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De La Hoya-Pacman Cruise Whittier Boulevard
By David A. Avila
EAST LOS ANGELES-Two words Mexicans want to hear: Free tacos!
After the last of the cross-country press conferences to hype the Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao showdown was held under the somewhat famous Whittier Boulevard East Los Angeles arch on Tuesday, it was the East L.A. fighter’s shout for free grub that shocked the more than 5,000 people.
“Really! Free tacos for anyone who says my name for the next two hours at King Taco,” said De La Hoya to the joyous crowd.
Also added to spice up a show that didn’t need spicing was comedian George Lopez, a good buddy of De La Hoya’s and a fellow East L.A. native.
If you’ve never been to East L.A.’s Whittier Boulevard, it reminds some people of Brooklyn with its streets and buildings, but not as large. There are a lot of stories derived from the Boulevard over the last several decades.
When De La Hoya was growing up as a kid the days of cruising were just about over. It was on this same Whittier Boulevard that dozens of car clubs comprised of low-rider cars with hydraulic lifts and expensive paint jobs would traverse back and forth on the strip between Atlantic Boulevard on the east and Eastern Avenue on the west, looking to show off their rides or meet the other sex.
It was a colorful time with thousands of people coming from all over the Southwest to engage in cruising the Boulevard. You could meet girls and guys from El Paso, Albuquerque, Denver, Salt Lake City and Tucson on any given weekend.
But it was a Southern California tradition that was bolstered by high school kids who belonged to a number of car clubs with names like Thee Imperials, New Life, Groupe, Klique, Sons of Soul, New Breed, Orpheus, The Nomads and Volksmen to name a few.
Up and down Whittier Boulevard the cars would drive. Sometimes on a crowded night it would take almost two hours to go three miles from Atlantic to Eastern Ave. The alternative was to park on the street and meet with fellow club members or friends from the neighborhood to check out everyone.
Not all was innocent.
There were always shootouts, gangbangs, knifings going on between rivals or emanating from the small bars and cantinas that are strewed along the strip. More than once I dodged an errant bullet meant for somebody else. More than a few times fights broke out that exploded from one-on-one to suddenly mushroom to 30 on 30 and more.
It was kind of a stream of consciousness moment while De La Hoya and others spoke about the upcoming fight in Las Vegas. On the south side of the street was a bar that I remember parking in front on a Saturday night and a couple of guys stepped out of the darkness. One guy was holding up the other and I couldn’t really get a glimpse of the slumping guy’s face. As they got closer I could see that the slumping guy had no face. Somebody had taken a razor to it and sliced it in about a dozen vertical pieces. He was trying to hold his face together.
Another time in 1970, a rally against the Vietnam War erupted into a riot with several people killed including the first Mexican-American journalist to work for the L.A. Times, Ruben Salazar. Almost every building on the block was burned, bricked or pillaged.
Episodes like this happened all the time on the Boulevard.
About 1979, after numerous complaints from merchants, the County and Sheriff’s Department shut down the Boulevard to cruisers. Ironically, at the historic Golden Gate Theater, the movie Boulevard Nights was playing. It was a Hollywood-made motion picture depicting the Whittier Boulevard scene, but not very accurately.
At the time of the closure, De La Hoya was probably six years old and in the first grade up the street at Humphrey’s Elementary.
After two years of looking for a new cruising place, cruising dried up. The only thing to look forward to doing was watching a chunky Mexican kid named Fernando Valenzuela lead the Los Angeles Dodgers to the World Series and victory against the New York Yankees in 1981.
Valenzuela was the toast of East L.A. and anywhere that Mexicans, Mexican-Americans or self-named Chicanos lived. When his career ebbed in the late 1980s that’s when a youngster from Garfield High School in East L.A. picked up the gauntlet to carry the torch that El Toro had held.
De La Hoya’s gold medal win in the 1992 Olympic games in Barcelona was huge in this unincorporated city of nearly 400,000 people. The U.S. Census says 250,000 but they can’t get the accurate number when many are afraid of “la Migra.”
Though many Mexicanos, especially first and second generation, despised De La Hoya. It was the third, fourth, fifth generation Mexicans and up that took a liking to the East L.A. kid because he represented them in a good light for once. Not some drunken rowdy whose only claim was he could knock a guy out.
Plus, he won plenty of world titles and didn’t even look like he’s ever been hit.
Now he faces Pacquiao, a fighter who dismantled the seemingly unbeatable Mexican Triumvirate Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez. Who can stop this Filipino slugger known as Pac Man?
“Only God knows,” said Pacquiao, a humble and honest boxer of tremendous talent.
Up on the rooftops, on the sides of the street and behind the platform thousands of fans screamed and cheered.
Decades from now people will talk about the day Whittier Boulevard was closed for a public press conference for a fight between De La Hoya and Pacquiao.
And that will be another story from the Boulevard.
Rebates
Golden Boy Promotions announced that $20 rebates could be obtained with purchases of Tecate Beer. The price for the Pacquiao-De La Hoya pay-per-view fight is going to be $54.95. People are going to need those rebates.
Tickets
The Pacquiao-De La Hoya fight on Dec. 6, at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas is sold out. It was an almost immediate sell out.
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mike:
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The crowd, the gentlemanly manners of the fighters, the promise of a good fight all demonstrate that we will have all the fun on Dcember 6. May Pacquiao win.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 03:02:42 AM
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d duck:
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its hard to get into the hype because i cant believe this fight is going to happen,pac man for me is p4p number 1 but oscars no midget and and is going to rag doll the little man no other way about it.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 06:37:05 AM
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The Watcher:
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Good writings & nice to hear you go down memory lane. I still think this fight is a fraud but still good job...
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 06:37:44 AM
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Fistic Fury:
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TOP LINE IS RACIST!! ONLY JOKING :)
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 07:05:50 AM
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rudy:
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Avila forgot to mention they were also handing out free Lumpia.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 07:17:11 AM
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carlos:
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this fight is a freak show. they are depriving us of the fight boxing fans want.
margo vs de la hoya
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 07:19:26 AM
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Salt lover:
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TO ALL TSS PERSONNEL: If you guys really love boxing, STOP puttin' news about this fight. This "fight" is a business FREAK SHOW to steal away our money and gain fame as if De la Hoya was the same fighter years ago. He's not in his prime no mo' and he doesn't back his word like a MAN. TSS, whoever supports this fight, time will let that person in full shame and EMBARRASSMENT, cuz the Truth always comes foward and this FREAK SHOW is nothin' more tha an EXCUSE for De la Girl avoidin' REAL OPPONENTS (I was gon' put the word CHALLENGES, but to thell you the Truth that "man" doesn't deserve to be challenge no more). So please, as a TRUE boxin' fan, I ask you NOT TO PUT more news about this RIDICULOUS CIRCUS. Show RESPECT for us who write to you everyday, respet for boxin' that these losers are turnin' it into comedic-drama for gainin' money, and show respect for yourselves. The only ones who want this fight is De la Hoya's fans, which are decreasin' and the Filipino people for the obvious reason. Respect boxing and respect the fans, don't put more news about this CRAP so-called "fight" and do a decent, dignified job.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 08:35:54 AM
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John kramer:
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@carlos
You're not the only "boxing fans" in this world. Move on!!!! this fight is a go!
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 08:37:27 AM
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Robert Curtis:
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Aw come on, you old Salty Dog, the fight ain't all that bad. Manny is an obvious underdog, but he's an underdog with bite and I give him a chance. Maybe Oscar isn't the overdog he used to be? But he's game with a good chin and lotsa pride. I don't think Oscar chose Manny to be a bully. The fighters his own size just didn't bring in enough bank. In any event, I think we'll see a good fight. I'll stick with Manny by UD right down the line.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 08:58:18 AM
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Robust_Punch:
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Salt Lover, You are salty as your name...this fight is good the end year. Let's just enjoy the show, not a freak show but a real show!!! Nice writing David, more power
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:30:32 AM
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Salt lover:
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Curtis, the fight ain't bad, IT'S WORST!!! Look what you just wrote: "The fighters his own size just didn't bring in enough bank." So you're defending a guy (Which I have my doubts he's a "guy") that CLEARLY makes these shows to make $$$$$$ ONLY, instead of making the good for the sport. De la Hoya picked Pacquiao to be a bully? HELL YES!!! I't not the first time: Remember when De la Hoya fought twice a Chavez Sr. OUT OF HIS PRIME and but didn't gave Whitaker and/or Quartey the rematches they deserved MUCH MORE than Chavez Sr.. What you call that? It's the EXACT same thing of choosing a miniature opponent, like PAcquiao who doesn't EVEN BELONG in the same card as the 147lbs, instead of Margarito, who De la Hoya avoided with the CRAP EXCUSE of not wantin' to fight a Mexican, when he humiliated an OLD, OUT OF SHAPE Mexican Icon in Chavez Sr. TWICE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Y'a know what I call that?: COWARDLY BULLYING EASY FIGHTERS LIKE A PU$$Y!!!!!!!!!!!! And you even thinkin' that Pacquiao could make a decision with De la Hoya, shows you don't know NOTHIN' 'bour boxin'.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:34:10 AM
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Salt lover:
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carlos, 100% agree with you dawg. Make De la Hoya stand like a MAN and fight Tony Margarito, and/or the other LEGITIMATE Welters, not the easy Asian midget, any Welter would KO.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:35:37 AM
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BigDaddy:
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Mmmm.. LUMPIA (Filipino Egg Rolls). My girlfriend makes ALL the time. Anyways,another stand out article by Mr.Avila.Although I'm not at all excited about this farce of a fight. PACAS!!!
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:37:36 AM
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joey:
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Pacquiao by TKO 9th round
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:47:18 AM
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boxfan:
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This is a seudo fight, a comedy, i can believed why De la Hoya is always avoiding the real oponents.
Pacquiao is a good fighter but he will be figting like a balloon.
He is too small for De la Hoya.
De la Hoya is going to be remember like Big Bird, the only human bird.
Figth like a man, or retire is you are not willing to respect this sport.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:53:54 AM
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edgardo:
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those who said that this fight is a mismatched, shame on you cause you may find yourself running, running and afraid against a bigger man. This fight will demonstrate that being big has to think twice before hurting other (smaller people). Pacman has a big heart and fight like a lion. See it on december 6...
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 10:42:29 AM
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Josephus:
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this fight may seem like a crazy matchup but ticket sell-out & fans response is like crazy as well. it only shows people BELIEVE they have a good fight to look forward to.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 11:51:32 AM
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Salt lover:
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Robust_Punch, let me giv' you a list of examples of what a REAL SHOW is: De la Hoya vs MARGARITO, De la Hoya vs WILLIAMS, De la Hoya vs BERTO, De la Hoya vs CLOTTEY, De la Hoya vs COTTO. THOSE are REAL SHOWS with REAL Welterweight fighters. But De la Hoya vs Pacquiao is a RIDICULOUS FREAK SHOW CIRCUS, makin' fun of the boxin' fans' intelligence by buyin' this so-called "fight". And please, whoever thinks Pacquiao could win, is simply an IGNORANTFOOL in boxin', or is a Filipino that obviously is defendin' his countrymen with no LOGIC, simply FANTASY mentality, or should go see a doctor. Pacquiao has ASBOLUTELY NO CHANCE on win this fight, and they fans know it. Be honest with yourselves and admit it. This fight is total CRAP!
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 01:24:08 PM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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The "Free Tacos" angle -- I don't quite get. I will give it to Big Money O. He knows how to promote. This bout is going to be mad money. And Big Money O will get a lots of breaks against Manny. 1. A broken heart for seeking to get vengence against Manny for being the Mexecutioner. 2. A broken rib and nose for dissing poetic-loud-mouth-self-proclaimed-greatest-trainer-of-all-times Pops Joy May Sr. and getting disrespectful-to-Manny-and-the-Filipino-people-trainer Beristain. 3. A broken jaw for general principles. And 4. A broken ankle after he tumbles down and out in round seven. The only thing about Oscar that will not be broken is his bank account. Holla!
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 01:30:31 PM
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Miles:
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The fans didn't get the ticket. They are now selling to the highest bidder. People involve on this fight only your hard earned money they want. I'm boycotting the PPV.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 01:32:14 PM
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Burestein:
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Saltlover you need some pepper dear, just watch the fight, coz it's a fight, I'm pretty sure you're goin to. that's why Freddie Roach told him "he can't pull those triggers no more" coz he doesn't have the ability to pull it off against a legit welterweights. maybe he choose Pacquiao as his farewell opponent. coz I'm sure Pacquiao will knock his shoes off. and kiss goodbye to boxing.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 01:42:51 PM
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Salt lover:
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WRONG!!!!!!!! The broken jaw, broken ribs, broken ankle and broken heart BELONGS to Pacquiao for fightin' a MUCH SOLID fighter in a different Weightclass that's too BIG for a small person like that. What De la Hoya's is gettin' broken in this fight is his DIGNITY and his MANHOOD, which he already LOST for takin' on the Asian midget. And about the bank account, HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!! can't believe people defend him for that.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 01:49:01 PM
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Ottog Hahn Matalam:
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Remember the fight between:
1. Aaron Pryor VS. Alexis Arguello;
2. Marvin Hagler VS. Thomas Hearns;
3. Roberto Duran VS. Davey Moore.
Guess who won? The much shorter guys won by TKO!!!
That's why Oscar will be TKOed after six round.
Ask Freddie Roach, Bob Marley, Manny Pinol, or Uncle Bob Arum
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 02:05:30 PM
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RIV:
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dlh, fight tony
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 02:08:36 PM
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ysrael:
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Just give boxing a break, This is a good fight . and i believe Golden Boy wil faced Margarito if the price is right.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 03:41:12 PM
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Ottog Hahn Matalam:
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Remember the fight between:
1. Aaron Pryor VS. Alexis Arguello;
2. Marvin Hagler VS. Thomas Hearns;
3. Roberto Duran VS. Davey Moore.
Guess who won? The much shorter guys won by TKO!!!
That's why Oscar will be TKOed after six round.
Ask Freddie Roach, Michael Marley, Manny Pinol, or Uncle Bob Arum
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 03:46:58 PM
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carlos hater..lols..:
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@carlos
haters of this fight always say..."give the REAL BOXING FANS a fight like the marga against dlh....not because we like this matchup means were not REAL BOXING FANS!!! what makes a real boxing fan anyway??do i register for that??haha..lols...
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 04:15:36 PM
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Salt lover:
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Burestein, though I don't agree with you, I respect your opinion. De la Hoya knows he can't compete with the Legitimate TRUE Welters no mo'. That's why he's choosin' easy, small opponents. But still ain't NO WAY De la Hoya's gon' let a small opponent like Pacquiao wins over him. That'll be the shame of the century. De la Hoya's gon' KO Pacquiao and look for another midget in the 147lbs against Ricky Hatton, but hopefully Malignaggi would spoil their plans. Peace out dude. Good commentin' on your behalf.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 04:40:53 PM
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Sodamn Insane:
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Pacman's fist will be cruising up De la hoya's face and I will be backing that up with cash on Pacman
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 05:03:39 PM
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Jet Chase:
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relax guys. come december 6, sit down , relax and learn from the asian midget. obviously, salt lover hasnt been watching pacman's fights the past 3 years. de la joya will go down in the middle rounds because he cannot sustain pacman's fury. its speed, power and heart. relax..... watch and learn. at any rate, give respect to dela joya , he has given alot to boxing, he desrves our thanks for that !!!
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 08:43:09 PM
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jmat:
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I don't get it.. If you say ODLH is not in his prime anymore, why would you like him to fight margarito? Marg should fight the best of welterweights, not ODLH. Leave them [Pac and ODLH] alone. Don't watch if you don't wanna..Simple eh?
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 09:33:54 PM
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dridri:
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Good Luck Oscar!!!
all the odlh animo cheer squad supports you!
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 10:58:45 PM
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jmat:
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I don't get it.. If you say ODLH is not in his prime anymore, why would you like him to fight margarito? Marg should fight the best of welterweights, not ODLH. Leave them [Pac and ODLH] alone. Don't watch if you don't wanna..Simple eh?
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 12:11:33 AM
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#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":
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I'm sick of seeing Salty writing comments on here. I don't bother reading it because it says the same ol song. What money are you putting up in this fight anyway, complaining like a girl. Like I said it before if you don't like it don't watch it, you aren't being force to watch it. This site is a PRO-PACQUAIO for all us PACFANATICS, go to Marley's site. He is an anti-PACQUAIO site. Pac by split over ODLH.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 08:18:17 AM
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#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":
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It's only obvious Salty that everyone is sick of your negative comments all the time. If he gets beat fine nobody stays on top forever, every boxer gets a turn in the limelick ya dig. Pac by split over ODLH.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 08:23:02 AM
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Salt lover:
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" If he gets beat fine nobody stays on top forever, every boxer gets a turn in the limelick ya dig." Well THAT says it all. #1 Pacfan knows his boy will LOSE. Enough with a LOSER like you...............................jmat, it's all about FIGHTIN' THE BEST. It's all about TRUE competition, and that lies in the LEGITIMATE TRUE Welterweights. And the Best Pound for Pound Title means NOTHIN' when the one in that spot is out of his Weight limit. And it is more HONORABLE losin' to the best in his Division like Margarito, than "winning" over a small, miniature, insignificant fighter that doesn't have the frame, weight, nor the strenght for the 147 Division. And I criticize it cuz people pay a lot of money on these CIRCUSES and they applause as if it was real. De la Hoya's an oportunistic gangster who's always hidin' behind that smile. And I want people to realize that.................. And Jet Chase, you don't know me. Don't say I haven't watch this or the other fighter. Pacquiao's speed, power, and all the other stuff you mentioned is NOT gon' work the same way in the 147lbs Division. That Division is too BIG for the Pac to handle. Why can't you people understand? There's areason why they're DIFFERENT WEIGHTCLASSES. And this one is TOO heavy for the Pacman. Like I said before: All the PAfans are talkin' with their HEARTS, not their MINDS AND LOGIC. They KNOW Pacquiao's gon' LOSE BADLY in December.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 08:36:48 AM
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Robert Curtis:
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Salty won't be happy unless Oscar is a gibbering wreck selling pencils with his nose on the other side of his face. I like seeing fighters retire healthy rather than paralyzed with Parkinson's or lost deep in dementia. Salty's gargling spiked Haterade and spitting flames. If he thinks Oscar is a bully, well, it takes one to know one. Oscar has paid his dues and fought many of the best in his time. Manny is taking a risk jumping up in weight, but that's part of the excitement. Both Oscar and Manny have earned their right to take advantage of the free enterprise system. They will give us a good fight. The bloodlust and bombast of some so-called fight fans is pathetic. Not every fight can be Ali/Frazier 1. This one won't be so bad.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 09:38:41 AM
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Anonymous user:
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OSCAR DE LA HOYA ALL DAY!
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 09:40:42 AM
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MARGOFAN:
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DLH WILL NEVER TAKE ON MARGARITO,WHAT WOULD HE DO WHEN MARGO STALKS HIM JUST THE WAY HE STALKED COTTO, GIVE COTTO CREDIT, HE IS AND AWESOME FIGHTER, HE WENT OUT FIGHTING LIKE A WARRIOR, NOT LIKE DLH WHEN HOPKINS HIT HIM WITH A BODY SHOT, HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN UP, BUT NO, HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN A BEATING, MARGO WOULD DO THE SAME TO DLH, THERE NOTHING DLH HAS TO SLOW THE TORNADO, THAT WHY HE IS PICKING PACMAN, DLH WILL BEAT HIM WITH HIS JAB ALL NIGHT LONG
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 10:21:58 AM
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Radam G aka Humble PRG:
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When the bell rings, Big Money O is going to look back to the good old days. Then when he wakes up and in look Manny in the eyes, BMO will turn into a pillar of salt. Manny will whoopa whop, chop chop and bolo the salt to smooching the canvas. New trainer Nacho chips know a lot about boxers, who he trains smooching the canvas. Manny will finish the job in seven or less in three words -- Knocks Oscar out! Holla!
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 11:13:49 AM
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Salt lover:
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PACFANS: "coz I'm sure Pacquiao will knock his shoes off. and kiss goodbye to boxing.", "de la joya will go down in the middle rounds because he cannot sustain pacman's fury. its speed, power and heart. relax..... ", "Pac by split over ODLH.", "Manny will finish the job in seven or less in three words -- Knocks Oscar out! " HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These Pacfans are ALL HEART AND NO MIND HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoever thinks De la Hoya will lose to Pacquiao is overdosed with mushrooms HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 11:37:33 AM
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#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":
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You gettin a little too addicted to that keyboard there buddy. Win or lose it's going to be an exciting fight thats for sure. Manny is no pushover and when he finds that spot he will attack. Salty you need to find yourself because I think your mind lost.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 02:43:06 PM
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Salt lover:
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"Salty you need to find yourself because I think your mind lost."
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My mind is lost, lost in REALITY. Yours is lost in FANTASY ISLAND. Pacquiao is no pushover, WITHIN HIS WEIGHT LIMIT. In the 147lbs a pushover like Golden Johnson would KO Pacquiao easy. And an exciting fight for the Filipino people, not the TRUE HARDCORE boxin' fans that are FED UP with De la Hoya's PU$$!NESS in not takin' real fighters anymore.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 02:57:44 PM
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MARGOFAN:
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ALL YOU PACMAN FANS, GET A CLUE, PACMAN IS THE BEST POUND FOR POUND @ 126, OR 130, HOW IS GOING TO CARRY ALL THE WEIGHT AND POWER AND SPEED UP TO JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT, ALL THOSE JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT FIGHTERS CAN TAKE ALL THAT PACMAN HAS TO OFFER, AND PACMAN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE IT,IN COMPARISON, DO YOU THINK HE WOULD ALSO KNOCK OUT MARGARITO? MARGARITO AND DLH ARE APROX ON SAME LEVEL, PACMAN IS GOING TO TAKE A BEATING, LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS NOT TO YOUR HEART, I'M NOT DLH FAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM ON THE CANVAS, BUT IT TAKES A NATURAL JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT TO DO IT........
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 03:17:57 PM
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Dr. Votts:
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Down goes Oscar... Down goes Oscar. Oscar's gonna kiss the canvas . THE FIGHT AINT AT JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT , IT'S AT WELTER!!!! OSCAR AINT MADE THAT WIEGHT IN YRS !!!!! IF HE MAKES THE WEIGHT HE'S GONNA BE VERY WEAK (ALA PACMAN VS. MORRALES 3) . PACS DEFENSE HAS GOTTEN MUCH BETTER !!! IF HE TAKE IT TO DEEP WATER WE KNOW WHAT OSCARS GONNA DO!!! GAAASS OUT!!!! LOL PACMANS SPEED WILL BE A FACTOR. oCSAR BETTER PUT RDS. IN THE BANK OR GET A TKO EARLY OR DOWN GOES OSCAR !!!!!! SHALOM
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 04:30:23 PM
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Salt lover:
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Dr. Votts, the 147lbs will be more harder on Pacquiao than De la Hoya. How can you say that De la Hoya will be weak, when his body and frame is bigger and stronger than Pacquiao's. The one who's weak is Pacquiao. I saw pics of him at other sites trainin' for this fight and I really feel sorry for the Asian midget. His body's too damn small for the 147 lbs. He's not even gon' make 147 on the scale, that's for sure. And about Pacquiao "speed", DUDE, his speed is NOT gon' be the same with all those pounds over him. Man, the Pacfans are BLIND, and are gon' get a rude wake up after De la Hoya KO'S that lil' man.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 05:40:03 PM
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Ramonito eating rice:
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I want DLH to beat Manny , i am filipino but i dont like him.
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 10:28:21 PM
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#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":
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Margo fan this is not a middleweight fight lol. This is not Mayweather we are talking about who could not carry his power after lighweight. This is Action Pac Manny Pacquaio who will carry some of that power just enough to get a win over golden boy. You know what my fantasy is Salty a fight between Pacquaio and Chickenweather at 140lbs.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 08:20:21 AM
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Salt lover:
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No, your fantasy already is Pacquiao defeatin' De la Hoya. A Mayweather Jr-Pacquiao has a MUCH better chance in happenin' than Pacquao even gettin' a decision. And if Mayweather and SOOOOOOOO many other s could not carry their power, WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK your lil' boy can??? All of them were MUCH BETTER fighters than your boy. He's gettin' KO, and even your boy's wife knows it.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 08:52:18 AM
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LUISITO ABADINES:
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dear david ,
you know what,we are dissappointed of the last promotional tour in whittier blvd. because we're expecting that manny pacquiao will give us a hand when the time we called his attention.we are holding the philippine flag in the fans area,we are the only pinoy that belong to mexican territory and shouting for manny!!!!!!!!!!!manny!!!!!!!!!! against the latino fans.but anyway ,because we are proud to be a filipino ,mabuhay ka manny pacquiao...ipagtanggol mo ang bansang pilipinas.....
thank you ,sana masulatan man lang ako ni manny pacquiao sa email ko para matuwa naman ang anak kong bunso na idol siya talaga...sana makarating sa kanya ito.
thank you again,
Luisito Abadines
Friday Oct 10, 2008 11:46:35 AM
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Anony:
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:::: LUISITO ABADINES ::: MAYBE PACQUIAO DIDN'T SHAKE YOUR HAND BECAUSE HE IS SCARE AND WORRIED ABOUT THE FIGHT::: HE KNOW HE WILL LOOSE :::: DLH BY UNANIMOUS DECISION OR TKO 8TH ::::
Friday Oct 10, 2008 01:31:40 PM
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#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":
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Well atleast we can agree on one thing a fight between Pacman and Chickenweather at 140lbs. About the power thing, I'm different than others on opinion. I think he will carry some power but he will be slower, both fighters has got their disadvantage over one another. Pacman being slower and Oscar being weaker because he is too old to make that weight. Remember he cannot exceed the 147 pound limit, not like when he fought Forbes when he got to rehydrate to 154 or something like that. THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THIS FIGHT IS NOT AS BAD AS PEOPLE JUDGE IT BEING. I KNOW HOW BAD YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO TO STOP IT. WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS AND IF IT WILL BE GOOD FOR BOXING.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 02:22:18 PM
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Ramonito eating rice:
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Pacman was wearing high heels for the picture.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 02:49:24 PM
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Salt lover:
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I respect your opinion #1 Pacfan. Though I don't agree this fight is good for boxing. Fights like these are what is killin' boxin' and takin' away our money. But I respect your opinion. Peace out, dude.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 03:32:04 PM
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TheRealDeal:
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SIMPLY DISGUSTING!! This is such a farce. This fight is terrible for boxing..THIS IS SUCH A JOKE FIGHT!
Friday Oct 10, 2008 11:06:16 PM
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#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":
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That's why we have a so called free of speech, even if it is bad for boxing it's good enough for me; I don't call my self #1 Pacfan for nothin. Nice debatin with ya, next topic! Lates.
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 08:09:09 AM
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Salt lover:
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TheRealDeal, you got it. 100000000000000000% agree with you HEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 10:30:53 AM
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Ramonito counting days, oh and eating rice:
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57 days left for Dec 6 i cannot wait to see Pacman on the floor ,3 rounds ,this will be the worse beating that a fighter can take
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 09:16:35 PM
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oscar:
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all you dlh haters should realize that dlh has fouht the best and has not ducked noone he will be manny then go after margarito if he chooses not to retire he is a true champion and a very smart man thats why when he retires he will be set he has carried this sport for the last 10 years that being said go de la hoya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!el paso texas supports you
Monday Oct 20, 2008 06:32:29 PM
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2009 Reader Of The Year Weighs In On Legacies Of Pacquiao And Mayweather
"Pacquiao has proven....in the ring... time and time again that he is the greatest of this time. He has earned his respect. He begs for nothing. He is a man content with his growth, his family and his achievements. A man the world has now turned it's eyes to behold. Floyd Mayweather is not even close in stature. He may possess the greatest skills but he is not the Face of Boxing today. Google Manny Pacquiao. There are 20 million searches. Google Floyd. There are 6.5 million. Look at the NYTimes, the Wall Street Journal and Time. Count how many words were used these past years to mention Floyd Mayweather. Then count the words still being printed about Manny. And keep counting. As I've said many times, Floyd has been too clever by half. He has short changed his public.....and has out-smarted himself. Manny will fight but a few more times. Enjoy it while you can. He is an all time great pugilist. Floyd, with all of his remarkable skills lack the will to be truly great in the biggest sense of the word. His legacy will look more like Holmes that Ali. He has earned it." ---November is half-way gone, but we don't need to keep counting ballots. It's a landslide. Fe'Roz has won the 2009 Reader of the Year award. His comments add to the website immeasurably, and he epitomizes the thoughtful, respectful, educated fan of pugilism we strive to cater to at TSS. Congrats, Fe'Roz, and please accept my thanks for being the valued member of this community that you are. Sincerely, Editor Mike
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