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Top Ten Pound For Pound Mexicans
By Ralph Gonzalez
It’s been about a year since I put out my first Top Ten Mexicans list and I got some interesting responses. There were those who felt that the omission of Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera was downright sacrilegious. Many also questioned the placement of Mexican-American fighters like Oscar De La Hoya.
For those that can’t fathom not seeing the names Barrera or Morales, this isn’t a career appreciation list. Yes, both of these men are all time greats, but neither have had a significant win in years. As for De La Hoya’s placement, as far as I’m concerned, Mexican-American boxers qualify for this list. It’s a non-issue this time around anyway, so let’s start.
1. Israel “Magnifico” Vazquez (WBC Super Bantamweight Champion) 43-4, (31 KOs)
Although Juan Manuel Marquez and Cristian Mijares are more technically sound fighters, Vazquez’s punching power is as tremendous as his heart. It’s carried him through great performances against top level competition like Jhonny Gonzalez, Oscar Larios and his classic trilogy against Rafael Marquez.
Next for Vazquez: Either Rafael Marquez for a fourth time or Jorge Arce in a pay per view event.
2. Juan Manuel Marquez (Former Super Featherweight Champion) 48-4, (35 KOs)
Rafael’s older brother lost to Manny Pacquiao in a fight that could’ve easily gone either way. At this point, his 34 years of age are catching up with the Mexico City fighter trained by Nacho Berinstain. He would love another crack at Pacman but Pacquiao ain’t having it. Their last meeting was too close for comfort for the Filipino superstar and he has no desire to provide the Mexican with a rematch.
Next for Marquez: A move to the lightweight division where he’ll continue chasing Pacman. Next fight is slated to be against Joel Casamayor.
3. Rafael Marquez (Former WBC Super Bantamweight Champion) 37-5, (33 KOs)
Losing twice to Israel Vazquez by the smallest of margins shouldn’t mean much as far as this list is concerned. Marquez started out strong in their last two encounters but was eventually picked apart in the final rounds by “El Magnifico.” As of now, Marquez vs. Vazquez III still remains the fight of the year for 2008.
Next for Marquez: A fourth confrontation with Vazquez would seem to be the best option for Marquez.
4. Cristian Mijares (WBC Super Flyweight Champion) 35-3, (14 KOs)
You gotta love the way the Durango native fights. He’s fast, slick and super athletic. Is he a Mexican version of Willie Pep as TSS’s Ron Borges proclaimed after his impressive defeat of former WBA Superflyweight champion Alexander Munoz? He sure looks like it. His upper body movement and his footwork are extraordinary. The way he twists and bends and sets up his shots is masterful. Wins over Jorge Arce, Jose Navarro and Munoz proved that he’s the man at 115 pounds.
Next for Mijares: Everyone’s hoping for a showdown against WBO champion Fernando Montiel. As of now, nothing official has been set.
5. Antonio Margarito (IBF Welterweight Champion) 36-5, (26 KOs)
“The Tijuana Tornado” stormed back into winning mode after losing his title to Paul Willliams by decision. His victim was Kermit Cintron, who was beaten down unmercifully in a rematch for Cintron’s IBF title.
Next for Margarito: Miguel Cotto in what should be a true war reminiscent of Lupe Pintor vs. Wilfredo Gomez. An example of the Mexico Vs. Puerto Rico boxing rivalry at its very best takes place on July 26th in Las Vegas , Nevada.
6. Fernando “Cochulito” Montiel (WBO Superflyweight Champion) 37-2, (28 KOs)
After a disappointing performance against Jhonny Gonzalez, Montiel has been looking impressive lately. His resounding victories over the once formidable Martin “Gallito” Castillo and Luis “Titi” Maldonado have sent the Los Mochis, Sinaloa fighter’s stock soaring. Montiel is a boxer puncher with excellent footwork and speed. Reminds you of another Mexican superflyweight?
Next for Montiel: Cristian Mijares in a unification bout? We can only hope.
7. Hugo Cazares (Former WBO champion) 26-4, (19 KOs)
We really don’t get to see enough of this guy. The fact that he fights at the light flyweight division doesn’t do him any favors since there’s a disregard for the lower weight classes by many boxing fans. Cazares is a brilliant stalker in the ring. An efficient, aggressive, punching machine who doesn’t back up. A mini Margarito. His split decision loss to Ivan Calderon in the Puerto Rican’s backyard was very unsatisfying so they’re doing it again.
Next for Cazares: A rematch against Calderon on August 30th.
8. Juan Diaz (Former WBC/WBA Lightweight Champion) 33-1, (17 KOs)
The “Baby Bull” was battered by Nate Campbell in his last outing as the veteran used his experience and resilience to bully the Texan. But there’s still plenty left in the kid from Houston. Expect him to come back strong.
Next For Diaz: Michael Katsidis on September 6.
9. Edgar Sosa (WBC Light Flyweight champion) 32-5, (17 KOs)
Here’s another guy we won’t get to hear about due to his fighting weight. This great little boxer puncher made his name heard after beating Brian Viloria for the vacant WBC title by a thin margin. Hasn’t been defeated since 2003 and just defeated Takashi Kunishige by eighth round t.k.o.
Next For Sosa: To be determined
10. Humberto “La Zorrita” Soto 44-6, (28 KO’s)
Okay, so he lost to Joan Guzman. But the Dominican is probably the most underrated fighter on the planet. Guzman is now set to move up to the lightweight division along with Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez. This will give Soto the space he needs to fight it out with Edwin Valero and Yuriorkis Gamboa for superfeatherweight domination.
Next for Soto: An interim WBC title shot against Francisco Lorenzo on June 28th.
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Uruk-Hai:
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This writer is biased. But since you don't know then I will inform you. When Pacquiao was asked what he thought of JMM going to his country and telling him that he was the better man, Pac was insulted. He was insulted even more that JMM challenged him to a fight. Right then and there it entered into his mind that he should teach JMM a lesson and just fight with him at the parking lot since he wants a fight. But Pac said he's more gentlemanly and more gracious than what JMM can do. So next time Gonzales be more objective. Otherwise you will get exposed.
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 04:21:49 PM
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Gil:
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To me the best is Juan Manuel Marquez, who got ROBBED against the Pac "Overrated" Man. And he's gonna lose in a STUNNING UPSET against Diaz.
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 05:26:02 PM
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I THINK JUAN MANUEL DID BEAT MANNY IN THE SECOND LIKE JUAN SAYS A FIGHT SHOULDNT BE DECIDED BY ONE ROUND ONLY...ENOUGH ON THAT
AND MANNY IS DOING A SMART THING BY AVOIDING JMM AS MUCH AS HE CAN...FILIPINOS AND HIMSELF DONT WANT HIM TO END UP HAVING BRAIN DAMAGE AFTER THE BEATINGS JUAN HAS GIVEN HIM...YOUR DOING GOOD MANNY RUN RUN RUUUUN....
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 07:24:40 PM
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andy from newcastle:
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Great list, top four is a tough one, you did as well as I would, and nobody could argue with those in any order. Same with 5,6 and 7, though these guys are definitely out of the top 4 (for now). 8 downwards, I guess you have to fill the slots with somebody, though I'd be tempted to squeeze the aforementioned Jhonny Gonzalez in there somewhere. As Pacquiao is now the top p4p fighter in the world, a la Ring magazine, it would be interesting to see where JMM would be ranked had the decision gone the correct way in their second fight(and the first for that matter). Why is Arce determined to get destroyed? Mijares took him to school, he doesn't want the 'rematch' mandatory he 'won' (very dodgy decision), against Look Ma, No Hands, so to avoid it he moves up to fight arguably the toughest guy at superbantam? He's either off his trolley or they must be putting something in those lollipops of his. Toonoy
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 08:21:59 PM
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Radam G:
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Wow! It is what it is. Who's the Pound For Pound of all ethnics? That will be Manny "PacMan" Pacquiao. My list of the top hounds of Pound For Pound Fame: (1) Manny "Pera Pac" Pacquiao (2) "Slappy" Joe Calzaghe (3) Kelly "The Ghost" Pavlik (4) Miguel Cotto (5) Israel Vazquez (6) Andre Berto (7) Antonio Margarito (8) "Soft Chin" Wlad Klitschko (9) David "Haymaker" Haye (10) Ricky "Fatton" aka "Hitman" Hatton. Holla!
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 09:53:57 PM
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donputo69:
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hey orange....mark this down with your pen..JMM 4 TIMES TO THE CANVAS...PACMAN 0...jmm is a sore loser..take a loss and move on..pacman got better things to do now than to worry about CRYBABY jmm..holla back ladies..
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 09:54:27 PM
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Ferdie Tabasa:
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I think everybody is entitled to his opinion about the JMM-Pac II fight. It could have gone either way. However, if it was fought using the 10-point-must-scoring-system, JMM lose. It was not an amateur bout wherein number of punches counts. The decision of the judges will always be the basis for they were very near the ring and actually heared how hard the Pac's punches were when it landed. To them, the quality of the punches counts and these made the difference.
It was not a Casamayor-Sta. Cruz fight! Pacman won fair and square. However, I really admire Marquezes techical skills. But a counter-puncher will always need an agressor to win the fight. It was clear that the counter-puncher got counterpunched during that bout!
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 10:06:19 PM
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Sil:
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JMM is such a foolish and cry baby boxer, shamed on you why don't you accept defeat, you are putting Mexico in real shamed and disgraced of being a whining baby!, You can challenge pacquiao in a good way, arrogant old boxer!, I wonder if you can win against Casamayor, anyways its nice to watch two granddaddy boxing each other hehe..
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 10:15:15 PM
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orange county is a jerk:
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JMM is the one who seems to have been battered and have his brains shaken, first he cannot determined his corner, second he cannot find his manners and intrude and insult a king in his teritorry and beg for a fight. He really stoop his level down now all the boxing world knows how brain damaged JMM is. and the reason why he keep on chasing megamanny is because manny has tore down the pride of the suck ass JMM. Manny pocketed the JMM's pride for being the only person to mop him on the floor so many times! you can never get your wish JMM! you can never beat Mr. Packy even if you fight 10 times, more so floor him! Orange county is as jerk as JMM!
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 10:30:22 PM
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doods:
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i just want to tel you guys that the jmm is really no match to the pacman...
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 10:32:40 PM
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Radam G:
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Tell 'em readers. JMM's nutgrabbers musta fo'got. It's PacMan Time! JMM fought like a punk, lost that way, and now his is acting like a delusional idiot. Holla!
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 10:46:11 PM
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Ray Satorre:
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When someone is on top, all the others would bring it down. Hey you guys, you're just envied with Manny doing it again and again.
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 11:10:16 PM
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johan:
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Four knockdowns in two fights, JMM fans must be crazy enough to put JMM at the pedestal. Come on, get real. Reality is painful but it is a great humility to accept defeat, I mean defeats ( coz twice in a row to pacman). ha ha.
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 11:30:36 PM
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Puerto Rico:
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Pacman running away from Marquez??? that's dumb! he is actually chasing a bigger fish in the name of ricky hatton coz hattons gonna retire soon and he is just exposing JMM to be a cry baby!
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 11:48:37 PM
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tosik:
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I think jmm will have to fight valero or guzman to test his skill not to pacman for the third time ,it so boring to watch him again against pac
Wednesday Jun 18, 2008 11:52:50 PM
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Truth is the Truth:
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Obviously, Orange County is a classic JMM fan. following his fighter and complain like him too...but hay, you need to believe what you need to believe so you can sleep at night...right? Well, this list is pretty good. The two big names, morales and barerra arn't on here because someone, PacMan, help them decide to get out of the ring.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 12:16:42 AM
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joel, pinoy:
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Guy's let's stop arguing whos the best Pac or JMM. It's done... Manny conquered JMM in their last encounter. Let's see if Manny can win over Diaz and JMM can win over Casamayor then we'll find out whos the best of the two
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 01:26:46 AM
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Philippine covert:
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Im tired of hearing the whining about JMM Manny has put him on his back 4 times JMM has failed to put Manny down 1 time in 24 rounds and then he embarasses all mexican boxers by traveling around the world crying He couldnt get him down 1 time and the rest of the time he ran in the fight not stay in and throw punches Once he proves himself again Manny will fight him again Instead of crying JMM prove to everyone your worth a third fight ((Technically you lost 1st fight if the judge put the right score down so he would have had the belt then))
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 01:26:51 AM
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rain:
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juanita clearly lost to manny. he cannot win as he got knowcked down 4 times in 2 fights. he is a good boxer but he slaps like granny.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 01:35:52 AM
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mikeportnoy7:
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juan manuel "cry baby"marquez!!..he clearly lost to pacquiao,no more excuses..nuff said!!
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 01:42:23 AM
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Vic Aguirre:
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Comments are pretty decent and show respect to others opinion. This is true because you are perceived by your readers to be a good man in real life. People can sense it even only in write-ups. That aspect, Mr. Pedro Fernandez of ringtalk does'nt realize. And that is the reason why he's getting the most bad and vulgar bloggers all the time. (He himself insults (even pacman whom he does,nt know personally) anyway, so it's just fair that those (bad words & insults) are thrown back back at him really hard.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 03:07:17 AM
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Fealess Bong:
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To Gil & to Orange Country
You are all daydreaming that JMM wins a fight with Pacman...
Better Knock pacquiao first before claimin you win... coz JMM kiss tha canvas in their 2 meetings he just lucki the he has the back peddle to avoid KO loss.
but if I were to line up this P4P for Mexican Vasquez deserves..
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 04:12:35 AM
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zen:
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in response to a comment that manny pacquiao is running away from JMM: all i can say is that the two fighters already fought twice and was decided by slim margins on both occasion. Manny was the brawler, and the aggressor. JMM is two steps backward from manny and almost always throws punches after pacman throws his, so really manny is having difficulty with him. Pacman is a warrior across the ring trades punches and worthy to be called true warrior.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 04:17:49 AM
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RAF:
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YES, FORGET ABOUT CHASING PACMAN, GO ANOTHER PATH, MAYBE jmm CAN FIND A MATCH FOR HIM AND MIGHT ELEVATE HIM TO ANOTHER LEVEL, OF COURSE PACMAN WILL NOTCH TWO LEVELS HIGHER SO THERE NO CHANCE FOR HIM REALLY, BEATEN TWICE IS ENOUGH!!!
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 05:20:55 AM
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chriztianson:
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Pacman will win versus David Diaz... i'll predict that it will be Unanimous Decision... but hopefully it will be a 8 to 10 round KO.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 08:43:54 AM
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Sodamn Insane:
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If you got Mex=American Juan Diaz on your list . You for got to put the king of Mex-American Sir Oscar Dela Hoya he should be numero uno
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 10:40:18 AM
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Ralph A. Ligtas:
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TOP TEN FILIPINO BOXERS of today W KO L D
(ranking is based on KO% and World Titles held past and present)
1. Manny Pacquiao 46W 35KO 3L 2D
Current WBC SuperFeatherweight Champion
If he beats David Diaz will have 4 world titles in 4 weight divisions, i agree with most people, Unanimous Decision or Late KO round 8 to 10
2. Gerry Peñalosa 53W 36KO 6L 2D
Current WBO Bantamweight
3. Nonito Donaire 19W 12KO 1L 0D
Current IBF Flyweight Champion
4. Florante Condes 22W 20KO 4L 1D
Former IBF Minimum Weight Champion
5. Brian Viloria 22W 13KO 2L 0D
Former WBC Flyweight Champion
6. Randy Suico 28W 24KO 3L 0D
Current OPBF lightweight title
7. Bernabe Concepcion 25W 14KO 1L 1D
Current NABF Super bantamweight title
8. AJ Banal 17W 14KO 0L 1D
Current WBO Asia Pacific Youth super flyweight title
9.Rey Boom Boom Bautista 26W 18KO 1L 0D
WBO Inter-Continental super bantamweight title
10. Z Goress 28W 15KO 2L 2D
Former IBF Inter-Continental super flyweight title
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 11:06:33 AM
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pacpac:
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sorry!! JMM.. use your mind, just accept!!! your lose!! be a man!!! 4 knockdown in2 fights...awtz!!! try your skill to other boxer!! not to pacman!! it's enough!! it's clear you lose....
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 11:29:34 AM
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JMM kissed the canvass everytime he faces Manny...Manny never did...so who's gonna have brain damage here...
JMM is technically better though...
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 11:32:31 AM
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zapphyre:
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let's make it simple...who is the best pound for pound in the boxing anals today? so you better shush you JMM followers, after all this will be another mexican victim. Packy was right, he should focus now his gloves to a briton or more intelligent fighter.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 11:35:39 AM
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iho De Puta:
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uno mas pacquiao, marquez
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 12:27:31 PM
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RAMON:
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THE TRUTH MIGHT HURT, BUT PACQUIO IS A SMALL NOTCH ABOVE JMM, NOT MUCH, I'M NOT A PACQUIO FAN, BUT HE IS FAN FAVORITE,AND I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY STRONG OR SKILLED TO BEAT HIM AT 135 LBS, NOBODY, DIAZ, NATE, OR CASAMAYOR, HE NEED TO MOVE UP TO 140 AFTER HE WIPES THE LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION, AND GET CHALLENGE BY HATTON, BRADLEY, OR CASTILLO
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 01:40:50 PM
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sammy:
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Ha ve a good time out there David. You East L.A. boys got it rough.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 02:21:30 PM
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pomona:
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how can anybody expect to have de la hoya to be on the best mexica or mexican american top 10 list, when he fights steve forbes, who's best day's as boxer were 3 and 4 weight classes below de la hoya weight and know he is talking about pacquio, who fight at 28 lbs below him, oscar would never fight margarito, margo would cause problems to oscar, with the reach and flurry of punches, he would fight cotto, because oscar know's he is 4 to 5 inches taller and if oscar get in trouble with cottos onslaught, , oscar would dance his way to defeat or hit the canvas on a liver shot, and with margo oscar would not have plan b, margo would pummel him to submission, that why oscar does not belong on the top 10 list
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 03:25:51 PM
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Saul:
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No fourth fight between Vazquez and Marquez!!! These guys have taken enough punishment from each other, Rafael is turning just as whiny as JM is. Accept defeat and challenge the newly crowned WBO champ Juan Manuel Lopez, it could be the battle of the JuanMa's. No fourth fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 03:28:13 PM
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CLos:
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Good list Ralph, but I would move Antonio Margarito over Cristian Mijares.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 03:55:29 PM
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Arturo:
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I'm not sure if Manny's nuts are big enough for all of you to be hanging from.He is a great fighter but Juan ManuelMarquez is also a part of the reason why he is on top. Barrera and Moralez were past their prime when they fought Manny P. I think Marquez has given Manny great fights , maybe better than what any other fighter has to offer
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 05:09:08 PM
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Ziggy Boy:
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stop it!!!! pacquiao still has three more years to dominate the boxing ring!!!
up to the midleweight.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 07:18:45 PM
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Jeremy:
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PAcquiao was awarded an undeserved decision last time. That's the reality. Who doesn't admit it doesn't know anything about boxing.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 08:44:36 PM
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Smiley C:
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Jeremy, did you get knocked out by a fatty name Samuel Peter? That is okay. At least you beat the bums in the MMA/UFC. Fo' sure!
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 11:16:20 PM
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junior bugaloo:
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Great list! I think Vazquez is def #1. Margarito above Mijares though.
Thursday Jun 19, 2008 11:35:30 PM
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suckafree:
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listen all you haters out there pacman lost both fights with marquez. just look at manny's expression after the fight. ya he beat an old erick and an old barrera but they were past their prime gagas. it seems to me like the only ones that think different is all you philipinos. all sport commentators will say that marquez won. Blah Blah Blah who cares how many times he got knocked down.. is that all you guys can say. Marquez still after being knocked down still came back to win the rounds you fools!! oh and isnt it weird that a judge was taken out last minute and replaced by a Judge that is friends with freddie roach! hmmm! if you ask me i say they gave the fight to manny cause he's more marketable right now.. that's ok though it just goes to show that boxing judging is still corrupt these days. WOW!!!
Friday Jun 20, 2008 12:50:18 AM
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jagger:
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Margaritos got the chance to be number 1,with a win over Cotto.This must be the fight of the year.Does anybody see Hatton Pacman happening?If so whats Hattons chances against that big left?
Friday Jun 20, 2008 02:43:48 AM
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FLO:
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DIAZ DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST PACQUIAO, NOT A CHANCE, ANYBODY DISAGREE, I DON'T THINK SO
Friday Jun 20, 2008 04:07:00 PM
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Anony:
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Thank you for the list. Now we have a great list of sparring partners for Puertorican boxers. Bring them on!!!!!! hahahaha can't wait for your comments guys!!! Not from Radam G or Smiley C please - it's the same person writing.
Friday Jun 20, 2008 04:46:45 PM
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Coco:
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what about Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. or Fernando Arce????? perhaps even Ponce de Leon or Johnny Gonzalez???
Saturday Jun 21, 2008 04:27:08 PM
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delpilar:
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bye-bye diaz.
Sunday Jun 22, 2008 06:50:10 PM
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FLO:
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HOW ABOUT CRIS ARREOLA?
Monday Jun 23, 2008 01:17:02 PM
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No De La Hoya? Regardless of opinons on "The Golden Boy", he's is the richest fighter in history, has fought everyone, and when everyone thoght he wasn't a warrior he responded by fighting and changing his style since he fought Trinidad in 99. Even mexican fight fans have his back now.
Tuesday Jun 24, 2008 02:38:36 AM
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pomona:
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golden boy, might be the richest fighter, maybe one of the smartest, but he don't belong in the list of top ten mexican fighter , this list is for pure warrior, not for strategist, de la hoya has lost all his fight against top competition, i'm not making this up do some research, trinidad,mosely,hopkins, mayweather, who has he beaten, paez, old chavez, old whitaker, contender forbes, and the way de la hoya plans his fights, he is likely to fight contender sergio mora
Tuesday Jun 24, 2008 09:05:42 AM
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Fight night:
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So he doesn't belong because his last fight was against forbes? He's fought everyone! He's only been beaten really twice, against hopkins and the 1st mosley fight. Every fight could have went either way when he's lost. In his older age he had a split decision against boxings pound for pound! So if your a smart fighter and fight the best possible opponents and make the most money then I guess you don't qualify for being a warrior? Must be a JC Chavez fan from back in the day.
Tuesday Jun 24, 2008 05:02:43 PM
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pomona:
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hey fight night, the reason why oscar is not on most credible list of top ten pound for pound is not because of me, it's the general opinion, some of his fight could have gone either way, your absolutely right, he could have lost decisions against sturm, quartey, and old worned out whitacker, oscar lost to mayweather, a boxer much smaller than de la hoya, at de la hoya's weight, super welterweight, thats why the public doesn't give him credit, on pound for pound list, and now he say's pacquiao is calling him out, four weight classes lower, "huh", why doesn't oscar fight winky, taylor, pavlik, boxers of his same physical statue, can you imagine what would happen to oscar if he fought pavlik, but no, he says pacquiao is calling him out.
Wednesday Jun 25, 2008 09:28:19 AM
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riv:
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stop bashing jmm, he might be the second best pound for pound fighter in the world, he lost once by narrow decision and draw the othe fight againt pacman, look how bad diaz looked against pacman, it just tells you how good jmm is, and expect him to beat casamayor
Wednesday Jul 2, 2008 10:55:39 AM
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La Galaxy:
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What happen to baby bull diaz? He was bashing pacman for beating old timers, he himself cannot beat old timer Nate The Galaxxy Warrior Campbell
Wednesday Jul 2, 2008 04:01:08 PM
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riv:
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pacman would beat the crap out of bull diaz, diaz would fight him straight forward, perfect for pacman, pacman needs to move up to 140 to get challenge by stronger foes
Thursday Jul 3, 2008 10:14:25 AM
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salazar:
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to all you mexican out there and your one and only no match fighter JUAN MANUEL "Cry BaBY" MARQUEZ before say anything else tell to JMM How many times pacman knockdown HIM! but ur cry baby boxer did not knock down pacman. sorry but jmm is such a loser! because his not deserving being world champion because his cry baby attitude don worry JMM someday there will be pacman vs. crybaby 3. after the fight you will announced your retirement like your fellow mexican boxer morales. and barrera after the devastating fight there only be one pacman that kill all the career of mexican boxer like oscar dela hoya and david diaz!
Monday Dec 15, 2008 02:28:19 AM
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Not Hip To The Hype
"Haye has said that without the hype, boxing is boring. This tells you something about him as a fighter and as a man. And maybe something about his low expectations of his own value as a fighter. Why isn't his skill good enough? Which audience is he trying to impress? When I watch fights, I watch the contest, the skill, the drama, the match-up. Screw the circus hype."---TSS reader Mortcola, giving thumbs down on David Haye and his pre-fight antics
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