxing and sad for both fighters; Valuev hangs in there as the freak everybody wants to see get knocked out, and this time they just made it last a little longer and get some more money out of the spectacle.
Monday Dec 22, 2008 03:56:26 PM
Smoke:  A true case of larceny. I will also complain to the governing bodies, although I am sure that our complaints will fall on deaf ears. Scallon and Snorch: please excuse some of our hillbilly folks that sometimes write in this blog. Of course it is the judges for this contest that are to blame. Just like it is certain governmental officials that like to dabble in wars and such. Most Americans do not care for wars, unless we are attacked first. Please people, let's not get so nationalistic in a prize fighting blog! Peace!!!
Tuesday Dec 23, 2008 06:08:02 AM
Radam G aka Humble PRG hanging out with the aboriginees of my homeland -- PI:  Real Talk, props straight up to you, too. Yo'a' da MAN! Holla!
Tuesday Dec 23, 2008 05:02:20 PM
andy from newcastle:  Ahem, Radam, Real Talk. Ceeeeerrrrrmmmmm oooonnnnnn EeeeeeeeVvvvvvvvvAaaaaaaaNnnnnnnDdddddddEeeeeeeRRRrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!. Toonoy
Tuesday Dec 23, 2008 05:35:41 PM
Brad:  Amen Kfother!! Enough of all of this crap. Ron I usually love your articles and have respected you for years. When you were the only one to predict Holyfield over Tyson you callled it like you saw it. Yeah the fight wasn't the greatest. When a seven foot behemoth won't fight what was Holyfield supposed to do. First there should be a super heavy division for a freak like this so props to Evander for even getting in the ringwith a guy almost 10 inches taller than him and nearly 100 lbs more than him! Boxing fans, TRUE BOXING FANS ONLY, need to go to the WBA's site and send them emails. This decision was a pure scam and anyone with boxing knowledge and half a brain knows that Evander won this fight EASILY....6-7 points at a minimum!! Screw the references to MMA and UFC....boxing is boxing but it is losing viewers and respect because of things just like this. If you truely care for boxing you will demand that this bogus and corrupt decision be overturned. If you sit by and say who cares then you get what you all deserve....the death of boxing.
Tuesday Jan 6, 2009 10:21:08 AM

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