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Monday Sep 22, 2008

TSS figures Berto will have no trouble with Forbes, but wonders why Berto is fighting his second softish touch in a row? Is his management telling us something?

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4-1 Underdog Forbes Wants A Street Fight

By Ronan Keenan

Being undersized is nothing new for Steve Forbes.  Having been born two months early weighing just two pounds, the Oregon native had to battle against the odds to make it into the world.  These days, the 5’7 fighter confronts opponents in a weight class that’s 17-pounds north of where he won a world title eight years ago. 

On Saturday, “2 Pounds” will attempt to wrest Andre Berto’s piece of the welterweight championship at California’s Home Depot Center on HBO Boxing After Dark.  But combating a highly-acclaimed puncher with a 22-0 (19) record pales in comparison to Forbes’ struggles as an infant. 

“My mother was around 16 when she had me and got out and partied, things like that,” he recalls. “I was told I was two pounds when I was born, and I was lucky to be alive. Even when I got out of the hospital, I still had problems with my lungs and heart.” 

After catching sight of Evander Holyfield on the cover of The Ring magazine, the small, almost fragile, ten year-old kid knew he found his calling, even if nobody else would believe him. 

“I couldn’t play outside in the rain,” he remembers. “I’d get the shakes.  But once I saw that [Holyfield] picture, something clicked: ‘That's what I'm going to do.’ And right then and there, that's what I set my sights on.” 

“[My family] were petrified of me boxing. ‘Oh, he's going to get hurt. … Poor baby, if he gets hit, what's going to happen to him?,” he told ESPN earlier this year. “Everybody was overprotective of me as a kid. Even the neighbors. They weren't even related, but they were [saying], ‘Is he gonna be hurt?’” 

They needn’t have worried. A firm dedication to his craft has helped Forbes develop an almost impregnable defense based on nifty head movement and sharp reflexes.  

After compiling an amateur record of 57-10 with five Washington and Oregon Golden Gloves titles, Forbes turned professional in 1996, around the same time as noted Olympic stars Floyd Mayweather Jr., Fernando Vargas and David Reid.  

Forbes entered the paid ranks with little fanfare, but he developed a relationship with the renowned Mayweather family and subsequently relocated to Las Vegas. 

“I used to sleep on Roger [Mayweather’s] couch,” Forbes told David Avila. “It was Floyd [Senior] who told me I couldn’t go back to Portland. He said he could make me a champion.” 

And four years later the eldest Mayweather did help Steve win a version of the junior lightweight championship, with a victory over the rugged John Brown securing the vacant IBF bauble.  But Forbes would only make one defense of the belt – a points win over Brown in a rematch – before weight-making difficulties saw him stripped of the crown when he scaled 134¾ pounds for his fight with David Santos in 2002.    

Despite evidence that he had clearly outgrown the division, Forbes continued to campaign at 130-pounds, but he came up short in title shots against Carlos Hernandez and Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai.   

Forbes’ slick skills helped him avoid punishment, but his lack of strength and one-punch concussive power saw him outworked by the tough pressure-fighters. Moreover, those traits didn’t particularly endear him to promoters and with a spotty record and thin fanbase, Forbes was forced to compete on small shows for little change. 

“After I had to give up my title I was pretty much left out in the cold,” he told reporters last spring. “I was off for 14 months after I lost my last title shot (to Nanthachai in 2004). Nothing was going on. I was another sad story in boxing. A wasted talent type of thing.”  

But an opportunity on ESPN’s reality show The Contender changed Forbes’ career in 2006. His name stood out relative to the assortment of unheralded fighters, but there was a catch – the fights would be at 150 pounds.   

Regardless, the smallest man on the show made it to the finale, but lost a split decision to Grady Brewer, who was a natural junior middleweight.  Forbes was evidently the more skilled boxer, but he was again outworked by a busier, physically imposing fighter. 

Still, Forbes pocketed a then career-high purse of $75,000 with his performances and honest personality highlighting the show, leading to significant opportunities when the series ended. 

“Before The Contender I thought my career might be over,” admitted Forbes, 31. “But The Contender revitalized my career.” 

Forbes impressed in subsequent high-profile outings against Demetrius Hopkins and Francisco Bojado, defeating the latter on points, while losing a decision to Hopkins that many in the boxing media regarded as the worst in 2007.   

But 2008 has brought better luck with Forbes securing a showdown with Oscar De La Hoya last May, as the “Golden Boy” viewed Forbes as an ideal tune-up for Mayweather Jr.’s polished style. Forbes showed admirable heart in losing a comprehensive points verdict and even left De La Hoya with a cracked cheekbone. 

Reported Ron Borges: “Forbes certainly proved he’s got a top-level chin. He has never been knocked off his feet and De La Hoya, despite his dominance, could not find a way to change that. Much of the night he was drilling Forbes with a power jab and some hard body shots and left hooks to the head behind it but never did he manage to get Forbes into any kind of serious trouble.” 

“It was an honor to fight Oscar,” said Forbes, 33-6 (9). “It was great to be in there and not go down. I hope I proved I’m a top-level fighter.” 

Yet some sections of the boxing media question Forbes’ eligibility to challenge an aggressor of Berto’s unbridled talent.  Against De La Hoya, Forbes did confirm that he can hang with the sport’s upper echelon, but he has not shown the qualities required of a main event television fighter. Since his days on The Contender, he has tried to impress audiences by refraining from moving much around the ring, but his fights lack drama as he routinely makes opponents miss, but counters with comparatively unspectacular blows.  

A win over a potential superstar like Berto would go a long way toward rectifying marketability issues.  

Conversely, Berto has had no trouble creating a buzz, attacking with a dazzling blend of speed and power; launching assaults from angles, while working off a pounding jab. Physically, the 25-year-old seems to have every advantage.  But Forbes believes he possesses the mental toughness that can prevent the mismatch some commentators are predicting.  

“If you watch the old school fighters, they always knew how to nullify the younger guys,” says Forbes, who is reunited with Mayweather Snr. for this fight.  “Younger guys don't have patience, so I have to be smart and keep making sure I know where my hands are at all times. I need to be consistent all night. 

“I will try to make it a street fight; I'll show him I can street fight.” 

In recent outings Berto has seemingly won without exertion against overmatched opponents like Miguel Rodriguez and Michael Trabant. On Saturday, the Florida fighter may have to take his game to another level and he has not been afraid to acknowledge the test. 

“I'm really going to have something to prove [against Forbes],” said Berto. “Forbes has never been knocked out, he's never been stopped. My last few guys, that I've been in with, I've been putting them away pretty early so it's going to be some good work for me.” 

It may seem discourteous to refer to a consummate pro like Forbes as “good work” but the 4/1 underdog is used to playing the supporting role. Against De La Hoya, he was loudly heckled upon entering the ring. 

Yet, as Forbes reminds us, “They booed me on the way in, but they cheered me on the way out.”



in touch:  this fight really is over-hyped. berto is too good, too fast for forbes. oscar won every round of his fight with forbes. it was one-sided and people think it was a great achievement that forbes stayed on his feet. how is that an achievement? was he fighting a relentless fighter with great punching power? he was fighting oscar who has barely one a big fight in his career. all this fight is going to do is make people realize that maybe oscar is over-rated and old. and that young blood like berto are better and more entertaining. i feel sad for forbes 'cause he really is limited to what he can do. but he's trying to do what he can. but that's the sport. one man's limitations is another man's gift.
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
AG:  If he thought Grady "Bad Boy" was the bigger fighter, can't wait to see what his frame of mind will be after Berto.
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
rudy:  Calling it right now, night of the long shots this Saturday. 2 Pounds to expose Berto's weak defense and make him look foolish; then in the main event El Matador will pound Sugar into some Sweet N' Low packets!
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Humble PRG, formerly Radam G:  I'm smelling upsets that will come out as bad decisions. Holla!
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Robert Curtis:  Great job, Ronan. This is one of the best written pieces I've seen on TSS, solid economic prose with a punch. Forbes seems highly intelligent and practical. He's got experience and good defensive skills. But if he doesn't have a puncher's chance, he probably has no chance. I go for underdogs, but I prefer underdogs who have shown more bite. Still, I wish Forbes the best and hope he boxes hard for a victory.
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Dr. Votts:  I got Forbes making Berto real ugly . Berto's Defense is suspect , and he eats a lot of shots. I think he is the easiest welter strap holder to take down. He doesn't seem to have a game plan when he fights except to explode with hooks and uppercuts. Also his mental toughness is questionable, when he gets hit clean a lot he seems to get frustrated and discourage. He needs to tighten up that defense A.S.A.P. and let the fight come to him. Use his jab, be patient and dig to the body early and he should be alright. Whole lot of sharks and pirahnas at 147, and they can smell blood from a mile away. I like Berto , he's exciting to watch, but he's not going to have the power and speed advantage in every fight . That's where the skills come in at. The sooner he gets that the better off he'll be. Shalom
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Arturo:  I got Forbes talking about his childhood every time I read something about him.O.K. gained 145 punds since the day he was born , that is something special.Maybe he should start talking about how is he going to start hurting people instead of leaving light hail damage.Come on Mosley versus Berto would have been a better match than these two fights put together.It would even get Berto more credit if he won , but by beating" the king of 2 pounds of force in each hand" is not a feat that every boxer has dreams about .
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Arturo:  Just look at Steve Forbes pic on the top of this article.Does he look like he can stop Berto? The guy's glove's weighs more than he did.
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
donputo69:  Mosley by UD...and berto will tko forbes...holla back!!!
Tuesday Sep 23, 2008
Anony:  :::::::: BERTO BY SPLIT DECISION AND MOSLEY BY UD ::::::::::
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
Anony:  :::::::: JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY CARES :::: "De La Hoya earned $2 million, and Forbes was paid $400,000, according to California State Athletic Commission Executive Officer Armando Garcia." - from the LA Times.
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
Humble PRB, formerly Radam G:  I think that Forbes is campaigning for a movie to be made about him. It will be called "How a two-pound baby grew into a two-time world boxing champion." The little dude, who is Janet Jackson's man will land the starting part. This loveman of "I'm Nasty' Miss Jackson" looks like he was also born at about couple of pounds. Holla!
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
Humble PRG, formerly Radam G:  My bad! That last should have been Humble PRG, Humble PRB Holla!
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
donputo69 sitting in the toilet:  damn!!! 400,000 only? WTF?...is it that bad for forbes!!! Lol..holla back!!!
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
St. Voltaire:  Forbes is getting a little too much respect for merely hangin tough with Oscar, but remember he LOST clearly. Berto's strength and speed over power Forbes' ring savvy.
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
959 Santa:  Forbes has too much wear and tear on him. Actually Forbes is a opponent to make Berto look good. At least from where I sit that's obvious. To me Berto is a unproven title holder who would get smashed by Margarito or Williams. In my opinion Berto still has a long way to go before he even gets near the two top fighters at 147. Is Forbes the man to provide Berto with that experience. No way because Berto is too young and has no ring life on him and certainly Forbes won't be able to even put a dent in him. Bottom line easy fight for Berto. Forbes is just a opponent now. Simply Stated.
Wednesday Sep 24, 2008
pete Steward:  Mosley CRUSHES Mayorga and Berto Batters Forbes and becomes the 1st to KO 2 POUND!
Saturday Sep 27, 2008

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