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| The writer's seen a different side of Hopkins, and shares with readers some insights on a man that has a certain reputation as a hard character to deal with, in a sport rife with hard characters. Something to chew on, as you ponder FOTY. |
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The Side Of Bernard Hopkins NOBODY Knows
By Phil Woolever
RARE AIR - Bernard Hopkins is the Fighter of the Year, unless Manny Pacquio knocks out Oscar de la Hoya within five rounds, or unless Vitali Klitschko signs for a quick return and does the same to Nicolay Valuev.
In case either of those scenarios unfolds I'd consider a tie vote. But under any circumstances Hopkins merits top recognition after tackling Kelly Pavlik for a big loss fumble in classic Ohio State linebacker fashion, and arguably giving Joe Calzaghe enough previously unseen problems and angles to earn the nod on my biased tally and one of the official cards.
I had Hopkins beating Calzaghe, but I understand that watching on TV is nothing like being there. Still, when Bernard scored the first round knockdown I jumped off my sofa squawking, "I knew it!"
In case you haven't gathered, I'm a Hopkins fan.
Why? From a few private observations that make him special among the many top fighters I've been privileged enough to interact with. Call it displayed character.
However you look at it, in an environment that often rewards taking the safest route to a payday, Hopkins was what should be a role model of self confidence against a pair of undefeated, favored opponents. It says a lot about Hopkins's persona that he not only welcomed the assignments, but for the most part carried out both tasks to fulfilling fruition.
Hopkins is officially listed with a 75-inch reach, but taking into account everything he's managed to grasp as a boxer who embodies the term professional, you'd have to give him a proverbial mile for each centimeter. As a fighter, Hopkins has obvious character, too, but that's not what this piece is about.
It's about treating various staff persons at Desert Diamond Casino, whatever their position, like they were something special. The times Hopkins came to the desert as celebrity ambassador for Golden Boy Promotions, he went above and beyond. Through working on the Tohono O'odham Nation for 20 years I know a lot of employees or their families. Just about everyone, from security to food services, had a story about how Hopkins brightened their day.
More than that, this is about "The Executioner" hanging out with a group of multi-disabled students I know during a Tribal event far away from any media. Most of the kids, who showed up unannounced, lack physical motor skills or verbal ability. Hopkins devoted most of his attention to them. All I'm going to say is Hopkins, unpublicized, was great with them for an extended period. That type thing is hard to fake, especially around the Indians I know.
A couple days later, Hopkins was still affected by the stark reservation scenes.
"I've seen things from Philadelphia or in prison that make me wonder what people are put here for," said Hopkins. "What governments or social programs are for. This is still the USA but it's a different world. It really makes you think."
On another night, Hopkins remembered that my daughter's dog was ill. I guess he could tell it bothered me, because later in the evening he offered an optimistic narrative on the effects of pets on people.
On a lighter note, a couple years later I ran into Hopkins during a pre-dawn workout session in an LA hotel gym. He was helping a foreign tourist, who didn't know who he was, lift weights. You'd think he was the guy's personal trainer.
Later, in a thickly cranked steam room, we talked about a wide range of subjects, from coming back after the much publicized promise to his mother to the tall, micro-bikinied goddess at the neighboring pool.
Hopkins spoke about going into a training role after he was done fighting. We talked yoga, and Hopkins managed to keep a straight face while I attempted to balance my bloated belly in various positions.
Hopkins even offered investment advice. Considering the circles he ran with, I listened. Since my budget barely covered a car rental and I was crashing in a colleague's room, it remains an unexploited friendly gesture.
Hopkins wouldn't know me from hundreds of different faces he encounters.
That's my point. I've seen him be a decent guy to all sorts of people where there really wasn't anything in it for him. It's what makes anybody a positive participant in society.
I know enough realistic insiders who are much more familiar with Hopkins. I understand he's no saint, and I'm sure all kinds of people could list various transgressions.
I don't want to hear it. I just wanted to document my vote for Fighter of the Year.
Joe Calzaghe can wire all the PR he wants about not having to prove anything against Hopkins again. The only thing that proves to me is that Calzaghe's smart enough not to tempt such an uncertain fate twice.
Me, I'd love to see a rematch, for the selfish reason that I'll probably still be here in Europe, and I'm sure it would be an epic scene. That and I'll wager I could get some pretty decent odds on the American. At the very least, Hopkins has proved to be a worthwhile bet.
POSTSCRIPT: A closing note on classic 160 pounders is much sadder. John Peter Reiss was middleweight champion of Notre Dame in 1956, when the sport shared similar status with the gridiron. Reiss, my father in law, was killed by a stupidly stray shot from a neighboring range in Vermont, where an investigation is still pending. John, a retired English professor, was one of those old schoolers who always looked on the bright side of life and the sweet science. In his honor, I'm dedicating this forum to everyone I've met like Hopkins in the game, who make it easy to stay positive about the boxing scene. A pair of other good guys I'm going mention, with prayers for their health, are Chuck Bodak, Oscar's old cut man, and Willie Borchert, who was Louie "The Sharpshooter" Espinoza's manager and trainer. Regarding feedback, let's not consider subjects like Calzaghe-Hopkins 2 here. I'm hoping now is simply a good time for TSS's many thoughtful posters to look back and give a little love and tribute to anyone along the years who's done them right.
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robert dilig:
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the fight of pavlik and hopkins was just like the fight of pacquaio and david diaz or pacquaio vs edwin valero but there was a significant difference hopkins was backtracking and cliching a lot he should have been disqualified by the dumbest referee. pacquaio went toe to toe against diaz and knocked him out, hopkins was showing cowardness and fatigue against pavlik. pavlik and valero are the same (powerful but not smart) hopkins is smart but showing cowardness (just like mayweather jr.) by backtracking and clinching a lot and that's dangerous for the sport of boxing. most of the viewers want toe to toe fighting, want knockdowns and knockouts. pacquaio is not known for backtracking and clinching and can satisfy opponents by knocking them down or out. for me the best black fighters ever are marvin hagler and tyson. they showed bravery in the sport of brave people which is boxing. it's a shame to praise hopkins when it was pavlik who gave him victory by going forward but what if pavlik imitated the style of hopkins or mayweather jr. i think the fight would be booed or wouold turn out to be the dullest fight ever... just imagine if hopkins and mayweather jr. fight who would throw punch first? i think they will both run away from each other because they are known for their cowardness of getting hit. send my message to all boxing writers out there. i advised to spend your money on brave boxers like pacquaio, pavlik, hatton, de la hoya, valero and never on hopkins and mayweather jr. these two fighters are known for backtracking and that's cowardness. it's the reality!!!
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 04:59:05 AM
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Bernard:
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That's a good article, it's always great to hear the different side of any fighter specially the good side. I've always thought of negative things that were associated with Hopkins boxing career, but now I will thank you for sharing your experience with this man, specially things that were positive.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 06:28:18 AM
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Brad Lawson:
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Just one win and you consider Hopkins the fighter of the year? Wake up man! I know you're dreaming.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 10:31:02 AM
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Paul Taylor:
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Is this the same Hopkins who repeatedly yelled at Calzaghe I WOULD NEVER LOSE TO A WHITE PERSON? You have to wonder why he gets a free pass on such blatant displays of bigotry. Great fighter. Not such a great human being.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:15:20 AM
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Robert Curtis:
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I believe he said white "boy" not person and I think it was good entertaining pre-fight hype. Awww, all those poor little white people like Paul whom Hopkins offended so badly. My heart bleeds at the injustice. We should gets some white judge to send Hopkins back to prison just for thinking such blatantly bigoted thoughts, let those white deputy jailers order him around and shove him back into D-Block with all the bullies and incorrigibles, give him a real attitude correction. What do you think? Will that make you happy, Paul?
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:35:39 AM
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Pete Steward:
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robert dilig You 're obviously a B-HOP & PBF Hater. And have no respect for defensive boxers & counter punchers.Cowardness? Hopkins has fought the best for the last 15 years. And beaten all but a few of them. What you call bactracking is moving backwards to set up the opponent for counter shot. hatton delahoya and now pavilk are all victims to this form cowardness. hatton & delahoya winding getting KNTFO by B-HOP & Money and Manny (Who I love) barely got out his war with a from the defensive brillance of Marquez. Great Boxers usually beat Great sluggers. As for Cowardness. How about a NATURAL MIDDLEWEIGHT Fighting a NATURAL LIGHTWEIGHT! AT 147LBS This DECEMBER 6! NOW THAT'S A COWARD. And I'm still taking lightweight in that fight BY KO!Your reality needs a serious check.
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Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:40:06 AM
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AG:
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I agree 100% with everything in this article, after a couple of in depth conversations with Mr. Hopkins in LA earlier this year. He is smart, intuitive about people, has the courage of his convictions, and is certainly not shy about expressing his feelings on topics he is passionate about. What a nice surprise to also discover he is also courteous, charming and just generally pleasant to be around socially.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:43:26 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Wow! Big Bobby C is ticked off. Watch it, Paul! Nice piece, Fightwriter Phil da Kill. That story was a KILLER! It's should kill a lot of the hate and wrong thinking about B-Hop. I'm glad that you weaved together a view of hurt business gentleman. There are far too many stereotypes about boxers because of the hype leaving up to the fight. Now to a different subject. Manny is going to finish off Big Money Oscar in round seven. Just about everything on BMO will be broke after the bout. Oscar's bank account will be the only thing not broke. He and and his love ones' and friends' heart will be broke. They all believe that BMO can do it. But, NO! He can no long pull the trigger. And PacMan fast guns will quickdraw BMO stupid. Holla!
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:53:22 AM
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Son of Sam Peter:
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Fighter of the Year?! Am I dreaming of reading TSS in my sleep??
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:53:30 AM
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mortcola:
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The "white boy" comment was hype, role-playing. I always thought Hopkins way overdid that nonsense, but to take it seriously? That's silly. Hopkins has been known as a bastard in negotiations, a trash-talker in pre-fight hype, and as a thoughtful gentleman in real life. The truth combines all three.
About Robert Dilig and his "cowardness" comment: Boxing is defined in one classic way as the art of hitting and not being hit. Hopkins is a master at being near enough to land his shots, but making the other guy swing at air and distrust his own rhythm. Sometimes, like every well-trained fighter, he clinches and does so effectively. He did it too much in his last few fights, but not from "cowardness", but as a way of conserving energy and, again, breaking up the rhythm of busier fighters. But to ask for punishment, to be "brave", to always try and prove your chin, and stand there and trade, is the sign of a dumb fighter, or a fighter who simply can't make the other guy miss and land his own shots, or a guy who knows he will always get the better of the exchange. Those guys lose tragically, talk funny and become sad stories after a few years. Hopkins has the art of defensive boxing and counterpunching mastered to a degree that probably surpasses any other fighter in the last few decades. And he has done so while also proving that he takes a good shot when he has to. As dull as his last few fights were, until the Pavlik beatdown, anyway, he still deserves serious respect.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 11:58:13 AM
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rudy:
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I guess B-Hop staring all of the boxing media after the fight really got to them, EVERYONE AND THEIR MAMA all of sudden loves Hopkins.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 12:02:19 PM
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Ron Lyle Menendez:
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FOTY?? Off of an overwhelming loss to Calzaghe and a win over an ill-suited 170 pound fighter in Pavlik?? Are you kidding me? So he was nice to some strangers. That's just decency. I don't commend people for doing what's right. But FOTY off of a 1-1 year? Calzaghe landed more and at a higher percentage. Bernard looked to quit. You can make NO case that he won that fight. If he's FOTY, it's boxing's worst year ever.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 12:05:00 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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Phil da Kill, your piece was so nice that I had to read it twice. (So much for Robert Dilig.) I see a lot of people are thinking about Dec. 6, and also what Dr. Vitali k did. Well -- everybody knows me -- it is time to clown! B-Hop was sipping from the fountain of youth or somethin'. It won't B-working for his partner Big Money O. There will B-no beating of Manny "PacMan" aka "AGOAT" -- Asia Greatest of all time -- Pacquiao. I'm gonna' put on a shadow disguise of B-Hop and hang around him long enough to get his fountain of youth. That's right! I'm gonna' Pinoynap -- better than a kidnap (or is that oldnap) -- that sucka' and drain it. No sips for Golden Oldie Oscar. Besides, I'm tired of all these new tricks of the old trade. Paulie M using weaved hair trick tactics, instead of bobbing and weaving. Hitman Hatton stepping up his game with magical shoelaces, instead of lacing with the gloves. Dr. Vitali K using quackery with his toddler son's pee pee on Doc handwraps. I guess that he has invented the pee pee punch. (It'll make you go to the stool, lmao.) And B-Hop sipping on the fountain of youth instead of a 40 -- 40-ounce bottle of beer. What's next! Superman RJJ pumps Plumber Joe -- my bad! I mean -- slaps Slappy Joe. (A Pinoy BIG, BIG GRIN!) Holla!
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 12:30:37 PM
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theboyb901:
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When everyone talked about Hopkins being washed up and needs to retire, that was OKAY.
But when something positive is about HOPKINS, it's a problem.
But we spent all the time in the world hyping Kelly Pavlik's overrated a**!
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 12:52:25 PM
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Condor:
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Mr. Woods, with all due respect to Mr. Woolever, for whom I am a fan, you need to send him in for a urinalysis right away. Bernard Hopkins Fighter of the Year? Was this a satire piece? Paul Taylor brings up a legitimate point. If Calzaghe had said "I'll never lose to a black man", or something to that effect, he'd have been pilloried, lambasted, and EXILED. He'd have been branded a racist. But for B-Hop it's acceptable and cast aside as humorous and innocuous. Now, I tend to agree that it SHOULD be that way, but that's not the reality. There's a double standard, and that's what I took from TSS reader Paul Taylor. I think it's great that B-Hop was kind to strangers. But since when do we shower kudos on someone for simply being a courteous and decent person. Or, simply put, pat him on the back for NOT being an @$$. That's a pretty low bar. Hopkins is remarkable, no question about it. But he's NOT Fighter of the Year.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 01:06:42 PM
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Yuvie:
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Fighter of the year? Are you joking me? He has a tremendous win over what some would still call a green fighter and a loss. I give the man all respect for how he dealt with Pavlik but no way does that make him fighter of the year. If anything, if Pacquiao loses to Oscar, then surely (If he beats Darchinyan) Mijares is the most obvious choice. If he wins, and I expect him to, then he's pretty much unified the super flyweight division. Can't argue with that....Navarro, Munoz, Sasakul (Yeah, I know he's shot) & Darchinyan. Knowing my luck, Vic will probably knock Mijares out now.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 01:31:15 PM
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Aaron:
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Roy Jones Jr. against Delahoya or Floyd Mayweather Jr. at a catch weight as a farewell bout?
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 01:37:18 PM
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Yuvie:
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These boxing writers are getting carried away with Hopkins at the moment. You show no recognition to the lighter weights. If it's not Hopkins as FOTY, it'll probably be the winner of Calzaghe/Jones. Instead of glorifying Hopkins win every day, lets have some hype for fights like Mijares/Darchinyan or Molitor/Caballero.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 01:40:46 PM
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Porcupine:
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Green fighters don't beat top fighters Yuvie. No green fighter can beat Jermain Taylor. Give he old man and Palvik their props already brother!
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 01:43:31 PM
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rudy:
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Exactly how I feel Yuvie, those are great bouts you mentioned but what about this Friday's bout between Andrade against Bute for a Title at 168?!?! Both of those guys are fun as hell to watch and no doubt the winner will be a MAJOR player at the loaded Super Middleweight Division. Like I said earlier, Hopkins win was AMAZING, not knocking him or disrespecting him, but there are other things happening in the boxing world -- you can only read about the same thing so many times until it gets annoying as f**k. Kinda like Radam G and his Pac-Man obsession.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 02:19:02 PM
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Smiley C:
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The bout between Hopkins and Pavlik will be the upset of the year for 2008. Hopkins kicked Slappy Joe's behind. And the "white boy" comment was for play-acting to get boneheads like Condor to pay to see. It is called the hurt business, not play nice so nobody feelings will be hurt. Big boneheads always come to see pretended hate, especially racial hate. B-Hop's no racist. And if Slappy Joe was living in 1908, instead of 2008, he would have called B-Hop the N-word and black this and that to get butts in those seats, as British Empire Tommy Burns did before getting giant slapped by Jack Johnson. Johnson was 6'1 and Burns was 5'5, but listed at 5'7. Fo' sure!
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 02:28:51 PM
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nick:
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ya i hope hopkins gets the fighter of the year he should get it after deralling the pavlik express lol...
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 02:52:17 PM
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Salt lover:
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Yeah, yeah, yeah whatever. B-Hop to me will always be a typical athlete who, just like Floyd Mayweather Jr, CRAVES FOR THE ATTENTION, that's all. He talks about things of his life and his past and really that's not important. We're not Hollywood directors or writers, this is about boxing and fights. He defeated a good undefeated fighter in Pavlik, but it was just not Pavlik's weight to be fightin' to begin with. Truth of the matter is Calzaghe would beat him again, and Jones too. Dawson, is unclear to me, but B-Hop is NO legend. He's a great fighter using wits and energy conservation that's all. And about 2008 FOTY I would put Antonio Margarito for SHUTTING UP almost ALL THE MOUTHS and ERASING ALL TYPERS who were SOOOOOOOO sure about Cotto "winning" the fight. Fight of the Year either R. Marquez-Vazquez III or some of the bouts Yuvie just mentioned. And the Most RIDICULOUS Fight in the History of Boxing: De la Hoya-Pacquiao. Yeah, undisputedly the most STUPIDEST event ever made in the history of the sport.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 02:58:31 PM
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rooibos:
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FOTY? tsk! tsk! nuthugging to the highest level. B-HOP is worthy of praise but not worship...
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 05:42:43 PM
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Condor:
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Smiley C, did you say that Hopkins kicked Slappy Joe's behind?? In what world do you live? Specifically, how did you score the fight? Spell it out. From 1-12, how did you score it? Calzaghe landed twice as many punches and at a higher connect percentage. Oh, BHop did score a flash knockdown in round 1. That must be your reasoning. Even giving Hopkins a 10-8 1st round, he still was blown out. Who tried to quit in the late rounds?? I think Smiley C is Bernard Hopkins. Hey Bernard, GREAT win on Saturday! But you didn't beat Joe.
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 06:19:00 AM
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Robert Curtis:
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I can understand how people might tire of this kind of praise for a respected old timer. There are many neglected young fighters who can't get a match and whose skills remain unknown outside of their local gyms. TSS should try to include an extra piece now and then about up and comers, maybe help some new prospects get their foot in the door. TSS does this a bit already, I know. But how about a little more? The politics of the fight game are tough to crack in the best economic times.
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 10:02:21 AM
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leon:
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condor you are a tool bernard hopkins was robbed against calzaghe...bernard landed the harder punches and he landed more punches...you are an idiot where do you come up with calzaghe landed more punches than bernard...bernard outworked him and threw more and landed more and scored a knockdown...bernard didnt try to quit he got hit low by a dirty joe calzaghe...that fight wasnt even close...i had it 11 rounds to 1 in favor of bernard with the 1st being 10-8...anyone who knows boxing knows bernard won that fight by a landslide.
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 10:46:22 AM
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Similey C:
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Condor, enjoy the days. Superman RJJ will leap slap the greatest slapper of all times, Slappy Joe. Talk to me then. Fo' sure!
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 11:10:15 AM
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BULLDOG:
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LOL@ all demics slating JC....slappy joe managed to slap Hopkins into taking a knee and feigning low blows, RJJ will without doubt get the same reception and result as his homeboy. Hopkins....fight of the year, and that beats Margarito does it...well i guess it does if ya a yank. The ol flump RJJ couldnt send Trinidad flying so on that basis alone he better hope his super powers help him reach his bed after taking a whoooopin. Lets hope American boxing improves more than its fan bases demic level.....both could do wi a face lift.
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 11:38:18 AM
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Real Talk:
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Street Proverb : Some People who seem to be the most Vicious can also be the most reasonable . Just because you GO HARD doesn't mean you don't have a heart , and compassion . Peace
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 10:16:22 PM
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Dr. Votts:
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1st. Honorable mention Antonio Margorito . 2nd . Great comment Mortcola , you did a lot of my work for me . This guy up top Robert Dilig is obviously from the Pavlik camp or a fan , might even be Pavlik himself . Anyway what fight were you watching ??? How much cowardice was it when Hop was jumping in Pavlik's chest peicing him up ???? How much cowardice was it when he was digging in Pavlik's $h!t . I saw a big can of whoop, you get the picture . Don't get mad cuase your man wasn't good enough to back that talk up. And hopkins did a Pacman and ate that right like a oatmeal cream pie . You real salty right now ...but it's ok Pavlik will be back . Just man up and deal with that L , it happens to the best of them . Shalom
Thursday Oct 23, 2008 10:31:23 PM
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You Have To Take The Test To Be Called The Best
"People can say whatever they like about Floyd Mayweather Jr....and they will....but they can never say the man challenges himself to be the best." ---TSS All-Star reader El Feroz weighs in on who he thinks is at blame for the Manny-Money negotiation flameout
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