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Wednesday Aug 20, 2008

Hatton's booked, Cotto's finding himself, Floyd's busy relaxing, Mora isn't a big-enough name and Margarito's a monster. That leaves Manny.

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Pacquiao Oscar's Only Option

By Ron Borges

According to Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, “Every fighter in the world wants to fight Oscar.’’

Oscar is, of course, his boss, Oscar De La Hoya, a man desperately seeking a final opponent with whom he can make one last big payday and retire with honor. But every fighter in the world, it seems, comes with some subtle but serious limitations.

Every fighter in the world does not include Manny Pacquiao, who recently rejected a 70-30 purse split to face-off with De La Hoya on Dec. 6 because he felt he was being offered what he termed on a website as “what only an up-and-coming fighter rightly deserves.’’

He went on to say he deserved a “fair share of the pie,’’ dismissing the roughly $10 million or so he’d be guaranteed as sliver rather than a slice.

Every fighter in the world does not include Ricky Hatton, who turned down De La Hoya’s entreaties even before he got to offer what would surely have been a similar sliver.

Every fighter in the world definitely does not include Floyd Mayweather, Jr., who retired rather than grant De La Hoya a rematch in September after out-pointing him in the highest grossing fight in boxing history.

So it seems “every fighter in the world’’ is a loosely worded assessment about who actually is willing to be De La Hoya’s final opponent. Certainly every fighter in the world without the kind of leverage of a Pacquiao, Mayweather or a Hatton wants to fight De La Hoya. Unfortunately, none of them provide what De La Hoya wants – which is glitz, glamour and a gladiatorial edge to them.

Certainly Schaefer would be correct in saying most fighters in the world want to face De La Hoya, including former Contender series champion Sergio Mora, whose people are all but on their knees begging for the chance if Mora defeats Vernon Forrest a second time in a Sept. 13 rematch.

But the fact of the matter is Oscar De La Hoya doesn’t want to fight every fighter in the world. He wants to fight only one of less than a handful of guys who would give meaning to the final match of his career. Frankly, Sergio Mora is not such a guy.

Mora is a nice fellow and a decent fighter but he is not the kind of name that draws attention. Would De La Hoya and he draw fans? De La Hoya and Sergio Iglesias would draw fans. De La Hoya and Sergio Garcia would draw fans. De La Hoya and Sergio Bustamante would even draw fans.

The point is De La Hoya and a scarecrow would draw fans but that is not really how he wants to go out. De La Hoya wants to go out with an epic victory. He wants a rematch with Mayweather, who he believes he would have beaten in their first fight if he’d been a bit bolder and a bit steadier with his jab, or a fight with the reigning pound-for-pound champion, Pacquiao, even though De La Hoya would have to get down to 147 pounds for the first time since he fought Arturo Gatti in 2001.

The fact that De La Hoya has already agreed to fight him at 147 and to use eight ounce gloves instead of 10 ounce gloves speaks to the point. This is an aging legend (fistically speaking) who wants one last shining moment, a fact he willingly admitted to Monday.

“I want a big fight,’’ De La Hoya told a crowd of reporters at his annual celebrity golf tournament in southern California. “I want to go out with a big bang. I want to make it an event.

“I want to make it a worldwide event because I want to show the boxing world and I want to show everybody around the world that boxing is alive and well.’’

What he also wants to show is that he remains more than just the biggest name in boxing. He wants to show he can win a big fight in boxing, something frankly that he has not yet really done.

De La Hoya has won many fights, six world titles and Olympic gold medal. He has earned more money than any boxer in history. He is a Hall of Fame fighter simply waiting for the ballots to come in. Yet the sad fact is he’s 0-5 when his biggest moments came.

The memory of losing to Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley twice, Bernard Hopkins and Mayweather cannot be erased by beating up Sergio Mora. You don’t face a guy fighting on the undercard of Joel Casamayor vs. Juan Manuel Marquez on Sept. 13 and claim it’s the equivalent of facing Mayweather. You don’t beat a guy who nearly lost to Peter Manfredo and try to argue it’s like beating Manny Pacquiao. Not even Oscar De La Hoya can pull that off.

In all honesty the only fighters who fit the role De La Hoya is trying to have filled are Mayweather, Pacquiao and possibly welterweight champion Antonio Margarito but De La Hoya has already made clear he wants no part of Margarito, which is a wise decision. De La Hoya claims it’s for business reasons. But the 6-1 Margarito is coming off a thrashing of previously undefeated Miguel Cotto and would be a nightmare for De La Hoya because he is bigger, at least as strong if not stronger, and a relentless, pressure fighter with an iron chin and a disposition not predisposed to make life easy for boxing’s Golden Boy.

At nearly 37, De La Hoya is not looking to give up his advantages, which at this juncture are height and power, to someone like Margarito, whose five losses and general lack of a wide public following beyond boxing’s gadflies make him less than ideal for De La Hoya’s purposes any way.

Pacquiao is the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world and Mayweather was his undefeated predecessor before he chose to retire. Either fit the job description De La Hoya has put out. Sergio Mora, any other Sergio you can come up with and nearly every fighter in the world do not. Margarito fits it less comfortably than even Mora because he is less well known to the general public and is far more dangerous.

With Mayweather retired and Hatton unavailable because of his Nov. 22 fight vs. Paulie Malignaggi, the fact of the matter is that rather than having every fighter in the world to pick from De La Hoya has only one – Manny Pacquiao.

If he can convince him to take the 70-30 split he’s already rejected once before or, more likely, can come up with a way to sweeten the pot without it publicly looking like he did so, De La Hoya will have the opponent he not only wants but the one he needs for one grand finale.

If he doesn’t, as Richard Schaefer said, he’ll have his choice of every other fighter in the world. Only problem there is most people couldn’t care less whom that might be.

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Anonymous user:  I have always wondered about DLH's ability. My impression has always been that he was built up by the media. Yes, he has many titles in different divisions but who were his conquests? Presumably, he would have chosen each with a view to having an advantage and acquiring a title. So his name grew big. Obviously, this is business and business includes the press. But when it comes to the truly good fighters, he falters. With Mayweather, I wonder what his pounding of the canvas was all about; it looked funny and sort of a way to say I did my best but I failed but I want you to sympathize with me in this loss so I can retain my honor, name and business. It would have been honorable to just accept defeat without theatrics as people can more sympathetically accept that everyone has limitations. It was just funnily obvious he was trying to save face. I also wonder if anybody else had similar thoughts about this. So with Pacquiao (MP), who stated that DLH knows he will have a good fight as he (MP) does not evade or he seldom takes a step back, he can have the blockbuster he seeks. And when MP loses as he did with Morales and took a draw with Marquez (albeit questionable), he did them with dignity, accepting the decisions and that this is just boxing. Granted that DLH has the bigger name, I sincerely believe that with my assessment of his career fights, the purse should be at least 55/45, not even the 60/40 MP is already happy about. See how they try to justify that MP will earn more than 4x a single bout with sombody else. Good that MP did not fall for this as he will really look pitiful. I'm regret I do not want to give my details. Maybe you might want to supply dummy details or anonymous.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 05:57:24 PM
BigDaddy:  Does Mr.Borges REALLY think that Oscar beating the much smaller Pacquiao will make up for other shortcomings in DLH's career? Give me a break.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 06:28:28 PM
donputo69:  why doesnt de la hoya fights trinidad?...didnt trinidad gave dlh his first lose?...they should meet at a catch weight between 150-158...we all know dlh will beat pacquiao...we all know dlh wants no part of margarito...we all know mora vs dlh will be a sleeper....so make it happen...***FELIX TRINIDAD VS OSCAR DE LA HOYA 2*** in yankee stadium....now that?.....is the fight that real boxing fans will love to see....ya wanna talk about a money fight?...there you have it.....holla back ladies!!!!!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 06:34:37 PM
Max:  This is the most truest article I've been looking for. Delahoya; 0 and 5. With so many advantages over MP, DLH initially wanted 10 ounce gloves? That says a lot about how much confidence he has.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 06:37:55 PM
rey :  I agree with you Ron it will be a big fight Asian people will watch Pacquiao fight and american people will watch Dela hoya its a huge event ! They are even close match i give 2 to 1 for Dela hoya but pacquiao will give him the fight that he wants that mayweather cannot offer.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 06:48:47 PM
shak:  go go go manny run run run dont fight oscar he just surely knock you out.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:00:51 PM
boxing:  Margarito is who dlh needs to fight.Dlh says he will not fight marg. out of respect for williams,that he feels marg. has unfinished buisness with williams.Well if marg. does not fight williams,maybe oscar should fight williams if he cares that much for him.Dlh says he cares about his mexican fans and that he is mexican,well then he should listen to all the mexican fans and fight margarito a deserving fighter.Fight somebody that is worth fighting,not a small man like pacman.De la hoya knows what it is like fighting a bigger man.Look what happened to him versus hopkins.He knows the advantage he will have against pacman.Pick on someone your own size,fight williams or margarito.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:05:19 PM
gary show:  Yeah, Mr. Dela Hoya could, should or would have lost to Felix Sturm (who?), Ike Quartey and even Sweet Pea Whitaker if he was not the Golden Boy of boxing. If Golden Boy wants a grand exit, he must face only the best opposition with the least amount of risk and that could be Pacquiao. And then, there is the vengeance factor, stopping the Great "Mexicutioner" in his last fight. For Pacquiao, he deserves parity, the proposed 60-40 split is just fair because Pacquiao is also well-loved in Mexico among other places. It will be a very high-risk job for the Pacman and that means, for a high-risk, high-grossing job, the pay should also be as high. That's fairness!!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:08:24 PM
riel:  it is better to changed the offer to 65-35 split in between of 60-40 by team pacquiao & 70-30 by team Golden Boy. Maybe team pacquio will utmost agree.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:19:24 PM
DCRJ:  Both Oscar de la Hoya's and Manny Pacquiao's pride and coyness are taking such a toll for the dream fight to come into fruition. It's really about the legacy on both fighters, I hope they both stop bickering about finances, money isn't everything.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:22:20 PM
mikey:  Great read. If he fights Mora or anybody else might as well not.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:22:57 PM
DCRJ:  Both Oscar de la Hoya's and Manny Pacquiao's pride and coyness are taking such a toll for the dream fight to come into fruition. It's really about the legacy on both fighters, I hope they both stop bickering about finances, money isn't everything.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:24:20 PM
Justin:  I would love to see Oscar fight Hatton but we won't see Hatton at 147 and we won't see Oscar at 140 to bad. Pacquao would be nice but if Oscar beats him people will say he beat a lightwieght!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Question is the Hatton fight with Paullie on HBO or pay per view???????????????????????????
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:28:59 PM
ben kisla:  i really feel this is going to be an exciting match despite the size difference...after all, boxing is purely entertainment, let's start the ball rolling...Both fighter has the chance of winning, Pacquiao has the speed while Oscar has the size...let's give this fight a chance, let's give Oscar his last fight..he deserves it!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:37:59 PM
Anonymous user:  oscar fight marg or p. williams,somebody your own size.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:39:27 PM
JanGabriel:  CMon GUYS!!! "Pro Boxing is beyond Sport, it is a profession"! ODLH vs PACman is fighting for no Alphabet Title. They r fighting for fame, history & MONEY!. I suggest to spice up on this bout. let OLDH get 60% & PACman 30%. The remaining 10% will be there price whoever win the fight....
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:42:09 PM
erwin :  As one die hard fans of boxing, we do not consider the price fight, we want some historical fight and most exciting fighter in the world. Oscar and Manny is perfect match.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:44:26 PM
mosaic:  perhaps you want to fight oscar too mr bigdaddy? your name is clearly a compensation for something.. too bad justin.. hatton isn't like manny. it will be the lightweight beat the middleweight at welterweight ;)
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:54:52 PM
Jan:  CMon GUYS!!! "Pro Boxing is beyond Sport, it is a profession"! ODLH vs PACman is fighting for no Alphabet Title. They r fighting for fame, history & MONEY!. I suggest to spice up on this bout. let OLDH get 60% & PACman 30%. The remaining 10% will be there price whoever win the fight....
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:55:39 PM
jal111:  Oscar is so greedy. He should give Pacquiao 40 % not the 30% he is insisting. Maybe people forgot that Oscar is still has a cut on that 40% Pacquiao is earning. That's part of the settlement with Top Rank(the tug of war between Golden Boy and Top Rank for promoting Pacquiao's fights), if Pacquiao is fighting fighters from the Golden Boy Promotion they are entitle of a part he is earning.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 07:59:04 PM
Gas Gangrene:  I could care less about Oscar. He's not been relevant for years. We need to go back to the Clinton administration for his last big win - first term.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:01:58 PM
Quebec J.:  You're right Mr. borges, Oscar has only one option and its Manny. Well, for me Manny is right in demanding a fair share of the pie since it will also make everybody realize that the time has come for us to consider the pacman's resume. It is quite much better than any fighter today in terms of the quality of opponents he'd faced and more importantly in the manner of demolishing them.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:03:27 PM
obi:  i think this fight should happen i think it would be great for the sports, but about the money issue since they both think they can beat each other then they should just split the money to 60-40 or 70-30 but the winner should get the larger amount. i think it is fair and it would make them a lil bit more motivated and im pretty sure it would a be a great fight better yet split it to 80-20 then we will see, who's the true warrior.... what do you think oscar?
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:04:12 PM
rcap:  Excellent article Mr. Borges. With the excitement of pacman's devastating ko fight against david diaz at fighttime weight of 146 lbs,, one can easily figure out what will happen. ODLH vs Forbes at fighttime weight of 150 lbs is so sluggish and without power. Let's go for it for a real world event to happen - arguably, the biggest in boxing history.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:10:26 PM
luigi:  I think oscar is sick, giving 70-30 share to pacman is a part of he's imaginations.. I tihnk someboDy needs to remind him that pacman is the pound for pound best boxer, even if w/out the retirement of floyd, pacman will be the best pound for pound fighter.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:16:00 PM
terry:  we all know that pacquiao is no match to oscar .if he really want to have a memorable fight its not from pacquiao.This is not a boxing ,this is all about MONEYYYYYYYYYY.I
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:29:47 PM
Ryanboxingfanatic:  Oscar (37) move down from 154 to 147 pounds and Manny (29) move up from 135 to 147 pounds.. what a great fight, the legend vs the reigning pound for poung king!! lets get it on!! lets get ready to rumble!!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:30:56 PM
bocag:  fight for money.. what kind of sports is boxing???
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:32:05 PM
mike:  I hope to see Oscar fight Pacquiao. It would be rich in excitement, international flavour, history and fear for the fate in the ring, actually, for either.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:32:56 PM
bugs:  i think Oscar wants to suffer like David Diaz had
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:40:49 PM
mark:  yp Pacquiao is the only one to fight dela Hoya, Nothing else! So make a deal, signed the contract, as a Filipinos we cant wait that moment bringing Manny to the highest level of his career. Just make it done............
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:41:53 PM
colt45:  at whatever angle you would look at it... all signs are leading into that direction... DLH-Pac will be the thing on 6 December... not even the Russian troops in South of Ossetia can stop it...
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:45:06 PM
Carl Gabat:  Tell Dela Hoya to give Pacquao the 30 split, he keep the the 60 split and the winner donates the 10 percent difference to their favorite charity. Every one "saves face!" gets most of what they want and can accept a deal with being embarrassed. Or the 10 percent difference can go to the winner of the bout! mor incentive to win for each fighter!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:46:43 PM
Gustav:  Richard Schaefer & Oscar should be hang together. ..they're both a disgrace in boxing.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:48:06 PM
Carl Gabat:  Tell Dela Hoya to give Pacquao the 30 split, he keep the the 60 split and the winner donates the 10 percent difference to their favorite charity. Every one saves their dignity, gets most of what they want and can accept a deal with being embarrassed. Or the 10 percent difference can go to the winner of the bout! more incentive to win for each fighter!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:49:23 PM
Mensa boy:  good read...excellent insights...this is one article that is well thought of
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 08:50:53 PM
Erudite:  Make it interesting ... 60% - 30% and the last 10% to the winner. Golden Boy Promotion will be making money off the top as the promoter which goes to DLH anyway. If it's really all about the boxing (which obviously it's not) then fight Margarito.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:04:43 PM
thorne:  Isn't it clear enough??? ODLH wants a fight that can generate the biggest MONEY & the biggest EVENT in boxing world... he doesn't care about LEGACY or winning, as long as he ended his career with overflowing MOOLAH! and a getaway retirement in Mars. get it???
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:08:47 PM
CV:  Sweeten the pot! and lets get it on for PACMAN. I'd love to see all those doubters scratch their heads on saying that PAC won't be competetive or even beat DLH ... Losers! ... I'll watch this on PPV for sure ... count me in ...
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:15:39 PM
mosaic:  Its the lightweight vs the middleweight at welterweight. Luckily pacman can go 147 and 140. That's why he's going for both De la Hoya and Hatton. And when the smoke clears at 135, he'll go next against the lightweight supreme.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:20:24 PM
techboy:  Pacquiao-Dela hoya will happen, Pacquiao is destined to defeat ODLH on his final fight, and Pacquiao will become one of the greatest in the history of boxing.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:20:31 PM
morny:  people should not be scared that if odlh beats pacman, he beats a smaller fighter, c'mon!!!!!!. pacquio has already proven what he can do in the ring. marquez could even be more dangerous than odlh fighting pacquio. oscar is bigger but he is slow and past his prime. so let's get it on.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:23:19 PM
Dsource:  The thing is, ODLH won't beat Pacquiao. They can easily use the Pacquiao camp' s statements that they can beat ODLH and use that to sell the fight and that Manny is really a legit opponent regardless of his size. There's no shame in sayin "well the P4P king wanted me so I gave him what he wanted and beat him up!" after he beats Pacquiao. You gotta understand that it is Pacquiao and Roach who wants this fight so if ODLH backs out it would be more damagin cause people will just think he was afraid of a little guy and made it virtually inconceivable for them to fight by raising his price too much just so he can duck the guy. By strafing this match-up vs. Pac, Pac would've already won without even climbing the ring. IT WOULD BE STUPID for ODLH to take 90% of 30 million to fight Mora than 60% of 100 plus million versus Pacquiao. Oscar is a businessman right?! So what other reasons does he have for ducking Pacquiao??!?!?! He's afraid to lose to a little guy and go out like a fool cause he knows deep in his gut a fight with Pacquiao is DANGEROUS!!!!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:27:01 PM
dandy pastolero:  if De la Hoya wants a big event figth on his retirement...He must fight nothing more but the only big boxing star on the planet Manny PACQUIAO. The fights will be known for a life time.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:27:14 PM
nes:  Dear Sirs, The De La Hoya/Pacquiao fight is not good for boxing! it will create a precedent and endanger boxers in the future who will try to fight opponents bigger that them just for the money and that - will signal the slow death of boxing. I suggest that Oscar de la Hoya either retire or just fade away or bang it up with Antonio Margarito. If he has balls, he'll take Margarito and if he doesn't have, take Pacquiao or do a Mayweather way of fading.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:34:34 PM
I Box in Manila:  There is no doubt that, if the Dela Hoya/Pacquiao agreement materialize, it would be a win/win for both of them. Oscar can retire with pride (win or lose), Manny on the other hand, will go home a rich man - laughing his way to the bank.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:35:16 PM
morny:  i firmly believe pacman will time and again prove to all the doubting Thomases that he is one of kind. So much has been said about ODLH and pacman duel, so i think this scenario has reached the 'point of no return," so let's get it on.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:40:06 PM
Anfernee:  I doubt Dela Hoya will be able to resist the PACMAN
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:43:21 PM
yanort:  DLH is a chicken ; afraid of margarito
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:43:54 PM
jonixx fr. davao city:  ilove to see manny versus oscar if this fight happen paquiao will make history for the sport of boxing and im very confedent that he will kick oscar ass!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 09:57:38 PM
edwin:  Breaking news.... Oscar dela hoya vs. Antonio Margarito. Purses 90-10 in favor of THE GREEDY DELA HOYA.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:09:14 PM
Mike:  With a slower DLH I am sure Pacman will give him a good fight and might even knockout DLH. It will be one of those fights whom people will say, "awesome fight, only if Pacman did not ran out of gas" or it could be the other way around too... Pacman is a warrior and he will not back down against DLH which will make this an unforgettable fight.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:13:24 PM
buboy:  the point is,margarito couldn't match the impact of pacman in the ring and DLH is choosing the much smaller,easier to defeat paquiao but fighting manny could make him(DLH) more money prior his retirement...and....if he really wants to fight manny,give the man wants.60-40 split.everybody would love to see them fight in the ring.freddie roach is good in tactics and predictions...go manny!!!!!!
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:16:05 PM
fidel:  we want OSCAR and MANNY showdown.... Give PACMAN what he deserves..
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:18:14 PM
dave:  dela hoya can't made a mega fight or a much more money if he didn't fight pacquia, pacquiao is the only one who can make his farewel fight memorable and tripple mega box money...so if i where de lahoya he will accept the 60-40 deal...
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:21:11 PM
Charlie:  With a slower DLH I am sure Pacman will give him a good fight and might even knockout DLH. It will be one of those fights whom people will say, "awesome fight, only if Pacman did not ran out of gas" or it could be the other way around too... Pacman is a warrior and he will not back down against DLH which will make this an unforgettable fight.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:21:35 PM
manny23:  i like to see oscar vs paquiao to be fight of he year. and part of the boxing history.to settle things out i think its ok to cut the purse from 70/30 to 65/35 thas for bussiness... two slugger figther is for the boxing afficianados want tosee... thanks hope to make it done..
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:21:51 PM
eliezer T. Semine:  It would be fair if de la Hoya would take Manny for a 65 - 35 purse split if the the later wins. But if Manny loses, he'll only get 30.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:25:16 PM
ranz:  I would love if the two fighters will go halfway, just a suggestion, 35-65, manny for god's sake take it, you will make this fight a memorable on what ever the outcome will be because the entire world will keep on talking about this fight, show it to the world that boxing is alive. Lastly, manny and oscar can create a global outcome.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:25:54 PM
dave:  dela hoya can't made a mega fight or a much more money if he didn't fight pacquia, pacquiao is the only one who can make his farewel fight memorable and tripple mega box money...so if i where de lahoya he will accept the 60-40 deal...
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:26:20 PM
jun:  go go go...Oscar vs Manny........
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:32:36 PM
Julius:  If DLH beats pacman, he will the the only mexican you beat the mexicutioner.. it will looks like a revenge for mexican.. and remove manny as a number 1 pound for pound king
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:35:37 PM
BOIEMACHO:  IF DE LA HOYA IS INTERESTED TO FIGHT PACQUIAO, HE SHOULD OFFER HIM A 65-35 SPLIT. CASE CLOSE.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:38:09 PM
bing:  Im hoping that fight between Oscar & Manny will push thru,it would be the biggest fight of the year.most popular fighter vs. no.1 pound for pound fighter.why not?lets bring them on..
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:39:02 PM
jan saceda:  give Pacman the more than one-third of the pie, and he would give boxing the greatest fight of the decade! even greater than that of Mayweather. ODLH doesn't need to be greedy this time. give a 60-40 sharing, old Oscar, or 65-35, and you'll be knocked down by the P4P Champ, and then you retire with a loss in scorecards :-p.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:39:09 PM
camron_892000@yahoo.com:  This fight is a waste of time dlh would win by knockout in the 5th round. Dlh should fight roy jones jr or winky maybe shane mosly
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:45:41 PM
loi largo:  manny can easily win against oscar...im sure oscar is scared to fight manny.....that's reality....
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:49:34 PM
PETER LIYO:  Hoping to see Oscar fights Pacquiao... It will be a great fight which Manny will win against him...Even if Oscar is bigger Manny will win in a unanimous decision...
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 10:59:49 PM
SammyU:  Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar de la Hoya, I'll buy the HBOPPV even though is $ 100.00 dollars if Oskie fights other boxer I'll better wait the result in the Internet. Manny P. be firm in your stand to get 60/40 if not no fight.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 11:01:44 PM
juanitozespanol:  Yup.. the only logical fighter left for ODLH is Manny Pacquiao. Its a dream fight boxing fans are craving for. Mind you gentlemen, Oscar will go to dreamland once he taste the fast and furious Pacman.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 11:05:09 PM
Dr. Votts:  Oscar is a Coward!!! nuff said
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 11:08:36 PM
Buratski:  Margarito will beat the hell out of ODLH, PACMAN is good in his division but overrated in this class, he's just simply too small for welterweight. I like to see Arum beat the hell out of Schaefer though.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 11:34:38 PM
Tobio_Jay:  odlh has no option left. he need to fight pacquio or he's dream exit will be gone. for pacquio there are a lot of boxers that he can fight and generate money like ricky hatton and campbell. he can also persuade mayweather for a match. give the 10% to me and let the fight begin.
Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 11:55:44 PM
Jojo Napala:  Oscar Delahoya is just really coward. He knows that he's already done and old so he wont fight Manny Pacquaio. For our opinion Delahoya will be knockout By Manny bec Manny is faster and younger than him. But still this is still a nice fight that everybody should be able to watch. How come Oscar rejected this kind of fight? Manny is nothing on this want. This is all about the pride. Comon! Oscar let this fight comes to real. Dont be a coward.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:09:07 AM
ptnginanyu:  give pacman hes 40% and im requesting dec 6 off. lets get it on.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:14:27 AM
Rhino:  Well said on this article. Manny vs. Oscar is a fight that should happen. The compromise to consider is Oscar 65/ Manny 25 the 10 percent will be for the taxes to be paid to Uncle Sam for fighting in the U.S. or to the winner's charitable contribution. Gentlemen, if you fight in the U.S. EVERYONE gets taxed.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:20:02 AM
people power:  Promoters Golden Boy and Arum, what are you waiting for? Christmas? This will be your best Christmas present for us boxing fans. Just get the De La hoya/Paquiao fight finalized already please! Millions of boxing fans are all hyped up and excited already to see this blockbuster fight of the decade happening. I for one would get Direct TV installed and buy your PPV if live tickets at MGM ran out. It's the most exciting fight ever which any serious boxing fan shouldn't miss! It's The Last Mexican Standing vs The Mexicutioner, Davis vs Goliath, Size vs Speed, P4P King vs HBO King, Filipino vs Chicano, Pacquiao vs De La Hoya,...etc.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:26:12 AM
Mr. Neuman:  well i love to see Richard Schaefer vs. Bob Arum showdown.. i'm sure that makes history
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:33:03 AM
Let get it on!!:  Pacquiao-DLH would certainly beat records!! All nations will watch this particularly Philippines, USA, Mexico and probably the rest of Asia!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:38:14 AM
Zimo:  DLH/Schaefer just give the 60/40!!! I love to see DLH fight again! God will exceeds those figures for sure. Cammon...just make it HAPPEN!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 01:08:56 AM
Iriga City Boy:  Oscar De La Hoya 's greatness is a byproduct of a media hype.This boxer is not that good.His wins never impressed me.Strum could have won that fight.The European got robbed.Oscar wins over average fighters and boxers who are on the decline.But when he fought boxers who can pull their own triggers(Hopkiins,Mosley,Trinidad,Mayweather), he misfires and rans on empty diesel.When Hopkins hit him on that side of the stomach,he folded and made a face as if to tell the crowd,"sorry guys,i can't continue,because i got hit by an 18 wheeler".Did he pound the canvas again? I think he did!! Oscar,prove to us that you are great!! You need to fight Pacquiao!! Do the "Dennis Principe principle(Filipino Sportswriter): Give the 10% differrence,between you and Pacquiao to the charity you guys like after the bout. This monumental fight needs to come into fruition.And let the world see who is brave. Mr.Borges,nice column.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 01:31:45 AM
PINOCHIO:  oscar's reason for not giving pacquiao his proper share of the purse is because he is really just afraid that this fight would push through. he is really just a coward who wants to fight opponents where he will surely have an advantage. just a suggestion, why not fight mike tyson, this will surely become a circus at the ring. both benjamin faced boxer dueling it out like clowns trying to impress the crowd with their boxing theatrics. after the fight, it would be in the headlines which will read "last fight, lost ear". surely everyone will remember both fighters. why not just fight Rocky Balboa. why not fight in the ufc. the fact is, De La Hoya will surely knock out pacman even without the single punch thrown, just let him sing the american national anthem or whatever national anthem he wants. it would even knock out all the audience and will break their eardrums for sure.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 01:36:57 AM
amadeuz:  ODLH-MP Fight ..Circus of the century..
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 02:17:11 AM
Yurboo:  For me, I would also love to see Oscar fight Pacquiao because there both best fighter of boxing even the size, weight and reach are difference. But believe them they can gives to all boxing fans an enjoy and excitement. Though pacquiao is a smaller fighter compare to delahoya but he can do what he want to their heart. I choose pacquiao to beat delahoya because he knows everything what to do inside the ring. He has already keys and factors on how to win on December 6, 2008. Lets bring it on!!!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 02:41:40 AM
bben:  ODLH is really wise wanting himself all the advantages, height, weight, punch impact, money almost everything in his favor. Pacman is also a crowd drawer not only him, ODLH deserve to fight Margarito of his size, Marga.... has just won his last fight via knockout, so, he deserve to fight Margarito to prove he is still a worthy fighter... He is choosing a small man knowing he has all the advantages for a win...I will not respect him as a fighter coz he is scared...he must resign from boxing now...he is just fooling the fans around the world...he just wanted moneeey...
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 03:25:52 AM
mp3streamers:  DLH wants a big fight? why not wait in 2009 and fight joe calzaghe? hahahha LOL
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 03:37:28 AM
Cooloogoo:  mayweather got 30%(?) for his fight with DLH.. MP would need 4(?) major future fights to earn the purse offered him.. GBP still gets(?) a slice of MP's purse.. 2.5M(?) PPV buys for PBF-DLH.. MP is the current P4P king(?).. Bob loves, hates, loves, hates Oscar.. MP's the Mexicutioner(?).. Oscar's mexican who wants(?) to fight neither a fellow mexican or puerto rican.. Pacman is not yet ripe for the pickin'.. I'd still say DLH may still fight Cotto..
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 04:26:37 AM
fire:  go go go ODLH vs PACMAN
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 04:34:56 AM
noel balcera:  may offer to ODLA vs PAC was 70 & 30 but winner take the 70% total price of the fight.It is not necessary for other math computetion its real WINNER TAKE THE HING PRICE.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 05:48:58 AM
Latinsigi:  Dude.. I have always like ODH but fighting PAC is a Joke... The people want to See Margarito or Trinidad or Shane somebody that will give him his run.. nothing else if he fightts PAC I will not see it..
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 05:54:29 AM
skullface_killah_1999:  pac vs hoya... lets git it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 05:54:56 AM
ganirends:  I WILL BET MY WHOLE NOVEMBER PAYCHECK FOR "lil pac".
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 06:43:34 AM
SignDaContract:  OSCAR is simply being greedy. The 70/30 is just not fair! This will be the biggest boxing bonanza and hes giving PACMAN 30% split? Good thing that PACMAN doesnt bit this bs offer. PACMAN doesnt need OSCAR, OSCAR NEED MANNY BADLY! Manny still have big fights ahead of him and quite frankly he doesnt need that stupid 30%. Its not about the money for PACMAN, its about fair share, but for OSCAR its truely is about the $. Anyways, fight will happen, OSCAR doesn't have a choice, if he wants his big final fight it mut be with MP. Watching OSCAR last fight, i think pacman will shut him down, forbes doesnt punch hard and is not as quick as PACMAN and yet he landed some crisp shot to DLH face. PACMAN even in superfeather weight always come in at figt night at 145-147 welterweight limit so he is used to this weight. PACMAN will have his speed power and stamina, OSCAR will have his hands full and probably get embarass by the smaller fighter from Philippines. Anywas, cant wait to see this fight, i'll pay even if its 100$ in PPV!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:20:18 AM
jenette_gensan:  Should I bet my year end bonus too??? :-)
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:21:23 AM
Anony:  ::::::::::::::::: GIVE THE FANS THE FIGHT THEY WANT :::::::::::::::::: TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! :::: AN HONORABLE AND PROFITABLE FIGHT :::::::::
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:31:40 AM
rowena garcia:  Oskee has a 60-40 chance of winning against pacman. But I'll bet this will be far more exciting than Floyd-Oskee. So just give manny a bigger slice of the pie. In fact Oskee will generate more on PPV than with Mora or anybody.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:46:01 AM
HBO 24/7 COUNTDOWN:  DeLaHoya-PACQUIAO , the world awaits II.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:50:12 AM
Anony:  ::::::: TO ALL FILIPINOS HERE : BE TRUE TO YOURSELF :::::: You should realize DLH is way bigger than Pacman and still has a decent punch (look what happened to steroid kid Vargas). Pacquiao might even get hurt and that's not funny or worth millions. Remember Oscar will come out to knock him OUT as part of "the glory" of his last fight. So... you should care more for your idol's health before pushing for this mismatch. Now... what about Sergio Mora? Mora is not in the "legend" category, there is no glory of fighting a guy who is not in the top or proven. And Mosley did win two times to him and a third one will be a sorry a$$ way to say "bye". Hopkins is not interested. So what is left and makes sense from the fans point of view and from the business point of view. TITO vs. OSCAR II. I'm telling you guys... if Oscar wins he will retire avenging his "dubious" lost to Tito redeeming himself in front of the world. If Tito wins and Oscar do a brave fight (not running around), everybody will still love both of them. The two boxing poster boys of the 90's!!!!! What will be a good name for this fight???? ::: OSCAR VS. TITO :: FIGHTING FOR THE GLORY :::: Yes I know, I should work for Don King and Golden Boy... I just gave them the key to a good profitable fight and decent PPV show. TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 08:01:42 AM
Jata:  I AM the no 1 fanatic for PACMAN.....everytime im his fight, i always anticipating and until now i'm hopefull to make a big fight lke this,,,,,, For me, manny still strong for this fights...and i believe he can beat de la hoya....go manny.....your speed and power is unpredictable during your fight night..roach and your team pacquioa is there to give a super-condition training....hehe humanda ka de la hoya......
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 09:29:48 AM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  Let the fight happen already even though I don't agree with it too much. Don't ge me wrong it will be an entertaining fight but my man can regret he wanted this fight. But I have confidence in him that it will be SPLIT DECISION OVER OSCAR. THEN WE'LL SEE PACQUAIO VS mayweather @ 140lbs FIGHT OF THE CENTURY
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 09:32:38 AM
Robert Curtis:  Oscar should fight Margarito. Oscar can beat Margarito. Margarito is a young bad-a$$, but he's not in the same league as Oscar was/is and never will be. Maybe I'm crazy? But in any case, it would be a worthy fight for both men. Sign a contract and start promoting now. Do some of that HBO 24/7 hype and keep replaying the tornado tearing down Cotto. It may not produce the biggest payday, but it will damn sure be a healthy one and Oscar can keep a bigger cut.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 09:45:13 AM
Robert Curtis:  On the flipside, Manny could beat Oscar. Yes. That's right. I say Oscar beats Margarito and Pacman beats Oscar all in the same short breath. Why? Because Margarito is just a big young plugger who will be out of his league against a true legend. Now in the case of Manny vs. ODLH, youth WILL triumph because Manny is the same kind of champion that Oscar was, maybe better?
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 09:57:15 AM
Stokes:  I WILL NOT BE BUYING THE OSCAR AND PAC CIRCUS SHOW!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 11:02:46 AM
Radam G :  Wow! Bob Curtis, I agree with you. I guess the air in China is playing tricks on my mind -- just kidding! I been drinking too much sugar cane juice and coconut juice -- not tuba (coconut wine). Holla!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 11:16:53 AM
Radam G :  Big Money O is business smart, not hurt business stupid. He knows that Pera Pac would not go for a split that is that large. Big Money O has a trick up his sleeves. Pera Pac is hoping that Fatton Hatton can get rid of Magginaggi ( purposely misspelled). You see he will then kayo Hatton for a record purse of 100 million dollar. Holla!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 11:26:04 AM
The Real Deal:  Most people on here don't want to see that garbage fight. That's great to know because if the public don't buy it then the fight won't happen. For the people that do want to see the fight happen, it's sad because now I understand why boxing has slipped over years. I ask all of those who want to see the fight, why do you want to see Pacquaio fight a man that he really doesn't stand a chance of beating. This is not like Roy Jones going up to heavyweight and fighting John Ruiz, or Hopkins moving up to fight Antonio Tarver. I will say it once again, Oscar is truly a COWARD and a QUITTER!! When you spend time on the canvas hitting the canvas why couldn't you try and get up. I remember hearing Oscar in an interview saying that the reason he's coming back is the fact that he has never been in a war and for some reason he wants thats. Oscar is very good at fooling the public. He twist words around like he wants a big fight, there's 2 meanings for big a fight. 1. a big fight could be with Margarito, Williams a war. 2.A big fight could mean in the box office as far as ticket sales Pacquiao,Hatton. I really wouldn't spend a dime on watching Pacquiao/Delahoya. But I would pay $60 on ppv to watch Delahoya/Margarito or Williams. Like Terry said We know Pacquiao would be NO match for Oscar..It's all about MONEY!! Greedy Delahoya. I only thought Bullies picked on smaller guys!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:03:53 PM
gary show:  This fight will break box-office records for sure with the HBO 24/7 hype-type!!!! I read Manny's piece and I really believe that this fight will be more exciting than the Oscar-can't-pull-the-trigger-Dela Hoya Vs. Floyd Catch-me-If-you-can Gayweather fight because Pacquiao will always be right in front of Dela Hoya for a Macho vs Macho fight. Unless Dela Hoya starts running, too
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:20:43 PM
Girduti:  C'mon Pac-ODLH proposed fight hater.......I'm pretty sure you're too excited to watch this fight. Don't be too hypocrite... Both of them wanted money and legacy.....Why not? They're the ones who are gonna be fighting.....I'm sure you are wonderin' also what would the outcome of this fight be..Right? Oh c'mon....! Don't deny it!!!!! Just make a ride into it.....watch it and you're gonna enjoy it...surely!!!!! What a fight it would be!!! Wanna lose this opportunity to witness such a great fight??? then go to the streets and protest....A CIRCUS? so be it!!!! are u sure?? U might not get back into your seats while watching it.....tsk. tsk. tsk. !!!!! You are used to watching the Golden Boy with his own size with some L and W. Why not see him fighting a little giant? Go and save some penny. U still have less than 4 months to make it.....so u may enjoy and will not be the most pity of the pity people.... Ayt dudes!!!!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 12:54:31 PM
JESS RAMOS:  I suggest that they split the pie with 2 different scenario. If Dela Hoya wins , Pacquiao gets 30%. If Pacquiao wins, he gets 40%. I think this will be a fair deal.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 01:14:55 PM
kayejkat:  I've read all of your comments, and I do believed that this fight should happen to prove some that they wrong, and for many boxing fans that they were right. I think this could be one, if not the greatest fight ever. In the beginning, I was afraid that Manny couldn't match Dela Hoya's natural power as Welterwieght aside from the fact that HE is the GOLDEN BOY in boxing. But like what others have said, let's all welcome and watch the fight. I respect DLH as legend, but I am one of Manny's Fans.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 02:50:21 PM
Nuckle:  What happens if the fight is made and DLH knocks Pacman out in the 1st round with a big left hook? I think DLH only looks more foolish. Pacman is way to small for DLH.
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:00:10 PM
donputo69:  there is only 1 golden boy and his name is MICHAEL PHELPS...holla back!!!!
Thursday Aug 21, 2008 07:10:34 PM
The Real Deal:  Nuckle, Donputo69. I agree with both of you guys. It's cool that we all don't agree on the same thing because then we couldn't read everyone's point of views on this fight that should never happen. But it's weird how someone wants to see Chicken Delahoya fight someone so small. In that case how would you feel if Chicken Delahoya fought Roy Jones? Jones said he would come down to either 154 or 160 and fight Delahoya. How would you feel if Paul Williams said he would fight Pacquiao? That would be a total massacre. Do you feel me on the size difference. Last one, what if Chad Dawson decided to go up to the heavyweight division and fight Wladimir Klitschko. That would also be a massacre. Marvin Haglar was a natural middleweight and he stayed there. Sugar Ray Robinson moved out of the welterweight division because they made him move out because no one would fight him. That's different. Pacquiao is getting ready to bite off more then he can chew if he decides to take that fight. Pinoy Power!! lol
Friday Aug 22, 2008 12:02:31 AM
nevermindafter:  BRING THEM ON!! MANNY'S OFFER OF 60-40 IS FAIR!!,,DAMN YOU SCHAEFER,,IT DOESNT MAKE YOU A GOOD CEO BECAUSE YOU'RE ROBBNG MANNY 10% OF THE SHARE AND IT CERTAINLY BLOTS YOU IN BOXING WORLD AS "NO MATCH MAKER" BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THIS FIGHT HAPPEN!!,,DO THE MATH 60-40 WITH MANNY (PHIL AND THE WHOLE OF ASIA) IS FAIR!!,,GBP HAS RIGHTS EVEN IN PHILIPPINE TV!!! ISNT THAT ENOUGH TO YOU??? THAT'S GREED!!!,, --- THIS GOES TO OSCAR DE LA HOYA TOO!!! COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 04:28:00 AM
rudy:  And I with you Nuckle that one left hook ends this fight, but I rather see someone just finish Oscar off -- tired of seeing him cloud up the big fights for the true fans of the sport.
Friday Aug 22, 2008 08:29:33 AM
Waldorf:  Listen, ODLH has nothing to prove and owe nobody a fight, he is the man and has done more for boxing then any anybody in the last five years, pac has only made 5 mil in his biggest money fight, he's being offer 10 mil, do the math he should only get 20%, keep letting arum run your business, you will have glory and no money puppet, Cotto only got 3mil, for that war, dumb who got the rest arum did, think for self Pac get the money and beat a Mega star, because your running from Nate, Marquez, Juan Daiz, Juan Guzman and won't get that kind money wake up!!!! Manny
Friday Aug 22, 2008 09:22:02 AM
The Real Deal:  Rudy Thank You! I totally agree..True fight fans don't want to see that fight. Yes Oscar does has something to prove in the ring. He's never won the big fight. He's always showed that he is a COWARD! He never fought anyone until after he seen them lose. He didn't fight Campas until Trinidad beat him. He didn't fight Vargas until Trinidad beat him. He didn't fight Mayorga until Trinidad beat him. He fought Chicanito Hernandez at 135 instead of 130. Chicanito is a natural 130 pounder. When you are a COWARD you always have something to prove. Just because he make more money then everyone doesn't mean he is the best
Friday Aug 22, 2008 09:45:04 AM
Sodamn Insane:  No way ODLH will be able to catch Pacman with his punches he is old and slow and has low stamina specially at 147 lbs I think Pacman is too fast for ODLH with his fast footwork and fastfist I think he will destroy ODLH . The odds are even in las vegas if this fight will push tru, this is a gamblers dream
Friday Aug 22, 2008 09:56:51 AM
#1 pacfan P4P "Legend":  All of you sounds like you are going in that ring to fight. If you don't want to see the fight at your home or live then there's the word alternatives. Nobody is forcing you to watch or go to the fight, remember we are just expectators not matchmakers. We are not the ones getting hit, throwing the punches, and sacrificing the body to get paid. Nobody but us listening to you and that's the bottom line.
Friday Aug 22, 2008 10:16:58 AM
The Real Deal:  #1 Pacfan..You are absolutely wrong..lol I'm sure there are guys on here that is involved in boxing. I do matchmaking...What is your thought when the President of the WBC Jose Sulaiman says that fight would be a FRAUD....You are right there is a word called alternative. And I will use it that's why I know I would not watch that circus act. This is not boxing anymore. I'm sure you like the Olympic scoring as well huh. Have you thought that u are not going to go into the ring either and have you ever been in the ring or had a fight with someone who weighs more, taller and punches harder. Pacman right now is a circus act like Butterbean and Bob Arum is trying to get as much money as possible before he is truly exposed. Believe me he can't beat the guys at his weight right now like Guzman, Campbell, Casamayor and Soto will really expose him. That's the fight I want to see. If you want to go and see some entertainment like that go to watch MMA
Friday Aug 22, 2008 10:57:43 AM
donputo69:  i agree with you The Real Deal....but i dont think dlh is a coward...he never ducked nobody...he did fought the best...BUT I DO QUESTION HIS HEART...overall, he's a good boxer...NOT GREAT...he needs to fight trinidad at a catch weight...EVERYBODY SAYS HE BEAT TITO..well then? prove it again...and i hope he doesnt run for his life again...lmfaoooo...AND BY THE WAY...I DID WATCH THAT FIGHT AGAIN LAST WEEK...it wasnt like dlh won round 1 thru 8...the fight was kind of close...i had dlh winning 5 rounds to 3 going in to the 9th round...from the 9th and on, it was tito's rounds...so i had that fight 7 rounds to 5 in favor of tito...and im not saying this because im puerto rican..im saying it because is the truth....holla back!!!!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 10:58:00 AM
The Real Deal:  I agree Donputo69..Oscar's heart is quesionable and u are right he's a good boxer..NOT GREAT. Have we ever questioned Trinidad's heart? NOWAY! The only reason Oscar would fight Trinidad is he thinks Trinidad is totally finished. But he doesn't realize that when Trinidad fought Jones, Jr. that's a different fighter. Oscar is not that fast or has that kind of movement. It might be like when Leonard finally got some heart and decided to fight Tommy Hearns in the rematch and got Leonard got knocked down twice and the judges cheated Tommy Hearns and called the bout a draw. But I hear that Trinidad is walking around 200 pounds
Friday Aug 22, 2008 11:07:37 AM
Radam G cheering B-Ballers Team USA:  Big Money O is my boy. PacMan is my peeps. Big Money O knows the deal. NOPE! He'd not knock out Pera Pac with one shot or a thousand ones. Mayweather Lite did a job on Big Money O in his last bout. Pera Pac would break both of BMO's eye sockets and a couple of his ribs. And Manny would hit BMO so hard that BMO's big toes would break on both feet into a Philippines shape map. Y'all musta fo'got! It's PacMan Time. Holla!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 11:17:35 AM
donputo69:  200?..wow...lmfaooo....im sure he can lose that weight in 6 months of hard training....lol...i hope so...lol..anyway...if not trinidad, so then fight margarito...HE PROMISE HE WILL FIGHT THE WINNER OF COTTO AND MARGARITO?...sup with that?...i dont know what say anymore....dlh needs to hang'em up for good....if he fights pacquiao and knock him out, he will get no respect from the real diehard boxing fans around the world...and believe it or not...THE TALKS ARE HEATING UP AGAIN..dlh vs pacquiao.....i like pacman and all, but i think he's gonna get a real beatdown from dlh...once one of his left hooks connect, is a wrap....lol...remember when gatti moved up to 147 to fight dlh?..thats whats gonna happen...everybody saw the difference in that fight...dlh was just too big for gatti at the time...holla back!!!!!!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 11:25:54 AM
donputo69:  yo Radam?...that bad air in china must got you going a lil crazy out there?...pacman is nice and all.....but i just dont think he's gonna beat "BIG MONEY O"...i just cant see happening....dont get me wrong, pacman might hang in there for atleast 7 or 8 rounds, then after that, is NITEQUILE TIME....pipi mimi time....dlh by 11th round TKO...pacman needs to fight the winner of guzman and campbell....thats more likely for him...holla back!!!!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 11:31:07 AM
Radam G:  Zar shang hao! -- Goodmorning in Chinese. Lmao, donputo69! It's all good! The rain is now kicking my butt. Bad air, rain storms, good food, beautiful ladies not-very-good U.S. boxers and great Team USA B-Baller, China is _________. You fill in the blanks. Holla!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 11:58:58 AM
Anony:  :::::: EVERYTIME I COME BACK HERE I GET THE SAME IMPRESSION ::::::: The only honorable way DLH can accomplish A RESPECTABLE RETIREMENT, MAKE MONEY AND ENTERTAIN REAL BOXING FANS AS WELL AS MEDIA HYPED ONES... is fighting Tito Trinidad. I'm sure Tito will agree to it and make it memorable since both of them are in equal conditions... retiring but still thirsty for ONE last battle. You all can criticize DLH for fighting Forbes but that fight was very worth of watching as well as Tito vs Jones... and I know Tito took the worst part but he was ready for action and very fit for the occasion. Jones was just too big for him and you could see it in their body frames. Same thing with DLH and Pacquiao... I congratulate the comment from Nuckle... "What happens if the fight is made and DLH knocks Pacman out in the 1st round with a big left hook?"... perfect comment.... the answer is NO GLORY FOR ANY FIGHTER. So.. I will keep making my case here ------ OSCAR VS. TITO II ----- the only fight that make sense and is worth of watching. If Mexicans are so proud over their recent wins on Puertoricans, why don't settle this with two country legends and future hall of famers??? Now, that is something everybody will like to watch. We will pay for the glory. GO WILD and imagine what happens if they make the best fight of the year, kind of Vazquez vs. Marquez... UH????? Everything can happen in boxing. I'm pretty sure they both will come out to box hard. Also, there is bad blood, they know it might be their last fight and on top of that there is the Puerto Rico vs. Mexico full year history. THAT IS A FIGHT FOR GLORY!!!!! No offense to the Filipino's here who thinks Pacman can do anything... I know he makes them proud but he is no Superman. I think Pacman knows this and that's part of his negative attitude. It is not all about money for him. He don't want to be "the last guy DLH beat on boxing history" --So--- ::: OSCAR VS. TITO :: FIGHTING FOR GLORY ::::
Friday Aug 22, 2008 12:29:54 PM
mike tyson:  dela hoya chose the last big of his life that he has a big advantage, bçoz he never win a big fight.... that why they still trying to convinced MANNY PACQUIAO to fight him.... if this will happen it will be his biggest hightmare bcoz,MANNY will knock him out.. GO MANNY...
Friday Aug 22, 2008 01:18:48 PM
edgar:  DLH wins nothing even if he did win! If he beats up a MP fans thinks he is beating the way smaller fighter and there is no honor in that and shows the sad state that boxing is really in. A fight like this would be a glorified sparring session for DLH. If he loses to MP than he will have lost to a way smaller fighter and confirms the idea that he should have been retired a very long time ago, and a lose of this kind could only diminish DLH accomplishments and jeopardize his legacy. DLH has everything to lose and MP everything to gain. This fight is a lose - lose situation for DLH it reminds us that boxing is on the decline. The funny thing is DLH cant be blamed for even considering this fight because there really is nobody exciting out there and i think DLH genuinely feels the need to carry boxings flag because of the lack of enthusaism for boxing. Boxing and its alphabet suites need to take a page from the Dana white UFC page book because even though I am a boxing aficionado, I see the reasoning behind the shifting interest and its not going away soon.
Friday Aug 22, 2008 01:27:51 PM
#1 pacfan P4P \:  Obviously most boxing expert analysts don't think this fight is not too bad including Dan Rafael at ESPN com and gives Pacquaio a very good chance of winning. I used to think boxing was rigged and sabotage by some promoters like Don King. But I don't believe it, if you think that way you take everything away from the fighters. Pacquaio will last all twelve rounds and win by a small margin. Mark it down ladies cause I will put money on it.
Friday Aug 22, 2008 02:39:29 PM
jp montilla. BACOLOD:  the pacman will ko dlh trust me on this if pacman will move to 147 he will have more power than ever dlh from 154 to 147 will lose power and speed due to wght cutting i think pacman has more advantage to power and speed stamina. the hgt. and reach will be dlh, pacman will win. MAKE THIS RIGHT FIGHT OF THE DECADE
Friday Aug 22, 2008 02:45:20 PM
Spinach Chin:  Oscar should surprise us all and fight Winky Wright.
Friday Aug 22, 2008 04:55:12 PM
Dr. Votts:  Man who is a great boxer in our era???? Even though I'm disgusted with Oscar he did give us a lot of good fights. Some he lost and got the nod, some he won and got robbed. We all know this(Oscar vs. Mosley 2).So that 0 n 5 stat goes out the window. Ok here's how I feel about this one since it's gonna happen. We all know Oscar's conditioning is not that great and Pacman's is one of the best. I say top three( honorable mention Calzaghe,Williams,Margo). Then ther's the fact that Oscar hasn't made 147 since????. He will come into this one considerably weaker If Pac can box smart for 6 rounds,pic his shots, invest to the body, he very much alive in this one. He cannot go to war with Oscar like he did with the other great mexicans( Barrera, etc). Another thing I like in Manny is the patience he's shown in his last couple fights. He will do himself good to use it. Oscar will come at him hard because he knows he will need to get him early and will try to draw Manny into a brawl. I think Manny has enough power to do damage from accumalative punches. He will have to keep his gloves up for the jab and watchout for the hook. Also Oscar has trouble with shorter boxers. What do yalz think about that. Peace n blessings
Friday Aug 22, 2008 07:04:08 PM
don"KING"puto69:  that will not be bad either...winky vs dlh..i'll watch that fight if it happens...but i dont wanna see pacman get ktfo by dlh...i just cant see that happen....hey dlh?...MAN UP AND FIGHT MARGARITO...holla back!!!!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 09:26:25 PM
the \:  hey guys! wazzup! dont understimate pacman! dont u ever see that he his so very talented arent u? ya your right he is not a superman! but i know he is a warrior his job is to fight to him everything is possible. or you are all afraid pacman will KO and he will become the GREAT BOXER Mexicutioner !? and after that.. pacman will retired after beating MAYWEATHER! and possible will go to the HEAVYWIEGHT class hahaha! and he will be the 1st boxer who had 5div. champ! haha! PEACE!
Friday Aug 22, 2008 10:56:04 PM
Dr. Votts:  WTF LANGUAGE WAS THAT??? De La hoya don't want no parts of that left uppercut. Or those bodyshots. He can't make 147, I would like to see him and Tito do it again. Tito almost put Roy to sleep.Oscar probably still has nightmares about that Left hook. And Tito can stiil punch. Oscar should take one more tune up or whoever he fights he's gonna lose. I git up witcha!!!
Saturday Aug 23, 2008 01:00:04 AM
remar aurelio bacolod:  pacman and dlh fight will be big when it comes ppv rem. thers so many asian in the world many of them will buy ppv for this fight so if i were OSCAR AKA MONEY GIVE HIM THE 40% CUT u will make millions in this fight so lets get it on MP WILL WIN BY KO.
Saturday Aug 23, 2008 10:08:28 AM
959 Santa:  Open Letter to Oscar.Every comment I have read say's DLH is chicken. Chicken De La Hoya!. God Damn Oscar fight Margarito. I get it Chicken De La Hoya. Oscar if your reading this your a Chicken. Fight Margarito. I just read a comment by Robert Morales in the daily news in LA that you Oscar said If you had a choice you wold fight Williams instead of of Margarito. Well then fight Williams. Seriously I think both Williams and Margarito will beat you. So that's why your mind is set on fighting Manny Pac. I say Chicken De La Hoya. Fight Margarito and show how much "Muy Macho" you really are.
Saturday Aug 23, 2008 04:29:09 PM
chris m:  how can anyone see a potential fight with pacman as anything but a lose-lose for de la hoya if it was about legacy? pac man has 1 fight at 135, 0 at 140, and we expect him to have a chance at 147 against a guy who has fought middleweights? its a joke. i dont care how tough you think pacman is: he is too small to beat de la hoya. if de la hoya works behind a jab like he would hope to in a floyd rematch thiswill be laughable. and guess what, oscar knows this. it has nothing to do with legacy, if it was,hed fight a win-win. in otherwords, a margarito, a current, in his prime recognized champ. a fight where hed be the underdog, where if he lost, it would be because he faded, and if he won it would be triumph. this fight is about money. hes not scared of margarito, he just knows that the same people that would pay to watch a margarito fight (esp so-cal hispanics) would pay to watch oscar fight carlos monzons corpse in his farewell fight. they share too many fans. he wants floyd (because hes mainstream), or hatton or pacman for thier international draw. the size advantage he has over them is irrelevent. that being said, if oscar were to fight pacman, 70-30 is still fair.
Sunday Aug 24, 2008 09:40:39 PM
Isaiah:  They haven't been showing any of my comments lately. Man, these writers/typers are so sensitve on what you can say. Anyway, Trinidad/De la Hoya 2 is the fight to make.
Monday Aug 25, 2008 04:50:30 AM
Anony:  TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! vs. Oscar
Monday Aug 25, 2008 11:01:48 AM
ECM-PR:  At this stage of his career, DLH doesn't care much about his legacy. All he cares is about making money, which is why a fight with P-man is the only one that makes sense (since Mayweather is retired). A fight with Tito makes no sense because DLH will not fight over 160 lb and Tito cannot make it below 170 lb. If DLH wanted to solidify his legacy, he will either fight Margarito, a rematch with Sturm (who beat him easily and was robbed), Mosley (who beat him twice) or better yet Winky Wright, who DLH has avoided throughout his career (so enough of the comments that DLH fought everyone - BS). Winky hasn't fought in over a year so he should take advantage of Winks inactivity. I know that none of these fights will happen because they are too high risk for DLH , but they are the best for boxing.
Monday Aug 25, 2008 05:36:07 PM
Anony :  ECM-PR :::: you are wrong. Tito asked for the fight at 160 pounds. Oscar knows it, it should happen. Besides, who is bigger business Mosley? Sergio Mora? Winky Wright? or Tito Trinidad?... at 160 pounds -- OSCAR VS. TITO II :: FIGHTING FOR GLORY ::::
Monday Aug 25, 2008 06:42:09 PM
TITO TRINIDAD:  "De la Hoya knows I cannot get under 160-pounds. It all depends on Oscar, that he accepts the weight of 160-pounds and the conditions. The first time we fought on september 18 1999, I won it. I am healthy and I had many hard battles, but if Oscar gives me one more opportunity, I would have one more bout with Golden Boy and once again retire"---- Tito Trinidad interviewed May 8, 2007.
Monday Aug 25, 2008 06:42:57 PM
cyrustristanisie:  Pacman vs ODLH will surely be a money maker of the year.ODLH should reconsider the offer of pacman if he does not it will surely be put in the mind of boxing fans that he is afraid of pacman and he only wants to earn the mega bucks he wanted.fight for dignity odlh show the world that what you want is title,prestige and dominance in the boxing world!!!!!!!!!!!manny deserve 50-50 share but for you guys to make your fight happen you should talk.....................are you afraid of pacman mr. goden boy????????????????? iam a big fan of yours but honestly iam a huge fan of pacman because of his dedication,hardwork and of course his knock out punch..........come on........sign the contract let us boxing fans see the fight, the worthy owner of the purse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!good luck to both of you guys...................if your fight should pushthough dont forget my air fare and ticket ok?...........i wish.......
Tuesday Aug 26, 2008 01:30:44 AM
Anony:  :::: ECM-PR ::::: You are full of it. Tito AGREED TO FIGHT AT 160-POUNDS back in May!!!!! It is up to Oscar to make the fight that makes sense!!!!!!! Williams ain't a big name and he doesn't have the PPV pull. So it is no business for DLH. Why he would fight for less profit. He needs a big name fight and TITO TRINIDAD is the only one with a BIG FAN BASE. TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO! TITO!
Tuesday Aug 26, 2008 01:38:27 PM
ECM-PR:  Anony-I guess we agree on something. Some of these other, more serious threats to DLH may not the best decision businesswise (and for his health), but are the best for boxing. Tito is fooling himself if he thinks he can make 160 lb. Regardless, it's 7-8 years too late for this fight and no, Tito did not beat DLH in that first fight. Any real boxing fan knows that. The same way that DLH didn't beat Sturm. Let's get real.
Tuesday Aug 26, 2008 07:14:14 PM
Limi:  amen to that....fight paul or margarito oscar peeleease il give u a billion dollars. Fight margarito for boxing take ur whoopin and past the torch..
Tuesday Aug 26, 2008 08:14:56 PM
MARK GIL BATAUSA:  Marky: FOR ME I GO FOR PACQUIAO,IM AN AVID FAN OF MANNY PACQUIAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO FOR GLORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sunday Nov 30, 2008 01:27:20 AM
Jobert F.Alvarez:  if pacquiao win some pilipino was happy if pacquiao lost Mayor of Bacolod was prison
Tuesday Dec 2, 2008 11:09:44 PM
markhuz:  well guys its a big day for two great nation having both big star in boxing but in my own opinion this game is just a money matter thier is no such enough pride its a show dont you see that still DLH is the promoter so guys what do you expect a real action superhero from the east battle for thier pride. But still we vote and support manny fights because we are filipinos and we stand in the world proving that we are best even thou we dont have the means
Saturday Dec 6, 2008 09:01:12 PM

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