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Monday Oct 6, 2008

These two pros don't need to berate each other, or shove each other to hype the fight or increase PPV buys. That doesn't mean bombs won't be thrown Dec. 6.

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Roach And Nacho Spar, Oscar And Manny Smile

By Ron Borges

SAN FRANCISCO – Freddie Roach knew payback was in order as he walked to the podium Saturday, the Golden Gate Bridge gleaming in the sun behind him and Oscar De La Hoya, his former boss and present enemy, staring at him with hard eyes.

      A day earlier, at the Space Center in Houston, De La Hoya had gotten the better of his former trainer at the midway point of a week-long trip across America to hype De La Hoya’s Dec. 6 showdown with Roach’s best boxer, Manny Pacquiao. There De La Hoya had told a wild-eyed crowd of his Latino supporters that he knew what Roach would say to Pacquiao at the critical moment of their fight in Las Vegas.

      “Houston, we have a problem,’’ De La Hoya said mockingly, using NASA’s infamous phrase of impending disaster as the crowd roared its approval.

      Now it was Roach’s chance to respond and he didn’t miss his moment. As he strode to the outdoor podium set up on the Upper Meadow at Fort Mason, he reached into a plastic bag and pulled out a toy machine gun.

      “Oscar,’’ Roach said. “I found this toy gun. I can’t pull the trigger. It must be yours.’’

      The crowd roared at the veiled reference to Roach’s earlier claim to TSS that De La Hoya could no longer pull the trigger when it was time to throw punches, the many Filipino transplants living in San Francisco who had gathered on the wide lawn cheering loudly while De La Hoya wore a tight, hard smile.

      A few minutes later Pacquiao would one up the man he is preparing to challenge as well when he related how the two had just come from a similar press conference to hype the fight’s pay-per-view sales. There De La Hoya had referred to a historic moment in American and Mexican history to try and deliver a threat Pacquiao. As it turns out, it had been a waste of breath.

      “Yesterday we went to San Antonio and Oscar said, ‘Remember the Alamo!’’’ Pacquiao said wryly. “But you know what? I don’t know what is the story of the Alamo in San Antonio.’’

      As the crowd cheered even De La Hoya broke into wild laughter, finally putting his head down on the dais to try and compose himself. It was an odd series of moments because here were two guys promising in every city they visited to all but decapitate each other in two short months yet everyone seemed to be in high spirits. Historically, that has not often been the case when these week-long, cross country jaunts are made to hype a major fight because usually as the end nears the combatants can barely stand the sight of each other.

      That’s what happened when De La Hoya made a 13-city, seven-day trip from L.A. to New York with an arrogant Julio Cesar Chavez in 1996 to pump up interest in their first meeting.

      It was true when Marvin Hagler did it with Thomas Hearns and when Hearns did it with Ray Leonard and when Hagler did it with Leonard as well. The list goes on and seldom did it not end with the two sides either snapping at each other, disparaging each other or, worse, attacking each other as Mike Tyson did the day he bit Lennox Lewis in the thigh during a melee at the opening of a New York press gathering called to promote their first and only meeting.

      “It’s not necessary to push and shove each other, to hate each other,’’ De La Hoya said later. “It’s not necessary with us because with our styles we know we’re going to get a fight. You don’t need to have all that shoving and pushing. Usually when you have that the real fight is a snoozefest.

      “I’m 35 years old. At this point I’m having a good time. Don’t get me wrong. I’m training like a madman but we don’t need all that.’’

      So instead we get a few jokes, some words of respect and then the inevitable promise by Pacquiao and Roach that the six-inch reach advantage De La Hoya enjoys will not be a factor because it will be trumped by Pacquiao’s youth and superior speed while De La Hoya counters that speed won’t enter into it because Pacquiao will not be able to resist the temptation of meeting him face to face to rumble, young man, rumble.

      “Manny will engage with me,’’ De La Hoya said. “We’ll clash. If he hits harder than (former middleweight champion Bernard) Hopkins I’m in trouble. If he can box like Pernell Whitaker or Floyd Mayweather then I’m in trouble.’’

      The way De La Hoya made those statements it’s clear he doesn’t believe either is the case. He believes Pacquiao is a dangerous little man in with an equally dangerous bigger man. In this case at least, size matters.

      What does not, is pre-fight insults, although apparently no one has yet explained that to De La Hoya’s new trainer (his third in as many fights). Nacho Beristain did not take kindly to what he perceives to be Roach’s disrespecting De La Hoya and he took his younger counterpart to task for it Saturday.

      “I’m very disappointed in Freddie Roach,’’ Beristain said. “I consider him a very good trainer but he lost his ethics. To talk about about his ex-boss is not right. Maybe of he can’t pull the trigger it’s because Roach could not exploit his talent?’’

      As Beristain’s words in Spanish were translated, Roach appeared to get more than a little agitated at what Beristain had to say. Twice he hollered to him, waving his arm in a dismissive gesture. It was the kind of momentary flare up of emotion one was supposed to see after a week spent too often seeing someone you will soon be trying to punch in the lip.

      It was the one moment of flash during a two-hour session that seemed more like a business convention than the launching of a fistic confrontation that is likely to break box office and pay-per-view records. Then again, Dec. 6 will be as much a business convention in Las Vegas as a fistic confrontation because that is what Oscar De La Hoya has become – a businessman who fights when the financial times are right.

      As for what Manny Pacquiao will be that night only one things is sure – he’ll be as good a Little Big Man as he can be. Whether that’s good enough to beat a bigger but older and slower six-time world champion may well come down to whether or not the gun De La Hoya brings with him comes equipped with a more functional trigger than the one his former trainer had with him on a sun-drenched hill in San Francisco last weekend.

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Anony:  ::::::::::::: WELCOME TO "FANTASY BOXING HYPE GOING WILD" :::::::::::::::
Monday Oct 6, 2008 12:21:45 PM
Robert Curtis:  How the hell old is Oscar really? Somehow I recall him being 35 two years ago. Also, is DLH stooping in that picture, because he doesn't look four inches taller.
Monday Oct 6, 2008 12:44:12 PM
rudy:  Roach is a joke. So is this fight
Monday Oct 6, 2008 01:43:40 PM
donputo69 eating rice and beans:  hey borges!!!..im still waiting for your answer...me and you at a catch weight at 210lbs....anyway...hey robert c...once you hit 35 you start lying about your age...so aint nothing wrong with that...also when you get older, you start to shrink....I remember I was once 5'10 and I shrunk to 5'8....so is true what dlh is saying...holla back!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 01:47:09 PM
donputo69 playing madden 09:  I see everybody are going against each others lately...why not a 2nd TSS boxing tournament?...here we go...round 1...donputo69 vs easter egg...donputo69 via a devestating ko in 7 seconds....salt lover vs #1 pacman fan....salt lover via UD decision ....radam g vs robert curtis...radam via SD....anony vs fanny girl west...anony via tko in 3rd round...andy from white castle vs rudy...rudy via SD in a close one...borges vs woods....borges via SD....kool-aid vs yuvie...yuvie via SD...round 2..donputo69 vs andy...donputo69 via ko in the 10th round....salt lover vs borges...salt lover via SD...radam g vs anony...radam g via SD...yuvie vs rudy....rudy via tko....round 3...donputo69 vs radam g...donputo69 via tko in the 1st round....salt lover vs rudy...rudy via SD....championship.....donputo69 vs rudy....east coast vs west coast...puerto rican vs mexican....let the battle begin....donputo69 def. rudy via tko in the 11th round....2 judges had it 96-94 in favor of rudy...one judge had it 95-95 even....sounds familiar?...lol...anyway...as you can see...the don rules again...and now 2 times TSS super middle champion of the world....don "KING OF KINGS" puto69.....holla back!!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 05:03:26 PM
Porcupine:  Robert, I'd bet my prize chihuahua that they got Pacman wearing elevator shoes to make De la Hoya look like less of a BULLY.
Monday Oct 6, 2008 05:05:16 PM
cereal_killer:  All of you sourgrapers can't do anything but whine and still this fight is unstoppable. Hahahaha!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 05:37:30 PM
Alias:  LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 05:41:37 PM
Salt lover:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don, that was funny. Good job, my man. Yo rudy!! I want my rematch!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 05:44:16 PM
Krhyme:  Mark my words: Nacho Beristain will be the difference in this fight. I think he's one of the most slept on trainers in boxing and will fire up a part of Oscar culturally that none of the other trainers could ignite. If Oscar wins this fight, it will be because Nacho makes it clear to him that he will not stand the humiliation of Oscar losing to Manny. If not for Nacho, I'd pick Manny to win because like Freddie Roach, I also don't think Oscar can pull the trigger anymore.
Monday Oct 6, 2008 06:10:28 PM
Anony:  :::: heheheeh that was a good one DP69 :::::::::::
Monday Oct 6, 2008 06:19:04 PM
Robert Curtis:  I'm hoping Manny is wearing some sporty Cuban heels. After he beats Oscar he can go out salsa dancing and do some fancy mambito steps.
Monday Oct 6, 2008 06:26:52 PM
Editor Mike:  Don, that is cold, me and Borges get bounced in the first quarter of the showdown!!??? Cold!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 06:33:08 PM
icha:  MANNY FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! Bring homey the Bacon! HAHAHA
Monday Oct 6, 2008 06:40:31 PM
donputo69 playing madden 09:  sorry editor mike...there's always next time mike...hey...you never know....you might win the next tournament one week before the dlh pacquiao match...next tournament is on ppv nov.29...so just train a lil bit harder next time...but rumors has it that borges took some substances drinks before the fight....hhhhmmmmmm.....not good mr.borges....TSS is investigating as of right now...holla back!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 07:25:51 PM
d-beth:  Icha, don't you woorry Manny will bring home the bacon......I believe in manny's power and speed.....That will be the factors on december 6 as these 2 talented and prized fighters clashed....Viva Manny..........just do the same thing as what you are doing during your every fight after you climb up in the ring..kneel down on a corner and say a prayer.....that's the true Filipino value......Manny....Manny......Manny......Manny!!!!
Monday Oct 6, 2008 07:36:24 PM
Johntor:  " CLASS OF THE TITANS "
Monday Oct 6, 2008 11:52:34 PM
zdrx:  I think we will see Pacman with bloody face after 11th round. Crying shamelessly in his corner and berating his trainer "you said he can no longer pull the trigger, look what you got me into."In earlier rounds, he used hit and run. At 9th he fought toe to toe to finish Oscar, but end up second best due to Oscar's power and longer reach. We will also see Oscar gasping for breath in his corner while his worried team is trying to revive him. It was protracted battle for an old man chasing Pacman around the ring but could not pin him down. Until Pacman chose to engage at 9th with body shots and got battered in return. Who will win, a battered Pacman or a totally gassed out Oscar? That remains to be seen because this is just a possible scenario.
Monday Oct 6, 2008 11:58:56 PM
george pottot:  bwahahahahahhaha pacman is too small.......win or lose he will bring the bacon..
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 05:13:22 AM
al stephen:  You know what? The PACMAN can eat even its biggest opponent. in the same manner, Pacquiao will defeat DLH. Also, Pacquiao is a Filipino term which means "have it all," which simply implies that manny will conquer all "Mexican" or "Mexican-American" oponents. Go manny, go!
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 06:06:40 AM
MANG RESTY:  D-ela hoya will R-ealized that E-ngaging A-nd fighting M-anny will M-ake A-bsolute T-hrashing and C-omedy of errors for H-im
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 06:32:58 AM
rudy:  nice one Don, love the tourney. In the words of Judge Mills Lanes, 'Lets get it on!'
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 06:48:44 AM
TSS super middleweight champion donputo69:  thanks rudy....lol....it was a close one though between me and you....lol....2 judges had you winning the fight...lol....I just got lucky and landed a devestating left hook to the body....lol...and you never recover from that...but its all love though...lol...holla back!!!!
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 06:55:18 AM
APJ:  i believe that manny would beat de la hoya by his strength and his fearsome love of GOD.
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 07:34:32 AM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  I got something for Nacho, later. But for now, Talk, Talk, Talk! Wait until it's time to walk, walk, walk! It doesn't matter that Oscar's is bigger, because he no longer can pull the trigger. PacMan is going to be amazing. His bombs and guns will be the only ones on target and exploding and blazing. If Oscar thinks that a job was done on him by B-Hop, just wait until he gets hit by Manny's Golden Boy smasher pop pop, bolo, chop-chop and whoopa whop. The great "Golden Boy" of the past will be a no show. On December 6, when The New Greatest Of All Times -- Pacquiao -- kayos Big Money O in round 7, the whole world will know. Holla!
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 07:49:45 AM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  No way! Salty with pull a chickenweather on me and I'll catch him in the 7th on KO i'm relentless boy. Then call out Pinchi Puto over there and get him in the first, that's right.
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 08:04:26 AM
Dr. Votts:  Lmfao !!! According to you. DR. VOTTS MOST AVOIDED IN TSS ARENA !!!
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 11:14:10 AM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  Wow! donputo69, withdraw me from that tournament, and put me in with somebody Oscar's size. I'm not trying to compete with heavys. Put me against the lights, welters and middles, and I'll be called the winner. Of course you keep TKOing my PacMan-frame-and-size arse. Any way, you got jokes and that was some funny $hit. Now, to the hurt business. This new trainer of Golden Boy is a Hilter of disrespecting Pinoys. He came to Manila with canvas-smooching JMM and disrespected us. We forgave him. He disrespected us doing a radio interview -- set up between Mexico and Manila. We have gotten enough of "Nacho (chips) Beristain. Now, that he'll be in Oscar's corner, we're one thrilled nation. It's Pinoy Time and Nacho chips and Big Money Owill know it on Dec. 6. Holla!
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 11:30:22 AM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  Bad, bad, bad move, Big Money O! Get out of the trainer-picking business. Wow! Again BMO has kicked self-proclaimed greatest trainer of all times, poetic Pops Joy May Sr. to the curve. Getting take-the-bout-for-cheap "Nacho (chips)" Beristain, BMO, aka Golden Boy, has a lot of nerves. BMO is not thinking well. PacMan is going to torch him like BMO committed an unforgivable sin and went the hottest level of hell. Posse Pac, Team Pac, Nation Pac, Family Pac and Pera Pac laugh about this news. Because we already know that Team DLH, GBP and BMO are confused. Oscar is a big wreck. He'll be child's play to dissect. When has trainer Ignacio "Nacho (chips with too much spoiled, smelly cheese clotting the arteries going to his brains about the 'Mexecutioner')" Beristain beat Manny and archtrainer Freddie "Tough and Ready" aka "Top Notch" Roach? Never! And whinning about it is childish, not clever! When it comes to training, Roach is P4P top dawg with a killer bite. Beristain is one delusional alley cat with a weak meow and two whinning mice-like Marquez brothers with strong canvas smooching skills. BMO will join them. I guess he has jokes. Because as the bout draws near, he chokes. Holla!
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 11:49:36 AM
satano:  zdrx I think that the scenario that we're gonna get we'll see on dec.6 but I honestly dont think pacman would stepback even if he is fighting a bigger guy like oscar
Tuesday Oct 7, 2008 12:47:15 PM
Ramonito eating rice:  To Donputito get out of this website,i want Oscar to beat MY Philipino Pacman.
Wednesday Oct 8, 2008 10:07:39 PM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  I know the culture of the hurt business very well. In it, you have tricky names, ages, birthdays, birth places, fight records and fighter's height. Bobby C said that Oscar didn't look overly tall over the New GOAT, Manny P. This is because Oscar is not. The hurt business's hurt men lie about their heights as much as about their ages, birth places and records. The retired, great Vinny Paz use to brag about being the only boxer to tell the truth and fight at his actual height. Teddy Atlas once joke on ESPN that Iron Mike Tyson wouldn't be 5'11 with heel on. The late, great Archie Moore's mother said that her son -- born Archibal Lee Wright -- was always lying about his age and birth place. "He is so old that he could have applied for social security when he won the world (title)," she joked. When Archie argued with her that he was born in Missiouri. She said something that cannot be printed here. But I'll paraphase. Blanka da blank...."you were born in Mississppi." The great, late Sugar Ray Robinson was born in Alabama, not California. California death records claim his birth place and name. He got the name Ray Robinson by using an older person's birth papers. He was much younger than his listed age. Under his actual birth name, Walker Smith -- sometimes reported to be George Walker Smith -- won and lost bouts in the Deep South that are apparently now in deep cover for the typical fan to find. Joey Camache, the only person from Maine to ever win a world title belt, was born under another name. People, claiming to know him, say it ain't so. Bottomline, the age or height of Oscar won't matter. PacMan is knocking him out in round seven or less. Holla!
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 12:27:26 PM
Salt lover:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now Radam, has used this CARP EXCUSE when he loses. Before the Casamayor-Marquez fight he always filling the spaces sayin' Casamayor was gon' defeat Marquez, and spoke NOTHIN' about the age. But when he, LIKE ALWAYS, loss the prediction, then he went on to say: "CasaMayor is not 37, he's 47, look at it, I'm not revealin' my sources" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All after LOSING another fight prediction. I guess we all have the next EXCUSE after De la Hoya makes his fighter eat the DIRT: "De la Hoya's not 36, he's 29, he lied about his age so he could become a more respected promoter. Look at it, I'm not revelain' how I got it" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 01:50:22 PM
Radam aka Humble PRG:  This salty dude has severe brain damage. Dude is stalking me like a jilted lover. Somebody tell him to play with himself, and get that blood pressure down. Dude is toasted. Holla!
Friday Oct 10, 2008 07:42:13 AM
Salt lover:  A "severed brain damaged", "high blood pressure" dude like me NEVER makes EXCUSES. Remember that.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 08:54:03 AM
Salt lover:  Oh! And the reason why De la Hoya has 'Nacho' as his trainer, Radam, is cuz is all BUSINESS. He just let go May Sr to train and help win his next opponent: Ricky Hatton. A business conspiracy if you will, with Mayweather Sr trainin' Hatton to win the next fight in order to get him next in line after De la Hoya KO's your boy. And Radam, De la Hoya doesn't even NEED a trainer to KO your boy. Whoever thinks Pacquiao's gon' win over De la Hoya is PATHETIC, and the REAL SLOW LOSER. Just admit it and come to reality. That's all there is, just a trainer-swtichin' move to make De la Hoya-Hatton next year. But hopefully the 'Magic Man' will defeat Hatton, shut Mayweather Sr's mouth, and RUIN De la Hoya's plans of takin' advantage over people again. And about the Marquez's brothers HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't worry kid, 3rd fight is IMMINENT after Pacquiao goes down in Weightclass again in SHAME. Even the most RETARDED person in the World knows De la Hoya will win.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 09:11:39 AM
Salt lover:  The one who's lost in "dumb-in-view" is YOU. I'm always talking about boxin' and there goes Radam, with his stupid rhymin', talkin' about "blood-pressure", "organs", "OCDs", "BD", and "GEDs". Well a DUMB, EXCUSE-MAKER LOSER would answer this way. Kid, TALK BOXING, don't talk about me. It's OBVIOUS when you can't talk about boxin' YOU KNOW you don't have any arguments to defend your country's midget icon. He's gettin' KO'ed in December and, you and your people know it. Oh!!!!!!! I'm gon' enjoy this two months and of course the December 6 Pac-get-KO'ed day. Don't get your shots already wasted Radam, I'm just startin' .
Friday Oct 10, 2008 02:16:27 PM
Ramonito eating rice:  Pacman was wearing high heels and DLH hair was flat for the picture.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 02:50:51 PM
Robert Curtis:  Props to Radam for the history lesson and the comic gold posted as the "quote of note". I'm rooting for Manny, although I'm bummed that Freddie's gym will be closed to the public during certain convenient hours. I'll have to vent my frustrations elsewhere.
Friday Oct 10, 2008 10:45:04 PM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  Time out on the Salty. Gee wiz! Dude has lost it. Don't have a stroke, or do you know what that is? I've told you that I'll buy you a brain from the great and powerful Wizard. Ooch! Pay that man behind the keyboard no attention! Lmfao! Holla!
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 11:19:45 AM
Radam G aka Humble PRG:  Drawf brain is looking for Pera Pac to fight Snow White. Too bad! The New GOAT -- PacMan The Great -- is going to do the ant on antwacky Goldy. Thanks for the Oscar, but this is one Oscar that the Asian Great is going to smash into salt lover flakes. I'm loving it, and I'm going to quit being comically cruel to dude with OCD and no GED. And with a space war going on in his head. I guess that his electrons have turned on the neurons and are shooting them down. And the protons have coward down to an alien fungi and a virus from the Long Dumb Ranger. Holla!
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 11:44:41 AM
Salt lover:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They erase his comments and couldn't resist to keep the OUT-OF-BOXING-TOPIC attack on me. Yes! That's right Radam. We have almost two months to have fun in this site, until the FATED DAY when your midget icon gets KO'ed in front of the whole World. That's what he gets for enterin' DEEP WATERS and you Tagalogs makin' phony RIDICULOUS stories of him even thinking of winning that fight. And you being "cruel" to me???????!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Radam, your comments are as soft as the attacks De la Hoya's gon' feel by Pacquiao. YO!!!!!!! Try and read this: TALK BOXING. Like I've said a million times: I'm talking boxing and you talking about me, who's the one doing the stalking Radam? Answer that. Don't worry, we'll enjoy the downfall of your brief iconic LOSER who's even wife knows his gettin' KILLED.
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 05:56:05 PM
Ramonito counting days, oh and eating rice:  57 days left for Dec 6 i cannot wait to see Pacman on the floor ,3 rounds ,this will be the worse beating that a fighter can take ,ouch! it hurts.
Saturday Oct 11, 2008 09:20:13 PM
Anony:  :::::::::::::::: POOR RADAM G, EVERYBODY PICK ON HIM :::::::::::::::: I guess that happens when you talk too much making excuses out of deep frustations. Radam... sorry but JMM is a great fighter, you are the only one hating on him. Again, sorry but Pacman will loose the fight against Oscar, you need to get used to the idea cause it will hurt a lot when it happens. Again, sorry but, Salt Lover is right, you talk too much but not about boxing. And again.... sorry but... you do A LOT of very stupid comments over and over again man... don't you think we all got tired of the gibberish you write??? You should learn more boxing, take it cool between comments and JUST BE REALISTIC OR OBJECTIVE... Pacquiao will loose. Get used to it. You and all Pinoys here. Nothing against the Pacman but he is a way over his head fighting Oscar. Wayyyyyy over let me clarify. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk... poor Radam. Salt Lover, please let go of the jab on his face... he is already hurt and not worth the knock out. You make him look too bad.
Sunday Oct 12, 2008 09:06:53 AM
Anony:  :::::::::::::::: 56 DAYS NOW TO THE EOTY ::::::::::::::: (embarrasment of the year). But I guess Pacquiao can live with the shame after he receives those millions he will receive. Oh well... who wouldn't do the same??? Let's be honest. The sad thing is that the media and all those payed by Golden Boys and Arum are trying to brainwash us TRYING TO MAKE US BELIEVE IT IS A WORTHY COMBAT. Like if we couldn't tell.
Sunday Oct 12, 2008 09:13:39 AM
Salt lover:  Ramonito, count me in too. Pacquiao on the floor HURT, and LOSING.....OH!! And Radam lookin' his briefcase full of EXCUSES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! De la Hoya sends Pacquiao back to The Philippines in BLOODY-STATE. De la Hoya's a COWARD AND PU$$Y for that.
Sunday Oct 12, 2008 09:26:43 AM

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