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Thursday Oct 9, 2008

Evander didn't look totally horrid against Ibragimov. But that was 14 months ago. Can he look any better than that against Valuev? Doubtful.

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HOLYFIELD: Too Proud, Or Too Broke?

By Ron Borges

Christmas will come early for Evander Holyfield this year and the song most befitting what’s on his wish list is “Blue Christmas,’’ because that’s what it’s going to be for him. A black-and-blue Christmas to be specific.

      If Holyfield goes through with his plans to challenge WBA heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev Dec. 20 in Germany for what even Holyfield admits will be the least amount of money he’s ever earned for a title fight, it will be a reminder of the one sure bet in boxing - it always ends badly.

      Boxing is the cruelest sport. It elevates a few of its practitioners to absurd levels of fleeting fame and fortune early in life and later beats them down as another, younger man beats them up to win the same illusion. There are many admirable things about boxers and many wonderful things about the sport, including its savage artistry, but one of those things is not the sight of another too-old former champion trying to hang on for one more payday.

      Evander Holyfield doesn’t want to admit it but that’s what he’s doing. He will be 46 on Oct. 19, an age that would make him the oldest heavyweight champion in boxing history if he were to find a way to defeat the 7 foot, 320-pound Valuev, which he will not. It would make him older than George Foreman was when, at 45, he cold-cocked Michael Moorer with one straight right hand to lift the spirits of middle-aged men around the world 14 years ago, but there is a significant difference between Foreman and Holyfield.

      Holyfield became the greatest heavyweight of his time because he was a relentless warrior, one willing and able to take obscene amounts of punishment for the opportunity to deliver more of it back round after round. Foreman, on the other hand, was a one-punch knockout guy, a fighter who was blessed with the gift of concussive force so powerful that it could render an equally big  man unconscious from one brief encounter with the end of his fist. Such power always gives you a chance because punching power is the last thing to desert a fighter.

      Holyfield has never had that kind of power because he is a normal sized guy trapped in a world of giants. He became one of the greatest heavyweight of all time because he knew how to fight, was always ready and willing to fight and because he had more fight in him (plus superior hand speed and a better chin) than anyone else he was in with most of the time. On the few nights when that wasn’t the case he usually had more heart and so that saw him through.

      But that was more than a decade ago when, at 34, he twice destroyed the myth of Mike Tyson. Three years later a shadow of what he once was still twice went the distance against a giant named Lennox Lewis, a guy who would be a midget if standing next to Valuev today.

      The relevant facts then are these:

      * Holyfield is 6-6-1 in his last 12 fights.

      * He is 1-4-2 in his last seven title fights.

      * He has not defeated an opponent of significance since he beat John Ruiz eight years ago and, truth be told, he’s 1-1-1 against him, a guy who is 0-2 against Valuev.

      Those facts say nothing about Valuev, who is a painfully pedestrian fighter on his best days. But this is not about Valuev. It is about what is important. It is about what Evander Holyfield is not.

      * He is not, any longer, a top heavyweight.

      * He is not, any longer, a ticket seller.

      * He is not, any longer, a fighter with a future.

      * He is not, any longer, a guy who can convince a top trainer to believe in him as a viable heavyweight fighter.

      * He is not, most importantly, what he thinks he still is.

      What he is, sadly, is what Joe Louis was at the end and Sonny Liston was at the end and Jack Johnson was at the end. He is Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Julio Cesar Chavez, Thomas Hearns, Willie Pep and oh so many others at the end. He is a sad imposter, a guy who can’t quit because he can’t see what he’s become and won’t see it until he leaves an arena wearing sunglasses at midnight.

      Maybe he’s doing it for the money, which he denies, because that’s how most of these guys end up in the end - fighting for money rather than for glory. Holyfield claims that’s not the case but he was the subject of a near foreclosure on his massive home a few months back and was sued for back child support payments which, if you understood the guy you would  know is the last thing he’d come up short on if he could help it.

      Holyfield had an explanation for all these things as he always does but there’s no explaining why his long-time trainer Don Turner refuses to work with him any more and now Ronnie Shields has done the same. That’s why he’s looking for a new trainer. He’s looking because they not only see what he cannot but they have told him what they see.

      They see he’s grown old at the most dangerous address in sports and they don’t want to be there on the night it all goes blindly bad.

      You get old in the major leagues and at the worst you’re like poor Willie Mays staggering around under flyballs he used to catch with his eyes closed while in the outfield of the New York Mets.

      You get old in football and you’re Joe Namath with the Rams, unable to deliver a ball to an open receiver quickly enough and hence ending up on your head.

      You get old in basketball and you’re Dr. J unable to elevate or Walt Frazier no longer able to make the pass at the right moment.

      You grow old in boxing and you’re a senior citizen being mugged. Big difference.

      Holyfield doesn’t see that even though in his last outing 14 months ago even he admits he couldn’t out box a journeyman champion named Sultan Ibragimov, a fighter who won all but three rounds against Holyfield and four months later lost nearly every round against IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko.

      He doesn’t see it even though six years ago he lost all but three rounds to Chris Byrd, who has since been knocked out by a light heavyweight.

      He doesn’t see it even though he was .500 against Ruiz seven years ago and Ruiz is 0-2 against Valuev, the latest loss coming in August.

      Holyfield claims he has a shot against a giant even though he has always struggled against big men, losing twice to Riddick Bowe and doing no better than a loss and a draw that the world declared was a robbery of poor Lewis when they squared off in 1999. In other words, against his two biggest opponents of any significance Holyfield came away 1-3-1 and that was more than a decade ago.

      Once there was a time when Nikolay Valuev could have been eight feet tall and weigh 400 pounds and he wouldn’t have lasted long with Evander Holyfield. He would have been hit so often and so accurately he would have toppled over from exhaustion, a skyscraper imploding from the beating of a wrecking ball.

      Those times are gone. Today Valuev remains little more than a circus act with an improved jab but what Evander Holyfield has become is a rerun of so many sad boxing stories.

      Certainly Holyfield believes he will win. If he watches tape of the ponderous Valuev he will see his many flaws and know how to take advantage of them. In his mind he will see the Evander Holyfield that once shone so brightly doing all manner of things to Nikolay Valuev never once realizing that that Holyfield is gone now and isn’t coming back.

      The one who is isn’t really Evander Holyfield at all. He’s just what’s left of him.



TSS super middleweight champion donputo69:  I say he's too broke...but its ok...the way the economy is right now, it doesn't hurt to make a lil extra pe$o$ right now...holla back!!!
Thursday Oct 9, 2008
pete:  Thanks. This was an excellent article. It hit the bull's eye.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008
DaveB:  There needs to be an organization to take care of boxers just like in other sports. These guys are fighters not accountants. I know a lot of people won't feel sorry for these guys especially the ones who earn fortunes, but they need someone to help guide them along the way so this doesn't happen.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008
Danny:  Gaawwwwd daaaaayum, this whole story was harsh on Evander, but sometimes the truth hurts i guess. i'm always down for the underdog, so i hope to god Holyfield can pull out the real deal just once more. it's a damn shame how things go, but unfortunately nuthin good or bad lasts forever. man i hope Evander reads this, and it fires him up to prove everybody wrong. upsets have been on flow lately though, i mean Amir Khan and more recently Kimbo Slice......and hopefully a upset soon to be Joe Calzaghe....just because so many seem to be doubtin on Jones JR, which to me is crazy Y'all musta Forgot. peace +DjK+
Thursday Oct 9, 2008
Go RAYS!:  Sonny Liston was a great fighter, up until the end. Ask Chuck Wepner (and his doctor who applied the 100 stitches).
Thursday Oct 9, 2008
Real Talk :  shh.... Valuev's a bum anyway. I got Holyfeild giving him a run for his money. I think this will turn to a wrestling match when Holyfeild starts to tag'em. He might have slowed down but who's slower than Valuev. I got Holyfield whoopin Valuev and getting robbed. Valuev UD
Thursday Oct 9, 2008
Marc :  “Three years later a shadow of what he once was still twice went the distance against a giant named Lennox Lewis” you say he went the distance like he was in either fight? It was a miracle he got a draw in the first place, it was as one sided as they come but for all the criticism I say let the man fight, let him earn his living, he may not have much left but whatever he does have left let’s hope he leaves it in the ring.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
rudy:  Valuev's team pretty much dismissed Evander as an opponent. Props to them for not going through with this.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Tony Cardinale:  This is a pipe dream of Holyfield whose desperation unfortunately lead his people to the completely corrupt WIlfried Sauerland. Problem for both, the WBA would not sanction this bout in a million years, and rightfully so. Clearly, Sauerland wants a body (like he has done throughout Valuev's career). He will have to wait for the WBA's ruling on the cheating that went on in Valuev's corner (they got the official scores througout the fight) before arranging any defense, because he may not have a title when the dust settles.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Isaiah:  Evander's last win was against Lou Savarese. He struggled in that. Isn't Holyfield done yet? Great warrior, stand down. Enjoy retirement. I'm telling you all one thing though. No matter what. He's earned the right to fight as long as he can. I have always been a fan, but it's up to him. I can't support him though, not anymore. Just retire man. Live life beyond boxing. It's time.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
pete steward:  Ron your so FULL OF IT! You probably said the same thing about Foreman before he KO'D MOORE! I''ll never bet against The REAL DEAL!
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Krhyme:  Word is this fight isn't happening... Valuev's people claim to know nothing about it and have been negotiating a fight for Dec. 6th with someone else.... I sincerely hope thats the case... I grew up worshipping Holyfield... I'd hate to see him take another beating...
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Robert Curtis:  I doubt Evander is broke. He may be too proud and stubborn to downsize (both his real estate holdings and his ring dreams). At this point in his career, Evander will have mostly bad nights in the ring. Almost none of the old stuff will be at his command. He'll be a target , a medium-sized heavy bag with feet. The Russian will plug and plug at him and pile up points. There's a rare chance Evander might be feeling better than usual. He could make Valuev look bad for a few rounds. But ultimately it will be a long painful night for Evander and his fans alike.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
paulbo:  As long as Holyfield passes the physicals, let him fight! It's not up to me or you how he makes his living. Truth is, he still can beat some fighters. He was on a two- or three-fight winning streak just a while ago before he ran into Ibragimov. Holyfield's not what he used to be, but he's still better than a lot of guys out there. Should they retire, too? Of course not. All we can do is wish him well.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
FightFanWest:  I'm a huge Evander Holyfield fan but I hate to say it that there's no way he can beat this 7'0 giant. Holyfield is tired after round 3 in all of his fights. He has taken too much punishment over the years. Upsets do happen but this is not one. He's not 39 or 40. He is a 46 year old man who has fought for 30 years are more taking serious punishment, either in real fights or sparring. If he fights he should fight guys like Delahoya is doing, guys he's much bigger then and older guys. The senior tour..He's not on that level to be fighting with his declined skills. Sad story but true.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Radam G aka Humble PRG :  Darn, Super Fightwriter Ron B! That was cold! Gosh! You whoopa whopped Holy like PacMan is going to do Oscar. Matter of fact what you wrote is spot on Holy and Goldy -- sorry, Oscar! They must be twin soulmates. Not only can Holy not pull the trigger, Father Time has stolen his guns, and sprayed him with senile lotion. And with all that said, the heavys are pitiful. Maybe Holy can tricked Father Time into tricking youth long enough to land a Sunday punch. Father Time hooked up Big George a while back. Just maybe he will do the same for Holy. Wow! Another grill peddling heavyweight champion. I love it. Holla!
Friday Oct 10, 2008
959 Santa:  Evander was living like a prince in America at one time.Evander may not be broke but it's likely he is living like a poor man does with so many mouths too feed. Plus times that by two. 9 or 10 un wed mothers. 9 or 10 kids, who knows maybe more. Evander should fight Valuev. Evander does need the money he's got 18 or 20 mouths to feed that's beside himself. Evanders a corporation living on a shoestring budget. At least if Evander fights Valuev he can avoid the rations. Hey a couple hundred thousand for getting your head beat in a few more times. What the hell it's only so so thousand of brain cells Evander will never use anyways. Why Not fight Valuev. Go Evander!
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Robert Curtis:  Evander was a great game warrior who would have been a top contender in any era and was certainly a true champion in his own. He belongs in all boxing history books and halls of fame. I'd love to see him find another road and other tasks to devote himself too. He has such energy and spirit to share. I wish he would preserve his health and find a new way to engage and impact the world which doesn't include boxing. The hurt business can only hurt him now. When I think of the greatest, the first two names that come to my mind are always Ali and Ray Robinson. Both stayed too long in boxing and gave up their good health because of it. Their years in the ring were glorious, but their declining years were full of trudging and the results of accumulated trauma. What's so frustrating is that I believe Evander has always had good advisors, both in his boxing and with his finances. I'm sure his intimate friends and advisors have begged him to stop as early as fifteen years ago. What's so scary and potentially ironic is that Evander might deck Valuev with some perfect punch. But he's courting a rest home and playing chicken with some serious health issues.
Friday Oct 10, 2008
Lonce:  Stylistically, I think this is a great match-up for Evander. Yes, he's 46 and yes he's not quite what he used to be, but wisdom and experience would carry the day for him in this fight. Valuev is a big, lumbering heavyweight. I think Evander get hit almost nil and would unleash a terrific assault on Niko's midsection. It appears that Valuev's people want no part of Evander however. That's a shame, because I think we'd see a great sporting headline all across the major publications of the world: HOLYFIELD KO'S GIANT VALUEV TO BECOME THE OLDEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION IN HISTORY
Saturday Oct 11, 2008
Smiley C:  I say let the old fart fight. If he passes all the tests, let him bang. Fo' sure!
Saturday Oct 11, 2008
Anonymous user:  umm....tyson was done after 1990...holyfield did not beat the prime tyson...he beat the shell of his former self...tyson beat tyson a long time ago....
Saturday Oct 11, 2008
manboobs the great:  If Vander wants to fight, let the man fight. I don't think he will beat Valuev but untill HE realizes this nobody will tell him any different. He needs to go back to the Texas tour and take on guys that he can beat. I just hope he doesn't fight an aggressive guy that will punish him for 12 rounds because we all know he won't quit. Everyone, go to youtube now and watch him take apart Tyson in thier first fight. Look at how he fought and ask yourself when was the last time you saw him fight that well, it's been a long time.
Sunday Oct 12, 2008
Robert Curtis:  Hey, anonypuss, don't take Evander's victory over Tyson away. Tyson really hadn't fought anyone real ever before, except maybe an old Larry Holmes. Evander wasn't the biggest or the best boxer he faced, but he was the best heavyweight warrior of his time. Tyson was good, but come on, Ali would have played with him like a catnip toy.
Sunday Oct 12, 2008
Gibola:  Holyfield truly was a great fighter, pound-for-pound, but he was a level below the great heavyweights. He was inconsistent, Lewis and Bowe had his number and an ancient Larry Holmes gave him fits. A peak Tyson would have flattened him and a peak Holmes would have schooled him. I realise in the USA people may not like to admit it but Holyfield was not the best heavy of his era - Lewis was. Holyfield, Bowe and Moorer avoided Lewis like the plague in the mid-90s. Once Manny Steward got with LL he was the best heavy fighting the best opponents - it just took Holyfield a few years to be forced to fight him. Holyfield is a great fighter who I admire hugely - but he was not the best heavyweight of his (or any other) era.
Monday Oct 13, 2008
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  Not so! Holy always had Iron Mike Tyson's number. Even in the amateurs, Holy would beat Mike silly in sparring sections. Everybody else was scared to spar with Mike, even Lewis who would come from Canada seeking sparring work. Lewis's guts toward Mike came in the pros, when Mike was wrecked and really to be knocked out by any live body. But, one again, Holy could always take the Iron. He would rust it. Holla!
Monday Oct 13, 2008

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