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Wednesday Jul 2, 2008


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Avila's P4P List: Is Pac Man Number One?

By David A. Avila

While Pacman was beating polyrhythmic beats on WBC lightweight titleholder David Diaz, a former lightweight titleholder was taking notes on the newest kid on the block…Manny Pacquiao.

 

“I think he looked very strong,” said Diaz of Pacquiao. “It was a great match for Pacquiao and he looked very good.”

 

Though it was a decisive and convincing win over the rugged Diaz of Chicago, it was a matter of styles that made the fight look easy.

 

“David Diaz was a perfect opponent,” said Julio Diaz. “He could stay in there and take punches. But I knew he couldn’t take them all day.”

 

Yes indeed. Pacquiao stopped David Diaz with a perfectly placed left hand to the chin for a knockout win and send the lightweight division in a scramble to see who wins the Pacquiao sweepstakes.

 

Julio Diaz predicts a much rougher road ahead for Pacquiao in the lightweight division where much speedier fighters exist.

 

“There are still good fighters out there. I hope he sticks around,” said Diaz, who hopes that rumors of Pacquiao moving into the junior welterweight division to challenge Great Britain’s Ricky “The Hitman” Hatton are premature. “I want to keep my position so I can get in the mix.”

 

Diaz said a number of fighters could serve as possible opponents for Pacquiao, including Juan Diaz, who took away the IBF world title from the Coachella boxer last year, and Nate Campbell who took the IBF, WBO and WBA world titles away from Juan Diaz last March. There’s also Urbano Antillon, who knocked Bobby Pacquiao without mercy in the first round and Joan Guzman, who’s set to test Campbell in September.

 

All of those lightweights are much faster than David Diaz and present more problems, says Julio Diaz. But he’s not guaranteeing any of those lightweights can beat Pacquiao.

 

“Pacquiao is a hyper fighter and incredibly fast,” says Diaz who watched the fight last Saturday among friends on television. “He has that eye of the tiger. It only lasts a few years, then it’s gone.”

 

Diaz feels that even Pacquiao can lose that champion’s edge.

 

“It can fade away,” Diaz said. “(Marco Antonio) Barrera had it. (Erik) Morales had it. And Oscar De La Hoya had it. But they lost it once they got too famous.”

 

Is Pac Man number one now that Floyd Mayweather is gone?

 

Without a doubt.

 

 

Here is the new pound for pound list:

 

1. Manny Pacquiao (47-3-2, 36 KOs) – Sorry lightweights, Pacquiao looked even faster against the bigger David Diaz than at featherweight. “He was too fast,” said Diaz while shaking his head. Pacquiao now will face bigger and faster lightweights in the future. Take your pick Pac Man, there are some great fights in the 135-pound division.

 

2. Israel Vazquez (43-4, 31 KOs) – Mexico City’s Vazquez is taking a needed rest after participating in three of the most brutal but engaging boxing contests in history. He blends skill, power and tenacity and has become one of the sport’s entertaining fighters. How much does he have left?

 

3. Kelly Pavlik (34-0, 30 KOs) – The Ghost dismantled Welsh fighter Gary Lockett in three rounds to hand him his first loss. That fighter may never be the same. Last week Edison Miranda was knocked out easily by Arthur Abraham in a rematch. Some say it was due to the whipping Pavlik put on him.

 

4. Joe Calzaghe (45-0, 32 KOs) – American boxing fans wanted Calzaghe to fight Pavlik. But Circle Joe is choosing to fight Roy Jones Jr. It’s an easier match for Calzaghe who should be the favorite against the once unbeatable RJJ.

 

5. Miguel Cotto (32-0, 26 KOs) – Cotto has proven himself over and over during the past two years. Now he gets Mexico’s Antonio Margarito and will be tested without a doubt. The winner gets the greatest prize today: a date to fight Oscar De La Hoya. This is Cotto’s big moment later in the month.

 

6. Bernard Hopkins (48-5-1, 32 KOs) – The Philadelphia boxing wizard can’t seem to find an opponent. Maybe WBC champ Chad Dawson would like to take a chance against the old man. Hopkins still has something left in his tank.

 

7. Juan Manuel Marquez (48-4-1, 35 KOs) – After watching Pacquiao obliterate David Diaz it’s apparent that Marquez is quite a fighter to have fought twice and lose by a narrow margin once and fight to a draw with the Filipino star. Marquez' next fight will be against Joel Casamayor in the lightweight division.

 

8. Rafael Marquez (37-5, 33 KOs) – He’s eager for a rematch with Israel Vazquez, but may have to settle for winning one of the other junior featherweight titles. Maybe a match with Puerto Rico’s Juan Manuel Lopez could set the house on fire.

 

9. Winky Wright (51-4-1, 25 KOs) – The middleweight contender might be a good fight for Pavlik, but surprisingly a proposed match between the two has not been mentioned. Wright needs to fight somebody quick before he develops spider webs underneath his arms.

 

10. Ricky Hatton (44-1, 31 KOs) – Britain’s favorite fighter had a rough time against Juan Lazcano, but he earned his place on this list with a gritty victory. It looks like boxing promoters are jockeying a fight between Hatton and Pacquiao pretty soon. That would be a blockbuster fight anywhere.

 

11. Cristian Mijares (35-3-2, 14 KOs) – The little known Mexican junior bantamweight boxer is a crackerjack fighter with tremendous skills. Mijares is also one of the smartest pugilists in the sport and is a pleasure to watch as he changes battle plans whenever necessary like a chess player.

 

12. Joan Guzman (28-0, 17 KOs) – The lightning quick Dominican boxer has a proposed date to fight lightweight world champion Nate Campbell. Though both fighters are not high profile boxers, each is dynamite inside the ring. Guzman needs a win to stay on this list. Campbell wants to win now to earn his due.

 

Honorable mention: Nate Campbell, Nonito Donaire, Oscar De La Hoya and Antonio Margarito.

 

Fights on television

 

Fri. Telefutura, 8 p.m., Enrique Ornelas (27-4, 17 KOs) vs. Daryl Salmon (16-2, 4 KOs)

 

Sat. Showtime, 7 p.m., Ricardo Torres (32-1, 28 KOs) vs. Kendall Holt (23-2, 12 KOs).

 

 

 

 

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donputo69:  i almost agree..i disagree with vazquez at #2..thats too high for him...and i also disagree with hopkins at #6..and winky #9?...jeeeeeez....HERE'S MY LIST..:1.PACMAN..2.CALZAGHE..3.COTTO..4.PAVLIK..5.VAZQUEZ..6.J.M MARQUEZ..7.MARGARITO..8.HATTON..9.ABRAHAM..10.HOPKINS..THATS MY TOP 10..OH AND BY THE WAY...IT FEELS SO GOOD NOT TO SEE SCAREWEATHER FREE LOADING THAT #1 SPOT..LMFAOOOOOO...HOLLA BACK MONKEYS..
Wednesday Jul 2, 2008 11:15:31 PM
FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS THE LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unbelievable. Still donputo69 can't get Floyd OFF his mind. You miss so bad, can't stop mentioning him. Anyway, I'm not gonna dis or argue with anyone. I've made my points clear. I agree almost 100% with the lost,but Pacquiao's reign is NOT gonna last long. Write that down. See you all later....especially you don, one of Floyd Mayweather's biggest fan here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't stop mentioning him HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wednesday Jul 2, 2008 11:30:01 PM
BigDaddy74:  Free Loading ?!....HaHaHaHa!!!! That's hilarious DP. No more "Milking It" Mayweather.Let's just enjoy it while it last.Too bad his retirement isn't going to be a permanent one.
Wednesday Jul 2, 2008 11:41:47 PM
Smiley C:  I'm biting off donputo69, but I'll put Pavlik at #3 and Cotto at #4 and Hatton at #6 and the canvas kisser Marquez at a tie for 10 with Guzman and Hopkins. Fo' sure!
Wednesday Jul 2, 2008 11:51:30 PM
dk punch:  paaman miguel cotto kelly pavlik
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 01:54:17 AM
Uruk-Hai:  Hey Mr Avila by now you should have learned that to be p4p you need to have a resume of ATG. This crap talk about American critics saying Gayweather was p4p yet ducked the best opposition is just something. Why did it took years and blatant ducking before you writers saw it. Most especially you Mr. Avila. I know my post will be deleted nonetheless but this message is strictly for Mr. Avila. In Pacquiao you see a fighter who fights, has courage, has the accomplishments, is a dignified champ and a name you can put beside Robinson and Ali and not be ashamed. Now you may delete my post after you've read it.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 02:16:27 AM
Viel Mervic:  Finally, a boxing expert that agrees with me as to where Joe Calzaghe should be placed in the pound-for-pound list. People who puts Calzaghe as the best p4p fighter should really consider the level of opposition that Joe has faced, and his skills. Calzaghe doesn't throw a punch. He slaps! He beat: An old Hopkins? Way overrated Kessler? Unskilled Manfredo and Lacy? Plus, what about these excuses that he doesn't want to fight Pavlik because Pavlik's not ready yet? If that's the case then that is the best fight for him! Because if Pavlik's not yet ready for him, then Joe will definitely beat him right? So why is he telling all these stuff? Why not tell "I am afraid of Kelly Pavlik"? I mean, that would make a lot of sense right?
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 02:19:39 AM
carlonarbs:  Good to see former sparring partners Manny Pacquiao and Israel Vasquez taking number one and two on your list.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 02:46:20 AM
boywonder:  Margarito at #6?? are you serious donputo?
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 04:40:11 AM
Jellyfish:  I don't understand how you keep Hopkins on that list. I just don't.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 05:44:57 AM
banks:  i agree that pacquioa is the number 1 pound for pound but at number 2 it's a toss up between kelly pavlik and joe calzaghe.remove cry baby from the list unless he beats a washed up casamayor.......
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 06:31:38 AM
LEBRON JAMES:  IM THE NO.1 POUND FOR POUND----LEBRON JAMES
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 07:37:09 AM
Mike Tyson:  I'm p4p, ounce for ounce king of world, I'll take your heart, eat your children
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 09:27:04 AM
donputo69:  lmfaooooo...scareweather not so legend cant get me of his mind...lmfaooooo...why you always mentioning my name?....you want my number too?...lmfaoooo....yea man...i miss scareweather.....NOT....lol...maybe i miss his ducking...his scareness....his NO HEART.....his fake mouth....thats about it....lol...and yes...i have margarito at 6....he is the most underrated mexican fighter in this era...but i still think he's gonna lose to my man COTTO...holla back monkeys....
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 10:00:23 AM
Anony:  BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! BYE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!! (you should hire "Floyd is the legend" to take your dogs out and fan your face. He would love to do that just to be around you. At nighttime, if you both can't sleep you can always watch one of Floyd's fight to zzzzzzzzzzzzz nice and sound. hehehehe.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 10:18:20 AM
BRYAN:  Man! The lightweights are crazzy!! My top 10 Lightweights is this: 1. Pacquiao 2. JMM 3. Campbell 4. Guzman 5. Casamayor 6. Juan Diaz 7. Valero 8. Katsidis 9. Amir Khan 10. David Diaz (4 heart)
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 10:47:11 AM
#1 pacfan:  I would have to agree with you on this one Avila. Pacquaiofanatics are all so glad to see their man on the top of that list finally as Pound for Pound king. Yet overdue still the timing couldn't be as perfect after a flawless victory last Saturday night at Mandalay Bay. For every Pacfan all over the world we also speculate about the upcoming opponents in the Lightweight division and I still believe he can prove to many of his fans critics that that wasn't the best of him. I would like him to stay put on this division because there are so many good matchups but I want to see that interesting fight that can happen in Jr. Welterweight. Promote PACQUAIO VS mayweather @ 140.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 11:32:56 AM
#1 pacfan:  I know it's a dream fight but it's also big possibility fight. Pacquaio is so BIG in boxing right now that he ranks among the top names ever. Every site I see he is on the main page and it wasn't like that before. His fanbase just keeps getting bigger and bigger that even die-hard mexican fans love this guy, purely for his style of fighting, humbleness, and is a true gentleman in the ring. And I also believe that if this Pacquaio wasn't Filipino that he would be much bigger than he is right now. NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM HIM BUT JUST WHAT I THINK!!!
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 11:58:04 AM
Saul:  Vazquez definitely belongs in the number 2 spot. Pacquiao definitely in the number 1 slot. except for Calzaghe and Hopkins being so far up. I think those two belong well behind Ralph Marquez and JM Marquez.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 12:00:52 PM
Arturo:  How can Calzhage be at no 4 ? This isn't a slapboxing list .Marquez takes on the best fighter and gives him a lesson, Calzhage won't take on somebody that can take his slaps all day then return a brick wall busting punch from Pavlik.But I guess it's going to take time for people to see that Calzhage is not a top notch fighter.So he can get his place in the top 10 p4p rejects.Hopkins throws harder remarks than blows , he had the power to smash Slappy Joe but didn't have the will to launch more than 3 punches per round.Is this list scrambled from 2-12?
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 05:03:06 PM
Avila:  Uruk-Hai, your opinions are always welcome man. As long as you keep coming back to read us. Anytime you want to write us feel free. Even if you don't like what I write. Thanks again for your comments.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 07:07:58 PM
Pepper lover:  Pac Man - Scareweather will never happen. No need to dream. Pac Man needs to fight an elite guy at lightweight. Nate Campbell, Juan Diaz, even Casamayor (though I have no interest in that). Avila, Woods needs to send you for a urinalysis, because the inclusion of Hopkins and Wright is simply puzzling. De La Hoya Honorable Mention?? Someone needs to pass you the cup my friend. And pass it quickly. I hope you're not operating heavy machinery. Hell, why not put Tye Fields on the list. He looked good the other night.
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 08:22:28 PM
andy from newcastle:  Right now for me, Manny is top of the pile p4p, I'll move Cotto to second if he beats Margarito convincingly, but for now he's third behind JMM, then comes Calzaghe, Vazquez, Hopkins for old times sake, Pavlik/Abraham, Mijares/Montiel/Donaire- gotta fight, for the right, to p4party. And if come 26th July, Margaritoville wastes away Miguel, then we gotta rethink the whole bag. Toonoy
Friday Jul 4, 2008 09:34:51 AM
Juan Montelongog:  My picks: #1 Pacquiao, #2 JMM #3 Israel Vazquez, #4 Miguel Cotto, #5 Antonio Margarito,#6 Christian Mijares,#7Kelly Pavlik,#8 Rafael Marquez, #9 Joan Guzman #10 Ricky Hatton B-Hop: No way in the top 10!! ODLH :Only fights once a year (and loses!!) No longer active enough, but great for TV!!. Winky Wright: Boring defensive minded fighter!! Calzaghe....Please!! He has no punch and has only fought B-Hop way past his prime!! None of these guys belong in the top 10....As for my list....Why is it that so many "experts" do not give Margarito his due? Lets see, he has absolutely hammered everyone he's fought, everyone avoids him (Mayweather to the tune of 8 million) His only loss? To Paul Williams who was completely defensive and also due to Margaritos own slow start, but did he get killed by Williams?? Heck no!! In fact, Margarito started beating up on the much taller boxer after the 8th round, however, it was too late.....He badly beat up and completely embarrassed Cintron the first time...Cintron then beats up a couple of nobodies and everyone once again falls in love with him....Margarito loses a close decision to Williams and he again falls by the wayside....Second Cintron/Margarito fight: Everyone expects Cintron to beat Margarito...Margarito embarrasses him AGAIN!! What does this guy need to do to get respect?? Well, here it is.: Margarito will knock out Cotto. Cotto has a weak chin and it was proven against that Columbian fighter (Don't recall his name) where he was dropped 2 or 3 times....Margarito is a much bigger and relentless puncher and has a granite chin.Margarito by TKO in the 10th. After beating Cotto, he jumps to #2 behind Manny!! ODLH, Does he really want this guy?? Finally, Why Ricky Hatton in the #10 position? Doesn't everyone get tired of watching Ricky grab and hit, grab and hit and grab and hit again? He wears people down with all the grabbing!! He only beats them because he is in freakishly great physical condition, but not because he is necessarily a good boxer....That's my list and I'm sticking with it: Don't say I didn't tell you so after July 26th!!
Friday Jul 4, 2008 12:55:16 PM
donputo69:  hey juan...you said cotto has a weak chin?..yes...at 140 he did...at 147?..i dont think so....his chin has been tested at 147 and so far nobody hasnt drop'd him...so think before you make some dumb comments...i wanna see all the cotto haters here july 27...i wanna see whats gonna be their excuse...it will be excuse #33...lmfaoooooooo.....thats when cotto will be 33-0.....holla back ladies....
Friday Jul 4, 2008 03:20:03 PM
FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS THE LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:  Juan Montelongog, I contratulate you man. Yeah, not only Cotto has a weak chin, HE IS WEAK. When he faces a strong fighter that punches back he becomes a pussy, and closes in. Like don, when somebody argues he closes his mind. I agree Margarito is gonna KILL Cotton and prove to all the people Cotto was and is just a myth. Margarito is gonna do a great favor, A GREAT FAVOR to boxing when he KO's that little sucker Cotto out of comission where he deserved to belonged a long time ago. Then I wanna see what the Cotto girlfriends are gonna say...especially Mommy hatred.
Friday Jul 4, 2008 06:09:20 PM
kigo:  all of you guys.....shut up.....for me no cotto, pavlick,jmm,or slappy calzaghe. or even brit hatton. no one exciting boxer in the planet today just only pac man agree folks... he is no.1 p4p boxing in the world today. i will respect mr avila
Friday Jul 4, 2008 10:43:07 PM
donputo69:  yo kiga...STFU...holla...
Saturday Jul 5, 2008 10:49:39 AM
Mayweather Da Chicken!!:  HEY MAYWEATHER FANS, CHECKOUT THIS QUOTE FROM YOUR BOY TODAY IN A ESPN INTERVIEW: "They talk about Kelly Pavlik, a white fighter, like he's the second coming. Or they go crazy over Manny Pacquiao. But I'm a black fighter," Mayweather said. "Is it racial? Absolutely. They praise white fighters, they praise Hispanic fighters, whatever. But black fighters, they never praise. "I've noticed it for a long time but I couldn't say anything because I had to do business with them. I'll still do business with them, but I'm done holding my tongue." WHAT A CRYBABY.DO YOU WANT A LOLLIPOP? PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
Saturday Jul 5, 2008 09:43:24 PM
juan M:  Think about what you just said Donputo. If Cotto had a weak chin at 140 against lesser opponents. Imagine what will happen when he feels Margaritos power at 147!!!
Saturday Jul 5, 2008 11:06:50 PM
#1 Pacfan:  I dont care who wins with Cotto against Margarito, all i know is that they're going to put on a freakin show. Fight of the Year candidate. PROMOTE PACQUAIO VS mayweather @ 140lbs.
Sunday Jul 6, 2008 04:59:44 AM
Anony:  YES, WE ALL ARE GOING TO MEET HERE JULY 27th after Cotto's - Margarito's fight (God willing). I'm a Cotto fan and I wish him the best SO IF HE WINS TO MARGARITO LOTS OF PEOPLE SHOULD APOLOGIZE like "Floyd is the Legend" who hates Cotto so much for representing the REAL REASON MAYWEATHER RETIRED. He just don't want to see Cotto win ignoring Cotto is a much better fighter that Scareweather. Thruth hurts!!!!
Sunday Jul 6, 2008 05:40:22 PM
donputo69:  think about what?..he's stronger at 147...do you know how to read?..i said his chin has been tested a few times at 147 and he's taking them like a man...140 and 147 is a big difference..do the math homie...holla back monkeys!!!!
Sunday Jul 6, 2008 08:34:09 PM
Juan M:  Okay homie.....You obviously don't have a clue....Let's do this again after July 26th.
Monday Jul 7, 2008 05:57:24 PM
rudy:  Juan M is right, it all comes to an end for Cotto come July 26th.
Tuesday Jul 8, 2008 02:26:38 PM
beanstalk:  In terms of boxing skills, Pacman had a strong showing in his last fight for the WBC Lightweight Crown. As to entertainment value, Pacman is definitely a pound-for-pound no. 1. Admit it or not, we all love a knockout! In this connection, I go for Cotto on July 26th.
Wednesday Jul 9, 2008 05:41:51 AM

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