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Wednesday Aug 13, 2008


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Ron Borges On Rau'Shee Warren Debacle

By Ron Borges

Everything that has again gone wrong with USA Boxing this year was fully displayed in the upset and upsetting loss Rau-Shee Warren endured Tuesday in Beijing.

           

Warren was the first US Olympic boxer to return for a second shot at a gold medal in 32 years, the first since Davey Armstrong competed in the 1972 and 1976 Games rather than turn pro after his first Olympics. In other countries this is a familiar pattern but not in the United States, where our Olympic boxers compete in one Olympiad and then move on to pursue professional careers as prizefighters. That Warren chose to do otherwise was in part because he was one of the youngest boxers in Athens but it was also a testament to his conviction and that of his family that if he stayed the course he would benefit in Beijing.

 

As it turned out he did not, losing in the first round the same as he had four years ago but this time the defeat was worse because in 2004 he lost because he was a kid who didn’t really understand what it took to win in that international cauldron. This time he lost because the team is in disarray, no one listens to the head coach or his assistants and the result has been a disaster.

 

With the first round not yet completed, four of America’s nine fighters have already been eliminated, one even before the Games began when he collapsed unconscious in his room while trying desperately to make weight after being no less than six pounds over the 119-pound limit for the past six months.

 

But the worse loss to date was Warren’s because it exemplified everything wrong with amateur boxing in the United States. Simply put, the coaches are incapable of communicating with their fighters and the fighters can’t stand their coaches and are not exactly Batman and Robin when it comes to the team concept. In fact, when it comes to the team concept, these kids have no concept.

 

This disarray began long before the team left for the Games and it cost Warren dearly. All the ills that have plagued USA Boxing for more than a decade now played out before the world on a very public stage and the conclusion is that something remains sadly, sadly wrong with amateur boxing in the U.S.

 

While every other country seems able to do a simple thing like relay to its boxer whether he is ahead or behind over the past four days of competition, United States coach Dan Campbell and his assistants have consistently failed to do so. That is in large part, it seems, a result of what became massive communication problems between the 65-year-old Campbell, who is a stern taskmaster, and his young athletes, who have made clear their lack of respect for him.

 

A near mutiny developed in June when Campbell and USA Boxing officials tried to throw Luis Yanez off the team after he refused to return to the Colorado Springs training camp where the boxing team had been, in the opinion of some of the fighters and their families, held captive for the better part of a year. Six of America’s nine fighters threatened to walk out and ultimately Yanez, the fighter his teammates chose as their captain despite his outspoken lack of respect for Campbell’s authority, was re-instated. To call this mess a team at that point is like calling rap music opera.

 

Tuesday it all came to an ugly head when Warren trailed by one point, 9-8, with 35 seconds to go in his opening bout with Lee Ok-sung of Korea. One can talk long and loud about the questionable scoring but that’s become such a familiar story it’s little more than footnote in this loss because what really beat Warren was his refusal to look at his corner during a break in the action because of a problem with Ok-sung’s equipment.

 

Warren stood in a neutral corner and refused to even glance at his Olympic coaches, who claimed they were desperately hollering at him to punch. Instead, Warren came out with his hands at his sides and for the next 32 seconds slid from side to side making no effort to throw a punch. He was in the fistic version of the four-corner offense, stalling like a man who thought he had a lead to protect. Turned out that instead of the four corners it was the rope a dope and the dopes were Warren and his coaches.

 

Later Warren would say he heard someone in the crowd yelling, “Move! Move!’’ He heard those voices because those were the ones he was listening to all along, not Campbell and his staff.

 

Campbell claimed later, “I was confused why he stopped (punching). He said he heard somebody saying to him to move. He was looking up in the stands.’’

 

Indeed he was. He was looking at his family and the individual coaches of some of the team members who had come to Beijing to support their fighters in a way that, frankly, undermined the authority of Campbell and his assistants. This, too, is nothing new to USA Boxing. For years personal coaches have worked with the Olympians in hotel rooms away from the team training center going back at least as far as the 1992 Games in Barcelona, which were the first I attended.

 

But the confusion and disarray has grown with the passage of time until we reached a point where Warren, the U.S.’s most experienced amateur, refused to look at his coaches and then boxed for more than a half minute of the final round while needing a point to tie and two to win with his hands at his sides.

 

One can blame Warren for not acting like a fighter or an Olympian and that would be correct. One can blame Campbell for being stubborn, hard-headed and for having questionable training methods according to people who have seen him work. One can blame the officials at USA Boxing who came up with the idea of picking the team a year ahead of time and then hiding it in a residency program for much of the final year, forgetting that a 17-year-old may be 119 pounds at the start of that process but struggling to hold that weight by the end of the next year, as Gary Russell did until he collapsed after a plastic-coated training run in Beijing’s polluted air.

 

To see Warren lose as much from lack of communication as anything else and then to watch as he flung his gloves and his headgear out of the ring after he realized what had happened was an embarrassment. To see him sobbing after the fight because he had waited four years for this second chance and let it slip away in 35 minutes of confusion was painful.

 

After it was over, Campbell claimed he was “close to speechless.’’ He should have been. Then he spoke of his concern that Warren’s quick exit from the Games might adversely affect his remaining five fighters. He said he was going to be sure they spoke with the team’s psychologist because he feared they might be “psyched out.’’

 

That struck me as particularly interesting because four years ago USA Boxing rejected a psychologist uniquely qualified to help our boxers at the Games in favor of a seventh grade gym teacher friendly with a former official of USA Boxing who, in the end, quit before the Games began.

 

That psychologist was Dr. Wilbert “Skeeter’’ McClure, an industrial psychologist and college professor who worked with police and other organizations on conflict management and handling stress (which would seem to fit the bill for the US Boxing team) and who also won a gold medal in boxing in 1960 in Rome, where he was Muhammad Ali’s roommate.

 

McClure went on to a 10-year professional career in which he was ranked as high as No. 3 in the world at a time when that meant something. He also earned a Ph.d in psychology and served for a time as chairman of the Massachusetts Boxing Commission.

 

Why wouldn’t USA Boxing want a guy like that advising their boxers on how to win in Athens? Maybe because amateur boxing has become more about territorial battles than fistic ones and more about power struggles than the struggle to win medals. That USA Boxing could find no use for such a man makes all the rest of what happened more understandable.

 

You can’t exonerate Rau’shee Warren or his teammates when they fail to make weight or refuse to listen to their coaches but they are not, as Dan Campbell would have you believe, the only problem here.

 

The sad ending of Warren’s amateur boxing career was a symptom of a deeper problem that isn’t going to be cured until the adults who run USA Boxing become far more concerned with the athletes and far less concerned with petty territorial battles and the promotion of cronies ill-suited for the responsibility they’ve been given.

                                               

                         

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BigDaddy:  There's no room for coastin to victory Boxing.When you leave it up to the judges anything can happen.Bad to downright crooked officiating is prevalent in every sport, just look at the NBA.Rau'shee can only blame himself. I hope he learns from this and wish him the best.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 02:50:39 PM
Anony:  UUUGGGGHHHH!!!! SOMEBODY FROM THE OLYMPIC TEAM WILL GET HURT AFTER READING THIS STORY BY MR. BORGES. THAT'S FOR REAL. Well, I guess it is frustrating to have so much expectations on an Olympic team. Look at Puerto Rico boxing team... so far they have 2-2 and the best fighter is already out of the competition. Over here the press is "killing" our Olympic efforts and I kind of have mix feelings. The truth is that an Olympic team HAVE TO PROVE they deserve the chance among hundreds of fighters and give no excuses. It is a must win no matter what. For USA is worst since they have almost 100 times the territory of our little island and finding better fighters should be an easier task. So... yes, we all are sad about the boxing results in the Olympics, it is an occidental issue I guess. But there's still hope in the path, I wish my fellow country men will do better and win one or two of those medals. If they loose.. well I will root for USA team. MR. BORGES : that's a great article and you should not pay any attention to those who disagree.. those kids are there to win and I'm sure the other countries that are defeating both, USA and PR, teams doesn't count with half of the money or resources we have and invest on them. So... why then they don't are not doing the job. Maybe is a draft problem to begin with?????
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 03:20:14 PM
Billy:  This comes down to one thing: lack of respect. I was and still am very upset after watching the fight. I believe this has more to do with general lack of respect for anything from Americans. Teamwork is generally associated with foreign countries, not the USA. I'm so ashamed at my fellow countrymen for their arrogant displays in all sporting events. It's finally caught up to us. Me, myself, and I just doesn't cut it anymore, especially when the strong core values of foreigners are supported by increase in their skills. This is a country where you can lose your child for spanking them...This is a country where discipline is just a word and has no meaning to anyone here. The term "only in America" sure has been leaving a bad taste in my mouth lately. We were the best at pretty much every sporting event, but not anymore. We have to understand that it ALWAYS works better with more minds at work. Period. This is a very young nation and let's be frank, we have no tradition of any kind, no values which we all share. The economy has adapted with globalization now all that's left is to establish our core values, but how can that happen with selfish attitudes? It can't.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 05:56:40 PM
nic:  exactly. this kid deserves what he got from coasting. Ask golden boy Oscar what coasting gets you..... and just from his interviews, this kid seems like a complete idiot. he probably had trouble understanding the score.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 06:47:48 PM
BIGFREDO76:  IM GLAD THIS HAPPENED TO AMERICAN BOXERS.THEY GLORIFY THIS PUNKS BEFORE THIER TIME AND LISTEN TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS.JUST LOOK AT THE LIST OF BOXING CHAMPS NOW AND YOU ONLY SEE ONE NAME THAT STANDS OUT KELLY PAVLIK ALL OTHERS ARE FOREIGN AND THATS SO F*****G SAD.THANK GOD THAT THESE 3RD WORLD COUNTRY BOXERS HAVE HUNGER TO BE THE BEST.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 06:47:49 PM
Dan L:  I just hope that Andrade has someone to listen to in his second bout. He almost lost his first and aside from Estrada - in my opinion - is our only chance at some type of salvation. Coach Campbell violated confidentiality of a minor (nearly) when detailing the medical issue of Javier Molina. The US team is in disarray and more and more former USSR countries are excelling with their amatuer programs. Add them to Ghana, Cuba, and even China - and USA Boxing is in trouble for the foreseeable future. I am still watching all 96 or so hours of Olympic Boxing - but am not really focusing on the Americans (though I do whole-heartedly support them) - instead I am intrigued by the different styles coming out of Eastern Europe - and truth be told - the fighters from Ghana have a really entertaining style to watch.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 07:13:21 PM
andy from newcastle:  Sad and depressing stuff. T'y.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 08:20:37 PM
DaveB:  Boy this stuff sounds like society in general. Sounds like everyone needs to grow up. To expect anything else seems like insanity.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 08:55:02 PM
The Watcher:  This kid has been in this game to long not to fight until the bell rings. Its his mistake & he has to live with it, as far as the coaches are concerned he (DC) has been the head coach for or involved at the top level of USA boxing for many years without any complaints. Now everyone is crying, we have to many immature kids on this squad and these kids coaches and parents are the ones putting these negative things in there head. Its these fighters arrogance that got them in trouble.
Wednesday Aug 13, 2008 10:25:27 PM
1:  It's a sin how amateur boxing's been hijacked by wannabes in the administrative ranks over the past twenty or so years. They've completely destroyed a beautiful sport in a relatively short period of time. Went to an amateur bout in the early '90's and walked out after three bouts. If a fighter landed two punches in row, the ref would interfere, yell something that resembled "break" give a signal to resume action, only to jump in a moment later and repeat the process all over again. I guess he thought we paid to see him. Was told by a regular, wait, it gets better. Yeah, it got better. Completely unwatchable.
Thursday Aug 14, 2008 12:09:56 AM
Joe Parker:  Colion "Champ" Chaney was Marvin Johnson's coach from Indianapolis' St. Rita's PAL Boxing Club when Marvin took a Bronze Medal in Munich in 1972. Marvin had a strong bond with Champ developed over several years. Champ went to Munich even though he was not allowed to work in Marvin's corner. I believe that consistency contributed to Marvin's success. Compare also the participation of the US Army coach in Seoul in 1988 when the United States Boxing Team won 3 Gold (it should have been 4), 3 Silver and 2 Bronze Medals. Obviously, many members on our current team have bonded with the coaches who got them where they are. Unlike people in some member countries governed more from the top down, United States boxers are accustomed to having a say in matters that directly affect them. I was taught that the boxer should choose his chief second and that chief second should choose the person who is to help him in the corner. I trust that the powers that be at USA Boxing found Coach Campbell's qualities most desirable of all possible candidates, but boxing coaches don't come in a one size fits all category. I recommend they revisit past successes to improve the scheme for training and coaching leading up to the next Olympics.
Thursday Aug 14, 2008 07:24:44 AM
Radam G :  This is the worst attitude I've ever seem from young boxers representing their country against the world. This sicko attitude of this class of U.S. boxers is pathetic. Who told them that God died and they are the new Gods. Dissing Coach DC -- Dan Campbell -- and his staff of great coaches is the downfall of Warren and Ali. I don't pity them a bit. In reverse of Mr. T, "I don't pity the fool(s)." Warren showed himself to be a classless clown. His home coach -- meddling "Stan Brown," I think -- should have trained this knuckleheaded Warren about crowd propaganda. This is all a part of the sweet science. Back in the day, when I was an amateur boxers, and we had the likes of U.S. national coaches such as Sarge Johnson, Junior Robles, David Jacob, Joe Cloud, Dick Pettigrew, John Hunter, Manny Steward, Paul Rios, Sgt. Adams, Sgt. Grant, Percy Price, Police Capt. John Harold, Jimmy Ellis, Winky Groom, Air Force Sgt. Clark and some other great coaches who I cannot remember right now, we used crowd propaganda all the time against knuckleheaded boxers who would listen to voices in the crowds. We would place and encourage people in the crowd to tell our adversial opponents to throw certain punches, so we could counter and knock the opponents silly or out. We would also tell the suckers to just move and stay away -- this was to protect one of our fighters who was hurt. Man, the game is call the sweet science. In science, oftentimes you have to trick nature to get wanted results. And Boxing is indeed a team sports, not an individual one like talking heads, who never been in the hurt square say. You need a good corner and a cheering posse with the correct advice. You turn on your corner you get what Warren got, and what Oliver McCall got when his freaked out against Lennex Lewis. Ali freaked out and quit listening to the corner because he was one point behind. Wow, I guess the Kano boxers are losing more than bouts, they are losing their minds. Now they are seeing a shrink. But, this one use to box. Back to the bouts. China Time! Holla!
Thursday Aug 14, 2008 11:27:44 AM
Radam G :  Wow! I don't know how I forgot "Champ" Chaney. He was another great coach, back in the day. Holla!
Thursday Aug 14, 2008 11:33:24 AM
Jacquie:  I feel for the guys from the 1980 Olympic Team who never got the opportunity to even compete. There is no reason a fighter is 6 pounds over at the biggest event of his life, the Olympics. This team shows no respect for the coaches, for each other, for Americans, and certianly, not for the sport. I hope the Amateur Boxing honchos look at this disaster and make an effort to do the right thing. I agree that Skeeter McClure was the man for the job and to turn a way such an educated, former gold medalist for a personal friend shows you where egos have taken over to the detriment of the kids.
Monday Aug 18, 2008 02:45:22 PM
R. Mack:  I feel the fighters in these Olympics got rob big time and not just are homeboys EVERY FIGHT had a leak, scoring was so bad Oscar & Roy Jones should invite every fighter from every country, and let them ALL redeem themselves on the next Contender, and me being an ex-boxer thesefighters would have won if they would have kept boxing and thowing punches and not leave it up to scoring....
Monday Aug 18, 2008 05:26:14 PM

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