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Oscar Dominates In Dress Rehearsal For Floyd
By Ron Borges
CARSON, CA. – Steve Forbes’ nickname is 2 pounds because that’s what he weighed at birth. Saturday night it was emblematic of the two pounds of welts left on his face after a night spent eating Oscar De La Hoya’s stinging left jab.
De La Hoya easily outgunned and outpointed the former junior lightweight champion, winning a lopsided 12-round decision at the sold out Home Depot Center in a fight the six-time world champion used as a training exercise for his scheduled Sept. 20 rematch with Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
One judge, Marcos Rosales, scored it a shutout, awarding all 12 rounds to De La Hoya, which seemed a bit generous although Max DeLuca and Marty Sammon saw it pretty much the same way, scoring it 119-109 for De La Hoya. The Sweet Science was only slightly more generous to Forbes, scoring the bout 118-110 for De La Hoya, who established early that his jab would spend much of the night embedded in the face of Forbes, who was never quite able to time it or find a way to slip it because of the speed and accuracy with which it was thrown.
Although the frequency with which De La Hoya used it slowed in the second half of the bout, it was not as noticeable as the way he – and more importantly it – faded against Mayweather a year ago. According to CompuBox statistics, De La Hoya hammered home 127 of the 407 jabs he threw, connecting 31 per cent of the time with a punch that is essential against an opponent as quick as Mayweather.
“He has a lot of power,’’ Forbes (33-6, 9 KO) conceded. “He hurt me twice. He’s a smart fighter. It was an honor to fight Oscar. It was great to be in there and not go down. I hope I proved I’m a top-level fighter.’’
Forbes certainly proved he’s got a top-level chin. He has never been knocked off his feet and De La Hoya, despite his dominance, could not find a way to change that. Much of the night he was drilling Forbes with a power jab and some hard body shots and left hooks to the head behind it but never did he manage to get Forbes into any kind of serious trouble.
What he did accomplish though was to win easily a full dress rehersal for what he expects to be a showdown with Mayweather in five months even though the fight is not yet signed.
“This is how I plan to fight Mayweather,’’ De La Hoya (39-5, 30 KO) said. “Straight up. On the balls of my feet. Using my jab. This is the way I wanted this fight to go. This is the same style I’m going to use to beat Mayweather because I know I can.
“This is how I envisioned the fight would go. I’m a little disappointed I didn’t stop him or knock him out but I knew this was the way it might go. He’s tough. No one has ever stopped him. He’s not the two pounds Forbes. He’s the 800 pound Forbes.’’
The first three rounds were controlled primarily by De La Hoya’s stinging jab and right hands to the body behind it. Forbes had his moments, especially when he landed a solid left uppercut just before the end of the second round but for the most part De La Hoya controlled the action much to the delight of the crowd of 27,000.
Forbes did score often enough inside to cause some slight puffiness underneath De La Hoya’s left eye and in close he was somewhat effective at times but De La Hoya seldom let him get there without paying a price, although he paid a larger one when he stayed on the outside and allowed him to slam that jab and short left hooks behind it into his face.
Forbes came on a bit in Round 4, scoring more and even showboating at one point when he went into a duck walk as he came forward. While the crowd laughed. De La Hoya, who now had some puffiness around both eyes, did not. Instead, he jabbed him a few more times in the bridge of the nose, thus ending the duck walking for the evening.
By the fight’s midpoint, De La Hoya’s attack had begun to slow down, as it often has in the past but this time he seemed to sense it and opened up more in the sixth round, landing one flurry that hurt Forbes for the first time and another that sliced open a small cut along the side of the former junior lightweight champion’s left eye.
Blood began to trickle down the side of Forbes’ cheek and just as the round ended he was nailed again with a quick flurry that had the crowd roaring and Forbes for the first time looking concerned at the pace of the attack he was under.
De La Hoya continued to carry the action, though at a reduced rate, in round 7. This was partially made possible by the fact Forbes all but took the round off, seldom throwing and spending most of his time trying to avoid De La Hoya’s flurries on the two or three occasions he pinned Forbes along the ropes.
Although De La Hoya was winning handily his jab was no longer the multi-headed weapon it had been early in the fight, the same dissipation of his biggest asset that hurt him so badly against Mayweather a year ago. De La Hoya spoke during the week of how he had finally grown more relaxed in the ring and hence felt he would avoid the stamina problems that had arisen in some of his biggest fights but either by choice or by involuntary response he began to do the same things in round eight that began his downfall in his split decision loss to Mayweather.
De La Hoya went back to a power jab in Round 9 though at the urging of his trainer, Mayweather’s father and namesake, floyd Mayweather, Sr. Twice he stung Forbes with it solidly enough that he flinched and quickly looked to retreat. De La Hoya’s strength and the respect Forbes clearly had for his punching power kept him constantly moving away but he still began to take a battering late in the 10th round.
Yet just when things looked worrisome, Forbes showed why he has never been knocked off his feet as a professional. Though in some trouble from a string of hard left hands to the head and body, Forbes suddenly fired back a quick, hard flurry of his own just as De La Hoya tried to take a breath before launching another assault. Although they didn’t hurt De La Hoya, they did slow his attack enough to give Forbes time to regroup.
“I thought Oscar would have more power than he had,’’ Mayweather, Sr. said. “Now we know we have to work on that more but I thought it went well. He didn’t do as much as I wanted but he did a good job.
“This basically was preparing for my son. Floyd is a better fighter than Stevie but he doesn’t throw as many punches as Steve so if Oscar feints well, uses his jab a lot and counter punches he’ll have a great fight.’’
The final two rounds were a repeat of what preceded them with De La Hoya controlling the action and most of Forbes’ moves by making it neigh impossible for him to get into any kind of proper punching range. When he tried, Forbes kept getting drilled by a jab that was too fast and too powerful for him to risk answering it with anything more than a backwards step. Whether that will be the case when De La Hoya tries to use it against Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is a story for another day but as rehersals go it was one that had boxing’s Golden Boy feeling quite rich.
“Now I feel sharper,’’ De La Hoya said. “I accomplished the first of my goals (for 2008). Now I’m ready for two more.’’
What Steve Forbes was ready for by then was an ice pack.
On the undercard hot welterweight prospect Victor Ortiz (21-1-1, 15 KO) stopped Dairo Esalas (31-13, 25 ) at 2:35 of the fifth round after dropping Esalas three times and going down once himself. Danny Garcia (6-0, 5 KO) continued undefeated but for the first time was pushed to the distance, winning a six-round decision from Julio Gamboa (26-13-2, 16 KO). Former “Contender’’ challenger Freddy Curiel (18-7-2, 8 KO) lost a split decision to Italy’s Sven Paris (24-3, 16 KO). Paris dropped Curiel in the second round but couldn’t finish him and went on to win the eight-round decision.
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andy from newcastle:
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Hey I thought Steve Forbes did a great job, much better than most people expected, but I'd love to know which two rounds TSS gave to him and why. I saw it as a shut out for Oscar, but as I said in response to Mr.Woods earlier article, no cake walk. Stevie would provide many of the top lightweights and even junior welters with some tough opposition, he's a rock.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Rich:
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Bro look up def of cakewalk. If you gave him no rounds it was a cakewalk it was EASY fight. Sure Oscar ate a few but never a moments of danger for him. Easy night, what most-many expected bro.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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andy from newcastle:
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Come on donputo, Smiley C, Radam G, etc, you are leaving Rich and me to do all the work here. I know it is late, but it's Sunday tomorrow. Check back to Mr.Woods article Rich, I replied to you there as well. Cotto Gomez was a cakewalk, I still reckon Forbes put on a good show, and if you read some of the other jokers comments before the fight, many of them had Forbes upsetting DLH plans- but they are often clueless. I don't really think we're on different pages here, just pronouncing the words in a different accent.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Radam G:
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Dominates is when a person is not in the fight. Forbes was in the bout all the way. He popped and banged the Golden Boy more than Mayorga or Hopkins did. He even messed up the Golden Boy's face more than Oscar's other opponents. What other times in recent history has anyone seen Oscar's face lumped and scarred up? Forbes exposed that Oscar will be easy for Money May to cut up and lump up come September. Matter of fact, Money May knocks out Golden Boy in September. Holla!
Sunday May 4, 2008
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zumwalt:
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Garbage. Pure garbage. What a sham!
Sunday May 4, 2008
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BabyDee:
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Forbes did a pretty good job. Oscar was in total control all night long! Now to the rematch no true boxing fan cares about. Victor Ortiz kicked ass!
Sunday May 4, 2008
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mr payback:
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forbes is a good fighter he is a genuine top 8 140 lb fighter, i would'nt mind eventually seeing forbes try to get a fight against ricky hatton or paul malinaggi, Oscar has improved, he is still past his prime but just like joel casamayor last month, he has gotten in better shape and worked harder at better technique and performance most notedly his stamina is increasing. If he fights aggressive is not afraid to get hit and continues to build as much stamina up as he can he may beat floyd this time. I would rather see ODLH - cotto , but business is business,mayweather is the bigger fight. the other advantage i give oscar in a rematch with floyd is that oscar learned more about floyd that floyd learned about oscar. Oscar was outfought in the first shane mosely fight , but made alot of improvements in the second one, i felt he clearly outboxed mosely the second time with an improved strategy even though he did'nt get the descision. So there you have it, oscar is not shot yet.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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donputo69:
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lmao..cotto would of finish off forbes in 3 rounds...lol..nuff said...
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Eastar:
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Forbs was better than Gomez!!! Oscar looked good enough to beat Cotto!!! Halla. Up next, Money vs Golden Boy 2. Winner gets to beat up Miguelito!!!Haha.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Condor:
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So that performance justifies De La Hoya - Mayweather 2? Give m a break. In Oscar's interview with Merchant, he readily and enthusiastically acknowledges that his goal is to become a billionaire. I think that's great. But at whose expense? Is that why the pubic is being sold this bogus -and completely meaningless- rematch with Mayweather? They did it once already. It was a boring fight that lacked drama and intrigue. Now we're going to get the father-son angle, which is merely a ploy that's being exploited to bolster PPV sales. But, they have to use that, because the 12 rounds they've had together were dull, so they need to divert focus from the fight to some ancillary soap opera. Oscar - Vernon Forrest for a belt at 154? I'm interested in that. Oscar - Miguel Cotto for supremacy at 147? Sure, why not. (Yes, supremacy at 147; Cotto is the man at welterweight now based on performance, not talk, not WWE, Dancing, etc). But De La Hoya - Mayweather 2 at a catchweight of 150 or 152 or 154 (I don't even know what they decided, but here's a novel idea, they're welterweights, how about 147!), no titles at stake, just a meaningless sparring session? I will NOT be buying, that much I know.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Adrian:
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This was pretty much expected. I'm still surprised at the number of totally off the mark predictions I saw. Oscar gets dominated, Oscar gets stopped, Oscar gets a razor thin spilt decision, Oscar whispers in Forbes ears when the going gets tough, Oscar loses but the judges bail him out, Forbes could turn out be Jack Dempsey and Buster Douglas...rubbish.
Want to make predictions?, at least lets not go overboard with the fantastic and totally improbably scenarios.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Nuckle:
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I knew DLH would dominate, I just predicted Forbes would because I was really hoping he would in order to avoid DLH PBF 2. It looks like it's on anyway. Forbes did look good tho, it just wasnt enough for DLH. If he fought around lighweight he could be a problem
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Yuvie:
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Oh jeez, after this & wrestlemania, I really can't wait until september. Who needs any other boxing when these two big egos hug and kiss eachother again in september. And the idiots will eat it right up.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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rbk:
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Yawn. Now bring on the Oscar/Floyd moneymaking farce...
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Radam G:
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I predict that Oscar is going to shock the world. This bout with Forbes -- a so-called Mayweather lite -- convinced Oscar that Money May would put his butt in stormy weather and embarrass him. Then Joy -- Mayweather Sr -- would run across the ring and start a fight with Uncle Roger, remindful of Pops Judah starting stuff during his son's (Zab) butt kicking. Then Pops Dela Hoya would rush into the ring and start stuff with Oscar for promoting the whole fiasco. None of that will ever happen, though, because Oscar is going to shock the world and coward out of the match in September. The Money May business is finished. De la Hoya is gunning for Margarito, who is not (really going to) do business with Cotto. Money May is! Holla!
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Cornjob:
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Oscar-Floyd is has no relevance it the welter title picture but I'll watch anyways becasue I think De la Hoya will be more aggressive this time out, and when you force Floyd he can summon a KO punch.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Nuckle:
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Radam G are you serious?. It sounds good, but I hope youre right. Than the winners can fight each other in December
Sunday May 4, 2008
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Jersey0125:
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In the postfight interview, ODLH metioned that the deal with Floyd wasn't completed yet. Here's hoping that the negotiations hit a snag and that they both move in different directions. Maybe Oscar can fight Trinidad and go off into the sunset while Floyd waits for the winner of Cotto-Margarito (my pick is Cotto late). I won't hold my breath, but we can hope.
Sunday May 4, 2008
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G.O.A.T:
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If Oscar was the old Oscar of the late 90's then May would've taking his whippin in the 1st fight. This is a fighters sport , while Floyd is a rappers clingon and wannabe wrestler. So who cares about midget may anyway?
Sunday May 4, 2008
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jagger:
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Credit to Forbes,but if Oscar cant put him away watch chance has he against PBF.Its a waste of time,they both have vasts amounts of money,i for one wont pay for it. I say Oscar call it a day youve been a fantastic legend of the sport,and PBF please fight the winner of Cotto Margaritto.
Monday May 5, 2008
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Aficionado of Boxing:
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Just a repost but....
Stevie Forbes looked over-matched from the beginning. Question is why couldn't Oscar KO him ? And how could Forbes land so many punches ? This fight only reinforces my desire to MAYcott the DLH-PBF rematch. Oscar "looks great" stated by Emanuel is an hyperbole! He looked "great" against a much smaller and slower opponent in Forbes. Oscar right eye was almost swollen shut if not for the compression between rounds!
Are you kidding Easter, " Hoya looked good enough to beat Cotto" ?? One thing Cotto has that I have never seen him abandon is the consistent jab in All of his fights!! If little Strevie made Oscar look like that after a fight, can you imagine what Cotto, who has power in both hands, would do to him?! Anyway I digress.
Oscar has no chance against PBF the 2nd time around. And I'm not even a PBF Fan. But again, shame on us if we buy the PPV rematch of the Rusting Golden Boy and the "Boy in the Bubble" Floyd!
Monday May 5, 2008
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Madison:
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Radam G is trippin. No way does mayweather kO de la hoya in september. you might be right about them possibly not even fighting, although thats always a possiblity in any fight when contracts aren't signed. By the way, I think Margarito gives cotto more than he bargained for.
Monday May 5, 2008
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drvotts:
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Margarito is going to maul Cotto!!! I can see the fear in Cotto's eyes in the post fight interview with Larry Merchant!!! He wouldn't call out Mayweather because he knows the air is real thin at the top of the mountain. He would eat a a lot of lightning quick hard shots. Cotto , Oscar or anyone else who presses May and makes him dig deep will not like what comes from it. If you make him fight it's gonna go to a whole different level ala Diego(rip) Hatton,Corley, and the list goes on. The only one I think would poes a problem for May is Margarito!!! Too big ,Too strong ,Too much pressure and throws too many punches.And he has a granite chin . I don't think floyd could stop him from coming. De la Hoy look good against Forbes but I think he needs one more tune up before Mayweather. holla
Monday May 5, 2008
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Rashad:
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You are ignorant. Why is the rematch being talked down to so much? Just because you were dumb enough to believe it actually was the fight to save boxing and expected Gatti-Ward 4 does not mean it was a bad fight. It only looked bad because it wasn't what you expected and your disappointment is running your opinion. Watch the fight against not expecting an epic instant classic that's fight of the year and look at it like a usual technical Floyd fight. It was a solid fight. CONDOR, you said it looked drama? what the heck? The crowd is what kept me into it chanting Oscar. It's what got me excited. The rematch will be an even better fight and it will go down as a great fight but with a more decisive result for Floyd. Some of you need to grow up. Boxing is never boring unless it's John Ruiz hugging. Why are you even posting on this site that's called "The Sweet Science"? It's called The Sweet Science because Sugar Ray Robinson-Leonard, Ali, and Floyd's ring work is beautiful. It's the sweet science for a reason, it's not called caveman slugging were fighters throw haymakers bashing each others head in so you get a fight of the year candidate. but shorten their careers.
Monday May 5, 2008
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Nuckle:
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Yo Rashad that was real talk!!! But to add something, boxing is never boring unless it's Klitchsko slapping Ibragimov's hand down.
Monday May 5, 2008
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Nuckle:
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Oh yea, I am against the rematch tho
Monday May 5, 2008
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Rashad:
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In my post above, I thought I typed "Some of" in front of that post but I guess I forgot. it wasn't directly aimed at anybody. But yeah Knuckle, slapping is never entertaining and neither is Ruiz hugging!
Monday May 5, 2008
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Coco:
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I don't know what you guys think but Manny Steward was doing too much praising for DLH when he didn't look all that sharp. Sure, I give DLH credit for trying to look like his old self, but that train already passed 10 years ago. If DLH got all bruised up over a couple of slaps by Forbes, then he would get knockout by Floyd for sure. DLH vs. Floyd reminds me of the days when Chavez was trying to be his old self at an age when many were begging him to retired. Anyways, DLH will look good for 4 rounds versus Floyd but afterwards, it will be Floyd taking over with his single punches, dances, and running. I recommend DLH to fight TIto instead.
Tuesday May 6, 2008
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Smiley C:
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I agree with you, Coco. DLH should after Tito. They can fight for the catchweight championship. Fo' sure!
Tuesday May 6, 2008
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Witter A Slapper, A Flapper (A Career In The Crapper?)
"Another upset! I keep making the right bet. I never thought for a moment that Witter was a good boxer or a hitter. He is just another slapper and a big-mouth flapper. In the hurt business, no word can hit you like a fist. He got knocked on his butt, and his words didn't cushion his fall. Hopefully, he will now shut up. More of today's boxers should learn the art of hurting, and cut out all this garbage of hyping. All the sightings of "Big Foot" and "UFOs" have been delusions, but these sightings of upsets in 2008 boxing are hard realities." ---TSS reader Radam is lovin' the upsets
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