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Friday Sep 5, 2008


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Experts Analyze De La Hoya-Pacquiao Fight

By David A. Avila

A week has passed since Oscar De La Hoya revealed that Manny Pacquiao will don the gloves and step inside the boxing ring against him come December.

 

It will be an early Christmas gift for somebody but most experts see the bigger man grabbing the prize.

 

De La Hoya, the 10-time world champion from East Los Angeles and the sports biggest moneymaker in history, said he will be fighting WBC lightweight titleholder Pacquiao because of the Filipino’s status among the press as the best fighter pound for pound in professional boxing.

 

It all started after renowned trainer Freddie Roach witnessed the De La Hoya match against former junior lightweight titleholder Steve Forbes in a 10 round junior middleweight bout that took all 12 rounds to decide. That fight prompted the wise Roach to estimate his primary fighter Pacquiao could beat the Golden Boy.

 

“After seeing what Steve Forbes could do to Oscar imagine what Manny would do,” said Roach. “Forbes is a good fighter but doesn’t hit as hard as Manny.”

 

Forbes heard the comments comparing him with Pacquiao.

 

“Oscar is too big for him,” said Forbes. “Manny is a great fighter but he doesn’t fight anything like me. He darts in and out. I’m a slick defensive fighter.”

 

De La Hoya heard the comments too.

 

“People are talking that Manny Pacquiao can beat me,” said De La Hoya (39-5, 30 KOs) during a telephone press conference call. “When Freddie Roach started saying, ‘Oscar can’t pull the trigger’ or ‘Manny Pacquiao, the fighter I trained can beat you,’ it started to become a challenge to me.”

 

De La Hoya the “Golden Boy” and Pacquiao the “Mexican destroyer” will meet on Dec. 6 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in what’s expected to sell out the MGM Garden Arena and bring in more than 1.5 million pay-per-views.

 

Pacquiao, who has risen from the 112-pound flyweight division as a champion to capture the world titles in the super bantamweight, junior lightweight and lightweight divisions, now faces a former pound for pound champion who is five inches taller and fights three divisions higher, a weight disparity of 19 pounds.

 

Both fighters have made concessions for the fight. De La Hoya is dropping down to 147 pounds and Pacquiao moving up. Both will fight with eight-ounce gloves, the glove weight Pacquiao normally uses. De La Hoya has been using 10-ounce gloves for eight years.

 

“I think I can beat De La Hoya especially after I saw his last performance on the last fight,” said Pacquiao (47-3-2, 35 KOs). “I think I’m faster and stronger than him and I’m younger.”

 

In Pacquiao’s last fight he destroyed former WBC lightweight titleholder David Diaz with blistering speed and powerful combinations.

 

“Manny will knock out Oscar,” said Freddie Roach who formerly trained De La Hoya for the Floyd Mayweather fight last year and trains Pacquiao. “You can put Oscar’s right hand in his pocket. It’s useless.”

 

De La Hoya captured the gold medal at the 1992 Olympic in Barcelona, Spain and proceeded to win world titles in the junior lightweight, lightweight, junior welterweight, welterweight, junior middleweight and middleweight divisions.

 

“Size isn’t going to be that much of a big difference,” De La Hoya said. “I understand the relentless style that Manny has. I understand the speed he has. So for me, as a 35-year-old fighter, it really is a big challenge for me.”

 

Big challenge for Pac Man

 

Experts don’t all agree that it’s a big challenge, but they’re talking about De La Hoya.

 

Forbes, who is preparing for a world title bid against WBC titleholder Andre Berto at the Staples Center on Sept. 27, chuckled when told about comparisons between him and Pacquiao.

 

“As soon as Manny stands in front of Oscar he’s in trouble. One thing Manny is going to learn is Oscar is much bigger and hits harder than anybody he ever faced before,” said Forbes who has never been knocked out. “The most important thing I learned against Oscar is the value of a good jab. He kept the left hand in my face the whole night.”

 

Forbes feels that Pacquiao had problems in both fights against Juan Manuel Marquez.

 

“I thought Marquez won both fights,” said Forbes. “He punched Pacquiao good to the body and hurt him.”

 

Forbes can’t see Pacquiao being defensively adept enough to slip De La Hoya’s punches.

 

“Manny is going to get hit harder than he’s ever been hit in his career,” Forbes said. “I’m really shocked about this fight.”

 

Riverside’s Henry Ramirez, who trains heavyweight contender Chris “The Nightmare” Arreola and Josesito Lopez, said the pairing doesn’t make a sporting sense, only money sense.

 

“You have a guy (Pacquiao) who barely beat Juan Manuel Marquez and he’s going to fight a junior middleweight?” said Ramirez. “Here is a guy De La Hoya who fought Fernando Vargas, Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad and now he’s relegated to fighting Pacquiao who is a great fighter but there are other guys he (De La Hoya) could have fought like Antonio Margarito.”

 

Boxing writer German Villasenor of Maxboxing.com, calls it a terrible mismatch despite Pacquiao’s speed advantage.

 

“Obviously it’s just about the money,” said Villasenor. “It’s just about the money. Oscar is too big for Pacquiao. Pacquiao is good but he can’t hurt Oscar.”

 

Female boxing world champion Elena Reid, who is Filipina, said the size difference would determine the outcome.

 

“It’s crazy,” said Reid by telephone. “Obviously Pacquiao is not big enough for De La Hoya. It’s a good monetary opportunity but I just don’t understand. They’re two different weight classes. Pacquiao is the best at his weight but there is a reason we have different weight classes.”

 

Don Leonard, who writes for a Southern California boxing and MMA magazine, said that Pacquiao could be gambling for the big money now.

 

“There are about six lightweights I think that can beat Manny Pacquiao like Joan Guzman, Nate Campbell, Juan Diaz, Michael Katsidis, and Urbano Antillon,” said Leonard. “He’s probably taking this fight with De La Hoya so he can make his money now before those guys beat him.”

 

Regardless of the size and weight disparities, De La Hoya and Pacquiao are about to clash.

 

The event is expected to be the most watched event of the year and will be co-promoted by Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank.

 

“This fight has world-wide implications,” said Top Rank’s Bob Arum.

 

Pacquiao said it’s a gift from God to be fighting De La Hoya and that it will establish him for certain as the best fighter of this generation.

 

Three months till Dec. 6 in Las Vegas.

 

 

Nevada Stateline

 

Colombia’s undefeated Yonnhy Perez (17-0, 12 KOs), who fights for Thompson Boxing Promotions, meets Tomas Rojas (28-11, 19 KOs) in a 10-round bantamweight fight at Buffalo Bill’s Casino at Primm, Nevada.

 

Perez fights out of Santa Fe Springs, Calif. and has fought his way to the top 20 of the bantamweight division. Now he gets another opportunity to show whether he’s ready for the likes of Fernando Montiel and Gerry Penalosa.

 

Also on the fight card will be Ela “Bam Bam” Nunez (8-3) against fellow New Yorker Melissa Hernandez (8-1-2) in a 10-round contest for the vacant IWBF junior featherweight world title.

 

Nunez recently fought and beat Dominga Olivo by split-decision a month ago for a regional title and now runs into Hernandez, the former GBU lightweight world titleholder who relinquished the title to meet Nunez. It should be fireworks.

 

In a lightweight bout Antonio DeMarco (18-1-1, 13 KOs) meets Jose Reyes (23-4, 8 KOs) in a 10-round contest.

 

The first 500 fans to arrive get in free to the Gary Shaw Productions fight card.

 

Fights on television

 

Fri. ESPN2, 6 p.m., James Kirkland (22-0) vs. Ricardo Cortes (22-2-1).

 

Fri. Telefutura, 8 p.m., Urbano Antillon (23-0) vs. Daniel Attah (24-4-1).

 

Fri. Showtime, 11 p.m., Yonnhy Perez (17-0) vs. Tomas Rojas (28-11).

 

Sat. HBO, 10:15 p.m., Juan Diaz (33-1) vs. Michael Katsidis (23-1, 20 KOs).

 

 

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pacyouforbes:  forbes just can't accept himself being compared to pac, who is both an exciting and a great fighter at this time. stay out of this forbes, this ain't your fight and accept the truth, you loss to DLH w/out giving your best. you're the one who just fight for the money. and to the other lightweights, wait for your turn and don't envy.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 03:40:37 AM
lostboy:  common guy's lets the match happen this is a unforgettable match- i will leave this for you to think because all boxing analyst belives that pacman will loss to dela hoya because its damn mismatch!! okey,okey------ BUT what if pacman beat dela hoya, what you think those analyst and writters have to wright and speak of!!!! hahahaha!! just wait and learn dec.6 amigos!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 04:10:06 AM
donputo69:  and this expert says dlh might kill pacman....as hard im rooting for pacman, i dont see pacman winning this fight...after dlh beats pacman, he will callout ivan calderon and offer calderon a 70-30 in calderon's favor to fight him next in his farewell fight...PUERTO RICO VS MEXICO AGAIN...once and for all...holla back!!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 04:48:28 AM
joel Perez:  I will be judging the Antillon vs Attah this weekend and that should present a good picture of who Manny should fight. I agree that Margarito would have been a more even fight for Oscar.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 06:48:07 AM
Smiley C:  Pacman all the way. Golden Boy is finished. I expect a kayo. Fo' sure!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:42:41 AM
rudy:  Just a bunch of hype for another so called 'Mega-fight' -- BS!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 08:43:29 AM
andy from newcastle:  We've got three more months of this. How about limiting it to one article every two weeks, and giving us something on the other fights happening during September (that's this month). Toonoy
Friday Sep 5, 2008 10:33:24 AM
Pinklonboxing:  First, Oscar by KO. Second, MELISSA "HURACAN" HERNANDEZ is gonna bam bam on Ela Nunez tonite!!!! HURACAN IS WOMYN's BOXING!!!! :) LAYLA, you're NEXT!!!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:40:03 AM
Porcupine:  Oscar's goals are no longer athletic; they are now monetary, as he admitted prior to the Forbes mismatch. The only good that can come of this is Manny humiliating Oscar with a KO shot to his greedy face.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 12:05:50 PM
BigDaddy:  I think De la Hoya and Fraud started a Celebrity Boxing League and are no longer interested in REAL fights.Only the Groupies and delusional Nut-Huggers are cheering this CRAP on,.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 12:38:24 PM
SlantedV:  Most people stuck in the mind frame that DLH is bigger and MP is too small. They are fight in 147 pound which means DLH has to come down and MP moves up. The body chemistry changes then. Yes, DLH is bigger now but wait until 147 pounds. As fans, we can only wait until December 6 to see the outcome of the fight. May the best fighter wins.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 12:56:22 PM
E.J.:  Good! For a change Pacman is the underdog AGAIN! He's most lethal when he is... hungry to prove something beyond the ordinary. He's just a fighter who trains hard in every fight just so that he could carry a nation's pride. Sure the money is the no. 1 factor on both sides, conventional wisdom says DLH should and will win this one. But what if an inconceivable victory for Pacquiao happen, then I guess this is the stuff that legends are made of.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 01:12:24 PM
Oskee:  This IS a mismatch and it would be really nice if Pacquiao proved the majority wrong. But the guy who said all those lightweights can beat Pacquiao is just as crazy as this fight is.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 01:13:40 PM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  "I've finally come to a conclusion about my predictions on this fight. Rounds 1: The feel out round Oscar using the jab using his height advantage and not getting too close, Oscars round. 2: Manny becomes aggressive inching his way closer to Oscars face, close round won by Pac. 3: Both fighters become more comfortable thinking they can hurt one another and Oscar has gotten away from his jab, Pac wins the round. 4: Pac throwing punches in bunches but connecting and seems to punch himself out and Oscar takes advantage and picks at Pac. Oscar's round. 5: Fatigue is starting to set in on the bloated Filipino icon is just taking this round off which gives Oscar the round for Pac's inactivity. 6: Pac looks to got back some energy and is getting busy using a different strategy and box Oscar, Pac claims the round by a margin. 7: Pac is using the ring like a brilliant Matador. to be continued........
Friday Sep 5, 2008 01:28:30 PM
donputo69:  continuation from round 7...Round 8: pacman gets KTFO...fight's over...holla back!!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 01:35:18 PM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  Pac won round 7.Rounds 8: Pac is hurt!!!! Dazed and confused, but defending well by the slow barrage of punches thrown by Oscar. It was left hook right to the head!!He is cut and bleeding but not going to affect the fight, Oscar's round with 10-8. 9: Championship rounds!! Roach tells Pac, "Dig deep son get in use your combos this is the fight of your life" Here we go, Oscar coming foward which i don't think is a good idea. Pac dodging power punches and throws the famous "Manila Ice" (right hook) doubled his hook and dazes Oscar for a moment but not like how Oscar's hook affected him. Pac wins the round. 10: Pac showing his grits and proving why he's the number 1 pound for pound. Taking advantage of Oscar with his aggressiveness but not hurting him. Pac wins the round.11: Oscar starts to show some life and getting back to his jab which is making it difficult for Pac to get in. Oscar wins the round. Final Round!! I have it 95-95 who wants it more the wealthy rich golden boy or the Filipino treasure who grew up into poverty by selling cigarretes in the streets just to get by. It's intense both men throwing punches in close range but Pac has advantage with him going to the body of the older men. Close round but I gave it to Pac. There you go folks, I just did you a favor so you wouldn't have to watch the fight. Pacquaio by Split decision.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 01:50:03 PM
#1 pacfan P4P \:  Breaking News!!! Manny Pacquaio has done the impossible and pulled off an upset over Oscar Dela Hoya. Holly back Puto.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 01:56:24 PM
rudy:  pacfan your freaking delusional, i think you just nutted in your pants after that last comment
Friday Sep 5, 2008 02:25:55 PM
Javier:  Riverside’s Henry Ramirez, who trains heavyweight contender Chris “The Nightmare” Arreola and Josesito Lopez, said the pairing doesn’t make a sporting sense, only money sense. “You have a guy (Pacquiao) who barely beat Juan Manuel Marquez and he’s going to fight a junior middleweight?” said Ramirez. “Here is a guy De La Hoya who fought Fernando Vargas, Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad and now he’s relegated to fighting Pacquiao who is a great fighter but there are other guys he (De La Hoya) could have fought like Antonio Margarito.”
Friday Sep 5, 2008 03:32:41 PM
Sodamn Insane:  This will be a interesting match up but well worth the money spend . I feel ODLH was !!! a great fighter about 5 years ago but is much slower now and he will kill himself to get to 147 lbs a day before the fight this will cause him to be weaker the day of the fight . and man he needs to hydrate back to 160lbs his normal body weight . But you don't have to be a scholar to figure out the ODLH really walks around 180lbs . While little Pacman will be fighting at 147lbs at fight night and he will be so quick that he will be a blur to ODLH . maybe ODLH should have move up in weight instead and fought Joe Calzaghe .
Friday Sep 5, 2008 04:48:01 PM
donputo69 Watching ESPN News:  dont get me wrong pacfan...im rooting for pacquiao to beat the crap out of dlh....but i dont see it happening son...1 left hook from dlh to pacquiao's face, and its pipi mimi for the P4P king...holla back!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 05:24:13 PM
ernesto apolonia:  For those who keep saying o/d is too darn big, why not bet all your money in the bank as well as all your asset for o/d and see if you can stand to watch the fight.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 05:29:13 PM
javaman:  dont judge the fight of pacman and dlh!!! size doesn't matter!!pacman use his brain and heart wisely to fight dlh...dlh is compared to david diaz in this fight,pacman wins by knockout or split decision...
Friday Sep 5, 2008 05:37:25 PM
Javier:  You cannot use your brain for this fight he will need a little more than that, he needs a chin of steel that he doesnt have he has 4 losses go to youtube and see those fights, i predict Pacboy go down on the first round and save by the bell and finally out in round 3, and he will be like Cacaroach!! iyou said that i could win so now i am not gona pay you . Cacaroach what? give me my money running after him around the MGM, i was kidding when i said that i wouldnt take the money.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 06:48:33 PM
Javier:  I think all of you need to wait for the outcome to say something because you all going to look like fool, he is fighting Oscar not David Diaz, just think,if you can.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 06:50:38 PM
NOEL COVER:  We all know that Oscar is bigger that's why many want to fight because despite being big he is a CASH COW... PACMAN should take this fight because it is a golden opportunity from the golden boy... After this, see PACMAN beat all those lightweights like Nate Campbell, Joan Guzman, the girlish talker JUANMA who couldn't accept his defeat SHAME ON YOU!!!!, KATSIDIS, CASAMAYOR bring them to the PACMAN.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:00:13 PM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  I'm sticking to my prediction, when he fought Diaz I didn't even give him any chance of winning not even the decision. So this time around I'm confident he will pull it off.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:01:02 PM
Real Talk:  Don Puto is 0 for 2 in his last 2 predictions. He should make a few picks before Pacman/ Golden Boy or he's gonna be 0 for 3
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:02:58 PM
Javier:  #1pacfan ,you guys go for Manny because is Fillipino, but saying that makes you look like you dont know anything about boxing, this is not David Diaz this is DLH a different level fighter ,i know why you guys dont know about boxing because you guys dont have champions only one, one, one! get it?,face reallity if Pac boy wins good for you but wait he is an elf no chances for him in a million years DLH could 100 yrs and still beat the midget. is not about been confident is about size and skills, power he doesnt have power to hurt DLH just too big, you guys make me sick.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:16:00 PM
Duke:  Common people.. Can't you all get it, this is one exciting and unforgettable fight of the decade.. This will answer and somehow erase all the questions doubts and critics about Manny Pacquiao's greatness.. Im calling all Pacman fans , De la Hoya fans and all boxing ethuisiast to stand together and show respect and support for this coming boxing event.. Common guys, dont judge people's dreams and inspirations.. What matters that no one will get left behind and get insulted on this fight.. Let show some class.. This is boxing and let's not forget this is a sport where the strong, passionate and determined individuals will show their true colors.. Lets get this thing done together.. Lets enjoy this
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:49:22 PM
Javier:  Duke, finally one that makes sense i agree 100%, lets wait and there will be no lossers because we will enjoy the show and hopefully a good one.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 07:53:16 PM
#1 Pacfan:  I'm not comparing D.Diaz with DLH.. I'm saying that I didn't give Pacquaio slight bit of chance winning that fight, this time around i'm giving him a chance of winning. Read my post carefully b4 you jump the gun. I am filipino but i like other boxers my favorite boxer was Oscar until he became more into money instead of his boxing career. This is not about race, and believe me i know more about boxing than you do.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 08:19:04 PM
donputo69:  yeah...you right real talk..im 0-2 in my last 2...but my overall record is outstanding...125-16....since 1984.....so i aint worried about 0-2...lol...thats nothing....but i aint picking a winner in the dlh pacman fight....im staying away from that....but i want pacman to win though....holla back!!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 08:20:47 PM
arch7enemy:  i was really shocked when the forbes-hoya fight. was made. forbes is a chicken boxer, he should be worried about himself. and to all experts(?) IF YOU DON"T LIKE THE HOYA-PACQUIAO BOUT, IT"S SIMPLE DON"T WATCH IT. WHO CARES ANYWAY.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 08:44:07 PM
juanitozespanol:  Yes, let all those who says that this fight is a mismatch bet all their money and all their assets and lets see if they can withstood wathing this fight live. Yes they will tremble for sure coz deep in their heart they know the PACMAN will simply retire the old man. PAC by a stunning KO in 6.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 08:48:08 PM
Hearns:  It's a mismatch! but it's a must to see the fight...lets get it on don't be kill joy...i know experts will watch this fight regardles of anything they say. Laban na!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 08:57:28 PM
Pac:  My gosh, experts or whatnot need to just SHUT UP...everyone needs to just sit back, relax, and wait until the fight happens...THE POINT IS, THE FIGHT WILL HAPPEN...so everyone is just wasting their time with these useless criticisms......I'm freaking sick of hearing about these BS criticisms....JEEZ, just SHUT UP experts and wait until the fight is OVER, then you can start talking.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 09:57:17 PM
Javier:  #1pacfan, Pacboy doesnt needs you to give him a chance, he will need more than that ,like to pray really loud and hard that the death can hear him, you said that you didnt compare him with David Diaz, no you are saying that you give a chance with DLH and not with David, DLH a different level fighter, he went 12 with the best hitters Trinidad, Vargas, Hopkings you mane it,those were big guys and now Pacboy?if you know about boxing dont go by heart go by knoledge, and then if DLH losses is because he was too old that will be the only reason,peace.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 10:19:25 PM
dela_cruz:  i bet all of this guys will watch the fight on dec.6 no matter how they disagree with the fight. LOL
Friday Sep 5, 2008 10:56:25 PM
Manny:  Hey! Javiera! You harlot! wanna fight me face to face? I will only use my left hand for you and tie my right hand. I'll make sure that your face will not be recognized.......@#%$&^*!!@#
Friday Sep 5, 2008 10:59:40 PM
Marv:  Pacman (Rocky Balboa) training for DLH (Ivan Drago) from Rocky 4. Pacman - the man who rose from poverty, who become a hero to his country, who fights for his people and God... VS GoldenBoy - the 10-time world champion, businessman, who fights for money My prediction: PAC by a stunning and inspiring KO... And to all you UNACCOMPLISHED haters: \\\\\\"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.\\\\\\" -- Theodore Roosevelt
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:08:49 PM
bobonx68:  The fight is ON!!! Pacman will make DLH like a punching bag, he's too big that Pacman can't hardly miss him even with his eyes closed...pacman will break all DLH's ribs and for the kill, dislodge DLH's jaw....just watch...don't blink coz it will happen too fast...
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:16:04 PM
goldenpacman:  experts kept on talking this fight favored to ODLH. as they think of a snow ball chance in hell for pacman to win...SHUT UP! pacman will win by DECISION.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:21:17 PM
FightFanWest:  Javier/ I agree with you once again. I like those match ups Anony and DonPuto69, like I said you should just become a matchmaker because u are making some classic bouts...lol Javier, the true boxing fans know that Manny can't beat any of those guys mentioned and you are right Manny is taking this fight with De la Sellout because he knows the other guys can and will beat him. He's fighting for the money. Has nothing to do with PRIDE as the filipino's put. I would not be suprised if all of this SCAM is a setup.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:23:26 PM
Rino:  We knew that Pacquiao Beats the Great Mexican Figthers....Mr. Oscar Dela Hoya doesnt one anyone to figth Manny Pacqiao exept only for the Mexican...So... Pacqiao is only for the Mexican and that is PERSONAL the mexican figthers cannot Accept defeat even by the facts. it's very true and it is very PERSONAL That figth between David and Goliath is PERSONAL...
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:28:48 PM
armpit:  javier you're a cruel @#*^%$$ !!! pacman ain't elf, he's a HOBBIT!! next time you post, clear your mind of bad emotions. hobbits have good survival rate, accomplish their mission and wins. just look at frodo of the lord of the ring movie. after knocking ozcar at 11, hopefully, he will face his fellow hobbit marquez, valero and other midgets of 135.
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:32:20 PM
Cute:  To all those people criticizing this fight!!! wait until december 6..... Until that time and the moment the fight finish..... then all your criticism will have the ultimate answer..... My prediction will be PACMAN by the most shocking Knockout in Boxing history!!!
Friday Sep 5, 2008 11:38:34 PM
donzky:  Shut up all you self proclaimed boxing experts! Just wait till itz over. Letz see who's arm will be raised and getz the last laugh. Go Pacman! Make us Proud. For history! For Greatness!
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 12:29:16 AM
tyson:  i like the matches(commentators) here! this should be at least PPV comments! both sides can hit low blow without getting disqualified. its like a royal ramble! you guys are so entertaining as the coming fight between pacman and the gold digger boy. but it is clear from my view point that the pacmans seems ahead on points already... next round!!
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 01:34:46 AM
kolokoy:  What if PACMAN will knock out The Golden Age?
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 03:11:43 AM
Ray Satorre:  Forbes is a dull fighter in the ring, he doesn't bang in any fight, he is not that marketable as PAC. DLH is bigger than PAC by around 20 lbs but MONEY is far far more bigger that they would have earned when fighting separately (ex. DLH-Margarito of PAC-Soto.) Both are loved by boxing fans and that MONEY is not that hard to spend despite of fuel crisis. Forget about MISMATCH, it's what we see when we don't earn anything like MONEY from this fight. Ask Roach, Arum, DLH and PAC: this is what they see all around the ring: $ $$ $$$ $$$$ $$$$$ . . .
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 03:32:53 AM
John:  If pacman wins this fight, one thing for sure, Mexicans will say Oscar is not in his prime already. Just like the previous fight with the other mexican champions, like barrera, Morales. This will be a good fight, If pacman will start early, I think dela hoya will fade in the later rounds. Dela Hoya will use the Jab to keep distance with manny, Believe me Manny will win this fight, and will set a history in Boxing. He will be remember as a great boxer of his time. Manny urged this fight to happen to make history in Boxing. I don't believe to what boxing expert say's. MANNY by UD
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 06:41:07 AM
Dhoods:  Steve Forbes 33 Wins, 6 Losses, 9 Knockouts. So don't compare Forbes to Manny.....His records shows that he is not that top caliber fighter like Marquez, Barerra, Morales & Diaz...Forbes is only a punching bag good only for tune-up fights......Manny Pacquiao with a shocking KO in the later rounds (A strong shot to the body)
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 07:15:24 AM
Real Talk:  Yeah Javier, Hopkins knocked him out with a body shot. Trinidad made him stop fighting(running like a chicken with it's head cut off),and Forbes (a lil man) broke his eye socket. Lets not forget about Mosley, Whitacker, Mayweather (so called midgets) all gave him fits. Combine that with the fact that his stamina is suspect at any weight, he aint made 147 in almost eight years and he don't like it to the body and things get pretty interesting. Your man Oscar could've fought someone in the welters but he chose to fight a (so call) easier opponent. Speed kills. Pacman UD 12
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 08:31:06 AM
ronnie:  most of the comments by the quoted persons except forbes are latino sounding. no wonder there's a dearth of kind words for the pac. elena reid a filipina? never heard her name before. these so called experts can't wait to witness the fight happen. giving such 'expert' advice/comments may be premature at this point. ever heard how some so-called experts ate their words or made 180 degree turnarounds after being proven silly by the results? marquez winning both bouts? ha ha. sorry you weren't appointed as judge in any of those fights. fortunately for the sport you weren't. anyway, you got my attention, albeit fleetingly for such remarks. do write more objectively in the future. cheers..
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 08:44:08 AM
Lindsay:  Pacquiao might not be strong enough or good enought to beat delahoya but he has a 100% chance of knocking out steve forbes. Pacquiao can beat campbell, juan diaz, casamayor, katsidis easy the only fighters that he is going to have some problems with would be joan guzman because he is a quick and slick and of course we all know that he barely beat juan manuel marquez ,but still beat him by a point on both fights, if only juan manuel marquez would trade with Pacquiao just like in the third round of the second fight then it would be over.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 08:49:44 AM
Xpirt:  Cummon man! how can you say your an expert and compare Pac to the likes of the other lightweights i.e. marquez, katsidis, diaz, antillon, campbell, guzman, casamayor? ... Hey, he will beat the lights out of these guys anyday ... no mas! Lets wait for the outcome of the Dec. 6 fight which will be very tough and then look forward for Hatton on 2009 and Mayweather Jr. to end Pac's career and establish himself as the greatest....
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 08:54:26 AM
Viel Mervic:  Marquez beat Pacquiao? Since when? Since the fans THINK that Marquez beat him twice? THINK? That's why there are OFFICIAL judges! Of course people will say Marquez won. And obviously, many people will say Pacquiao did beat Marquez twice too. SO does that mean they both won the fight?! Geez. That's why we are called FANS! We want our dawg to win! You want facts? Here it is: on their first fight, DRAW- but, judge Burt Clements ADMITTED he made an error regarding the three-knockdowns. Geez, so Pacquiao really beat Marquez... Number two: remember the 3rd round knockdown on the rematch? Oh yeah, FYI that's the difference on judge Tom Miller's scorecard, and that sealed the deal as a win for Pacquiao. No matter what people say, those are the FACTS. Marquez NEVER DEFEATED Pacquiao, and that's what history will say. BTW, as of now, I'm remembering all the names of boxers/trainers/promoters/experts that says "this fight is bad for the sport", that "Manny will be knocked-out cold", etc., and IF this fight turns out to be the best thing that happened to boxing, I'll make sure to tell "What is it you're telling about this fight again?". If not, then what the hell.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 08:54:57 AM
Viel Mervic:  So Forbes's an expert now huh? I guess he just won't accept if a guy smaller than him like Pacquiao can beat Oscar and he couldn't. He's correct that Marquez hurt Manny with body shots, but he forgot something: Manny was having trouble making weight, he was drained for that fight. Of course body shots can hurt him. It happens to many fighters. If Mr. Don Leonard happens to read this comment, I just would like to ask whether he could give me names of fighters that Guzman/Campbell/Diaz/Katsidis/Antillon recently defeated that can exceed the level of Manny Pacquiao, or maybe even to the fighters Manny Pacquiao beat? I would guess Mr. Leonard will have a hard time naming one. FYI We Filipino boxing fans DON'T HATE on other boxers. HATERS are the ones that force us to HATE OTHER BOXERS.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 09:09:59 AM
garypac:  Hey Mr. Forbes..your a loser to DLH!!! Just wait and see the outcome of the fight. Pacman will not be the no.1 P4P boxer for nothing. Try out pacman so you will be the one to encounter first time in your career to kiss the floor after this fight...ok???? Wait for your turn!!!!
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 11:17:46 AM
bill:  pac dosent have a chance against oscar .its a ridiculous match .as for oscar ,if he wants a challenge and be remembered ,fight margerito.he is the one that beat cotto which i didnt think he'd do so thats the real challenge for oscar .anyone whod pay for him and pacquiao is playing with a short deck. its insulting .
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 11:33:39 AM
jonmac:  way to go viel mervic. Nice one. to those haters who keep on blabbering that this is not a good fight, pls! go to other forums. No one's forcing anybody! And i myslef will remeber some of the names (writers, editors, etc) who doubt this fight. hehehe (for sure they ill buy the $1,500 ticket and if it turns to their favor you'll hear them "told yah!") .....we'll see.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 11:46:35 AM
Javier:  To Many you want to fight me ?you are probably on ELF too.hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 04:55:24 PM
Javier:  This is for all the Filipinos fans of Pacboy, i know that you go for him just because is Filipino and the only one for the past 1000 yrs, but when you gamble you dont gamble by heart you gamble by knowledge,all filipinos that i work with they like Pacboy but they bet on Oscar they know,they dont want to lose money, now QUESTION would you bet all you money on Pacboy ?f... no, SO IF YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT BOXING, IS TIME TO GET REAL AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT PACBOY DOESNT HAVE A CHANCE, YOU GOING TO LOOK SO STUPIT DEC 6,PEACE.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 05:05:41 PM
Javier:  One more thing i know i killed you guys with the last comment haha, if Pacboy was a natural 160lbs fighter right now as much as i like Oscar i would gamble on Pacboy, dont get me wrong only because DLH is 36 otherwise i bet on Oscar, did i finish you guys with this one you know this guy is right,hahahahahahaha i never lose. oh peace.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 05:12:06 PM
Yachi:  obviously, all quotes are in favour of the golden boy, here is a quote to remember, "expect the unexpected" and "impossible is nothing"
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 05:54:46 PM
Thinker:  Okay, everyone... calm down. Here's my take: it's ALMOST a given that a big guy will beat a small guy. But, here's the big but... if you were Manny, would you not take the fight that you are sure to receive $15million??? Come on! I'm no boxer. I'm a lazy middle-aged nerd but I will fight De La Hoya even without training for $10million! You dig??? Now, let's wait for Dec 6 you all attention-seekers!
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 06:49:52 PM
THE WIND:  HELLO LADIES, (PACMAN FANS) FIRST,FORBES IS A MUCH BETTER FIGHTER THAN PAC,SECOND,FORBES CAN KO PACMAN EASY! I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE LOOK ON ROACHES FACE WHEN OSCAR PUMBLES HIS FIGHTER. AND FOR ALL THE FANS OF PACQUIAO,IT WILL BE A SAD DAY IN THE PHILLIPINES. PAC IS GOOD AND YES ITS ONLY HAPPENING FOR THE MONEY!BUT I DONT BLAME OSCAR ONE BIT,I TOO WOULD GO FOR THE $ WHILE I CAN,THEN 5 DE MAYO TAKE ON MARGARITO AND LEAVE EVERYTHING IN THE RING! I BELEIVE OSCAR WILL HURT MRGTO IN A SLUG TOE TO TOE FEST! DELAHOYA IS A SMART BUSINESS MAN.LET THE MAN DO WHAT HE WANTS. PACQUIAO WILL BE A WEALTHY BEAT UP BOXER AFTER 12-6-08. 1,000.00 OSCAR WILL KO PAC WITHIN 6. PEACE.
Saturday Sep 6, 2008 10:52:37 PM
ed:  hey guys Im rooting for pacman but logically, i believe ODLH will beat manny (definitely not by a TKO). They say its a huge mismatch but just bring it on for us to enjoy the match. To all those who hate the fight to happen, you have your right not to buy the fight... Just be sure you will never buy the fight. But dont worry, I will not be surprised if you would... Enjoy life. We deserve it....
Sunday Sep 7, 2008 01:09:31 AM
JJohn:  I think pacman doing a great job knocking out big guys. Marquez is too small for him pac should not fight in that weight {130 lbs} again, that's why he didn't knock him out. I think he suits best in 147lbs. Pac would knocked out everybody at 147lbs.
Sunday Sep 7, 2008 01:38:21 AM
Jerner B. Mabaga:  who cares if pacman takes this fight for the money. this fight was just presented to him by dela hoya.its a big money why not take it , even loss or win it at the end. forbes must shut his mouth is just a has-been champion.
Sunday Sep 7, 2008 07:04:24 AM
Pete Steward:  Don Leonard, “There are about six lightweights I think that can beat Manny Pacquiao” Juan "CAN'T BREAK AN EGG IF HE DROPPED IT FROM AIR PLANE AT 30,000 FEET"Diaz? And Michael "BRUISES LIKE A GRAPE & HAS A CHIN BEIING SUPECTED BY F.B.I FOR BIENG MADE OF GLASS" Katsidis? Except for the Galaxy Warrior No one beat Pac at 135lbs or a 140lbs. And the other for 4 guys that can beat Manny are all true Welterweights, Ring Magazine top 4. And one them announced his retirement 2 months ago there by giving Manny the P4P Crown and causing this fight to take place anyway. Don do us all a favour. Stick to the Wacky world of MMA OKAY!...... Manny kills Oscar over 12 Bruising Brutal rounds. Thee end.
Sunday Sep 7, 2008 10:31:33 AM
blue4cor:  with the 4 knockdowns JMM suffered from Pac, why some people insists jmm wins? against chris john same claim. jmm barely escape victory over jimrex jacca. casamayor will be a hard nut to crack for jmm who don't trade.
Sunday Sep 7, 2008 10:03:56 PM
Isaiah:  I'm so tired of this stupid fight already, I may as well be talking politics in here. Obama/BIden or McCain/Palin? Think about it. John and Sarah. Like John and Sarah Conner off the Terminator movies. Arnold could walk into the Republican National Convention and say," Vote Republican if you want to live." Too bad Obama sucks and has no experience. Same with Sarah Palin though. Anyway, back to boxing, let me know when this mismatch is over.
Monday Sep 8, 2008 05:21:01 AM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  Javier you need to work on your writing skills, you don't make sense most of the time. Obliviously you don't know the history on boxing, Pac is not the only great fighter we've had. You ever heard of Flash Elorde? Don't think so. I watched UFC over the weekend and saw one of the biggest upset in MMA history. Liddle, getting knocked out cold. Now i see the same outcome but with decision in the Pac vs DLH fight.
Monday Sep 8, 2008 10:33:28 AM
Javier:  I had enough with hard head people like you #1pacboy, i dont follow filipino boxers, and when was this? 19th century? also Liddle lost to a big guy ,but Pacboy is a boy a nino to DLH in the middle of the fight he is going to ask for his bottle, bye i am done with you people because talking to you is like talking to drunk people, you just dont get it.
Monday Sep 8, 2008 02:49:45 PM
xavier:  they never approve my comments because i let them have it
Monday Sep 8, 2008 08:39:23 PM
Enrique:  Javier, its not a question of whos bigger or smaller. they will be both fighting at the same weight. Thus, whoever will be faster and has the stamina will eventually win. PAC fought at 145 lbs. in his last fight with David Diaz, and he was a perfect fighter at that weight. His punching power remained the same. DLH would have to go down in weight, he may or may not lose his punching power, but his stamina is a question because of his age. However, his reach will be to his advantage, he can jab all night and keep PAC far from hitting. With that said, let us just enjoy the fight on Dec. 6. Peace brothers!
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 03:55:14 AM
1hcam:  I will go back to this site after the fight to see what excuses the "experts" will say when the Pacman beats DLH. It will be same the old "he beat an old man" stuff just like when he demolished both Barrera and Morales. Suddenly they say that he beat a guy who went to a lot of wars and already past their prime. When in fact the opposition suddenly and miraculously grows old after one night of hell with the Pacman.
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 07:24:40 AM
1hcam:  These experts are like fortune-tellers who don't gamble their money on the lottery.
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 07:54:14 AM
Anonymous user:  :::::::::: MANNY "THE HOBBIT" WILL TASTE THE CANVAS FOR SURE AND LOOSE BY UNANIMOUS DECISION. THAT'S THE PRICE HE WILL PAY FOR THE MILLIONS HE WILL EARN. THEN HE WILL NEED TO GO HUMBLE AND FACE CAMPBELL... THAT'S THE FIGHT!!!! THE REAL FIGHT I MAY SAY CAUSE DLH IS MORE AN EXHIBITION. ALL FILIPINOS HERE ARE DREAMINGGGGG. ESPECIALLY RADAM G WHO WILL TRANSFORM TO "RADAM POO" ONCE HIS FIGHTER KISS THE CANVAS. HE WILL GO.. "OH MANNY PLEASE GET UP BEFORE TSS READERS KILL ME TOMORROW FOR BEING SUCH A BIG MOUTH AND BETTING ON YOU"... we will find that out in december, right?
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 09:53:30 AM
Anonymous user:  :::: YEAH... BETWEEN OBAMA AND MCCAIN I WILL CHOOSE MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WILL NOT BOX, HE WILL USE MMA OR UFC TRICKS ON OBAMA HOPING TO LAND ONE OF THOSE LUCKY PUNCHES THAT ONLY HALF WAY FIGHTERS USE TO BECOME A SOMEBODY. "PAC LEGEND" SAID A SUPERB FIGHTER GOT KNOCKED DOWN EASILY????? WELL.. THAT'S THE REALITY OF MMA OR UFC. I STAY WITH BOXING WHERE THERE IS CLASS AND HONOR, HEART AND ENDURANCE, PRIDE AND HISTORY. PAC LEGEND... PLEASE TAKE A BREAK, YOU WILL LOOK REAL STUPID AFTER DECEMBER 6TH.
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 10:03:22 AM
Javier:  I agree with you Anonimous user, i have not seen one Filipino here that says Manny will lose ,he will go the day of the fight weighing 147 and DLH 160lbs, if you show the picture of both fighters to a 5 year old kid he will say that the bigger man will win, not knowing the skills, but nothing is imposible in this life ,if the smaller guy wins wow!, what a guy, but you dont know that until after the fight , for now you guys shouldnt be saying that the smaller guy will win, just wait do not assure that Pacman will win,
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 03:02:17 PM
xavier:  you know whats funny i was on youtube and they were asking people perdictions on who was going to win between dlh and mayweather well its quite inresting because both freddie roach and manny picked oscar to win and you know what reason its was . hmm let me take a guess they both said oscar was bigger and stronger oh another thing people one time joked around at a manny post fight pressconfernce and asked him if he would fight dlh and he and his trainer said no because of the size difference what could have changed there mind maybe 10 million dollars . people dont get it twisted manny doesnt care about you or anybody who jumps on his band wagon all he wants is the fight to be over soon because the check cashing place closes at 10p.m
Tuesday Sep 9, 2008 03:55:44 PM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  Javier DLH can't weigh in at 160lbs otherwise he would have to owe Pac's camp 39 million dollars in penalty of the agreement they signed on the contract. Here the facts folks., it's the reach and height advantage DLH has over the Pac not the weight.
Wednesday Sep 10, 2008 07:55:16 AM
Javier:  I mean the day of the fight they can weight whatever they want no?
Wednesday Sep 10, 2008 04:25:02 PM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  Entering the fight.
Thursday Sep 11, 2008 08:17:06 AM
MANILA:  IM A FAN OF MANNY, REALLY PROUD OF HIM IN HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN BOXING , DLH AND PAC ARE BOTH GREATS, AND IMAGINE WHAT THESE 2 TOP CALIBER FIGHTERS COULD DO ONCE THEY CLASH INSIDE THE RING, ITS A BLOCKBUSTER! SO WHY THROWING THOSE INFLICTING COMMENTS, LETS JUST WAIT AND SEE AND ENJOY THE FIGHT, IETHER OF 2 DESERVES TO WIN,IF MANNY LOST, HELLO IT'S" OSCAR DELA HOYA". AND IF DLH LOST, MANNY JUST LIKE TO PROVE HIS WORTH AS A BOXER.
Wednesday Sep 17, 2008 08:33:57 AM
JR:  LOOK PACBOY ONLY FIGHT OLD GUYS ,HES O.K BUT NOT LIKE PEOPLE THINK HE IS .IF HE THINKS HES ALL THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT MARGARITO,HOTTON,JUAN DIAZ,SHANE, PAUL WILLIAMS THEN HE WILL BE GOOD .
Sunday Sep 21, 2008 11:31:49 PM
rik:  PACMAN vs DLH: Its a David and Goliath bout of the 21st Century. Height is a factor but power and endurance as well. Both critics of these fighters better watch. What we are about to witness is a tall guy beating a small guy or a small guy beating a tall guy.
Saturday Sep 27, 2008 07:45:20 PM
pacmania:  I AM A PINAY. I BELIEVE IN PACMAN NOT BECAUSE IM ONE BUT BECAUSE I KNOW MANNY HAS THE HEART OF A TRUE FIGHTER , DETERMINED TO GO AGAINST ADVERSITY.
Friday Oct 3, 2008 01:30:03 AM
ryan:  Pacman vs DLH? i think its a very great challenge for pacman... you can clearly see the big difference between them... DLH is too big for pacman.... if DLH win,NO BIG DEAL, its ok because his too big.. wat if PAcman win??,its a BIG ACHIEVEMENT... get the logic?? so lets just see on dec who won.. DAVID or GOLIATH...so guys please dont argue or throw comments that compares the 2 boxers.. BOXING is a SPORT...and it is played in the ring not in the gambling place full of drunken people...peaceout,
Thursday Oct 9, 2008 05:13:51 AM
jepoy:  ODLH will lose this fight due to endurance,quickness, stamina during the weight in wherein he will down to 147 lbs emagine guys this is very hard, odlh will hit into the canvas due to punchesa of pacman.
Saturday Oct 18, 2008 05:58:42 PM
Boxfan:  DLH will lose due to age and the weight difference isn't that bad. I've seen a lot of people get thier asses kicked with a weight difference, it's all over youtube. Anyways, Oscar is old and has nothing to lose. Oscar thinks that this fight is his opportunity to get in the Mexican people's hearts cuz all chicanos never concitered him a True Mexican fighter and the THE Pacdude is called the Mexican assasin. All these press idiots thats saying Pacman will lose is gonna say (Its age, Oscar is passed his prime) when Pac wins can lick my @ss. I hate press idiots, so called boxing experts that make excuses. Just admit you're idiots and kiss my brown @ss.
Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 07:37:33 PM
warrock:  go pacman
Sunday Oct 26, 2008 10:09:53 AM
GOD OF BOXING:  IM GIFTED BY PREDICTION MARK MY WORD PACQUAIO WILL WIN BY K.O....
Thursday Oct 30, 2008 09:58:34 AM
gugged:  comments of both parties,the answer-MAYBE
Saturday Nov 15, 2008 02:46:02 AM
Jesus Christ:  PACQUIAO MY BROTHER HAVE FAITH ...
Monday Dec 1, 2008 12:05:28 AM
Jude verzola:  Hey guys...I go with pacman,he is one of the living filipino legend in boxing history and infact he is the first asian boxer who holds the 4championship belts in 4 divissions!He is unpredictable fighter (mp)...So watch out for dela hoya kissing the canvas like the mexican victims who kissed the canvas so bloody mess...Pacman will win this match!...Good luck pacman fight wid courage and carry the flag of the phillipines!We're proud of you...
Thursday Dec 4, 2008 05:28:08 AM
11'0:  There is aan old adage that says a good big boxer will beat a good small boxer. sin fin
Friday Dec 5, 2008 02:21:17 PM
Anonymous user:  it is not because that i am a filipino then i should say that manny pacquiao will win. i am just tryijng to figure out that there is no way that manny pacquiao can beat oscar dela hoya. it is ridiculous that he fights the most talented and gifted boxer like oscar, what a pity on him.
Saturday Dec 6, 2008 05:55:16 AM
quiet-confidence:  Hey -- all of you Pac-man doubters and haters - how do you FEEL now???! I thought you said that Pac was definitely going down. This wasn't even a contest for Pac... Gentlemen, this is just the beginning of a new boxing legend in the making... Pinoy Power. Respect it.
Saturday Dec 6, 2008 11:30:11 PM
RR:  I am just curious what this guy, Javier (way above), has to say now?
Sunday Dec 7, 2008 12:10:38 AM
larm:  We are Filipinos and we watched Manny beat De la Hoya go down round by round. What a pity for we also adore de la Hoya.. but our Manny proved he is a real fighter.. . and so is de la Hoya.. And the negative comments for Manny made by anti-Pacman turned against de la Hoya.. this is another great moment for the Filipinos who love Manny win or loss. TO MANNY KEEP AWAY FROM POLITICS.. DON'T LET THEM RIDE ON YOUR FAME.. AND THE FILIPINOS WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU!
Sunday Dec 7, 2008 09:13:19 AM
master hunghang:  wuz happend? oh i see--y'all boxing gurus! bwahahaha!!!!
Tuesday Dec 9, 2008 06:44:55 AM
eewams:  Hey where's javier????? What do you feel???? I know you felt same as Oscar now... Hehehe....
Friday Dec 12, 2008 10:53:37 AM
pvramos:  Wtiter avila, your analysis is way off the mark and wrong. Actually, its the opposite. It was definitely not challenging, but for Pacquiao. DLH did not even win a single round. Pacman is truly a legend in boxing He tko a middleweight champion.
Saturday May 30, 2009 06:29:11 AM

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